I was searching for a decent wheelbuilder and because of this video, today I ordered my very first custom wheels at WHEEL-TEC, even if I´m located in Germany. I couldn´t be happier with the ordering process, Marc is amazing at helping you to find the right components for your needs. Highly recommended!
I built my own set of MTB wheels with Berd/WeAreOne/I9Hydra the Berd spokes are what really make a difference in the build. The low moment of inertia and damping are really amazing.
This is a piece of badass information, this guy is a scientist when it comes to wheels, this is stronger than steal. I will like to see his recommendations for speed on a mtb on road or cross country, since those spokes are not for speed i will like to see his recommendations for that. These are the guys we need interviews on. Good questions, I hate spending money on crap when I could have gotten something better in the beginning to fit my style of riding instead of marketing gimmicks', This guy is the real deal. Thanks man.
Hey mate, you should definitely get in touch with wheeltec. He’s build wheels for others all over the world after my last video I did with him. Let me know how it goes!
I expect that the stretch and pre-stretch is mainly because the Dynema is woven, basically the fibres cross each other inside each rope and not because the dynema properties itself. The weave and fibers internally touch each other and when bending can move and open up. Once the spokes are inside the wheel, the load force is completely inline, and so basically the fibers can settle/align them self optimally.
Amazing video. I like it goes into quite a detailed explanation regarding this new type of spokes. I’ve just read about them few days ago after Tom won the XC race at the Olympics. I’ve done couple of certificates in bike mechanics and it’s curious to see that in lots of countries in Europe it’s common practice to have such a specialized wheel builders, crazy about the level you can go on that one.
As a wheel builder myself, I am always impressed by those who can adjust tension by ear for many different spokes. I don't have such great ears, so I rely on precision tools. I do build wheels for motorized bicycles, so those wheels typically go up to around 135-155kg of tension, and this guy is right: the rim is the most important part. The hub flanges can handle much higher loads than the rim can, so you have to choose the right rim for the load that the wheel is going to experience. The spokes are the next most important component, the wrong material, length, or diameter can ruin an otherwise perfectly good wheel.
i don't think a normal daily rider or even small event participating rider ever would be thinking so much about the wheel like shown in the video. Amazing details and the detail explanation given is mind blowing. Thanks again for another tech details video.
I've bought wheelset from elite wheels that is using the same rims. Opted for no spoke holes and 3k glossy finish. Look super cool. And weight exact 1200g. Very happy with them. Sub $500 price after adding a coupon was also nice. Compared to a big brands it's cheap.
I believe BERD spokes are future materials for bike’s wheel. These Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMWPE) spoke material is ideal for bikes due to its incredible strength of 15x than steel, not to mention it has low friction coefficient, excellent impact strength and impervious to extreme shifts in weather temperature. Glad its technology trickled to bike industry. As a cyclist, I’m excited about this! Thanks Jasper for sharing this vid!
Maybe because it’s more hassle for him. If he only builds 1 wheel like it it would be too big of an investment (in time) to make it. Get your wheels from wheeltec 👍🏻
I have three set of Berd wheels. One for XC hawk27 with I9 hubs, one Trail Hawk30 with Onyx hubs, one Eunduro Hawk30X with Onyx hubs. They all ride fantastic, so light and radially supple and laterally stiff.
Random comment. As someone who is an admittedly overweight 109kg (6' 1") I cant tell you how refreshing it was to hear someone talking about being 100kg!
The "squishing" is to take out the stretch that is in the spoke material due to it being woven. Prestressing it like that seats the individual fibres tightly together and is a one hit thing, once it has been removed it won't come back, especially if the spokes remain under tension. It doesn't mean that the actual fibres are strechy. The same thing is done with structural cables in bridges and buildings, although the method is obviously different
Really cool. Regarding deep section and mtb tires, it was tested by a gravel rider in a windtunnel. It was actually a difference. But i agree with the reasoning regarding reactiveness. 👍
Yes Dylan Johnson did some tests. But aerodynamics are not predictable. And he did have an aero disadvantage (I think) but took it to be able to ride wider tires. He never tested those wide tires with normal vs berd spokes or shallow vs deep rims. The results will vary per tire type and won’t be the same for my wheels. (His tires were less wide too) So, what he tested is only relevant for him. All of that said, unbound is also very specific. Lots of long stretches where spin up isn’t a factor
This video is not really about the two Olympic champions but about the craftsman that can build a carbon wheel set with Berd spokes in an 1h30! He has the tools and the skills. It will take time but shops will get there. This video should be shared with the shops near you.
