Jim Cornette Reviews Jon Moxley vs. Wheeler Yuta on AEW Rampage
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- From Episode 239 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Corny, after a 15 minute rant about everything that he hated about the match: "So, what did you think of it, Brian?"
Brian: "I liked it." 😂
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That's pretty much what Last does. Easiest check in podcasting. Now if chance to talk shit about Vince, Meltzer, or Jericho he'll be passionate with plenty to say.
I think it was universally liked
@@sy-ky_buddy4603 Their fanbase liked it, but it doesn't do anything for either guy long term. Moxley showed he's just as good as an underneath guy. The underneath guy that went toe-to-toe with the main event guy doesn't look any better because he's not that good. What is Wheeler Yuta? Where's the personality? What's his thing? It's not like when WWE made the 123 Kid competitive with Bret Hart. Kid benefited from that because he was special. Yuta isn't special.
@@sy-ky_buddy4603 i don't think so .
I love how Jim takes about 15 minutes to completely verbally destroy this and then Bryan goes: I liked it ! LOL
it was good, Jim is just a hater.
@@xKillZone99 With this logic, every detailed criticism is hate, why we are thinking at all...
@@crafciak31 I mean, of all people to call a hater Jim probably is the most apt lol
@@doodtheman2508 Your average twitter troll is a better candidate for that term in my honest opinion
Yeah, I thought that was the best moment of the whole thing.
I think Jim likes it more than he was willing to admit. But a match between Moxley and a member of the Pudding Gang just wasn't going to get a positive review. And I do agree that Wheeler looks like "just a guy" in the ring. He's got not physical presence whatsoever. And hopefully Danielson and Regal can legitimately mentor some of these indy guys into becoming better wrestlers, because some of them are unwatchable as-is.
You can't find a personality machine at the gym. That was a killer line from Jim.
I'm surprised Jim would know what's in a gym.
Bobby Eaton never found either
But at the same time he bitches that Steen needs to hit the gym.
@@State.of.Emergency Yeah, because wheeler is just loaded with that over personality.
What personality does Jim have
“They have never pushed Page like this and he is their World Champion”
Exactly. All the wrong pushes to all the wrong people.
To be fair, Page was a pity push, he was supposed to win during the pandemic; now they have Cm punk he will beat Page
@@evelynclare7827 the only thing pitiful about his push was the execution. If he continued to have great matches like the Danielson ones instead of the death matches and the 6 mans he would be a reputable champion.
Jinder Mahal was a better booked champion than poor Adam.
@@TomFoolery350 cause Jinder has more personality. Paige walks around like he SHOULDNT be champion, no swagger no charisma nothing
I don't even agree with that statement whatsoever. Page literally went 60 minutes, and won against one of the greatest wrestlers alive today, and someone who had main evented a Wrestlemania only recently.
I love it when Jim tries to bury matches and Bryan just chimes in with I liked it
I'd loved to hear William as a full time commentator with Jim Ross!
You ever notice Regal not commentating Mox matches?
@Jeff I can actually tolerate Excalibur, Tony adds nothing to the table
Tennay, cornette, mark madden, Joey styles, or have tazz do dynamite also.. any of the available would be great replacements for xcalibur
@@ericdravis815 Go figure...
@@ericdravis815 I noticed, and of course immediately thought storyline lol
That should be the name of AEW's next PPV. "Everybody kicks out of Everything"
Bruh 🤣
Wheeler with Regal will improve him greatly. He needs to work on his mic skills
Fuck that little promo he did on Dynamite was horrible.
When he puts some weight on, some height, finds a personality & charisma and wrestling psychology.
@@shannonbayley3684 And all of that, AND the mic skills, should have been developed BEFORE they did this.
@@segagenesis7708 Exactly.. just bad management
@Ryan Wilson Then who?
Let me tell you something brother. I was there at that Hogan Horowitz match back in 83 & while all the betamax tapes have long since turned to dust I can tell you first hand that the roof popped off the PlatinumDome when Hogan delivered all three of those finishers from all four corners of the turnbuckles and the top of the cage through the table on Horowitz only to watch in despair as Horowitz got up spit the blood back in Hogan's face and nearly stopped Hulkamania from ever happening. luckily all of us were taking our vitamins,and saying our prayers that day.
And then in the post match happenings, don’t forget that The Hulkster helped lift Horowitz off the mat, raise his arm, and then the Hulkster did the “Horowitz Pat on the Back” on Barry’s back in a sign of ultimate respect, BROTHER!
Hogan stole "that's not gonna work for me brother" from Horowitz
Cornette: *Spends 15 minutes trashing it*
Last: I liked it!
I miss the good ol' days when Brian Last let Corny rant. It's become a shared opinion show now.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid i like how brain doesnt have to be a drone. Jim thinks psychology from the 80s still applies today.
Jim is that angry old man that looks for reasons to yell at kids that walk by his house. He makes some good points. But overall is just an angry old prick!
Love Jim but I hate when he generalized everything. All Japan matches aren’t like that. And if I’m not mistaken this style basically came from ring of honor. Kicking out of everything to the point of exhaustion. Was it under Jim’s watch?
False finishes came from King’s Road style in All Japan. ROH took the influence. I loved it either way.
I think Jim would genuinely like some modern japanese wrestling.
Like ShibataーOkada, Ishii - Shibata, Naito-Tanahashi, etc.
Jim's ROH run was one of the worst.
Shibata is now Shipoopi
Okada has become OKody
He calls Ishii a baked potato and IshiiEEeeEEeeEeEeEeeeeeeeEEEE
He saw a broken down Tanahashi and didn’t get Naito.
Jim misses Giant Baba, Inoki, Tojo Yamamoto, Mr Fuji, and Tatsumi Fujinami.
Now I'm just wishing that Hulkster vs Horowitz match existed 😂
" ok brother point at me and flex "
@@averyl6372 lmao
Right! 😂
You too lol I was thinking the same thing would be something to see
It was on wrestlemania 38. Dark match pal
Hogan off a top rope lmfao.
That entire scenario was HILARIOUS!
Hogans feet never left ground. Lol.
Problem with wrestling now is Taker VS HBK had that match at WM25 where they kicked out of eachothers finishes and it was an amazing match. Now everyone uses that as the template of what a perfect match should be and constantly kick out of each others finish. What they don't seem to realize is that it worked with them because they ARE undertaker and Shawn Michaels. Now its just been done that many times since its just gotten to the same old shit feeling.
It happened before hbk vs taker
I am totally fine with kicking out of finishers- HHH v. HBK Hell in a Cell, it took 3 pedigrees before a badly beaten HBK was pinned 1,2,3... However, these things should only be done on big matches and/or stages, not on some random show. HAHAHA
They didn’t invent kicking out of finisher quit throwing blame
@@wake6937 they did not invent it, but pretty sure that they run it down to the ground every week.
