I don't think I'm an empath but a lot of this describes me. I'm currently devaluing my ex narc as he tries to hoover me. Just 2 weeks ago I told him how much I loved him. 2 days ago, I told him I saw no difference between him and my butcher. I meant it too. I'd like to think my aim was not to wound him but it was just the truth... I've never considered myself an empath because although I'm good at reading people's emotions and love children and animals and hate to see suffering of any kind, I'm not an emotional person. Curiouser and curiouser.
The super empath's supernova is strategic: thoughtful and deliberate with the conscious application of "manipulative" behaviors to win the battle that leads to freedom.
I agree, but HG has stated, if I remember correctly, that they stay & ocationally leave. I'm not the NPD expert here, but I'm the empath, I think is more like you refer. Usually we love & give untill someone show blatant disrespect one or several times, then we cant not love them, no matter how hard we try, bc our narcissistic tendencies dominate over the empathic ones. We can never feel the same way towards that person, being it work or personal & we start planning our escape. We leave, but before, we make sure to let them know we r not The Doormat. SE are kinda like a cat.
perfect!I knew you wouldn't dissapoint me.I would like to say that one of the reasons that a super empath who doesn't know what narcissism is,goes to suprnova mode is his strong intuition.Super empaths don't just understand that something goes wrong.They are very good lie detectors and many times they can understand human reactions in a way that only a super empath can do.They understand that they are gaslighted,they understand that they are played,they understand the triangulation and many other things but because they have no idea what narcissism is,they can not explain what is going on and why all this is happening.Because th super empath is an individual who see life through a more realistic point of view they can accept the situations as they are and balance their emotions so they go on supernova mode. When the super empath learns about narcissism and educate himself,his knowlege in compination with his intution means that the narcissist is an open book for the empath and the empath can be more playfull and manipulative.One more thing that is changing is the fact that the empath have no feelings anymore for the narc because now he see the true face.He loved once the soulmate he thought he found.He can not love an empty shell,a souless creature who wants destruction.
This is mind blowing. I litterally felt like I was possessed. I was embarrassed and shocked by my own behavior. This makes complete sense. Thank you again.
Same, I started to think I was a narcissist, I don't know where it came from, I knew I was stretched to a limit and it was getting worse and worse; this is almost how all my relationships have been though, in hindsight, I just never saw the pattern because I was looking at it all wrong.
Nothing to be ashamed of standing up for yourself putting somebody in their place leveling the playing field forcing them to get a double dose of their own medicine that makes them stick you just did what they do to everyone else good job we can come out of these relationships with dignity self-respect and a whole lot of satisfaction and respect
Yes! Me too! I became so mean, so ugly, so vicious. I disliked myself! I was so cold, I had to put on a sweater in order not to freeze. Before it ended I went crazy. I kept screaming, "I told you, not to fuck with me! I told you, you didn't want to see this side of me!" What's ironic is I knew I had another side, but I'm not sure how I knew. It's over now....yes...it's over...at least for me. Every once in a while he crawls out from under his rock, and rallies his flying monkeys. You know what's stranger? I can't hate him. I see him as damaged goods.
When the narcissist said “You’ll never win against me” I took it upon myself to slowly lure him into shooting himself in the foot (so to speak) I wonder if his still thinks his statement is true as he sits in his jail cell. Checkmate
😂😂😂😂😂💪👏👏👏👏 well done ! Narcs don’t have strategic foresight or any meaningful thought process, just evil in the moment thoughts/gratification like a junkie to get their next high n then look again
Honestly i do wonder which is more evil the empath or the Narcissist. We can read them, know what they are thinking, put traps under their noses and hide it with their ego. And when they spring the trap we are far away.
You're 'in it'... You let your Narcissism rise, play with the narc like a cat plays with a half dead mouse... And when you are done, you push the Narcissism down. Highly pleasurable. Zero regrets.
By every criteria from every video of his on this, I am a super empath who was tangled up with a mid, maybe upper mid range covert narcissist for 8 years. Coming down off a super nova event makes me feel sick and sometimes guilty as my empathic traits come back to the front. I definitely don't miss it. I do nonetheless in retrospect cherish the pain I caused that disgusting beast.
I feel like I'm sitting at the balcony of an opera with vintage longview, enjoying the show with a Mona Lisa smile 😘. Kindness, always my dear. Now, go to your room. You get out when I say.😘😘 😆
My narc ex actually called me the narcissist. I see now that it was because I fought back, and fought hard from early on. I knew his behaviour and treatment of me was f****d up and wrong. I would dump him, he would Hoover, I'd take him back , and the battle would ensue. BUT my emotional thinking did keep me in this battle for 3 bloody years. It's been 6 months now since over seen him. When I got rid of him for the last time, there was no fight; I said simply, 'I dont want this anymore'. Havent spoken ti him since. I finally accepted that he can never change. Plus, he was causing so much anxiety in me that, by the end, even his voice would cause irritation and anxiety. I knew I had to save myself.
@most the games the voice even gave anxiety as well. I stumbled across a voice recording of one on our arguments (which I would did because he had select amnesia) and I became paralyzed in my mind momentarily and started feeling triggered with anxiety.
There are people in this world who are like walking mirrors. They reflect everything back to you. They will reflect back to you who you are. It's a very powerful superpower and it's next level. Their light is simply too bright for any of "our kind" or "your kind"
When the unrelenting domestic abuse led to me filing for sole conservatorship of our child, I was afraid I had become him. I was so singularly focused on exposing his abuse. I was an unrelenting freight train going through the judicial system. With no money, I represented myself. I battled my abusive ex who is a member of the Washington DC bar, as well as his overpaid aggressive attorney. They lost the counter-suit, continuances, legal fees in another court, and ultimately custody. Examples of how psycho I became, the abusive ex had to file more than one restraining order. I wasn't hurting him physically, I was creating my own fundraising website page featuring evidence of his abuse through photos, text, emails, and a 911 audio. I was also emailing and faxing his employer and the DC bar of his continuing abusive behavior. Even at the final hearing October 7, 2020, I have a permanent injunction against me to not post one specific item. I agreed, along with receiving sole conservatorship and control of the college fund. He was also passed over for partnership after 10 years of working with the firm. Watching my abusive ex pay his high-priced attorney to make me stop was PRICELESS! Now that I have won sole conservatorship, I have cooled my jets and am at peace. Most importantly, my child feels protected and at peace. She knows she will never be court ordered to spend time with him. She watched her mother become her fiercest advocate in the corrupt judicial system, and win! Thank you for explaining that temporary ruthless mode. I did not want to stay in it. Now I'm back to gardening and baking.
Dear AMC.....that literally was the BEST thing that I have ever read from ANY comments on ANY video ever watched in the last two years learning about narcissist personality disorder! I have endured 40 years and almost all my inheritance! I am an INFJ - T, HSP, and and empath who has gone super nova! I am literally psychologically abusing him, won in a restraining order from my emails and I am NOT done yet!! Again, you are one incredibly stodgy woman! Congratulations!! Stay blessed! 🌺💪🙏
Good for you. Being Fearless. I was terrified when I filed for divorce. He became more covert and Overtly abusive. He groomed and paid our children to abuse my life with him. Now they are 36 and 39...they abuse me the way their Dad did....I remarried to a very good honest man....they abuse him, and try to get between us. They have done horrifying abuse. Now I know that contact with my adult children enables the Ex Covert Narc to know my business and coach my children to harm my life. I BLOCKED ALL OF THEM. I feel sick to think about contact with any of them. 42 years if their abuse is too much.
@@kimkeck6266 INFJ_A here . My explosive moments , have been against an abusive landlord . Won the case and helped 300+ others to collect as a result & this was the start of the benefits for 2,500 other tenants of the same landlord , and destroying their narc web in the community as far as it's possible to do - the landlords staff have been told how I intended to get them , should any further problems arise for my associates or self .- so far , peace had reigned , though a new narc tenant is about to find out the hard way , it's not a good idea to abuse the people around them . 🫢🤔🙂👍
The last minute of this video got real dark. Sent chills up my spine. The sooner you guys understand this is spiritual warfare the easier the fight becomes. Glory to God who fights my battles. 🙏🏿🙌🏿
I’ve been waiting for this video. Before learning that I’m a super empath I was always confused why can’t I just shut up and take it. Now I understand who I am and it’s so liberating. Thank you
I TELL THEM RIGHT TO THERE FACE, " YOU WISH U WERE ME, WHATEVER. " & WALK AWAY. NOW I GAVE MY SICK MOTHER & COUSIN'S NO CONTACT....WORKS WONDERS, THEY ARE STILL HOOVERING & IM LOVING MY FREEDOM FROM A LIFETIME OF ABUSE. ~ CONGRATS NARCS SURVIVOR ✊🏼😁🎯
@@jogriffiths5766 My husband said if the men he worked with at the station heard the way I talked to him, they'd tell him to "get [his] woman under control!" That made me laugh at the time, but I am beginning to realize why he said it.
