Sony FX30 vs Sony A7IV - Which One Should You Buy
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- Today I discuss the idea of buying the newly released APS-C Sony FX30 vs the Sony A7IV.
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Do not understand, why you do not have over a million subscribers. Your content is the best and honest. Most reviewers became infomercials.
Thanks!! Maybe the algorithm will listen to you!!
Love your content… great work
I’m honestly amazed at how afraid people are of cameras that aren’t full frame. My favorite cameras to shoot on are the F55 and FS5 (both s35) with the F55 still having more latitude and better highlight recovery vs the FX9. So I’m very excited to upgrade my a7iii to the FX30, a full size HDMI port and the ability to burn LUTS into footage are my favorite features I’m looking forward to!
absolutely- my favourite cams to use for video so far have been the GH5’s - which are micro 4/3. full frame isn’t everything!!
It's that every youtuber use ff cameras and that's why people want them.
The most of the real cinema cameras in Hollywood are not even ff
I could >theoretically< see it being a minor concern for people who are already invested into full frame and don't want to "waste" their lenses on a camera that can't utilize their full capabilities, especially if wide-angle is more important than telephoto.
...that's all I got, honestly. S35 is a great, time-tested format and this thing is going to be an absolute beast for the price.
EDIT: oh, I suppose the FX3 still makes more sense if you're doing a lot of work in low-light environments. Events and such can be incredibly unforgiving and you can just crank the ISO on that thing without a care in the world. This isn't going to match that performance, though I'm sure it'll still do extremely well in low light since that seems to be a huge priority for Sony in general.
@@sethsez
Low light,low light
Or bokeh,bokeh
My first camera was a Panasonic and i don't see no difference in low light or bokeh beween m4/3 aps-c and FF
I don't film 24 hours the stars
What your gonna film that 5 percent more low light or bokeh is so important?
For vlogging i can anderstand a aps-c or a FF is better then m4/3 bucauese of wide view
Most of the time people don't know what they talking about.
Even cinema cameras with they making night docu. are shot with aps-c sensors
How many Hollywood cameras they use in big productions are shot with FF cameras?
It's all big company's selling tactics
They have many people there that company's pay big money to "let it shine"
Why all the FF cameras have aps-c in them you think?
Foto's are good with FF not film
People are avoiding s35mm well at least me because there are no fast zooms for apsc! There isnt any 24-70mm 2.8 equivalent to ff! If there was a 26-55mm f1. 8 in apsc things would change
Great comparison Mark. I am going to hold off on this one.
I love your videos! so helpful, thank so sm :)
Oh Mark! Thanks! Great video! Now I am deciding again! I wanted to buy the A7IV for both photos and videos, but having the A7RIV and the FX30 makes sense now. Oh what a difficult decision. I don't want to deal with overheating issues when shooting interviews! I don't know, I don't know! I love the 30-plus megapixels in full frame mode but am also attracted to an APS-C cinema camera. Do you have a video explaining "How video code works"? Thanks again!
Almost picked up the A7IV and was intending to use it in Crop mode the whole time. What stopped me was the rumors became persistent and of course became true. The timing could not have been better. I'm 100% all in on APSC now.
Onn youtube what should i go
Zv e10 a7c canon r7 zv1
Im considering e10 zv1 and canon r7 whoch should i go?
Often takes a video at home and just home light only…
@@howyag7914 If it's your first video camera and it's just for home use I'd say ZV-1 but I'm a biased user. I've not used any other brands. Do some research and watch the reviews for the other cameras you are looking at.
@Oh hi thank you can you suggest the audio?
People came out and keep talking
So im looking for dji mic (2people) and another camera use ecm b10 or b1m or rode mic pro plus how is it?
@Oh hi And
Zv-e10 sony 11.8 or 16.4 sigma
And zve10 sigma 1850 f2.8 will better? Right?
1 camera will i will take the camera and shoot a video so maybe i need a one zoom lense
@@howyag7914 Hi, I use Sony zv-e10 for over a half a year now and for me the favourite lens are the Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 DC DN or sth, it's zoomable and like this lens a little more than the classic sigma 16mm 1.4 cause I'm using like a 28-35mm for portraits and videos of people. Or you can also go with the kit lens but yk, they're kit lens... Hope this helps a little bit
Great Video, thank you for the information. Been all day going back and forth on upgrading to the A7 IV or FX30 from the A7C. Really hard to choose lol
it is tough. if I could only keep one camera I would keep the A7iv. however, the fx30 is probably better for straight up video
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis tough decision lol. I'm leaning more towards the A7 IV just because it's Full Frame
Holy crap Mark, that many views so far? And since when did you pass me in subs! You are killing it man. What a great video topic. I preordered as well but I know a lot of people would like to know which one to buy. I think I would choose the full frame A74 over the APSC but I’m still buying it haha
if I could only have one it’s the A7iv. but we’re camera channels - we HAVE to have both. it’s just the law.
I have a Sony A6400 and was thinking about upgrading to a A7C for some full frame video perks but i’m thinking about just keeping my A6400 and looking into the FX30 especially bc the I can use the same lens !