"Pretty sure" means you can totally watch those every week.
It is like roll-up finishes in WWE
Think it started with the Austin and Rock matches
I remember william regal's commentary on NXT. It was brilliant, i remember thinking the same thing. His commentary elevated zayn vs cesaro at nxt arrival. Some of the best commentary youll hear from one of the greatest to ever do it. The man can do EVERYTHING
But will jerboni T Khan make him a permanent commentator no
@@Hakeem990 nahh he won't haha. Plus excalibur being there will just fuck it up anyway. And you know hes not going anywhere. Unless he makes a "homophobic" statement then hell be out before the sun goes down 😂
@@isaihvega9928 By god is that T Khan's secret
@@Hakeem990 HAHA maybe 🤷 not that theres anything wrong with that!
This seems like another example of if Jim doesn't like you, he will find reasons to shit on your match. If he does like you, then he'll look for reasons to praise your match much to the same degree.
Yuta kicked out of like 4 of Moxley's finishers while half of his blood was outside his body... Jim's right, Hangman hasn't had a push like that. They seemingly need to book Yuta like a demigod going forward if they want to keep it consistent.
@@bez_ people who never booked anything worrying about booking.
And if Jim likes you will defend you sexual predator behavior Rick Flair cof cof
@@bez_ yuta kicked out of one non-elevated paradigm shift, which was cool because someone on the tier of yuta isn't presented to be able to kick out of those at all. instantly elevated by that one kickout.
then later on, mox caught him with the *elevated* version which almost no one kicks out of in AEW, i might be wrong but I genuinely can't think of anyone that has straight up kicked out of that version. audience was convinced it was finally over and was ready to give them their flowers but then yuta kicked out again, seemingly on pure instinct. mox isn't fazed this time and immediately locks in a choke, where the ref determines that yuta is already out.
@@hiaimrandom4629he’s the size of my little brother it means immediately that mox fucking sucks and his moves mean nothing and it would have been a million timesss better for the “skilled shooter” to maybe prove himself a counter wrestling defensive savant instead of a fucking tank no?!!!? Lolz
Extremely minor opinion here. The match was obviously universally praised.
I believe the argument is, that as massive of a push that was, Yuta should not have been the one receiving it.
I can't get over how Jon Moxley is drawn everytime. 🤣🤣🤣😍
It's pretty accurate, his "badass" face looks mucho stupido
Like all the artwork. Poorly lol
Hey....I mean he does make that face
@@christopheramaro333 he does make that face lol😂😂
Straight outta South Park lmao
Garbage blood match guaranteed to keep this company at 1 Million viewers or less perpetually. Terrible from a business perspective.
One of the few reviews I have to disagree with. I thought they both put on a great match/ending to the show
And Jim would have too if it were someone he liked.
Too many false finishes to what should’ve been a squash match
@@EliC09 you obviously haven’t followed the story that’s been going on for months.
@@Jomon2006 he shouldnt kick out of moxleys finisher twice it makes mox look weak
@@Jomon2006 The story is that Yuta got squashed by Danielson and Moxley both, didn't win on tv, barely had a winning record overall. And without training vignettes, putting on any muscle, any guidance from anyone, getting wins on tv, suddenly is spitting in Danielson's face and going berserk on Moxley. That's the rushed story that they told, lacking a ton of detail.
Hahahahaha Brian Last after 15 minutes of RANTING. "... I liked it!"
Corny cackled @ him, too.
He's an aedub mark
His opinion doesn't matter
Cornball is like that angry old man that looks for reasons to yell at kids that walk by his house. He makes some good points. But overall is just an angry old prick!
@@ritamsaha9080 neither does cornettes opinion. It's an opinion everyone can have one thats the whole point
2 yrs later and Yuta is not over as a top guy…Jim was right again
Sorry Jim, can't agree on this one. This was an awesome match, with great storytelling.
And now if Moxley wrestles someone like Punk, what sort of match are they supposed to have?
It was a good match but the storytelling sucked because Yuta isn’t ready. Yes he’s a good wrestler but that’s it. He has zero star qualities and who goes to AEW to see him🤷🏽♂️ AEW didn’t see him as a star either because he has a singles recorded 2 wins and 4 losses in 2022. This is the company where wins and losses matters 🤦🏽♂️
@@segagenesis7708 Stop worrying about the booking and enjoy the match. Jim got people who couldnt book a 6th grade field trip worrying about future matches.
@@FrankGrimes9 I want to enjoy the match AND the storyline. You know, the way I used to and millions of others used to, before it turned into this ‘Well it’s still better than the current WWE’ shitty low standard.
@@FrankGrimes9 yep lol.. don't worry about booking.. don't worry about continuity, storytelling, logic, or psychology.. let's all just sit back and blindly love whatever they throw at us.. 🙄😒
Jim just doesn't like it because Moxley was in it, lets be real. If it was Dax or Cash or CM Punk and they had the same match step for step with the blood, Jim would love it.
EXAAACTLY!
I can never understand his hatred for Jon Moxley
@@karanrawat835 Because Moxley does "garbage wrestling" and Jim hates deathmatch / garbage wrestling. Doesn't matter what matches he had in the WWE that were really good, Moxley could wrestle a 10 star classic that everyone around the world loves but because Moxley did deathmatch wrestling, Jim is automatically going to hate it.
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Ah u dub marks just don't get it
I liked the match and I overall like the angle but Jim has a point. Wheeler Yuta being the guy to get this push seems like picking a name out of a hat. At no point prior to this angle did I think they needed to do something with him. Though to give him credit he hasn't turned me off either. I've seen the "we've decided we're pushing THIS guy" routine many times and usually I hate the guy getting pushed but Yuta is fine. No problem with the guy at all, but if he had retired two weeks ago I wouldn't have noticed. He's working hard, not screwing it up, good for him.
Yeah I really don’t see the big deal about the guy. He’s boring as shit!
Watch is indy stuff. Particularly his matches with Daniel Garcia. He's had some great matches on the AEW Dark shows as well. He also had some good ones during the Ring of Honor Pure Championship Tournament from about a year ago, as well.
But his position not random everything was laid out on Dynamite episodes leading up the climax on Rampage. The long-term booking motto is not just a gimmick.
Bryan Danielson picked Yuta along with a handful of other names of young guys that needed his guidance like Lee Moriarty, which motivated Yuta to prove himself and eventually get invited to join in with the Blackpool Combat Club.
In same promo Danielson mentioned Regal which caused him to come out of retirement become the head of the BCC.
During the initial part of his heel turn, Moxley rolled over Yuta raking his back in the process right around the time he blooded 10 and ripped his mask.