@@jogriffiths5766 mine said he couldn't "read me" like he could other people. Was he reading others,or just manipulating them in to following his script...
Supernova is when we revert to the behavior of the midrange covert narcissist....it is possible and justified, and taught WELL by our previous owner, but they are NOT worth the time or effort.
dunno i dont think it was at all covert when i went supernova i let the bitch know in no uncertain terms how unhappy i was with the manipulations i could see them by then though the blinkers were off
Way more akin to the Ultra than Midrange. Supernova means when something is dying. The energy produced is inexplicable, outrageous and methodical. Unfortunately the guilt that goes along with these types of behaviors does not disengage. After all these years, I still feel guilty the way I treated her at the end..
The narcissist is full of insecurities and an empath will pick up on all - including what they try to hide. How they portray themselves and what makes them annoyed. The loss of control is big. Their motivations and responses are clocked. Not sure if I agree an empath will become a narcissist tho - even for a short time. We are human - we do get angry and upset. Slamming the emotional door on someone is self-preservation. I am starting to realize I have danced with narcissists in the past and never got drawn in, I left before any real bond was forged. All I can say is beware of the covert narcissist. They use your empathy as a weapon against you. If anybody tells you - you are too independent - show them the door.
My grandmother was an ole school southern belle or a steel magnolia. She used to say," Give them some of their own damn polite." She was a wise and kind woman. If you deliberately disrespected her, she brought down the wrath from all sides. The narcissist ran away. The End. That's all fokes!
Incredibly helpful and explains perfectly what I went through with a greater narc. Therapist at the time thought I was 'acting out because of history with my mother.' ...Nope, wrong. I was being abused, and finally standing up to it and calling it out.
It is absolutely amazing. I was discarded by my parents last Xmas and did exactly what you told. I spent the whole year studying narcissism (2020) and only afterwards I come across the information. My father is an ULTRA, my mother COVERT. My sister Lesser. I was a codependent and became superempath and now I know that when I walked away to never come back that was the supernova moment. 😊🙌🙏what a wonderful gift for Xmas one year later.
Heal and bind up your wounds. Pour your gifts into those who appreciate and will increase goodness in the world. Don't stare into the abyss. Jesus' actions prove His love for you He will set you free indeed. You can get through this, it does get easier.
I had the empath detector, very interesting and personalised to me by the mighty HG himself. Once I had the results of the type of empathic schools I belonged to I then searched his videos for each of those and learned more about them. It really did ring true the result I received and it's good to know the outcome. He also tells you what type of narcs you're more likely to attract, I then searched his videos and learned more about them. Well worth while.
I have just started the journey. I am Significant Super + CoDependant, plus strong Standard. All learned after taking HGs empath test. Now, I am wondering how Empaths are created. So want to listen and learn and understand, from HGs hundreds and hundreds of videos explaining why 🥰🏴🇬🇧
My supernova event consisted of me calling up the movers when my N was out of state for three weeks and moving completely out of our house to go live 1,500 miles away, never to have contact with the N ever again. :::high five::: 😀 That was a glorious 15 "no contact" years ago. I'm back to living happily 😊 with my garden, being around good people and learning via continuing education about what happened to me so that it will never happen again. Thanks ever so much, H.G. Tudor (tutor?).
The interesting dynamic-- empaths are Truth Seekers. And it seems super ones ARE drawn towards wanting to see the darkness inside Your Kind. I can feel the addiction, it's visceral. I'm definitely going to study this more. This material is addicting ♥︎
When a narcissist doesn’t want you anymore it’s simply because they’ve lost control over you or found (in their mind) a better supply. What the narcissist fails to understand is that their control (in their mind) over you is given freely and no manipulation is/was required on their part. Honesty is not a quality that a narcissist possesses therefore the only honesty that is required from the empath is to oneself. Never waist my time playing fair with a narcissist, assume at all times that you’re dealing with an ultra narcissist.
@@n0426not end times at all. Feels like thet when the wave hits the climax both up and down. Life will balance again. For a while at least lol. Enjoy this crazy beautiful ride
Before I went no contact with my father, I used to use manipulation in response to his manipulation and abuse. I felt extraordinarily guilty about it for a long time, but hearing it broken down like this makes it very clear that my actions were simply retaliation equal to the abuse I received.
Embracing the dark side for a period. Still loving yet vengeful. Joy in your pain. So disturbing lol...You really tapped into this one. Sort of brought me peace.
I had no idea that it had a name, The Empathic Supernova, but my therapist said he had never heard of anyone doing what I did to get the narc to leave in duress. I knew something was wrong early in the manipulationship but at 8 months, I had enough of its crazy-making. I created an environment so hostile, it had to leave. I guess it’s safe to say that it won’t be back. 😁
I just happened to have, very recently, experienced a supernova event. Our neighbor has been drawing fuel from me for a little over a year. Trying to establish healthy boundaries has been draining and emotionally exhausting and, as you might guess, absolutely fruitless. I set up a restaurant meeting for lunch and she drove. During lunch I told her that her need for control was pervasive and that I couldn’t be friends unless she was able to respect others’ autonomy. Unsurprisingly, she left me stranded at the restaurant with the unpaid bill. I paid, got home and blocked all communication. I feel like a new person. Thanks, HG! I couldn’t have done it without you. ♥️
Damn, I just realised why my narc broke off the relationship the way he did both times. First time I called his lies out in front of other people and told him to 'just stop his BS'. It was done calmly, quietly and politely but I wasn't under control and hadn't been for a while. I publically challenged the mask and the next day it was over. Thinking back, the look on his face when I called him out was one of terror. The second time I wasn't under control anymore either. I was calm, cool and collected but told him enough was enough and called him out on his BS. Last time I saw him I was totally out of his control. I was polite, calm and just spoke my truth without emotion and didn't fall for any of his manipulations. Then I just walked out of his life with a cheery goodbye. Yayyy, go me! I hadn't realised that before. Thanks HG, I feel great now :)
We stand our ground with a high sense of justice. Before I knew anything about empaths and narcissists I had a boss who was treating me like shite. I was describing his behaviour to a friend who happened to be an HR professional, she told me his behaviour sounded like what is known as Constructive Dismissal, where they attempt to make your work life so miserable that you quit. I took a documented example of his behaviour to my own HR which then went up the chain of command. Long story short he was let go months later, not so much because of my actions but because of his own ineptitude and bad decisions. The point is that I naturally stood my ground and fought back. Most people in the corporate world do not do this, most people will actually quit or make a move to be transferred. I could have done either but I liked my job and there was no way I was going to let an a-hole like him take it away. Years later as I was researching narcissism I finally realised what he was.
What is amazing is when you decide youve had enough, and yougosupernova you force respect, even from non narcs,its just such a strengh we have thats so very sincere that we are standing fully in our truth. Not everyone can do this, so they are forced to recognize we have tremendous strength.
I never had any intention on one-upping the man I loved but he's an upper greater narcissist so I have to save myself . I don't want to hurt him back. I have to take care of myself now and stay vigilant
@@theanonymoushelpline7248 yes exactly i dont feel pride in going supernova i happened as a consequence of the outragous narc behaviour its a instinct to shut it down and get them gone
It is so interesting to hear this explained. I did this with a greater and a lesser but i didnt know about narcissism at the time. I was able to do this after i let go of them emotioanlly, and knew somehow turning things around would benefit my growth. To be able to face the narcissist without ghosting and without emotionally breaking down, feels like a kind of freedom and power. Like the kind of power a narc gets from fuel maybe. There is still pain involved, but you feel like you are facing your demons. It feels like you are dragged to this dark place, and you stay and face it, and face them. And then another narc is around the corner to see if you have learned anything....Thank you HG for explaining the patterns.My truth seeking has finally been satisfied and feels like a complete cycle.
I hate how much I love this video. But it is so damn validating. Thank you for making sense of every fight I let go unresolved! It was fun to just play with them at the end. Really helps the healing process. So does this video. My gratitude.
