"We must appease this machine spirit, small fleshling!" "Jus' gotta replace the Power Relay Coil, ye gobshite. Slap some steel down, wrap it in copper wirin'. Done."
@@prettyokandy230 "Ugh. Fine, ye feckin' technophile. O holy Omnissiah, please bless this holy coil, wrap us in your love as you would this wire, etcetera etcetera amen."
If the squats come back I'd like them and the admech to be besties. Like the squats get a laugh out of feigning devotion to the omnissiah. and the admech can't tell that they're faking it so they just think that the squats are blessed by and loyal to the omnissiah. So when shit goes down the admech are fiercely protective of the squats and the squats appreciate having someone willing to cover their 6 for once.
@@prettyokandy230 "Of COURSE when we do thin's without needin' a bleedin hymn to remind us 'Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey' the second rate body horrors needing to flail people for spare bits get to whining!"
Despite what this video contends, that bit about the Tyranids eating the Squats was never actually canon. There's no official book put out by GW stating this to be the case. GW just stopped writing about Squats. They could bring them out of retirement at any time.
Inquiditor: Tryanids, at this time of year, in the galactic core, localized entirely within the squat worlds Mechanocus: yes Inquidtor: may I see them? Mechanicus: no
Remember, kids, the Squats were canonically the primary driving factor for the development of Mk III power armor for the Space Marines because even Big E's vaunted superhumans kept getting thrashed trying to invade Squat strongholds.
“Marine, go charge headfirst into that dark tunnel.” “For the Crusade and the glory of humanit-“ BANG FWOOSH KERPLUNK SQPLISH Left boot flies out, smoking. “We’re making good progress here. Marine, go charge down that dark tunnel.”
So they retconned "squats" because they felt like it was a silly grimdark parody of a fantasy trope? Wait until they hear about, uh, literally everything else in the 40K universe
@@IceLizardsUnited yep. And skaven are quite a bit different but they serve the same function as tyranids kinda. Infect cities from within then strike with overwhelming numbers.
I think maybe their origin are just not grimdark compared to humans and the eldar heck even with orks. Maybe in the near future we'll have squats with more grimdarky backstory.
@@bootsfluffy9476 HOW does literal CAT PEOPLE have less development than a faction that has been canonically DEAD for decades?! It’s like GW doesn’t understand their audie-oooooooh wait, no yeah, I see it.
@@koatam That's a myth, I'm from Nottingham and have never heard about The Rock, there is rock city but that was a straight club with hells' angels as bouncers back in the day
One day, we will live in a world where Squats are a faction again, where you can buy 10 Warriors and 3 scarabs for $25, where Chaos Marines have 2 wounds and individual chapter codexs. Today is not that day. Edit: one year to the day. I'm a goddamn genius.
@@brysonevans7367 that's always been my head cannon. i like to think of some Ultra Marines fighting some Tyranids in some cave. then a pod drops in, ramp goes down and all the Tyranids see is four sets of eyes glowing and "ROCK AND STONE!"
Really shows how dumb GW is thinking the Squats were a "joke" but by then just deleting them out of nowhere turned them into a Joke. Fuck's sake GW you got Orks going with Power of Believe magic and you think Squats were "too much"?? Man this really rustles my Jimmies >:(
Jimmies? Why plural, Bifurcated phallus? Lol, just fuckin w/ ya... agree they need to revive the Astra Dawi. GW would do well to hire a few members of the *actual* 40k community.
Techno-monkeys. Indentured Imperial guards with poka dot uniforms. Ciphus Cain Death Core of Krieg Judge Dredd being technically canon. Squigs Ogrins Penitent Engines Lucious the immortal Half of the Drukari weapon names Felinids Dusty old metal skeleton man that steals people's shit, just to fuck with them Nope, nothing silly about 40k at all
I think it's more like the fact that the squats where a one to one parody. Orks? Mix of fantasy orcs and Mad Max. Necrons? Mix of Egyptian Mummies and Robots. Squats? They're literally just dwarfs, but IN SPACE! So I can see where they were coming from. It's not so much that they were silly, but they wanted it to be it's own thing instead of just putting the word "space" in front of a bunch of fantasy tropes.
@@starwarsnerd100 Then they should've come up with something to ADD to them not delete them out of Existence. Also that is a pretty weak reasoning for Deleting a Race because the Imperial Guard is also just Human Military but in Space. I don't see at all what is wrong with Dwarfs in Space, the Space factor adds alot to it.
The alleged "behind the scenes" story about the "why" they ended the Squats was that Andy Chambers' Orks could never win against them. Many of the battle reports from that time have been buried. His hatred of the Squats resulted with them being dropped in fourth/fifth edition, which he had a major hand in writing.
Funny enough the children of Donr hate squats and they entered a war that almost killed the entire legion only ending with a truss because even if the emperor won the war the empire of man would loss to many resources that is why during the war against hive fleet behemoth the empire of man let the squats die as revenge against the emporer fists
It’s actually thousands of squats stacked head to toe forming a Titan shaped human pyramid, covered in a Titan shaped trench coat. No Princeps required.
HHmmmmmm... Which faction should get more attention from the machine god? Cuddly short ppl ocassionally get drunk and inventing strong and beautiful machines *or* skinny rotting body horror mechanical cults flaying ppl for spare parts and bickering about patent law that last until end time?
The Mechanicum is funkier as well in Rogue Trader. They are more like monks who study and learn old tech than owning entire worlds and running a strange alternate religion. A mechanicum monk is literally a dude in sandals with tonsur. There is a general air of mystery about very advanced stuff. Things like a plasma gun and the air scrubbers powerful enough to maintain a hive. The religious mystery gets more intense as it moves from everyday technology and into weird pre-imperial super-science.
@@corperk The tech-priests existed in Rogue Trader. They were imperial adepts forming a monastic brotherhood that studied ancient arcane science. Most people think machines above the ordinary (a lasgun, a power drill, a landcar) are a little freaky. When you reach the superscience level, things actually start to become freaky.
Cooking up some wild Drukhari fanfic JUST for you guys. I’m having a cringe editor make sure every single sentence is as painful as a year in Commorragh.
