DOCTOR SAYS CARNIVORE INFLUENCERS SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL? - Dr Westman Reacts
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- Should doctors go to JAIL for recommending a #carnivore diet? Should it be a CRIME to advise eating this way? 🚫 Or is this just #plantbasedbias striking again?
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If bad advice was a jailable offence there would be MANY doctors behind bars.
95% of them. only about 5% know the truth about a proper human diet. They are all deceived and deceive
Including Dr. Furman
The doctor or the University that forced the doctrine?
Nuremberg Code, for example.
Amen.
If carnivore diet influencers should be put in jail then we should also jail the lobbyists working for the sugar production industry- they do far more damage!
And vegans! I say jail everyone who says they're a vegan! haha
Not as much as animal Ag .
40 % of the earth's lungs the Amazon will be gone in the next few decades , 80 % due to 🐂.
@@CaptainSteve777Vegans are the only group in the normal BMI range and enjoy improved health outcomes in most areas cancer , heart diseases etc etc .
@@julienfroidevaux1143that's not true at all. I've met many fat vegans eating nearly 100% processed foods. What magazine did you read that from? Ridiculous! Nothingg is every 100%..lol
@@dana102083 Another Carnivore anecdotal claim amazing 💪.
I did not read it in a " magazine " one of many sources includes pub med , with citations .
Might want to be more knowelgable first if you want to try to debunk somebody ?
I never saw my mother eat any veggies,she lived to 101 yrs old.
But id bet u seen her eat plenty of meat.
She ate them in secret.
I don't want to live longer I want to live better.
I've thought that as well.
yep, and only if living better leads to living longer, living longer has any value.
there is a fictional disease (in an kid's comic) that make you immortal at the price that you have to constantly eat your own meat and permanent anguish if you dont. that a clear example how low the value of a long life has objectively while disregarding life quality.
I want both.
What ever happened to simply disagreeing with somebody? This cancel culture, put them in jail culture crap has got to stop. It's a slippery slope, give them an inch they will take a mile.
I hear what you’re saying. But lots of child molesters think it’s ok in their opinion.
He is a zealot. Horrid man too. I have met him long ago.
@@emh8861 i get your point but that's an incredible reach that doesnt have relation to this
@@emh8861 it's different. Totally different topics, totally different scenarios. it does nothing but cheap in the argument.
do you know about recent yt guidance about aligning with who on misinformation etc..
soon the channels like dr baker's or dr berry's might be negatively affected..
I think it's time to look for another platform before such channels will be gagged or deleted...
When your arguments are low quality your only option is to prevent others from speaking.
Exactly
He also quoted 7th Day Adventist's studies. They are against meat so what does he expect?
Pretty much. Unfortunately the USDA has so much power medical school lecturers have to teach eat grains and avoid saturated fats to medical students, and doctors not giving these official dietary guidelines will not be covered by insurance if sued.
I can't find any research Dr. Fuhrman has done on the carnivore diet at all.
He sells LOTS of plant-based products, including books he has written, & SUPPLEMENTS! There's your money shot there! Big bucks in supplements ay?
So what supplements do carnivores need? I've started taking daily electrolytes actually since yesterday, to see if that will help with finger & toe cramps. Trying to drink more water too. I hate liver & kidney, but I can cop paté alright spread on some well cooked meat! I'm feeling fine a few weeks in. But I don't think I need any supplements!
I've not been the perfect carnivore every single day, but 96% of the time I am! Maybe more accurately I should call myself a ketovore? And if I err it's like a teaspoon of raw sugar in my coffee at a friend's house, instead of my stevia.
I eat eggs, bacon, maan I love bacon! A lot of beef mince or ground beef, lamb, pork chops sometimes. Those big ole ribeye steaks look yummo, but are a bit expensive. I should splurge one day & buy one. I'd probly marinate it & bake it. I've gotta have my meat fully cooked right through with zero blood or pink, or I can't eat it. Ew! Even burnt a bit is ok. Up to 6 eggs with meat mostly.
I use use onion & garlic a lot, & I throw in a small carrot in quite often. I also use peeled tomatoes & tomato paste. I make curries with coconut sometimes. They are the only veges I eat, & they seem ok; I really used them for years. There's oxalates in tomato paste & seeds, but it seems my system is ok with it. Maybe I may try removing all these for a bit, but I really like them for their flavours.
But Dr. Fuhrman should not be making such idiotic, inflammatory statements about the carnivore diet. He clearly has conflicts of interest since he SELLS the stuff he promotes.
I'll be open-minded, I'll accept people could be healthy on a considered, supplemented plant-based diet with no meat intake. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's the ONLY way to eat! According to Fuhrman, it is the only way. Meh, no.
Ancient & prehistoric humanoids were overwhelmingly carnivores according to research cited by Dr. Anthony Chaffee, using some kind of analysis on their teeth & bone. So I'm not gonna listen to anything this guy says at all. He's way too dismissive & one eyed, & his aggression pollutes my thinking, which I can do without. His plant-based diet my be ok, but he still has idiot ideas, which negate everything else.
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Nobody mentioned sugar and cancer. Cancer has always been blamed on red meat.
Yes yes yes!
…though knowing what leads to cancer is damaged/fermented mitochondria in cells, in other word inflammation from plants, oils, fruits and sugars.