It was a long and bloody battle. I remember, like a switch flipped, when my narcissistic qualities came forefront; gloves off- and the war ensued. I am not proud of that. Glad to put a name to it though and that I'm not a narcissist, at least. 😕
This vid explained to me fully the sequence of events that have transpired that I couldn’t put my finger on. It explained a lot of events in my past as well. Thank you. I know they will come back eventually for a malign attempt. Many have tried. All have failed. When we are done, we are done. I look forward to the videos to come.
This is a perfect description and explanation of my last night spent with my narc woman. It began with her starting an argument while we were in bed and ended when she got up, dressed and said she was going home. I had had enough of her manipulations and abuse and told her several times if she left the relationship was over. She did leave and I immediately went No Contact . Only s few hours later the Grand Hoover began and lasted almost two weeks. I haven't seen her now for over a month ends calls and texts stopped about 10 days ago. I only wonder if she has given up entirely or will she try another Hoover in the future. Thank you so much for the advice and knowledge you have provided me. I am forever grateful.
I think this happened to me recently. This narcissist that I wasn’t sure at that time he was one. Pushed me too far and I broke and fought back. That was the end of the ‘relationship’. I called him out and held it in his face. He tried to use word salad. He deflected. I knew what I was seeing. He is a cerebral narcissist (a Doctor) thought he was the most brilliant in the world. Emotionally he was like a child and as deep as a puddle. The mask was off and he knew it. He extracted himself from the ‘relationship’. He had sustained too much narcissist injury so he bailed.
And our society puts these abusive people on pedestals. A friend was married to a narc (MD) who used to beat her up, cheated on her, manipulated her constantly . They dedicated a new wing of the hospital he worked @ to him.
So many of your examples describe how I deal with it! Flight or fight. I have even tried what you are saying, just enough is enough, type of thing, but a little (BIG) thing called love draws me back!
Shout out to INFPs, the rightfully self-righteous. I hope your Empathic Supernovas are effective and worthwhile. Over my lifetime, mine were used against me until they no longer could. In the end, the truth is shining bright.
INFJ - Turbulent here. But I did not supernova. Also, it was a long-distance relationship, so I did not see cheating per se. Plus when he told me his intentions for “helping” someone, who was 99% of the time a woman, I reflected myself on that, as INFJs have a crusader mentality and want to support the downtrodden. My Narc used that to cover what he was truly doing.
I am not a narcissist. I am surviver . I grew up in a narcissist family . I was married 4 times . All were Narcissist . I have escape . I have over come . Just understanding how the Narcissist behavior effected me . Understanding what happened to me as a child was not my fault .
Wow! I’m 100% super empath but I have had several supernova events over my life. This was so eye opening. I have freaked out and quit jobs i had for 5 years in the middle of my shift where I was being bullied at work. I have always won in every bad relationship somehow and I never understood what came over me in those times from completely powerless to the strongest person alive. I have a narcissist vampire energy sucker in my life as a friend right now and I found myself plotting intellectually which led me to this video. I feel the strength of the information right now and I sooo needed this. I understand myself so much more now. I think watching my mom deal with a horrible life of narcissistic relationships gave me the power to have these supernova events. Thank you thank you
WOW, Ty HG. You just clarified so much for me!!! 🎯 I hope your Legacy extends one day to Psychology students studying your work. I try my best to pass it on every chance I get. 💯
I never understood how at times during relationships I would bw the complete opposite of my normal empathic self & be more narcissistic.I would get in survival mindset & act very much like the narc until they went running away from me & would return yeats or months later.By that time my empathic side is back but I do not give the narc the time of day because i remember they brung out a side to me i dnt like.I would treat everyone including the narc that way until I would feel safe enough to be myself again.Its not a fun place or feeling for a true empath.Nothing to brag abt like some people do that dnt understand it.So glad Hg is explaining things so we all can truly understand the narc & empath.❤🌹🙌
He bring out a side of me I Don't like. The same...I'd like to be myself again. But it will not happen. I changed. He changed me. I changed because of him. Whatever...
I literally had my narc going through his own pictures in an attempt to "rebuild" his confidence lol to me he's so sexy but when he attempted to break my confidence, I super succeeded in returning the favor
Free Spirit, fellow Super Empath here. Very much agree with you that this is a brilliant video. The best advice HG gives, is when you know, you go. The only issue I have with this video is that HG is talking about the cadres of Empaths from a narcissistic perspective. HG knows his breathren better than anyone else and can give us all brilliant knowledge in that respect. HG also has brilliant knowledge on Empaths but again not from being an Empath but from a narcissistic point of view. I too was waiting for HG's video and perspective on the Empathic Supernova. On hearing HG almost lick his lips at the thought of 'dining' out on Empaths, I too found this interesting. Imagine if you were on a date with HG, knowing the calibre of the man HG is, it would be at one of the top restaurants. As a true Super Empath, from the moment you met HG that evening, you would know instantly something was off. You would instantly be on high alert, whilst still remaining cool, calm and collective. As you sit down at the dining table in the restaurant, your sense of something off would be at fever pitch. As you watch HG, his eyes will be dancing and he willl be licking his lips lavishly, because as the Ultra narcissist, HG knows who he has sitting in front of him. Your energy shield would be raised to full mast. Battle lines would be invisibly drawn across the dining table. As the evening progresses, you would slowly start to realise you are in fact sitting across from a Predator (no offence HG), who is not looking to eat the food on the table, but rather the tastefully dressed delicious date that accompanied HG to the restaurant for dinner. As a true Super Empath, and knowing what you are sitting across from, one false move from HG, and he would be wearing his dinner not eating it. You would stealthily make your move to exit in an elegant and classy manner, as quickly as possible and leave him with the cheque. Never to meet him again. Of all the cadre of narcissists, the highest up the chain I've been involved with was a mid range narcissist. I've never had an Ultra, HG, would be an interesting prospect. But, whilst I like a challenge, there is no fun for a Super Empath being with someone and having to be on high alert the whole time. That defeats the purpose of having fun and enjoying oneself. But still, HG would be an interesting challenge. 👊👍
@@Gtjsn From this angle, it’s entertaining for me to listen to HG. My heart starts to race the moment he utters his first syllable of every single video. I practice staying calm, unresponsive outwardly AND inwardly at his/their audacious attitude toward us. I believe it’s good that you feel the way you do. I believe it shows that you realise you are in the presence of a predator and that you will not succumb easily to its wiles.
It’s just giving the narcissist a taste of their own medicine as a way to get your self respect back! I have witnessed the narcissist responding like a robot that has gone faulty. Sometimes frantically trying to ‘press’ that button on me, that they confusingly find doesn’t work any more.
This was excellent! I now know there are different schools of empaths as well as it made perfect sense why I begin behaving the way I did. It actually did scare me as I had stopped apologizing and I felt justified for my lashing out and being indifferent when that’s not me not to apologize and to make things rite. This was so informative and truly helped and provided insight into my actions, behaviors and mindsets during the time. Can’t say it enough, thanks HG!🙏🏾 I would just add I was never paying the narc back or conscious of any manipulation as that’s never been my heart. I don’t play games it is what it is, let’s talk about it, deal with it and be done has always been me. I became indifferent and I laughed when I found out about narcissism last year because I found out I was giving so much injury from the beginning because combined with a few things I was also Christian so the behavior was out landish to me! So I was checking things at the gate! My devalue stage started very early on due to my ability to see straight through lies, manipulation and the lack of accountability for anything to anyone! The unacceptable behaviors and mindsets. The delusional state and the blame shifting, the turning stuff around constantly, the level of immaturity, the lack of substance, the offended state always upset, can’t say anything with out being misunderstood no matter how loving patient and clear the communication was, always seemed cynical and dead set on misunderstanding me! Couldn’t go long without starting things over dumb petty things. The smearing the trying to ruin my reputation when I am truly a good hearted person wtf!!!!!! Yeah it was on! But I was just protecting myself and I hated to have to go there but enough was enough! So now I know my nature and what was happening from a deeper level. It was exactly how I am!
Oh shit….. I did this. I was just talking to my friend about this today about how toxic this is for the partner of the narc-to learn his tools and use them against him. But I didn’t know it had a name. Wow. That’s actually when I decided to leave. I felt that I had been temporarily turned into someone I’m not. And I left……I finally left.
I'm grateful. You described exactly some of what I have done to survive a particularly narcissistic parent and several narcissistic types of people. Interestingly enough, every time this starts building, people who know me will try to prevent me from blowing up. Empaths, narcissistic types, and the average person. It usually ends up with me either leaving or making the other person leave whichever takes less energy or happens faster. Thanks, I don't feel like I'm a complete alien now.
