@@tink4067 It’s very similar. Generally speaking GameSirs Hall Effect sticks are a little lighter tension than I like, and I was concerned the TMRs would be even lighter, but they aren’t.
Really wish gamesir released a real pro controller, they're getting there but its not quite it. I feel like they're focusing way more on quantity. They have way to much of different controllers and some of them make the others not worth buying.
@@Teilzeit02 I feel exactly the same way. Instead of releasing a controller every month, I wish they would put that money into developing a complete package.
@@avtobezzabot my main complaint is only 2 rear buttons. It’s kinda pointless to have keyboard mapping available, but only 2 additional inputs on the controller.
Any predictions on when Gamesir G7 Pro will get released? I’m thinking mid-late November. Really hope they don’t screw it up with the G7 Pro. Just give us 4 back buttons and trigger stops for once..
Just got my hands on the controller and it's by far the best from gamesir. The joysticks are incredible, if agmesir could get as good of a calibration as machenike because these get awfully close to a perfect 0 deadzone.
@OldManRob13 Yeah, I got the black without a charger it was $49 from aliexpress. I wasn't gonna pay another $20 for the stand from the only other vendor.
Thank you for the video. This is a really cool upgrade of GameSir Cyclone in every way. For 40-50 bucks this controller is killing. Especially if you don't play fighting games. Waiting for GameSir G7 PRO.
@@TMRRWED this is actually the one I’m using most for fighting games right now. D-pad feels good, and being able to assign multiple buttons to 1 input is cool for Marvel vs Capcom.
jesas, Cyclone2 is straight up just a T4K/Kaleid/G7 with trigger stops but Ithe biggest take away is the new software, it's leaps ahead in customization
Gamesir needs to release an Xbox Pro collection. One with symmetrical sticks and the other offset. Add PS2-style sticks and more options. TMR is a plus. Include mouse click buttons and four back paddles. The RGB is cool, and also allow us to use it on Switch and PC as well as Xbox. Include a case like the Xbox Elite controller does. I don't care about the price; just make the controller great and offer cool colors or adjustable parts so we can customize it. Im gonna buy the tarantula pro for pc still
3.45 Agreed that's the only complaint I have about game sir controllers, 4 buttons would be so nice to have this does seem like an upgrade to the tarantula pro with the mechanical buttons which is nice
Thank you! Sadly, I don't own any of the 3 at the moment, so difficult to recommend one. A lot of people praise the Ultimate 2C. My favorite controller currently is still the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro, but I haven't tested any of the Direwolf line.
@@n64slayer I actually didn’t, because I didn’t have drift, even at 0 deadzone. I should have, just to show how to do it, but it slipped my mind. It works the same as most modern gamepads, hold menu+view for a few seconds and it enters calibration mode.
I have t4k which is pretty much the same shape. I enjoy it a lot but not fan of that shape it feels kinda bulky to me. Also dpad and shoulder buttons could be better. I'm probably gonna get tarntula at some point I'm sure it would fit me much better. Too bad about those membrane buttons but what can you do I guess. Mechanical buttons on t4k is one of the highlights imo. Can't have everything you want in one place huh? Gamesir are masters at teasing and delivering almost perfection but gotta fuck up 1 or 2 things so it's not quite perfect. I mean people have been begging for 4 rear buttons for so long yet we only get 2 every time. Wish gamesir made 360shape controller with hall/tmr sticks that would be killer. To me 360 controller feels best in hands. Nice vid btw. Looking forward for more reviews in the future.
what controller would you recommend? Blitz 2, tarantula or this one? Mechanical face buttons are a plus for me, but not a necessity, since out of the ones i have used (v3p, t4k and g7) they all have varied in feel a lot, with t4k being so light, i almost had no tactile feedback from a controller. I like the fact that Blitz 2 has mechanical only triggers (also their shape looks like its more comfortable for a mouse click, since its flat), but shape and looks of tarantula pro appeals to me a lot more.
