New Defender - Rocks Poison Spider in MOAB!!!
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2021
- LEGIT! First New Defender up Poison Spider on 35's, Lucky 8 Off Road sliders, J. Auston Fabrications subframe lift and more! Big Bertha rocks this famous Moab trail!
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finally someone who uses the defender for what it was built for. bravo
Thank you, we agree… they need to get banged up a bit!
It wasn’t built for this. It was modified for this lol.
Heey, a lot of rich Brits are using it for London rocks and sidewalks!
He rebuilt it to what it should be.. to engineer a 4inch lift and attach 35 inch tyres is really impressive!
@@mtadc1545 who in their right mind would go there in any unmodified vehicle. You wouldn’t find a stock 4Runner or Jeep up there
Excellent Build. Purposeful - well done! I hope you will have one of your builds at GARR. It is nice to see our Land Rover friends warming up to the New Defender. Documenting your treks is a big part of that acceptance. Thank you!
Fun to be a part of it! Ordered everything for next build we’re putting together in August👍
Another great video showing how great the new defender is off road but also how it can be improved with the subframe lift.
Im feeling so good looking at u, when u re enjoying your ride and your machine, im happy that u have it and share.
This video made me smile the whole time! Beautiful car
Nice rig. I ran the entire Poison Spyder Mesa trail with a 2005 LR3 on 31s and a rear locker. Great truck that I miss greatly.
Amazing man! Great footage and quite impressive how easy it just walks over those big obstacles. Very very nice, great driving. Keep it up, superb videos!
Thank you! More to come… stay tuned!
Great demo of what the Defender can do. I probably won’t mod mine to the extent you have but very cool to see. Keep making these, it’s good for all the naysayers to see.
Thank you! More to come… stay tuned!
Great video and Great car.. Watch this twice ❤️🚙
I had a Defender for about 10 months. Having a 2021 Range Rover and having owned a 2018 Disco, I love the brand. However, when I got it, I was already using a modified 2019 4Runner TRD Off Road as my offroad use overlander and found that the Defender didn't meet my personal needs for offroad capability, and the independent suspension was a step in the wrong direction, for my personal needs. Just my personal needs, is all! It performed excellent, otherwise and was great fun!
That is it! I have nothing bad to say about the Defender and was a bit sad to let it go! I would definitely consider one in the future and recommend them to everyone looking for a fun light off roader, with extremely comfortable daily drivability lol! I made fun memories in the one I had!
I love seeing people using Defenders like this, so loved this video!
Great performance of the new defender …!!! Good video …!!!
Thank you!
that was a lot of fun to watch thanks
Thank you! More to come stay tuned!
couple of pucker moments there, nice build and nice drive
Fuck !!!! There's an advert for Landy. Never thought it was possible. Thanks for making this video !!!!!
Yeah baby, what a beast that D110 is.... Dam.
Love it, cannot wait to see the 90 build.
For sure! Unfortunately, our V8 D90 has been delayed… hopefully get in and will be ready for next spring…
I'm gradually warming to these new defenders, I've currently got the original RR classic 1976 and original 110 , very impressive!
i have a 95 RR Classic and took home a new D110 home back in March, only to see the V8 come out. I adore the new Defender and will be trading it in for a V8 90 ASAP
Snap although my RR is 1986. Also have a 110 V8 County Station Wagon.
Still not convinced on the new Defender. How is it better than say a new Range Rover? My biggest concern is no adjustable heavy duty tow hitch for pin couplings.
@@codprawn tows 8200 pounds and seats up to 7. It wheeled up Hells Gate in 27 seconds while the classic RR and the 130 both struggled to climb it for 10+ minutes each
Nothing I wouldn’t do I do in my 1999 Defender!
Congratulations!
Glad you had fun!
II have a 2004 Defender and I wouldn’t trade she for the new one, but to be fair the new model with bigger tires does have better off road drivability, unless you have done serious overhauling on yours.
Well done, keep it up man 👌
It performs like a Champ! Mine has a 1.5 suspension lift with the 33’ BFG’s and Yes it can go most places a Jeepster goes! But a bit more comfortable! Loving it! Cheers
I still want one of those Land Rover hats like you have on!
Thank you. We need to make some more of those again…
Amazing vehicle, and amazing performance. I like your response ("it is a different kind of wheeling") to those who point out that it lifts wheels in areas that provoke much wheel articulation . The modern go anywhere side by sides do the same thing. Something to keep in mind is that if one wheel is in the air it is causing no resistance, and creating more traction for the wheels on the ground. Dune buggies proved this years ago by running the Rubicon trail at speeds that were deemed to fast and thus were banned.