@@GuitarNewz
Absolute B.S. More people in the west get cancer and heart disease. They Eat alot of MEAT AND DAIRY. Thats your bad boys. In other parts of the world where they have low rates of heart disease and cancer. They eat diets HIGH IN WHOLEFOOD CARBS. A little meat/fish. And alot of fruits and veg..
Yep by the suger companies lol
Don't you know why red meat is responsible for nearly all colon or bowel cancer? It happens because the body can't break down red meat properly. So waste lodged in the colon and intestines. Especially in fools who don't eat enough fibre which is most Americans. Then over time it can putrify and go change the cells in that area of the body. And thats when these cancers start. Dairy causes alot of PROSTATE cancer.
I’ve been on carnivore for 4 years and it restored my health. At 79 I feel better than ever.
I've been CARNIVORE for over 4 years. I eat one meal a day most days. I'm 74 years old. I wore glasses at 42 years old. I don't wear glasses any more. My PTSD has diminished greatly. My leg used to ache. It doesn't hurt anymore. I sleep deep. My inner peace has increased. This doctor may be right. I wouldn't change my diet even if it kills me. I feel to peaceful and I have no pain. I'll stay on this plan until I die. I wish Dr. Furman well.
Same oppinion, i rather choose a well functioning life than a prelonged miserable condition.
you are good because you are eating OMAD. Even if you throw in garbage the body will have adequate time to clear that out.
most of the goodness you are deriving from your food is from your limited intake & not due to it being carnivore. The same carnivore diet if you eat 5-6 times a day then your body will start to give troubles. Having said all these , I must also mention that this is my hunch from my continuous experiment with food & learnings from experts & simple logic.
@@utubevenky Clearly you haven’t tried Keto, IF, or Carnivore. It’s not about Calories - WHAT you eat matters - even when. I eat as much protein of various types as I want, eating until I’m “comfortably stuffed” as Dr. Ken Berry puts it, and I’m never hungry or feel the deprivation of other previous diets.
Bravo! That’s wonderful
HARDCORE CARNIVORE. 👍
Doctors don't have patients, they have customers. Carnivore for a while now and feel better than ever.
West man is a Doctor. 🤣
Correct....a patient cured is a customer lost
Yes he is. At Duke University
@@emh8861 whOOOOOOsh 🙄
@@emh8861 one that completely ignored many of Furhmans talking points! Just ignored him! Great doc. Seems to be promoting his lose weight business?
People who are confident in their beliefs do not want their opponents jailed.
I had a copy of Fuhrman’s book “Eat to Live” and ate a high vegetable, low fat meat diet for many years. I maintained my weight around 165 and thought I was doing pretty well. (Edit 1/13/24: I gained in 2018 and started Keto @ 173) Then I tried Keto in January 2019. I lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks and felt satiated! Then I continued to lose and by August had lost 40 pounds! PAINLESSLY, btw.
In January 2022, having maintained my loss, I went more fatty meat and much less veggies - I lost another 15 pounds in two months and now maintain THAT ever since.
Oh yeah, and I feel amazing and virtually never crave Carbs!
I threw out my Fuhrman book…😉
Okay, this is me doing some math here. You lost 10 pounds. Then lost 40 pounds. Then you lost another 15 pounds. So, all total, you lost 65 pounds. Wow, that's a lot of tonnage! Congratulations.
@@redburtley6021so from 165 pounds down to 100 pounds.
100 pounds sounds terrible unless you’re a midget.
55 lbs
Something ain't right here
Furman promotes a vegan diet, now that criminal
Notice how viciously he attacks carnivore or animal based diets but says nothing about the harmful effects of a SAD diet or high sugar diet? Furman is a fraud. Ironically he is the one destroying people's health and spreading misinformation.
AMEN.
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Amen.
You go my Do-Wopping Sister!!!!! I cannot agree more!!
I watched a smart doctor in a white coat on RUclips years ago and started low carb. Lost 50 pounds in the middle of menopause and it’s still off 8 years later. Switched from Keto to carnivore just to see what would happen in my lipid panel. My LDL dropped 56 points. My HDL went into the 90’s and my triglycerides are now in the 30’s. My GP knows all about this way of eating and is cheering me on . Thank you!! Your advice has truly changed my life.
Awesome. What changes did you see in your weight?
Woot! Woot! You go girl!
Looking fabulous I'd like to add!
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica I’ve dropped about two pounds so far but I was already at my goal weight when I started. It wasn’t a huge change for me as I didn’t eat a lot of vegetables or “Keto” products. I continued having coffee also.
AWESOME...!!! : ) -70SomethingGuy
You fit the definition of Lean Mass Hyper Responder, as often discussed by Dr. Ken Berry.
Way to go!
If carnivore influencers should be jailed, then too should doctors and lawyers, who, by their very profession, are liars.
Yes...but they have power, money & friends in high places.
Harriet Hall, a founder of Science-Based Medicine, a website owned and operated by the New England Skeptical Society, reviewed Fuhrman's Nutritarian diet and commented that he tends to incorrectly assume association studies show causation and that his diet has not been tested in controlled trials. Hall stated that "Fuhrman makes extraordinary claims for the Nutritarian diet, but extraordinary claims must be supported by extraordinary evidence, and the evidence he presents is far from compelling."
Arrogance is usually easy to spot.
So is poor health. Fuhrman is 65 but look nearly 80. He has the typical angry, bitter demeanor of an unhealthy, starving, self-righteous vegan.