@@Gundemonium Man, it’s so hard, because they all have advantages and disadvantages, and also they’re all so new to me still that I would have a difficult time ranking them at the moment. I prefer the feel of the Blitz, and having 4 extra useable inputs is a big plus, but I do think the GameSir TMRs are significantly better than the BigBig Won ones, based on my playtime with them. That said, even picking between the GameSirs is still hard for me at the moment. I much prefer the asymmetrical stick layout, but the Tarantula just feels so much better in hand. It’s got more weight to it, and the textures of the plastics are a lot better. It just feels like a more premium controller to me.
@@OldManRob13 how does blitz 2 feel quality-wise compared to tarantula? Also, im not sure if i should go with tmr or potentiometers with blitz. Man, its so hard xd. Also, jim pretty sure gamesir did fix their mechanical buttons in newer controllers, but i have to state that i did in fact develop a double click on my A button with T4 Kaleid (first one, non xbox variant).
@@n64slayer yeah, the Razer V3 does use micro switches though, for paddles and bumpers. Only one I’ve tested that uses for both. The Easy SMX X20 has micro switch bumpers, but not rear buttons.
The Kaleid is my favorite fps controller. I am also enjoying the Blitz 2. All I wanted was a Kaleid with trigger stops. I will get the cyclone 2 and be happy.
this controller wasn's in my radar , it seems like we gonna see more and more TMR stck controllers . and i am not sure , but from the reviews were they actually play with the controller , the tmr seems like a game changer in the controllers world .
Do you know anything about this controllers global release date? it looks like it ticks all my boxes for what I want and im a bit leery about buying off of aliexpress. Have you tried it on a switch as well? my pro controllers starting to drift a bit.
Can you compare Gamesir dpad with flydigi's? I'm choosing between Cyclone 2 and Vader 4 Pro, and the only thing I'm still unsure about about Cyclone is its dpad. Absolutely everything else in my scenarios are better on gamesir.
@@Romchec I’ve been trying to decide whether to do a video about this, but basically due to prior comments on this video and a couple others, I reinstalled Launchbox and have been playing MvC2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 a bunch this week, testing all controllers. The Cyclone D-pad is solid, as are some other things about the controller that have made it literally my favorite gamepad for fighting games. Didn’t know this when I did my review, but will be testing all controllers moving forward.
hey rob nice review, u know im waiting for this but gamesir doesnt say anything yet but heres aliexpress link, how do i know if trusful i can give the link in private
@@stevensv4864 I’m sorry, I can’t tell you if a specific link is trustworthy on AliExpress. It feels like a crapshoot to me every time I purchase on there, so I avoid it when I can. I can tell you the seller I bought from is Giraffe Digital Store, and my item showed up functional, but the box was in pretty rough shape, I kinda think it had been opened before, and it did not include the charging stand…wish GameSir would just announce a release date so you’d know if it’s worth the risk or not to avoid the wait.
Your stick analyzer result is higher than the tarantula pro which for me never goes above 1000 points for both program and analogue which indicates Gamesir is still applying filtering to even raw mode - Looks like the Cyclone 2 has less filtering which is good to see but still not a touch on on the over 2100 points of the same TMR sticks on the PB Tails Defender!
@@RobbieKhan I keep seeing people talking about the PB Tails Defender and Crush…am I missing something. Like I know they look cool, but no rear buttons, trigger locks, etc, right? Or do they have some features that I’m somehow not seeing?
@@OldManRob13 It's the TMR stick performance for one, no filtering/processing being applied, just pure calibration and raw square input out of the box with the option to disable deadzone. But more the fact that it is a metal topped controller that's limited edition so if anything it's a great collector's item. which now also does 1000Hz wireless. I use mine when I fancy asymmetrical layout. The back buttons for me are only mapped for L1 and R1 as in some controllers depending on grip style, L1 and R1 are harder to reach like on the Tarantula Pro and others I have, so mapping back button 1 and 2 to also be L1 and R1 means my index fingers can always stay on the triggers. On the Defender it's a non0issue thanks to how PB Tails designed the shoulder buttons, the shape and position makes them super easy to click even with index on triggers.
