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@@HallEffected I hate the face buttons, just prefer mechanical buttons so much more, but mine don’t feel substantially heavier than on my other membrane controllers. Or at least the ones I have on hand. Picked up a G7 SE and an Elite when I read your comment. They feel a bit stiffer than on the Elite, but about the same as on my G7 SE.

@@jayach5194 thanks so much for the feedback, the views, and the kind words! Really glad I can help some people out!

Apologies for the delayed response - unfortunately no, only grip vibration on the Cyclone 2.

@@doldionnee4578 honestly, options are pretty limited for Xbox at the moment. I’m hoping the GameSir G7 Pro will be the new standard. Hoping it gets announced/released this month.

@@monderkbaeli9411 yeah, I was very surprised, it explains why it feels so bad. I really don’t understand how/why the Pro and TE versions have different resolutions, either. It’s pretty disappointing.

@OldManRob13 that is why we need people to review the products

www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9NSXXH05PFRQ?ocid=pdpshare

@@samuelsepri6316 not sure, I’ve had no issues with it at all with the Cyclone 2. You do need to connect to it wired first, I think. But after that should connect wired or wireless.

@@CaptnYestrday started to comment on your comment on the first video, but I see you found the follow-up! Thanks for the support! Yeah, I saw results were posted on GamePadLA. I don’t really play wireless ever, but I know a lot of people do, so very unfortunate.

Its not bs if you want it to not drift you have to keep it 10+

@@TMRRWED Thank you!

wich tmr?

@stevensv4864 Tarantula

@@myteor5576 oh so im going to enjoy very good my cyclone 2 tmr when it arrive

@@ericcousinojr5222 man, as much as I love the physical feel of the V3, there’s no shot I would use this for CoD over the G7. Others may say differently, but the G7 absolutely feels more responsive/accurate to me. If you’ve waited this long, I would try to hold out for the G7 pro..will likely have wireless option at less than the cost of the wired V3.

@OldManRob13 fair , I kinda figured that . I appreciate the great reviews ! Keep it up !

@@ericcousinojr5222 Thank you!

Does the G7 have trigger stops ? If not then thats a no go. Trigger stops will help much better in cod than anything else

@ it does not. By default. But I add trigger stops to any controller I use for CoD lol.

@@stranger16luis71 I haven’t tried the X10. I went with the X20 just based on the extra features. Hope it works for you!

The triggers do have haptic feedback. I haven't tested much, as I don't typically use vibration/rumble etc. in the games I play, typically just turn it all off lol

@@RobbieKhan I keep seeing people talking about the PB Tails Defender and Crush…am I missing something. Like I know they look cool, but no rear buttons, trigger locks, etc, right? Or do they have some features that I’m somehow not seeing?

@@OldManRob13 It's the TMR stick performance for one, no filtering/processing being applied, just pure calibration and raw square input out of the box with the option to disable deadzone. But more the fact that it is a metal topped controller that's limited edition so if anything it's a great collector's item. which now also does 1000Hz wireless. I use mine when I fancy asymmetrical layout. The back buttons for me are only mapped for L1 and R1 as in some controllers depending on grip style, L1 and R1 are harder to reach like on the Tarantula Pro and others I have, so mapping back button 1 and 2 to also be L1 and R1 means my index fingers can always stay on the triggers. On the Defender it's a non0issue thanks to how PB Tails designed the shoulder buttons, the shape and position makes them super easy to click even with index on triggers.

@@sommervillem1069 I haven’t had that issue at all. Have you updated the dongle through the Connect app?

@@OldManRob13 how can you do that?

@@sommervillem1069 if you have it connected via dongle and open the GameSir Connect app, it should update, but there’s also an update button in the top right corner of the app.

@@OldManRob13 i've just realised that my stick detected as switch pro controller when im using the dongle. did that also happen with your controller?

@@sommervillem1069 It did not. Sounds like the controller is in Bluetooth mode, and though they don’t say so I assume the dongle can receive either 2.4 wireless or Bluetooth connection. Press and hold home button + X for about 2 seconds, and home light should flash 3 times, and that should change it back to pc/xinput mode.

