Engine TUNING | QnA Session (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- #retrofit #stagetuning #cartuning
Timestamps
0:00 - Aggressive vs Non-Aggressive Tuning
3:43 - How it works
5:30 - Airbags Malfunction
6:10 - 4 points in Engine remapping
7:11 - Are NA Engines worth getting tuned
8:50 - Ciaz or City for tuning
11:30 - 1.0 TSI or 1.5 TSI for Tuning
17:30 - Reliability issues
23:21 - Air Filter DIY
28:34 - 6 Speed VW AT torque limit
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Stage tuning, also known as performance tuning or engine remapping, can be beneficial for turbocharged petrol cars. Turbocharged engines rely on forced induction to increase power and performance by compressing the intake air, allowing for more fuel to be burned and generating more power.
Stage tuning involves modifying the engine's electronic control unit (ECU) to optimize performance parameters such as fuel delivery, ignition timing, and boost pressure. By customizing these settings, stage tuning can unlock additional power and torque from the engine.
Here are some potential benefits of stage tuning for turbo petrol cars:
Increased Power: By adjusting the fuel delivery and ignition timing, stage tuning can provide a significant increase in power output. This can result in improved acceleration and higher top speeds.
Enhanced Torque: Modifying the boost pressure and other parameters can boost torque, providing better low-end and mid-range performance. This can make the car more responsive and enjoyable to drive.
Improved Throttle Response: Stage tuning can optimize the throttle response, reducing any lag between pressing the accelerator pedal and the engine's actual response. This can result in a more immediate and linear power delivery.
Better Fuel Efficiency: Contrary to popular belief, stage tuning done correctly can actually improve fuel efficiency by optimizing the engine's combustion process. However, this may not always be the case if the additional power is used more aggressively.
Customization Options: Stage tuning allows for customization to suit individual preferences and driving styles. Some tuners may prioritize power gains, while others may focus on a balanced approach that emphasizes both performance and reliability.
However, it's important to note that stage tuning can have potential downsides:
Warranty Voiding: Modifying the ECU or any other engine components may void the manufacturer's warranty. It's crucial to consider this aspect before opting for stage tuning.
Increased Stress on Components: Higher power and torque outputs can put additional stress on various engine components, such as the turbocharger, pistons, and transmission. This may lead to accelerated wear and potential reliability issues if the modifications are too extreme.
Potential Legal Issues: In some regions, certain modifications may not comply with local emissions or noise regulations. It's essential to be aware of and adhere to the legal requirements of your area.
Reliability Concerns: Poorly executed stage tuning or extreme modifications can compromise the reliability and longevity of the engine. It's crucial to consult with reputable tuners and ensure the modifications are done within safe limits.
Before considering stage tuning, it's advisable to thoroughly research reputable tuning companies, consults with experienced professionals, and weigh the potential benefits against the associated risks. Additionally, it's important to consider the intended usage of the vehicle and ensure the modifications align with your specific needs and preferences.
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Very informative video Paaji. Mere question pe toh bohot extensively kiya dono ne, thanks to both of them. And they both are right, 1.5 TSIs in VAG 2.0 cars have not been tuned till date. One thing I would like to add is most of the people judge tunes based on the peak power figures which is absolutely not the way to go. You should have a look at the dynocharts to understand the difference between them. A remap having higher peak power figures might be actually making lesser power on certain RPMs or might be delivering an inferior power delivery. Hence one should always opt for reputed tuners and always choose your tunes based on your use case and by comparing them on the basis of their dynocharts and not CLAIMED peak power figures.
Jethalal ji aapke sawaal se bohot information Mila janta ko🙂🙂👌🏻👌🏻
Kahi Mehta saab ki help toh nahi li iss sawaal ke liye 😅😂
Sirji please make another session on other than Engine tuning, ECU and Gearbox as most of us not willing to tamper with these core components of our beloved VWs. The session should be about other mods such as Upgradation of Instrument cluster, Infotainment systems, Auto seats, Upgrade headlights and alloys etc. and about reliable vendors, prices and improvement achieved.
Thoroughly enjoyed this series. Thanks.
Amazing content. Since you guys have abundance of knowledge, it would be lovely if you could share the best rules to maintain your 1.0 /1.5 tsi engine cars so it's runs long and smooth for long time.