It really seems like these would be the ideal spokes for almost all wheels. With all the advantages, I can't believe that they are not even more known and used. I would really like to try these for gravel/ tracklocross riding, the dampening seems ideal.
Yep for gravel and Mtb is seems great. It’s less aero so for road use not the best solution. Also less bups on road rides. Besides that the cost would be a factor too
I have had the Berd spokes for 2 years. it gives a comfrt to a ride yet stiff. Sound akward but it is as stiff as stainless spoke But much more comfort
@@jasperverkuijl Better as in more durable, and they look better, I am not a fan of hairy string. My spinergy wheel failed after two years when the freewheel failed, wheel was always true. Great spokes.
I love the wheels and the idea for flex spokes but I would like to see it in action, as in seeing the turning of the wheel like a start of a race or the beggining of a hard sprint. Doesn't it flex as well in a tangential way loosing momentun for a while?
@@santiagobenitesI agree it’s quite expensive. I don’t know how much of it would be from actual material cost and how much is development, marketing etc etc. No idea
They are pricey but they're not more expensive than other high end wheels. The Berd sparrow wheel set is ~$2200, the Rival Terra CL are $1750, the Bontrager Aeolus RSL 37V are $2800, the Zipp 101 XPLR are ~$1900. And that's only gravel wheels. Look at some other top end mtb wheels and you'll see similar pricing. $8/spoke is about twice as much as steel, but they allow an alloy wheel build to get as light as carbon for a lot less cost than a carbon rim. The only downsides are they're much more of a pain to build with, and they demand their own spoke length calculations. Pretty small price to pay comparatively for simultaneously stronger, lighter and more compliant wheels. Edited to correct price
What about the test with the weight hitting the wheel, it’s clearly more compliant (the wheel with steel spokes breaks) I haven’t done a lateral stiffness test so can’t back that up with any exact numbers but they felt really sturdy riding them on the Mtb
@@jasperverkuijl Sure, Dyneema spokes might result in a more robust wheel. If it requires more force to break a spoke it will require more force to break the wheel. The other topic, related but not the same, is compliance. More compliance means more deformation per unit of force applied. The spokes are the only thing connecting the hub to the rim, so if the spokes are more compliant radially, the wheel will also be more compliant laterally. I don't see how it could be any different. In practice, I suspect that while the radial compliance of these wheels might well be higher than those with steel spokes, the difference is probably negligible once you take into account the compliance of a mountain bike tire. So maybe the main advantages are in the weight savings and the strength. Speculating here on that last bit, but I'm pretty sure that lateral stiffness goes hand in hand with radial stiffness when it comes to the wheel.
@@user-uu1um1ql1bthe other factor you forget is the vibration dampening, that’s a big one. About the compliance, I think Marc also explains the berd spoke won’t transfer any load back to the hub where a steel spoke will (when the rim would be compressed) I also think it’s different with static vs dynamic load. I don’t know exactly all answers, but I find it an interesting topic and I’ll discuss with Marc. Maybe we can do a lateral stiffness test against another wheel with steel spokes and see the result.
I think tennis rackets are flexing and therefore bounce the ball. It’s not really the same thing. I don’t think it can be implemented in a disc wheel since those are solid
Dyneema ropes has been used for decades on competition sailboats, for more or less the exact same reason: Extremely strong and lightweight, close to static (i.e. non-elastic)
"The marketing bla-bla" - so true! And the same for these Berd Spokes, knotted to the hub and glued to a "piece of spoke" - weird. I prefer Pi Rope over Berd Spokes!