Great video, and fantastic image from your A7IV here. Most of it is great 4K and fine color grading though... I'm sure you'd had a great image with any other camera. That aside, it seems I'm gonna be saving some serious buck buying the FX30. It came as a total surprise, at the end of a saving up cycle of this quarter, I was saving for more than a year to get the FX-3. The main reason is video work and to be honest, I'm not a cinematographer so the FX-3 seemed like a stretch of current need and more as an investment for the future when I upgrade my skills. This investment would drain out the banking account, so the FX30 came at the right moment. It's still a great investment for the future but it won't break the bank, and I'll be getting the top handle.
The A7IV was an early option when I thought of upgrading the conferencing/live-streaming setup (2 A5100's, an A6400 and an A7III) but the A7III still takes fantastic stills, and I want to up my video game. Decision made 🙂
It sounds perfect you. Great timing!!
Nice to See that this Video goes viral 👍 congrats
Tough decision. I do mostly video work, occasionally photo. For me it comes down to full frame advantages vs. frame rate advantages. The fx30 is awesome for slomo shots (HD with 240 fps!), a higher dynamic range with the full frame sensor may be more important for outdoor and available light shooters, like documentary style. I have the a6600, i am very happy with its capabilities, but once you know, there's full frame, 10bit, 4k120 out there, you want it all! 😄
I upgraded from the A6400 to the A7iv earlier this year and I absolutely love it, but I have a bunch of APSC lenses that I have not used since selling my A6400. Seeing how great the FX30 is, I am so tempted to get it as a b-cam. That said, I think I will hold off until I see what the a7c mark ii will offer.
Onn youtube what should i go
Zv e10 a7c canon r7 zv1
Im considering e10 zv1 and canon r7 whoch should i go?
Often takes a video at home and just home light only…
@@howyag7914 if you’re completely new at this, the zv-1 may be the best choice. A lot of big RUclipsrs use it as their main camera and it’s the cheapest of the bunch. You can practice with it and when you get better and want to upgrade, you can still use it as a b-cam. Good luck to you!
@@omarafunitv thank you.. hmm
Its cook youtube at home
And i want to show different angles
So i planned to set gopro 11 (3 cams) and + camera 1 cam
But im considered
A7c 20g f1.8 (4k)
A7c sigma 2870 f2.8 (4k)
And with gopro 11 (2 cams fhd)
Or
Zv-e10 + Sigma 1850 f2.8
Zv-e10 + sigma 16 f1.4
And gopro 2 cams will be quiet enough for youtube 4k
Hmm… well i want to have fx30 or next month shows new zv compact crop sencor camera im waitingfor that…
I live in south korean and zv-e10 body is almost 460dollars secondhand
And a7c is almost 1120 dollars secondhand
Money is doesnt matter but it will not that bright at home so considering
You can also use the crop lenses on the A7 IV just fine, as it has fantastic crop mode.
@@howyag7914 I'd go with ZV-E10 because it has great options for lenses, as long as you're willing to pay. The ZV1 is good, but I don't think the built-in lens is ideal for indoor use, and the ZV-E10 will work better in set it and forget it situations, as it doesn't overheat at all in my experience.
I also have an A7iv and a ZVE10. Love t both!! Can’t wait though to see you test out the FX30. I will be waiting for your review to decide whether I buy or not (No pressure though)!
haha!!
I hope to watch zv-e10 4k30p and fx30 4k30p or 24p comparison. To see if sensor is improved or not. And be proud of my zv-e10 :) If they are not way different in that field.
Thanks for the summary! Do we know anything about drive modes for stills in the FX30? Is there any burst mode at all?
Love my a7iv, and I'll be picking up the FX30 to compliment the video side. I do a lot of dual shooting, so the FX30 will get rigged out as the main video camera, and that frees up the a7iv for more photos, with the occasional video b roll. Super pumped about this announcement. I've been saving up for a a7sIII, but will be preordering the FX30 instead.
I think I’ll be doing the same!!
Should get same iv for dual shooting. Now when you put a 50 on iv it’s telephoto on fx30. Now you won’t get same bokeh. Now you do this or buy new lenses with different character and focal length and color
I own them both and I am very happy with them both.
Hey Mark interested in your opinion. I have a A7c I was keen to get a A7iv for the better video specs. I would have kept the A 7 c .
Now I’m wondering if the FX 30 coupled with the A7c might actually be a better pairing?? I’d save $800 hard earned Ozzy dollars. I could afford the A7 I’ve but I’ve never been keen to waste money unnecessarily
So in your opinion is An A7c+Fx30=to or >than an A7c andA7iv??
Video is my main game but still want the ability for great photos as well. Not a professional just a content creator of flyfishing films and travel blogs
Love your work.
Hi, for versatile uses, with sony camera wich lens do you recommend? FE 28-70mm oss (f.3.5 5.6 SEL287O or aps- c
Sony E 16-55mm f 2.8G(SEL1655G) thanks
Great review as usual. A bit of an off topic question if I may. Do you mind sharing how you do an A/B camera setup like you're doing with the Sony A74 and ZV-e10? Black & white on the B Cam footage very nice touch. Been looking for an easy way to do this. Thanks.
it’s really basic. zv-e10 off to the left. I drag the A7iv file in and the Zv-e10 files in and line them up. nothing to it
Is there next generation for a7c this year or not ? If not, gonnna take this one first.