@@unitedstatesofamerica4987 (We did.....yet something about the Emperor's Creed and no more internet......truly Chaotic Times. Almost makes you want to revolt for another Heresy.)
GW could retcon the Squats by saying the Imperium lied about the Tyranids and set up some kind of psychic illusion to hide the planets and prevent xenos from seeking out the minerals, and also so the Squats could conduct R&D in secret. Then the Squats can finally return in tiny little power armour suits and ceramite dwarf helmets.
@@yoshimonsterhamoomoo8413 that would mean retconning the Tyranids. Which is a major faction. And would fucker everything over. Edit: how did I…? Wow. I must have been tired as hell when I wrote this.
I like to think the real reason the orks traded with them was that they couldn't help but see them as the human version of gretchins and so not worth a proper fight. Then after all the years of trading for all that good grog and dakka they felt guilty, so summoned the biggest waaagh they could to make it up to their squat friends.
That's like that stupid Goblin post about all but one Goblin fleeing from a battle they were aiding in that the king(Wizard? Memory's fuzzy.) cursed them all with a "Fuck everyone but Greknarl, he's cool." So then there were millennia generations of Goblins all named Greknarl, heir to Greknarl and his warrior bride Greknarl. I fucking love it.
My biggest question is HOW did the Tyranids managed to invade their homeworld to such an extent that they almost wiped them out (a task that the Orks and Space marines tried and failed at). Wasnt their planet relatively close to Terra? How did a hive fleet managed to get this close? The only way this makes sense is if the highter ups in the Imperium let that happen because they didnt trust them anymore or some bullshit like that
They didn't. The squats were made up of an Empire of them (League of Votunn) and only one of the minor kingdoms communicated regularly with Imperium got nommed, not the squats as a whole.
@@HideyoshiKinoshita84 That was made up very recently. Up until the Leagues were invented the squats as a whole were nommed by the Tyranids, aside from a scarce handful of mercenaries who were on other worlds.
I still hold on to my own personal pet theory that the imperium wiped them out for being a successful human faction outside of direct imperial control and then claimed it was the tyranids.
@@randombencounter263 Well, that means that the Adeptus Mechanicus should be wiped out. As they are technically a successful group and technically not apart of the Imperium. Rather they are just a faction that signed a deal with the Emperor. They do not believe in the God Emperor and really do not give two shits about the Empire. They just care about technology and the Machine Spirit. So by that logic. The Imperium should have destroyed them too. Just poking holes in the theory. Do not take offense.
@@GarmrsBarking Well, Squats started as humans as well. They pretty much evolved to survive the harsh punishments of their world(s). Sooo...yeah there are a few holes in your theory. Not shooting you down. It could be a strong possibility. Just that Squats have such a hate towards the Eldar for being total dicks. It would not be much of a stretch the Eldar wanting to get back at the Imperium over something. Though to attract the Tyranids. As they would know they were out there along the edges of the galaxy. Just send off a pychic blast through the warp. Get the attention of a splinter group of Tyranids, they head that way. They have a snack and leave the world. Being that the Squat Homeworlds were pretty much barren anyway. There still be all those resources. As Tyranids do not really stick around after they absorbed every bit of biomass. Though I swear I heard the Tyranids also even suck up all the minerals on a planet too. Just leaving the world a literal husk. Nothing left. Yet maybe I am wrong or that is another Tyranids swarm that does that.
really important piece of lore about why the squats are so different is that the time rate near the galactic core is wildly dilated due to weird gravity fuckery so while the average human age of strife lasted about 5-6 thousand years the squat one lasted about 30-40 thousand years relatively.
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 The Klanz are still a thing my dude. Every faction has subfactions. Sisters have Orders, Guardsmen have Regiments, Tau have Septs, and Orks have the Klanz.
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 yeah stormboyz like someone else mentioned and the freebooterz are pirates. All the clans do still exist. Goffs are probably the biggest atm because of ghazkull mag Uruk thrakka.
Space Dwarves need to be a thing again, I absolutely fucking love dwarves in games and fantasy and I was so disappointed when I first found out there weren't any, then I was very excited to hear that they did exist and then I was immediately crushed that they don't exist anymore really.
As a faction they don’t exist but there are some left in the imperium. Also the tau have a species just for mining I think they were called something like the demigerg but not entirely sure. The only description we have of them is how they’re short, live entirely on ships and go around mining.
Well they could just have Trazyn have like an army of Squats that were almost overrun in his museum cause he knew they would have been nearly extinct and do the revival that way and I don't remember the book where it was but an Mechanicus exploration fleet got destroyed by an Squat fleet in one of the newer books
@@MrShark-gi7ii ain't much to tell, just that in one of the books there is a very short line of an adeptus explorer sending a message how some unknown space ships are destroying the exploration fleet and at the end he exclaims "hold on they are squa-" and thats about it
Since you're doing Admech next, might want to bring up the fact that there's actually a few Squat tech-priest models, including a recent one with a beard made of cables and a grot servitor :D
@@devinmctrusty9178 you can google "squat tech-priest" for the old metal model, the recent one is "Tech-Priest Grombrindal." Technically, Grombrindal is a fantasy dwarf and the mascot of Games Workshop's magazine White Dwarf, but they occasionally bring out various themed models of him and the one for Christmas 2019 was a tech-priest, so I'd say that version counts as a squat.
Great stuff, BUT you missed the most recent development... in Pariah, the final book in the Psychic Awakening series, there is a transcript of a fragmented transmission from a Mechanicus explorator fleet coming under attack from a fleet 'previously believed to be extinct- the Squa-' and then the transmission cuts out. So don't be so sure that there won't be a full revival at some point.... don't be so sure at all.>:)
There's also a SF Dwarf line from Scibor Miniatures and a Dvergr Commando line from Kromlech. I think the Forgefathers is still the best looking, definitely the most complete line out there, but there are multiple options for wanna-be Squat players.