@@Ekhceed Sorry, not sure. I forgot to point it out in the video, but top right corner of the app are the gyro settings, which currently say “coming soon”.
Really like your videos, mate. For future reviews, I'd like to suggest testing if every gamepad allows for keyboard mappings (both wired and wireless) and analog triggers + gyro. These are features you have if you buy a regular dualshock, and are very essential for a good PC experience. Nonetheless, great video, man. Your tastes in a gamepad mostly align to mine, and your analysis are well made. My new source of gamepad reviews.
@@arthurcuesta6041 thank you so much, I appreciate it! I am trying to expand and add things as people suggest them, so thank you for the feedback. A lot of people ask about gyro, and I need to figure out a good way to test it. I don’t play any games using gyro, but want to pick one up specifically for testing.
@@OldManRob13 I suggest testing with Breath of the Wild on CEMU (native gyro) and an FPS while having the gyros set as mouse. It's a bit of work but I haven't found a decent reviewer that does it. I suggested these two because the controller being able to have gyro unmapped, also called pass-through or native, as well as the option to map it to mouse or analog stick inputs is vital for how useful it is. Some controllers only offer the option to have gyro as mouse, so they won't work for emulation. Others only map them to sticks, making aiming terrible.
Can you check the following for me? If you map A to a back button. And sets the turbo to A. Does the macro key also have A with Turbo? Or is it treated separately? In the T4 Cyclon, this was still coupled. Thanks.
@@rinosurber7919 Hm, I hadn’t thought to check that. I just tested it, and it’s not paired that way. So apparently you can’t set turbo to rear buttons, regardless of what they’re assigned to.
I already understand that you can't put a turbo on the macro keys. With the Cyclon pro, however, it was the case that when a key was mapped to the macro key, the behavior of the reference key was passed on 1:1 to the macro button. If the turbo function was set to the reference key, the macro key also took over. I find this a very unpleasant behavior, and therefore the question of whether the Cyclon 2 still does it that way?
@@rinosurber7919 gotcha, I understood what you weee asking, and again they are not paired that way. I tested per your request, and the cyclone 2 does not do that. If A is paired to a a rear button and you set turbo on the A button, turbo only functions if you press the A button, does not function if you press the rear button.
@@OldManRob13 thanks a lot. Maybe it makes sense for me to order the new cyclon 2. The cyclon pro was unusable for me because this insane connection between mapped buttons.
@@strion5990 apologies, I actually never picked up the original cyclone or cyclone pro, so I’m not sure. It’s a bit heavier tension than the G7 HE and SE, but I’ve always thought those were super light.
@@OldManRob13 i've tried T4 Cyclone Pro triggers and it's really light and thus aren't to my liking since i prefer heavy tension triggers. However i've heard from other people that other gamepad like G7 SE Triggers etc are similar to the Cyclone Pro (light). Thanks for confirming that cyclone 2 is abit heavier 👍, might give it a shot
I really liked the Kaleid but it had one serious flaw: the triggers. They were so uncomfortable and unresponsive that my finger got tired after 10mins of FPS gaming. Not to mention how slow my fire rate became. If the Cyclone has similar triggers then it will not be suitable for FPS gaming either.
@@D1S0- I am not sure exactly, but I think it's due to several factors. The triggers are narrower than my other controllers. The need to be press much further before they go all the way down. The spring release feels somehow slow or heavy. The controller is on the smaller side so the trigger hits a part of my finger that is harder to press quickly with. And the trigger input registers slowly. I tried shortening the input response range to make it register faster, and that helped a little but not enough to prevent cramps. In addition to the Gamesir Kaleid I have tried several Xbox controllers, the Victrix Gambit, Scuf Envision Pro, Razer Wolverine v3, and the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro. Only the Wolverine and Kaleid gave me cramps, and they are both smaller than average, so again it might be the form factor. The best triggers I have tried were on the Victrix Gambit, and they also happened to be the widest. But the Gambit build quality is poor and it kept breaking, so I am now using the Vader 4 Pro.
hey bro, my gamesir cyclone 2 just came and i have problem regarding the dongle. if i want to use my stick in dongle mode, it doesnt detect anything, and it will only work when i turned on "steam input controller", which is fine when i played my steam games, but this mean i cant play my non-steam game cause it doesn have the steam controller input. anyone have solution??