This was actually a super useful breakdown, I’m considering both of these cameras right now.
Thanks - that means a lot from a fellow camera comparer!! 🤣
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Onn youtube what should i go
Zv e10 a7c canon r7 zv1
Im considering a7c e10 zv1 and canon r7 whoch should i go?
Often takes a video at home and just home light only…
I use a Panasonic GH6. I get terrific quality out of it and it’s a Mirco 4/3 system. Sometimes, it’s nice since I get a closer image while doing the workouts on camera.
I love the Gh series. still use my GH5 all the time
That’s not really a selling point, you could just use a longer lens on other systems
Hey Mark great video, I wanted to ask your opinion if you think the crane m3 could handle the Zv-e10 with the viltrox 13mm and a video micro? Looking for an all around vlog/ RUclips setup. I saw you had the sigma 16mm with the Zv-e10 on the crane m3 in your review. Would appreciate a response! Keep up the good work.
You won’t get full range of motion, but it should be work
I am going to by the fx30, it looks so perfect to me😊
And i have a lot of Apsc lenses by the way 😅
Loving your videos. I'm currently a Sony A7C shooter and love it. I've been shooting stills and video shorts but thinking of shooting a documentary in a few years. Should I get an FX30, A74 or a used Sony A7S3 for $2500? I also have an amazing Sony apsc 16-55mm lens.
The fx30 I think would be a good choice
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks
Just a wishlist here: If you do get the FX30 in studio, would be great to see a SHARPNESS comparison of the FX30 vs ZV-E10... It'll probably take 2 months at least for me to get the camera here in Asia, so if the ZV-E10 isn't that far behind, I'd buy the ZV-E10 instead of the FX30. Excited for all your comparison videos if you get it :D
I got the zv e10 and I love it! The image is great. However the rolling shutter is terrible and you DO get overheating issues if you shoot in 4K! Even after adjusting the heating setting. Other then that I can film way over 1.5 hours and focus is great!
Both cameras are great but I just bought the A74 today over the fx30. I needed something that was going to be a beast on video but also needed to take high quality photos. The fx30 can do photos but apparently isn’t the greatest. The fx30 is pretty comparable to an fs3 though and can also be Netflix approved which is cool. Both great cameras but I’m so happy I went with the A74. Great video bro
It ain’t Netflix approved
@@1panomotion847 Indeed, everyone said when the FX30 would get Netflix approval shortly after release, it's been half a year and we're yet to see it. The FX3 has received approval, but I've been unable to find a clear reason why the FX30 still has not received it.
Good points
Well, from your recommendations i bought ZV-10e with sigma 16mm - it's truly great combo! Perhaps next upgrade will be FX30, but first i really need to learn how to use current setup and how to get best out from it :D Next upgrade will be another sigma lens, with minor zoom...
Nice!!
Thought you did a great overview and an even better summary. An APSC camera designed for folks who take video almost exclusively. Not a FF competitor. It’s kind of like a ZV E10 who has worked out and added a bit of muscle, but not intending to enter a powerlifters (FF) contest. Like the ZV E10 I think it will be quite popular !
Correct A7iv the best if u are a hybrid shooter
Sony gonna announce a new ZV camera soon.3 new camera end of this year,this was the second one
@Oh hi
Yes there are rumors that it gonna be or the R5 or Z
Bucauese the Z serie is the best sold camera (Z1 and ZV-E10) i think it's gonna be one of those.
Also in many country's the Z serie is not avaible and much in demand.
I think R5 and 9/3 gonna be announced in 2023
I don't know for sure I am writing what i read on internet
Let's hope that it gonna be a good camera and cheap
@@takoflame4948 and I’m willing to bet that when Mark makes a comparison for video even to some of the FF folks it will be hard to see a difference…at least on the small screen.
Good video ❤ Thank you. Well, maybe you can help us. Apart from recording our trips we also record events and videos for clients. We have an A7III and we need a new camera, we rarely take photos so this Fx30 would be good for us, but sometimes if we work at night (events) so we thought the Sony A7IV would be a better option, on the other hand for our trips, on youtube we would love to have a 4k at 120. We are hesitant for the reasons mentioned above and also prices, any advice should we go for the full frame line with the A7IV or do you recommend too much the Fx30?
I would go for the A7iv. Better dynamic range, better lowlight, viewfinder when you need it, slightly better stability. the 4K 60 and 1080 120 are really quite useable. the fx30 is great, but you really need good light. it gets noisy fast. The fx30 is fantastic and would be a great studio, documentary cam. but the A7iv is fantastic for everything really (except maybe 120)
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you!
Agreed! FX30 for videoshooters, A7IV for hybridshooters.