@@jagnyy5444 I just can't judge what's inside another person's head.
@@johnsposato5632 He literally stated he wants to put doctors in jail. What part of that confuses you?
@@jagnyy5444 Have you ever said something like, "If you hit me with that thing again, I'm going to shove it down your throat."?
It's hyperbole.
That man needs m e a t. Those humans thinking they are designed to graze are often so angry.
Those people that I follow re carnivore have not only reduced their weight, gotten rid of skin problems, diabetes, inflammation but also look years younger. This guy is THE PROBLEM.
I do notice too when I stay carnivore and don't eat anything with fibers or with strange ingredients (I still like processed meats from time to time) I break out. The meats I get are gluten and soy free but they do have a few other things that might be bothering me.
I couldn't sustain Furhman's plans for long. Also, vegan eating damaged my teeth and caused osteoporosis, weakened muscles and 30 lb. weight gain.
He sure doesn’t look that young or healthy! I hope he sees the light, for his, and his family’s sake!
He actually looks like he NEEDS to try carnivore
Yes carnivore anecdotal claims is science .💪
28:02: “Nice to see Dr. Fuhrman on a video, not in person again.”
Savage, I love it 🤣🤣
Carnivore saved my life literally. I suffered from congestive heart failure, diabetes, arthritis, declining cognitive functions, acid reflux, and several other symptoms. Within months, I was off all medications and feeling great again. To think 7 years ago, if I had continued to follow what the American Heart Association, American Diabetes Association, and others that are similar, I would have been dead now for over 6 years.
Wow. Save the congestive heart failure, you are me. I do have a problematic valve and my doctor told me it is normal for oldies... only it isn't normal for a person with familiar story of strokes and heart attacks. She told me to diet, which means eat more veggies.
I was looking for the options and here I am. Started carnivore yesterday. Not full yet because I want to transition slowly to it by uping meat and reducing carbs.
about half of those arent symptoms
@@tec-jojo6424The story doesn't seem credible as he didn't mention he was previously vegan .
Everything in moderation!!
@@julienfroidevaux1143 How does being fat and unhealthy feel? Do you feel betrayed by the food pyramid yet?
I once watched a talk that Dr. Joel Fuhrman did on vegan diets. Afterwards people lined up to ask him questions. I have never ever seen someone so arrogant and rude. The only people he was polite to were those interested in paying for his vegan program. Horrid little narc. He is not interested in helping/ healing people. His goal is profit.
He has a God complex
I know him and he’s nothing but an opportunist 😡
I tried to read a book of his years ago. I deleted it from my Kindle!
You can’t make money from healthy people, make them sick, and addicted to drugs! 🤑🤑🤑
@@a.macdonald4877 exactly.
The lesson I have learned is to never to apologize. Especially when you have not done anything wrong.
Exactly! Fk that
As a Canadian I just laughed as they say we all say "sorry" for everything. Sometimes we should and often not:)
@@kahearne5361I'm trying really hard to only say it when I mean it and call myself out on my canadianisms.. I stopped being as sarcastic as well as I replaced with positive sounding thoughts.
@@kahearne5361sorry to hear about that condition, the brits have it too :D
I agree a 100%.
It's interesting that these so-called professionals are saying people should go to jail....I guess they think they are immune from they themselves possibly being judged as jail worthy???
The hubris is truly breathtaking 🙄
He works for the WEF
Imagine being a doctor who has made themselves willingly ignorant by having contempt for something before investigating it.
If I ate a bagel my sugar would go off the charts. I would never listen to this guy. Thank you Doctor Westman ❤ I’m 70and l will listen to you and Doctor Ken Berry. I have never felt so good in my life.
I love Ken Berry
Sure, but a bagel? That fits into the ultra-processed refined category. Fuhrman wouldn't encourage you to eat that. Neither would Dr. Westman. FYI: my husband is reversing diabetes on a low fat whole food plant based diet. I never thought it would be possible, but his A-1c results tell the story.
Neither would Dr. Shawn Baker! 😊 it’s great that your husband is doing much better. Any diet that improves health in anyway is good in my opinion.
@@lindalarue1722Difficult to break down carbs maintain the blood sugar high for a very long time. 4 hours+ that's not a good thing. that causes cardiovascular damage
Arguably its better to just have your refined (simple sugars) and move on with your day.
Still working on studying to confirm that. FWIW complex carbs rots your teeth faster
2 of the best i agree 👍
Remember when doctors pushed a high carb, low fat diet? And eggs were almost poison?
Doctors get returning customers when they keep you sick.
to this day some people are afraid of eating 🥑avocadoes 🥑 because they are *HORROR SCREAM* high fat!
@@IonTroneI no longer eat them because they contain oxalates - even a VERY ripe one has about what the kidneys can manage in a day. A firm one has about X5 that, and overloads the kidneys pretty badly. Not for me, thanks. But a hunk of butter, yay.
Egg whites and margarine for me pls
And margarine was healthy and butter was bad? And there is both good and bad cholesterol even though there is only one single molecule in different packaging? And cholesterol causes heart disease? And cancer is caused by genetic mutations? I am convinced that allopathic medicine is more superstition than science. They weed out independent thinkers in the admissions process, leading to the hive mind we see today.
Whenever someone says, "The Science Says", red flags go up in my mind.