After Mox returned from his stint in rehab, in February he faced Yuta again. This time Yuta put up a little more of a fight and Mox raked his back again before finishing him off.
Then there was the tag match where Yuta declared his intention to join Blackpool Combat Club.
And finally the last in the trilogy of solo matches between Mox and Yuta on last week's Rampage where Yuta returned the back rake.
There's a video by Dave Knows Wrestling on King's Road Style, which was the type of wrestling performed in All Japan Pro Wrestling (and which eventually became popular in New Japan Pro Wrestling under the guidance of their current booker Gedo and main eventers like Kenny Omega and Okada.)
Among other things in King's Road phycology once you beat someone with a finish in a rivalry, it's going take more to beat them the next time. Christian and Orton had a great series of matches over the WWE big gold World Title where they would go hold for hold countering back and forth that kinda resembled what was done here.
Maybe Jim didn't pick that up when he was watching Japanese tapes in the 80's and 90's, but just because it doesn't have the same exact rules as a 1983 Memphis matches doesn't mean it's bad. There's a variety of styles out there and not just of one them is right and William Regal said this much on a recent episode of AEW Unrestricted. He's no Spring chicken and he spends a lot of time training the youth but he's not narrow minded thinking his way is the only way. This match fucking ruled.
Also on the Best Friends side of the story, Yuta was brought in to replace Trent (similar to Rocky and Trent tagging together in New Japan after Chuck went down with an injury and continuing to tag once he healed up which caused some heat between Chuck and Trent) Yuta basically took the pins and on weekly segments on Being the Elite, BFs would show him footage of the match, tell him he should have kicked out, then Statlander would choke him out. BFs feel like they put in time training him only for him to take the better offer and join up with BCC. In edition, Trent made it clear he never trusted Yuta from the moment he returned from injury.
I think Jim's slightly off with this. There's a story that's been built with Yuta and Moxley and the BCC that shows the progression and respect Yuta has earned.
Yeah between the 3 matches they had it has shown some improvement in Yuta.
Match 1: completely squashed
Match 2: almost there
Match 3: took multiple finishes to put him down.
Jim always gets me to laugh “if hulk hogan had ever had a submission move” I never thought of it but hogan didn’t have a submission
He did. There is a video of him giving some jobber the torture rack to win.
You should check out his stuff in Japan.
@@LatinaCreamQueen I’ll look for it on RUclips
@@armandogomez2677 Its his debut match.
I thought he used the Abdominal Stretch on occasion too
I severely disagree with corny. He got what he wanted with Yuta breaking away from the best friends and is bitching about it. Could’ve reduced it to one DDT kick out but still. But then he turns around and praises the Cody Vs seth match (I know it’s wrestle manie but seriously that many cross rhodes kick outs?). Anyway this match put a spotlight on yuya. Adam Cole is in a garbage feud with Page and Lethal is kinda being used again still skeptical on it. But come on Jim you got what you wanted and you’re sticking your nose up at it. Unreal.
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He already cast the dye and said Moxley and Yuta were the shits and now he's to prideful to go back on it because he's been proved wrong. What a sad old man.
@Andrew Vazquez The point is to elevate a young guy with potential. Adam Cole was already an established multi-time Ring of Honor World Champion BEFORE he did 5 years of wrestling school TV, in NXT. Cole literally had his second AEW World Title shot last night live in Dallas on AEW Rampage. He's also just entering his prime at 32 on the same night the 25-year-old Yuta debuted in a trios match for the Blackpool Combat Club, showing off new techniques he just learned like joint manipulation.
IMO, it doesn't make sense logically or storyline-wise to pick an established guy who's a stair step younger than the guys mentoring him. Mox himself is 36 giving him 11 years on Yuta while merely 4 yesrs on Cole.
In edition, I absolutely trust William Regal going with this lady, Yura, as he was ready to retire. I don't think he'd come back just for the money, and I'm sure HHH was making sure he was well compensated in his... what 11 years or so in NXT? Perhaps 14 or so?... So I don't expect him *not* to have input whenever this kid's name was first dangled in front of him.
Personally think Yuta is impressive, but I'm sure Regal could make chicken salad out of chicken shit, if he had to, to turn a phrase.
I think 20 years of WWE relying on just guys like Cena and Taker to pull them out of ratings slums and the like has made someone actually trying to elevate young talent rather than bringing a group like Nexus/The Corre up from development just to bury them, has made the act of elevating stars strange to some. Everything that AEW is doing, although it's old as time, it looks foreign, but I enjoy it. Works as a pallet cleanser for all the years of sport entertainment.
@Andrew Vazquez Cole is already established, plus he's the leader of one stable at the moment with ReDRagon and acting as the leader of The Elite, while Kenny Omega is out. It'd be redundant to have him join the Blackpool Combat Club.
If Yuta had all the tools that you described Adam Cole having, then what would be the point of him joining in with mentors? What would be the point of putting him with a group of guys that have stated that they want to mold young guys in to serious wrestlers.
I think you're going into this with the wrong premise which completely contradicts the point of the storyline and the reason for this stable as stated by Bryan Danielson when he did the initial promo name dropping a couple young guys, his pitch to teaming up with Jon Moxley, and finally Regal's debut promo and his reoccurring statements from his commentary during BCC matches and backstage segments.
Yuta has been in the Blackpool Combat Club for exactly a week. How the exactly would anyone be able to judge his "sustainability" already?
Cole got cocky and lost to Orange Cassidy... in a lights out match, who happens to the one of the most popular wrestlers on the roster, who gets some of the highest rated segments. Tully even stated in a interview, which was a shoot, that he got goosebumps from the crowd reaction to him getting involved with Orange's kick gimmick, pre-pandemic.
There is nothing for Cole to "rebuild." He's in a good spot and he's just had his second Heavyweight title shot in his short time in AEW. If someone who is literally coming off a heavyweight title match yesterday "seems like midcarder," I truly don't know how to respond.
Yuta actually *has* been changing his look recently. When he first started filling in for Trent he came in with a cyberpunk gimmick. He had a long leather jacket and wore a light-up cyberpunk mask that covered the bottom of his face. Since he started being courted by Blackpool Combat Club he's dropped the mask and switched to an old school wrestling members only or flight style jacket. It still organically fits his style as it matches the lined tights he's been wearing, but it also shows Regal's influence along with the in-ring direction he's been taking by adding the aforementioned joint manipulation and various styles of mounted punches he used last night. He's already looking more like a prototypical technical wrestler.
On screen he's shaking off the vestiges of his past, as well. As he told Best Friends a couple weeks ago, with his newly won ROH Pure Title dropped over his his shoulder, he doesn't want to be best friends, he wants to be the best wrestler.
