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The story of Rome begins with myth and legend, gradually emerging into historical fact through archaeological evidence and ancient writings. According to Roman tradition, Romulus and Remus, twin sons of Mars raised by a she-wolf, founded the city in 753 BC on the Palatine Hill. Though this tale is largely mythological, archaeological findings confirm human settlement in the area during this period.
The early Roman settlement grew from a cluster of Latin villages into a thriving town, benefiting from its strategic location along the Tiber River. The first Romans were likely a mixture of Latins, Sabines, and Etruscans, with the Etruscan influence particularly strong during the early monarchy. The earliest Roman kings, including the semi-legendary Numa Pompilius and Servius Tullius, established many of Rome's fundamental religious and political institutions.
Around 509 BC , the Romans overthrew their last king, Tarquinius Superbus, establishing the Roman Republic. This new political system featured two annually elected consuls and a senate composed of aristocratic families known as patricians. The early republic faced significant internal tensions between the patricians and the common people, or plebeians, who gradually gained political rights through centuries of social struggle.
The young republic proved remarkably resilient and adaptable. Through a combination of military prowess, diplomatic skill, and practical governance, Rome gradually extended its influence throughout central Italy. The Romans developed innovative military techniques, including the manipular legion system, and pioneered new approaches to citizenship and alliance-building that would serve as foundations for their future empire.
By the mid-fourth century BC , Rome had emerged as the dominant power in central Italy. The city's success stemmed not only from its military might but also from its ability to integrate conquered peoples through various levels of citizenship and alliance. This distinctive approach to empire-building, combining force with flexibility, would eventually help transform Rome from a small Italian city-state into the capital of the ancient world's greatest empire.
The Romans also demonstrated remarkable engineering and architectural skills during these early centuries. They constructed impressive public works, including the Cloaca Maxima sewer system and the first major roads like the Via Appia. These infrastructure projects reflected both practical necessity and growing ambition, laying the groundwork for the massive building programs that would later characterize the imperial period.
Rome's early development established patterns that would define its later history: pragmatic adaptation, military innovation, political evolution, and cultural synthesis. From these humble beginnings emerged an empire that would profoundly shape Western civilization, leaving enduring legacies in law, language, architecture, and governance that continue to influence our world today.
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I thought I read somewhere that a Roman shipwreck was found near the coast of South America and some coins were found as well. It's been some time since I read that so I'm a bit foggy on the details
Mr metatron pineaple in not welcome in italy today like on pizza hmm
@@Shadefinder1 they found amphoras in Brazil. But later one claim he put it there to age them so to increase their price.
Can you proof that the Romans didn't go the Moon? I'm sure they also went to Pluto.
(I'm joking of course.)
Edit: Uninhabited Canary Islands? Is that the same "uninhabited" as in how some people play Europa Universales IV?
"No, there were no natives here. Honestly."
Just out of interest what do you think the Romans would have called a pineapple if they encountered one? Same for maize.
That thing about the student's "joke" reminds me of the beginning of Good Omens when they talk about fossils.
@metatronyt Portuguese from Portugal the islands are called Açores, but because the English language lacks the " ç " they use the " Z " in it's place but if you pronounce them in portuguese they sound different from each other, fyi I'm from a little city full of roman ruins and iconography that even at one point was named Aquae Flaviae (now renamed to " Chaves " or " Keys " in English) and despite being my ancestors " enemies " I love the Roman empire.
But Romans had to have reached at least as far as Nevada, because that's where Caesar's Palace is.
The Luxor is there too. Maybe that’s how Cleopatra and Mark Antony got together.
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dad level joke. nicely done
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Yeah. Why do historians fail to acknowledge this!
My grandma said she didn't care what they told us in school, but those aren't pineapples, they're hand grenades.
😂😂😂
Black hand grenades.
I agree with your Gma. Quite frankly, its obvious, and preposterous to think otherwise.
@letsdothis9063 specifically a Mk2a1 from a very unspecified area of origin. 😂😂
Don't tell the ancient aliens guy.