I was 240 pounds I did carnivore for a year I'm down to 192. I look great and feel great and I'm ripped this guy should be put in jail.
My first husband was on a strict VEGAN diet for nearly two years. Friends and family kept asking if he was undergoing chemo because he got so skinny. Then he lost feeling in his extremities and had to see a neurologist. They thought he had multiple sclerosis. He luckily started reading a cookbook that referred to Weston Price. He finally started eating meat again and got weekly B-12 shots and reversed his severe malnutrition from his Vegan diet. Scary!! I have to admit that he did go to Dr. Joel Fuhrman in Flemington, NJ and he really believed in him. It almost killed him!
So glad he woke up and got out of that death trap. It's criminal what Fuhrman and others are suggesting with veganism. What they teach is not backed on any research or proof, and they are liars.
The vast majority of the 43 million food borne illnesses and 5000 deaths in the US each year are in non vegans and caused by animal products or animal based contamination. So what if one moron can’t put together a healthy plant based diet. Tens of thousands of plant-based individuals do just fine over decades of living. 🤔
For health reasons I went total vegetarian, vegan, raw foods, for over five years. However, for me, things went from bad to worse. The turning point was when, after a blood panel, my doctor told me to reduce my red meat intake and exercise more. Well, if being a vegan and hiker wasn’t enough, then what was the use? I introduced meat back into my diet, reduced the sugars and carbs and wouldn’t you know it, everything started getting better. My next blood panel proved I was on the right track. The doctor then had to admit she was doing the same thing and that’s why she was already off three of her four meds (she was twenty years younger than me), and loosing weight, too. I’m 73 and do not need any medications.
I know a group of vegans same. Long term emaciation. Women almost looking mummified in their 60's & the men were quite bloated in the face. They were very strict seventh day Adventist and into Ellen White's healthy eating model.
Friend and I followed Furhman for years. Lost weight and energy and was miserable the whole time. The friend looked skeletal and got cancer despite the promises. Sure if it works for you great but I don't buy it anymore.
With hindsight, I can honestly say that over my lifetime (pushing 7 decades), doctors have caused me far more harm than good. The lack of integrity in the health care system that became blatantly obvious in the spring of 2020 is what began my search for answers that eventually led me to carnivore. Lo and behold, a number of conditions that I had accepted as "age-related" and wasn't even focused on just happened to resolve themselves -- so thankful that I wasn't steered away by the so-called "experts." I'd rather have ten more years feeling as well as I do now than thirty more years being miserable like I was before carnivore. That said, I fully anticipate a longer and far healthier life ahead of me than I did three years ago.
Same here, western medicine and medical doctors have also caused me more harm than good, in the long run. I'm still recovering from an iatrogenic illness caused by a medication prescribed by my doctor. So much suffering from side effects and other consequences, it nearly took my life, twice. I no longer visit a doctor unless I absolutely have to, and then I take what they say with a grain of salt and do my own research before following their advice or taking their pills. The last time I took an anti-biotic it cured my gum infection, but a whole string of other negative effects flowed on from the imbalance caused by the pills, causing all kinds of issues which lasted months. I should have let my infection heal by itself, which is what I usually do. Safely back on a meat based keto diet now, and feeling better already.
Well of course they have! Law of Attraction in action!
I found most doctors just want you the hell out of their office. Got symptoms? Here take some pills that do... something. Get out. They dont actually care about the people they are "treating". Not all ofc, there are some good ones out there but they are rare.
That's literally what lead me to just start this way of life. I already was against artificial sugars colors and flavors but then I started doing more research into plants and all of the vegetable oils and they are basically poisons for us.
A rancher in Alberta who has been a carnivore for 65 years, raised 10 children the same way. And, she looks amazing. I thought she was maybe in her fifties, she's actually 82 years old. Her skin is flawless, and she still works long hours every day on the ranch. She is the picture of health.
I had followed a careful, clean vegetarian diet to try to lose weight & get healthier. I got worse. Still believing in plant-based nutrition, I went raw. Developed a ton of food allergies and still lost no weight. Went back to an omnivore diet. Began eliminating foods that were causing allergic reactions & ended up carnivore. Lost over 30 lbs quite quickly, felt great, pain mostly eliminated.
Eventually, I added some veggies back in to my diet and very quickly gained back the weight (and more) and pain & inflammation is back.
Should we put the whole Arctic population in jail ? :)
Let's get all those Inuit people in there, come on Inuit, here we go, single file, single file! In the jail sell with you!
This American Eskimo has been watching this whole "let's eat bugs and veggies" and I laughed and realized these people live in their egos and fantasy world. Beluga whale is the very best by the way.😉
I’m up for whale!👍🏻👏🏻😃
@@hans-jurgenwiegand7465 🐋🐳🐋🐳🐋 thin sliced with Pilot Bread mmmm....mm!!!
@@doobybro1207 You do you I guess. I can't stand the thought of eating whale only because of its endangered status, not so much that I think it would be gross. I'm actually pretty brave when it comes to trying new food.
I had a major heart attack 7 years ago. I’ve since gone meat heavy keto and now for the last year, carnivore, why have all my labs greatly improved so that even my cardiologist says I should keep doing this. What do you say about that, Doc?
Congrats!
The guy clearly has an ideology and his stances aren't based in reality or science: cherry picking studies and results; distorting and eliminating truth and nuance. He's a snake oil salesman at best, and at worst, you can fill in the gap.
