We all have made not so good ADM decisions. Crosswind takeoffs and landings are a learned skill. As a Student pilot, I always look at wind direction for takeoffs and landings even if I don't like the perfect runway for it. As you've taught me.
Crab on final then slip coming over the fence. I don't think of it as a slip, though it is. Hold the centre line (ailerons), stay aligned with the runway (rudder). My plane's demonstrated crosswind is 13 knots. I've landed in a 12 knot crosswind and was starting to run low on rudder authority.
Crab to slip at 200-100 agl. Using normal flaps until final and then i cut the flaps to land with less flaps or zero. Have landed C172 up to 25 knots direct. No damages.
Taking out flaps while coming in on final? I’m a relatively low hour pilot so I could be missing something but that seems incredibly dangerous and unnecessary. Why not simply shoot the entire approach with partial or no flaps?
I just had my first solo with a 6knot xwind and still had great landings! Thanks man :) my CFI recommended your ground school and I’m definitely interested!
Love the tips and tricks on your channel. Trying to get to my landings smooth enough so my CFI will pass me off for solo/checkride. Of course we’ve had nothing but crosswinds the last 2 weeks and the one day the wind cooperates the clouds rolled in 100’ above pattern altitude
Though you’re talking crosswinds, while you mentioned not much of a Base, made me think headwind / tailwind, there’s discussion to be had regarding the difference between visually apparent glide path and actual glide path flown… Or you could think glide path through air mass versus glide path over the ground. As an example, Naval Aviators flying to the boat typically fly a 3 degree glideslope like everyone else but the systems display a 4 degree glideslope as either the ship is driving away from them (“making its own wind”), or there’s actual headwind pushing you back thus flattening your glideslope flown relative to the boat.
Effects to “the neutral power point” come into play here too and discussion to these. For the field, when to turn Base if you want consistent groove lengths in final also come to play.
Great explanation as always Jason. Thank you so much for the video. It should be awesome if you could mount a camera where we can see the rudder pedals also.
I did both but I think there is a third way? on downwind, Base and final all three pick a point on the ground and fly to it....what about multi engine? Can the pilot make uneven adjustments on the engine power and/or the prop governor...they will be very small tho?
I actually prefer a crosswind landing. It's hard to explain, but I have to engage my rudder, my ailerons, my throttle, etc. I feel more in control of the aircraft. This machine is 100% dependant on me.
Could add more to the discussion regarding flaps. More to push is less a concern to me. Vector math be it less heading vs track angle in the crab or less AOB in the side slip matter more to me. With this, I’d like to ding Cirrus as they seem to wrongly encourage Full Flaps no matter what. What is also nice with less flaps is you’re closer to your Go Around configuration.
We had an instance a few weeks ago where a runway was closed at our airport because of an incident/accident (not sure which) and so the other runway had a direct, about 25 knot gusting crosswind in a 172. Someone put in full flaps, and ended up overspeeding the flaps quite badly, and they needed to be replaced, so flap usage discussions on crosswinds are definitely needed.
Student pilot here with only 16 flights in. Appreciate the video but have no idea what to do getting into and out of a crab or side slip while landing. In this example, turn low wing into the wind coming from the left (assuming right rudder here?) and then use rudder to straighten out just before rounding out? If you're getting away from centerline, which controls bring us back while crabbing or while side slipping? As a newbie, I'm concerned with accidentally putting in the opposite correction in and making things unsafe
I'm 5 landings into my training, I like to crab until 1/2-1/4 mile out and transition to the slip. I'm too fresh to be able to mash the rudder right above the pavement and get the cross control brain wires online 😅
I wonder.. why did the tower cleared you guys to land on a runway with crosswinds instead of a runway that would be more suited for the type of situation you were in. Like you said, runway 26 was a better option, why did the tower not told you to land on 26 in the first place? Cheers Mark
One more comment...I am a safety professional...I read A LOT of accident reports. There is always a chain of events that leads to the accident. If the pilot had done XYZ then the accident wouldn't have happened...it's the Swiss Cheese Model. As pilots, we have to be cognizant of the potential for accidents. We have to understand that we are the number 1 cause of accidents. If the winds are beyond our personal minimums, then maybe we need to find another place to land.
The story about flying the Cirrus during crosswind was well worth the addition to this video
Combination crab/slipper here, great video Jason! Great job explaining the corrections needed during the pattern due to the gusty conditions.
I really enjoy xwind TO and landings - always looking for ways to improve!
They are fun to do if you are coordinated and quick to. Great pilot test.
We all have made not so good ADM decisions. Crosswind takeoffs and landings are a learned skill. As a Student pilot, I always look at wind direction for takeoffs and landings even if I don't like the perfect runway for it. As you've taught me.
Always enjoy your videos
Love it thanks.
Crab on final then slip coming over the fence. I don't think of it as a slip, though it is. Hold the centre line (ailerons), stay aligned with the runway (rudder).
My plane's demonstrated crosswind is 13 knots. I've landed in a 12 knot crosswind and was starting to run low on rudder authority.