These spokes look and sound great. My only issue is the price. Dyneema is a fairly inexpensive product, and all Berd's manufacturing involves is creating a hook loop and integrating a small metal part to fit with a spoke nipple. Obviously there are costs added on for R&D, but it still seems excessive.
I hear everyone say Dyneema is expansive. I dont know. But the need spoke is quite a bit more “complicated” than a regular spike so I do see a big difference there..
@@jasperverkuijl Yeah, I was going to order some after seeing this video until I saw the price. It seemed cheap until I realised how many spokes were on a wheel 😅. Anyway, great video as usual Jasper, love the content 👍
How are the experiences with regular hubs and nylon rubbing, longterm? I imagine the designed hubs have sharp-ish corners and with the spokes absorbing vibration/moving a little, the nylon will rub on the metal?
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Tom Pidcock won largely because he is an incredible rider.
Of course he did!! Nevertheless, equipment is important and it’s interesting why certain people (like Tom) choose for specific equipment 🙌🏻
He has the weight of a child
0.005% faster with those spokes, I got it😅
Heard of Berd awhile ago, buddy actually had some on his bike and in person it's crazy @@MangoJim90
@@Paganiproductions84 And Hulk's power
This man (wheel builder guy) is a camera/youtube natural. As soon as I noticed, the video ended. Very entertaining.
Finally someone who knows what it takes to build THE Wheelset and how freaking important it is, and literally almost nobody does care !💯
🤙🏻🤙🏻
I was searching for a decent wheelbuilder and because of this video, today I ordered my very first custom wheels at WHEEL-TEC, even if I´m located in Germany. I couldn´t be happier with the ordering process, Marc is amazing at helping you to find the right components for your needs. Highly recommended!
Awesome! 👏
This is so cool, I love to watch experts in their craft!
I only ride on wheels I have built myself. I would let this guy build wheels for me any day. He’s obviously a master.
🙌🏻🙌🏻 that’s why I go to him 🤙🏻
lol, same here 👍🏻
@@jasperverkuijlThanks Jasper for introducing this man - need to get my hands on these spokes! 🤙
@@domestique3954awesome. Let me know the result when you have some 🫡🙌🏻
He's literally lied on camera about the spoke material. Berd spokes arent made of Dyneema. German ones are.
you got the pinacle of wheel builders, for top stuff !
Always amazed how this one man show is so top.
This was a very happy surprise - not the conversation and masterclass I was expecting!!
🫡🙏
I built my own set of MTB wheels with Berd/WeAreOne/I9Hydra the Berd spokes are what really make a difference in the build. The low moment of inertia and damping are really amazing.
This is a piece of badass information, this guy is a scientist when it comes to wheels, this is stronger than steal. I will like to see his recommendations for speed on a mtb on road or cross country, since those spokes are not for speed i will like to see his recommendations for that. These are the guys we need interviews on. Good questions, I hate spending money on crap when I could have gotten something better in the beginning to fit my style of riding instead of marketing gimmicks', This guy is the real deal. Thanks man.
Hey mate, you should definitely get in touch with wheeltec. He’s build wheels for others all over the world after my last video I did with him. Let me know how it goes!
See my comment above and reconsider. No one has produced actual data supporting their claims.
I expect that the stretch and pre-stretch is mainly because the Dynema is woven, basically the fibres cross each other inside each rope and not because the dynema properties itself. The weave and fibers internally touch each other and when bending can move and open up. Once the spokes are inside the wheel, the load force is completely inline, and so basically the fibers can settle/align them self optimally.
👍🏻
the answer to your original question; because Tom Pidcock is riding it!
nice vid tho :)
Beat me to it 😂
That too 😂😂
Have you rode them?
"It not about the bike"....okay, flame away Lance fans! ;-)
The wheels allow him to ride faster than with steel spokes over rough segments. HE wouldn't be as fast.
Because Tom Pidcock is riding it.
Amazing video. I like it goes into quite a detailed explanation regarding this new type of spokes. I’ve just read about them few days ago after Tom won the XC race at the Olympics. I’ve done couple of certificates in bike mechanics and it’s curious to see that in lots of countries in Europe it’s common practice to have such a specialized wheel builders, crazy about the level you can go on that one.