Fun fact: that fruit in the Pompeii mosaic does represent a pineapple, they were the first to put it on their pizzas and that's why the gods punished them by making Mt. Vesuvius go boom boom. You can quote me on this.
"on the pizza". The rest is factually correct.
@kaltaron1284 you're right. It's ON, not IN.
@kaltaron1284” their” is correct.
Eating my Hawaiian pizza as I read the comments.😅
Absolutely true.
@@cplmpcocptcl6306 # 🍍 🍍 🍍
5:40 Proof the ancient Roman’s had hand grenades!
Lol
the holy hand granade!
Loved the reference
I thought that was a Syrian thing since they came from Antioch...
nice.. and also.. yes they did. so did the greeks, carthage, egypt etc, primitive by modern standards ofc. Clay pots filled with nasty stuff that burned/exploded a bit/chucked out nasty fumes.. yeh they had those. Mankinds desire to inflict suffering on their fellow man should never be underestimated, any society that has basic medicine, basic pottery, and basic chemistry has 'grenades' of some sort - and Rome was some measure ahead of 'basic' in all of these.
To think he believed he could slip one past our very own Sherlock Rome
Indubitably, dear Watson.
HA!
5:20 clearly, with the Roman's love of cheese and bread, they were able to use their North American contacts to obtain pineapple to make the first Hawaiian pizza, angering every civilization in the world and leading to the downfall of the empire
Pineapple, yes; but also Cannae-dian bacon.
I attribute the fall of the Roman empire to socks and sandals. Not cool now and not cool then LOL 😀
I love Hawaiian pizza❤...I also put artichoke and asparagus on pizza along with black olives....ok...now I'm hungry😮
@@annpolese3160Try that combo of veggies with a cream sauce and wafer thin pieces of beef tenderloin lightly seared in olive oil.🤌👍
Trump claims the US and Italy have been allies since Ancient Rome. What a moron.
The Romans travelling all the way to the Americas and acquiring things like sunflower, sweet corn and pineapple is hard to believe.
What is even harder to believe is that once acquired, they apparently never considered cultivating them at home. I don't know about pineapple, but sunflowers and sweet corn are fairly easy to grow and they would have likely been grown from Roman times to this day.
That's ultimately what kills it for me. I can accept the idea of islands changing and things not being recorded or lost...but the idea that some trader, grower or noble just never had the idea to grow stuff where it's cheaper and make a profit or just make life easier is a good step too far for me. Profit, need and laziness should never be underestimated as sources of growth and innovation. They would have grown sunflowers alone in a heartbeat.
If the romans had reached the Americas the italians wouldn't haver been suffering through a life without tomato sauce for so long. That's all the proof I need.
Say what you will about Italians, but where there's a will, there's a way to get pasta sauce.
Woulda had polenta earlier too.
When I learned this… that Italians didn’t have tomatoes it changed my world view. The Americas had great food!
I get so excited thinking about ancient Roman's not having tomatoes or tomato sauce 🤘
To be fair, even if theo had, the tomatoes of the time would have been small, barely edible, berries.
You would think if romans ever went to americas and brought back a pineapple. They would have documented about the land it if it was so much availble to trade from Americas and have it in art.
Absolutely
And it seems unlikely that someone like Ptolemy would have ignored it when writing his Geography.
No,it would have been a state secret.
Rome was not a democracy.
Pineapples not yet in Mexico until after 1000 AD I believe.
5:37 "Romans had fish" is such a preposterous claim that I don't know what to think.
It would be so funny if ancient Romans got to the Americas and brought pineapples back to their home and used them to make pineapple pizza. Metatron would be so mad.
Amerindians had fish. An obvious connection. Q.E.D.
The funny thing about sweet corn is the fact that 2000 years ago, it looked nothing like it does today. It's been incredibly heavily bred over the centuries to look like it does today. The cobs and kernels were much smaller. So, "very long" and "crest like a horse" might seem appropriate to modern sweet corn, but almost certainly wouldn't not have accurately described the sweet corn from the time of the Roman Empire.