I remember reading that the fan reaction to them being removed was so extreme that GW had to ban people from their forums. Cue jokes about the Inquisition silencing anyone who mentions the Squats existing. And while I'm having trouble finding confirmation, it seems this might be canon with the "Letter(s) of Reversal", wherein the Inquisition admits they enforced silence for the sake of morale, before blaming the error on the Administratum and Mechanicus (who immediately reply "no, you")
I'm convinced that canon-wise, the Squats were still a part of the Imperium for a very long time, but the Mechanicus have been diligent in deleting/altering records of them b/c the Squats were the only other group within the Imperium that could reliably build, fix, and occasionally innovate on technology to the point of outdoing the Mechanicus who worked to exterminatus them.
The biggest counter 2 Jervis Johnson was at the same time the squats got killed off. There were special morale rules for certain orc units that would make them if they failed a morale roll could end up either convinced that they were invisible and walk across the board or start breakdancing in place.
Squats were in the game in about 91 for sure, as my first army was squats. They had plastic troops with lasguns, metal bikes and trikes with heavy weapons. They also had something called hearth guard, which were squat leaders in exo-armor (power armor--I had some of the miniatures). I believe there was a rule where, if you had the points, ever single foot squat could be equipped with a heavy bolter. Chaos squats also existed (and there were miniatures for them--I had some of those too). When GW kept a message board 10 years ago or more, if you even mentioned Squats in a post, you'd get banned--no joke--BOOM gone. People have literally been asking for squats for about 2 decades.
Only recently discovered Squats and I kinda fell in love with the idea of them. I've been putting together a "Squat" army using other sci fi models with some customisation. I've become weirdly obsessed
Yes that is a shame, in Pariah they have a small teaser. As the explorator fleet recognizes their hull markings I am assuming these are the old stronghold squats. They were also mentioned in Liber Xenologis (which got released very recently). Besides the Necromunda Range i remember from back in the day some Squats allied with chaos. I imagine some of them still live in the warp or a dark corner of space. Some other squats joined the Mechanicus, some likely still operate on admech forgeworlds. Both the chaos and mechanicus squats had official models. Working on a squat project myself (so far hoarded over 50 official models including chaos, mechanicus and anniversary grombrindals). For as far as I know they were never fully killed off.
Found this podcast literally today, and it's probably one of my favorite things. I've always wanted to know a bit more about 40k lore, and this is perfect for that, while still being incredibly entertaining. It's something I could listen to it for hours on end.
Squats are back guys! Called 'Kin' by those they consider friends, but known professionally as 'League of Votann'. Finally! Something that I could really get into that could potentially be as close as a faction in 40k could be towards the 'Good' side! Wohoo!!!
Fantasy dwarves have really boomed in popularity, so hopefully the squats will come back in their full glory because I can easily see them being the first minis I buy
ACTUALLY, DK you did a fantastic job! Bricky, also fantastic, but you could have taken the lord’s name in vain a few more times for the true Adeptus Ridiculous feel 🤪. Thanks so much guys! Always love the show!
Tyranids eating the Squats has a very "Poochie died on the way to his home planet" feel about it. Loving these videos, by the way. I haven't played 40k since 2nd edition and will be getting back into it when 10th edition drops.
On an interview with one of the designers (I don't remember who, I think it was one of the warhammer podcast eps), he said another reason they were canceled was that they couldn't figure out how to make the squats play differently gameplay wise with the other armies
They could bring them back as nomadic space dwarfs that have a death wish and a blinding hatred for xenos. Basicly making them slayer dwarfs from fantasy
I mean... when they were around they were the admech but normaler lol. A few books even replaced specific characters that were Squats with tech priests.
Well the space dwarfs are basically early draft version of Mechanicus, but with a skin of Warhammer Fantasy dwarf. Mechanicus is a rather more interesting idea, which they then used them to replace squats.
It would kinda be fun to have DK choose an army at random from the wiki, read the article aloud, and have Bricky tell some funny stories about games he and Shy have played against that faction, or any info the article might be missing.
Grendel Grendelsson looks like that old biker your dad hangs out with. Yes you, who's reading this. You know your dad knows someone who is exactly that guy.
Honestly if squats were brought back as a squad option for guard it would be amazing Maybe have them be either tough melee-focused infantry or bike riding outriders
Plot twist: Cawl is just 15 squats in a robe
Never before have I ever seen anything so perfect, so pure. The Truth has been Spoken.
15 Squat Clans Representatives. As the old ones die they are replaced by their heirs!
He just claims to be a cluster of AIs because that's somehow less heretical in the eyes of GW. I mean the Imperium.
@@n.henzler50 you mean cluster of “the greatest scientific minds known to mankind”
Because that’s not equally heretical
One day the Primaris geneseed will undergo a strange and terrible change, and the marines, once so toweringly tall and proud...will begin to shrink.
And thus Deep Rock Galactic was born with the mission to get rich and destroy the Tyranid scum
I was thinking doing this in my rogue trader round where my players fight side on side with the deep rock guys. Maybe fun.
I always remind my team that we are in fact squats killing nyds
@@brettpid6416 "no copyright infringement intended!"
ROCK AND STONE!
@@cthulhuplus ROCK AND STONE BROTHER!
Squats are deep under Terra, keeping everything running smooth and drunk.
Squat: WE AIN'T DRUNK! *HIC!* WE ARE RUNNIN' SMOOTHLY! YOU--You...you....uh...there are six of ya. Damn it Krag! YOU SPIKED MY DRINK AGAIN!
Rogal Dorn is stuck on a Squat planet, learning gravity weaponry and stronger fort construction.
@@Ristle I wonder if Sqaut door height regulations get mixed into Imperial design by accident
They have drinking parties with the custodes
How dare you insult squads like that. They would never be smooth and where all born with massive beards
"We must appease this machine spirit, small fleshling!"
"Jus' gotta replace the Power Relay Coil, ye gobshite. Slap some steel down, wrap it in copper wirin'. Done."
sounds like heresy to me
@@prettyokandy230 "Ugh. Fine, ye feckin' technophile.
O holy Omnissiah, please bless this holy coil, wrap us in your love as you would this wire, etcetera etcetera amen."