Egr , intercooler, intake manifold, all cleaned already, pcv valve ok.
I feel better to have only one guest. On a lighter note, now it seems both of them will fight for space.
Valid point
He is over confident
Zabardast! Sunderdeepji aapne questions me kuch ni chhora aur inn dono ne answers me kuch ni chhora! Highly intellectual talks!!
Tysm Bhai, share the video
Thank you. This series was great!
We always get such phenomenal knowledge about cars and tuning. And Munishji and you all are so honest about your reviews , you all really respect customer viewpoints . Thank you so much
What a class video. Learnt so much ❤
Need more videos like these especially how to maintain cars
From my sleep I just got a thought on this video of tuning and I specifically point to removal of the catalytic converter during the tuning process....
Hope one of the 3 could answer this or someone who knows can..
1. If you remove the catalytic converter which is meant to control exhaust gases, how are you compensating for the pollution???
2. With that catalytic converter removal, the public is now aware that removal of catalytic converter helps in giving a slight increase if not more power/torque and if ppl start removing their catalytic converters, there is no way for a normal person to tell but wouldn't it cause a lot of pollution?? What measures as tuners do you or can you take to prevent this from happening (pollution specifically)
Maybe I have missed or forgotten if at all it was explained in this series but if not then it's worth checking...
I am only asking this because with BS6 phase 1 and now recently 2 the exhaust is strictly manufactured which is resulting in lesser output hence my questions
Great discussion from your team.
Wow yrr .. mja aaya
Shira content bhai ji.. and Thanks for answering my query.. ❤
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There's a feature unlock option called TWEAKED ABS.. which improves brake disc wiping.. just wanted to understand how it's different n beneficial from stock set up n why Skoda/VW doesn't unlock them by default while selling these cars
Bhai.. Please ask them to talk about the torque convertor 1.0 shifting response changes after stage 1 tuning.. The RPM needle movement speed when it shifts up in full throttle after stage 1 tuning seems to be slower than stock setting.. However overall rush when u throttle after the tuning is definitely better than Stock .. but wanted to understand the RPM needle movement speed difference logic before n after tuning.. hope this topic will be covered..
It’s bcoz when u tune your car you have to tune the tcu too. But since torque converter is not tuneable that’s why it does not match the performance of tuned ecu bcoz ecu is tuned and tcu is running stock that’s why tcu gets confused during shifts bcoz tcu giving orders to shift in stock condition but ecu requires shifts in tuned format
if you make enough excess torque, low end torque no longer matters as much. since the peak torque is moved up, low end torque should be similar.
Amazing content Paaji... 🙌
Tysm 🙏
1. Please talk about the torque convertor 1.0 shifting response changes after stage 1 tuning.. The RPM needle movement speed when it shifts up in full throttle after stage 1 tuning seems to be slower than stock setting.. However overall rush when u throttle after the tuning is definitely better than Stock .. but wanted to understand the RPM needle movement speed difference logic before n after tuning.. hope this topic will be covered..
2. There's a feature unlock option called TWEAKED ABS.. which improves brake disc wiping.. just wanted to understand how it's different n beneficial from stock set up n why Skoda/VW doesn't unlock them by default while selling these cars
Awesome
sir mere pass mazda cx 5 N engine hain kya tune krana thk rahe ga?
suggest me a better air filter for Polo 1 lt tsi than stock and at what intervel it should be changed .
Grate discuss i have 1.5 vento tdi dsg plz guide me I have tuning box dieseltronic is safe or remap wich is best.....
Stage 1 1.5 tsi ka potential hai 180 bhp aur 340 nm torque for mannual
Sunderdeep ji
There’s another concept of unlocking in market.
Where few features like
1. Alarm at 80 and 120 will be taken out
2. Remote engine start
3. Remote window down
4. Horn will locking unlocking car
These features will be activated
What’s your view on the same ???
Will it affect warranty ???
ECU will not be touched …
He does offer that services. I personally like to keep things stock.
Sir, I have 4th gen honda city 1.5 ivtec, my doubt is clear about tune, should I go for bmc or k&n air filter, for better performance? In stock form low & torque is too good.