I was kind of thinking the same thing.
They used to call it "grass"
I think the same goes for pineapple. Or any other fruit/vegetable we have today; all altered and crossbred.
Sweet Maize was also mutated not just by selective breeding but by using Atomic Gardens to introduce mutations.
The Super Sweet varieties of 'corn' came out of experiments using exposure to cesium or cobalt.
The gardens are pretty cool. They put a radioactive element in the center and farm rings of various fruits and vegetables to see what mutations they can introduce.
Just as added note, this news has been making the rounds lately since we are talking flora: "The “miracle” plant Silphium consumed by Ancient Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians, which was thought to have become extinct two thousand years ago, has recently been rediscovered in Turkey by a professor, who thinks he's found a botanical survivor".- 4 days ago
I heard about this about a month ago (the Silphium). A guest on the Danny Jones podcast was talking about it, of all places.
Maybe that was before confirmation? Cool stuff tho.
Oh, I want to know more!
A Byzantine coin was found in a shell midden in Maine. But the date makes it likely that it came from the Viking settlement(s?) on Newfoundland, and just got traded south until someone dropped it while having a seafood feast.
That's still fascinating, one coin making it all the way from Constantinople to North America, from one end of the Viking world to the other.
There is no such thing as Byzantine. It was Rome. Byzantine was a term created in the HRE over 100 years later to bolster their claim as the true heir of Rome.
@@houseaccount3293Eastern Roman Empire is Byzantine. If “it doesn’t exist” then the word wouldn’t exist and they wouldn’t have made a distinction between themselves.
It was a Norse coin from the time of King Olaf III of Norway. Not a coin from Byzantine. It is extremely weathered but shows a bird figure which is what historians used to come to their conclusion.
@@black_hand78 There is no distinction between the Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire. The Eastern Roman Empire was the part of the Roman Empire that survived the downfall of the western half.
The Holy Roman Empire, while a formidable state with elective monarchy was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.
The term Byzantine should be discontinued since many people are too st$pid to understand the reality.
The Canary Islands are not named after the song birds but the dogs found there, the Presa Canario, which is still known. Canis is the Latin for dog. An inscription from Pompei is “Cave Canem” or “beware of dog”, which we still use.
A merchant ship that was hit by a storm and driven off its course could have accidentally strayed to the Americas. Items that they carried could have been traded to the natives, but the vessel could have been such bad shape that a return voyage, even if they could figure it out would have been impossible or fatal. No return, no knowledge except some stray items .
The boy was holding dates that are strung together.
Stone Pines are common in the Roman world. Pignoli (pine nuts) come from the Swiss Stone Pines (Pinus cembra).
The birds are named after the islands and the islands are not named after dogs, you should spend more time at the library.
@ The Canary Islands are named after dogs, and the name likely comes from the Latin phrase Canariae Insulae, which means "Islands of the Dogs
You're the best in the game, Sir Metatron
Metatron and TIK dispelling history lies is a win for the truth against political propaganda!
Thanks man
Oh! pine cone, that's why it's called Pineapple. Mind blow of the day. Maybe it's obvious, but I'm not a native speaker.
Anana in a lot of other languages lol
plot twist: the statue with the bag has a pineapple inside 🤡
Again, great video. Next, we must solve the great mystery where Pythias of Massalia sailed after Britain.
The bag that’s supposed to be a pineapple looks a lot like certain styles of knitted fabric or it could be a bag of grapes or some other fruit or nuts with a fairly uniform size.
I absolutely love the fact that every time I watch a video (every day), Metatron's subscriber count is at least 1k higher. Fantastic! 1M within reach. Keep it up, brother! Keep spreading the word of TRUTH!