This is an absolute master class in wheel building. Love tonsee this stuff.
Super interesting video! Well explained to make it understandable and enjoyable for me without a technical background. Thank you Jasper and Mark!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Oh sweet cant wait for the Cape Epic videos :)
Fantastic craftsman and a very interesting technique!
As a wheel builder myself, I am always impressed by those who can adjust tension by ear for many different spokes. I don't have such great ears, so I rely on precision tools. I do build wheels for motorized bicycles, so those wheels typically go up to around 135-155kg of tension, and this guy is right: the rim is the most important part. The hub flanges can handle much higher loads than the rim can, so you have to choose the right rim for the load that the wheel is going to experience. The spokes are the next most important component, the wrong material, length, or diameter can ruin an otherwise perfectly good wheel.
He uses the gauge to check the actual tension, but sound to check which spoke to tension and true the wheel. 🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl that's good to know, thanks. Makes me feel much better about it.
i don't think a normal daily rider or even small event participating rider ever would be thinking so much about the wheel like shown in the video. Amazing details and the detail explanation given is mind blowing. Thanks again for another tech details video.
Welcome!
Ironically I do. I just can't afford this.
This video is gold. Great questions man, made it really interesting
Glad you enjoyed it!
what an awesome wheel technician and interesting video. thanks!!
Our pleasure!
that is the most beautiful bike shop i have ever seen.
🙌🏻
Cant wait for the race video🤙
Dyneema was actually developed by DSM a Dutch company 😊. Also used in bike clothing
Spinergy had tension-based flexible carbon spokes that would flex the wheel the same way 20 years ago.
Yes but carbon is brittle and doesn't deal with impacts under tension very well. Dyneema is a resilient fibre that is used to make bullet proof vests.
Spox I had them super light
I’ve been riding spinergy mtb wheels with pbo fibre spokes for more than 10 years. They’re great
same
WOW, I want this guy to build my wheels!
You can. Just call or email wheeltec and say I sent you. He ships all over the world
the knowolige of this man was great
I’m in with those spokes! Anything to get my ride more comfortable. Comfort overt weight, all the time for me!
its crazy how bike tech is evolving, the riders ability level is insane as well
Yep. Wheels are still round but so different than a while ago!
@@jasperverkuijl Those new spokes are something else though... they are new aren't they, or have I been hidden under a rock 😅
I've bought wheelset from elite wheels that is using the same rims. Opted for no spoke holes and 3k glossy finish. Look super cool. And weight exact 1200g. Very happy with them. Sub $500 price after adding a coupon was also nice. Compared to a big brands it's cheap.
I don’t think the rims are the same. But they could be similar.
Truly informative. I learned something about every aspect of wheels.
Awesome!
I believe BERD spokes are future materials for bike’s wheel. These Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMWPE) spoke material is ideal for bikes due to its incredible strength of 15x than steel, not to mention it has low friction coefficient, excellent impact strength and impervious to extreme shifts in weather temperature.
Glad its technology trickled to bike industry. As a cyclist, I’m excited about this!
Thanks Jasper for sharing this vid!
i once asked a very experienced wheel builder in my area … he said no to this kind of spoke…which was saddened me for three years now
@@davidgoon1978Any ideas why would he do that? My guess is that its complicated and time consuming to tighten them well.
Brilliant! More plastic!
Welcome! 🫡
Maybe because it’s more hassle for him. If he only builds 1 wheel like it it would be too big of an investment (in time) to make it.
Get your wheels from wheeltec 👍🏻
Hello..this is my first time here on your channel. I love it. Great content presented well and edited Nicely ❤
Thanks mate. Welcome to the channel! 🙌🏻
I have three set of Berd wheels. One for XC hawk27 with I9 hubs, one Trail Hawk30 with Onyx hubs, one Eunduro Hawk30X with Onyx hubs. They all ride fantastic, so light and radially supple and laterally stiff.