If the squats come back I'd like them and the admech to be besties. Like the squats get a laugh out of feigning devotion to the omnissiah. and the admech can't tell that they're faking it so they just think that the squats are blessed by and loyal to the omnissiah.
So when shit goes down the admech are fiercely protective of the squats and the squats appreciate having someone willing to cover their 6 for once.
@@P1gdude Well, they're Squats so it's less of a 6, more of a... well, 3. Maybe 2½.
@@prettyokandy230 "Of COURSE when we do thin's without needin' a bleedin hymn to remind us 'Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey' the second rate body horrors needing to flail people for spare bits get to whining!"
Sees word squats.
*holds back tears of unbelievable sorrow and loss* goddamn bugs
Despite what this video contends, that bit about the Tyranids eating the Squats was never actually canon. There's no official book put out by GW stating this to be the case. GW just stopped writing about Squats. They could bring them out of retirement at any time.
Fall of squats > Fall of cadia
@@jasons.2807 The homeworlds broke before the Squats did.
Then, you know what time it is? GRUDGE TIME! Get the bolters and I'll get the flyer warmed up.
@@Bluecho4 Have you ever heard about the Tale of the Frog and the Scorpion? ...
"They all got ate by Tyranids" sounds like the Mechanicus' version of the "Ork Snipers" explanation for the Celestial Lions.
The inquisition killed the Lions
@@erwinthedodo9205 not according to the inquisition
Inquiditor: Tryanids, at this time of year, in the galactic core, localized entirely within the squat worlds
Mechanocus: yes
Inquidtor: may I see them?
Mechanicus: no
Remember, kids, the Squats were canonically the primary driving factor for the development of Mk III power armor for the Space Marines because even Big E's vaunted superhumans kept getting thrashed trying to invade Squat strongholds.
And back then (in real world history) space marines were toughness 3, and squats were toughness 4.
“Marine, go charge headfirst into that dark tunnel.”
“For the Crusade and the glory of humanit-“
BANG FWOOSH KERPLUNK SQPLISH
Left boot flies out, smoking.
“We’re making good progress here. Marine, go charge down that dark tunnel.”
Big E superhumans keep punishing Squats that owns Matrioshka brains
So they retconned "squats" because they felt like it was a silly grimdark parody of a fantasy trope? Wait until they hear about, uh, literally everything else in the 40K universe
Yeah, we need some more Nemesor Zahndrek and Trazyns n' stuff
Not to mention that OGRYNS exist. Ogryns. Ogres. I mean, c'mon
@@mrcopycat2355 and also Orks. Aka Orcs. And Eldar and Drukhari. Aka Elves and Drow.
@@bonogiamboni4830 And Necrons are Tomb Kings.
@@IceLizardsUnited yep. And skaven are quite a bit different but they serve the same function as tyranids kinda. Infect cities from within then strike with overwhelming numbers.
I think maybe their origin are just not grimdark compared to humans and the eldar heck even with orks. Maybe in the near future we'll have squats with more grimdarky backstory.
Listening to this today, April 2,2022, and man does DK get to fully eat his words when he says “I don’t think the squats are getting a full revival”
Are they really a thing again? Man it's all downhill since they came up with the grey knights...
@Yamato12345666 My man, take a look at the Leagues of Votann (new squats), they're up there with the coolest races in 40k.
except there is no novels yet. I was expecting at least one novel on this new/old race 0.o
Aged like milk
You beat me to this comment by a year and 4 months
_"And then came the Tyranids. The end."_
- GW
GW later: or is it?
GW: Wait, we can make money out of them? *BRING 'EM BACK BOYS!*
Tyranids are just the retcon button at this point
Malal and zoats: well done my child now come back to eat some cookies with Horus
sons of malice are based
The zoats are back as a player character for Blackstone Fortress.
zoats are back in TW: Warhammer
@@gordonthefish Aye, but that is Fantasy. Malal is also canon in both 40k and Fantasy. Increasingly more so in 40k.
@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN GW is too scared to rock the boat. They are sitting on a ton of great ideas and they do nothing with them.
"Squads dont have much lore"
We know more about about the Squads than we do about the Ogryns, Rattlings, Beastmen and Vespid. Somehow.
Don't forget felinids
to be fair they were an entire faction rather than just a normal subtype so it makes sense they had more lore.
@@bootsfluffy9476 HOW does literal CAT PEOPLE have less development than a faction that has been canonically DEAD for decades?! It’s like GW doesn’t understand their audie-oooooooh wait, no yeah, I see it.
"It's kind of hard to retcon getting your fucking homeworld ea-"
Me: Lion El'Jonson: huehue big rock go [ *_Microwave noises_* ]
"How is that homosexual night club going son?"
@@koatam That's a myth, I'm from Nottingham and have never heard about The Rock, there is rock city but that was a straight club with hells' angels as bouncers back in the day
@@DrLennieSmall honestly. Thats even better and more appropriate lore.
@@DrLennieSmall you guys have hells angels???? I thought that was a Canadian/American thing lol
@@HyperLethal0100 Yeah, my uncle was good friends with them, his cell mate was one
"That's it!?"
"Thats it."
"What a blunder!"
Now you know everyone's pain, Brickie.
SQUATS ARE NOT DEAD THEY LIVE ON IN THE HEARTS OF GROUCHY MEGA CHADS
And in Necromunda.
One day, Grendel Grendelsen will have his revenge.
They also sip tea from your factory
Also Deep Rock Galactic.
I would have to recheck it but I am pretty sure there was a squad captain appearing for like 2 lines in Watchers of the Throne.
Squadia Never Falls!
"I don't think there's going to be a full Squat revival..."
"I can't see them doing a full army of Squats..."
_laughs in Leagues of Votann_
One day, we will live in a world where Squats are a faction again, where you can buy 10 Warriors and 3 scarabs for $25, where Chaos Marines have 2 wounds and individual chapter codexs. Today is not that day.
Edit: one year to the day. I'm a goddamn genius.
Never stop dreaming though, right?
Where Tyranids have a good codex?
Official may never return them, but they will forever live on in our homebrew hearts.
