What they Don't Say About Highland Clearance
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Highland Clearances seem like a relentlessly negative story of downtrodden victims. However there were small victories for poor Highland tennants. Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey, tells the tale of the women of Coigach, and how they made a stand against the family with the worst reputations of all clearing landlords.
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How did yer gig in Hali go? Survived, at least, I see ;-)
It took me a few tries, but I finally worked out your shirt's English translation - "I hope you have a good day." Please stay safe [fuirich sàbhailte]and keep the educational videos coming.
Just down the road in gairloch the laird decided to help the tenants by introducing new farming methods,no one was cleared .the lairds descendant still lives here.
That is so good to know! 🙏🏴🇮🇪🙋👌⚖️
@penderyn8794 Still taught in the school and museum keeps it going .
Makes sense. Long-term it would’ve been proved the quality of the land I meant that down the road the landlord up the rents for the tenants but also it would improve the local economy because odds are the Lord would have property in the immediate villages and towns so which would increase the need for things like shops and other facilities resulting in the local economic boom.
The very least it would keep the rents coming in and his Lordship not having to deal with a bunch of angry people wanting to string him up by his privates . Plus solicitors are not cheap and I suspect for whatever his more spent on improving the land and helping the local tenants improve their yields was probably less long-term than he would’ve spent on solicitors fees and thugs kicking people off the land.
Fun and games would really come though during World War I when so many young men were shipped off to fight. I don’t think a lot of places have ever really recovered in terms of some locations in terms of population of locally men because so many were sorted.
For instance, the Scottish wildcat only survived because a lot of the keepers we shipped off to fight and those that were left were probably busy doing other things on the estate. Try to cover for the absence of so many people who would be working land reducing food and raw materials,
It will be interesting if Bruce made a video about that state and especially that period in World War I and World War II won so many of the young men were all fighting and the women had to stand step into what traditionally male roles. My own maternal grandmother worked in Vickers in Barrow ib llfurnace along with her sisters and countless of the young women because the young men got shipped to fight.
@@alistairjamesheaton9155as with the Rowntrees and Lord Leverhume not all the rich were just money grubbing horrors. They built solid houses and paid decent wages. Provided schools for the education of children. Funded other improvements as well. Ok they made money but the workforce was respected.
Alot were quakers. An underrated Christian sect.
@@alistairjamesheaton9155good shout, that would be an interesting video. The "clearances" from men being sent off to war, and so many not coming back, probably was the final death blow to many small communities
I absolutely love this story! What brave and good women!❤️❤️❤️
Sheros💃🏾
Crazy thing is the clearances continued up to and into the early 20th century in Shetland.
John Prebble's book "The Highland Clearances" is excellent on this, he too emphasising the men's passive acceptance, whilst the women aggressively resisted. The book is a rather long in the tooth now, but it remains in print as an inexpensive paperback.
Strong Highland women with Pict blood running through thier views 💪
Proud of these strong women! ❤️❤️❤️
@@crofterlass3459whilst there’s undoubtedly some Pictish dna in most Teuchters there’s a higher percentage of Norwegian especially in the Hebrides, Ross, Sutherland and Caithness.
Yes i am aware @fearnpol4938
@crofterlass3459 I'd say it's got more to do with the fact that men got more severely punished back then and in some cases still do to this day.
Telling the story of the police being seen as a threat or a weaponised threat was good analogy.
I reckon I would have been on the beach.
Same...I'd be on the beach ..
Me too
Proud pict. I'm that too 🙂
I was told one of my Highland great-great grandfathers was given the choice of remaining on the land or being freed of his tenancy by working on the construction of the Caledonian Canal. He was off like a shot and ended up living in Inverness.
Once in Aberdeen Scotland🏴 Remember seeing this area" on a little welcome center Map 🗺️It's like mohair cliff's here in Ireland. and the coastal line even seem the exact same . 🚢❤
I saw a weaponised police force in the 80s, I will never forget or forgive it.
The miners in my village mine in St Helens could be seen giving the few coppers cups of tea and standing round the fire chatting. They thought there mine was safe because they had a brand new mine shaft lift system built. So the miners were going over to support the Yorkshire miners. When maggies bought and paid for police force who were about to attack. Police got 3 pay rises in three years 13% year later 12% third year 11%. Better pensions as well. Thatcher bought police loyalty to the Tory party. I had friends on both sides. But my loyalty is still with the miners.
