I was an Audi parts manager for 15 years and what really pissed me of is Audi’s lack of support for older cars, it’s disgraceful.. an idea for Audi fans is flood Audi Germany and social media with complaints about lack of support for older premium range cars, See if that has any effects
Had to let go of my s4 due to lack of parts and 2nd hand parts kept failing so I ended up selling the car as parts and they flew so fast even had two guys come with a saw to cut up the quarter panel ❤
I'm wondering if I should sell mine. I love the car but I hardly drive it and the parts availability and the cost of the parts when you can get them is a concern. I recently priced out an oil cooler, I don't need one currently but I know they often need to be replaced. Dealer gave me a price of $4,300 Canadian, that's crazy
@@marksinclair1173 you could bypass the oe and fit an aftermarket competition oil cooler, use a thermostat as well. It’s a hell of a thing to do get rid of your pride and joy. I could get parts here if available and ship if anyone is interested, would be interesting to find the price difference between USA/Canada and the UK
Had the issue of part availability for my c5 allroad 2.7 but I found out that audi sells parts for all the older models via their "Audi Tradition" site, brand new shipped directly from Germany. The dealer in Greece had no clue of that, thank god forums and Google exist!
Had an R/S 4 B7,was running fine.Went on holiday to Cornwall and things started to go wrong.Managed to get it running o.k then sold it and bought an M 4 .After watching this video,am glad I did.
If its a f80 Get the crank hub done/get an inspection done if its and older m4 as they suffer from cam issues and turbo issues (later cars also have the same issues)
Great work guys , a big fan here for your work and dedication. Especially the older V8's , because i was passionate enough to buy one myself . I'm located in Istanbul , got a 99 S6 -4B with 4.2 N/A . Manual swapped it , tuned the ECU from Nefmoto and VCDS . In my 3rd year of ownership , already done the cam-chain tensioners and other bits and bobs like timing belt kit with pulleys and water pump . Pretty simple unless its a turbo. These engines are actually pretty rigid , clocked at 300.000 km , still measured 11 psi compression from all cylinders . Had to delete the variable intake diaphram due to the lack of parts. Re-wired the engine , but the mechanical torque is intoxicating . Also the automatic ZF5HP24A was 160 kg , and the 01E manual was 62 kg , the car now weighs 1630 kg. Which i must say is a handful. Sad to see the old A8 and A6 s lying around in Europe , but i thing the future is in manual swaps in these old cars . Reduction in radiator load , fuel consumption and weight . Cheers.
Struggling with this exact issue on my plain ol’ C5 S6 right now. Transmission oil cooler lines, fan bearing, power steering pump, coolant hoses….alllll NLA. If anyone has a lower rad hose (just the rubber end) 4B3 121 055 H laying around, let me know! Thanks for the video! Love your stuff!
ouch on the Overheating B5 ...I think you guys should be fine regarding liability ...as you proposed to the owner to go with new OEM radiator, but he opted for some aftermarket replacement. I'm a little disappointed that the aftermarket radiator company didn't realize that there would be an additional pass in the OEM radiator due to the locations of the inlet/outlet ports being on the same side. The coolant would just straight-line to the outlet and not as you say take the long way around utilizing the entire cooling surface area. Thanks for uploading these video, very informative info for sure!
THAT’S MY CAR.! No. 315/999. Well at least I owned it from 2009 to 2011. Great to see it’s still in excellent condition with just a few mechanical issues. There were only 57 UK RHD RS6 plus made. Well worth saving in my opinion..
When you receive the new radiator place it face down so the exit pipes are facing upward and fill it with hot water, then use either a inferred thermometer or a thermal imager on the full radiator and that should give you a good indication of the water flow and heat distribution through the radiator.
Got to love a b5 😂I’ve got an s4 avant face lift, just fully refurbished underneath etc was only putting coilovers on 😅ending up new subframes front and rear now engine is out to change turbos an all gaskets 😂bug hey it’s worth it 🤦♂️love your content dude
The parts supply situation with Audi for older cars has been going on years, they really don't care not even for heritage stuff the Urq even 25 years ago they didn't care when parts for these cars went NLA. So now all the of the "newer cars" are going the same way, at least Merc and BMW do support older cars, your efforts to get both cars back on the road are outstanding btw, keep up the good work
occasionally you get these so-called car repairs from hell. nice to see you still have your wits and patience .. i own a 2017 audi s3 and so far only replaced the waterpump and moonroof motor.. not cheap here in the states to replace but its a nice little daily driver. got enough power when i need it. glad to see your new videos. enjoy them very much.