Anything physically like with his actual body, like, muscle mass, as he's sitting at 199 lbs right now, like any young boy situations in wrestling, will happen over time message exposed to different diet and workout plans from his mentors, unless my thoughts about biology are off.
@Andrew Vazquez Orange Cassidy isn't a comedy character. He's a wrestler who uses humor in his gimmick. A comedy character would be like the Mummy or the Ninja Turtle. Orange Cassidy is wrestler with great win-loss record who has won a feud with former heavyweight champ Chris Jericho. The loss for Cole didn't count towards his record and kept moving up and became the number 1 contender.
Know one knows what's going to happen to Yuta because the jury's still out in him and the BBC are still in the process of molding him. So unless you a fortune teller, stop pretending you do. Jungle Boy couldn't cut a promo until Christian got a hold of him and now he's the World Tag Team Champion. Darby Allen wasn't well known before AEW and now he's a former TNT champ.
Dante is amazing and had some great moments when his brother was out injured, now that he's back they have to find a spot for the both of them. His singles record for the year is still there and he'll slide back into that role when it works. This isn't the WWE, just because someone is off of TV doesn't mean the booker has cooled off on them, they just don't want to shoehorn Top Flight on there without something meaningful to do.
Hogan and Rock and all those guys you mentioned are well established WWE talents and wouldn't fit in the BCC, at any stage of their careers. Whether you care about the story or not. The paying fans in the arena seem to like it judging by their reaction to Yuta during his matches with Moxley and Danielson and them changing his name last night in Dallas. They're molding high work rate technical guys in the vein of William Regal, Bryan Danielson and Jon Moxley. And they seem to be looking for more than a promo calling someone hermie and a leg drop. WWE doesn't even have the next generation of those guys and that's their style. But if you're looking for that, a Peacock membership is what? 5.99? With a couple clicks you can watch all that old stuff you seem so very fond of
Applying those WWE standards, brother, to an AEW show with a much different fan base will leave you almost as miserable as old JCE.
Some Peacock and a little nostalgic sounds more up your alley. The good old days, right?
Yeah I completely disagree with Jim on this one. This match was amazing.
Barry Horowitz was an 80s God in pro wrestling...way better than 18 wheeler and Con Spoxley
Never heard of the jobber
@@wake6937 icon in the 80s. Brooklyn Brawler, Barry Horowitz and Jim Powers was workers I enjoyed watching back then.
What a time 😀
@@vycanismajoris6871 sounds like a jobber never heard of him
@@vycanismajoris6871 only old people talk about him
@@wake6937 Never heard of this wheeler yuta guy until now, I guess that makes him a jobber too, and only kids talk about him.
People were smarter back then:
Yea idk about the people who thought pro wrestling was actually real were smarter.
This has already been discussed a long time ago
People who are "smart" to the business aren't exactly very smart either. Just go on twitter and you'll know.
How about modern fans cheering for a heel untill the company decide to turn him babyface and then complaining about the company for "ruining" him ? Or those who ask for a refund only because their favorite wrestler lost in the main event ? Or maybe those who believe everything they read on the internet ?
@@Azgoon69 To add to your list...those who argue over ratings for matches given by an old nerd (who is basically, just a fellow fan and has never actually worked inside the business as a wrestler/promoter)?
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To be fair Daniel Bryan is the one who mentioned Wheeler Yuta as one of the guys he wanted to tutor/work with, and some other unknowns back when he was making his pitch to Moxley to join forces together.
everything is terrible except when I'm involved.
-Jim Cornette
Exactly.
Or people he likes
@@johnarmstrong3479 nah he don't seem to like shit and all his sheep hate what he hates
Jim just doesn't like Strong Style... doesn't like Lucha... he likes a specific type of wrestling and cannot understand why their are more options on the menu in AEW. Match was fantastic. They built a star of of Wheeler in a month's worth of TV. He needs new tights though.
He also needs to learn how to talk. He also needs to learn how to carry a storyline. He also needs a new name. And building a star that quickly rarely, if ever works, for a reason.
I will agree the match was great but Yuta needs to change up his character, he actually needs to start doing promos and change up his generic ring gear. He has a lot of potential now that he is in BCC but it will mean nothing if Yuta doesn't change anything about his character.
@@segagenesis7708 He just needs to be given an opportunity to talk... he isn't bad. His name is fine, but those tights have to go.
@@jeevesosiris Wheeler Yuta is fine to you?
@@jeevesosiris All of this should have proceeded this match and it would have felt more natural. Much like Adam Page, they are putting the cart before the horse.
15:34 perfect comedic timing lol
You got that right! 🤣
Jim is nearly completely out of touch lately. He is spot on sometimes but this was an awful take. This match was fantastic. I myself am a fan of old school catch wrestling, but Jim needs to swallow and accept the fact that the audience is different nowadays. This isn't 1986 anymore.
The audience being different now is the exact reason wrestling will never be more than niche entertainment for a small group of people. The problem isn't that the match itself wasn't good; it's the booking of it in the first place because it makes no sense. The modern crowd just accepts everything as long as they can clap at the pandas doing tricks for them. Whenever I hear a fight forever chant, I vomit a little.
Yeah I didn’t expect him to like it. Just wait until Cornette sees the Suzuki-Joe match - boy that rant will be epic.
Idk I think it's 50/50 he likes Joe but he doesn't like Japanese strong style
@@appreciatelife1009 the "afterbirth" Corny will definitely blister that.....and rightfully so
I don’t think he’ll appreciate the 5 minute chop fest to start the match 😂
@@connorschaferTDC Oh for sure he's gonna rip that to shreds but outside of the chops and forearm stuff I think there's a 40/60 chance he'll like it
That match was nothing but slaps and chops
I'm starting to think John Moxley touched Jim in his special spot.
Nobody ever talks about that cornette HATED the hottest period in wrestling history when it was current
Parts of it
I so want Yuta to be a world champion now... Just to hear Jim.
Going to disagree with Jim, I liked the fact that Wheeler was able to get the crowd to get behind him.
I think the point that Jim was making was that the match would've gotten anybody over so why Yuta? If you put Angelico and Jungle Boy in a cage with ladders, tacks, furniture, and finisher kickouts for 30 mins, both guys would get over. Meltzer Five Stars. Everything else in AEW would get diminished so now everyone would want to do that and bitch if they weren't allowed to.
But Wheeler didn't do that, all that video game shit did.
@@mjcastro82 because yuta is awesome… i think hes better than jungle boy and sammy
that’s not hard when the crowd are marks, dude
@@ASwagPecan your a mark too though. 🤷🏿♂️
I watch Cornette because I respect his opinions, not because I agree with them. He was a big part of older wrestling, however nowadays he just seems to crap on anything that isn't like that. He's stuck in the past and doesn't want to see the present. I loved this match and I think yuta is a great wrestler. I can understand why he didn't like this match but at this point he's just an angry old man yelling at the sky.