There's always third party options. Mantic Games, Wargames Atlantic, Ramshackle Games. They fill the void that GW left in terms of Squat models.
Honestly, it wouldn't be hard to integrate the Squats back into 40k in the current era.
plot twist the squats survived and now they've formed a corperation that mine minerals out of an asteroid infested with bugs
Ha, that would be awesome if DRG was secretly in the warhammer universe
@@brysonevans7367 that's always been my head cannon. i like to think of some Ultra Marines fighting some Tyranids in some cave. then a pod drops in, ramp goes down and all the Tyranids see is four sets of eyes glowing and "ROCK AND STONE!"
@@musicalDrebin same
@@musicalDrebin ROCK AND STONE!!!
@@mrmacju1530 IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE YOU AIN'T GOIN HOME!
Really shows how dumb GW is thinking the Squats were a "joke" but by then just deleting them out of nowhere turned them into a Joke.
Fuck's sake GW you got Orks going with Power of Believe magic and you think Squats were "too much"??
Man this really rustles my Jimmies >:(
Jimmies? Why plural, Bifurcated phallus?
Lol, just fuckin w/ ya... agree they need to revive the Astra Dawi. GW would do well to hire a few members of the *actual* 40k community.
No kidding! Orks are Cockney Soccer Hooligans and *squats* are too silly?
Techno-monkeys.
Indentured Imperial guards with poka dot uniforms.
Ciphus Cain
Death Core of Krieg
Judge Dredd being technically canon.
Squigs
Ogrins
Penitent Engines
Lucious the immortal
Half of the Drukari weapon names
Felinids
Dusty old metal skeleton man that steals people's shit, just to fuck with them
Nope, nothing silly about 40k at all
I think it's more like the fact that the squats where a one to one parody. Orks? Mix of fantasy orcs and Mad Max. Necrons? Mix of Egyptian Mummies and Robots. Squats? They're literally just dwarfs, but IN SPACE! So I can see where they were coming from. It's not so much that they were silly, but they wanted it to be it's own thing instead of just putting the word "space" in front of a bunch of fantasy tropes.
@@starwarsnerd100 Then they should've come up with something to ADD to them not delete them out of Existence. Also that is a pretty weak reasoning for Deleting a Race because the Imperial Guard is also just Human Military but in Space. I don't see at all what is wrong with Dwarfs in Space, the Space factor adds alot to it.
The alleged "behind the scenes" story about the "why" they ended the Squats was that Andy Chambers' Orks could never win against them. Many of the battle reports from that time have been buried. His hatred of the Squats resulted with them being dropped in fourth/fifth edition, which he had a major hand in writing.
Man all the reasons I’ve heard for why they removed them suck, regardless of which one is true.
The level of simple, petty maliciousness involved makes me think it's true.
Squats weren't even in 2nd ed
Space Dwarves need to return. Even Big E in TTS loved them.
Which episode did he say that
They are squats there is no reason to call them some made up fantasy name.
@@guardsmanlars6797 podcast 3 Draco.
Games Workshops hates Squats. Reason they were "killed" off.
DUMPY GRIMBO
GW: Removes squats
Lore on MK3 power armor: Wait, why was I created?
well, that can be still canon.. squats eaten by nids leaves plenty of time for the imperium to get ideas from them
ALL ABOARD THE SECESSION TREEEEEEEN!
One year later: Because SQUATS
Rogal Dorns unofficial children how he loved them so dearly.
Funny enough the children of Donr hate squats and they entered a war that almost killed the entire legion only ending with a truss because even if the emperor won the war the empire of man would loss to many resources that is why during the war against hive fleet behemoth the empire of man let the squats die as revenge against the emporer fists
The short Fist from the Death Watch novels could be a Squat lol
@@alexanderm8880 Squatstartes
Adeptus Squatartes
I figured they were good friends with the Space Wolves, aka Space Vikings
The real reason the Squats aren’t in lore anymore is simple: All of the orks refused to believe that Squats exist, so they don’t
In my personal head canon the imperial Titans are entirely staffed by legions of squat mechanics
It’s actually thousands of squats stacked head to toe forming a Titan shaped human pyramid, covered in a Titan shaped trench coat. No Princeps required.
Princeps do exist, the reason they are so rare is because they are the only people capable of drinking a squat under the table.
I'm a titan. I'm a titan. I'm a titan.
What if the princeps are squats in a trench coat. Or 3 grethen slaves carrying a squat in a Trench coat?
what if they are just the result of turning squats into dreadnoughts (they get to be BIG)?
"I don't think there will be a squat revival"
One year later : Rock and Stone Brothers!!
Ever since I've learned about the squats I've yearned for the day they make a return. One day
GW: Literally makes a game that is meant to be a meme and a parody of archetypes.
Also GW: wE tHInk wE diDN't Do thE DwArF jUStice.
Exactly
The green soccer hooligans were fine, but short guys on big tricycles was the fucking line.
It's more
GW: "We're not making any money off these. Kill them all off."
@@blacklightredlight2945 that the weird thing. They were actually making money at the time.
@@blacklightredlight2945 that is explicitly not true
The faction that made the mechanicum look bad so they got not so gently phased out
Well the war with the man of iron kinda fucked over the martians super hard and it was basically mandatory to treat the remaining tech religiously
HHmmmmmm... Which faction should get more attention from the machine god? Cuddly short ppl ocassionally get drunk and inventing strong and beautiful machines *or* skinny rotting body horror mechanical cults flaying ppl for spare parts and bickering about patent law that last until end time?
The Mechanicum is funkier as well in Rogue Trader. They are more like monks who study and learn old tech than owning entire worlds and running a strange alternate religion. A mechanicum monk is literally a dude in sandals with tonsur.
There is a general air of mystery about very advanced stuff. Things like a plasma gun and the air scrubbers powerful enough to maintain a hive. The religious mystery gets more intense as it moves from everyday technology and into weird pre-imperial super-science.
The Mechanicum didn't exit when the squat existed. The Admech wasn't even martian back then.