Nice!!
ooooooooooh!
Here I am with a set of Hunt wheelset
@@alabaster4263 I have two sets of Hunt wheels from my Privateer 141 and 161. They are good wheels
Random comment. As someone who is an admittedly overweight 109kg (6' 1") I cant tell you how refreshing it was to hear someone talking about being 100kg!
Great content as ever !!!
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Berd spokes are the greatest upgrade I ever made to a bike. So smooth.
Great video!
What's the weight of your Wheel Set (without the tyres ofc)?
I never tested 🤓 so will need to do that still…
Thanks, incredibly interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The "squishing" is to take out the stretch that is in the spoke material due to it being woven. Prestressing it like that seats the individual fibres tightly together and is a one hit thing, once it has been removed it won't come back, especially if the spokes remain under tension.
It doesn't mean that the actual fibres are strechy.
The same thing is done with structural cables in bridges and buildings, although the method is obviously different
👍🏻👍🏻🙏
Really cool. Regarding deep section and mtb tires, it was tested by a gravel rider in a windtunnel. It was actually a difference. But i agree with the reasoning regarding reactiveness. 👍
Yes Dylan Johnson did some tests. But aerodynamics are not predictable. And he did have an aero disadvantage (I think) but took it to be able to ride wider tires.
He never tested those wide tires with normal vs berd spokes or shallow vs deep rims. The results will vary per tire type and won’t be the same for my wheels. (His tires were less wide too)
So, what he tested is only relevant for him.
All of that said, unbound is also very specific. Lots of long stretches where spin up isn’t a factor
Great looking shop!
Great work ! Most interesting video I’ve seen from anyone in a while !
Thanks!
This video is not really about the two Olympic champions but about the craftsman that can build a carbon wheel set with Berd spokes in an 1h30! He has the tools and the skills. It will take time but shops will get there. This video should be shared with the shops near you.
Yes it is indeed about the wheel build!
Wheeltec organized a wheel building workshop with berd recently. They are spreading the info
@@jasperverkuijl what is wheeltec? Europe or USA?
Link?
@@colinresshi mate, did you check the description?? All info is there! Wheeltec is in Europe but they will ship world wide!
It really seems like these would be the ideal spokes for almost all wheels. With all the advantages, I can't believe that they are not even more known and used. I would really like to try these for gravel/ tracklocross riding, the dampening seems ideal.
Yep for gravel and Mtb is seems great.
It’s less aero so for road use not the best solution. Also less bups on road rides.
Besides that the cost would be a factor too
Give it another 3-5 years , as the cost needs to drop first.
Super video😮
Thanks
What an interesting video to learn, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Jasper... those are sick wheels! Thanks for great content. Where are your Cape-Epic videos!?
I'm working on it
Thx Jasper❤
Zeer interessant. Mooi vakwerk. Misschien keer setje wielen halen als ik aan nieuwe toe ben.
Because of Tom
That’s a spectacular wheel shop, nice
This is a wheely good video.
🙌🏻🙌🏻 🥁
I have had the Berd spokes for 2 years. it gives a comfrt to a ride yet stiff. Sound akward but it is as stiff as stainless spoke But much more comfort
It’s what Spinergy wheels have been doing for years.
I’ve used synergy wheels on the road. But it don’t think road is the right place for spokes like this..
@@jasperverkuijl Synergy or Spinergy?
@@tomghoreyeb9547yeah spinergy indeed
"Carbon is not always the best solution", totally agree!
so well done video!
Leuke video Jasper!
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Dylan Johnson needs to get on this!
He’s going to say it’s not aero 🤓🤪
John Tomac used a rear disc wheel that used these type of spokes in 1990.
It was string, but where it these spokes?
No not these spokes but the idea was the same. More flex and suspension. Only difference is that they were glued on a plastic disc.
Believe they were Kevlar strings
I just heard about dynema in a break test video for climbing belay loops, can’t deny how strong that stuff is.
Yep, pretty impressive 🙌🏻
Spinergy flexible spokes are better than Berd because they have a protective sheath.