So you can understand his point, meaning you believe the point has a thread of legitimacy but you still think he's shouting at sky?!
Interesting.
He is literally zero percent different from any of the other young small 205 Live wrestlers that never got over. Literally any of them could do the same if booked to. That is the problem. Literally same thing they did with Sammy Guevara in his big match with Cody with the idea of “give him a good showcase and he’ll get over” and look how not only un over he is now but anti over cause of the tay conti crap.
Someone should've gave Barry that pat on the back.
If Hogan patted himself on the back after winning that it would have been the greatest angle ever.
The thought of Horowitz Hulking up vs Hogan makes me 🤣
He’s stuck in a perpetual cycle of saying what people like is bad lol go tell that audience who was there losing their damn minds that this was just bloody horribly booked mess.
"It popped the people in one small room"
Raise your standards
I guess we’re not supposed to push a young stars to grow the company via cornette
Cornette has to come up with a video apologising if Yuta ever becomes World Champion of something.
This should be good long term booking
Apologize for shitty booking? Why?
He still wouldn't because he's a pigheaded narrow minded fool who's stuck in 1970. He'd find away to back out or do it backhandedly.
Jay Lethal is as "marketable" as a kidney stone. He is the centerfold on why ROH was almost dead.
lol damn
Disagree with Jim here, thought it was a really good match, helped elevate Yuta and progressed the story between the 3 and Regal well.
Yeaaaaa…….but Jim was in wrestling and you wasn’t HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So all they gotta do now is have something that resembles the Hart and Stone cold match where Austin passes out. Just have a variation of that and y'all will eat it up. Fuck it, pick any of the dozens of comedy jobbers on that bloated roster that no longer appear on TV to have an epic with Mox or Danielson so they can suddenly be top dawg in the company. Why not right? Shit, make it Danhaussen or any of the dark order guys. Fuck it, put that guy that's always with the bucks who's had a broken nose for over a year and constantly has to wear that goofy ass mask in the match. Make him an instant legend with the "smart" AEW crowd. Because it's wrestling and doesn't matter right?
No wonder AEW can only appeal to the “smart” fans because of stuff like this. Jim Cornette is right, of all the people to put over like this they could’ve used literally anyone else but they chose this guy. Punk is a better fit for that group than Yuta anyways
Ever wonder why there are less people watching wrestling? Influencers like Jim cornette
MORE PEOPLE WATCHED CORNETTE
@@darrengordon-hill technically, more people LISTEN to cornette, not watch him. Jim is normally not the type of person who wants to be watched by a lot of people
I hope Tony is listening to this, make Wheeler Yuta your world champion. I wanna see this video from Jim😂
He is not going to ever be that, only ROH world champ.
@@albaniampureana8602 is that not Tony’s world champion then. Trying to ruin the joke smh
Wheeler Yuta reslly is like a very poor man’s unimpressive version or Katsuyori Shibata
Do NOT insult Shibata by even using his name in the same sentence as that scrawny boring fuckhead Yuta(unless you're bringing up the fact that he got his ass kicked by Shibata and lost his title to him like he should have). In my opinion he should be compared more to a guy like Yoshi Tatsu. Boring unimpressive and more hyped up than he deserves to be.
Unless they’re planning on pushing Yuta to the world championship over the next six months (which why would they) then this was completely pointless
It was to give the BCC more gravitas. Seems like they are forming a fight club.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why did people even think Corny will like this match?
This match was obviously entertaining but imo Wheeler Yuta is really lucky that he was in this spot.
He just won the lottery
Not really he just got a big push by winning the Pure Title during the first major ROH PPV in a year under new management.
Yuta carried Mox. Hell, Yuta got a better match out of Mox than Danielson did at the PPV.
@@chinafuture6484 Mox was the reason Yuta got the best crowd reactions of his career. Carried my ass.
@@kayoh310 LMAO! Mox can't wrestle. On the rare occasions he tries to do an actual wrestling move he botches most of the time. Mox can't even really call himself a pro wrestler, he's just a drunk thug. Simp harder.
@Og Shingo Yuta just literally won the Pure Title championship on PPV in a great match it gave him momentum and this kept it up.
The booking of the match got Yuta over but I don't think it will sustain. I cant see him holding a story without Danielson of Moxley.
Which is why they shouldn't have done it. Hogan, Savage, Taker, Hall, Nash, Austin, Rock, Foley, none of them had to be overly protected. Goldberg did and that's one reason why he started hearing smatterings of boos shortly after he beat Hogan, and they literally started piping in his chant. They did the same thing with Page. All of the stuff they TRIED to do with Page AFTER he won the belt, should have been done BEFORE he won the belt.
Did you see stone cold as the ringmaster holding a story?
Theres no real booking philosophy in all friends wrestling
It's already fizzled there is just something about Yuta that makes him stand out in a crowd for the wrong reason.
He wasn't dorky or charming enough to be a best friend and he's certainly not ruthless or violent enough to be a Blackpool combat club member.
Hes just there.
@@kreed82 he's a guy who can flip a switch. Plenty of real life successful athletes who are bland nice guys off the field but once in uniform turn psychotic. That's his gimmick whether intentional or not
Cornette doesn't even sound convincing anymore. He knows what he is saying is nonsense.
He has to rant for every match .Wheeler yuta is a star.
He's a closet aew fan
Brian Last is having to question the logic of Jim’s criticisms more and more these days, I notice. Don’t know what Moxley did to Jim one night when they were both drunk but maybe it’s time to stop reviewing his matches.
Moxley sucks bro, garbage wrestling mark
Ddue its because this generation is stronger tjan steve austins era. They been through everything on the indies which is why they are able to kickout like that. New gen tops old gen all day
@@nathantturnert1631 WTF?!
@@nathantturnert1631 Ha. I have to admit the constant kicking out annoys me too - even in the FTR Briscoes match - but it worked here. He was the guy pushed to his limit by weeks of abuse finding reserves he didn’t know he had.
@@travisheckel3788 Don't you even start w me again Art boy!
If this match happened 20 years ago it would literally be Funaki vs Hardcore Holly.
If it was 20 years ago Jim would be praising it hahaha
Jim never liked ECW
Or Funaki for that matter
@@radandpaisley he hates ECW and so do I
@@vb2806Jim's literally praised ECW Heyman and worked in their Raw Invasion in the paat. He doesn't like garbage wrestling but has praised their talent as much as he's shit on it.
Brian: I liked it!
“So I watched Yuta and Moxley and was in an even worse mood afterwards” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cornette: "Make new stars!"