I really love your videos. You have the best personality ever. I’m super biased because I love my A7IV and the video is literally magical. It would be really hard for me to go to a smaller sensor, especially when I’ve literally made RUclips videos at night and places along side, other craters, and was able to get magical. Great video, while they were not at all. However, I still really like this camera. It reminds me of a Panasonic, GH6 but one that can auto focus very well. On the other hand, the GH6 does seem to have way better image stabilization. I think it’s a little bit of a bummer that Sony didn’t use that extra space from the sensor for better ibis. If they did, this would be the ultimate creator camera. I don’t consider this camera professional, although it has a massive amount of professional features. But this would be more than good enough for typical online content. I wouldn’t be using it for weddings as a main camera because the lighting is so often not perfect. So I guess in summary, if this was a RUclips creator camera, it would be fantastic. But if I had to do any real professional work, I would have to get the FX3. Or stick to my current camera, the A7iv. As far as overheating. I’m in Thailand end. I usually leave the memory card in battery doors open and I haven’t had it overheat since I started doing that.
memory card and battery door open - interesting!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yes, it was suggested to me and it's worked so well. It's super hot here most of the time. Also, it will NEVER overheat in the studio, no matter the setting if you use a dummy battery that is plugged into the outlet.
I’m going to be doing mostly landscape photography and videography. Think the a7iv is better suited ? Or what other camera for those specific uses
definitely the A7iv.
Thanks for your insight, Mark! I've seen FHD on the A7IV look really good in crop mode due to subsampling. It seems unlikely that the FX30 will subsample to FHD from the 6K sensor. I know there's no subsampling for the ZV-E10 to FHD and the FHD quality is the worse in its class.
Yes - the 1080 is not a strength on the zv-e10 for sure
Is the autofocus system in both of these cameras both the same or does the FX30 have more advanced autofocus technology (i.e., newer generation)? Thanks!
The autofocus operates the same.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you!
Love your stuff, once again! Hey, I just shot S log 3 for the first time… Do you recommend a corrective leeming LUT to start off with?
for sure. expose according to the LeemingLUT pdf and out on the LUT and you have a great starting point that’s a lot easier than doing it yourself
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis ah thanks!! Do you know which leeming lut though?
the first one - Sony LUTS that include the slog
So if one has a collection of 6 APSC lenses and does more video, would it make more sense to go full frame or to the FX30?
I would do the FX30 in that case. I really love the FX30 for video
I bought the zv-e10 about a year ago to be my main filmmaking camera, the rolling shutter is a real pain though so the fx30 is looking pretty tempting. Might have to sell the zv-e10
sometimes ya gotta upgrade
Love your videos. Where is that 11x14 full color portrait of you coming? I have this hole in my wall that needs to be filled. Since you started out with the camera sensors, what do you know about the technology in the aps-c sensor? Are they getting better to the point where they rival full frame sensors of the same or nearly the same size?
Being mostly a still photographer, I am aiming for the A7R5. Lined up a second job for my wife so I can afford that very expensive body.
I see in the comments people ditching their little a6000 series of bodies. I say, keep them. Nice to have a tiny camera for those times you don't want a bulky camera hanging on your shoulder. Either the a6400 and 6600 are great quick and dirty video cameras. If I was to go into heavy video work, that FX30 would be on my list. I always thought you get the camera body that suits your work. The FX30, with its cooling fan, will be a Godsend to those who hate it when the camera shuts down due to excessive heat.
I've read lots of reviews and opinions for many Sony cameras. That is why I am loving the A7R5, strictly for stills. It's not going to be the end all be all when it comes to video and that is where I would save $$$ for the FX30. Get the right camera for the job.
Thanks
I have a black magic 6k I use for pro work and for my RUclips channel but it would be so much easier to use a camera like this. Definitely would get and adapter and use my canon glass with this.
Hey, where would you place the Fuji XH2S in the mix with these 2 cameras?
the Fuji is has a few advantages in video to the FX30, but it’s more expensive and the autofocus won’t be quite as good. The A7iv is not as good of a video camera, but I prefer full frame for photos. However, for Fuji users it’s so great. it really depends on what system you settle on.
:50 looool literally answered the question in my head
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6:27 Can you just use clear image zoom to shoot in "aps-c mode"? Agreed it's not the same as fixing it into the same ratio as the 1:1 4k120, but you should be able to get the same effect using the digital zoom
That's a thought for sure - but it's still zooming digitally, so you won't be getting your full resolution. Still - that's a good idea if you want to switch back and for between 4k 120 and 24 without changing your field of view
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I thought it did some kind of "clear image zoom" for up to 1.5x, where it is downscaling from 7k to 4k during normal shooting, but slowly reduces the recorded pixels until its a 4k to 4k readout, then does actual digital zoom where you are undersampling.
I think that is how it works on my A7iv? But have not read the manual or pixel peeped enough to confirm my suspicion.
Anyways, thanks for the videos, love your comparisons and keep up the good work!
Sony is pretty vague on it - but you can use clear image zoom with the 12 megapixels cameras which aren’t downsampled so I’m assuming they are just cropping in and upscaling the footage in camera, but I honestly don’t know.
I have an alpha 7sIII and a ZV-E10, at this point I was thinking of buying a FX30 to take advantage of the apsc optics I already have and have 10bits in addition. Unfortunately it is not for sale in Italy yet, I'll wait. A greeting
Already pre-order my fx30 but I just gotta see that handsome man
Best type of person
Hey bro! 👋🏻 I use sony a7 r5 for photography and I have sony 135,34,50 gm series as lenses. I want to buy a video camera, which one would you buy? Fx30 or a7 4?