Sunderji , my bs6 diesel ford is making problems due to dpf issues and consequential mixing of diesel with engine oil. Can i rectify the problems by DOWN PIPE ?
i20 n line ko max kitna kar sakte it has turbo engine.
muje 1.5 polo TDI ki timing belt kitne kilomiter par change karni ha
Should we stick to stock air filters for virtus? Pls reply
Make review vedio on 2020 Skoda Octavia 2.0 tdi l&k please
Sir if I tune 1ltr tsi mannual to 2nd or 3rd stage do i need to change my clutch set as well ?
One question if u could convey..... If we tune any engine so the piston rings bhi change karni padegi ek premature schedule bana ke, just like he told about air filter kyuki after market air filter will increase air flow but with increased minute dust particles so it will directly affect cylinder sleaves toh do we also need change all the rings (top, compression and oil) just for reliability purpose curious question
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One question if you can answer here or later
Without going for any stage upgrade or tuning - is it advisable to change the air filter to after market (not the high flow / free flow filters) instead of oem ?
What other things one would keep in mind if they go for aftermarket air filter
you can change air filter if you want... basically it helps engine to breathe with more air... if you have turbo charged engine you can improve low end torque or it may reduce some amount of turbo lag with high flow filters.
High flow filters need to be cleaned sooner than OEM filters.
Sunder ji i am really confused after arrival of Elevate. Which to buy kushaq 1.5 or ivetec ? Elevate looks promising and kushaq ditches size. I am from HP. Heart is with Kushaq and mind is preferring Elevate no doubt it is a good family car.
Elevate is fine. Do check my analysis video on it.
My next gen verna 1.6 d 2017 giving blowby from dipstick , both smoke and oil droplets. Pick up is satisfactory as well as mileage. Should i go for overhaul? If no, how many kms we can drive like this .. already done 160000 kms.
Go to some experienced mechanic and get your intercooler and EGR checked. Sometimes it is due to choked intercooler and EGR.
The right guy seems more theoretical and teh left guy seems more practical knowledge based👌
How is it possible to tune 1.5TSI DSG as it has 250Nm torque and DQ200 can handle upto 250Nm ?
Iske liye tcu tune hota hai fir
stage 1 tuning for Polo 1 lt tsi . code 6 or E tuner ? can this be done online ?
Both of them are good. And remapping needs to be done at your local Tuner, you cannot just do it online by yourself
Do we face any problem with 1.0 TSI polo if we fit a steering with paddle shifters.
No, it's a retrofit part by oem.. You will not face any issue
@@iamjkjay Thank you bro.
Aaj hi service centre main fabia mili ek jo 2.22 lakh km chli hai.gaddi lahul spiti ki hai
Hi, I have a Škoda Octavia 2.0 diesel dsg, has done 1.25 lakhs kms but in excellent condition . I am confused whether I should get a non aggressive stage 1 remap done or keep it stock . Also please can you give information about the 2.0 litre diesel engine as well .. I only hear Manish Ji speaking about the other engines but not the 2 litre Tdi in the Octavia or jetta or Passat , etc .
2.0TDI is most potent , and incredible options for hardware upgrades. There is nothing like aggressive vs non aggressive , everything is customised for the user's need. Say if 2.0TDI is peak torque of 400NM and still drives a like a normal machine with minimal throrttle then still we dont call it aggressive or non aggressive.
am using a stage 2 laura tdi 2.0, 192Hp/410Nm torque. If it is a dsg, you will require a stage 4 tcu + upgraded clutch for DQ200. if your model is a DQ250 it requires a stage 1 tcu for it.
This question is for RAM.. I have Skoda laura 2.0 TDI it came with 110BHP tune... Can i flash Jetta 140bhp tune's software in my car?.... Every internal including turbo and injectors are same in both... My engine code is CLCA and jetta's engine code is CLCB... PLEASE CONSIDER THIS QUESTION
afaik manual is weaker internals, also lower sized turbo as well. max you can get with manual is 160hp, max with the dsg version is 267hp.