@@hugoanderkiviyep. Sadly these Vegan influencers have been ramping up their lies recently. Is it coincidentally after the WEF and Bill Gates have started pushing the banning of meat and animal products blaming them on the hoax of ‘man-made’ climate change, which has nothing to do with methane or CO2, is a natural cycle, and isn’t an emergency ? I guess they fund these Vegan influencers and groups to ramp things up to brainwash the public. It’s all about controlling the food supply and making people sick and then reducing populations, making money on medications treating the sick and malnourished, and also so Bill can sell his fake ‘meat’ and fake lab ‘eggs’ which will cause cancers and malnourished and cause other harm to the public. I asked a producer of a top Vegan documentary where the biggest funding came to make the documentary, and he said they wanted to be anonymous. I asked if billionaire philanthropists were involved and he said yes but couldn’t give names. I told him he didn’t need to tell he any more 😉
I just cannot bear this guy. Insulting people instead of presenting a solid fact based argument shows he has doubt in his own words. He needs to be a bit more humble.
I am a carnivore, and my health has never been better. All, yes all my issues that I had are now resolved. So he should be rewarded not jailed.
There are a lot of doctors that would obliterate this guy in a debate, Dr. Ben Bikman and Dr. Paul Mason are two that immediately come to mind.
Paul Mason is the GOAT!
I'm sure Dr. Ali would also have something to add in there.
Also, Bart Kay
OOh, I would love to see a debate between Paul Mason & Fuhrman
Im confident with Dr. Ken Berry! I just love common sense against egos!😂
Furry-man is a fearmonger. I've proved it in my own life that Atkins, keto, and carnivore have given me the best quality of life when I have adopted these ways. We all must take responsibility for our own healthy existence in this world. I am nearing 70 yrs. old...
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Dr. Westman you are such a gentleman! My blood was boiling listening to Dr. F but you gave calm clear rebuttals!
How about the doctors promoting toxic pharmaceutical prescriptions/vaccines?
I was a vegan for six and a half years. Also a vegetarian a year and a half before going vegan. The worst diet ever hungry. All the time had stomach problems, skin problems, teeth problems, problems with mood. I was tired all the time. Couldn't get enough nutrients. Been carnivore for 16 months. I feel great. I do not eat. No plans, no fruits. People get caught up in the vegan cult and a believe whatever they're told
I feel good too since i changed my diet. And the biggest surprise is... anxiety GONE, depression thougts GONE, joints pain GONE... all those symptoms started when i was vegetrian 😢 I also notice that my sleeps are way better and waking up early too, with energy. 😊 No more brain fog. I have started carnivore diet 5 weeks ago and happy! My skin also change, for better. I am impress. 😊
they are paid activists to push the vegan agenda
Sugar addicts.
Vegans are trying to force a non-biological reality onto their bodies, just like people who have sex change operations. They're pushing a fantasy world view trying to conquer their DNA. It's like they're giving the middle finger to God saying no, you did it wrong, we're doing it my way and it's going to work. Yeah good luck with that.
Furman is one in a long line of plant based gurus that look so frail that its surprising that he can hold his head up straight. So sad that many worship people that look like him, he's made a fortune selling books.
I was a total vegan 3 months and it nearly killed me. I am 3 months carnivore now and I am thriving like never before. Diabetes almost gone without many meds. If I dont eat carbs I am not diabetic.
Buuuuuuuuuulshiiiiiiiit.
@@SpartanV41Carnivore cures everything .
No negative outcomes can ever occur with this diet .
@@SpartanV41 Fat people will find any reason they can to cling on to the habits that made them fat. How are those refined sugars treating you?
I tried carnivore for 3 months and I couldn't stop pooping my pants. It was disgusting. People said my body odor was a mix between rotten fish and someone who voted for Trump. In other words, disgusting. I stopped and as the toxic meat products left my body, my mood became better. People stopped avoiding me because of my smell and I no longer have to wear a diaper. Women frequently come up to me now and ask me if I will have sex with them, which if I am not too busy, I try to oblige. I am a big believer in giving too others.
My cardiologist was shocked at the improvements in my blood profile when I was 6 months on Keto. Since then I have gone to carnivore and my blood glucose has even gotten better. He told me to keep doing what I am doing since my profile looks so good.
"Mr Know it All" starts with the theory that Meat and Fish dont have Micronutrients. When countered that Liver is the most micro-nutrient dense food he shifts to Phytonutrients. Doesnt answer the question😂
@@anand45671 thats how zealots do
Mark Bell: asks a question about the micronutrient content of animal products.
Dude goes on a side tangent about broccoli completely avoiding the question.
Pretty huge red flag early on
Your patience and tolerance for outright lies and stupidity is admirable.
I totally agree, kudos to Dr. Westman for listening to "Dr." Furman's drivel.
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
― Bertrand Russell
Wow that guy on the podcast is scary! Thank you for a dose of reality. Your humble and honest information on the studies is very refreshing. Thank you!
I gave up after that guy said a piece of chicken and bagel are the same. 🤣😂
On a fundamental level, he shows up vibe-wise as a person who has a core animosity against just being at peace.
Indeed.
Agreed a very prickly individual
It shows you how radical many of these vegan activists are. They continue to up the anti in their rhetoric against keto and carnivore diets. When they are losing the argument, they become more hostile.