That last one about the statue in the dig, reminds me of something that happened here in Norway in 1968. A famous comedian and politician of ours, Per Inge Torkelsen, who was 15 years old at the time, threw some Chinese coins from the 700s into a dig site in Stavanger, causing headlines as "evidence" had been found for trade between vikings and China. This remained his most famous prank through his entire career as a comedian. He sadly died in 2021, God rest his soul. He was a national treasure.
that kid is holding a bag of marbles
Love watching daily lol metatrons one of the best on the platform
Very much appreciated thanks
As a child, it was a common chore for me to have to pick pine nuts out of big Italian pine cones. I'm with you on the pine cone.
Thank you for the map at the beginning. Not joking, I thought the Canary Islands were in the Caribbean XD
I'm a new subscriber because I love how you explain everything. I love that you give different explanations. And I love that you backup your statements with facts or you say that they are just speculation . Looking forward to watching every single one of your videos thank you
Very much appreciated thanks
6:14 no one can carry a pineapple like that anyway. Anyone who thinks you can has never seen a real one.
I love the jokes about us making our first steps on Mars after all this time, thinking about how great we are for such an accomplishment: and then we stumble upon the remains of a legionary standard somewhere in the Mars deserts.
Hey Metatron,
found an interesting comment under Shad's video about crossguards vs. Tsuba and would love to hear what you (or other commentators) think about it:
"A big thing about Samurai is that they're a logistical nightmare, only effective with a Katana, and it takes a long time produce a Katana compared to European swords, the Katana also isn't tempered making it vulnerable to bending as recorded in ancient Rome; the swords of Gauls bent backwards upon striking Roman shields / armour, noted by the Romans of having weak to no tempering
Also Samurai amour is a huge set back due to its design making it a major weakness to nets and that it has no breathability leading to heat exhaustion and making a Samurai highly vulnerable to the ancient Roman gladiators called "Retiarius" to note Samurai armour is twice as heavy as Roman armour
Cardio has been a huge factor in training for troops all the way back to ancient Rome and Greece, however for Samurai Cardio has never been apart of their training, any European force would be able to out manuvour a Samurai due to this and a huge component of warfare is taking and using the enemies equipment and weaponry; a Samurai likely would refuse to use a foreign weapon
Essentialy a simple Retiarius will have legs twice as strong and wear very little would be able to dance around Samurai, entangle them in a net, at which point it is all over, the only effective opponent to a Retiarius was a Secutor who had smooth armour that wouldn't entangle in a net
However, if a Samurai were to not wear armour, then they would be vulnerable to ranged units, and again, ranged armies are known to maneuver a lot, and European armies are well known for their Cardio
In the end, though, there is a reason why Japan replaced all their Samurai with spearman
Final note, Samurai aren't trained to fight against opponents who have shields"
Samurai could be spearmen, no?
@@Dowlphin Yes. Both on foot and on horse.
IIRC they were required to bring a horse but weren't always used as cavalry. Japan doesn't have the terrain for it everywhere.
Ok
what era?
samurai from when?
if we go to same time periods, the concept of a samurai doesnt exist yet.
samurai didnt use the katana in battles.
they used spear and pole arm type weapons primarily.
japanese had shields and knew of shields and did infact have training against them. they altered how shields work once they started getting firearms from europe around 14th to 15th century ad.
it would come down to discipline, training and formations.
all of which were well.understood by both
I have always heard that evidence of Roman presence was found in Brazil but was covered up by the Brazilian government- for religious and historical reasons (Catholic Portuguese, not Pagan Romans, were the first to reach Brazil). The theory: a Roman ship off the Iberian coast was blown off course, taking it far west, by a strong hurricane and reached the "Dog's Nose" region of Brazil, which by looking at a map is closest to westernmost Europe. Let’s say it's true. So a Roman commercial or naval ship crashed on the shoals of Brazil, its bedraggled crew dragging themselves onto a Brazilian beach, no idea in hell where they were, no way to return hone, eventually dying from hunger or disease or perhaps killed off by indigenous people, never knowing they had reached the "New World." So what? Such event would have left absolutely no mark on the course of history - little more than a freak accident in time..
