Fox Float X vs DVO Topaz PRIME

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025

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  • @justsayin3600
    @justsayin3600 5 месяцев назад +2

    From watching your vid on the EXT, I called Cascade since at 1 time had a discount if you bought a link. Cascade helped out even though the promotion was over. Both Cascade and EXT was awesome to work with! The E-Storia is being installed and I pick it up tomorrow. Super Stoked!

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      Levo? I’m barrowing a Levo with cascade link. It’s fun I can’t bottom it out 😂

  • @BrawndoDrinker
    @BrawndoDrinker 5 месяцев назад +4

    DVO was created by the man that founded Marzoochi USA. They have the knowledge. With all the deals in the industry, I just look for anything I want to try that is heavily discounted. End of summer early fall will bring a crap ton of deals. I converted my Zeb to coil with a Smashpot, feels way better.

  • @marioxphoto703
    @marioxphoto703 5 месяцев назад

    thank you for making this video. your timing is actually perfect lol

    • @marioxphoto703
      @marioxphoto703 5 месяцев назад

      Can i put a dvo jade on my status though?

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      DVO does not advise you put their coil on bikes like the Status. Because of the strut holding the shock on. Specialized bikes are notoriously not coil friendly.
      If you want to go coil on it, progressive spring only, and I haven’t tried many coil on it, so I’m not sure which one is best, more to come

    • @marioxphoto703
      @marioxphoto703 5 месяцев назад

      @@OtterMTBtech what is a progressive spring? compared to the normal one?

  • @lite31
    @lite31 5 месяцев назад +4

    A custom tuned dvo for the bike and your weight would be a more reasonable comparison since the float x is custome tune to the frame. This is more like a different shock comparison with tuned and stock shock.
    Well maybe not entirely since most shock is tune for an average weight to fit more rider.
    But would be cool to see you compare of a dvo tuned shock.
    And also a good chance to do a video on the difference of custom tune shock, shim tuning etc.

    • @geno____34
      @geno____34 5 месяцев назад +1

      He doesn't even know what stock tunes are nor is he aware of the relation leverage ratio / damper tune.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      Tunes are like make up, enhance a good shock, I have wasted hundreds of dollars on a RockShox tune. And then bought clapped out ohlins, DVO, EXT shocks that rode like crazy good. Who’s the 🤡 here bro

    • @geno____34
      @geno____34 5 месяцев назад

      @@OtterMTBtech easy to throw away hundreds of dollars if you don't know what you are talking about.

    • @lite31
      @lite31 5 месяцев назад +1

      There's a reason why some bike brand have custom tune shock for the frame, just like your ebike. Give it a try at DVO custom tuned, perhaps it will change your mind. DVO got very good support.

    • @dkumagai30
      @dkumagai30 5 месяцев назад

      @@geno____34 I’d argue damper tunes are more for adjusting damping for a given spring rate, which is correlated with weight. E.g heavy rider and higher pressure = lower compression and higher rebound.
      I’m not a suspension engineer, but I am an engineer, and one of only a handful of riders that does their own suspension maintenance and custom tuning.

  • @MikePalmer42
    @MikePalmer42 5 месяцев назад

    It's worth adding the compession knob to the shock made a big difference to my float x easy and inexpensive mod

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      Avoid These Fox DHX Coil Shock SETUP Mistakes
      ruclips.net/video/0BhjlgehYA0/видео.html
      Agree Have a video on it. Shock has 3d printed 1 on it

  • @yinghamlyn-chen2
    @yinghamlyn-chen2 5 месяцев назад +3

    Hi great video could you do a intend fork or rear shock review as they have been know to be the best for small bump sensitivity

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      Great suggestion! Except the price and it’s a euro shock.

  • @cheut
    @cheut 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve heard the new DVOs high and low speed compression circuits aren’t independent, similar to the old Fox DPX2

  • @CRGT666
    @CRGT666 5 месяцев назад

    If there’s any chance, I’d appreciate a DVO Topaz vs SR suntour Triair 2.

  • @mustclime5311
    @mustclime5311 5 месяцев назад

    MY experience with the topaz is that bladder in the piggyback leaks. I had to add air for every ride on the old ripmo.

    • @afrewer94
      @afrewer94 5 месяцев назад +1

      Did you have a pump with one of the two stage low leak heads or a check valve? I've found with mine that the volume of the bladder is so small that it seems like it's lost air but really it's because some of that air is filling up the pump when you attach it.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      What pump is the one that has a cut off?

