Sailor Moon and Censorship | Ellen Noel
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- I really really like Sailor Moon.
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Shout out to 'Sailor Moon Says' on RUclips for uploading a bunch of dic dub clips
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0:00 Start
0:53 Representation in Japan
2:43 Sailor Moon Gets Localized
4:51 Four Heavenly Kings
8:50 Cousins
12:27 Fisheye Lens
15:17 Defcon Gay
19:20 Conclusion
21:12 Fin 
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Wait... a dub made Kunzite and Zoisite brothers and father and son?! That's uh... much worse than the cousins.
I know right? that's why I say the Dic gender bending Zoisite was tame compared to what some other countries did. lol
Though interestingly enough the original manga apparently didn't have Zoisite x Kunzite and had the Sailor Moon Manga Materials Collection even state that they had a brotherly bond.
And it wasn't the American dub. You can say a lot about us being intolerant, but at least we limit our accidental incest to cousins, not siblings or parents and children.
Bro it's was in russian dub, and as russian I was kinda terrified and laughed at the same time when I saw it. Also russian dub made Uranus male, but didn't changed her sailor clothes, so it's looked like Uranus is trans
That's really interesting and funny
@@weaverinred6888 OH GOD
I find it funny how you say Haruka hated Seiya and you didn’t even bring up that scene where Seiya is in Michiru’s dressing room flirting with her and Haruka walks in and tells Seiya to get the hell out and then immediately afterwards Michiru is just like “come help me take off my dress” like you don’t flirt with Haruka’s girl haha
True!
Also, "Haruka doesn't like popular men' which may not technically apply to Seiya, who is technically a girl, but it appies because she's pretending to be a boy
I know! I was waiting for it!
He IS Tuxedo Mask! I don't believe it.
*idontbeliveit
Next time I find a rose, I’m gonna say “I am tuxedo mask”. If someone doesn’t say I don’t believe it I’m going to be very disappointed
I LAUGHED so HARD because she sounded like a robot saying that and it sounded like sarcasm lmao 🤣
no no no. its "heistuxedomaskidontbeliveit"
Naoko Takeuchi invented representation. She was doing in 1990s mangas and anime series what people are struggling to do in young-adult / adult series nowadays.
Fun fact, in the original Japanese dub, Naru actually has a thick accent from a specific region of Japan. So the original localizers thought to add this aspect of naru in an americanized way.
I didn't know that! That's actually pretty cool.
@@EllenNoelit's not actually true. It's a myth that has been repeated in this fandom for years
i guess it's time to finally get around to watching sailor moon
yes.
I will start watching Sailor Moon Super soon.
I love they kept the original music when ever Haruka and Michiru walked on screen together...
8:35
I can confirm that in the russian dub of the show, these two were preseted to have a "father-son" type of relationship, though, I don't think they were actually related lol
Not sure if anyone noticed this, but if you watch the subbed version, when Usagi introduces herself in ep2 she says her age is 14. The Japanese audio however introduces her age as juu ni... which is 12. That age fits more into the time-line over the entire run.
*chuu-ni. (中二) It means grade 2 in junior high school. I live in Japan btw. She's not 12 lmfaoo
@@kingdomgalaxy_ yeah, Momoru was riding the line as it was, being like 17 when they met
The one dislike us a person that supports cousins in love. Also I never knew they censored fisheye!!! I watched it in Spanish and they made fisheye a cis female too.
The cousins shit they pulled was hilarious. After watching Sailor Moon, I clicked on some videos that a user called Sailor Moon Says posts and oh boy did I have a big laugh at all those clips. Not only with the voice acting but with the poor censorship 💀 They really thought people would think they're cousins. "Amara, don't worry! Your hands still look clean to me." I can't.
Although, I've heard that the cloverway staff didn't want to censor their relationship but were forced to because of TV reasons. So instead they gave a lot of hints that those two were actually lovers. Still tho, making them cousins was dumb, they could've made them best friends instead honestly.
It was in the Russian dub that Zoisite and Kunzite were father and son. Even though their other speeches were translated pretty much directly from the Japanese ones, before dying, Zoisite said to Kunzite "I've always loved you... like a father."