Good feedback!!! We’ll share in the future👍👍👍
You know how to drive a 4wd and it's good to see that, a smooth driver !
Good to see the Defender having a decent go!!
Wow! Super impressive
Superb!
Love it on 35s and a lift. What a beast!
That was epic
Skillful driving 👌
Damn with the right tire, that thing goes!!!
TFL truck don't care.
Finally a Landover that's not just a Mall crawler.🤣As you might expect im a jeep guy, but I do actually like this land Rover.
What a Champion driver
Very well done! I hope you will have zero issues despite the big mods. Purely because of trolls who are convinced Land Rovers are unreliable. Because I know the Defender is well engineered. And I also know there’s always a risk that some things might not be perfect yet, because after all it is an entirely new car. Best of luck, and have fun 🤩
Over 30k seat time so far and zero issues. A couple software updates along the way😎👍
This is what it should be called a weapon of mass destruction. lovely setup 👍
Brilliant guys this is what defender owners need all over the world
It is so capable off road and dynamite on road!!! Can’t wait to get our next build done!!!
Impressive performance
What a beauty😍😍😍
I'll still call it a Pretender for the lack of a ladder frame, but I cannot deny the incredible off-road capability of this crossover vehicle. Glad to see one of these at Moab, keep it up! 👍
Why would they build it on a ladder frame? A monocoque is stiffer. The only reason traditional off roaders use a ladder frame is because they are truck derived and share the platform with pickups etc.
@@siviter easier to repair a ladder on frame
Shootout time. New Defender Vs New Bronco. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Wouldn’t be fair . Truthful me admittedly a Ford guy loves the looks of the new Defender but stack it up with a bad lands Sasquatch Bronco stock with 35’s and a stock Def would would be in serious trouble .
This rigs setup is the WOW factor that Land Rover should have had for the Defender. The tyres and the rock sliders make it look very tuff. Best off road video of the defender capabilities I have seen. I hope you sent it to Land Rover for some tips.
Thank you! We’re really happy with how it performs and looking forward to our next build🤜🏼💥🤛🏼
@@cotrails8356 In case my comment is misunderstood by some. The new LR Defender is such a comfortable and beautiful vehicle to drive on road and off road and has some amazing engineering. It was a privilege to drive one on and off road. The interior design is so functional and rugged. I like the handle on the dashboard. I used that when off road as a passenger.
Unfortunately though it seems hard to customise. Having to trim plastic to fit 35s should change. The fact that you have to take the front plastic skirt off to reach the recovery point is also disappointing for something that is supposed to represent king of the off road. I like the tip of just taking that off when going off road and it giving a better approach angle as well. The new Grenadier is becoming more attractive with all the bolt on accessory attachment points and easy to service in the field design. Easy. (so they say as it is not proven vehicle yet). Like a parallel universe of where the Defender could have gone.
The point you made in this video or another of yours, about the Defender air suspension is great in that it is a different experience than front and rear live axles for off road. Not a worse experience. You just approach off roading in a different way of which many minds are not used to. So a bit controversial, maybe it is good to push the boundaries and warp the minds a bit. I hope it is not to costly to replace them when needed. I love how with air suspension you can lower the Defender for on road driving which is probably done most of the time.
I wish LR would promote more of the off road design, for example in one review, I read that if the electronics fails it is design to fail in a good way so that the vehicle is still functional and you can get the vehicle home. I want to know more about that.
I am a new Defender fan. I would like to see improvements though. No one seems to get it all right on the first of a new model release. I expect/hope that they will add improvements.
@@darren5160
I Follow what u say
LR USP is its excellent off road capability straight off the showroom floor, with all of their vehicles.
However
Very few people ever go off road, or need more capability then what their LR vehicle comes standard with
LR will sell about 70,000 new Defender worldwide in 2021.
The 90 model has only just been released
And, there are many more versions of Defender getting released over the next 3 years.
V8, 130 model, utility versions of 130.
Defender Sport model, and it’s derivatives etc etc
Most of these will never go off road, or do anything really difficult off road.
If the new Defender did not have comfort, safety, tech / features, and it’s a great / easy daily driver, it would not appeal to the masses, and sell in big numbers (for LR)
For those people who want more from their Defender, LR give u an excellent platform, and like Steve, u then modify ur Defender to suit ur own individual requirements.
ie a rock crawler, or overlander etc etc
There is plenty of info on the www regarding its electronic fail safe functions and the
ip64 ? rating of its ECM getting submerged in water etc.