Great work Guys, as usual! :) And yes, too unfortunate for the older-great cars, and the lack of support/parts for them! I owned a S6 C5 in perfect condition, but due to the possibility, that someone can hit me / the car, and there is no parts to repair it, I have decided to part with it ;(
Such a shame Audi aren't providing a good parts supply on these aging RS cars. Surprising considering Porsche and Mercedes offer most parts on their modern classics (although usually expensive....).
Unfortunately they’ve stopped supplying OE parts too soon, we too have at our garage an RS6 C5 and a W12 D2 and the lack of parts is really a huge problem as there are no aftermarket parts for these kind of vehicles and you’d have to either manufacture it or improvise from other Audi parts. Shame to Audi for not standing behind their products as we owners do, other german brands still supply parts for their even older models, while Audi can’t do that for vehicles barely reaching the 20-25 years old mark. On to the cooling system of the RS6, i’ve owned 2 RS6 C5 both were driven in the Middle East and never had issues with overheating even at 50C and city traffic, the AC wasn’t that great when it was that hot but the cars never overheated, had a track-day with one one of them too and did great in that hot climate.
I thought I had problems restoring Rs4 3 years to solve a problem Yes very hard to get parts Great video , customer must have heart like a lion patients off a saint and pockets as deep as Elon Musk My son says my audi must have been on every ramp in the country, , good luck to the customer and chin up 👍
Is the exhaust flange stud decay (rust... whatever you want to call it) symptomatic of salt used on roads to limit black ice? or is it just a crap metal composition?
I don't really think that was unreasonable for the amount of work that was done. You basically did a full renewal of the engine. At least the bits that are failing due to age like plastic, rubber and stuff. The owner can now be confident it will be good for many, many years.
People don’t realise about how much labour goes into cars and everyone wants everything done cheap, then blames the mechanic on something else that failed that was advised
When I had my RS4 w/DRC, I bought the DRC tool from snapon, even thought it would only be used for my car, by me. Partially because not many places had it but mostly because anyone who has it likely didn't now how to use it.
Holy shit, looks to me that the Limited Edition RS6 was a car that you should have avoided. But of course you don't know at the outset how bad things are going to be.
I have been a VAG technician for 25 years. I have a amazing c5 allroad which is a money pit but sorted. It's now summer here. It overheats at times. New heater core, plugged, which I have to back flush occasionally. New factory radiator. It still runs hot when I turn it off. New temp sensors x3. New afterrun coolant pump. New factory fan controller. After running pump and fan still no longer works? My wiring diagrams are confusing. Any ideas?
It's obvious that Audi doesn't factor in long term ownership when designing their cars. I can't believe the size of those repair bills. Holy Cow! Seems like a good business to be in for you! ;-)
A mate of mine has a S3 hatchback Great fun to drive but I'm now questioning the long term reliability. He suggested I should get one. Needless to say given the kinds of stuff that fail I wont be walking into an Audi showroom any time soon.
rs4 a hefty bill for an older car ,,, but its a lot of car . when you think of the years ahead its really not a bad investment , as long as you owned the car for a while first ,, if you had just bought the car and then had to spend that on top it would hurt. very well spotted on the radiator issue , ok , well diagnosed as the internal baffles couldnt be spotted but theres no way you should be responsible for that ,,, fingers crossed all is good as it didnt really get a big cooking.
i just did 3300miles trip in august in my rs6 manual,we've just back sunday night,530bhp and 800nm and i just love it,sadly after 5years i have to get rid of it due to ulez shit!Was thinking to get b7 but i had one few yeas back and its just too small and fuck me,soooo slow!!!Great video anyway,have u did any c6 rs6?Think it will be nice replacement in terms of power and space,but they dont look that nice,prefer c5 look.
Had loads of radiators rebuilt or repaired cars vans trucks plant never had a problem my repairers will also tell you different prices for different cores ie budget against premium the cores are different tube diameter and the number of rows which leads to overheating if for instance you go for budget not saying this is the case but sometimes because of supply you encounter these problems Regards stuck on the ramp choose a time where the owner or the supplier has to decide how long you will be waiting (a reasonable time in this case) for the parts without it eating into your revenue then charge for storage but that’s business great vid sorry to say been there and got the T-shirt 👍👨🏻🏭
That's very reasonable for the knowledge you have my local mot garage charges £60 and quite often they only want to do the basics. Oil change new discs and pads etc
I wish Audi supported their classic models the way BMW, Porsche or Mercedes does. To Audi they are nice to use in marketing but they’d prefer you throw them away and buy a new Audi. Frustrating.
the definition of money pit ! At 130k sounds like it's a write off, while many cheapo cars just get broken in . Is that what PERFORMANCE car should be like?