2:16 I would like to point out that although Banana Fish’s adaption is fairly new, it was first an 1980’s manga, at a time when the “bury your gays” trope was extremely popular going on into the early 90s.
yeah, as a 90s kid fan of sailor moon, seeing content about the "sailor stars" season when I got older was *highly* confusing (and because I also don't read manga, so my only exposure was/is the anime). I never got around to finally watching the fifth season, but this video has renewed my interest in a rewatch with the Viz dub now! :>
Fish’s eye is the best villain in the oh anime. You CANNOT change my mind.
Kunzite and zoisite being father & son in a dub is very sweet home alabama
Absolutely loved this video and glad to have context on this. I was one of the queer kids in the 90s watching this very butchered "dub"- and now I'm 32 watching the Viz dub and slowly realizing I'm watching a VERY different show than I remember as a kid. Started googling and ended up here. Wonderful job, this put a lot of missing pieces into place!
I’m currently watching the new dub and they do mention that Kunzite, Jadite, etc. have the title 4 Heavenly Kings.
I really REALLY liked this video, I grew up fascinated by sailor moon, to the point that I even have A Chibiusa tattoo on my leg, and it was also the reason why I dyed my hair pink for more than 5 years.
As a child, I felt FASCINATED by Haruka and Kou Seiya and I was very deeply in love especially with sailor Uranus, I was obsessed with drawing her all the time, imagining love stories with her.
I guess that´s why till this day I really adore people that are gender-fluid and sometimes I think part of myself found somehow something that I really needed inside me, in this manga/anime and makes me who I am these days, even if it sounds cheesy it´s what it is! Great video !!
The sad thing about Banana Fish (spoiler warning) is that the creator originally wanted them to end up together but their, I don't know I think it was their manager?, they said they couldn't end up being together so Ash got killed off...
An anime that I consider gay/bi-ish, is No. 6
The opening even has a freaking rainbow in it.
You're awesome and thank you for giving some actual insight into the issues revolving around the attitudes of the LGBT community in Japan.
Girl, how tf are you still only at 1640 subscribers? Your content really feels like the kinda stuff that'd be coming from a channel with a 100k+ sub number.
thank you so much!
Well, I wouldn't say that Sailor Moon is necessarily a gay series, it's just a bit more open minded to all kinds of relationships. Like Usagi and Mamoru are a straight couple no matter what, but Sailor Moon also has room for diverse characters, so it's not necessarily GAY but a bit MORE DIVERSE!
There's no shame in pointing out that this series is pretty queer
Queer or not, it gathered enough fans!
Can you believe they even gave us polyamory??? They really said "go girls (and enbies), give them everything!"
(I'm referring to - SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS -
Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
Damn Haruka how come you get to have 4 parents? (if we count her dad too)
I will be back to finish this after I have finished watching the show.
I always thought of the sailor stars as biologically male in their human form and then transforming into biologically female in their sailor form- so they're magically transgender. It gives the characters this mystical alchemical mystery that I enjoy.
They could be genderfluid too
@@twinkiesmaster69 By today's standards, yes.
In the anime they are, but not in the original manga. In the manga they are all gnc women. It's something that
Naoko Takeuchi had an issue with when the anime was being made; she'd declared that Sailor Guardians were supposed to only be of the female sex and that change was not one she supported
The Starlights are biologically female and they disguise themselves as men while looking for Princess Kakyuu. You can actually make a good case for Seiya being a transman since they're very comfortable being a man, whereas Taiki and Yaten are obviously only tolerating their civilian forms for the mission
I watched this in the 90s and I do remember that the Starlight's season ran for maybe 3 or 4 episodes. I thought it was because the show was cancelled. Some things were present in the shows but never explained.
Sailor Stars actually wasn't licensed for the USA/Canada until Viz, so it was much later than 2005.
Thankfully, we had the Mixx/Chixx/TokyoPop manga, which was a mess of its own in the translation but kept all relationships, genders, romances intact.
A lot of the issues were also not Dic, but CWI, who dubbed S and SuperS.
The truth is, without the censorship we'd have never seen Sailor Moon (and because of it, a lot of anime, especially shojo, in general). Sailor Moon's early dubs maybe have even helped contribute to changing attitudes (no one bought the cousins thing, let's be real.) and could have even served for that generation easing into acceptance a little more.