How do you become aware of a cover up?
On the Romans in America bit, my great grand uncle did actually find a Roman gold coin in his back yard, so there is circumstantial evidence that Rome did make it at least as far west as Minnesota.
However, it's just one coin. It could have been a family heirloom from a traveller, it could have been a Victorian Era replica, it could have been that a museum lost it, or a million other things. It's not enough to even suggest that Romans made it there because there's so many ways it could have gotten there.
Your great grand uncle may also have been a liar.
The Vikings dropped it.
@@MacEwanMouse It's possible.
@@rogergroover4633 Could be, but I doubt that since they traded with Canadian natives, and that's about it as far as we can tell.
@BertzTriscut Not a fan of the Kensington Runestone?😉
Thank you so much I learned a lot from you open my mind about so much stuff about history that I didn't even know about so I appreciate it keep up the good work man big fan here
The technology to venture to the Americas existed, but without a definite expectation of finding something the Romans never would have launched an expedition. The fact that nobody visited from the other direction would have strongly suggested to them that there was nothing out in that direction.
Love your videos. Always so interesting. To this one I would add that when I visited relatives on mainland Portugal, I was shocked to learn of all the Roman aqueducts still standing, and Roman roads and bridges still in use. We even visited the ancient Roman ruins of Conimbriga, a couple miles from the major city of Coimbra, which itself was a former Roman settlement. Rome did have a far reach, for sure, and lasting impression.
There is a notable improvement in the production of your latest videos, keep up the great work!
They totally did paint pineapples! They called them "pomum pini" LOL
I don't think getting to America as a Roman would have been the problem, its getting back.
The Vikings reached America via the Arctic Circle, it would have been a quicker easier journey. Crossing the Atlantic, even by accident would have been difficult, and getting back using their navigation tools would have been near impossible.
check the major Atlantic currents. There is one that runs almost directly from Africa across.
Rafaello you didn’t mention Hibernia. While they were never colonised I have read that Roman artefacts have found across Ireland. Thanks to San Patrizio Latin came to Ireland but purely for religious reasons, and developed as “Hiberno-Latin” and in turn Latin had some mild influences on Irish (Gaeilge). Before the monks Irish was written in Ogham, and they wrote manuscripts in Latin with side notes in Old Irish, so these monks were responsible for bringing the Latin script to Ireland.
Could you imagine in the second bc era instead of Rome and Carthage fighting Rome decided to spend all of its time and energy getting to foreign lands before they’re even established as a regional power? Pass the smoke boys I need a puff.
As an American, I really hope we find evidence of Rome in our country.
6:40 This is an interesting one. It makes sense that this is a pinecone since pine nuts are still somewhat common and are being consumed all over Europe, especially in the Adriatic region and all the way to Siberia. It could be that the people of Pompey knew how at least tasty if not beneficial they were.
All the best from Slovenia (and Trieste).
Professor: "Oh my god, there's sunflower DNA!? THE ROMANS HAD SUNFLOWERS!?"
Some archaeologist intern: "Ah, no, my bad. I just put our stuff next to a field, sorry 'bout that."
Thanks, I appreciate these types of videos.
Absolutely, I have cooked with pinecone seeds. Very tasty.
That was very enjoyable sir.
Glad to hear!
That boy's not holding a pineapple, he's holding a hand grenade.
Would be into hear your take on the phoenicians reaching america, or sailing around africa.
Even about the chinese treasure fleet, the one that had a book written about it and how it travelled the world
I think you have at 9:30 what is best known in English as sorghum. In fact I think he was describing what we buy in the US under the name of Black African Grain Sorghum. It is a type of Milo. It is a fine forage crop in the Midwest.
I read and watch a video series talking about roman artifacts/coins/etc being found somewhere in the US and stories/drawings/writings talking about the a small detachment of romans being stranded here 2,000 years ago.
Not sure if those claims have strong evidence...