The light shines in the darkness. And the darkness comprehended it not. You have all these videos, on how to make the narc respect you, love you, be obsessed with you, all that. And I laugh. You say its not possible. But I've had all of that. I've had them, try to completely mirror me. And be me. I'm the one that got away. I get replaced with complete bullshit, and laugh about it. I don't care about being alone. And because of my experiences, I'll be a lifelong student. Not only for me. But to help people, if I can.
This is pure brilliance 👌🏻 iv been laughing out loud at how true this all is and at my younger self. It’s so funny to hear someone explain how you were feeling at some point in your life with such dry honesty 👌🏻 spot on Sir.
Thank you for the explanation, it makes more sense to me now. Going super nova is an event, not a state of being. Last summer I brought a bad situation that had been dragging on to a head on purpose, as painful as it was I am better for it. I stood my ground, let all the family members know what I would and would not put up with and that I was not afraid to go to the law to stop it. I have the law on my side with legal documents to back me up. I look after my dad and his assets and let them know that there would be no thousands of dollars handed out to anyone on my watch. Then I walked away from them. That was last June. Yay me.
The more I listen to you, the more I get your humor, the more you make me laugh :) And the more I learn, of course. Thank you so much for your great work HG
It makes me giggle, sometimes you come off like such a character. You definitely take a while to get to the point but there is also really valuable information. Currently in my no contact period with the past situation I was in, still considering if it’s worth it to “get back at him” six months from now. I’ve done awful things that I felt driven to do because I was being treated unfairly: this caused an issue for my inner wellbeing because it doesn’t feel NICE for me to act like that to ANYONE.
This explains an event that occurred between myself and what I assumed to be an aware narcisist. He certainly appeared to love the challenge of trying to break me. He eventually resorted to discard after I continued to call bullshit on almost every play he had. Of course he reached out over a year later with one last attempt to hoover and I pretended I didn't remember him, the hate spewed forth as I laughed myself to death. I never considered myself an empath because I was pretty clueless about all this. Love your work HG, other content creators tend to leave questions unanswered but your content enables me to look back on past events with a lot of clarity and you have taught me a lot. I'm assuming I may be a contagion empath, from what I know so far but that supernova happened and what a clash it was. I kinda felt like I had lost because I let my narc traits take over but I don't doubt myself about that anymore. You explain things in excellent detail, thankyou!
Supernova is just another way to say I deliver the justice they implored me for. Thank you for this, it explains that dark part of me that I didn't understand when it took grip twice. My ease of lying and manipulation scared me the first time. I wonder... Are empaths better at lying?
I faced my pain I looked it straight in the. eye A crushing feeling came over me with a burning fire of relief then I knew I had to flee. THANK YOU MR H.G.👤
EXCELLENT HG!! I did this not knowing of course. I didn't realize what I was dealing with but knew I had to escape. So Appreciative and Grateful you bring us the best content. There is no need to go anywhere else.
Interesting. I stayed with my narc ex for two weeks plotting my escape. I showed him little respect, was cold towards him and he couldn’t do enough to please me. I left and stripped our house of everything , including all his much loved belongings and left a Dear John note for him to find when he came home from work. He had no idea where I’d gone. It was so satisfying to know I’d wounded him badly. Not sure if this classifies as a supernova or not 🤷♀️
I have thought a lot about the term cognitive empathy. what is being described seems to be a word that makes sense too. profilers, and some others, have the ability to have cognitive narcissism. I think that this is a version of a moment of that.
My narc and I Battle it out for 13 years; two months ago, I found out that she was a narc, so we are divorcing now, and yes, I take pleasure making her suffer now that I know that I’m dealing with somebody that has no empathy and never loved me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
HG, Has anyone ever told you your voice sounds like Sherlock Holmes? I smile whenever I hear it! 😄 BTW, I think Sherlock is a Narcissist too! I agree we are not Supernova Empaths, we GO Supernova! 💥 I don't run away from the fire. I run to it. I'm a kind and loving Super Empath, but when needed I fight fire with fire. Have a great day, HG!
I wouldn’t describe my experience as being a supernova event, however the consciousness shift that helped me fight back was that instead of feeling hurt, I felt anger at the injustices and betrayal. Instead of feeling confused, I found it absolutely infuriating there was no clarity, instead of listening to his words I focussed in on his actions/ behaviours. Instead of extending my empathy to him , I redirected it mostly back to myself. And I definitely had to not give a f*k if I came across as nit-picking, argumentative, enraged, threatening. I did what I needed to do to protect myself and my lifeforce I think societal conditioning has conditioned a great many of us to be “nice” and passive, esp. women. We have to learn to fight back when we are being victimised. If we don’t, it means our natural instincts are dumbed down/ shut down. Think of those narcissistic psychopaths that try to exert control over the human collective. What will become of us if we continue to be lambs to the slaughter?
The real being a superempath sounds more like; not lowering oneself to becoming like the narc; standing in love for yourself & even stating; that whatever happens, you shall always love them unconditionally; you want the best for you and for them. Well, that is staying in your empathy, but this time ALSO empathy towards oneself. One does not have to lower oneself to their behavior when going supernova. You just stay in the power of love, while they are just making fools of themselves by being hatefull towards you, trying to manipulate you like they did for many years but this time you do not fall into their trap; you are not being manipulative; they are, but you see that that is what they are doing, and you are not longer trapped into a response like crying, etctera. Once you see through the fact, and remember to love yourself enough to not put up with that behavior any longer will do just fine (they just never thought you would start loving yourself, they are in shock for they do not understand clearly what is happening at that time as it is foreign & makes no sense to them), and stay no contact indeed but that is not difficult once you know they are just emotionally manipulating you once again, and their lies become bigger and bigger and this time, well, this time, you not even doubt yourself if you would believe them or not; you just see right through because they are feeling attacked (by you not responding like they would like you to respond, or like you have been responding for years... no, you are not manipulative in your behavior, no, you are just not playing their game anymore, so that is a totally different thing; not letting them manipulate you is knowing you have boundaries and say; enough is enough; you are NOT manipulating when you put yourself OUT of the game you never knew you were playing before that); no one shall treat you like that anymore from now on! Being kind & honest with yourself has nothing to do with u having to use manipulative behaviors to win the battle. For them it is a battle, for you as a super empath (an awakened empath), it was never a battle, it was one big fat illusion, you finally see crystal clear & be sure; you will never fall asleep again; u will notice it from miles afar! Freedom starts when you love you enough and are willing to see the truth of who they are and not what they try to make you believe for years, decades, lifetimes... U do not have to explode yourself, or implode yourself, you are just - now you know they are playing a childish game - not playing with them this time. When one would applicate manipulative behaviors as an empath, one would just feel guilty, and that was the whole purpose of the narc's fuel, you remember, you feeling guilty... all the time. Just know u are lovable and u deserve to be treated like you treat others and that is kind; only that shall lead you to true freedom!
This channel is so interesting. I internally think of myself (long before learning of this subject matter) as part Mother Theresa - part Machiavelli. Hmm, a lot of people just see Mother Theresa though, I feel empathic but thoroughly in control of myself. I don't like narcissists but when they come on my radar I enjoy the combat, the mind games, I see the little child in them too though. Usually: I tolerate their behaviour and am nice to them. About once a year: I crush them (to keep them on their toes with me!). I secretly enjoy it.
If you are a super nova you sometimes do not know until you have won every battle. But the best part is the narcissist doesn’t know either because he always overplays his hand until he has lost every battle.‘unless he hid a hand. He best hope not! The super empath wins that somewhere down the line
Another thing that I saw but much later down the road, the narc delighted in shifting my character they used it against me and to aid in their smear campaign. The saving grace on a very small level was people who spent time with me kinda saw me and my character so the narc tried hard to continue to destroy me. It was sad and as I look back it hurts that someone would try to do such evil wicked things like what is that about!!!!!! I will never get past this revelation it’s been as deep as learning about Christ almost. It’s very deep and powerful and I will never wrap my brain around it! I get it enough to stay the hell away, I now know my worth and value but it’s still just crazy and strange to me!
