Oohhhh...this is an old controller (model). I'm using it around +-2 years. Good build quality. Still strong. One of my main controllers. Thank you for review.
@@Psychotoxic86 Thanks, and glad it’s still going well for you! Any issues with stick drift? That’s really my only concern about this gamepad. I’m using it a lot at the moment, and really enjoying it.
Fantastic review! I have a good question for you I’ve been asking around and you would probably know best as you use the Vader 4 pro currently same as I do. I found this controller 3 weeks after falling in love with the Vader 4. I bought the Zues 2 to try as I loved the extra bumpers! I love everything about the Zues but I don’t like the thumb sticks why do they feel so different and not buttery smooth like the Vader 4? Almost like there’s a very slight delay to them and I can’t get used to it.
To the best of my knowledge, the difference you're feeling is the hall effect sticks. In my experience hall effect sticks are much smoother, and I believe it's due to the way they work, i.e. magnetic sensors reporting the position of the stick, versus physical components that actually measure the position of the stick in potentiometer thumbsticks. That said, a not small percentage of people prefer the way potentiometer sticks feel, and claim they're more accurate overall. I personally love the feeling of hall effect and TMR sticks, but even if I didn't I think I would advocate for them, just due to the stick drift concerns. The only real complaint I've ever had about hall effect sticks is that they tend to have less tension than potentiometer modules do....but the Vader 4 solved that, too, lol. Thanks for the support!
@ the only thing that conflicts that for me is I played with the bigbigwon rainbow 2 SE before the Vader 4 and to me the sticks felt almost identical and I’m pretty sure tht controller doesn’t have Hall effect sticks
@ I actually haven’t tried the Rainbow 2 SE (or Rainbow 2 Pro), but I believe you’re correct that it doesn’t have Hall effect sticks. It does have a higher bitrate like the Vader 4 though, so I wonder if that’s part of the reason it feels so similar to you. If you liked the Rainbow 2, did you consider trying the Blitz 2? That’s the only other gamepad that’s in the same category for me, as far as my favorite controllers.
I bought this controller thinking it would be everything I ever imagined and it was besides the sticks, I play with a Vader 4 pro and for some reason the sticks on that thing are just so much more smooth and responsive. Not sure why but if you find out how to fix it let me know
@@MrDoordude125 The Vader 4 sticks definitely feel smoother, but that’s the nature of hall effect sticks - magnetic sensor vs physical components actually touching the stick on potentiometer thumbsticks. The Zeus 2 does feel responsive to me though, as much as I prefer the way hall effect sticks feel. Some people are completely opposite and think potentiometer sticks feel “normal” and hall effect/TMR sticks feel “weird”, but I think it’s just a matter of getting used to either.
@@BenTefo They are very similar overall. I personally prefer the Vader 4, but I do think that's because I really only play FPS games. I'm actually working on a review of the Apex 4: Black Myth Wukong Edition right now - should be finished and published by this weekend.
@@OldManRob13 Is there a difference in vibration between Vader 4 pro and Apex 4? I love the vibration effects when playing story games. Especially on weapons
@@666neloangelo666 gotcha, that’s what it looked like to me, too…but yeah. Wasn’t sure if it was actually doing anything on my PC. It does complete eventually, and says “1.04gb free” or “620mb free”, etc. so…maybe? lol
@@Takemikezuchi dude, exactly. That’s the only like, REAL downside to me. I do love playing with it though…gonna use the shit out of it and see how long the sticks last.
I’m curious how well sticks will hold up. Look forward to the second part of this review
Oohhhh...this is an old controller (model). I'm using it around +-2 years. Good build quality. Still strong. One of my main controllers. Thank you for review.
@@Psychotoxic86 Thanks, and glad it’s still going well for you!
Any issues with stick drift? That’s really my only concern about this gamepad. I’m using it a lot at the moment, and really enjoying it.
Nice review. Keep it up!
@@magicearlz Thank you!