I really enjoy the meticulous detail that Metatron puts in his video. I believe Metatron is the “Pretorian Gaurd” of Factual history🙏✌️
Great info
It can't possibly get any worse than that tik tok chick who claimed that latin was fake and that all roman artifacts were planted by "the victorians", right?
I saw a documentary yesterday that was exploring the ruins of a people that lived on the Canary Islands even before Carthage and Rome explored them.
I remember seeing a video somewhere of a person speculating on whether Romans reached some point on the Canadian coast, because someone else found a Roman coin. The gentleman then went on to point out that a coin on the beach did not constitute evidence. That anyone could have accidentally or intentionally dropped it there.
there were europeans flush with all kinds of coins in Canada.
The Azores or Madeira are possible destinations mentioned in Plutarch's "Life of Sertorius".
I can always count on you to drop a video at the perfect time, and that time is any time. It's always a good time to correct bad history!
Hey there Stef! Thanks!
Not sure if anyone has brought this up far down in the comments, but if you look closely at the "pineapple" in the mosaic, you will see that the "leaves" do not originate from the tip of the object, but seemingly from some other item behind it.
theres also the Robert Marx shipwreck story near brazil that is a "did romans reached south america" , maybe you could make a video about that
This is just absurd. My grandmother always told me: "Don't believe what they tell you in school, the Roman Empire never existed!"
Idek whats an empire
What I like about this guy has nothing to do with Roman history, but how he gets right up IMMEDIATELY into the face of whoever is ranting crap and deluges the bloviating fool with FACTS. Nor is he shy but BOLD in his crushing denunciations!
Have you read "They All Discovered America"
by Charles Michael Boland? One chapter references the probability of a Roman iron mine in Virginia. I read it abt 1965 and remember that there was some metallurgical evidence related to a statue from Pompei.
In my Oklahoma history class in high school our text book discussed Roman coins and pottery that were found in the state (though of course could have been brought here later and lost then found).
Metatron did you ever played any Paradox game?
I love CK2, CK3, Stellaris and Cities Skylines 1 (haven't played CS2)
CK3. As the King of Ireland, in order to get myself in the English succession line, I married my grandson to the King's granddaughter, then I had to use my spy to off the granddaughter's two brothers in order to bring the granddaughter in line for the succession. Thus, my grandson's child would inherit the kingdom of Ireland and England at the same time. It took me a very long time to get my head around how all of that worked. But I absolutely love the detail in those games 😅
City Skylines 1 yes. Crusade Kingdom a little bit. I may have tries Stellaris but I'm not sure. Is is that space 4x game that requires the same amount of study as a post doctoral thesis? If so then yes.
@@metatronyt Stellaris is not that complicated 😵💫😂
@@metatronyt well they have a game about rome, its not that complicated because the ended it early
Great video.
Thanks!
@@metatronyt And thank you for making such Great videos.
The funny thing is pinecones used to actually be called pineapples, and pineapples are so named because they resembled pinecones, the name stuck with the fruit, and pinecones became pinecones to avoid confusion. So technically, it *is* a pineapple, just not the kind they are thinking of.
To be honest, I am very skeptical about the Azores. It is a considerable distance across the open sea - which is very different from navigating the same distance in coastal waters that both Carthiginian and Roman ships were built for.
Ocean going vessels weren't a thing until the late Middle Ages, perhaps a bit earler in ancient China.
But, ultimately, we'll never know. Of course it is possible that a Carthiginian or Roman vessel was blown off course and somehow made it there. But it also would have had to make it back...
Awesome, awesome video Metatron.
You got the nail in so many things here.
Including the statement that of course we would find awesome if there WAS contact.
But there is no evidence. Or at least not GOOD evidence.
And even if there was evidence of a few Romans in Americaor a few Indians in Europe, that could be simple shipwrecks, or stranded ships that just crossed the ocean, without means for them to ever return (without knowledge of the turn of the sea)
Meaning, nothing even close to what we saw at the Columbian Exchange.