Not strange at all when you read the Bible God speaks clearly about these types But still hard to wrap your head around Praise God! Because you are redeemable
Started learning about narcissism, and had to go through an empathic supernova in order to escape my abusive marriage. I’ve been free and “low contact” since August 14, 2021… 8 months now! we have children, I was no contact for 2 months until visitations started and now we communicate through an app. HG’s work was instrumental in my escape and recovery. My ex (upper mid range or type B I believe) only hovered me 1 time, called child services 1 time, and now keeps his distance for the time being. I’m Now going to school to be a teacher and am working at a preschool after being a stay at home mom for 7 years while he isolated us from the world. My narcissistic traits of pride and anger kept me in the fight for many years with him! His facade was soooooo good, it had me fooled for years until I finally saw through it. I fought back strategically and the last 2 months were horrendous. His abuse became unbearable.
From your perspective, if you set a boundary with the narc, and it was in the form of an ultimatum, and since then it had been givin we've had a kid together now who's almost a year old, Now the narc is going back on their word and and breaking the barrier, everything in me has been building to walking away and plotting the escape because I just can't anymore. Am I right to choose respecting myself and walking away over allowing boundaries to be walked on?
When I encounter a narc, I need to distance myself from them, partly because it is good for me, but also partly because there is a side of me that gets positive delight in tormenting them, and I sometimes worry about what I might do. I call it selective psychopathy, there is an evil, disgusting, yet perversely enjoyable part of my psyche that comes to life when it smells these vampires. Honestly, I am a total people pleaser most of the time, but I find I get "fuel" from actively "hunting" narcs, I enjoy it. The thing is, if you are a person with a basic level of morality you will have tools in your arsenal that the narc cannot see, this gives you a strategic advantage. Use these tools in conjunction with sustained malice towards them, and you will win. I have no idea if I am a super empath, no idea if this would count as an empath supernova. But it never manifests towards normals or empaths, I only eat narcs. Maybe I am a vegan narc? Who knows! Stay strong, and have a good day!
What does the super empath feel when they go in supernova? They usually feel that they r the narcissist
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Not really. Certainly some psychopathic traits appear to be on display, those are the flip side of empathy to my mind. Absolute disregard for the feelings of the other, if he / she ever had any. You simply don’t care. I’m not saying you deliberately inflict harm, I’m saying you tell it like it is. No more being there anytime anywhere; more of the, “Get lost. Who are you btw? “ And yes, when you can stand on your own two feet after a few months, you actually sue for what the freak has done. All your wonderful qualities? Your great memory? Being a good secretary and lending money etc…you have traces of everything so no problem showing emails and bank transactions. To his mom, his boss, everyone you just intuitively know he doesn’t want involved.
Actually, feelings deaden,vanish in an instant. It is war. "Bring it on! I have dealt with far better than you." If HG's supposition is correct, and if I fall into this category, this is what has happened to me with more than one, as genetics apparently are in play.
I don’t really know how to describe it. I’ve been driven to that point a couple of times. It’s like all feeling and emotions drain out of you. It’s weird to go from over feeling and over emotional to absolutely nothing. From I love you more than life to you’re dead to me.
Oh my goodness...The empath has narcissistic traits. I've always thought this but never have I heard another individual say such a thing. Always a little smile in my pain...Never felt destroyed...Almost like I came to play?? Anyways I cracked a smile
Sometimes I really feel awkward about myself. Don't f@ck with me that's all I can say. I'm smiling can't you see ? Always this feeling... Oh so you don't know with who you are playing my friend.... ? 😈😆😎 A battle between the good, the bad and the ugly. A cloak that I'm wearing to shield my boundaries. Ticking, like a clock at night...tic, toc, tic, toc... Guillotine.
@@prunelle9051 "We all have narcissistic traits," is becoming a more frequent saw of the psychological crowd. The flaw in this thinking... this conclusion, is that it suggests narcissism is universal base affect while empathy is not. I would suggest, if anything... that the base is empathy,,, and the reason for this is plain in the definition. Moreover, this narcissist's-centric thesis adopts an overly-simplistic view of the human psyche. Freud is the master here,,, not some YT channel & a slew of social media commentary.
Has anyone, who is genuinely a good person, loving caring and has morals that they defend strongly, ever felt like they have a truly evil, destructive, absolute vengeful inner monster ? Once it is released it can destroy everything and everyone with no regard or remorse?? I have always felt like this. And constantly fighting to keep it from being released for fear of the aftermath..
I wld love to say " let's play ", HG but I really don't need the darkness in my life. I want light and joy, not doom and gloom. Thank you so much for your body of work. 💛
I have felt bad about my behavior toward narcissistic people in my life when I've hit my limit with them. Now I understand where that behavior was coming from. Wonderful videos.
Oh my God! Yes. I had a covert narcissist(didn't know it) and I fought him blow by blow. After it was over I discovered he had horribly mistreated others ...something he didn't dare to to ME. I met him in his alleys and used his darkness against him. I was his equal in every way. In the end I exploded ... Went mad... surprised him and me.
This is how we can love you deeply one moment, then never talk to you again the next.
Yesssss FACTS
I don't think I'm an empath but a lot of this describes me. I'm currently devaluing my ex narc as he tries to hoover me. Just 2 weeks ago I told him how much I loved him. 2 days ago, I told him I saw no difference between him and my butcher. I meant it too. I'd like to think my aim was not to wound him but it was just the truth...
I've never considered myself an empath because although I'm good at reading people's emotions and love children and animals and hate to see suffering of any kind, I'm not an emotional person. Curiouser and curiouser.
Super empath will shake the narcissists world to the core bcz we do not play...
@KD UnitingMe 💙💙💙
Yup. All they do is Play!!
@@mrsmallpinky9041 It's clear you are one. How did Christianity get into this discussion??
@@mrsmallpinky9041 Seems like you are a major game player...
True
The super empath's supernova is strategic: thoughtful and deliberate with the conscious application of "manipulative" behaviors to win the battle that leads to freedom.
yes, indeed! exactly.
I agree, but HG has stated, if I remember correctly, that they stay & ocationally leave. I'm not the NPD expert here, but I'm the empath, I think is more like you refer.
Usually we love & give untill someone show blatant disrespect one or several times, then we cant not love them, no matter how hard we try, bc our narcissistic tendencies dominate over the empathic ones. We can never feel the same way towards that person, being it work or personal & we start planning our escape.
We leave, but before, we make sure to let them know we r not The Doormat. SE are kinda like a cat.
Agree
You know it Sky Lark
HA ha! I'm afraid my super nova exit strategy was pretty much unconscious and therefore I must be a lesser to mid-ranger!
perfect!I knew you wouldn't dissapoint me.I would like to say that one of the reasons that a super empath who doesn't know what narcissism is,goes to suprnova mode is his strong intuition.Super empaths don't just understand that something goes wrong.They are very good lie detectors and many times they can understand human reactions in a way that only a super empath can do.They understand that they are gaslighted,they understand that they are played,they understand the triangulation and many other things but because they have no idea what narcissism is,they can not explain what is going on and why all this is happening.Because th super empath is an individual who see life through a more realistic point of view they can accept the situations as they are and balance their emotions so they go on supernova mode.
When the super empath learns about narcissism and educate himself,his knowlege in compination with his intution means that the narcissist is an open book for the empath and the empath can be more playfull and manipulative.One more thing that is changing is the fact that the empath have no feelings anymore for the narc because now he see the true face.He loved once the soulmate he thought he found.He can not love an empty shell,a souless creature who wants destruction.
From eros & philia to agape.
@@_Silvermoonalpha That's right my lady!Even if έρως will fade through the passing of time it can be turn to real αγάπη:)
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Holy crap, you just described me and my situation!!!
@@_Silvermoonalpha omg, YES!!!!
This is mind blowing. I litterally felt like I was possessed. I was embarrassed and shocked by my own behavior. This makes complete sense. Thank you again.
Same, I started to think I was a narcissist, I don't know where it came from, I knew I was stretched to a limit and it was getting worse and worse; this is almost how all my relationships have been though, in hindsight, I just never saw the pattern because I was looking at it all wrong.
Nothing to be ashamed of standing up for yourself putting somebody in their place leveling the playing field forcing them to get a double dose of their own medicine that makes them stick you just did what they do to everyone else good job we can come out of these relationships with dignity self-respect and a whole lot of satisfaction and respect
Yes! Me too! I became so mean, so ugly, so vicious. I disliked myself! I was so cold, I had to put on a sweater in order not to freeze. Before it ended I went crazy. I kept screaming, "I told you, not to fuck with me! I told you, you didn't want to see this side of me!"
What's ironic is I knew I had another side, but I'm not sure how I knew.
It's over now....yes...it's over...at least for me. Every once in a while he crawls out from under his rock, and rallies his flying monkeys. You know what's stranger? I can't hate him. I see him as damaged goods.