Fantastic review! I have a good question for you I’ve been asking around and you would probably know best as you use the Vader 4 pro currently same as I do. I found this controller 3 weeks after falling in love with the Vader 4. I bought the Zues 2 to try as I loved the extra bumpers! I love everything about the Zues but I don’t like the thumb sticks why do they feel so different and not buttery smooth like the Vader 4? Almost like there’s a very slight delay to them and I can’t get used to it.
To the best of my knowledge, the difference you're feeling is the hall effect sticks. In my experience hall effect sticks are much smoother, and I believe it's due to the way they work, i.e. magnetic sensors reporting the position of the stick, versus physical components that actually measure the position of the stick in potentiometer thumbsticks.
That said, a not small percentage of people prefer the way potentiometer sticks feel, and claim they're more accurate overall. I personally love the feeling of hall effect and TMR sticks, but even if I didn't I think I would advocate for them, just due to the stick drift concerns. The only real complaint I've ever had about hall effect sticks is that they tend to have less tension than potentiometer modules do....but the Vader 4 solved that, too, lol.
Thanks for the support!
@ the only thing that conflicts that for me is I played with the bigbigwon rainbow 2 SE before the Vader 4 and to me the sticks felt almost identical and I’m pretty sure tht controller doesn’t have Hall effect sticks
@ I actually haven’t tried the Rainbow 2 SE (or Rainbow 2 Pro), but I believe you’re correct that it doesn’t have Hall effect sticks. It does have a higher bitrate like the Vader 4 though, so I wonder if that’s part of the reason it feels so similar to you.
If you liked the Rainbow 2, did you consider trying the Blitz 2? That’s the only other gamepad that’s in the same category for me, as far as my favorite controllers.
I bought this controller thinking it would be everything I ever imagined and it was besides the sticks, I play with a Vader 4 pro and for some reason the sticks on that thing are just so much more smooth and responsive. Not sure why but if you find out how to fix it let me know
@@MrDoordude125 The Vader 4 sticks definitely feel smoother, but that’s the nature of hall effect sticks - magnetic sensor vs physical components actually touching the stick on potentiometer thumbsticks. The Zeus 2 does feel responsive to me though, as much as I prefer the way hall effect sticks feel. Some people are completely opposite and think potentiometer sticks feel “normal” and hall effect/TMR sticks feel “weird”, but I think it’s just a matter of getting used to either.
@ perfect reply thanks, I also think it has to do with the fact that Vader 4 has 12 bit
Hello, I'm stuck between vader 4 pro and apex 4. I don't know which one to buy. I only play story games. Can you help me?
@@BenTefo They are very similar overall. I personally prefer the Vader 4, but I do think that's because I really only play FPS games. I'm actually working on a review of the Apex 4: Black Myth Wukong Edition right now - should be finished and published by this weekend.
@@OldManRob13 Is there a difference in vibration between Vader 4 pro and Apex 4? I love the vibration effects when playing story games. Especially on weapons
Game acceleration looks like a RAM cleaner (probably only works when paired with android)
@@666neloangelo666 gotcha, that’s what it looked like to me, too…but yeah. Wasn’t sure if it was actually doing anything on my PC. It does complete eventually, and says “1.04gb free” or “620mb free”, etc. so…maybe? lol
Hello, I'm stuck between vader 4 pro and apex 4. I don't know which one to buy. I only play story games. Can you help me?
I have this controller, and now it keeps disconnecting. I have had it only for a few months.
Too bad it's not hall effect or tmr 🥲
apart from that, the controller has a lot of great things
@@Takemikezuchi dude, exactly. That’s the only like, REAL downside to me. I do love playing with it though…gonna use the shit out of it and see how long the sticks last.
@@OldManRob13 I'll follow up your report on this controller
If you like TMR, you should definitely try their kunpeng 20 and kunpeng 40
@ I definitely intend to, have kinda been waiting for the US launch.