You must have thought C5 RS6 - had a crazy wish to buy one like 2 years ago. Glad I had some common sense and passed it. Then bought an Bmw m6 with V10 a year ago 😂😂 Knock on wood, has been running perfectly for the last 12k KM.
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I was an Audi parts manager for 15 years and what really pissed me of is Audi’s lack of support for older cars, it’s disgraceful.. an idea for Audi fans is flood Audi Germany and social media with complaints about lack of support for older premium range cars, See if that has any effects
I should add that I've owned the car for 11 years
Had to let go of my s4 due to lack of parts and 2nd hand parts kept failing so I ended up selling the car as parts and they flew so fast even had two guys come with a saw to cut up the quarter panel ❤
@@lutha1720 sad times!
I'm wondering if I should sell mine. I love the car but I hardly drive it and the parts availability and the cost of the parts when you can get them is a concern. I recently priced out an oil cooler, I don't need one currently but I know they often need to be replaced. Dealer gave me a price of $4,300 Canadian, that's crazy
@@marksinclair1173 you could bypass the oe and fit an aftermarket competition oil cooler, use a thermostat as well. It’s a hell of a thing to do get rid of your pride and joy. I could get parts here if available and ship if anyone is interested, would be interesting to find the price difference between USA/Canada and the UK
Can we get a tshirt “so on & so on” 😊
:D ........
@@VAGTechnic I'd like "Same, Same - but different."
Had the issue of part availability for my c5 allroad 2.7 but I found out that audi sells parts for all the older models via their "Audi Tradition" site, brand new shipped directly from Germany.
The dealer in Greece had no clue of that, thank god forums and Google exist!
Had an R/S 4 B7,was running fine.Went on holiday to Cornwall and things started to go wrong.Managed to get it running o.k then sold it and bought an M 4 .After watching this video,am glad I did.
If its a f80 Get the crank hub done/get an inspection done if its and older m4 as they suffer from cam issues and turbo issues (later cars also have the same issues)
Upgrade the crank hub asap, if that spins engine rebuild and also rod bearings too
Great work guys , a big fan here for your work and dedication. Especially the older V8's , because i was passionate enough to buy one myself . I'm located in Istanbul , got a 99 S6 -4B with 4.2 N/A . Manual swapped it , tuned the ECU from Nefmoto and VCDS . In my 3rd year of ownership , already done the cam-chain tensioners and other bits and bobs like timing belt kit with pulleys and water pump . Pretty simple unless its a turbo. These engines are actually pretty rigid , clocked at 300.000 km , still measured 11 psi compression from all cylinders . Had to delete the variable intake diaphram due to the lack of parts. Re-wired the engine , but the mechanical torque is intoxicating . Also the automatic ZF5HP24A was 160 kg , and the 01E manual was 62 kg , the car now weighs 1630 kg. Which i must say is a handful. Sad to see the old A8 and A6 s lying around in Europe , but i thing the future is in manual swaps in these old cars . Reduction in radiator load , fuel consumption and weight .
Cheers.
Completely the opposite to a boring video, love the explanations, could listen to that all day 👍
I agree the B7 RS4 was worth every penny TO ME!!!!!! My opinion just take care of car and have fun with them
Given the length of time you've had it, I hope you have you been paid for work done so far. Keep the content coming!
Struggling with this exact issue on my plain ol’ C5 S6 right now. Transmission oil cooler lines, fan bearing, power steering pump, coolant hoses….alllll NLA. If anyone has a lower rad hose (just the rubber end) 4B3 121 055 H laying around, let me know!
Thanks for the video! Love your stuff!
Can't get a same diameter pipe and just make your own?
ouch on the Overheating B5 ...I think you guys should be fine regarding liability ...as you proposed to the owner to go with new OEM radiator, but he opted for some aftermarket replacement. I'm a little disappointed that the aftermarket radiator company didn't realize that there would be an additional pass in the OEM radiator due to the locations of the inlet/outlet ports being on the same side. The coolant would just straight-line to the outlet and not as you say take the long way around utilizing the entire cooling surface area. Thanks for uploading these video, very informative info for sure!
Great video, thanks 👍👌😊
THAT’S MY CAR.! No. 315/999. Well at least I owned it from 2009 to 2011. Great to see it’s still in excellent condition with just a few mechanical issues. There were only 57 UK RHD RS6 plus made. Well worth saving in my opinion..
we done our best to keep it alive ... almost bought it :D
When you receive the new radiator place it face down so the exit pipes are facing upward and fill it with hot water, then use either a inferred thermometer or a thermal imager on the full radiator and that should give you a good indication of the water flow and heat distribution through the radiator.