Follow the money!!
True.
@@ianstuart5660Animal Ag , yes .
Veganism is a religion, not a diet. Some call it a cult.
@@ianstuart5660for this doctor it may be more about his political beliefs in the animals rights activism and climate change theory than metabolic health.
Don't worry Dr. Westman. We fully support you and other doctors supporting keto and low carbs diet. As Alice Hoffman said: "Once you know some things, you can't unknow them. It's a burden that can never be given away."
You have helped a lot of people including myself to reverse my type 2 diabetes, borderline high cholesterol, hypertension, severe fatty liver, auto-immune disease, among others without the help of any big pharma, big corporate medicines who are in the business of not really making sure people are healthy but in the business of taking advantage of the people in enriching their lives and businesses. Kudos to all of you, Dr. Eric Westman, Dr. Eric Berg, Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Jason Fung, Dra. Rojo, and all the medical doctors and people who supported keto and LC and risking their careers and professions just to tell the truth and expose these evils and lies about our health. We will always include you in our prayers. May God bless all of you and your families!
My mind immediately goes to all of the golden era bodybuilders from 1960s-70s who are mostly still alive and strong and crushing it at 70-80+ years old.
I ended up with two cardiac stents trying to follow Dr. Fuhrman’s diet. Maybe he should go to jail
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I had married friends who were both practicing a macrobiotic diet. The husband very nearly died because of the diet. So maybe Fuhrman is the one who belongs in jail (as long as he is acting as a judge).
14 years ago, I was writing a 15 page paper about phytoestrogens from soy and synthetic estrogenic by products such as BPA. It was almost impossible to find any information until the 4th or 5th page on any search engine, and almost all of it was "fringe research" and was not peer reviewed. This was mostly due to big soy and big pharma threatening to take away funding from any university who dared to publish this kind of research. This dr should have his liscense revoked for medical malpractice imo
Seventh day Adventists own most of the soy industry and pay no taxes as they're a church. Therefore they're in charge of any funding into their own studies. Therefore there are no studies with negative outcomes. They also basically run the dieticians association Australia mob. Probably American too.
Money and power makes the world go around.
My friends daughter was a vegetarian. She was skinny, gray, had bad skin and looked sickly all the time. As soon as she started eating meat again after years of not eating it, she had color, she looked healthy, her skin improved.
This is soooo infuriating and hysterical at the same time. That man is simply ridiculous. 🤦♀️
I really like and respect Dr Westman because he’s respectful, informative, interesting, backs up his statements, and comes across as a genuinely nice person. All the traits that Dr Fuhrman should learn.
Exactly! The contrast between the two in respect and approach here in this short video alone is incredible!
"All the traits that Dr Fuhrman should learn."
That's very hard being a vegan. Sadly this pseudo-diet affects the brain in a very negative manner...
Wow, they must really be scared of people getting healthy.
Thank you Dr Westman for trying to put things right.
My dietician said that is why I feel faint when I don't eat first thing in morning
I am a retired nurse. In the height of the low fat scam, 2 of my coworkers started a low fat diet. They lost weight, lost their hair, skin looked like leather, was always broke buying the low fat 'foods'. They lost weight. Stopped the diet, gained all weight and some. Their hair did not come back. Skin still looked horrible. I also worked with vegan, vegetarians, same look. I went on Atkins over 20 years ago. Controlling my weight, lots of energy, working circles around these people. Now on carnivore and still doing great!!! Lots more to this story but to want to jail people for being healthy is totally ridiculous! I have a right to pursue happiness in this country and WHO DOES THIS DOCTOR THINK HE IS!!! He should measure his words carefully.
I'm an RN too, never bought into the low fat scam-replaced it with sugar, what did people think would happen? Always figured natural foods, butter, eggs, meat and real vegs was the best. Never agreed with Statin use either, turns out I'm right on that too.
The people calling for jail for those with different dietary advice are wanna be tyrants and should absolutely be ignored and shunned.
This could be my story too, started in the 90's, slowly transitioned to carnivore. Best health ever at age 74.
@@mariesullivan317 😁aww. HARDCORE CARNIVORE.
@@jerimiahbrown9629 nice one lad 👍 HARDCORE CARNIVORE..
I followed Dr. Furman's diet for a few years. Got fat and sick and addicted. Now I'm ketovore and slim and healthy. No more carb cravings.
If u got fat and sick then you were not following it sorry. No one gets fat on a Nutritarian diet. It's virtually impossible
You are simply lying.There’s absolutely no change you get fat on his diet ‘as a matter of fact you lose 3 pounds of fat every week if you are fat to begin with
One of you two are a liar, which one?
@@alleyoop5185 do you’re own research
@alleyoop5185 I'm neither vegan or keto so I say Helen is lying because Fuhrman is far from being fat.
That doctor must work for weight watchers that destroyed 50 years of my life- Keto-Carnivore saved my life, helped me remove all my meds. Something is wrong with that Doc
He's part of the WEF agenda
If that’s the result, whoever comes up with the various countries food guides would all be behind bars.
Find long term vegans and long term carnivores and make up your own mind.