LR have been using electronic air suspension on their product since early 1990’s ( or late 1980’s ? )
The Ineos Grenadier does look promising
The engines are current generation BMW 6 cylinder petrol or diesel
These r not basic engines.
They r high tech, and comply with various emissions regulations etc etc
I don’t think anybody stuck in a remote area, could easily fix an engine issue ?
Grenadier is meant to go on sale in the UK as of approx
August 2022.
Can’t pass judgment on it until then.
Grenadier is more utilitarian then a Defender
It won’t have as much mass market appeal as a Defender
It’s aimed at a much more specific target market.
The much lower forecasted sales volumes of Grenadier r appropriate for a small / niche company like Ineos.
JLR are a much bigger company v Ineos
JLR need to sell in much bigger volumes compared to a Grenadier to make a suitable ROI...
@@darren5160 stay tuned for our Trophy Edition on 37’s in Moab👍
Still like the looks of a classic 110, but damn is that capable.
There is part of me that wants all the haters to watch what you did and finally admit that the L663 gets it done. The other part of me wants to keep it secret to bask in Bertha glory.
It is very capable for sure!!! Will be running some other big trails later this summer/fall👍
no hater said it is not capable, it is just overcomplicated with hi tech that make the repair in distant locations impossible, for weekends in the wild it seems a legit option.
I'm not a hater. This thing popped tires off the ground way too much. It looked unstable many times. Off roaders know that you need to keep all 4 on the ground. This is no longer a true off roader like the old version with solid axles and amazing articulation.
@@dobbins2550 So what are you saying here? That the L663 is not off road capable - or? It is superior to other off roaders if you consider payload, angles, ground clearance and wading depth combined. Furthermore, for long journeys and overlanding in desserts the independent air suspension makes for much better ride quality.
@@dobbins2550 nothing wrong with lifting tyres. Solid axles are old tech and no longer relevant in a modern vehicle. I support independent all round and always have. What’s impressive is that this is super capable WITH wheels lifted so it can do the business with only 3 or 2 wheels on the ground which speaks volumes as others need all 4 down to make progress.
It sure is a true off-roader and it has amazing articulation considering it’s independent suspension.
finally someone uses a good off-road tire on a defender
Land Rover hit a home run designing this.
Man I wish my dealerships here would step up their game and actually do stuff like this. You'd be embarrassed at what one of the salesmen showed me with what he thought was off road, litterly a gravel speed bump. Can you sell to Canadians?? 😆
Sorry, we cannot export. I’m 25k+ seat time in New Defender now and it continues to impress me!!! Hopefully we figure out how to stuff 37’s under the next build👍
Thats what I'm talking about!
Love your few videos on the Defender, I do have one question do you have a video of your Defender getting cut up and modified to allow not only the lift but allowing to put on 35" Tires
I’m sorry. We did not shoot any video as the lift at that time was a prototype and the Supplier asked us to keep it on the DL
Awesomeness! Can I get one of these in SoCal kitted like this or do I have to plan a trip to Denver?!
Our San Diego store is not set up to do this. We can do here in Denver for you though...
4:52 damn, that's where the engineering pays off!
Wow
👍👍👍
I have 2004 treg, not quit the same. Would love to have a battle between the new and old
I see the Big Bertha is taking some flak after being beaten trying V Notch.
Strange that the people beating it up are fawning over the Bronco... the (only) one that didn't even try V Notch ;-)
Looking forward to your take of the same jaunt.
It’s all good. The other two Jeeps didn’t make it either… the mud hole at the base added significant challenge to that obstacle. Truly believe Bug Bertha would have walked up it with dry rear tires. I’m positive the Bronco would not have made it up with the stock lift that day.
Hello, what about the sway bars.. do you have them or have disconnect them ?
Man was the suspensions comfortable throughout
Naiiss
I love it but just can't get over how it has practically zero suspension travel and lifts wheels on everything. The electronics do a great job of compensating for it.
It is a very different style of wheeling for sure, but Big Bertha tackles everything we throw at it👍
@@cotrails8356 I still love it though, looks amazing with what you guys did to it! And its capabilities are very impressive. Happy wheeling! Looking forward to more videos! I'd like to get a 4 door with coil springs so I could put a proper lift and disconnecting swaybars. That would be perfect for me.
I agree with you. Was looking for this comment. I find it strange everyone is saying how awesome this is. I mean, its cool, you took an expensive Defender and made it off-road worthy. But damn, 0 travel, looks like its on rollerskates.
@@danielmembrillo6472 it definitely has to be extra hard on the drivetrain though
@@danielmembrillo6472 very consistent with 4Runner and Bronco. Yet it continues to wheel everything we throw it on…
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技術真的好👍👍👍
for sure it has strong front axles !!!!