And that is also valid to the Norse colonies in Canada, that became myth soon afterwards, unlike age of exploration discoveries that resulted in the entire world being explored in 100 years (not antártica) and The entire planet being aware of other far away countries.
If Pineapples were of Roman origin, Pinapple Pizza would be the default Pizza.
Dont forget the vikings who reached north america
I very much appreciate your attention to historical detail and your willingness to reject "popular" or "woke" historical narratives when they contradict honest historical context and reliable evidence.
In Puerto Rico the castle has Roman pillars in the entrance … if you can look it up I got the video when I took my family earlier this year .
In wars past, armies were accompanied by countless non-combatants (camp-followers) including wives, children, prostitutes, logistics contractors, pawn brokers, spectators, etc. For example, this happened in the US as recently as the American Civil War (1861-5). I suggest you do an episode addressing this.
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With my bad memory I recall reading about a possible Roman camp-site in Eastern Canada - including a plant used medicinally by the Romans still growing at the site.
That Roman terracotta head found in a Mayan dig was discovered in 1933. The archeologist in charge Jose Payon just dated the burial before European contact, no guess as to how it got there. The age that it has been dated to was pretty broad, 9th century BC to 13th AD. I like, based on nothing, either the hypothesis that it was from a ship wreck, being blown waaaaaay of course or it got there round about from a Spanish explorer who somehow got lost. The archeologist who named another digger placing it in the dig as a joke on Payon sounds plausible but everyone is dead so all we're left with is 3rd hand bs.
Oh great Megatron! Not to ignore your videos subject but HAVE YOU EVER watched a channel called MY LUNCH BREAK? Some very bizarre and even extreme ideas put forward about history. Keep up the great work ✌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
6:15 Let’s be honest, we all know it’s a child soldier and he is holding a pineapple grenade.
Hey Metatron, have you ever played the EU4 mod The Third Odyssey? In it, the Romans/Byzantines flee to the New World just before the Ottomans conquer Constantinople and establish a new “Elysian” empire so that they may eventually return and retake their homeland.
Also, Vinland still exists in this timeline, and there’s a Roman breakaway state in Central America called Spartakon.
I'm not saying they did reach America, but they did have the technology especially at the time they conquered Britain. They had ships capable of patrolling the North Sea to deal with Saxon pirates. They could have island hopped to Iceland, Greenland and finally northern Canada similar to the Vikings a few centuries later. IF we are going to find something, its going to be up that way.
That’s no pineapple! That’s no pine cone! IT’S A HAND GRENADE! YIKES!!
I'd be interested in a discussion of Roman trade ships reaching China. They seem to have achieved this around 150 AD IIRC, and there is documentation. I suppose it was an attempt to cut out the middle man.
If there had been anything as exotic as a pineapple around you can bet that Apicius would have mentioned it.
A lovely video
That's not a pineapple its a hand grenade 😂
The mosaic argument reminds me of the cave paintings people claim as stegosaurs, to claim humans and dinosaurs lived beside each other. Now there might be longer between steggy and t rex than t rex and us but that doesn't stop them. I did read somewhere that the Phoenicians potentially made it to equatorial Africa, obviously long before the Romans. But it could be possible, but we need evidence rather than Romans being cool and sailing across the world
Sir, I would love to hear your thoughts on the Roman pots found in Guanabara Bay.
I remember that Rome created the grappling hook in the first punic war and not some plank of wood that they would use to board an enemy ship.
south, and now west, cant wait for east, although im curios if rome got as far north as either iceland or greenland(am super ignorant about northern lol)
The idea of the Roman empire reaching the America continent is really interesting. I wonder how the world would have looked like if they actually had reached it.
"This is so crazy: it was a student prank." I find that EXTREMELY believable. Everything shocking should, by standard procedure, first check for student prank.
I have another sugestion why the romens woud not have been able to sail to america and it is quit simple.