@@n64slayer I’m still hoping the G7 Pro is even better. Did you get the same one I did? Black version, no charger?

Where did you purchase from? Do you mind sharing a link

@OldManRob13 Yeah, I got the black without a charger it was $49 from aliexpress. I wasn't gonna pay another $20 for the stand from the only other vendor.

@@n64slayer Thanks so much! How long did it take to arrive?

@Dr.Delirium I ordered ot on the 10th and got it on the 22nd

@@rinosurber7919 Hm, I hadn’t thought to check that. I just tested it, and it’s not paired that way. So apparently you can’t set turbo to rear buttons, regardless of what they’re assigned to.

I already understand that you can't put a turbo on the macro keys. With the Cyclon pro, however, it was the case that when a key was mapped to the macro key, the behavior of the reference key was passed on 1:1 to the macro button. If the turbo function was set to the reference key, the macro key also took over. I find this a very unpleasant behavior, and therefore the question of whether the Cyclon 2 still does it that way?

@@rinosurber7919 gotcha, I understood what you weee asking, and again they are not paired that way. I tested per your request, and the cyclone 2 does not do that. If A is paired to a a rear button and you set turbo on the A button, turbo only functions if you press the A button, does not function if you press the rear button.

@@OldManRob13 thanks a lot. Maybe it makes sense for me to order the new cyclon 2. The cyclon pro was unusable for me because this insane connection between mapped buttons.

@@Romchec I’ve been trying to decide whether to do a video about this, but basically due to prior comments on this video and a couple others, I reinstalled Launchbox and have been playing MvC2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 a bunch this week, testing all controllers. The Cyclone D-pad is solid, as are some other things about the controller that have made it literally my favorite gamepad for fighting games. Didn’t know this when I did my review, but will be testing all controllers moving forward.

@@OldManRob13 really cyclone 2 dpad is good for fight games? also rob i forgot ask, audio jack work with 500hz or 1000hz?

I have both and here is my personal opinion: if you want the controller mainly for fighting games go for X10 the d-pad is way better than the X20, if you dont really care about the d-pad and use joystick instead go for X20. both controllers are very good

@@MMH94MMH Hey man thanks for the suggestion. One thing, I mainly play online multiplayer games, mainly Rocket League. So, basically, the analogue sticks needs to be smooth and the ABXY buttons needs to be pressed quickly. So, with this info in hand, since you have both, which one is better in your opinion? (I don't care much about the dpad cause I don't play fighting games) I am asking cause some previous hall effect controllers had buttons that had to push down longer for it to register, therefore games where you had to press buttons quickly, it was difficult to do so. Also, someone had said that his x20 analogue sticks had bad snapbacks. Did you face such issues? Your input will be greatly appreciated.

@@stranger16luis71 The sticks on both are great, but if you don't really care about the D-pad, go for the X20-it's cheaper, has 4 macro buttons instead of 2, and lets you adjust the triggers and RGB lights. For your information, the joysticks on the X20 are detachable, but that doesn't mean they'll fall off. I haven't had any issues with them.

@@stranger16luis71 The sticks on both are great and the ABXY buttons on the X20 are slightly better than the X10, if you don't really care about the D-pad, go for the X20-it's cheaper, has 4 macro buttons instead of 2, and lets you adjust the triggers and RGB lights. For your information, the joysticks on the X20 are detachable, but that doesn't mean they'll fall off. I haven't had any issues with them

Thank you! Sadly, I don't own any of the 3 at the moment, so difficult to recommend one. A lot of people praise the Ultimate 2C. My favorite controller currently is still the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro, but I haven't tested any of the Direwolf line.

@@OldManRob13 man vader 4 pro has very bad latency report gamepadla site

@@tink4067 It’s very similar. Generally speaking GameSirs Hall Effect sticks are a little lighter tension than I like, and I was concerned the TMRs would be even lighter, but they aren’t.

@@OldManRob13 Thank you for the reply! I personally really enjoy light tension, so I was kinda hoping they’d be lighter than the HE sticks lol

@@tink4067 haha, gotcha. If so, it’s very little. They feel practically identical to me.