Ps. The mine closed 3 years later. They said the mine was loosing money. It was the cost of the new shaft. But I had warned my friends to look for new jobs or trades to do night school.
I had photographed the plans for slide shows for the owners. None of the structure bolts were to be welded. It was very easy to dismantle and re sell. The mine is now a dog walkers site with a statue of a women’s head in white stone over looking the m62. The is no work in the village except a garage one corner shop a couple hairdresser and chemist. Never vote Tory.
@@garygalt4146 Are you suggesting a Labour Government would have handled it differently?
Today the police just arrest for thought crimes while violence is rampant... I think id rather go back to the days of The Sweeney...
Wonderful stories...about real events. A very nice difference from the weirdness going on otherwise! Thank you Bruce!
Hey Bruce, I love the eye level "STORIES OF SCOTLAND" ad banner as you walk in the little gift shop. Way to go!!! I wonder how many others noticed it...
Bruce what can I say, Jesus Sir once again you have excelled yersel. Bruce you tell our story like no one else. Live long and prosper Bruce. SAOR ALBA GU BRATH
Ah thanks mate😘
You are the best story teller ever
Thank you sir
Lovely video as always Bruce. What you said about the police really hit home.
I am ex police for North Yorkshire and I went in with rosie tinted glasses on thinking I was going to help the world. My colleagues destroyed me mentally. The amount of knives in my back were countless and because of my age at the time I thought it was all my fault.
I am now 32 and over my policing experience and genuinely feel sorry for the good ones left in who want to do good. They are few in places.
I had never been bullied in my life until joining the police. Turned me into a border line alcoholic who was a nervous wreck.
Anyone still in who is thinking of getting out do it for your happiness. ❤❤❤
It's a shame that the bad cops cause good people to quit the job!
@@lindahouston5635 it is but I am sure things will balance out in years to come. There's good and bad in all walks, you should just cherish the good ones you happen to meet.
@@yorkshireaquatics9537 well said.
I did the same in the NHS. I would go above and beyond to make sure my work was "all present and correct". Like you found in the Police, there is whole lot of bad in the NHS despite people's perceptions. I am glad you got out and wish you well in whatever you are doing now. ♥️🏴
My Grandfather was a Sutherland, and my Grandmother regaled me with stories about how during the clearance our family came to Canada and America.
I'm 23 and In my honest opinion, you are the best scottish history channel. I love your content and alot of young scottish people appreciate the work you do. Please continue educating scotland ❤
And us Americans of Scots/Irish descent who love to hear stories 🏴💚
Wilhoit's law. Conservatism consists of exactly one preposition, to whit: There should be an ingroup that the law protects but does not bind and an outgroup that the law binds but does not protect.
“This quotation is often incorrectly attributed to Francis M. Wilhoit:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.[10]
However, it was actually a 2018 blog response by 59-year-old Ohio composer Frank Wilhoit, years after Francis Wilhoit's death.” ( from Wikipedia)
I'm on the shoreline (but I have eyes in the boat)
Once you wrap your head around that, things get a bit easier to tolerate
It just shows how well balanced an argument you can give, Bruce. Excellent video. As always, thank you for taking the time to share 🌞
Very welcome
History has always been written by the victor.
But, there's always two sides. What about the looser?
That's where Bruce's videos are far superior to many "historians" who only tell one side. Bruce at least tries to give a balanced view, makes the viewer think.
His videos aren't a historical lecture, in fact I often have more questions after his videos than I did at the start, because he makes me THINK, makes me question history, which is what we should always do
Scots women have always influenced history. The most recent I remember, was the rent strike in Glasgow.
There is no sign of a Climate anything in the data on anything. But that's a long and involved discussion.
Interesting video Bruce, the law has always been on the side of money, as I've never had a lot of that I'd have been on the beach.
The law is written by those with money to protect themselves. That's why law came into being, so the criminals could legitimise their unwholesome actions. Then of course all other laws are a spin-off; to protect property, to protect employees, etc.