@@sommervillem1069 if you have it connected via dongle and open the GameSir Connect app, it should update, but there’s also an update button in the top right corner of the app.
@@sommervillem1069 It did not. Sounds like the controller is in Bluetooth mode, and though they don’t say so I assume the dongle can receive either 2.4 wireless or Bluetooth connection. Press and hold home button + X for about 2 seconds, and home light should flash 3 times, and that should change it back to pc/xinput mode.
@@samuelsepri6316 not sure, I’ve had no issues with it at all with the Cyclone 2. You do need to connect to it wired first, I think. But after that should connect wired or wireless.
Or the Kaleid line is in a branding situation for Xbox exclusively which caused earlier models to be discontinued. The T4 cyclone already existed and had a planned update so they added some RGB because everyone was sold on the pdp prismatic controller.
@@blorbb5398 it’s supposed to, but currently the Connect App says “coming soon” in the motion section. You can see it in the video, but I should have remembered to point it out, my bad.
Great Review! How is the thumbstick tension compared to the Hall effect Kaleid you compared it to in the video?
@@tink4067 It’s very similar. Generally speaking GameSirs Hall Effect sticks are a little lighter tension than I like, and I was concerned the TMRs would be even lighter, but they aren’t.
@@OldManRob13 Thank you for the reply! I personally really enjoy light tension, so I was kinda hoping they’d be lighter than the HE sticks lol
@@tink4067 haha, gotcha. If so, it’s very little. They feel practically identical to me.
Really wish gamesir released a real pro controller, they're getting there but its not quite it. I feel like they're focusing way more on quantity. They have way to much of different controllers and some of them make the others not worth buying.
@@Teilzeit02 I feel exactly the same way. Instead of releasing a controller every month, I wish they would put that money into developing a complete package.
One , question, what's wrong with cyclone 2 ?
@@avtobezzabot my main complaint is only 2 rear buttons. It’s kinda pointless to have keyboard mapping available, but only 2 additional inputs on the controller.
G7 Pro is coming
@@abrarwiryawanwhen? I heard that for months
Any predictions on when Gamesir G7 Pro will get released? I’m thinking mid-late November. Really hope they don’t screw it up with the G7 Pro. Just give us 4 back buttons and trigger stops for once..
@@joshuasavoy7443 I’m betting we get trigger stops, TMR sticks..and the same 2 rear buttons, sadly.
Just got my hands on the controller and it's by far the best from gamesir. The joysticks are incredible, if agmesir could get as good of a calibration as machenike because these get awfully close to a perfect 0 deadzone.
@@n64slayer I’m still hoping the G7 Pro is even better. Did you get the same one I did? Black version, no charger?
Where did you purchase from? Do you mind sharing a link
@OldManRob13 Yeah, I got the black without a charger it was $49 from aliexpress. I wasn't gonna pay another $20 for the stand from the only other vendor.
@@n64slayer Thanks so much! How long did it take to arrive?
@Dr.Delirium I ordered ot on the 10th and got it on the 22nd
Really nice controller, but still missing a few features. I don’t understand why companies don’t offer a few different models with different features.
@@BouncingBallGames Yeah, GameSir in particular is notorious for it man. I don’t get it.
Thank you for the video. This is a really cool upgrade of GameSir Cyclone in every way. For 40-50 bucks this controller is killing. Especially if you don't play fighting games. Waiting for GameSir G7 PRO.
@@Psychotoxic86 Me too! I feel like it’s been forever since they started trading the G7 Pro, ready to get my hands on it at this point!