Weuuu👀
Almost like a real Land Rover🤔
Well done! It's great seeing the Defender on the real trails. It still angers me you can't fit 17" rims!
Agreed… more sidewall is always better!
@@cotrails8356 , I'm still jealous of the 110, and looking forward to more vids!
@@ForgottenWaypoints stay tuned. Editing next video next week
Took my new D110 to Moab as well, bone stock from the factory. Was such a blast!! You guys going to build out a 90? Would LOVE to see it, im actually trading my 110 in for V8 90, cannot wait
We had planned to build our V8 90 but it has been delayed at the factory due to parts availability. We are currently building another 110 and hope to have it done this month👍
Wow I want to lift mine so bad now!
Do it!
What size? 😏
If I didn't have the Cherokee Trailhawk, I'd have the Defender.. I've found that one trick with 4-wheel independent suspension, at least for mine, based on ramp tests, is to run 4 psi lower in the rear than in the front. This will help keep all the tires on the ground as the rear often doesn't have enough weight to stay down. So let's say your right rear is off the ground, the lower pressure in the left rear that's still on the ground will allow it to compress more so that the right rear can come down some. This is limited to probably 1 inch of extra flex when you do this but hey, it's better than nothing. If you have already bottomed out your PSI... add 4 in the front. I'm serious. With my testing, I was best on corner travel with 26 in the front and 22 in the rear. When I had 22 on all 4 corners, it was worse. Science...
We’ve removed rear swaybars on last two builds… woke the truck up significantly!
@@cotrails8356 nice !
Awesome video! Can you give a cost breakdown of all the mods?
We (Old Defender owners) love to hate this car, but we must be honest: with a lift and right tires it does have a lot of off-road capabilities. Nonetheless we still have a lot of good reasons to hate it.
When I first saw the new defenders as a lover of the original, I figured that they would never come close to living up to the defender name… but having seen some of these they do alright, still like the originals more but I would buy one of the new ones
So few originals ever made it to the US, about 5k imported. We’re on 37’s with 5” lift on our latest build and running trails that 95% would probably never attempt. Really surprised everyone at the Great American River Rally in Moab with how well it performed! 27 seconds up Hells Gate while a built diesel 130 struggled some as did a Classic RR. They’re very capable… just depends on what you want. Plus, tows 8200 lbs 90 mph, seats 7, and has up to 518hp available👍
@@cotrails8356 it is a shame they didn’t bring a lot of bad defenders….. at least a few euro countries drive on the correct side of the road so I can still get one!
What exhaust is on this? Stock ? Sounds grt
I love your land rover I'm looking into purchasing one myself I don't know if you could give me a build list of the things you've added but I would like to copy whatever you've done . I will most likely buy the 110carpetian version Get all the packages they offer and then add on the stuff from your build
This one has:
2” J Auston Fab subframe lift
2” Lucky 8 lift rods
18” TuffAnt wheels
18” rear caliper conversion from Lucky 8
Lucky 8 Off Road sliders
35x12.5r18 Toyo Open Country MT’s
Some Trimming of front bumper and front of sliders
Hey do you guys have the diesel version, say D300 available in US? we have Petrol P400 and Diesel D300, not sure if you would ever want more torque offroading for this gentle monster? Fantastic build and cool ride!
Thank you… our latest build is even better on 37’s! No diesel here in US, unfortunately!!! Wish we had the available. Building a 110 V8 on 37’s this spring👊
Hi - the rock sliders (side steps) on your defender - what are they and where can i get them?
They are from Lucky 8 Off Road… highly recommend… they’re fantastic!
my dreams car
Mi da l'impressione di essere mastodontica....eccessivamente grossa, ma è bello vederla in prove tecniche di questo tipo.
It gives me the impression of being mammoth .... excessively big, but it's nice to see it in technical tests of this type.
What tires are you using sir? And did you have to lift the suspension by a few inches?
Big Bertha has 35x12.5r18 Toyo Open Country MT’s
Big Barry (just finished last week) has 37x12.5r18 Nitto Trail Grapplers
Your videos are much better than the big buck JLR official videos..
Thank you… we’re enjoying pushing the Defender into uncharted territories!!! Stay tuned!
Hi just wondering how many inches lift was that???
Thank you man.
This unit was on 2” subframe lift with 2” lift rods. We are now running 5” subframe lift on our latest build with 37’s
How was the car setup for this trail? Low Range and Configurable TR?
We configured as: Locked rear. More wheel spin, and more throttle response.