AEW makes a new star
Cornette: "No not like that!" Wtf haha...
Who's the new star? Or you mean introduce new, forgettable, insignificant nobodies...they seem to excel at that 🤔
Jesus, for the love of God, stop using the phrase "making a star" to describe every fucking young baby face match.
I think Jim is full of himself.
Lol, As if you understand this process better than Jim. You're not even in the mood to listen and learn. You already think you know better.
@@segagenesis7708 Jim is trapped in the eighties. Apparently you are too. Jim's idea of must see wrestling was chasing someone around with a tennis racket. He got a lot of nerve to dump on Yuta. Might be an ok wrestler? Maybe Jim should watch some of his matches before he shoots his mouth off. Just saying. If Jim's opinion means so much, why aren't the wrestling company's beating down his door for his expertise. (mic drop)
What Brian said about finishers is true - I remember when Warrior kicked out of Hogan's leg drop, my god.
Today, he'd kick out of 3 before losing via roll up
Imagine Yuta becomes AEW World Champion next week because of what Jim said
Nah it will be the great Khali 2.0 as the next champion 😆
AEW ppl listen to his podcast and even take ideas from him so I wouldn't doubt
@@SF-rn6ng I saw someone call him “Good Khali” xD
@@FecalMatador I feel sorry for Joe who will have to work with that guy lol
@@SF-rn6ng And he JUST got there. If you know the man is older and you know the man is injury prone, WHY would you program him with THIS guy?
I'm still slightly confused "specifically" why Cornette has such a dark hatred for anything connected to Japan or Mexico wrestling. All wrestling now or 50 years ago including his stuff has at the surface been gaga nonsense and nothing but dumb brainless fun to enjoy. Yes there's skill and athleticism and some do it better or worse but just lumping "All lucha is bad" or "All Japanese style is bad" is such a weird small minded simpleton take. who care if 1 guy out of 200 likes strong style lol or 1 guy out of 200 does very gimmicky lucha stuff. Unless suddenly CM Punk was like "Screw this imma wear a mask and be a high flyer" why even care if moxley wants to do this stuff. He's not the best but he knows his character I doubt anyone denies that. As for Yuta, I can see anyone even Orange holding the belt even if it's like a week lol so Corny someday might make that video.
Jim is a new age liberal. He likes things that are different as long as he doesn’t have to see it or have it near his house
I hate the fact that Yuta kicked out of Morley’s finisher. Why? Who is Yuta? I rather AEW elevated Lethal or Jungle Boy instead.
Damn I wanna travel to a parallell universe and witness Hogan vs Horowitz 🤣🤣
Jim cornette is just jealous that smoky mountain wrestling failed...
He's also really biased, and that's a fact...
Lol I would love too see him react to ufc featherweight fight.
Exposing Jim's real world idiocy forever
Jim is broken. It was bloody. It was great. Dude complains about realism then hates on one of the most gutsy matches in recent memory.
Sorry but I don't agree with jim here. His preconceived notion of mox has made him not see this for what this match was. The story is simple, mox squashed yuta the first time they met, then had a slightly more competitive match the next time and finally was taken to his absolute limit. And the thing about the finisher kickout is that i've been regularly watching AEW since this past summer and i haven't seen anyone ever kickout of the paradigm shift. So when yuta kicked out i literally jumped out my seat. And since the past 3 week, we saw how yuta wanted to get into the blackpool combat club. He got slapped by regal, had a great showing against danielson and this was a starmaking performance by him.
Exactly. He’ll hate anything Moxley does like he’ll hate anything Omega does. Omega could cure Cancer and Jim would scream “he wrestled a sex doll, fuck him”
@@pwrdrive That's brian's(last) line from the omega daielson match😂
So now, Yuta has to handle being booked as a top guy. He has to talk like one, look like one and continue to put on matches like one, and now Moxley has nowhere else to go with any other opponent in the future or it will basically look like the exact same match.
@@segagenesis7708 No, Yuta is still not World championship material yet, but right now he's just a peg lower than sammy G
@@ANXTREME He just kicked out of two paradigm shifts and refused to tap to Moxley. There’s no way down from that. It would make other top guys Moxley faces, look like shit.
What, you’d rather have Yuta going back to Best Friends? C’mon....He’s better off joining BCC, learn under Regal, Danielson & Moxley, get him more winning character along with his considerably good ring skills.
It's not about what he's better off at. It's about completely rushing him into this spot. Where was the extensive weeks of frustration with the Best Friends. Where were the wins on television once he developed more of an edge that separated his mentality from that of the Best Friends? Where was all of that? It was barely existent. This whole thing was rushed and nobody outside of the same fans who will watch AEW regardless, is buying this.
It was a good match, for those that like that style of wrestling. I didn't mind it but Jim was NEVER going to like it! 😂
As for kicking out of someone's finisher, leave it for the championship matches, when it matters most!
Because we'll see Moxley go out and have this exact same match with someone like CM Punk and they'll expect us to buy it.
match coulda been 5 stars and Jim would still cry
@@xKillZone99 If it was a Meltzer 5 star match, it wouldn't have been that great anyway!
@@xKillZone99 5 star by who? Psychology matters, moves don't. I would rather watch a Rock and Austin match a million times than anything Kenny Omega or Mox does.
@@vb2806 dude stop being a mark. you obviously didn't understand my comment
"Fight forever" is the dumbest chant I've ever heard
Neckbeards man.
It was cool as a one time thing. unfortunately it caught on, like the plague
Oh don't get me started on that shit. 'Fight Forever'. The dueling chants. 'You deserve it'. They don't know who deserves what. They don't know what's going on backstage. They don't know whose putting together the matches. They don't know any of that.
@@segagenesis7708 And don’t get me started on the silly “WOO” chants after EVERY chop.
@@segagenesis7708 You forgot "this is awesome". That's massively overused as well, and annoying af.
I already know what Suzuki vs Joe review will sound like.
It's that time of the month for cornette
Jim claims he wants realism. In real life, there are no jobbers. So Jim doesn't want realism. He wants 1960 wrestling that nobody would pay money to see anymore.
LOL, exactly. Remember when he said this about Rhea Ripley, "she's a worker, she takes her time". Nobody "takes their time" in a real fight, fool.
@@duckmercy11 Wrestling isn’t real but your supposed to make it look real and have it make sense
He, as most wrestling fans want this crap to at least make sense and be entertaining as a wrestling show and not as a circus as it has become
He's becoming increasingly out of touch, and I'm a fan of older wrestling. His lack of critical thinking it's starting to ruin a lot of these videos. Times change, and the audience has changed.
what do you mean? mma has plenty of tin cans they book when the want to build to a big match.