Also waiting on g7 pro, this looks really nice tho
@@WhoButBilly Same, been looking forward to the G7 Pro.
What best controller for fighting game?
@@TMRRWED this is actually the one I’m using most for fighting games right now. D-pad feels good, and being able to assign multiple buttons to 1 input is cool for Marvel vs Capcom.
jesas, Cyclone2 is straight up just a T4K/Kaleid/G7 with trigger stops
but Ithe biggest take away is the new software, it's leaps ahead in customization
Hi! Thanks for your video. Do we have trigger vibration on this controller?
Apologies for the delayed response - unfortunately no, only grip vibration on the Cyclone 2.
Gamesir needs to release an Xbox Pro collection. One with symmetrical sticks and the other offset. Add PS2-style sticks and more options. TMR is a plus. Include mouse click buttons and four back paddles. The RGB is cool, and also allow us to use it on Switch and PC as well as Xbox. Include a case like the Xbox Elite controller does. I don't care about the price; just make the controller great and offer cool colors or adjustable parts so we can customize it. Im gonna buy the tarantula pro for pc still
good video. does it have dualshock 4 mode like tarantula? also for future videos, do please some sound test just to hear how buttons feel. cheers
@@BEARM4N thank you!
I will try to do that moving forward. It does have Dinput mode, as well as Xinput and Bluetooth.
3.45 Agreed that's the only complaint I have about game sir controllers, 4 buttons would be so nice to have this does seem like an upgrade to the tarantula pro with the mechanical buttons which is nice
@@Frizzyy Yeah, I keep thinking they’ll do 4 buttons eventually, but not gonna hold my breath at this point.
Hey man, great video. Would you recommend the first Cyclone Pro? Or should i get a Flydigi Direwolf 2 or a 8BitDo ultimate 2C?
Thank you!
Sadly, I don't own any of the 3 at the moment, so difficult to recommend one. A lot of people praise the Ultimate 2C. My favorite controller currently is still the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro, but I haven't tested any of the Direwolf line.
@@OldManRob13 man vader 4 pro has very bad latency report gamepadla site
The stick drift was my biggest concern. Did you calibrate the joysticks at all?
@@n64slayer I actually didn’t, because I didn’t have drift, even at 0 deadzone. I should have, just to show how to do it, but it slipped my mind. It works the same as most modern gamepads, hold menu+view for a few seconds and it enters calibration mode.
I have t4k which is pretty much the same shape. I enjoy it a lot but not fan of that shape it feels kinda bulky to me. Also dpad and shoulder buttons could be better. I'm probably gonna get tarntula at some point I'm sure it would fit me much better. Too bad about those membrane buttons but what can you do I guess. Mechanical buttons on t4k is one of the highlights imo. Can't have everything you want in one place huh? Gamesir are masters at teasing and delivering almost perfection but gotta fuck up 1 or 2 things so it's not quite perfect. I mean people have been begging for 4 rear buttons for so long yet we only get 2 every time. Wish gamesir made 360shape controller with hall/tmr sticks that would be killer. To me 360 controller feels best in hands.
Nice vid btw. Looking forward for more reviews in the future.
what controller would you recommend? Blitz 2, tarantula or this one? Mechanical face buttons are a plus for me, but not a necessity, since out of the ones i have used (v3p, t4k and g7) they all have varied in feel a lot, with t4k being so light, i almost had no tactile feedback from a controller. I like the fact that Blitz 2 has mechanical only triggers (also their shape looks like its more comfortable for a mouse click, since its flat), but shape and looks of tarantula pro appeals to me a lot more.
@@Gundemonium Man, it’s so hard, because they all have advantages and disadvantages, and also they’re all so new to me still that I would have a difficult time ranking them at the moment. I prefer the feel of the Blitz, and having 4 extra useable inputs is a big plus, but I do think the GameSir TMRs are significantly better than the BigBig Won ones, based on my playtime with them.