@@corperk The tech-priests existed in Rogue Trader. They were imperial adepts forming a monastic brotherhood that studied ancient arcane science. Most people think machines above the ordinary (a lasgun, a power drill, a landcar) are a little freaky. When you reach the superscience level, things actually start to become freaky.
Cooking up some wild Drukhari fanfic JUST for you guys. I’m having a cringe editor make sure every single sentence is as painful as a year in Commorragh.
music to my ears, brother.
the prince of pleasure will reward you for your passionate work.
I will prepare.
(Why can't We have some nice waifus?).
@@unitedstatesofamerica4987 (We did.....yet something about the Emperor's Creed and no more internet......truly Chaotic Times. Almost makes you want to revolt for another Heresy.)
The whole fic is written in hewwo.
ill prepare the lasgun. for myself ofcourse
GW could retcon the Squats by saying the Imperium lied about the Tyranids and set up some kind of psychic illusion to hide the planets and prevent xenos from seeking out the minerals, and also so the Squats could conduct R&D in secret. Then the Squats can finally return in tiny little power armour suits and ceramite dwarf helmets.
Sure, if they wanted to completely wreck their franchise.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 how so?
@@justinlast2lastharder749 what would be wrecked? Retcons aren’t exactly unknown
@@yoshimonsterhamoomoo8413 that would mean retconning the Tyranids. Which is a major faction. And would fucker everything over.
Edit: how did I…? Wow. I must have been tired as hell when I wrote this.
@@lordfelidae4505 didn’t they retcon the necrons?
I like to think the real reason the orks traded with them was that they couldn't help but see them as the human version of gretchins and so not worth a proper fight.
Then after all the years of trading for all that good grog and dakka they felt guilty, so summoned the biggest waaagh they could to make it up to their squat friends.
Didn't know orks could be that heartwarming.
So, Grendel Grendelsen's last name is just the Danish last naming convention as the English "-son". So basically his name is "Grendel Son of Grendel".
See also: "the Second" and "Junior."
That's like that stupid Goblin post about all but one Goblin fleeing from a battle they were aiding in that the king(Wizard? Memory's fuzzy.) cursed them all with a "Fuck everyone but Greknarl, he's cool." So then there were millennia generations of Goblins all named Greknarl, heir to Greknarl and his warrior bride Greknarl.
I fucking love it.
@Isrel156 OSP is a treasure
Theres a lotta Magnus Magnusens and Erik Eriksens in the old norse sagas.
Came seeking this response. If anything needed to be "akshully'd", that was it.
Bricky: Who trades with the Orks?
Digga'Nobs: Am I a joke to you?
A short episode on Digga Nobs would be great
Do not fumble that name, i repeat do not fumble that name
Dwarf/Squat: stubs toe
Dwarf/Squat: "fuckin' elves"
-DAMN POINTY EARED ELVES. THATS GOING INTO THE BOOK OF GRUDGES!!
-random elf: who hurt you?
My biggest question is HOW did the Tyranids managed to invade their homeworld to such an extent that they almost wiped them out (a task that the Orks and Space marines tried and failed at). Wasnt their planet relatively close to Terra? How did a hive fleet managed to get this close? The only way this makes sense is if the highter ups in the Imperium let that happen because they didnt trust them anymore or some bullshit like that
lazy writing
They didn't. The squats were made up of an Empire of them (League of Votunn) and only one of the minor kingdoms communicated regularly with Imperium got nommed, not the squats as a whole.
@@HideyoshiKinoshita84 That was made up very recently. Up until the Leagues were invented the squats as a whole were nommed by the Tyranids, aside from a scarce handful of mercenaries who were on other worlds.
The Eldar killed the Squats (my head canon). They did something to piss off the bugs and got the bugs to eat the Squats. Why? Eldar are bastards.
*FUCKING ELVES!*
I still hold on to my own personal pet theory that the imperium wiped them out for being a successful human faction outside of direct imperial control and then claimed it was the tyranids.
@@randombencounter263 Well, that means that the Adeptus Mechanicus should be wiped out. As they are technically a successful group and technically not apart of the Imperium. Rather they are just a faction that signed a deal with the Emperor.
They do not believe in the God Emperor and really do not give two shits about the Empire. They just care about technology and the Machine Spirit.
So by that logic. The Imperium should have destroyed them too. Just poking holes in the theory. Do not take offense.
@@Qardo well the squats are abhumans and the mechanicum is human.._ well sort of._. They start of that way at least.._
@@GarmrsBarking Well, Squats started as humans as well. They pretty much evolved to survive the harsh punishments of their world(s). Sooo...yeah there are a few holes in your theory. Not shooting you down. It could be a strong possibility. Just that Squats have such a hate towards the Eldar for being total dicks.
It would not be much of a stretch the Eldar wanting to get back at the Imperium over something. Though to attract the Tyranids. As they would know they were out there along the edges of the galaxy. Just send off a pychic blast through the warp. Get the attention of a splinter group of Tyranids, they head that way. They have a snack and leave the world. Being that the Squat Homeworlds were pretty much barren anyway. There still be all those resources. As Tyranids do not really stick around after they absorbed every bit of biomass.
Though I swear I heard the Tyranids also even suck up all the minerals on a planet too. Just leaving the world a literal husk. Nothing left. Yet maybe I am wrong or that is another Tyranids swarm that does that.
The Nids be like: "Hmmmm, dessert with alcohol filling."
Plot twist: tyranids all die of alcohol poisoning.
Current GW: not!
"Then the tyranids evolved the ability to be short ayeeeee..."
- Magnus The Red
When does he say this? I'm guessing in an episode of TTS.
I think he said this in the latest Voxcast. The one about Jaque Draco, written by...
Ian Watson
Author of the screen story for Steve Spelman's AI...
@@heartofdarkness8548 A normal wrote this... And yet I find myself ostracized for wanting to cull him...
DUMPY GRIMBO
@@TrinityShoji
"Yes!"
- Magnus The Red
really important piece of lore about why the squats are so different is that the time rate near the galactic core is wildly dilated due to weird gravity fuckery so while the average human age of strife lasted about 5-6 thousand years the squat one lasted about 30-40 thousand years relatively.