So as bad as it may look 20+ years later, I'm thankful it happened so we were allowed to see it.
I've gone from hating on the dub to realizing it is what introduced me to Sailor Moon and enjoying some of its campy humor.
In Italy they made Uranus a guy (with a female voice actress doing a deep voice btw) and only transformed into a girl while fighting as a Sailor. Yeah.
I think the most definitive evidence that Fish Eye is a cross-dressing gay guy is that in episode 10 Hawk's Eye says to Fish Eye "we're all guys here." Fish Eye also tells Yoshiki Usui "I'm a guy." In that episode his mark was also gay so he could get further not disguising himself. I think too many people are reading modern social mores that are less than 10 years old into an old show. Keep in mind also that Naoko Takeuchi made a rule that only biological females can be Sailor Senshi which is why she protested against the Star Lights changing their biology when they transform. There's no Sailor Earth because Mamoru Chiba is male and has the Earth Sailor Crystal.
I remember watching the dic dub of Sailor Moon when I was like 7 and even back then, I was not fooled by the "cousins". I didn't even know what gay was, but I knew those two were in love. XD
I'm still to this day perplexed the old dub didn't take the easy route and had the Sailor Stars be all-female even in their civilian/band disguises... considering the lengths both Saban and Cloverway went with prior seasons.
I remember as a kid COMPLETELY buying the lie I was given that Zoicite and Fisheye were females in the old dubs (even crushing on them admittedly, though I guess once I learned they were actually effeminate males, I discovered I was likely bi), and considering how equally androgynous the Stars were even when acting as males, I likely wouldn't have noticed any changes in my naivety back then...
but I did know about the Uranus/Neptune thing by the time the Cloverway dub introduced them, which made the never-deleted romantic scenes between them a lot more awkward, yet hilarious of how sloppy it was handled.
Yesssss S5 was SO good! Also it was SO fucking funny that they just took Mamoru out of the scene for most of S5. They said "get this straight guy outta here"!
Then again, if Mamo did have a previous boyfriend... Damn, I think being a sailor scout or adjacent makes you intrinsically lgbt in some way
"They're girls and cousins too!" and "They're the best cousins" always makes me cringe so badly 😅
this is so well made? I was super surprised to find it only had 700 views. honestly this is really good content and you deserve a lot more attention 💕
Thank you so much 💝
I have an insane fascination with Fish Eye at the moment, so even though I have watched the entire video, I'm mainly just here because I wanna squeal about how cute Fish Eye is >w
In Latin America we were lucky we had everything dubbed, all seasons and episodes without cuts or edits, we got some things from the Dic dub like the names Serena, Darien, etc. and female Zoisite and Fisheye, fortunatelly Haruka and Michiru were not called cousins and the Sailor Starlights had different voice actors for their male and female forms.
And I'm ready to admit it here- as a kid watching the dub, I didn't know Zoycite was origionally a male. People point out "well look how flat chested 'she' is". I didn't notice that at all. I'd love to say "well I was an enlightened child who saw it as positive body diversity" but no, I just accepted it as "that's just what her body looks like".
I just stumbled upon this video. This was nicely edited and informative. Awesome job and keep up the great work. 👍
Thank you!
I’ve never seen the last season of the 90s anime, but I really like that part of the manga. I can’t wait to get to that part of the series in my rewatch. ☺️ Great video!!
Wait the gloves fit! That must mean Ellen did it.
I love this!! Thank you for posting, love your Uranus cosplay!! Moonie for life!!
thank you so much for this video!
I'll be honest, I never watch Q&A videos. Loved this video though, and your cosplay is so cool!