Is this white, or Hakuba Silver? (white currently isn't available in the X)
In terms of capability, which is better : the Wrangler or the Defender (both equally specced)?
Solid axles of the Jeep have more flex. Defender has more tow capacity at 8200 vs 3500 lbs, more seating (up to 7), 300 Hp/ 400 hp/ and 518 Hp powertrain options… I guess the answer lies in what you will be using it for most often. I had a 5 hour drive this last weekend and I chose the Defender over the 392 for comfort on a long roadtrip …
It's cool that you did Poison Spider, I love that trail. Its not easy. But the lack of flex on these Defenders is just appalling. It's just terrible. But these aren't meant to be crawlers I guess. PS- I did see a new defender (stock) on Hells Revenge the same week and it did fine on that easier trail.
Yes. Held revenge easier trail. Just have to pay attention and watch your lines👍
A real Land Rover owner
LR, always a practically capable machine. My choice.
Super impressive that a monocoque vehicle can do this.
Hi great video! 😬👍
What is the wheel & tyre combo
Makes, model & sizes please 👍👍
18” TuffAnt wheels
35x12.5r18 Toyo Open Country MT’s
4” of lift
Trimming
Relocated front coolers
I'm curious what's changed since the TFL video. The computer does not appear to be stopping at this time.
We run with more wheel spin & throttle in configurable mode now. We also remove rear sway bars completely
Im surprised those tyres didn’t get debeaded.
One day... well beyond our lifetime, these vehicles will have an "anti-gravity assist" option to take daring adventurers to even greater heights.
Will you guys be doing a new V8 defender on 37s/40s?
40’s will never fit. Hopeful to fit 37’s on our V8 when it arrives🤜🏼💥🤛🏼
Now I know why someone would take an $80,000 SUV off the road and into some sketchy situations, because they own the friggin dealership… LOL Not for mere mortals. Did Tommy and Roman from TFL Off-road put you up to this?
Maybe, but those tires aren't standard. However, I do believe that it is advantageous Land Rover to offer an off road package for their namesake.
Saw a brief snippet from a TFL video where it is cut just as the Defender looks to take a tumble onto its right side trying to climb a huge rock formation. My question is as always WHY? Get a Razr or something if you want to go extreme.
Defender- it doesn't need road. It can make it's own.
But ahh
It's looking special
Amazing, the side stair , is this available by landrover or did you do on your own? For such a tearrain a must.
From Lucky8 Off Road👍
At the end of the video it looked like your front end was lower than the beginning of the video it was it because of the steep hill and the weight on the front?
We had a fitting with a slight leak on one of the lines. Tightened it up and all 👍
I recently seen a video of a G63 being shown off; much like this video.
How do the two compare? If you could?
Thanks 🙏🏻
Love how the G63 looks and on road. I have never seen a G Wagon Offroad so I don’t have any experience either way…
@@cotrails8356 thank you for getting back to me 🙏🏻.
I love their look as well. Until recently I just thought of them as "wealthy ppl status", but that one video definitely made me have a different perspective
Nou is gut car and gut driver... Is a gut electronic...
That lift and tire makes it look 10 times better and more capable
Thing I notice right away, air bag suspension has no flex.
Air bags get stiffer the more you raise the suspension. Springs more comfortable off road.
Another epic video Steve
Your Defenders and content is 🔥🔥🔥
Does this white Defender have the rear E diff lock ?
When does the V8 get to USA ?
Who has the better RUclips content ?
You or Ben & NewDefenderMods...
🤣🤣. Jk. Jk
Thank you! We’re trying to show true capability on trail 95%+ will never dream of attempting. Yes, this one has rear locker. V8 will begin to trickle in during forth quarter in extremely small numbers. Next build hoping to put 37’s on👍
@@cotrails8356
Thanks for the reply
Much appreciated
It is a shame that so few people take their SUV off road.
However, most SUV don’t actually have much off road ability.
Defender is obviously very capable off road
It is great to c so much worldwide enthusiasm and sales for new Defender
A lot of people r going off road, and modifying their Defender to suit their requirements.
This is a good thing.
U certainly do show what a Defender can do
It’s great stuff.
I know someone in PA who is very likely to want a V8 110 in highest spec possible.
OR
They might go for an
F Pace SVR... ?
When the 130 comes out, one of these as a 5 seater with
D300 will be in my (Australian) driveway.
Looking forward to the next video.
Cheers. 👍
@@cotrails8356 whats the model man
@@autoverse3408 XDynamic HSE with P400. Rear caliper swap to fit 35x12.5r18 Toyo Open Country MT’s on 18” TuffAnt wheels