Get the A74 because you already have full frame glass and it's an amazing camera for video (photos too)
Hey Mark, I didn’t see any other way to contact you after you asked me to take down the video that I used the “cut” function on. I took it down, but there is an option within your settings to prevent people from cutting the vids.
Dig your stuff. I won’t use RUclips’s cut function on your stuff anymore.
Thanks, man I appreciate it.
FX30 for video only. A7IV for hybrid shooting which suits more users. I'd pick A7IV as my first camera and wait and see if there is any other new apsc offering.
It was a no brainer for me. I will be using 4k60 a lot so they are both aps-c cameras in my opinion and I don't need the photo options as my 7IIIs will cover the small amount of photo I do. Already ordered an FX30
dont forget the a7iv has still a better lowlight, dynamic range and quality in 4k60
Make video & photo comparison with fx30 vs canon r7 on human subjects light conditions or low light conditions
I have a cross-country trip coming in September 2023 (Florida-Moab Jeep trip) & I was thinking about renting the FX3 to film with… but maybe now I just need to own the FX30, especially considering the lens swapping between FX30 & my Sony ZVE10. 🤔
Definitely sounds like a compelling way to go
FX30 will fulfill a specific need for many. A7 IV is my favorite hybrid camera of all time, but it's useless for anything that involves 2+ hours of shooting, as it overheats when externally powered. A couple days ago, I had a concert I was playing and I was able to set up a camera in the sound booth to capture it. I would have loved to use the A7 IV, as it has a great crop mode that I was using, but I wisely used my A7C so I could power it with an external battery. If the FX30 was available to me, I would gladly use that instead, for sure.
thanks for the real-world examples!!
Get an atomos ninja v. Overheating solved. Record on monitor
@@Chris-ey7zy In my testing with external HDMI output, it doesn't solve overheating issues at all when using USB power.
Should I be worried about noise in low light and in 4K100/120fps with the FX30? Will the 1080p 100/120fps be any good in your opinion ?
the 4k 100/120 will look better tan the 1080 for sure. It will be ok in lowlight, but I wouldn't want to take it too far
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks Mark!
It's just a great camera,nothing wrong with aps-c.Deffinetly sell my 6600 and buy this one only for s-cinetone and Luts importing in the camera: awesome
Currently have an FS7 and I’m looking for a B-cam/Small cam since every job doesn’t need the beast lol. I’m not really much of a photographer, but I do get asked every once and a while, so I’m trying to decide if I want to leave that possibility open with the a7iv, or just go with the fx30 and get better video specs for less
Tough call. I mean you can take photos with the fx30. But the a7iv is no slouch in video either. If I had to pick only one - I’d keep the a7iv because it does so much for me
I guess when it comes to price range i think the best competitor on this is the a7c. Im also torn between the two. And aswell the fx3. Though im not a pro videographer/cinematographer i still want something that i can grow into. In my place fx3 is around 15,000 and fx30 body w/ xlr mic converted price is around 8,000-9,000, the a7c + 24-70mm is 7,000 while zve10 with kit lens is 3,100. So yeah it's really that hard to decide which one. I do have a6600 so i have a couple of lens to use for fx30 but still full frame camera offers more. So im gonna wait for this guy to compare the footages of fx30, fx3, a7c and zve10. As what ive watch from other youtubers zve10 have horrible rolling shutter same with a6600 compared to the fx30 which has better rolling shutter. But for 2x the price between the fx30 is it reasonable? For me that mostly shoots in 1080p it wont affect me from rolling shutter. But in case my channel grows up i wanted to be ready for that aswell. So i wanted a camera that will last long. That i can maximize my investment out of it. Fx30 is still not out from where i am now but if they give a best freebies included in pre orders then maybe i will get the fx30. But until then im hoping the vloggers who were able to get a hold on these cameras to atleast compare them.
Im good with my a7c
Used your affiliate link for pre-order of the FX30!
Thanks for thinking of me!! super appreciated.
Main reason for me to switch from A7C to Fx30 is the dual card slots. on the FX30.
What equipment are you currently using, camera, microphone, etc.? can you share?
I have it all listed in the description 👍👍
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thank you :)
The only thing that I've noticed that will keep me on my A7IV is the low noise, even in crop mode. As far as I know from Jerald video even at base iso800 fx30 has noise in shadows, A7IV is like a night and day in comparison with it.
A7iv is amazing with noise.
Mark, I have the Sony A7IV and my favorite lens (and only one other than my Sony 200-600mm G for wildlife) the 24mm f1.4 GM. I have just pre-ordered the Sony FX30 to use more for video and now the two camera setup for my talking heads studio work. I am contemplating adding another lens or two. I used to have a number of Sony APS-C cameras (A6400, A6600, ZV-1, ZV-E10) and sold all of them (even sold my Sony A7C) because although I liked the weight reduction, I didn't like the grip/size of the APS-C. The images were fine, I seemed to be able to have enough light, and believe that full frame cameras are probably more likely to be in my future. However, with the new FX30 I am looking for lenses to add. I have seen a bunch of videos about people using the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 (APS-C) and that is a possibility. I am thinking about the 35MM GM f1.4 and the Sigma 85mm f1.4 DGDN as my next full frame lens purchases though that would mostly be for the Sony A7IV. I wonder whether for smaller size as well as the use on both cameras, whether I would be better off with the Sony 35mm FE 1.8, Sony/Zeiss 55mm F1.8 and the Sony 85mm f1.8 (this would be cheaper!)???