This was such a good video. Thank you
Two misconceptions about Stars:
-The starlights were never meant to be trans icons or a topic of debate. they turned into men because the anime director wanted to replicate season 1's Mamory/Usagi moments with another male character. Why they didn't keep Seiya as a crossdressing woman? The sub version of the date episode between Mako and Haruka explains it pretty well, with Usagi thinking that Mako possibly being a lesbian would be disgusting. Despite UraNep being blatantly there the whole time, alright...(viz changed that one, making them say that Haruka is already dating Michiru, thus Mako would interfere if they went out on a date, but that doesn't erase the original's homophobic implications)
-It took so long for it to come to America, not because of the gayness, but because at that time Naoko founded PNP to basically control every aspect of the Sailor Moon franchise, including adaptions and dubbing. Everything basically froze from that point. The fact that it had gender-changing soldiers was purely coincidental, and America really got the preultimate season at the wrong time.
Your intro always makes me smile
The censorship will always be a part of Sailor Moon. Its just how it goes. Ironically, the series wouldn't be half as memorable today without it.
The Dark Kingdom Was Peek Fiction
Kirsten Bishop is the best part of the 90’s adaptation
What a quality video! You deserve so many more subscribers!
"father and son" - it's from Russian 90s dub. But they are not actual relatives there - Zoizit, dying, says:
"Lord Kunzite, I loved you... like a father".
Russian version was censored or altered as well - Queen Metalia turned into King Metalia (wtf?), Queen Beryl -> Queen Perdition/Death (wtf?!), Fisheye turned into a woman, everyone reffered to Haruka as a woman, but she spoke of herself as of a man (the Russian language has grammatical gender, so she kept saying, for instance, "я сказал" (masculine) instead of "я сказалА" (feminine))
Cousins or close friends...i think that is a great way tl intoduce kids to it. Cause as they get older they realize "oh they are more than close friends."
Hell they even used time travel to prevent kids from seeing the MCs have sex. XD to get the 2nd kid.
Good job with the research!
I really enjoyed watching this :) thank you for sharing these facts about Sailor Moon
Hey discovered you today. Awesome content.
Hey, greetings from Spain. I understand that it was here that Sailor Moon was exported for the first time outside of Japan in summer of 1993 and it had a censorship similar to that of America, in the case of Kunzite and Zoicite they were presented as uncle and nephew, Haruka and Michiru (Timy and Vichy) also did that they were cousins, in the case of fisheye, strangely they kept it as a man, although with a very effeminate voice and with respect to the starlights they did not make any changes, I hope you find it interesting
I love Sailormoon seen then..❤ I love all episodes.. More power to you.
I live in the midwest and never saw sailor moon until it came out on dvd. They cancelled it in my area right after it came out in the 90s.
In the Russian dub, one of them (Kunsite or Zoisite) said to another: I love you.. as a father
Im glad i got the viz media of sailor moon all 5 seasons, i see many changes big time. I still love either version even the musical score.
Also I forgot to mention, I'm super jelly of your awesome Sailor Scoutfit.
great content!
So in love with Seiya🤭♥️. Awesome video👏
Yeah thanks for the lecture and history I'm watching the original sailor moon on Pluto tv 😊
Watching the Wiz dub since in Canada we had the DIC version on YTV. I was like “woah this sure is more gay and bloody” but in a good way. I feel kinda robbed of a better story as a child but as an adult I can appreciate the subtext, motifs and art aesthetic on a deeper level. I think the censorship says a lot about how in North America we are ok exposing kids to sanitized violence but not to consenting loving relationships and the consequences of fighting 😂
fish eye is a toric/achillean/viramoric NB icon. its just gruesome that this was erased due to gay censorship that was heavily plagued by homophobia.
I was born in the late 00s and even I grew up with the 90s dub back in 2015. Small me was rather confused of the whole 'cousin' thing but luckily the internet existed and I googled it and I was disgusted in a sense. My small self (not knowing of my queerness at the time) was saddened by this but luckily 2017 happened and then Sailor Moon could finally show the English audiences that it has the big gay :)
It was pretty convincing; I always believed Zoisite was a woman for sure.
But man, I really wish we had had the gay version of Sailor Moon in Canada when I was a kid!
Back when I watch this series as a child I used to be completely obsessed with it although I wouldn't say child because I was into this series until I was 32 years old... The thing is that back then we didn't have all these silly buzzwords for gays and alphabet letters they can be gay without being labeled labels are for material objects not people. I don't understand the need for having to label them they were just awesome characters as they were but now this whole community has ruined the entire show for me. People get really upset about little things and it's just disgusting how they treat each other.