Another video where Jim is just hating something AEW did because it's AEW... Brian is definitely noticing Jim just hating this because it's AEW and Brian is just holding himself back from arguing
Imagine if Jim reviewed movies. But reviewed them like he thinks the audience is suppose to think the movies are real.
“What the fuck is Tom Cruise doing in this bullshit sci-fi version of Groundhog Day? He’s just giving it away that he wasn’t really The Last Samurai! And the DVD has the behind the scenes footage! WTF!!!! How are they just going to give away the business like that! What a fucking joke!”
Wrestling is not a movie
@@Sindr0mYEAH Calm down Reigmon Rons. It was a joke.
@@rolie25 Reingmon Rons? What the hell is that? 😂😂
@@Sindr0mYEAH That's what me and my friends call Roman Reigns. I misspelled it but we pronounce it "Raymon Rones".
I don't care what some of you in the comments or Cornette wanna criticize about this match. This match was great. Yuta was trying to prove that he wants to belong and that he wants to be taking seriously and not come in the business to make friends. The story from the start was about Moxley and Bryan taking the younger guys in AEW like Yuta and Moriarty under their wing and helping them reach their potential and be better wrestlers. But some of you guys just wanna find negatives all the time when it's AEW and get a laugh. It's like there's no winning with this fanbase of Cornette's. AEW push a guy that is well known you complain that AEW is pushing ex WWE guys and can't build their own stars. Than AEW is trying to get over a new guy in Yuta and you guys complain and wanna mock him and compare him to a jobber.
The problem is that Tony wants to push "all" the smaller dudes. Yuta. OC. Dante. With the exception of Wardlow, not many are bigger.
Why not do this sort of booking with Hobbs? Archer more? Comoroto? Some of the bigger guys?
It's all about the smaller, skinnier, flippy guys with TK for the most part.
@@jeremykeplinger8955
The big guys will get pushed to the top at some point. I don't know why you guys get on the little guys all the time. No matter rather a big guy or a small guy is being giving a big push in today's wrestling it's not like is gonna draw a bigger audience in anyway like back in the 90's early 2000's.
💯 fantastic match
Jim doesn’t like Moxy but loves Charlotte the botch machine….
Charlotte is buffer than majority of the AEW Roster and talented.
@@zeddylong9596 Don’t kid yourself…
Both Mox and Charlotte are terrible
@@stevonwhite8933 have you seen Adam Cole?
@@NoctuaOlivae Have you seen many people? So what? You all claim to not be sheep but, follow every whim of a man’s word.
This was an outstanding match. And the finish was unique.
Yep it was fantastic
I enjoyed the match quite a bit. But I do find merit in Jim's criticism especially of the kicking out of everything stuff. They should've had him counter all the moves making him live up to the title of 'pure' champion. He is small so that's a problem having him kick out of some pretty devastating moves. Have him show his tenacity by just getting out of moves any way he can instead of just tanking everything which isn't very believable. You could say that he was running on adrenaline and treating this match as if his life depended on it but still, there was a better way.
On a slightly different note, I sincerely wish we had to hear less of Excalibur on commentary, not that I think he's bad but he's annoying sometimes and having to listen to him every damn show, even on RUclips, it gets extremely repetitive. He doesn't really have different modes, it's pretty monotonous listening to him which is a big problem because he always does most of the talking. Regal is by far the best commentator they could have. If I could get a duo of Regal and JR weekly on any show (as many others have mentioned in the comments), that would be perfection.
Jim you're all about a dollar man, sitting here revealing when the wrestlers communicate. Ffs tou really gave up on kayfabe because you gotta fit in w all your old buddies and you're tryna be the best know it all. Quit exposing eevry little thing there's still ppl that dont know all the details.. they might if they keep listening to you.
AEW have no storylines it's just random matches with no build up or reason why their fighting.
This man had a massive story line just because you don't follow it doesn't mean it isn't there.
@@KagatoAsuka what’s his storyline?
His story is he wants to be the best wrestler, so he wrestles Danielson, and Moxley to the limit
Moxley has the same hair due as Warren on There's Something About Mary LMFAO........... (Angry Face) "He broked it..... He broked it"
GOLD 🤣
I mostly watch Cornette for comedy purposes. But this just proves that Jim can only accept things in his small headspace. If it's outside his very narrow realm of interest it's trash according to him
It's weird that's what you took from this and none of his actual points
Ain't that what everyone does ? If you don't like something you won't praise it..
@@mattharper1242 Corny is right about this being every Moxley match but Tony is obviously trying to push the kid, Yuta is talented and deserves the push. For me the only problem is that this match was with Moxley
I can even understand liking the match... But it is just constant hot shotting and ultimately nothing means anything. There are more effective ways of building talent
@Ryan Wilson let's reverse uno card this. I have watched a lot of videos where Jim just shits on Kenny and Moxley so his opinion on them means nothing. He is obviously a WWE troll
I am not much of an AEW guy. I am a New Japan guy
PowerHouse Hobbs and Ricky Starks are Stars, Wheeler Yuta isn't. Yet Khan doesn't push them, he pushes guys with no charisma, personality just because they can squirt pints of blood.
Man! I have to agree 💯 with Jim here. They haven’t even pushed Adam Page like this.
It’s true. Wheeler lacks charisma. He’s plain. I wish that opportunity was given to someone else as well. Even Daniel Garcia.
Jim didn't like this? ahahaha good lord. Credibility = 0
I felt that they did way too much in this match. There was no need for someone like Yuta to kick out of 2 Paradigm Shift finishers. Don’t get me wrong. I do understand that they are trying to build up Wheeler. However, there has to be a better way without making Moxley’s finisher weak.
I agree with Jim 100%! tired of everyone thinking a good match involves blood and multiple kickouts especially with a guy that's still a jobber
You just described Darby Allen!
@@Enginshim you're exactly right! he is so overrated in my opinion
All you have to do to have a top match for some fans is a bunch of big moves, kick outs and some blood.
@@MPK112233 And you have to sell... and you have to have intensity... and you have to deliver convincing looking moves that make fans think you're going to win.
@@billywashere6965 no
I'm just saying: if this had been Punk vs Darby or Danielson vs Jungle Boy this would be a glowing review filled with nothing but positives, it's just that Jim couldn't compliment Moxley with a gun to his head
Or Moxley and Yuta just isn't a good matchup, stop being butthurt.
Valid point, but Wheeler Yuta is mediocre as fuck. This guy has little to no chance of ever being a big deal in pro wrestling (outside of AEW).
This aged badly before it even was posted because if he hates anyone more than he hates Moxley it's the Young Bucks and he just dropped a glowing review of one of their matches.
@@ceasarsanchez9086 yep, ol corny can't compliment more than 1 that he hates in a one week span of time otherwise we'd all say hes getten soft in his old age lol
@Joe Cool82 agreed 🥱
It's more realistic to have blood than not.