Have laser one , all sorted now
Got to love a b5 😂I’ve got an s4 avant face lift, just fully refurbished underneath etc was only putting coilovers on 😅ending up new subframes front and rear now engine is out to change turbos an all gaskets 😂bug hey it’s worth it 🤦♂️love your content dude
The parts supply situation with Audi for older cars has been going on years, they really don't care not even for heritage stuff the Urq even 25 years ago they didn't care when parts for these cars went NLA. So now all the of the "newer cars" are going the same way, at least Merc and BMW do support older cars, your efforts to get both cars back on the road are outstanding btw, keep up the good work
Thanks for the video and story, really enjoyed it!
occasionally you get these so-called car repairs from hell. nice to see you still have your wits and patience .. i own a 2017 audi s3 and so far only replaced the waterpump and moonroof motor.. not cheap here in the states to replace but its a nice little daily driver. got enough power when i need it. glad to see your new videos. enjoy them very much.
Great content, it's a nightmare when you get them stuck on the ramps eating into your revenue
Professional as ever guys!
Great work Guys, as usual! :) And yes, too unfortunate for the older-great cars, and the lack of support/parts for them! I owned a S6 C5 in perfect condition, but due to the possibility, that someone can hit me / the car, and there is no parts to repair it, I have decided to part with it ;(
Such a shame Audi aren't providing a good parts supply on these aging RS cars. Surprising considering Porsche and Mercedes offer most parts on their modern classics (although usually expensive....).
good work looking forward for the content to come
Top show again ,great job ,keep up the good work .and well done
These cars will live you penniless 😭 but they’re so so worth it 🤞🏾
What a machine 👀
hey buddy i love watching you fix audi,s
Unfortunately they’ve stopped supplying OE parts too soon, we too have at our garage an RS6 C5 and a W12 D2 and the lack of parts is really a huge problem as there are no aftermarket parts for these kind of vehicles and you’d have to either manufacture it or improvise from other Audi parts. Shame to Audi for not standing behind their products as we owners do, other german brands still supply parts for their even older models, while Audi can’t do that for vehicles barely reaching the 20-25 years old mark. On to the cooling system of the RS6, i’ve owned 2 RS6 C5 both were driven in the Middle East and never had issues with overheating even at 50C and city traffic, the AC wasn’t that great when it was that hot but the cars never overheated, had a track-day with one one of them too and did great in that hot climate.
I thought I had problems restoring Rs4
3 years to solve a problem
Yes very hard to get parts
Great video , customer must have heart like a lion patients off a saint and pockets as deep as Elon Musk
My son says my audi must have been on every ramp in the country, , good luck to the customer and chin up 👍
Audi needs a classic program to keep parts for these cars going.
They do have Audi Tradition but it pales in comparison to other German manufacturers in terms of parts availability.
Is the exhaust flange stud decay (rust... whatever you want to call it) symptomatic of salt used on roads to limit black ice? or is it just a crap metal composition?
I saw an allroad 2.7 turbo for 1500 the other day in red aswell
Great vid. Really informative.
Super video.... really enjoyed it
I don't really think that was unreasonable for the amount of work that was done. You basically did a full renewal of the engine. At least the bits that are failing due to age like plastic, rubber and stuff. The owner can now be confident it will be good for many, many years.
People don’t realise about how much labour goes into cars and everyone wants everything done cheap, then blames the mechanic on something else that failed that was advised
When I had my RS4 w/DRC, I bought the DRC tool from snapon, even thought it would only be used for my car, by me. Partially because not many places had it but mostly because anyone who has it likely didn't now how to use it.
Helloooo welkome back :D
Holy shit, looks to me that the Limited Edition RS6 was a car that you should have avoided. But of course you don't know at the outset how bad things are going to be.
Great video as always
I have been a VAG technician for 25 years. I have a amazing c5 allroad which is a money pit but sorted. It's now summer here. It overheats at times. New heater core, plugged, which I have to back flush occasionally. New factory radiator. It still runs hot when I turn it off. New temp sensors x3. New afterrun coolant pump. New factory fan controller. After running pump and fan still no longer works? My wiring diagrams are confusing. Any ideas?
9 grand no f way just sell it for parts mate,by the way great video
It's obvious that Audi doesn't factor in long term ownership when designing their cars. I can't believe the size of those repair bills. Holy Cow! Seems like a good business to be in for you! ;-)
A mate of mine has a S3 hatchback Great fun to drive but I'm now questioning the long term reliability. He suggested I should get one. Needless to say given the kinds of stuff that fail I wont be walking into an Audi showroom any time soon.