It's pronounced "Deek" not Dee Eye See...and DiC didn't super the S and SuperS season, that was from Cloverway
My thought on Sailor Moon Cosmos and I said I love it so much it is the best it feels like the Avengers Infinity War Endgame and Justice League Dark Apocalyps War combined because we see Sailor Moon and her friends are losing or failing the battle against Galaxia and her minions win and this shows Sailor Moon lowest point of loss of her friends and then she have to rise up like the Star keep shinning have courage no give up with the Kakyuu, the Sailor Starlights, Sailor Chibi Chibi with Sailor Chibi Moon and Sailor Quartet soon follow they do whatever it takes to win this time and bring everyone back no matter what just that Avengers and Justice League did in Endgame and Apocalyps War and it so epic and triumphant ending to the reboot or Crystalverse.
and the people from Latin America got the story in full
maybe names was similiar of the US but yep gay gay gay
I grew up with sailor moon, Michiru & Haruka is one of my favourite characters ever, so....
I often say that if someone hated the DiC version, go see what Battle Of The Planets did to Gatchaman 1972. Now that I think about it, Gatchaman did have a major villain that is a non binary. I think I called the villain a shapeshifter to explain it.
About 10 years ago, I did not realize Japan was not a gay friendly place. Is it bad if I thought all the fujoshi made me think it was gay friendly? I suppose I was another person who thought much of it looked like Shibuya Crossing.
I remember reading a bunch of internet rumors during late 1998 and early 1999. If you thought it was funny how weird news gets from Japan to the USA, it doesn't even match.
I remember buying the Viz DVDs back in 2017 or 2018. I laughed so hard when I heard a deleted joke. I didn't know a lot of Japanese words, most of the ones I know are known by weebs. When I heard "Pettanko" in the Giwakke episode, I cracked up.
19:03 It doesn't sound that strange. The Super Mario Brothers 2 for the Famicom was called "Lost Levels" before being added to Mario All Stars and sold in the USA.
The Amazon Trio debuted in season FOUR.
Didn't the Amazon Trio appear in the 4th season of Sailor Moon? And it was Cloverway who dubbed S and SuperS. Not DiC.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with this censorship anymore. We have the Viz Media dub and we get to enjoy being just like the Japanese version.
Seasons 3 & 4 (S & Super S) were NOT Dubbed by DiC, it was done by CloverWay. They both had VERY different ways in Dubbing the Sailor Moon Anime. The DiC Dub changed the Background Music and added in their own sound effects, which was actually a good idea to make everything sound consistent for when Scenes needed to be spliced together , cut suddenly or skipped in its entirety due to Censorship. CloverWay Kept the Original Background Music, which was nice but made it PAINFULLY OBVIOUS When they Cut Scenes and what not. CloverWay would also go back and forth from using The Original Attack Names (Moon Tiara Action, Sparkling Wide Pressure, Etc), and the DiC Dub ones (Moon Tiara Magic, Jupiter Thunder Clap/Cloud Zap, Etc) instead of making them consistent. Plus, ALOT of the Voices Changed when CloverWay took over, Most Notably, Sailor Moon. I wish DiC continue to dubbing Sailor Moon into the 3rd & 4th Seasons as it would've been more consistent with the Previous Season's Dub and i think it would have actually been kind of cool to hear their original music integrated with seasons 3 & 4. The Music and some of the sound effects they made for the first two Season's Dub (and the 3 Movies on VHS) are some of the most Beautiful, Recognizable & Iconic when it comes to Sailor Moon I'd Say. The was a Group on Facebook years ago (dont know if its still there or if they are still doing it) that were Dubbing the 5th Season of Sailor Moon in the Style of the DiC Dub. I thought they did a Amazing Job, I just wish I remembered what the Project was called But what i DO Remember was that the Three Lights civilian names all started with J, with Star Fighter Being "Justin". Imma try and find it and will edit/update this comment if I do come across it Again.
So I never really watched Sailor Moon so correct me if I’m way off base here but isn’t it about like teenagers anyway so [14:53] would still be way worse as a cis-woman because then it appears that a prepubescent girl is just being fully exposed. And if that isn’t the case and this character _is actually_ an adult it still seems like they aren’t an adult in that context and are the same age as the main cast of all the ‘Sailors.’