OMG I feel the same way! Soooo much info!
@@ryanreagan6073 I did this accidently.....left him totally pulverised......then back pedalled 🙄 6 years ago though and I learnt a lot.
When the narcissist said “You’ll never win against me” I took it upon myself to slowly lure him into shooting himself in the foot (so to speak)
I wonder if his still thinks his statement is true as he sits in his jail cell.
Checkmate
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🤣🤣good job
Same here I put my ex narc in jail 3times in 6mnths
😂😂😂😂😂💪👏👏👏👏 well done ! Narcs don’t have strategic foresight or any meaningful thought process, just evil in the moment thoughts/gratification like a junkie to get their next high n then look again
Honestly i do wonder which is more evil the empath or the Narcissist. We can read them, know what they are thinking, put traps under their noses and hide it with their ego. And when they spring the trap we are far away.
You're 'in it'... You let your Narcissism rise, play with the narc like a cat plays with a half dead mouse... And when you are done, you push the Narcissism down.
Highly pleasurable. Zero regrets.
Yes, I agree. A highly satisfying use of ones fully integrated dark elements. Regrets? None.
Yes some what true ZERO regrets for sure.
By every criteria from every video of his on this, I am a super empath who was tangled up with a mid, maybe upper mid range covert narcissist for 8 years.
Coming down off a super nova event makes me feel sick and sometimes guilty as my empathic traits come back to the front. I definitely don't miss it.
I do nonetheless in retrospect cherish the pain I caused that disgusting beast.
@@RexApplegate 😢
I feel like I'm sitting at the balcony of an opera with vintage longview, enjoying the show with a Mona Lisa smile 😘. Kindness, always my dear. Now, go to your room. You get out when I say.😘😘 😆
My narc ex actually called me the narcissist. I see now that it was because I fought back, and fought hard from early on. I knew his behaviour and treatment of me was f****d up and wrong. I would dump him, he would Hoover, I'd take him back , and the battle would ensue. BUT my emotional thinking did keep me in this battle for 3 bloody years. It's been 6 months now since over seen him. When I got rid of him for the last time, there was no fight; I said simply, 'I dont want this anymore'. Havent spoken ti him since. I finally accepted that he can never change. Plus, he was causing so much anxiety in me that, by the end, even his voice would cause irritation and anxiety. I knew I had to save myself.
@most the games the voice even gave anxiety as well. I stumbled across a voice recording of one on our arguments (which I would did because he had select amnesia) and I became paralyzed in my mind momentarily and started feeling triggered with anxiety.
I’m so relieved to discover I am not alone in this.
Now I want to vomit when I even think of listening to the music he makes. He's a mean asshole. He's dead to me.
Described to the T
My soon to be divorced wife too called me a Narc but came to find out she was one.
There are people in this world who are like walking mirrors. They reflect everything back to you. They will reflect back to you who you are. It's a very powerful superpower and it's next level. Their light is simply too bright for any of "our kind" or "your kind"
When the unrelenting domestic abuse led to me filing for sole conservatorship of our child, I was afraid I had become him. I was so singularly focused on exposing his abuse. I was an unrelenting freight train going through the judicial system.
With no money, I represented myself. I battled my abusive ex who is a member of the Washington DC bar, as well as his overpaid aggressive attorney. They lost the counter-suit, continuances, legal fees in another court, and ultimately custody.
Examples of how psycho I became, the abusive ex had to file more than one restraining order. I wasn't hurting him physically, I was creating my own fundraising website page featuring evidence of his abuse through photos, text, emails, and a 911 audio. I was also emailing and faxing his employer and the DC bar of his continuing abusive behavior.
Even at the final hearing October 7, 2020, I have a permanent injunction against me to not post one specific item. I agreed, along with receiving sole conservatorship and control of the college fund. He was also passed over for partnership after 10 years of working with the firm.
Watching my abusive ex pay his high-priced attorney to make me stop was PRICELESS!
Now that I have won sole conservatorship, I have cooled my jets and am at peace. Most importantly, my child feels protected and at peace. She knows she will never be court ordered to spend time with him. She watched her mother become her fiercest advocate in the corrupt judicial system, and win!
Thank you for explaining that temporary ruthless mode. I did not want to stay in it. Now I'm back to gardening and baking.
Dear AMC.....that literally was the BEST thing that I have ever read from ANY comments on ANY video ever watched in the last two years learning about narcissist personality disorder! I have endured 40 years and almost all my inheritance! I am an INFJ - T, HSP, and and empath who has gone super nova! I am literally psychologically abusing him, won in a restraining order from my emails and I am NOT done yet!!
Again, you are one incredibly stodgy woman! Congratulations!! Stay blessed! 🌺💪🙏
Loved your story! I would love to create a site with screen shots and videos...it's best I stay quiet and safe, though.
This made me cry. Beautifully done.
Good for you. Being Fearless. I was terrified when I filed for divorce. He became more covert and Overtly abusive. He groomed and paid our children to abuse my life with him. Now they are 36 and 39...they abuse me the way their Dad did....I remarried to a very good honest man....they abuse him, and try to get between us. They have done horrifying abuse. Now I know that contact with my adult children enables the Ex Covert Narc to know my business and coach my children to harm my life. I BLOCKED ALL OF THEM. I feel sick to think about contact with any of them. 42 years if their abuse is too much.
@@kimkeck6266 INFJ_A here . My explosive moments , have been against an abusive landlord . Won the case and helped 300+ others to collect as a result & this was the start of the benefits for 2,500 other tenants of the same landlord , and destroying their narc web in the community as far as it's possible to do - the landlords staff have been told how I intended to get them , should any further problems arise for my associates or self .- so far , peace had reigned , though a new narc tenant is about to find out the hard way , it's not a good idea to abuse the people around them . 🫢🤔🙂👍
The last minute of this video got real dark. Sent chills up my spine. The sooner you guys understand this is spiritual warfare the easier the fight becomes. Glory to God who fights my battles. 🙏🏿🙌🏿
Honestly!!! Low-key enticing though 😭
I’ve been waiting for this video. Before learning that I’m a super empath I was always confused why can’t I just shut up and take it. Now I understand who I am and it’s so liberating. Thank you
yes i totally agree just cant shut up and take it no more
I TELL THEM RIGHT TO THERE FACE, " YOU WISH U WERE ME, WHATEVER. " & WALK AWAY. NOW I GAVE MY SICK MOTHER & COUSIN'S NO CONTACT....WORKS WONDERS, THEY ARE STILL HOOVERING & IM LOVING MY FREEDOM FROM A LIFETIME OF ABUSE. ~ CONGRATS NARCS SURVIVOR ✊🏼😁🎯
@@jogriffiths5766 My husband said if the men he worked with at the station heard the way I talked to him, they'd tell him to "get [his] woman under control!" That made me laugh at the time, but I am beginning to realize why he said it.
@@jogriffiths5766 mine said he couldn't "read me" like he could other people. Was he reading others,or just manipulating them in to following his script...
Yesss SAME HERE.....I COULDN'T JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE IT
The narc mirrors us, so then we turn it around and hold it in their face.
Yep I’ve done this and it’s beautiful!! Awesome !!!
Yep done it as well, turns them blind and completely mental , u can actually see the screws come away 😂😂😂😂
Done it. Poetic justice.
I don't understand this, except to say, does this mean that when we are first lovebombed we are falling in love with ourselves?
Supernova is when we revert to the behavior of the midrange covert narcissist....it is possible and justified, and taught WELL by our previous owner, but they are NOT worth the time or effort.
It's higher than mid range. We know what were doing and we do it intentionally.
You are so right!!!
dunno i dont think it was at all covert when i went supernova i let the bitch know in no uncertain terms how unhappy i was with the manipulations i could see them by then though the blinkers were off
Way more akin to the Ultra than Midrange. Supernova means when something is dying. The energy produced is inexplicable, outrageous and methodical. Unfortunately the guilt that goes along with these types of behaviors does not disengage. After all these years, I still feel guilty the way I treated her at the end..
My mom said that I could be whatever I wanted!
LOL!
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Lol
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LMBO!!!!!
The narcissist is full of insecurities and an empath will pick up on all - including what they try to hide. How they portray themselves and what makes them annoyed. The loss of control is big. Their motivations and responses are clocked. Not sure if I agree an empath will become a narcissist tho - even for a short time. We are human - we do get angry and upset. Slamming the emotional door on someone is self-preservation. I am starting to realize I have danced with narcissists in the past and never got drawn in, I left before any real bond was forged. All I can say is beware of the covert narcissist. They use your empathy as a weapon against you. If anybody tells you - you are too independent - show them the door.
wish i had.