Actual Use Devours Income. ;-)
Good video!👌🏽
Keep up the content love the chanel
can't find any update on rs6 plus how it ended
Put it back together, all good
@@VAGTechnic thank you sir.
rs4 a hefty bill for an older car ,,, but its a lot of car .
when you think of the years ahead its really not a bad investment , as long as you owned the car for a while first ,, if you had just bought the car and then had to spend that on top it would hurt.
very well spotted on the radiator issue , ok , well diagnosed as the internal baffles couldnt be spotted but theres no way you should be responsible for that ,,, fingers crossed all is good as it didnt really get a big cooking.
i just did 3300miles trip in august in my rs6 manual,we've just back sunday night,530bhp and 800nm and i just love it,sadly after 5years i have to get rid of it due to ulez shit!Was thinking to get b7 but i had one few yeas back and its just too small and fuck me,soooo slow!!!Great video anyway,have u did any c6 rs6?Think it will be nice replacement in terms of power and space,but they dont look that nice,prefer c5 look.
Here 40 hours of labour would be $6,800 plus tax so that was actually a lower price than i was expecting
Wooooooooop
arent there better aftermarket kits for doing the timing chains- they use alu instead of plastic etc
No
I am urgently in question of where is my power steering pump on my 2007 s4 b7?
Behind AC pump bank 2
Really don’t think I could’ve put 9k into that and then needing some more, think it would’ve had a thermal incident 😂
So how much money was RS4 work all in all?
Said in the video
Top ❤❤❤
You shoved that RS4 plates on the garage video...
Ah well, such is life.
I was asked to blur it in the video for the RS4 😀 done my best !
Had loads of radiators rebuilt or repaired cars vans trucks plant never had a problem my repairers will also tell you different prices for different cores ie budget against premium the cores are different tube diameter and the number of rows which leads to overheating if for instance you go for budget not saying this is the case but sometimes because of supply you encounter these problems
Regards stuck on the ramp choose a time where the owner or the supplier has to decide how long you will be waiting (a reasonable time in this case) for the parts without it eating into your revenue then charge for storage but that’s business great vid sorry to say been there and got the T-shirt 👍👨🏻🏭
Change the smoke detector batteries pls😅
May I ask what your labour rates are?
80£ + vat
That's very reasonable for the knowledge you have my local mot garage charges £60 and quite often they only want to do the basics. Oil change new discs and pads etc
Someone who has skimped on the maintenance in the past isn't going to come up with the full budget to catch that all back now.......
hello,maybe you need audi rs6 manifold? i build the parts
I wish Audi supported their classic models the way BMW, Porsche or Mercedes does. To Audi they are nice to use in marketing but they’d prefer you throw them away and buy a new Audi. Frustrating.
Over $17k Australian 😵💫
1:10 no animals on the road ? 😀
They are all dead because of the emissions from V8
the definition of money pit ! At 130k sounds like it's a write off, while many cheapo cars just get broken in . Is that what PERFORMANCE car should be like?
Do cheap cars Rev to 8.5k and have 420bhp ?
RiP RS6
why the hell would they stop doing just 1 of the timing chains 🤣
They almost kill the whole work on the C5 by stop making one thick O ring for pipe
Never buy an old S or RS model….to much hassle.
Only old Toyta Aygo is cool
I have a 2008 s4 avant - yes it requires some maintenance dollars, but its a dream daily about town
We have a trio of early 90s S4s with the 20v turbo five. They are far less hassle than the models that followed.
20 years isn't old 😂
Audi parts prices are absolutely shocking
Well you've finally convinced me ! DONT buy an rs 4 b7.😮
😲 Why ?
You must have thought C5 RS6 - had a crazy wish to buy one like 2 years ago. Glad I had some common sense and passed it. Then bought an Bmw m6 with V10 a year ago 😂😂
Knock on wood, has been running perfectly for the last 12k KM.
Reason there in that state people don’t get it done, they sell it on to someone else, then more problems happen
Why do so many Audi's suffer from issues with their timing chains?
heat cycles through the plastic chain guides over time , they fail.
Piss poor design decisions from the outset. They should have been made of aluminium with a plastic running surface. Would never have been a failure.
RS4 doesn’t have this issue.
Fit a V8 Lexus engine😅
On a limited run car, its no question it needs to be fixed. If not, i'll give him £500 for it broken and i'll get it fixed :)