They had galeones with antic rigging, so one sail at best. They were not so far north that they coud travel from Greenland, so they had only the equator option. That takes around 3 to 6 months with a fully rigged ship and good weather. A antic galeones coud technical withstand mild sea so it woud be possible, but the crew coudn't. With one sail, rowing was needed. That means hard work and a large crew. Plus even with rowing, this woud take close to a full year. They coudn't load that much provisions to support the crew that woud be needed, to cross the north atlantic.
Im from the Canary Islands and its interesting to hear the Romans paid a visit at some time. But there were natives on the Islands, called "Guanches" in Spanish, they are belived to have settled there around a milenia before Christ. The are related tohave come from the north african berber populations as their skin color and hair feauters were not typical african. Some had blonde hair and blue eyes, for example.They fought the Spanish and were still figthing at the time Columbus sailed to America and "discovered it", i see you Viking brothers! As a plus Metatron just told me theres is a possibility to find a Lorica Segmentata buried somewhere around here!
Thank you for the very interesting video. By the way, is that a commodore 64 sitting behind and to the right of you?
For a Roman ship to carry provisions to keep it's crew alive for a transatlantic voyage, it would have taken some whisper of foreknowledge of where they were going and how long it would take so they provide the victuals needed.
I also wonder about the seaworthiness of Roman steering oars in the Atlantic, too.
The Roman fleet that traded with India was deep-sea capable, but a whole new fleet would have to be built as there was no viable route from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean.
@rcrawford42, I'd love to see what those Roman ships trading with India were like. Indian accounts of them say they were "beautifully made".
The Roman ships that traded with India were able to hug the coastline with short crossings only. That is nothing like sailing across the Atlantic.
Evidence of the Indian trade has been found in Roman sites, but nothing from the Americas.
Just to show you how things can somethimes not be what they seem I had a small Roman gold coin, or so I thought. It was an Indian copy made at the time the Romans were trading with India. So I have a Indian copy of a Roman coin made at the time of the Roman Empire.
Hello Metatron. This is only a tangentially related question because it got of involves Rome's expansion into Britain. What are your thoughts on Norma Goodrich's King Arthur books and theories.
Thanks for a wonderful and intellectual channel.
Complete and utter bollocks.
It's okay to be anglo saxon 👍🏻
Hell yes it is 👍👍
It's okay to be the walrus.
I prefer to be the carpenter.
@@ansibarius4633The Walrus is Paul.😂
@Ric_1-t9e I identify as octopussy
A ship or two getting very far West does not mean "discovery", especially if it didn't come back or report in a way that spread the awareness.
See while nothing is impossible... ship movements at this time were very coast based as in you kept the coast within your line of sight as much as possible. There wasn't exactly an easy way to navigate at sea during the night for Romans as I don't how well they could use star navigation. Like you can't stop for a break in the open sea and went for the sun to come up to get your bearings. Generally speaking losing sight of the coast was a death sentence and that's also not taking how into account Romans felt about the sea in general. They hated and feared it, you can tell that general feeling from how they portray Neptune. He was respected but mostly feared, and sailors at this time would be very into superstition. I can't imagine a lot of sailors would be up for a suicide mission on open water in hopes of finding land. People seem to think oh if boat can float, boat can go anywhere. Nah at this period boats sank to rather mild storms and an open sea storm is a complete and utter different beast that can sneak up on you. Just take in account how fcking massive boats are when Europeans really get exploring and travelling the world, even than those boats sank and went missing all the time. That's also not taking into account that Romans would be just as risk as getting Scurvy and other illnesses, making long times out at sea less than ideal.
The Romans DID sail from the Red Sea to India, across the Arabian Sea. But they used the monsoon winds to do it, and only tried that route after centuries of Greeks making their way around the coasts to reach India.
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LOL, even the Spanish (first in the new world) had MASSIVE challenges bringing a SINGLE non-rotten pineapple back to Iberia! King Phillip 2 of Spain was said to have bragged and even added it to his ridiculous medieval (and practically GoT) list of honorifics “he who has eaten the pineapple of the new world…first of his kind!”