Blood Axes are known for trading with the Imperium as well as working as mercenaries. They know that them 'umies gots dem big guns wit tha 'uge dakka
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 The Klanz are still a thing my dude. Every faction has subfactions. Sisters have Orders, Guardsmen have Regiments, Tau have Septs, and Orks have the Klanz.
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 My man, you ever heard of the "Orkperium"?
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 You're thinkin' of the stormboys, the freebootaz' are pirate orks they're all still a thing too also bad username
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 yeah stormboyz like someone else mentioned and the freebooterz are pirates. All the clans do still exist. Goffs are probably the biggest atm because of ghazkull mag Uruk thrakka.
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 the hell does this username mean?
Who else came back to this video because of the official squats, or now, Leagues of Votann return?
Space Dwarves need to be a thing again, I absolutely fucking love dwarves in games and fantasy and I was so disappointed when I first found out there weren't any, then I was very excited to hear that they did exist and then I was immediately crushed that they don't exist anymore really.
As a faction they don’t exist but there are some left in the imperium. Also the tau have a species just for mining I think they were called something like the demigerg but not entirely sure. The only description we have of them is how they’re short, live entirely on ships and go around mining.
I believe at some point in the psychic awakening campaign there was a sighting of a ship with the squats heraldry on it.
Boy do I have a game for you. Check out Deep Rock Galactic. The game is all about space dwarves, and the enemy you fight may as well be tyrannids.
@@funkemonke8084 such a good game
@@funkemonke8084 Oh bro, that one's so good and a perfect example of why there should be more dwarf games.
The one of the few groups we respect on krieg. They gave it all for the Empire.
“Yes”
Indeed
I too give my support as governor of alpha-273
Well they could just have Trazyn have like an army of Squats that were almost overrun in his museum cause he knew they would have been nearly extinct and do the revival that way and I don't remember the book where it was but an Mechanicus exploration fleet got destroyed by an Squat fleet in one of the newer books
I must know more, can you please tell more?
@@MrShark-gi7ii ain't much to tell, just that in one of the books there is a very short line of an adeptus explorer sending a message how some unknown space ships are destroying the exploration fleet and at the end he exclaims "hold on they are squa-" and thats about it
GW saying the Squats lost out to other projects.
GW translation: "We wanted to do more marines."
Blue ones ...
"We wanted to do more Primaris Lieutenants"....
Since you're doing Admech next, might want to bring up the fact that there's actually a few Squat tech-priest models, including a recent one with a beard made of cables and a grot servitor :D
So we can breed the squats back into existence, is what you’re saying...
Where? I would love to see them.
@@devinmctrusty9178 you can google "squat tech-priest" for the old metal model, the recent one is "Tech-Priest Grombrindal."
Technically, Grombrindal is a fantasy dwarf and the mascot of Games Workshop's magazine White Dwarf, but they occasionally bring out various themed models of him and the one for Christmas 2019 was a tech-priest, so I'd say that version counts as a squat.
I just looked them up and they are adorable.
27:58 I'm here from the future and I bring news to make the Emperor smile
Great stuff, BUT you missed the most recent development... in Pariah, the final book in the Psychic Awakening series, there is a transcript of a fragmented transmission from a Mechanicus explorator fleet coming under attack from a fleet 'previously believed to be extinct- the Squa-' and then the transmission cuts out.
So don't be so sure that there won't be a full revival at some point.... don't be so sure at all.>:)
Aced it
That turned out to be an awesome teaser
The popularity of the Squats is pretty much the reason Mantic Games made the Forge Fathers one of the very first factions in Warzone.
There's also a SF Dwarf line from Scibor Miniatures and a Dvergr Commando line from Kromlech. I think the Forgefathers is still the best looking, definitely the most complete line out there, but there are multiple options for wanna-be Squat players.
I remember reading that the fan reaction to them being removed was so extreme that GW had to ban people from their forums.
Cue jokes about the Inquisition silencing anyone who mentions the Squats existing. And while I'm having trouble finding confirmation, it seems this might be canon with the "Letter(s) of Reversal", wherein the Inquisition admits they enforced silence for the sake of morale, before blaming the error on the Administratum and Mechanicus (who immediately reply "no, you")
Relistening a year later and the squats are returned, DK and Bricky's conversation about how they would never be fully back is amusing.
They just need to introduce the new race called the "Squatriani" and make their "Sniper Howitzer" a very expensive AbHuman guard unit.
Squats: Nay we have treeeeens
PRIMARIS SQUATS
I'm convinced that canon-wise, the Squats were still a part of the Imperium for a very long time, but the Mechanicus have been diligent in deleting/altering records of them b/c the Squats were the only other group within the Imperium that could reliably build, fix, and occasionally innovate on technology to the point of outdoing the Mechanicus who worked to exterminatus them.
REMAIN CALM
SQUATS LIVES ON
GW DIDN'T KILL THEM
^THIS.
ROCK AND STONE!
Hehehe
@@drmalpractical I TOLD YOU
REMAIN CALM
THE LEAGUE ENDURES
THE SQUAT HAVE RETURNED
YOU WERE RIGHT BROTHER!
LONG LIVE THE LEAGUE!
The ale that fucks (12:50) is probably what made the Orks play nice for so long.
the true misconception is calling squats, dwarves. They are dwarven in stature but they are just normal ol human settlers.
well abhumans any way
Well humans come in all shapes sizes and colors.... we are a broad variety of people.
I'm screaming. You know why I'm screaming. I'm screaming.
ROCK AND STONE! WE'RE BACK!
The biggest counter 2 Jervis Johnson was at the same time the squats got killed off. There were special morale rules for certain orc units that would make them if they failed a morale roll could end up either convinced that they were invisible and walk across the board or start breakdancing in place.
GW has forgotten the 40k dictum: "It's stupid, but it's fun!" Make it fun, and people won't mind that you haven't "done justice" to space dwarves.
DK did an amazing job. Hope we get to see him hosting again!