That said, even picking between the GameSirs is still hard for me at the moment. I much prefer the asymmetrical stick layout, but the Tarantula just feels so much better in hand. It’s got more weight to it, and the textures of the plastics are a lot better. It just feels like a more premium controller to me.
@@OldManRob13 how does blitz 2 feel quality-wise compared to tarantula? Also, im not sure if i should go with tmr or potentiometers with blitz. Man, its so hard xd. Also, jim pretty sure gamesir did fix their mechanical buttons in newer controllers, but i have to state that i did in fact develop a double click on my A button with T4 Kaleid (first one, non xbox variant).
@@Gundemoniumif u dont care drift go alps
Bro, if they had mechanical shoulder and rear buttons that would have been it, all I have wanted in a controller forever.
@@SlinkyRock yeah, not a lot of options with those specifications. The Razer Wolverine V3 has mechanical everything, but also some downsides.
BigBig Won Blitz 2, and they all technically use mechanical switches, just not micro switches.
@@n64slayer yeah, the Razer V3 does use micro switches though, for paddles and bumpers. Only one I’ve tested that uses for both. The Easy SMX X20 has micro switch bumpers, but not rear buttons.
The Kaleid is my favorite fps controller. I am also enjoying the Blitz 2. All I wanted was a Kaleid with trigger stops. I will get the cyclone 2 and be happy.
this controller wasn's in my radar , it seems like we gonna see more and more TMR stck controllers . and i am not sure , but from the reviews were they actually play with the controller , the tmr seems like a game changer in the controllers world .
Holding off until the g7 pro. Hopefully it will have 4 back buttons. If not, I'll keep waiting.
Do you know anything about this controllers global release date? it looks like it ticks all my boxes for what I want and im a bit leery about buying off of aliexpress. Have you tried it on a switch as well? my pro controllers starting to drift a bit.
cyclone 2 and vader 3 pro, which one do you think is best?
Compared to KK3 Max, which one better from your opinion?
Hows the battery life on this controller?
Can you compare Gamesir dpad with flydigi's? I'm choosing between Cyclone 2 and Vader 4 Pro, and the only thing I'm still unsure about about Cyclone is its dpad. Absolutely everything else in my scenarios are better on gamesir.
@@Romchec I’ve been trying to decide whether to do a video about this, but basically due to prior comments on this video and a couple others, I reinstalled Launchbox and have been playing MvC2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 a bunch this week, testing all controllers. The Cyclone D-pad is solid, as are some other things about the controller that have made it literally my favorite gamepad for fighting games. Didn’t know this when I did my review, but will be testing all controllers moving forward.
@@OldManRob13 really cyclone 2 dpad is good for fight games?
also rob i forgot ask, audio jack work with 500hz or 1000hz?
hey rob nice review, u know im waiting for this but gamesir doesnt say anything yet but heres aliexpress link, how do i know if trusful i can give the link in private
@@stevensv4864 I’m sorry, I can’t tell you if a specific link is trustworthy on AliExpress. It feels like a crapshoot to me every time I purchase on there, so I avoid it when I can.
I can tell you the seller I bought from is Giraffe Digital Store, and my item showed up functional, but the box was in pretty rough shape, I kinda think it had been opened before, and it did not include the charging stand…wish GameSir would just announce a release date so you’d know if it’s worth the risk or not to avoid the wait.
Your stick analyzer result is higher than the tarantula pro which for me never goes above 1000 points for both program and analogue which indicates Gamesir is still applying filtering to even raw mode - Looks like the Cyclone 2 has less filtering which is good to see but still not a touch on on the over 2100 points of the same TMR sticks on the PB Tails Defender!
@@RobbieKhan I keep seeing people talking about the PB Tails Defender and Crush…am I missing something. Like I know they look cool, but no rear buttons, trigger locks, etc, right? Or do they have some features that I’m somehow not seeing?