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My grandmother was an ole school southern belle or a steel magnolia. She used to say," Give them some of their own damn polite." She was a wise and kind woman. If you deliberately disrespected her, she brought down the wrath from all sides. The narcissist ran away. The End. That's all fokes!
Incredibly helpful and explains perfectly what I went through with a greater narc. Therapist at the time thought I was 'acting out because of history with my mother.' ...Nope, wrong. I was being abused, and finally standing up to it and calling it out.
Some therapists are cz and narcs themselves...
It is absolutely amazing. I was discarded by my parents last Xmas and did exactly what you told. I spent the whole year studying narcissism (2020) and only afterwards I come across the information. My father is an ULTRA, my mother COVERT. My sister Lesser. I was a codependent and became superempath and now I know that when I walked away to never come back that was the supernova moment. 😊🙌🙏what a wonderful gift for Xmas one year later.
So sorry to hear of your sadness (as well as elation).
Heal and bind up your wounds. Pour your gifts into those who appreciate and will increase goodness in the world. Don't stare into the abyss. Jesus' actions prove His love for you He will set you free indeed. You can get through this, it does get easier.
I doubt he was an ultra. Maybe an upper mid range or a lower greater. And covert isn't a type. Is a BEHAVIOR.
hugs ... am happy for you ...
HG is the only Ultra.
THANK YOU JAH FOR BRINGING YOUR KINGDOM TO MY HOME! SOLID! ALL YOU! AMEN!
I had the empath detector, very interesting and personalised to me by the mighty HG himself. Once I had the results of the type of empathic schools I belonged to I then searched his videos for each of those and learned more about them. It really did ring true the result I received and it's good to know the outcome. He also tells you what type of narcs you're more likely to attract, I then searched his videos and learned more about them. Well worth while.
Good to read, I am pleased you found it so useful.
I have just started the journey. I am Significant Super + CoDependant, plus strong Standard.
All learned after taking HGs empath test. Now, I am wondering how Empaths are created. So want to listen and learn and understand, from HGs hundreds and hundreds of videos explaining why 🥰🏴🇬🇧
“I see & hear you” @hgtudor-theultra
My supernova event consisted of me calling up the movers when my N was out of state for three weeks and moving completely out of our house to go live 1,500 miles away, never to have contact with the N ever again. :::high five::: 😀 That was a glorious 15 "no contact" years ago. I'm back to living happily 😊 with my garden, being around good people and learning via continuing education about what happened to me so that it will never happen again. Thanks ever so much, H.G. Tudor (tutor?).
The interesting dynamic-- empaths are Truth Seekers. And it seems super ones ARE drawn towards wanting to see the darkness inside Your Kind. I can feel the addiction, it's visceral. I'm definitely going to study this more. This material is addicting ♥︎
When a narcissist doesn’t want you anymore it’s simply because they’ve lost control over you or found (in their mind) a better supply. What the narcissist fails to understand is that their control (in their mind) over you is given freely and no manipulation is/was required on their part. Honesty is not a quality that a narcissist possesses therefore the only honesty that is required from the empath is to oneself. Never waist my time playing fair with a narcissist, assume at all times that you’re dealing with an ultra narcissist.
Yeah just trust yourself and look at everyone as a zombie. We are in the end times anyway. What is good will prevail and what is dead stays stagnant.
@@n0426not end times at all. Feels like thet when the wave hits the climax both up and down. Life will balance again. For a while at least lol. Enjoy this crazy beautiful ride
Before I went no contact with my father, I used to use manipulation in response to his manipulation and abuse. I felt extraordinarily guilty about it for a long time, but hearing it broken down like this makes it very clear that my actions were simply retaliation equal to the abuse I received.
I do not enjoy being in a supernova mode. I enjoy it too much in the moment but when it’s over I feel horrible.
I kinda do too but sometimes it needs to be done.
So true
Embracing the dark side for a period. Still loving yet vengeful. Joy in your pain. So disturbing lol...You really tapped into this one. Sort of brought me peace.
I had no idea that it had a name, The Empathic Supernova, but my therapist said he had never heard of anyone doing what I did to get the narc to leave in duress. I knew something was wrong early in the manipulationship but at 8 months, I had enough of its crazy-making. I created an environment so hostile, it had to leave. I guess it’s safe to say that it won’t be back. 😁
😂😂😂😂😂
how did you do it?? please tell me
@@inanaeliana2470 make them hate you. Just look ugly act dump and overall uninteresting. Nrcs are so superficial and WILL get bored.
I just did this! I would like to speak to you actually 🎉 my supernova awakening is intense 😮🎉
I just happened to have, very recently, experienced a supernova event. Our neighbor has been drawing fuel from me for a little over a year. Trying to establish healthy boundaries has been draining and emotionally exhausting and, as you might guess, absolutely fruitless. I set up a restaurant meeting for lunch and she drove. During lunch I told her that her need for control was pervasive and that I couldn’t be friends unless she was able to respect others’ autonomy. Unsurprisingly, she left me stranded at the restaurant with the unpaid bill. I paid, got home and blocked all communication. I feel like a new person. Thanks, HG! I couldn’t have done it without you. ♥️
Damn, I just realised why my narc broke off the relationship the way he did both times. First time I called his lies out in front of other people and told him to 'just stop his BS'. It was done calmly, quietly and politely but I wasn't under control and hadn't been for a while. I publically challenged the mask and the next day it was over. Thinking back, the look on his face when I called him out was one of terror.
The second time I wasn't under control anymore either. I was calm, cool and collected but told him enough was enough and called him out on his BS.
Last time I saw him I was totally out of his control. I was polite, calm and just spoke my truth without emotion and didn't fall for any of his manipulations. Then I just walked out of his life with a cheery goodbye.
Yayyy, go me! I hadn't realised that before. Thanks HG, I feel great now :)
We stand our ground with a high sense of justice. Before I knew anything about empaths and narcissists I had a boss who was treating me like shite. I was describing his behaviour to a friend who happened to be an HR professional, she told me his behaviour sounded like what is known as Constructive Dismissal, where they attempt to make your work life so miserable that you quit. I took a documented example of his behaviour to my own HR which then went up the chain of command. Long story short he was let go months later, not so much because of my actions but because of his own ineptitude and bad decisions.
The point is that I naturally stood my ground and fought back. Most people in the corporate world do not do this, most people will actually quit or make a move to be transferred. I could have done either but I liked my job and there was no way I was going to let an a-hole like him take it away.
Years later as I was researching narcissism I finally realised what he was.
What is amazing is when you decide youve had enough, and yougosupernova you force respect, even from non narcs,its just such a strengh we have thats so very sincere that we are standing fully in our truth. Not everyone can do this, so they are forced to recognize we have tremendous strength.
I never had any intention on one-upping the man I loved but he's an upper greater narcissist so I have to save myself . I don't want to hurt him back. I have to take care of myself now and stay vigilant
Yes save yourself and know your worth💖
@@theanonymoushelpline7248 yes exactly i dont feel pride in going supernova i happened as a consequence of the outragous narc behaviour its a instinct to shut it down and get them gone
There is only Love or fear
Your kind is all about fear
Empaths are all about Love
It is so interesting to hear this explained. I did this with a greater and a lesser but i didnt know about narcissism at the time. I was able to do this after i let go of them emotioanlly, and knew somehow turning things around would benefit my growth. To be able to face the narcissist without ghosting and without emotionally breaking down, feels like a kind of freedom and power. Like the kind of power a narc gets from fuel maybe. There is still pain involved, but you feel like you are facing your demons. It feels like you are dragged to this dark place, and you stay and face it, and face them. And then another narc is around the corner to see if you have learned anything....Thank you HG for explaining the patterns.My truth seeking has finally been satisfied and feels like a complete cycle.
I hate how much I love this video. But it is so damn validating.
Thank you for making sense of every fight I let go unresolved!
It was fun to just play with them at the end. Really helps the healing process.
So does this video.
My gratitude.
It was a long and bloody battle. I remember, like a switch flipped, when my narcissistic qualities came forefront; gloves off- and the war ensued. I am not proud of that. Glad to put a name to it though and that I'm not a narcissist, at least. 😕
This vid explained to me fully the sequence of events that have transpired that I couldn’t put my finger on. It explained a lot of events in my past as well. Thank you. I know they will come back eventually for a malign attempt. Many have tried. All have failed. When we are done, we are done. I look forward to the videos to come.