I like the 35 1.8 a lot and the 85 1.8 because they are great values - the Zeiss 55 is great as well and those would work well on both. But that Sogma 85 is probably the best 85 you can buy. for the fx30 I would look at the sigma 16, 30, and 56 1.4’s. They are affordable and great, but you’d have to use them in apsc crop mode for the A7iv and that wouldn’t be ideal for photos.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Mark, thanks for the response! I like the Sigma APS-C lenses, they are always highly regarded, but as I don't think that I will necessarily buy another crop sensor, I think I would rather do something with full frame lenses that would work well for photography on the A7IV, and then maybe I could get the 11mm F1.8 Sony just for blogging (though I could always use the iPhone Pro for that - I don't really do a lot of that now anyway).
Video idea: catalyst prepare plugin for Adobe Premiere. There is literally zero videos of using it on the web and YT even though it is available on Sony site. Installed the unregistered versions so it has watermark, but at least you could show us how it works and if it degrade the quality like standalone catalyst browse or prepare.
I don’t use premiere - but I’ll look into it. if you watch my videos on catalyst, you’ll see I don’t get much (if any) degradation in quality. Just have to get your settings set
Good day im very new to the camera world but i want to get a camera to shoot musix video , i was going to buy tge blackmagic 4k then ppl say get the Sony A 6000 then this sony Fx30 they say it is the best value for money so my question is wich one should i make be my First camera i will mistly shoot music video
Great timing because the FX30 will be perfect for you. Shooting music videos - the fx30 will give you pro features and amazing quality, good stabilization, 4K slow motion, perfect autofocus and long battery life for a reasonable price
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you so much for That imformation
Just bought an A7c and a sigma 28-70mm after deciding that I couldn’t justify the cost of an FX3 and now this has been announced the day after the A7c arrived… completely confused now as to what to do. Had convinced myself that it would be nice to have some more photo features (despite my main focus being video) and a smaller body and to get full frame lenses was an investment because I would like to get an FX3 or successors down the line… Not sure if I should return/sell the A7c now and look at the FX30 but not sure if I want to start investing in APSC glass if I intend to have full frame cameras down the line… the struggle is real
I’m doing a vid on the A7C vs fx30 on Tuesday. The fx30 has higher end video features - but you may not need those. It can still take great video and it’s a way better photo camera. Plus it’s full frame - the good news is that you’ll get a great camera either way!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis oh great, I look forward to seeing the video. I do like the idea of having a more portable photo friendly option but if I had had the money I would have bought the FX3 so I wonder whether I’m just justifying my purchase to myself!
It would be great if your comparison includes an overall cost estimate when you take into account lenses - my understanding is that APSC lenses are cheaper than full frame ones so the £700 odd saving I’ve made by buying the A7C (I bought a new grey import from eBay for £1355) means I can buy an extra lens at the beginning… but going forward maybe I’d be better off with the FX30 if I can pick up more great lenses cheaper?
I was planning on slowly growing a full frame E mount lens collection starting with the sigma contemporary zooms… part of me is wondering whether getting the FX30 and a collection of primes would be better for me especially as my focus is filmmaking… but then that maybe means if I do want to get an FX3 or a future full frame camera my glass collection won’t be ideal? I know these cameras have an APSC setting but is that a compromise?
Thanks
I'm torn between the FX30 and the GH6. What should I get?
That’s tough. but if you need autofocus, you really have to use the Fx30. but I really really give GH cameras
I m a cinematographer
Which camera should I buy sony a7c or FX30 ???
fx30. I have a video coming out on that soon. but for cinematography- definitely fx30
Just got my A&IV a week ago. Had I known that this was coming I probably would have gone for the FX30 instead. I'm rebuilding my video gear from scratch after selling my FX3 and lenses about 9 months ago. I still might pick this up around the holidays. This is a conundrum; dare I say a "Camera Crisis"?
haha, We’ll I think the A7iv ticks the most boxes for me. but the fx30 will be a great compliment
Is it possible to make timelapse with the fx30?
yes - it has the same interval shooting function to make time lapses as the other Sony cameras
As an A7iv hybrid shooter, I find myself wanting another camera that I can dedicate to video. I record all my audio externally so having a Sony cinema camera with full timecode support for under $2k is beyond my wildest dreams. I've got the Sigma 14-24/2.8 which should be more than sufficient for any type of wide angle shots. I can pair that lens along with my 35/1.4 GM and create great content - if I can't do it with those tools, then I just suck. 🤣🤣
x2 on this. I see a lot of people comparing the a7IV vs the FX30. For me, the FX 30 compliments the a7iv. I do a lot of hyrbid work, so this will allow me to have my a7iv set up for photo and occasionally video if needed, and rig the fx30 out as a my main video solution. I've been saving up for the a7sIII but will be preordering the fx30 instead!