@@OldManRob13 It's the TMR stick performance for one, no filtering/processing being applied, just pure calibration and raw square input out of the box with the option to disable deadzone. But more the fact that it is a metal topped controller that's limited edition so if anything it's a great collector's item. which now also does 1000Hz wireless. I use mine when I fancy asymmetrical layout.
The back buttons for me are only mapped for L1 and R1 as in some controllers depending on grip style, L1 and R1 are harder to reach like on the Tarantula Pro and others I have, so mapping back button 1 and 2 to also be L1 and R1 means my index fingers can always stay on the triggers. On the Defender it's a non0issue thanks to how PB Tails designed the shoulder buttons, the shape and position makes them super easy to click even with index on triggers.
Whats the gyro polling rate for this controller ? and is it as stable as dualsense's gyro?
@@Ekhceed Sorry, not sure. I forgot to point it out in the video, but top right corner of the app are the gyro settings, which currently say “coming soon”.
Really like your videos, mate. For future reviews, I'd like to suggest testing if every gamepad allows for keyboard mappings (both wired and wireless) and analog triggers + gyro. These are features you have if you buy a regular dualshock, and are very essential for a good PC experience. Nonetheless, great video, man. Your tastes in a gamepad mostly align to mine, and your analysis are well made. My new source of gamepad reviews.
@@arthurcuesta6041 thank you so much, I appreciate it!
I am trying to expand and add things as people suggest them, so thank you for the feedback. A lot of people ask about gyro, and I need to figure out a good way to test it. I don’t play any games using gyro, but want to pick one up specifically for testing.
@@OldManRob13 I suggest testing with Breath of the Wild on CEMU (native gyro) and an FPS while having the gyros set as mouse. It's a bit of work but I haven't found a decent reviewer that does it. I suggested these two because the controller being able to have gyro unmapped, also called pass-through or native, as well as the option to map it to mouse or analog stick inputs is vital for how useful it is.
Some controllers only offer the option to have gyro as mouse, so they won't work for emulation. Others only map them to sticks, making aiming terrible.
Can you check the following for me? If you map A to a back button. And sets the turbo to A. Does the macro key also have A with Turbo? Or is it treated separately? In the T4 Cyclon, this was still coupled. Thanks.
@@rinosurber7919 Hm, I hadn’t thought to check that. I just tested it, and it’s not paired that way. So apparently you can’t set turbo to rear buttons, regardless of what they’re assigned to.
I already understand that you can't put a turbo on the macro keys. With the Cyclon pro, however, it was the case that when a key was mapped to the macro key, the behavior of the reference key was passed on 1:1 to the macro button. If the turbo function was set to the reference key, the macro key also took over. I find this a very unpleasant behavior, and therefore the question of whether the Cyclon 2 still does it that way?
@@rinosurber7919 gotcha, I understood what you weee asking, and again they are not paired that way. I tested per your request, and the cyclone 2 does not do that. If A is paired to a a rear button and you set turbo on the A button, turbo only functions if you press the A button, does not function if you press the rear button.
@@OldManRob13 thanks a lot. Maybe it makes sense for me to order the new cyclon 2. The cyclon pro was unusable for me because this insane connection between mapped buttons.
How's the trigger tension? Is it the same (as light) as the T4 Cyclone Pro?
@@strion5990 apologies, I actually never picked up the original cyclone or cyclone pro, so I’m not sure. It’s a bit heavier tension than the G7 HE and SE, but I’ve always thought those were super light.
@@OldManRob13 i've tried T4 Cyclone Pro triggers and it's really light and thus aren't to my liking since i prefer heavy tension triggers. However i've heard from other people that other gamepad like G7 SE Triggers etc are similar to the Cyclone Pro (light). Thanks for confirming that cyclone 2 is abit heavier 👍, might give it a shot
I really liked the Kaleid but it had one serious flaw: the triggers. They were so uncomfortable and unresponsive that my finger got tired after 10mins of FPS gaming. Not to mention how slow my fire rate became.
If the Cyclone has similar triggers then it will not be suitable for FPS gaming either.