@@haraldtheyounger5504I think laws to protect workers meet with a lot of opposition from enterprise owners just as laws to protect the environment never have an easy passage.
@@Wee_Langside Yep, employees had to fight for their laws, and if/when possible, employers will circumvent such. Hence, Freeport's are a very bad idea as the companies operating such can make their own laws, rules. Seems to be the way Big Business is attempting to shift workers rights back into the 12th Century, not the 21st.
So, how are things lookin from the boat?
My great great (I think maybe add another great for good measure I can't quite recall) was involved in something her funeral notice called The Battle of the Gruinards, which as I've not been able to Google any references to may have been resistance to clearances or something to do with her activity in bootlegging.
@@905royals that's an incident that took place on Islay, the one I'm talking is said in the newspaper announcement took place on the south bank of the Carron
The more things change, the more they remain the same.... I felt I had that original thought, turns out some French bloke got there first....Like I genuinely thought I came up with "There's never a mongoose around when you need one." Only to hear Niles Crane say it on a Frasier rerun. Which kind of makes the first statement true.......kind of. Thanks for posting.
I think you should have a look at the "Ådalen shootings" in Sweden. Strikers shot by Swedish military because the strikers didn't want pay reductions... Have a look at "ådalen shootings".
I grew up knowing Captains Masterton and Beckman were bad people, and they were. My grandfather was there when it happened. It's a shameful part of Swedish history that will never be repeated again, not as long as people remember. There's a film from 1969: "Adalen riots". Have a look, if it's possible. I know you'd love it. There's a poem on the stone where the victims of the military were buried:
"Here rests
a Swedish worker
fallen in a time of peace
unarmed defenceless
Fusilladed
by bullets unknown
The crime was hunger
Never forget him"
Oskar Berggren, Erik Bergström, Evert Nygren, Sture Larsson (and Eira Söderberg, she was just a bystander, but bullets didn't care then, and they don't care now. Eira got her own stone).
Never knew any of that very sad
Could this include Thaibairn (so)? We’re Mackenzie McLeod here in New Zealand yet our ancestress held her ground against the land clearances 🧝🏻♀️🏴
I guess I’m in the shallow water. I’ve never found the police as a threat, but I would have supported the people on shore. Glad that the “little” people prevailed.
Another fantastic example of Scottish history Bruce. Always both sides to any story. Something that is often seen on the internet today. Keep up the good work. Look forward to your next posting.
Many thanks!
I 2nd that.
Now I’m not sure if I’m on the boat or on the land.. see I believe in the rule of law but I also believe the law can be wrong and it’s up to us to challenge it where it doesn’t make sense or is treating people in an unfair manner..
I think in this instance I’d probably be on the shore.. or possibly trying to get the two sides to sit down at the dock and talk.. hmm confusing
Been saying the same about blue, red and green for years! 🤠💚
Why is there always a Cameron involved in conflict?
As usual, there are two sides to every story. I love the part about the brave ladies. Hope they get their memorial. Thanks for another informative video.
I hope so too!
@penderyn8794 corporate take over. After many years on political debate sites, hearing the same argument about Scotland being bankrupted in 1707, and to this day, I done a very quick check.
It certainly surprised me, I'd encourage everyone to look into it.
I checked on the national debt of both Scotland and England at that time How much was lost on the Darien expedition How much compensation was offered And of course the terms of the union.
History is indeed written by the victor.
A wonga loan would have been better, and cheaper, to pay off the losses from Darien, instead of accepting the corporate take over
Man.. Scotland/ highlands are incredibly beautiful…, 5 years we still missing it.
Today, Glesga's green n white, Brucie!
I widnae ken, I'm in Canada
Is that the green of Hamza's mob ? What's his pronoun BTW ?
@@jcoker423Is this mob in the room with us now? Let’s get you back to bed granda.
If you want to do what's best for the people of Scotland you need to get independence first, then we can decide everything for ourselves.
🤔
And what is your pronoun?
I love your stories…
My stories live you😘
The question is: who owned that land? Was it the ones who descended from the people who had been working that land for generations, or is it the ones descended from the people who owned the land for generations? And does legitimate land ownership change via a use of force? Because that is how the original owners from across the water got it. And that was how the people who worked the land for generations such as Mary and Stewart, et al got the land in the end. Who was in the right? Hard to say.