You're shooting this on the A7IV? Does it always have as much moire as I see on your shirt? (no disrespect at all, just a question about what I"m seeing)
Make sure you’re watching it in 4k. Sometimes it default to a lower resolution and it looks like moire. Looks ok in 4k over here. Haven’t experiment moire problems with the a7iv at full resolution as far as I know
You won't believe it! I tuned in to hear you say I have pre ordered the SonyFX30. I always look forward to this when Sony drops a new camera. Please Sony keep on making new cameras to support this channel. Lol.
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For about 5 seconds I thought about trading in my A7iv for the FX30. Crazy, right? Well, the FX30 can provide timecode for more professional projects. AND the FX30 can record 16-Bit RAW video externally. I think they may include BRAW export in the future, which would mean recording 12-bit raw video.
I am keeping my A7iv. But, I am seriously trying to find ways to pick up the FX30. I think it would make a great B-cam for those two shots in a narrative project. Which is what I mostly focus on. Either way you slice it, the FX30 is a huge win for Sony. I have no doubt that the FX30 will be a huge seller.
Additionally - even though it isn't a big issue with me - rolling shutter on the FX30 is a lot less than on the A7iv. But, as I've said in the past, with proper planning - and not rapidly whipping your camera left and right - you can avoid much of the problems caused by rolling shutter.
A7iv crop mode has better rolling shutter and lowlight performance, and can still take stills.
I hope Sony does include BRAW support, I have my doubts though.
@@frankfeng2701 Thanks, Frank. I'll have to check that out.
Technically it's not 16 bit RAW. It's marketing fluff by Sony. The ProRes RAW from Sony cams are 12 bit log, or 16 bit linear. "The DP Journey" has some content on this. ruclips.net/video/EmiEQq2MAeU/видео.html
Wish Sony worked with BM for BRAW. Doubt it'll ever happen though.
Id prefer the a7IV just because of the photography advantages tbf also the fx30 is £2100 here in the uk plus the fact im hearing you need the cf express cards to get the best frame rates and bitrates from the fx30 which puts the costs up considerably it would be nice to see a new a6600 successor (a7000)? Sony rumours also announced the a75 is coming soon so lets see what thats like and price great video by the way buddy thanks
yo dont really need cf express cards unless you really want to shoot 4k 60p/120p xavc-si All-I codec. Otherwise v-60 SD cards or v-90 cards are fine. I shoot xavc-s on the FX3, 4k 120p on v-60 cards no problem.
@@baqcasanke thanks for that info buddy il check it out
the last sentence summarize it all - if youre 90% video guy with lots of requirement related to video, get FX30. it's worth it. even for shooting vertical it has mounting point at the side for your tripod. XLR mount, big HDMI slots, LUTs - all are great addition if youre doing livestream.
but for hybrid photo and maybe 50% video, A7IV is the absolute beast. even so, I still think comparing APSC vs FF is a bit unfair. both are in its own league/circle, not against each other.
Great comment 👍
16 bit - According to DpReview: "As things stand, no external recorders can record 16-bit Raw, so it ends up as 12-bit again at the end of the process." it also state "We can be almost certain that the sensor is capturing video from a 12-bit readout. The process of combining 6K 12-bit data into 4K output will generate >12 bits worth of pixel level information, but probably not enough to require 16-bit encoding. Either way, I am still interested to buy it.
oh yeah for sure. it really comes out to be 12-bit. But that won’t make any real-world difference. I’m still interested too 🤣
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis in my humble modest option...Fx30 will be Sony's next big meal ticket. Not just because of its amazing specs but the price is great. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I am new to cameras and all that and I only use it for my RUclips videos. I have a zve 10 and I struggled to find a camera that felt like an upgrade without needed to sell my kidneys to buy it. FX30 feels perfect as an upgrade and 100% vfm. In a perfect world where my channel grows and I can afford it, I would buy the fx30 keep zve 10 as be cam and after some time buy the A7 IV. So if I want low light A7... If I eant slow mo FX30... Shoot a thumbnail A7... Need something compact zve 10....
that does sound perfect
how about Fx30 vs A7c? i am okay with Bokeh however i do take still ( but i don’t really use continue shoot mode)
that’s coming
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis can’t wait to see it . price wise , a7c is a true competitor than A74
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis i wonder how is it for still photography? can you do flash photography since it is electric shuttle only ?
Does the a7iv do 4K 120fps? No… I just pre-order the FX30 😮
Both the same price here atm. I am video guy, and currently have a6500 so I can use my Sigma lenes on Fx30. Fudge, I've never had full frame...so not sure which way 2 go.
that is tough. for the same price, I would go with the A7iv, but I like photos. You can also use the sigma lenses in video on the A7iv in apsc crop mode (I do it all the time) but it is best to use l full frame lenses that optimize the cameras iq. but there’s no doubt th fx30 is a more fully features camera and the lenses are going to be less expensive than the A7iv. so overall your costs will likely be lower and you already have the a6500 for photos.