Its a very similar design, but the Cyclone 2 has mechanical trigger locks, so that issue is negated for FPS games.
What caused your hands to become fatigued? Can you go into detail?
@@D1S0- I am not sure exactly, but I think it's due to several factors.
The triggers are narrower than my other controllers. The need to be press much further before they go all the way down. The spring release feels somehow slow or heavy. The controller is on the smaller side so the trigger hits a part of my finger that is harder to press quickly with. And the trigger input registers slowly.
I tried shortening the input response range to make it register faster, and that helped a little but not enough to prevent cramps.
In addition to the Gamesir Kaleid I have tried several Xbox controllers, the Victrix Gambit, Scuf Envision Pro, Razer Wolverine v3, and the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro.
Only the Wolverine and Kaleid gave me cramps, and they are both smaller than average, so again it might be the form factor.
The best triggers I have tried were on the Victrix Gambit, and they also happened to be the widest. But the Gambit build quality is poor and it kept breaking, so I am now using the Vader 4 Pro.
@@OldManRob13 I know many people like trigger locks, but I am personally faster without them.
This can be used on Xbox? Or just pc or switch?
@@AudioAddict. just PC/Switch/Mobile, sadly. We’re all still eating for the G7 Pro!
@@OldManRob13 dayum I’ve been liking my G7se tho so I ain’t complaining that g7 pro gonna be nice!
bruh why cant the t3 have profiles ..
@@vinny3139 I wondered the same thing man
Can you macro two buttons like on a Logitech mouse?
@@swazy1777 you can, yes.
hey bro, my gamesir cyclone 2 just came and i have problem regarding the dongle. if i want to use my stick in dongle mode, it doesnt detect anything, and it will only work when i turned on "steam input controller", which is fine when i played my steam games, but this mean i cant play my non-steam game cause it doesn have the steam controller input. anyone have solution??
@@sommervillem1069 I haven’t had that issue at all. Have you updated the dongle through the Connect app?
@@OldManRob13 how can you do that?
@@sommervillem1069 if you have it connected via dongle and open the GameSir Connect app, it should update, but there’s also an update button in the top right corner of the app.
@@OldManRob13 i've just realised that my stick detected as switch pro controller when im using the dongle. did that also happen with your controller?
@@sommervillem1069 It did not. Sounds like the controller is in Bluetooth mode, and though they don’t say so I assume the dongle can receive either 2.4 wireless or Bluetooth connection. Press and hold home button + X for about 2 seconds, and home light should flash 3 times, and that should change it back to pc/xinput mode.
why i cant conect to gamesir conect app?
@@samuelsepri6316 not sure, I’ve had no issues with it at all with the Cyclone 2. You do need to connect to it wired first, I think. But after that should connect wired or wireless.
Does the Tarantula Pro have profiles???
Sadly, no. Not sure why they did profiles on the C2, but not on the Tarantula.
@@OldManRob13 the one thing they really need to update on the software
the discontinuation of the Kaleid is basically a smoke screen for the rebranding to this Cyclone line
Kaleid are Hall Effect, these new ones are TMR. This basically a Kaleid with TMR, 1000Hz wireless and better mapping functions
Or the Kaleid line is in a branding situation for Xbox exclusively which caused earlier models to be discontinued.
The T4 cyclone already existed and had a planned update so they added some RGB because everyone was sold on the pdp prismatic controller.
They have got to stop putting only 2 buttons on the back of these controllers. A lot of people want 4.
Does the t2 Cyclone have gyro?
@@blorbb5398 it’s supposed to, but currently the Connect App says “coming soon” in the motion section. You can see it in the video, but I should have remembered to point it out, my bad.
@@OldManRob13 Thanks
waiting for the g7 pro
I prefer rubber-membrane buttons. The mechanical buttons GameSir uses are cheap and sound tacky.
How does this compare to the vader 4 pro?
@@AdvancedGamingYT Honesrly? I like this controller quite a bit…but nothing compares to the Vader 4. Still my go-to, 100%.