Not sure if that makes them “better”… define good/better 😜
@@jasperverkuijl Better as in more durable, and they look better, I am not a fan of hairy string. My spinergy wheel failed after two years when the freewheel failed, wheel was always true. Great spokes.
@jasper what kind of handlebar on your epic video? looks kinda funky
It’s a marathon bar. Will show more in the videos on the race
I love the wheels and the idea for flex spokes but I would like to see it in action, as in seeing the turning of the wheel like a start of a race or the beggining of a hard sprint. Doesn't it flex as well in a tangential way loosing momentun for a while?
Nope. Yhe spokes are stretched think yhe end of flex during the wheel build process
Jasper, where can we find the Cape Epic videos or have you not published them yet? 🤔
Nope not published yet. Working on the edit. Plan was to get it all out in one go but didn’t want to wait any longer with this video
@@jasperverkuijl 👌🏼 Looking forward to it and see you in April 👍🏼
Yeah dude!!!!🙌🏻😎
i have these hubs as well :D Not using the spokes though . My custom wheels were made by HNDGSPKT in Limburg, very happy with these wheels
Those are string spokes?
@@jasperverkuijl Hey Jasper. No mine are tradional spokes. Sapim D-light j-bend. 32 spoked wheels for a trail bike
DO YOU THINK BERD SPOKES ARE THE FUTURE!???
Perhaps BERD style spokes will be the future, when the patent expires and the exorbitant pricing comes down.
For those that can afford it
@@santiagobenitesI agree it’s quite expensive. I don’t know how much of it would be from actual material cost and how much is development, marketing etc etc. No idea
They are pricey but they're not more expensive than other high end wheels. The Berd sparrow wheel set is ~$2200, the Rival Terra CL are $1750, the Bontrager Aeolus RSL 37V are $2800, the Zipp 101 XPLR are ~$1900. And that's only gravel wheels. Look at some other top end mtb wheels and you'll see similar pricing.
$8/spoke is about twice as much as steel, but they allow an alloy wheel build to get as light as carbon for a lot less cost than a carbon rim.
The only downsides are they're much more of a pain to build with, and they demand their own spoke length calculations. Pretty small price to pay comparatively for simultaneously stronger, lighter and more compliant wheels.
Edited to correct price
@@PoorWorksmanship According to the BERD website, each spoke is $12.
Have had those spokes on my road bike for over ten years , spinergy xaero
Spinergy are different. But indeed also flexible spokes 🤙🏻
Master at work. Thanks for the video.
You are very welcome
Is it really possible for spokes to increase radial compliance while decreasing lateral compliance? I don’t think so.
What about the test with the weight hitting the wheel, it’s clearly more compliant (the wheel with steel spokes breaks)
I haven’t done a lateral stiffness test so can’t back that up with any exact numbers but they felt really sturdy riding them on the Mtb
@@jasperverkuijl Sure, Dyneema spokes might result in a more robust wheel. If it requires more force to break a spoke it will require more force to break the wheel.
The other topic, related but not the same, is compliance. More compliance means more deformation per unit of force applied. The spokes are the only thing connecting the hub to the rim, so if the spokes are more compliant radially, the wheel will also be more compliant laterally. I don't see how it could be any different.
In practice, I suspect that while the radial compliance of these wheels might well be higher than those with steel spokes, the difference is probably negligible once you take into account the compliance of a mountain bike tire. So maybe the main advantages are in the weight savings and the strength. Speculating here on that last bit, but I'm pretty sure that lateral stiffness goes hand in hand with radial stiffness when it comes to the wheel.
@@user-uu1um1ql1bthe other factor you forget is the vibration dampening, that’s a big one.
About the compliance, I think Marc also explains the berd spoke won’t transfer any load back to the hub where a steel spoke will (when the rim would be compressed)
I also think it’s different with static vs dynamic load.
I don’t know exactly all answers, but I find it an interesting topic and I’ll discuss with Marc.
Maybe we can do a lateral stiffness test against another wheel with steel spokes and see the result.
@@jasperverkuijl Yes, definitely interesting, would love the see the results if you find the time and resources.