I really appreciate the side stories!
Without a doubt, a very instructive video.
Crab until short final then slip. Thats what works for me. I fly out of KCFO, Colorado so lots of cross wind landings. Great videl!
I can certainly use all the help I can get!
excellent instruction, Thank you Jason!
Excellent video!
Crab to slip at 200-100 agl. Using normal flaps until final and then i cut the flaps to land with less flaps or zero. Have landed C172 up to 25 knots direct. No damages.
Taking out flaps while coming in on final? I’m a relatively low hour pilot so I could be missing something but that seems incredibly dangerous and unnecessary. Why not simply shoot the entire approach with partial or no flaps?
I like crosswind landings! They're not a gimme.
I just had my first solo with a 6knot xwind and still had great landings! Thanks man :) my CFI recommended your ground school and I’m definitely interested!
Love the tips and tricks on your channel. Trying to get to my landings smooth enough so my CFI will pass me off for solo/checkride. Of course we’ve had nothing but crosswinds the last 2 weeks and the one day the wind cooperates the clouds rolled in 100’ above pattern altitude
I going to my class today and we have a crosswind at Canandaigua airport gracias por tu ayuda
Thank you your class really really helpme
Though you’re talking crosswinds, while you mentioned not much of a Base, made me think headwind / tailwind, there’s discussion to be had regarding the difference between visually apparent glide path and actual glide path flown… Or you could think glide path through air mass versus glide path over the ground. As an example, Naval Aviators flying to the boat typically fly a 3 degree glideslope like everyone else but the systems display a 4 degree glideslope as either the ship is driving away from them (“making its own wind”), or there’s actual headwind pushing you back thus flattening your glideslope flown relative to the boat.
Effects to “the neutral power point” come into play here too and discussion to these. For the field, when to turn Base if you want consistent groove lengths in final also come to play.
Great explanation for crosswind take-off and landing.
We have a lot of wind in Idaho. You better be good at cross wind landings
I prefer to side slip. In the Cirrus, Nose with the toes, ailerons to line up with centerline.
Crosswind landings have always been something I wanted to master completely.
Great explanation as always Jason. Thank you so much for the video. It should be awesome if you could mount a camera where we can see the rudder pedals also.
On Final with an X-Wind, I crab and then transition to a slip. "Straighten up and fly right" as my Instructor used to say!
I know it cannot be avoided at times, however, being as I don't need to be anywhere, I won't fly on days like that. Excellent video though!
I did both but I think there is a third way? on downwind, Base and final all three pick a point on the ground and fly to it....what about multi engine? Can the pilot make uneven adjustments on the engine power and/or the prop governor...they will be very small tho?
I actually prefer a crosswind landing. It's hard to explain, but I have to engage my rudder, my ailerons, my throttle, etc. I feel more in control of the aircraft. This machine is 100% dependant on me.
Could add more to the discussion regarding flaps. More to push is less a concern to me. Vector math be it less heading vs track angle in the crab or less AOB in the side slip matter more to me. With this, I’d like to ding Cirrus as they seem to wrongly encourage Full Flaps no matter what. What is also nice with less flaps is you’re closer to your Go Around configuration.
We had an instance a few weeks ago where a runway was closed at our airport because of an incident/accident (not sure which) and so the other runway had a direct, about 25 knot gusting crosswind in a 172. Someone put in full flaps, and ended up overspeeding the flaps quite badly, and they needed to be replaced, so flap usage discussions on crosswinds are definitely needed.
Yep 👍🏻
Student pilot here with only 16 flights in. Appreciate the video but have no idea what to do getting into and out of a crab or side slip while landing. In this example, turn low wing into the wind coming from the left (assuming right rudder here?) and then use rudder to straighten out just before rounding out? If you're getting away from centerline, which controls bring us back while crabbing or while side slipping? As a newbie, I'm concerned with accidentally putting in the opposite correction in and making things unsafe
Side slipper here 👋
I'm 5 landings into my training, I like to crab until 1/2-1/4 mile out and transition to the slip. I'm too fresh to be able to mash the rudder right above the pavement and get the cross control brain wires online 😅
I'M IN NEED OF HELP. I'm a Student pilot and I always tend to drift alittle and land with a side load... definitely need help with coordination
Crosswind landings are tough, even when you have experience
I wonder.. why did the tower cleared you guys to land on a runway with crosswinds instead of a runway that would be more suited for the type of situation you were in. Like you said, runway 26 was a better option, why did the tower not told you to land on 26 in the first place?
Cheers Mark
Pilot has the final say on this...
Okay, now try this on a short field (2000 ft) runway... you need those flaps and better speed control.
i do lol 😁
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Sounds like me.
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One more comment...I am a safety professional...I read A LOT of accident reports. There is always a chain of events that leads to the accident. If the pilot had done XYZ then the accident wouldn't have happened...it's the Swiss Cheese Model. As pilots, we have to be cognizant of the potential for accidents. We have to understand that we are the number 1 cause of accidents. If the winds are beyond our personal minimums, then maybe we need to find another place to land.