    • @afrewer94
      @afrewer94 5 месяцев назад

      @@OtterMTBtech Specialized, I think there are others

    • @ErhardFrebold
      @ErhardFrebold 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@afrewer94 I, too found this and confirmed it by checking the pressure with my standard pump both right after filling the bladder back to recommended pressure, and after 3 weeks. It was always down by the same amount regardless of time. If the bladder leaked it would be lower with more time. That pressure drop at least in my case is just the air required to fill the pump hose up on connecting to the shock.

  • @hellotherexu2393
    @hellotherexu2393 5 месяцев назад

    Do I review of the dhx2 coil shock and a comparison with the ohlins, ext and push. Thinking of trying smt different

    • @Emolokz
      @Emolokz 5 месяцев назад

      @@hellotherexu2393 dhx2's snap on Status frames, running it is not advisable.

  • @kevankakes
    @kevankakes 5 месяцев назад

    You ever get your hand on some Ohlins products? Been working for months trying to get my Ohlins RXF 38 dialed. It’s tough but they feel unique.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      EXT Era V2.1 Fork | Stiffest Fork ever made
      ruclips.net/video/n17o5N7XMsI/видео.html
      Use the setup tips in this video, don’t listen to the recommended pressure match the ramp up to sag pressure, then dial in ramp up slowly otherwise your riding into a wall

  • @ryansteiger6960
    @ryansteiger6960 5 месяцев назад

    Would be interesting to see if the float X becomes better if you change the compression shim tune

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      Waste of money to be frank, shock is worth $150

    • @justsayin3600
      @justsayin3600 5 месяцев назад

      For my annual service on my Float X I had Fox put a med+ tune and a 1.0 spacer on my 23 Stumpjumper Evo. It rides noticeably better for me on this specific bike, and according to my weight.

    • @orla222
      @orla222 Месяц назад

      ​@@justsayin3600how much your weight?

  • @MikeesTexas
    @MikeesTexas 5 месяцев назад

    Im noticing the status 2 models are being sold with coils, Do u know if the progression has been increased on the new frames? Thanks brother, keep overloading my brain with shock goodnes🤘

  • @Tr_Fast
    @Tr_Fast 5 месяцев назад

    yah my floax x came on my status and that is the one part i will not change on it excluding the LSC knob i slapped onto it. so far ive changed the entire drive train cranks, bb, cassette, derailleur to gx and the rim's to roval. and im thinking about putting a Charger 3 zeb onto it.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      Built my from frame up to avoid your current headache. Stock part’s grenade after 3 months

    • @Emolokz
      @Emolokz 5 месяцев назад

      @@OtterMTBtech likewise, also frame up, especially after that $420 fire sale.

  • @bobrider10
    @bobrider10 5 месяцев назад

    Can you review that transx wireless dropper that you had on your ebike?

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      It sucks don’t buy it. That’s why there’s no video

    • @bobrider10
      @bobrider10 5 месяцев назад

      @@OtterMTBtech ahh ok. Why though? Just bad battery and function or just like overall user experience is bad?

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      1st the thing comes up like molasses, thought it was broken first day it was so slow
      This summer it has been ok
      Cold weather (Oregon) 40 degree not that cold, it would loose connection every day sometimes mid ride.
      Every time a battery dies it losses connection which the the shifter button does allot ( expensive battery like $10)
      The pairing process is unreliable takes many tries
      If you drive with it the battery’s die both leaving you dropper post less
      Rather than get the 400 hate mail comments I just skip bad products
      And I can’t sell out like most RUclipsrs even if it keeps me poor
      The stack height is massive.
      Allot of these problems are same as $800 AXS post I had
      Realizing this is why there’s no GX AXS dropper post because they’re super hard to make, and it would be an unreliable turd

  • @chrisianroberts8796
    @chrisianroberts8796 5 месяцев назад

    I am running a Pivot Shuttle AM e-bike 50lbs and I'm probably 210lbs with gear. The Pivot DW-link design is not progressive and It came with a Fox 36 Factory with DSD Runt upfront (for more small bump and even better progressive top out)- Float X factory 185x55 trunnion; which I have to run at 240psi in Rocky/dry/loose sand/granite Arizona. Am I considered outside most air shocks operation zone also because of 210 lbs but looking to drop 20 more lbs in the next 14months? as I'm looking for a glued to the ground damping for traction as my Amish Pivot Mach 5.5 is DVO and setup poppy riding. Thoughts on Rear shocks as I have been watching all your videos.. The EXT Coil seems like it might be too complicated for me to get setup and $$$$. Cane Creeks combo air/coil looked interesting but people seem to be having the typical cane creek failed seals.