I'm sure some of the police must be nice buggers, but I've only ever seen them either being used against my family and friend. Or being bloody useless when we've asked for help.
Good to see you big man👊🏼
One sheep’s worth more than a highland score……
It was good to hear about how the poor won, without blood, for what was right.
What a beautifully told story Bruce. And from the point of view of the women involved as well! That honestly takes a truly objective standpoint. Most members of the opposite sex can't do that (that means women too!) so I'm impressed! I was born into a family who would've been on the boat. As I grew older, I started to firmly stand with those on the shore! Now, as a senior citizen who has been wooed and badly hurt by both sides, I understand that we are all people who deserve to live a life, not just survive. Just surviving happens on both sides. This story is well over one hundred years old. It bothers me that not much has changed. The generation coming up is keenly aware of this. Perhaps they will finally do better. Folks like you and me raised them to believe in better. When that happens, the boat will bring welcome guests who will be greeted warmly on the shore! We all need each other. 😊
Let's hope for better days
The shopkeeper in the background has the most beautiful smile
Greetings from Ireland ☘️☘️☘️
Is it not time to stop saying - Your Betters... They are no better than you or me!
I know that, you know that or at least, Scotsmen know that and ken fine well what the phrase means.
I would not like someone to call me their "better". It might start an accident.
Perhaps, like the phrase for the first "Alien" film (In Space, no one can hear you scream),....in the clearances, no recordings, few documents, few memorials :0
They arrived from Ullapool! I have visited, in 1990 -a nice town port - guid fish'n'chips, and sunset over the sea,
My family's been here in Ontario since the 1820s when my great-great-great-great grandfather was dispossessed in the Sutherland Clearances. Lost the land, kept the name. :) Those families founded Lanark and Renfrew counties here in the Ottawa Valley.
Love yer channel ma man but answer me jist a wee question, how does yersel see our wee land in 20 years. LOVE YER CHANNEL.👍💪
Bruce my Mansexual? Why in recent years have Scottish battles and Scottish origins of peoples become so hard to trace? Ten years ago all ancestry and battles were there for our own good! But now all history is being held from us or changed;? Ten years ago I could look up the thousands of battles and warfare Scotland have been involved in! Scroll ten years later on and Scotland is made out to be British/UK not much history before 1700's. I'm very Disappointed in this blending of unitedness. Actually makes me sick. And very very angry xxx Love you Darling! xxx
My family of Mackenzie's ended up in Nova Scotia during these clearances. I've always wondered if our Catholicism played a roll in the clearances as well. Eastern Nova Scotia where i'm from is predominantly Catholic and originally highland Scots.
My 15 time great grandfather is King James 2 king of Scotland
Interesting 👍🏼Thank you👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
You have a way of diplomatically explaining the history of the stories in a rare way. I appreciate how you go about it - to few folk in the world will take into account both sides of any story.
Thanks so much
I liked your story about leafleting for the Greens, I remember handing out leaflets for Independence, must have been the same toff in the Barbour jacket 🤣 he said I will most certainly not be voting for you lot, I'm a unionist and I vote UKIP. I said, so you want your independence as well then? 🤣On a serious note, I'm just as pro Green as Independence.
Very interesting history. Thank you.
I am a descendent of the clan Nicolson/MacNeacail and when I was in Skye at the Braes I wasn't surprised to hear it was a bunch of Nicolson/MacNeacail women who took on the Cops from Glasgow who had been sent to evict them - as having grown up seeing my own sisters fist fight regularly - one really wouldn't want to get in their way either.
By the way there are a large number of white Canadian Scots who are thinking about putting in an aboriginal land claim for a large portion of Scotland :)
I am not Neil , I am a roommate
Thank you for another excellant video .
Did you know that the heir of the Earl of Sutherland family lord strathnaver was found dead it was suspecous as he was found at the bottom of a cliff around the the time that Queen Elizabeth II died . ( The estates went into a trust .which likely could include Dunrobyn castle ) . His sisters are said to be in court .I don't know if it has been settled yet ? Does anyone know how this worked out ? .
Perspective; Hadrians Wall, barricade or defense?