When people get into a real fight, they get bloody more often than not. (Bare knuckle fights, UFC, boxing, street fights etc..)
Unrealistic to have people fighting for 10 minutes plus and there is no one bleeding.
I loved the match but even watching it, I thought it was so bad for Yuta to kick out of the blockbuster Paradigm shift. Moxley is a former AEW champ and a top star. Top stars didn’t kick out of the paradigm shift and this younger guy gets out of two of them
And corny is right, a bigger star on their roster could’ve greatly benefited from this treatment that yuta got.
People dont consider the 'moment' of it all. It showed the die hard of that Yuta's current mindset. Normally he wouldnt have kicked out.
That was the point of it all...Yuta was trying to earn their respect by showing his toughness and grit. If he lost on the first Paradigm shift he's not joining the BCC. But he kicked out twice. This giving Moxley that "WTF" look on his face as he's shocked this kid is still able to move. It was effective & got Yuta over. Moxley just did wonders for Yuta. Stone Cold and Rock kicked out of Rock Bottoms and Stunners all the fucking time and nobody (Corny included) ever bitched and moaned about it.
@@BlueTurretGaming No. The match was amazing. Watching it on its own with no context 10/10 HOWEVER in a wrestling program you need long-term storytelling booking etc. Having the 10/10 amazing match with these 2 people did not make sense with how everything is presented on tv. Yuta will lose next week to some random guy and you will question for wut.
@@nikoladzhurov1800 I didnt say it wasnt. I was defending the match.
@@BlueTurretGaming Nobody was saying the match itself was bad. The physiology of who did the match and how it happened is what everyone is railing about. The in-the-moment thing is not justified if you look at the whole story. If they booked it for example after he had the 2 losses to still give him a chance to mentor him have him get like 5 wins before the next PPV each more convincing than the next. Then have this match with mox or brian on the PPV. That is now a 10/10 match with a 10/10 story behind it that makes sense. Not the match just being done out of the blue.
Sadly AEW has the same problems as all other wrestling promotions. They just have bad creativity and booking and nobody thinks these things out properly. Every show is booked like WWE either they have a plan and don't adapt or they rush things.
Wheeler Yuta is a jobber and kicked out of 2 finishers back to back: AEW in a nutshell. What a joke of a match
Yeah. A jobber who just won the ROH Pure title.
@@greghughes6098 who has Yuta ever beat in AEW?
So, is Jim saying this match would have been good if it was Jay Lethal? Are they not supposed to elevate the younger talent? By the Jay is doing just fine.
No he's just saying the push would be better deserved by jay an actual accomplished wrestler instead of Yuta
@@Anicade Jay feels like a funny fit though. He's a veteran, not some young guy that needs to prove something. And right now he's already doing a ROH thing with Samoa Joe as a disgruntled, pissed off vet that's decided to cut loose.
Dunno about Yuta for sure.
Tony has basically booked yuta how you should be booked when you 1st show up on tv. Not someone who has been running around with the comdey act low card jobbers for his whole time in aew.
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@@Anicade doesn't make sense to mentor a contemporary
It was a good match, furthering the Yuta story. Jim is forgetting that it’s Danielson who likes Yuta. He probably sees some of himself in Yuta.
Jim isn't forgetting anything. Jim actually knows how to PROPERLY elevate a guy like this. And knows that the way AEW is doing it, is NOT the proper way to do it.
@@segagenesis7708 Wrong
I thought it was a great match. Lots of fun. The crowd loved it.
of course it was a great match, jim cornettes opinions on wrestling matches and wrestlers are absolute shit.
If entertaining the crowd isn't the goal, then what is? I think with all these "opinions" out there for people just trying to make money off of being a critic, people forget what the goal of a booker should be, to entertain an audience. I loved this match. Yuta is completely over and this has been well built for weeks. The AEW audience does not care if someone is smaller and skinnier. We are happy to suspend our disbelief for a character we can get behind. Much better than rooting for stiffs like Omos or Singh. The bookers aren't there to entertain Jim Cornette. He can call it dumb all he wants but Jim criticizing a match that had the crowd going crazy is much dumber. He doesn't get to choose what entertains the AEW crowd, they get to choose that for themselves whether he likes it or not.
@@davidwichman7364 It's almost like he's entitled to his opinion while giving valid points to his reasons such as where was the build up? He's been showcased with the best friends. Now he's just being slingshotted to the top. Natural progression my friend. And there are fans who saw this and went what the fuck? Kicking out of 20 finishes and bleeding shouldn't equate to a classic 5 star match and instant superstar status, David. Be realistic with yourself you know that's stupid. Suspend the disbelief all ya want, but there's always a line somewhere.
@@NYC_Goody its almost like AEW fans are entitled to their own opinion also and that Tony Kahn is catering to them and not to some guy who is no longer in the business and no longer booking shows. Like fans didn't have to suspend their belief for Cornette's product back in the day? He also throws insults at AEW fans all the time for being entertained by these storiesnabd matches so isn't this a pot kettle accusation that you are making to mention being entitled to an opinion? The goal of the booker should be to entertain the fans, not some old guy who wishes the product was how he booked it back in the day. Whether he likes it or not, times change. Cornette is aware of that and at the end of the day what he cares about is capitalizing off of it in some way. He is very effective at doing that by catering to an audience who loves hearing negativity.
@@davidwichman7364 you guys really love leaning on the times have changed remark and that he's out of touch. It's your favorite go to as to discount what he has to say (isn't effective by the way) because logically, not everything changes for the better. At the end of the day, telling a story that flows well in the ring with great selling and logical moves being done will always make the best match. Treating it like a videogame no selling, kicking out of 20 finishers and doing nothing but gymnastic spots is NOT changing with the times and it's not good wrestling. Because there's still people out there putting on professional wrestling matches, even in AEW. So that change with the times argument has no legs to stand on. And those points I've listed are the same points 20 year vets like Orton has mentioned, people involved with the industry has said and former industry people like Cornette has stated. Let's use your argument against you because you're right. At the end of the day the bookers goal is to entertain, well actually its TO MAKE MONEY. So you're partially right. Khan needs to get a wider audience. The thing is, the audience aren't always morons and they've been entertained by great matches aew has had over the years! Which literally tells you that they're perfectly satisfied with great wrestling matches! They don't need the gymnastic high spot every move indie match when they've proven they can get guys over wrestling. It makes no sense.
Jon Moxley struggling to beat a rookie in Wheeler Yuta is awful booking
Been waiting to hear Jim's take, but after hearing him speak it made be angry...
It's sad if you get angry listening to another persons opinion
He’s a typical AEW fan. They come here simply to get pissed
Awww diddums