@@x18shadow3 Bro ill give you the part number of turbo.. Please cross check and comment back.... What do you mean by weaker internals 😂😂.... Same pistons, same block and same injectors in all 2.0 TDIs including audi a4 and some audi models equipped with 2.0 TDI... Research bro🙄
If you are sure it has the same turbo then probably yes
Yes it has
@@dieselhead5891 mine is anecdotal evidence here. Was given two choices of turbos when replacing by dealer, you can guess based on power of the engine outputs which is for which.
am running a laura 2.0 tdi with 192hp and 410 Nm with a dq200 running a stage 4 tcu and kevlar clutch pak from rtmg, will be upgrading to a hybrid CR170 Turbo + dq250 swap and going for a stage 3 Ecu if the turbo breaks again. if it is the same internals, check which turbo it has, if its CR140 you can tune it for similar outputs. general range is 170-190 stage 1
Jo available hai
1.5 tsi ka map vo karoq aur troc le liye available hai bs
Unhone kaha yeh
Sunder jee do u really think 1.5
Engine in slavia etc etc needs any kinda tuning???
Not at all. I personally would keep my cars stock. Brands spend millions on the research to come up with a product & we should trust them more than tuners. I would do that only if I am super rich & ready to risk 20 lacs.
Thank u sunder jee I got my answer.. I will took this video as of my knowledge purpus that all 🙏🏻
I think jarurat hai tune ki according to me.1.5 main initial main jo lag hai vo tuning se km ho jayega.aur car effortlessly pull kregi without downshifting.torque jitna jada ho utna hi acha hai .mannual virtus slavia kushaq taigun 1.5 can handle torque upto 340 nm.
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Ecu locked ke uppar kya bol rahe the woh
1.5 TSI ka ECU locked hai so u cant flash it and change codes on it (it may be available in future).
Isn't ECU tunning illegal as it violates pollution norms?
NOOP it depends on catylitic converter... agar downpipe or whole exhaust system change kiya tho pollution zada hoga
I think either ways you would have to get your car pollution passed.
what kinda question is that ? Everything is illegal here. Downpipe with Decat is more pollutants and smoke, Downpipe with an Upgraded Cat is about the same ±3-5% give or take.
You guys hardly talk about 1.5 tdi's,humlog kya karen fir tune na karwaye??
OLX pe bech de 😂
With all due respect to munish ji I would love him to interupt ram bhai less. Almost all of time he is not able to complete his statements and is diverted half way into some completely different topic and we miss some really good insights. There is no need to show off who knows more. Lets have a great discussion instead. Thanks
Jarrot se jiada nahi bolna chaheye
Around 8 mins.... Aapne bola ki naturally aspirated engines tune karne mein zyaada faayda nahi hain jo maine bhi dekha hain gains kum hain..
Lekin usko kya koi aur solution hain???
Maybe a stupid question but Turbocharger fit karana possible bhi hain??
Ya woh khatra hain
Yes possible hai par bahot jada money and time lagta hai sab kuch fabricate karna padta hai aur sab kuch change karna padta hai jese ki perfect size turbocharger , intercooler , injectors , fule pump , blow of value , custom piping , boost controller , spark plug gap , oil catch can , down pipe , ecu tune ignition timing , afr gague, boost gauge , oil temperature gague,forged pistons , forged con rods , etc
@@digvijayjagtap3776 oh toh phir isiliye koi nahi karate hain shayy
@@vijuvlogs yes par koi koi log karte hai majorly south people's
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@@vijuvlogs ye civic dekho NA se turbocharged ki hai
Manish ji ram ji ko bhi bolne ka mauka dedo
Please keep interruption less when the new guys is explaining
Maruti Hyundai wale be like "Ameer logo ki baatein"😂
Sunderdeep ji ko aaj tak फॉक्सवैगन बोलना नहीं आया, ये बड़ी शर्म की बात है कि कंपनी का नाम तक सही से नहीं बोल पाते
Tarun ji, duniya ka number RUclipsr CarWow Mat Watson bhi Volkswagen hi bolta hai. Itna hoshiyaar matt baniye, duniya humne bhi dekhi hai.
@@SunderdeepSinghbahut badhiya 👌
Munish ji apne pet ko bhi Thora tune Karo , failta hi jaa raha hai 😮
He has a medical condition. Please let’s be respectful.
U never talked 1.8 and 2.0 engine. Ye yo bacche hain. Don't be fooled, Piston, crankahaft, piston rod can't handle power over 130-140 bhp in 1.0, these engine parts are totally made in india for india.
If you want real FUN go for old 1.8 or 2.0 tsi they were all imported engines.
EV lelo, matti dalo
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