The Scottish Greens, eh? Pity they no longer seem interested in environmental policies. They'll come to regret that at the next elections.
Of all the daft political kneejerk comments on this, there's sadly an element of truth to this one
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Lol, I think there's a back-handed compliment in there somewhere so I'll take it. FWIW, they've had my vote in the past, I'm not criticising you.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours And your pronouns ?
An interesting one in the sense of your story about them or is. It seems that there are many battles between them and us yet are very much the minority, yet those small battles after the majority that are on neither side as it has nothing to do with them. I’m one of those that grew up with the police always being somewhere else. Yet knowing if I did bad I could be visited by them. Not by what others said or done but by my own actions and being caught. I think there are many like us. Being called upon to take sides of those minority groups that need the support from the majority. And this is exactly how the Green Party got their power. A minority of people needing the majority whom had no real interest in what their politics are. And that’s why we see Scotland where it is today. Lending our vote to people we have no real idea about. As the saying goes. There’s 3 sides to every story. Mine, there’s and somewhere in the middle.
I don't think the right and wrong mattered to these people. Not having the land could mean starvation and death. They knew this. That was the motivation that mattered
"Can you put yourself in the minds of each group..." is such a powerful thing to say and I hope we can all step back from the brinkmanship of social media's digital mindset (i.e. it's either 1 or 0, wrong or right, the best or the worst, etc). Thanks Bruce, yer a guid loon
The story was going ok then you went of topic talking about modern politics green rubbish i think you were just filling up time it had nothing to do with the story you started
Hello Bruce thank you for another great video
The memorial reminds me of the Perun God alters found in northern Europe
Ty Mr Bruce.
Bruce your number 1 after the big yin he is ma fave.
Ah thanks
Just wanted to say I drove 3 hrs from Cape Breton to New Glasgow for the night to see Stories of Scotland and it was amazing. My wife and I loved it, my only regret is not sitting closer to the stage. Not like it helped me hide in the end anyway, the technical guy left a light on directly above us in the second half.
😂 Were you Superman? Hopefully next visit I'll manage to get a show sorted in Cape Breton. I loved it there
@@ScotlandHistoryTours yes that was me, same guy who's wife was looking at pics of her new grandbaby at intermission and forgot to shut it off 😆. I am glad you enjoyed Cape Breton and I would be dragging my friends for their own good if you ever have a show there.
@@caperknightMan, he has been on 3 miles down the road and I never thought I would enjoy it.
Maybe I'll get another chance.
The Scottish Greens! Really?😂
Grow up🙄
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Humor Bruce !
@@jcoker423 Aye, it's never been my strong point
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Politics! What happened to being polite about politics (same root word?).
Your video's are absolutely brilliant. Thank-you.
I'm completely surprised that there would be Highland clearance activity still happening as recently as the mid-1800s. Even after watching so many of your videos it still is hard to imagine that the British still endeavored their best to move as many Scotts from their own land as possible. Part of me still wants to say it couldn'tve happened.
For that matter I'm even more surprised that such activity would have gone on during the reign of Queen victoria. I mean by all outward appearances and according to modern historical leanings one would get the idea that both her and Albert were much more progressive thinkers than that.
So, why would they also in turn want to foster and put forth such egregious activity?
Oh aye the summer isles. Is Mr Iain Wace still doing work on tanera mor?
In the US, our Supreme Court has decided that our police have no intrinsic duty to protect. Let that sink in for a moment.
Good grief!
@@janetmackinnon3411 Right?
Excellent video. Highlights how the problem is much more systems rather than individuals yet still recognizes that the consequences for those in more powerful positions are most often much lighter than for the less powerful. Also great at drawing modern parallels to policing today. A work of art
I won't change my politics Bruce because they're not set. But I do go by accurate information and the climate catastrophe alarms have been dealt with some time ago now, that "science" was proven unsound and the scientist themselves later admitted it was flawed, however there was an alternative group who saw by using this flawed information to their advantage they could take control of a world they did not build; Like Commodus they had simply inherited the family silver not bought it and like him they did not respect what there was or how it was achieved, they intend to pull it down.