Thank you, this is the exact comparison im struggling with. Currently shoot A7III (A cam), ZVE10, and ZV1 (B cam). I specifically got the ZVE10 so i could hold off on A7IV for another year, as i always try to snag cams at the $15-1700 range on used market, but im REALLY wanting to try those 10 bit colors. I do MOSTLY video, as i only use my cams for my channel primarily. But cant decide if im just a full frame snob? Something just keeps teling me to spend a few hundred more on the A7IV. I wont be able to keep my A7III either way, so i would like to have at least 1 full frame option. decisions.....
It’s tough. But for me I lean the A7IV because it has everything I need. I don’t NEED raw or 4k120 really in my current workflow and I love photos and it is full frame which gives me more options. But it’s more expensive and you lose a few video specs. Tough!!
"I have purposes for them, you don't know me" Laughed so hard at that statement. I feel you brother 😂
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Nah, I mainly do still photography. But still watch your videos always lol. My week seems off when I dont get to hear your voice lol. I also force my family to hear when I put on speaker mode
Everyone needs me on speaker. 🤣
FX30 is a far more powerful video camera than the A7iv. Main reason for that its controls and layout is made for video. Always surprising the focus on specs in these RUclips videos. In the field ergonomics are everything.
I mentioned the controls and layout.
Ok, you like RAW HDMI recording. Do you know that raw recording has 1.9x crop? So you will end up with micro four-thirds camera.
The problem at the moment here in the UK is you can get a grey import A74 for only £90 more than a FX30.
where please? That would sway my decision
wow
Love no mechanical shutter. Cheaper and less to go wrong. Hope the ZV E20 will have this sensor and no mech shutter. Be killer.
How about the fujifilm xh2s 😊it gives everything the fx30 gives and a no crop 120 fps 4 K plus so much more in photo such as 40 frames Burst etc…
oh that’s a great camera,and it beats the fx30 in lots of ways, but it’s less good in some ways as it’s more expensive and it doesn’t autofocus as well, doesn’t have gyro data or focus breathing compensation - so much to consider!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 😊 the autofocus is now on par with Sony but agreed that each one has its advantages and weakenesses. No such a thing as the perfect camera 😊👍
I need to test it out - but a lot of the reviews said the autofocus wasn’t perfect. but of course I won’t know u till I test - can’t rely on others 🤣🤣
Actually the blur in FF and APSC are the same, what changes is the field of view! I just learned that! 🙂
The depth of field is shallower on the same aperture and field of view on FF Vs apsc - which is why it’s blurrier. For example 24mm 1.4 on full frame will be blurrier than 16mm 1.4 on apsc. This is because of the larger aperture opening of the full frame lens over the full frame sensor. The light is the same, but the background separation (and blur) will be different even though the field of view would be roughly the same in my 24 f Vs 16 apsc example
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Actually if you put on a 35 1.4 on your A7IV on FF and switch it to APSC the blurriness will be the same. The subject however will be a lot closer. At same distance, same blur, different field of view. I know, it's mind blowing. I have to thank nVu Films for that insight.
@@nyambe yes - for sure, but you really need to compare the same field of view. So a 24 mm field of view 1.4 on full frame will have a blurrier background than a 16 (for equivalence) at 1.4. In the video I should have clarified and said you will have a blurrier background at the same aperture with equivalent field of view. I’ll be sure to make the correction next time 👍
what about a7c? please compare FX30 vs A7C
Onn youtube what should i go
Zv e10 a7c canon r7 zv1
Im considering a7c e10 zv1 and canon r7 whoch should i go?
Often takes a video at home and just home light only…
on the way
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis goooooooood
What about vs the a7siii?
well that is far more expensive. 🤣
is their crop on 100fps???
The crop on 120 frames per second is 1.6x so I imagine it's somewhat similar. The sensor readout speed makes that mandatory. A plus to a crop like that is less rolling shutter so if your subject is moving there will be less distortion. The main thing is that there's no line skipping or pixel binning so the image should be good.
“Just to prove how much better she is than her friends” haha - great video, thanks man.
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Im not sure if i should sell my a7 iv for the fx30
If I had to keep one - I'd keep the A7IV
I did exactly that but I have an a9 for photos ..
They complement each other - FX30 for video, A7iv for mostly stills or second angle if shooting just video. This FX30 will hold it's value for many years to come. Five years from now it will still sell for $1k. It's an unbelievable value.
Gosh darn it all, Mark, you're going to make me buy virtually everything Sony makes... ;-)
at least I’ll have company!!
In my opinion if you’re a hybrid single camera shooter then choose a74. If you already use an fx3/a7siii as your Main Camera, choose fx30.
With regards to video, for anything above 4k30 the a74 is basically a crop sensor camera anyway. And it doesn’t even give you the option for 4k120 (fx30 does with an extra crop). Fx30 has built in fans while some a74 camera struggle with overheating. I think if you’re mainly a videoshooter, the fx30 is a no-brainer as a Bcam over the a74
FX30 and ZvE10 comparison soon ?
of course!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I commented yesterday about that Sigma 85mm 1.4 lens turns out it is out but it’s not newly released I guess it’s been out for around a year now. Still see if you can get them to send it to you 🤔 it’s on B&H right now for 1.2k
I pre ordered it last night lol