And check who is stronger... in Mexico the southerners eat more veggies and the northerners eat more meat... guess who is taller?!.
don't need to i can see in my own life what the keto/carnivore diet has done for me i was sick and dying eating vegan and now i am losing weight and fixing my health
And about 80% of vegans end up quitting for health reasons.😀
No need, those vegans who keep to it will eventually eat themselves to death😂
@@chriswhitehouse8982Of course they do. You simply cannot get all the nutrients you need on a Vegan diet. Not without supplements at least.
Furman looks like a perfectly healthy 96 year old. Good thing he found the fountain of youth in vegetables 😄
from the comments, it appears he sells some kind of vegan program and we have no way of knowing if he practices what he preaches.
I had a quadruple bypass in 2019 and my doctor told me has no trouble with me eating eggs and he is doing intimate fasting him self
So funny @DillaryHuff 😂
How old is he really ?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂I was looking at his receding hairline and Westman.
the longevity tests done on mice showed thatthey lived 30% longer when calorie restricted. BUT THE HUGE FLAW in the test was they were fed stuff that werent meant for them naturally. in short they were fed garbage. so ofcourse if you reduce the garbage intake(the very shit thats killing you) then you live longer. this was confirmed by a new study where mice were fed what they were naturally meant to eat and their lifespan was the same as those with restricted calories. i heard this info from dr chaffee i think.
That doctor said TWO things ABSOLUTELY CORRECT at 7:10 "The amount of Ignorance is INCREDIBLE. And the amount of FALSE INFORMATION given out to people is really QUITE DISTURBING."!!!!
If you have more than average muscle mass your risk of death decreases 200%. Furman should do something about that sarcopenia.
- not to mention that cerebropenia!
Dr Furhman has arms like pretzels and he has that anaemic skin colour that most plant based people have.
I would also expect that he has chronic elevated cortisol levels.
He looks as most vegans look: unhealthy.
I think he should look for his hairline.😂
Thank you Dr. Westman for your thoughtful response to Dr. Fuhrman's idiotic assertions. I started Keto a few years ago; lost over 50 lbs., got off blood pressure and acid reflux medications; i am no longer prediabetic; joints do not hurt much; my kidney dr. does not want to see me any more; my hdl is high, triglicerides low; but my physician still wants me to go on cholestoral meds because my LDL is "high". I ate lots of animal fats and yet lost fat. I have gone off "the diet wagon" eating pastries and ice cream recently and immediately gained fat on my body and had to go back to size 12 pants from size 12, and L from M tops (before going keto i wore size 18 and XL clothes). Next month i shall be 82 yrs. old. My goal is to be healthy when i die. So more carnivore and fewer vegetables from now on.
It's the pastries and icecream that are killing you, not the vegetables.
your ignorance supports your desired goals
Cool goal, keep it up. It feels good to be healthy.
Yep, I agree, that's a wonderful goal! I have not heard it stated that way before.
There's something quite deep about wanting to pass away healthy as opposed to giving in to some factors that can be somewhat controlled.
Wonderful mindset, and here's to wishing you another 10+ years of health (maybe a Centenarian even!)
I lost over 100lbs and cleared a partial blockage from my heart within a year of doing carnivore and my cardiologist also said they no longer wanted to see me anymore. Didn’t even test my LDL, just saw the weight loss and the cleared blockage on an EKG and said to come back if what brought me to the Cardio came back!
Eric I really enjoy your approach to the keto family. Thanks for your support.
That kind of rhetoric is so dangerous. 'People who think differently from me should be put in jail.' Extreme ideologue over here. Yikes.
Dr. Westman, I am really enjoying these response videos you have been posting. The way you carefully choose your words to be professional and diplomatic really get your message across. Keep up the good work and thank you!
I agree. It’s really helpful to hear critiques of these ‘experts’
Being on low carb has opened my eyes to much more than what I eat. It's opened my eyes to everything else they're trying to feed us!😉
Exactly!
@jimcricket1 They've done an exceptionally good job doing that, so far at least!
@@jimcricket1 do you have a link for that documentary. A whole bunch of unrelated stuff comes up when I search. I want to see it, thanks.
Strange how may cardiologist recommended to me that i reduce carb intake, i then responded that i was on a Keto diet and had been for some time. His response "Great, stay on it". I have lost over 60lb. I think that has increased my lifespan. I plan to shead another 20 to 30lb.
I am really amazed to learn that the lamb liver which I eat weekly contains no micronutrients!
Thanks Dr. Westman! I started carnivore 4 weeks ago and have lost 24 lbs, my blood pressure is back to normal and I’m sleeping so much better. Also exercising regularity too.
Your research is so appreciated!!!
Sadly you'll also probably get bowel cancer too - it's the exercise and less calories that makes you feel better - not eating just dead burned animal carcasses
@@philipfreyaborn8288ok groomer
You’re doing great, keep going the benefits I had are to many to list I’ve lost 105 lbs in one year 😊😊😊
@@philipfreyaborn8288you really need to educate yourself! Due to being clueless on this subject! Now go take your 20+ supplements 🙄🙄🙄
@@philipfreyaborn8288 So a food we've consumed since the dawn of our species (around 300,000 years ago) and that our ancestors consumed for at least 3 million years before that is harmful to us? Try again.
I wonder how this doctor would explain the success of the thousands of people doing carnivore diet and becoming a lot healthier, almost miraculous recoveries in health. I believe regular people more than scientist/doctors, they're the reason we are in the shape we are in. Trust the science they say....at your own peril.