    • @jonibz1456
      @jonibz1456 5 месяцев назад +1

      If you buy a EXT shock, the seller should set it up for you and your bike. You will get 2 coils for your weight range, so it will be ok to ride almost direct, you could probably play a little with the rebound to confirm, but that’s it.
      Well that’s how they do it in Europe anyway

    • @hellotherexu2393
      @hellotherexu2393 5 месяцев назад

      Do I review of the dhx2 coil shock and a comparison with the ohlins, ext and push. Thinking of trying smt different

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      @Christianroberts so I’m about 230 pounds with my gear on and a camera bag. Same problem as you. My Bikes are to linear. 240 is good pressure I’m like 280psi on float X, needs .6 token
      The best shock is the one you got drop the DVO piggy back pressure low and it will give you a more stable planted ride, you didn’t say it was coil or air or which one. Also drop the spring rate and add on full compression
      (the old DVO shocks with 3 position compression) the mid setting is the most damping you could ever ask for, just drop the spring rate to compensate
      Speed rebound up, sounds backwards but it will be more planted.
      Ext is hard to setup if you don’t know how it works. Tigon is more air than coil 😉
      Sounds like you’re a coil guy I didn’t know I was for years of frustration on air shocks 😆.
      I had to get a new bike to fulfill that destiny. Rocky Mountain power play on the way.

    • @justsayin3600
      @justsayin3600 5 месяцев назад

      Just bought an EXT E-Storia for my 23 Stumpjumper Evo. Their springs go to 800lbs. They will work with you to tune the shock for your bike, for your weight, for your riding style. All this is 3/4 the battle. Setting up the fine tuning is easy once you actually study what each setting is for vs listening to people on RUclips. Granted it's 1200.00 bucks but you won't get another custom tuned shock like it on the market.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      Dvo does same job. For half price. You get what you pay for

  • @JAM76ER
    @JAM76ER 5 месяцев назад

    Great video! What tire pressure are you running? I’m between 210-215. I think you may be around the same weight. Thank you.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      I use DH casing Maxxis tires so it may be different. 30-35 rear 25-28 front. Rocks the higher side soft trail soft number

  • @Emolokz
    @Emolokz 5 месяцев назад +1

    You need to get the knob upgrade for the Float X to change it to Performance Elite. It's a VERY cheap upgrade.

    • @mattwoods8872
      @mattwoods8872 5 месяцев назад +1

      I upgraded my knob

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      I got the knob job bro. The eBay 1

    • @federicomarmolejo1952
      @federicomarmolejo1952 5 месяцев назад +1

      I just got an Float X 2025 and i am wondering what the knob upgrade is ? thanks

    • @Emolokz
      @Emolokz 5 месяцев назад

      @@federicomarmolejo1952 low speed compression (LSC) knob. Look it up on Fanatik or The Lost Co., it'll pop right up. It upgrades your Float X performance to performance elite, only like $35 or so if I recall

    • @mattwoods8872
      @mattwoods8872 5 месяцев назад

      @@federicomarmolejo1952
      If you have a performance series shock , you can buy the LSC dial assembly from fox and put it on ya shock , thus making it an elite model , worth cheap upgrade

  • @MrTrixton
    @MrTrixton 5 месяцев назад

    If only dvo made a shock that fits a banshee . The wide reservoir hits the frame.

    • @dkumagai30
      @dkumagai30 5 месяцев назад

      They keep changing the orientation of the reservoir. The first topaz and this generation are sideways, but the t3 is parallel to the shock body.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад

      You think that’s bad, I just put a shock in a Propane frame. 0-1mm clearance

  • @mybadvideos
    @mybadvideos 5 месяцев назад

    Can you confirm that the new Z1 is just objectively worse than the old Z1?
    It seems to me the super z is now what the Z1 was and the Z1 is now more like what the Z2 was

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      You are exactly correct 2025 Marzocchi Bomber Z1 Revealed
      ruclips.net/video/1kWPU_cA1CM/видео.html

  • @xav_1029
    @xav_1029 5 месяцев назад

    Mara Pro crying in the corner feeling left out.

    • @OtterMTBtech
      @OtterMTBtech  5 месяцев назад +1

      Manitou Mara PRO Experience
      ruclips.net/video/M2kLTIft-VE/видео.html