Squats were in the game in about 91 for sure, as my first army was squats. They had plastic troops with lasguns, metal bikes and trikes with heavy weapons. They also had something called hearth guard, which were squat leaders in exo-armor (power armor--I had some of the miniatures). I believe there was a rule where, if you had the points, ever single foot squat could be equipped with a heavy bolter. Chaos squats also existed (and there were miniatures for them--I had some of those too). When GW kept a message board 10 years ago or more, if you even mentioned Squats in a post, you'd get banned--no joke--BOOM gone. People have literally been asking for squats for about 2 decades.
one year later to the day, GW announce squats are coming back for real, thats freaky
THEY HAVE RETURNED!
The tyranids ate the squats to gain the ability to be short and grumpy
so thats were Termagants came from!
They also gained a hatred for eldar humans and orks
Only recently discovered Squats and I kinda fell in love with the idea of them.
I've been putting together a "Squat" army using other sci fi models with some customisation.
I've become weirdly obsessed
So, you getting Votann models to help you with that?
@@nikoladedic6623 oh definitely.
I had just finished my neo squats army when they announced the LoV. So, am definitely getting them
Awww you didn't cover the Psychic Awakening passage hint about Squats
Yes that is a shame, in Pariah they have a small teaser. As the explorator fleet recognizes their hull markings I am assuming these are the old stronghold squats. They were also mentioned in Liber Xenologis (which got released very recently). Besides the Necromunda Range i remember from back in the day some Squats allied with chaos. I imagine some of them still live in the warp or a dark corner of space. Some other squats joined the Mechanicus, some likely still operate on admech forgeworlds. Both the chaos and mechanicus squats had official models.
Working on a squat project myself (so far hoarded over 50 official models including chaos, mechanicus and anniversary grombrindals). For as far as I know they were never fully killed off.
Squats are back in 40k.
Leagues of Votann as official models and their own army line.
With 3d printing, the Squats are back baby.
You guys have become my new go-to podcast when taking a shit/going on a walk. This is the highest honor I can give, thank you for doing what you do
This podcast is the best part of the week.
its cool coming back to this with the recent news of squats returning.
Came back to this to say that,
You guys might do a part 2 of this soon enough
Found this podcast literally today, and it's probably one of my favorite things. I've always wanted to know a bit more about 40k lore, and this is perfect for that, while still being incredibly entertaining. It's something I could listen to it for hours on end.
Squats are back guys! Called 'Kin' by those they consider friends, but known professionally as 'League of Votann'. Finally! Something that I could really get into that could potentially be as close as a faction in 40k could be towards the 'Good' side! Wohoo!!!
On the topic of Squat Psykers - it was said in the first 40k Novel "Inquisitor" that the older Squats got, the more Psychicly powerful.
You ever seen Snow Piercer? It's like that. They disappeared into the walls and stuff to replace the extinct parts.
AND NOW THEY'RE BACK.
I refuse to believe that it's an April fools joke
SQUATS LIVE
*STOMP STOMP*
SQUATS LIVE
FEELIN' PRETTY EXISTENT HERE IN YER ORBIT. LET'S SEE HOW YER GROUND TREATS US!
*AAAAA-*
First time I heard about Squats was TTS's Voxcast special where they read Ian Watson's... Uh... Book...
My life has forever changed since then.
Fantasy dwarves have really boomed in popularity, so hopefully the squats will come back in their full glory because I can easily see them being the first minis I buy
ACTUALLY, DK you did a fantastic job! Bricky, also fantastic, but you could have taken the lord’s name in vain a few more times for the true Adeptus Ridiculous feel 🤪. Thanks so much guys! Always love the show!
here i am watching this a year later literally days after the squats were announced to be coming back as their own large unique faction.
ah the squats, the tyranids favorite kind of popcorn chicken. They loved them so much they ate them all and then got sad there wasn't more.
1st of April 2022 Squats are BACK!!!
Im sensing a part 2 video, later this year
Bricky and DK; LET'S GOO!!!?
i love the idea of weirder, less known factions Bricky doesn't know being done by DK this was a lot of fun!
Tyranids eating the Squats has a very "Poochie died on the way to his home planet" feel about it. Loving these videos, by the way. I haven't played 40k since 2nd edition and will be getting back into it when 10th edition drops.
This was predicting the future, one year later after they post this, GW announced SQUATS. Clearly GW watches.
On an interview with one of the designers (I don't remember who, I think it was one of the warhammer podcast eps), he said another reason they were canceled was that they couldn't figure out how to make the squats play differently gameplay wise with the other armies
They could bring them back as nomadic space dwarfs that have a death wish and a blinding hatred for xenos. Basicly making them slayer dwarfs from fantasy
"The Doom Squatter has entered the facility"
Sort of like the Karak Kadrin army from the Stom of Chaos booklet?
You guys forgot to mention that a explorator ship was destroyed by a bunch of angry squat ships with grav weapons
Last episode they said adeptus mechanicus next
Me: So that was a fucking lie.
SAME
I mean... when they were around they were the admech but normaler lol. A few books even replaced specific characters that were Squats with tech priests.
April fools?
I asked during the premiere, apparently this a bonus episode and took priority
Well the space dwarfs are basically early draft version of Mechanicus, but with a skin of Warhammer Fantasy dwarf. Mechanicus is a rather more interesting idea, which they then used them to replace squats.
It would kinda be fun to have DK choose an army at random from the wiki, read the article aloud, and have Bricky tell some funny stories about games he and Shy have played against that faction, or any info the article might be missing.
custodes must be like imperial knights to squats
A custodes is 3 squats in a golden trenchcoat
@@motirolamotoe1558 7*
Grendel Grendelsson looks like that old biker your dad hangs out with. Yes you, who's reading this. You know your dad knows someone who is exactly that guy.
He’s my uncle.
That guy is my dad
Uncle Toby. Mostly a good dude. Crazy as a shithouse rat.
He's in jail now for drilling through a guys kneecaps.
Honestly if squats were brought back as a squad option for guard it would be amazing
Maybe have them be either tough melee-focused infantry or bike riding outriders
Just thought I'd stop by and say Squats are back baby! Leagues of Votunn!