Grass fed pastured pork belly is my favorite for a "calorie restricted, nutrient dense" meal! Second on my list is pasture-raised beef brisket. 😁 Nutrient dense, and I don't need a lot of it to fulfill my daily requirements.
Hey Do. Keep up the good work. Keep up the good fight. Thanks for all you do.
During menopause 5 years ago, I was desperately seeking relief through diet and nutrition. I chose Dr Furmans woe. My symptoms worsened to the point that I couldn’t sleep and my anxiety level upped to a full blown panic disorder. When I finally added meat back into my diet and limited fruits and vegetables, almost immediately my symptoms stopped, I was able to sleep and my anxiety went away. I now eat a balanced low carb diet with intermittent fasting 16/8 and I’m feeling so much better and healthier at the age of 56.
According to a 2021 study most medical doctors have taken an average of 11 hours of nutrition classes by the time they get their phd. Your regular doctor is taught and learns to treat symptoms NOT how to get at the root cause of the problem. I have literally met one doctor in my life that said hey we need to look at your diet and referred me to a nutritionalist. That was 38 pounds ago.
Never a truer statement made.
Well done.
Medical doctors don't get a phd, they get an M.D. They will only get a PhD if they actually do doctoral studies afterwards.
I have done those surveys and they have a plant based bias in their questioning.
I am new to this channel and think I am going to learn a lot. Who were the guys that were interviewing Dr. Fuhrman? I would be interested in hearing more of their interviews.
These hosts were so patient and polite and brought up very poignant arguments. They seemed a lot more sane than the doc. This makes me want to follow them! Thank you Dr. Westman for doing these videos where you dissect them point by point. I trust you because you know the nuances of how research is done and you actually have experience in it. It makes finding a doc I can trust really difficult....
Anyone who states that a person should be jailed for how they choose to eat is not mentally stable!
Exactly, the carnivore influencers should be put in reeducation centers. Putting them in jail would be crazy.
Shut up @@MusicByJC
@@Neightlive I think he was being sarcastic
Good point. Either he really believes it’s dangerous or his own business is threatened by the different eating ideas
Re eduction😂
We could make a very long list of who should go to Jail these days for bad advice or differences of opinions. This world is going crazy.
Not too sure how this is BAD ADVICE!? I have been diabetic for over 12 years and I have been on carnivore since January 8th 2024. I am no longer on insulin and I have lost over 55 pounds!! How does that seem to bad? The ADA suggestion for food would ensure I am always diabetic! Moderation, right? If we could do that we wouldn’t be talking now! When the food pyramid came out ant people went low fat the heart disease went up!! I have been so sick for so long! I will never go back!
I have been on a carnivore diet for over 4 months , and i am beyond impressed by what it has done for me .
30 ish years ago I started on the Atkins diet to fight debilitating Migraines, I worked the week I started 100% low carb. I remember Dr Atkins saying high animal Fat is fine if you don’t add in carbohydrates. I agree and I’m a healthy 76 year old and metabolically right.
1 week on carnivore My feet have stopped hurting And no craving Was scared at first But i'm getting reassurant from all your's testimony
I think that along as people experience overall improvement in health there is no basis for punishing anyone for promoting. Well, generally speaking words should not be prohibited.
I've been on the Carnivore Lifestyle since March 30th, 2023...and I feel f@cken amazing now! Diagnosed with MS for 16.5 yrs, and for the first time I finally have hope. Got off all my MS meds now, lost 30 lbs, energy better, concentration is better, skin cleared up etc. Everything is better now!
Who looks healthier? Dr Westman for the win! That's all I need to know.
This is how you test this.. who can run harder and win an arm wrestle!
Also who is smiling, and who has a miserable demeanor. Vegans do not seem to be happy or vital..
TBF Dr Westman is a few years younger
@@defeqel6537 That's true but the color of their skin is remarkably different. Dr Westman has glowing pink skin, the other dude's skin looks a little on the gray side
Westman has a great hairline.
If our ancestors lived on plants only we wouldn't exist.
This is soo true. There is an old adage - If you ever get lost in the woods or in a tropical forest, never ever eat the plants. Find an animal or even the squishy bugs, but never ever eat the plants. You'll die sooner if you do.
My a1c is down 2 points in 3 months. My blood work was great. Im losing inches not alot of weight. My dr is happy.
IMO, people like Dr. Furman who make outrageous statements about people who disagree with him, and who presume that their knowledge is complete and authoritative should be ignored.
ummmmm....everything he said is completely true. And your proof it isnt? I am waiting.
@@quiropracticoecuador1 the burden of proof is on Mr. Furman.
Well, Dr Fuhrman must fight for his position. He has staked his career, his intellect, his reputation, and his multimillion $ empire on the WFPB diet. He is pugilistic even with other plant doctors who vary slightly from his way. So he has put all his eggs (no pun intended) in this basket. He’s not about to just come out and say “oops, maybe there’s something to this carnivore/keto w.o.e.”
Exactly! Dr Fuhrman is never on the information sharing level, he's always on the defencive here, really attacking back (yet I never heard any initial attack to start him off!).
Like a company director defending a crowdfunded startup that's been ran into the ground! lol
I'd love to watch a debate with Dr Fuhrman and Dr Ken Berry
Yep.
Bingo.
When it's your time it's your time, nothing no one can do will change that, geesh
My dog only eats plants when she needs to throw up😂