However, there is no excuse to further pollute our globe, nor to think it is ours to do as we wish - we are mere custodians for future generations. And whilst Westerners watch what they do, China, Russia and India were excused from that accord and do they wish polluting our planet at an exponential rate. Perhaps the environmentalists can have a word and ask nicely over tea if the chaps from the East could behave themselves and please not stick themselves to the street and abuse art.
Wow! You really went to Crazytown with that😂😂
Is that Gaelige written on your hoody ? 😂
Gàidhlig - Gaeilge is Irish.
Love your channel - but "climate calamity" - urgh, please no...
Anyone that watches this video will see that I'm tryibng to highlight balaning viewpoints about an emotive event, not trying to push any political opinion.
You lost all credibility when you mentioned voting for the Scottish Greens.
Stop being silly
Bruce did you have fun in Nova Scotia?? Bruce and Crew this was really what I wanted. As a West Coast girl I love every west coast around the world its wavy Rrr. I truly feel you answered a requests of my a few years back , about more female stories of Scottland So thats the West Coast Female heros plus a great place to hang. Thats a 3 in one vid. I just love that style that you do. Huggies everyone & a Kiss to Bruce
Greens are a let down
Excellent! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you sir
Mon the Saints
Great video! Great history lesson! I like that you presented the story from different points of view. It helps us understand the complexities of the story. I wish your tour would come to the US!
Well, as a descendant of the Clearances, did my Great X 4 Grandparents have more opportunities in America? Maybe, maybe not.
Hello Bruce🌷🕊
Hello 👋
Are dreadlocks Scottish?
Is hair Scottish?
I saw the show in Halifax! It was great to meet you, My ancestors were actually named Hay/Hunter...I had to look them up again... on closer inspection, of course, they were from Fife!!! 🤦♂
😂
Bruce. I think my position on the rozzers has moved away from Mr Barbour Jacket (I don't think I was ever that "entitled") and fully towards to other end of the spectrum.
Funny that you're touring Canada which still retain the military police (you mentioned military force), the RCMP, a legacy of Empire. Wheras Britain doesn't/didn't have a military police. The mounties have lost their shine of late...can't think why for a moment 😉
i have never had a police interaction go good even when i call them
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The exception that proves the rule. It's the Exceptional people that Scotland needs today, as does everywhere else. Try looking in on Salvo and Liberation Scotland. They are free and non political research groups that have critical information about Scotland as a nation that will crack open the myth of the "UK".
You're a great story-teller Bruce...Look forward to meeting you in Montréal later this month
Wow, that was a lot of "McLeods" and you weren't even talking about Skye.
sometimes difficulties seem insurmountable but they turn out for the best, it was horrible and in humane however many Scots went to the new world and prospered, the cream always rises to the top!
Except for the ones who didn't survive the voyage of course, and there were plenty of those
If you compare the specific gravity of cream to that of turds, you will find the turds float on top of the cream. So true in life...
Thanks!
Thank YOU
Thanks!
Huge thanks
By ' betters' do you mean lackeys of the 'given ' landowners. Who gave them the land??
I should have thought it was clearly an ironic title for the nobility
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Clearly spoken like a true lackey, he said ironically
@@michaelbolger745 Aye, right😁😁
4:01 Oh no! The landing party has arrived! Is there gonna be a confrontation?? (Behind you to the right.)
EDIT: 4:51 It's just one man, and his dog.
A wonderful story ❤ Our destiny is in our own hands 🏴🏴🇪🇺🇪🇺
What does your shirt say?
scotland-history-tours.creator-spring.com/listing/larger-gaelic-language-hoodie
Thanks
Big thanks
Thanks!
Ah thanks
Interesting that this story speaks only of the women resisting. Where were the men while this was happening?
Standing in the background. The consequenses for them would have been different
Thanks for the confirmation. I speculated that it would have been "blades and blood", not happy for anyone.@@ScotlandHistoryTours
@@ScotlandHistoryTours A good point. I think that if it had been the men on the beach, seizing the lawmen and burning the rips - military force would have been authorized. Or at least, a real risk that someone would have been killed on one side or the other.
I'm not one for confrontation, but as a proud dyed-in-the-wool peasant, taking a side is a no-brainer. Even today, I tend to see the police as a club in the hands of the privileged, not as a force for justice or for my protection.