Idk, like I said I could be way off here though.
The character's age is never really specified, and they are seen at a bar a few times, but sailor moon does definitely have a problem with putting it's teen characters in age inappropriate situations. For example the lead character, Usagi, is 14, and in the original 90's anime her love interest, Mamoru, is a University student. Which is definitely a yikes. So your point definitely still stands.
@@EllenNoel gotcha, yeah unfortunately it wouldn’t be alone in portraying teen girls in a questionable manner or in dubious _read: unsettling_ relationships.
Not that those aspects completely overrule and discredit media of any other value or substance it has to offer. I just hope that one day we can stop sexualizing and simultaneously infantilizing teen girls, especially in media deliberately targeting that demographic.
_sorry for the long reply. I somehow deviated into a tangent there for a minute._
@@linseyspolidoro5122 It was a good tangent. I entirely agree with this tangent. Media is more often than not... pretty icky.
Oh my god I love your style :))) Imma check out the rest of your channel :00
Thank you! 💝
Good job 👏
Even at a young age haruka and michiru were pretty sus cousins to me. It always felt like they had something there in the dic dub.
Sarah La Fleur was a great Uranus
I have to rewatch it the 90s version
I didn't know that they censored the fighting too! Woooow
Back when I was obsessivrly printing pages from AniPike (y'all real little shrimps don't even know about AniPike; get on my level) when I heard S was coming to America, I was excited. I don't know why. I *knew* America was homophobic as Hell. I knew they had no chance. Still, I went to my Godmother's house and waited eagerly for 4:00 when Sailor Moon would come on and I'd get to see Haruka and Michiru for the first time. I was so excited. First new episide I'd ever see (my parents didn't have cable).
It was the Love Contest episode.
You already know where this is going.
"They're both girls, and cousins, too".
I was... furious. I was incensed. I was livid. But what did I expect? I don't know... maybe for them not to address it or something. I was in 6th or 7th grade at the time, so who knows what I was thinking. I should have expected it. But yeah, I was not happy.
X-number of years later and cartoons have LGBT characters and relationships all over the place, from two dads on Loud House to Kelsey amd Stacks in Craig of the Creek. I'm happy for the kids of today, and I know it's only possible because of the work the LGBT elders did, so, I'm thankful.
But I'm still mad about the cousins thing.
Sailor Stars literally changed my life
Never watched Sailor Moon, but this video was interesting nonetheless. Also now I'm wondering what the German dub is like...
(Also the German dub has the best op, don't @ me)
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12:26 I knew you'd say "fishy". 😂
12:00 the end result is sweet home alabama
Michiru and Haruka being cousins is much more worser than I thought. I love how Haruka and Michiru are the best couple
I have come to understand that Optimum Productions was behind the extensive editing of Sailor Moon. The alterations and quality issues often originated from this company. Optimum Productions ceased operations in 2010. Despite their efforts to impact what fans value, my dissatisfaction stems from their edits, which I perceive as careless. In particular, their modification of content involving LGBTQ+ themes was disappointing.
I was ok with changing zoisite because I heard the reason that they were afraid that they would be the first guy couple that many children would actualy notice and then would thing all quys were villains. So I got that from one Point of view but then they die uranus and Neptun and I just tought well if that was the reason then here you have two heros so that should be ok
Have you watched Revolutionary Girl Utena? You should check it out, Ikuhara left sailor moon to do it after not being allowed to make the Uranus and Neptune sailor moon movie he wanted. Super interesting 💜
I've seen a couple episodes and actually went to a panel about it at a con a few years ago! The history is super interesting.
Thanks for your answer. It’s definitely one to watch complete to understand it, and watch it attentively. I needed a second watch to fully take it all in and it’s absolutely amazing. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks so much for your vídeos, I’m happy thenalgorythm took me here. I used to cosplay as sailor Uranus too.
I remember Zoisite be female in English dub made by Dic
What was the name of the episode they first showed up in?
I’m pretty sure fish’s eye is a gay guy since the other two ask him if he’s cross dressing again in one episode