When can I see the Cape Epic video,'s Jasper?
Will be soon. Working on a huge video of the entire week. 👍🏻👍🏻
What's the final cost and weight?
It's better if we don't know the cost, will made you cry.
Very cool video and very well explained. I knew the spokes from the Syd & Macky (mountain bikers) channel (recommended BTW!)
Nice! I haven’t heard of them yet but will check it out
Nice wheel shop
Sure is!
let's go with the cape epic video's!
Working on it 🫡
Would love to try those carbon spokes !
Want to see a wheel with carbon spokes check my Winspace hyper review I did with Marc. 🤙🏻
is radial compliency the same concept used for tennis rackets? Could this make disk wheels stronger?
I think tennis rackets are flexing and therefore bounce the ball. It’s not really the same thing.
I don’t think it can be implemented in a disc wheel since those are solid
Dyneema ropes has been used for decades on competition sailboats, for more or less the exact same reason: Extremely strong and lightweight, close to static (i.e. non-elastic)
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from Kenya, can i test them?
Its the rider!!!
Great spokes . And you can carry an emergency spoke very easily with this brand
Haha yep, just in your jersey pocket or saddle bag if you want 🤓
@@jasperverkuijl so many ways to carry it You can use it like shoelaces 😂🤣😆
Hey Bro! Video for that Superior Team XF 29 Issue R - Ultralight XC Race Bike?? Give us a review. Is it any good?
Dude I love the bike!🙌🏻 really awesome
Fascinating
I might of missed it.. did they give a price of the build shown?
Sorry I never mentioned! I have to check price and weight!
"The marketing bla-bla" - so true! And the same for these Berd Spokes, knotted to the hub and glued to a "piece of spoke" - weird. I prefer Pi Rope over Berd Spokes!
Instead of by ear for adjusting spoke, they have violin tuners for cheap to really get exact tone sound for each spoke.
😂👌👌
These spokes look and sound great. My only issue is the price. Dyneema is a fairly inexpensive product, and all Berd's manufacturing involves is creating a hook loop and integrating a small metal part to fit with a spoke nipple. Obviously there are costs added on for R&D, but it still seems excessive.
I hear everyone say Dyneema is expansive. I dont know.
But the need spoke is quite a bit more “complicated” than a regular spike so I do see a big difference there..
@@jasperverkuijl Yeah, I was going to order some after seeing this video until I saw the price. It seemed cheap until I realised how many spokes were on a wheel 😅. Anyway, great video as usual Jasper, love the content 👍
Pretty brave putting your hand under that pneumatic press! @19:50 😅
It requires 2 separate bottoms to activate. 😅
good wheels are good
great video. thx
If i had that bike, i would have a gold medal. True story.
I hope berd makes a blade (aero) version of this spoke
That would be awesome
Aren't these spokes similar to what Spinergy have been using for years= PBO?
I have asked but no answer yet. I think it’s similar but different material
How are the experiences with regular hubs and nylon rubbing, longterm? I imagine the designed hubs have sharp-ish corners and with the spokes absorbing vibration/moving a little, the nylon will rub on the metal?
Berd and onyx make specific loop hubs for them. Other hubs have to be gently drilled to smooth out the holes.
@@ericbeech2652 Interesting, thanks.
The erase hubs in my wheelset are specially for berd spokes so are smooth.
Otherwise the holes need to be smoothened indeed
@@jasperverkuijl I'll check those out. Thanks!
can i ask what the benefit of those bars are they look like they only add weight
It gives more hand positioning options. Placing hands in the middle for an aero position.
They don’t add much weight
I was kinda hoping PI Rope would have shown up at the Olympics, maybe some competition to Berd would have driven down the price sooner.
Wielen en banden maken de fiets.
Stel je hebt 2000, en je besteed de helft aan een fiets en de andere helft aan wielen, dan heb je een prima fiets.
Awesome! I’d love to see more content from this shop.
I have! Check out my Winspace hyper review I did in Marc’s shop. Another wheel building video but about carbon road wheels with carbon spokes