This is a perfect description and explanation of my last night spent with my narc woman. It began with her starting an argument while we were in bed and ended when she got up, dressed and said she was going home. I had had enough of her manipulations and abuse and told her several times if she left the relationship was over. She did leave and I immediately went No Contact . Only s few hours later the Grand Hoover began and lasted almost two weeks. I haven't seen her now for over a month ends calls and texts stopped about 10 days ago. I only wonder if she has given up entirely or will she try another Hoover in the future. Thank you so much for the advice and knowledge you have provided me. I am forever grateful.
Ha ha ha ha ha I've done this to several Narcissists and actually I'm really proud of myself.
Sounds to me like an invite to H.G! 🤔
Sounds a bit narcacistic 🤔😅
Im proud of you, wanna be more like you, in this...
Pride is a narc trait, keep that on low low doses!!!
@@rebeccafreeman9883 don't emulate pride seek humility to end narcissistic abuse
I think this happened to me recently. This narcissist that I wasn’t sure at that time he was one. Pushed me too far and I broke and fought back. That was the end of the ‘relationship’. I called him out and held it in his face. He tried to use word salad. He deflected. I knew what I was seeing. He is a cerebral narcissist (a Doctor) thought he was the most brilliant in the world. Emotionally he was like a child and as deep as a puddle. The mask was off and he knew it. He extracted himself from the ‘relationship’. He had sustained too much narcissist injury so he bailed.
And our society puts these abusive people on pedestals. A friend was married to a narc (MD) who used to beat her up, cheated on her, manipulated her constantly . They dedicated a new wing of the hospital he worked @ to him.
I was so behind on education I couldn't even imagine what I am really going through. Thank you for validation and perfect explanation.
So many of your examples describe how I deal with it!
Flight or fight.
I have even tried what you are saying, just enough is enough, type of thing, but a little (BIG) thing called love draws me back!
Shout out to INFPs, the rightfully self-righteous. I hope your Empathic Supernovas are effective and worthwhile. Over my lifetime, mine were used against me until they no longer could. In the end, the truth is shining bright.
INFP here !
INFJ - Turbulent here. But I did not supernova. Also, it was a long-distance relationship, so I did not see cheating per se. Plus when he told me his intentions for “helping” someone, who was 99% of the time a woman, I reflected myself on that, as INFJs have a crusader mentality and want to support the downtrodden. My Narc used that to cover what he was truly doing.
Interesting. My narc ex is actually an infp. A covert narc.
Not all infps my ex was infp mid range narc. Careful narcs can be any type
Thanks
Mr Ultra. Who could be bothered. Ultra efficient.
Dine on this. Majority from above.
Holy majority.
Super nova you.
Depends on the weather.
I am not a narcissist. I am surviver . I grew up in a narcissist family . I was married 4 times . All were Narcissist . I have escape . I have over come . Just understanding how the Narcissist behavior effected me . Understanding what happened to me as a child was not my fault .
HG, in 23mins you made complete sense of my entire life. Can't wait to tell my therapist. Thank you
Wow! I’m 100% super empath but I have had several supernova events over my life. This was so eye opening. I have freaked out and quit jobs i had for 5 years in the middle of my shift where I was being bullied at work. I have always won in every bad relationship somehow and I never understood what came over me in those times from completely powerless to the strongest person alive. I have a narcissist vampire energy sucker in my life as a friend right now and I found myself plotting intellectually which led me to this video. I feel the strength of the information right now and I sooo needed this. I understand myself so much more now. I think watching my mom deal with a horrible life of narcissistic relationships gave me the power to have these supernova events. Thank you thank you
IM SO BLESSED.AND HIGHLY FAVORED! AHHH!
WOW, Ty HG. You just clarified so much for me!!! 🎯 I hope your Legacy extends one day to Psychology students studying your work. I try my best to pass it on every chance I get. 💯
I never understood how at times during relationships I would bw the complete opposite of my normal empathic self & be more narcissistic.I would get in survival mindset & act very much like the narc until they went running away from me & would return yeats or months later.By that time my empathic side is back but I do not give the narc the time of day because i remember they brung out a side to me i dnt like.I would treat everyone including the narc that way until I would feel safe enough to be myself again.Its not a fun place or feeling for a true empath.Nothing to brag abt like some people do that dnt understand it.So glad Hg is explaining things so we all can truly understand the narc & empath.❤🌹🙌
He bring out a side of me I Don't like. The same...I'd like to be myself again. But it will not happen. I changed. He changed me. I changed because of him. Whatever...
I literally had my narc going through his own pictures in an attempt to "rebuild" his confidence lol to me he's so sexy but when he attempted to break my confidence, I super succeeded in returning the favor
As a super empath, I’ve been waiting for you to do this and you did not disappoint. I relish the opportunity to ‘battle’ you.
Free Spirit, fellow Super Empath here. Very much agree with you that this is a brilliant video. The best advice HG gives, is when you know, you go. The only issue I have with this video is that HG is talking about the cadres of Empaths from a narcissistic perspective. HG knows his breathren better than anyone else and can give us all brilliant knowledge in that respect. HG also has brilliant knowledge on Empaths but again not from being an Empath but from a narcissistic point of view. I too was waiting for HG's video and perspective on the Empathic Supernova. On hearing HG almost lick his lips at the thought of 'dining' out on Empaths, I too found this interesting. Imagine if you were on a date with HG, knowing the calibre of the man HG is, it would be at one of the top restaurants. As a true Super Empath, from the moment you met HG that evening, you would know instantly something was off. You would instantly be on high alert, whilst still remaining cool, calm and collective. As you sit down at the dining table in the restaurant, your sense of something off would be at fever pitch. As you watch HG, his eyes will be dancing and he willl be licking his lips lavishly, because as the Ultra narcissist, HG knows who he has sitting in front of him. Your energy shield would be raised to full mast. Battle lines would be invisibly drawn across the dining table. As the evening progresses, you would slowly start to realise you are in fact sitting across from a Predator (no offence HG), who is not looking to eat the food on the table, but rather the tastefully dressed delicious date that accompanied HG to the restaurant for dinner. As a true Super Empath, and knowing what you are sitting across from, one false move from HG, and he would be wearing his dinner not eating it. You would stealthily make your move to exit in an elegant and classy manner, as quickly as possible and leave him with the cheque. Never to meet him again. Of all the cadre of narcissists, the highest up the chain I've been involved with was a mid range narcissist. I've never had an Ultra, HG, would be an interesting prospect. But, whilst I like a challenge, there is no fun for a Super Empath being with someone and having to be on high alert the whole time. That defeats the purpose of having fun and enjoying oneself. But still, HG would be an interesting challenge. 👊👍
lol....... spoken like a Warrior.
@@littad7128 there is no fun in dining with a wolf!
@@dormanmom01 exactly! They are energy vampires! No fun in that!
@@Gtjsn From this angle, it’s entertaining for me to listen to HG. My heart starts to race the moment he utters his first syllable of every single video. I practice staying calm, unresponsive outwardly AND inwardly at his/their audacious attitude toward us. I believe it’s good that you feel the way you do. I believe it shows that you realise you are in the presence of a predator and that you will not succumb easily to its wiles.
It’s just giving the narcissist a taste of their own medicine as a way to get your self respect back! I have witnessed the narcissist responding like a robot that has gone faulty. Sometimes frantically trying to ‘press’ that button on me, that they confusingly find doesn’t work any more.
This was excellent! I now know there are different schools of empaths as well as it made perfect sense why I begin behaving the way I did. It actually did scare me as I had stopped apologizing and I felt justified for my lashing out and being indifferent when that’s not me not to apologize and to make things rite. This was so informative and truly helped and provided insight into my actions, behaviors and mindsets during the time.
Can’t say it enough, thanks HG!🙏🏾
I would just add I was never paying the narc back or conscious of any manipulation as that’s never been my heart. I don’t play games it is what it is, let’s talk about it, deal with it and be done has always been me. I became indifferent and I laughed when I found out about narcissism last year because I found out I was giving so much injury from the beginning because combined with a few things I was also Christian so the behavior was out landish to me! So I was checking things at the gate! My devalue stage started very early on due to my ability to see straight through lies, manipulation and the lack of accountability for anything to anyone! The unacceptable behaviors and mindsets. The delusional state and the blame shifting, the turning stuff around constantly, the level of immaturity, the lack of substance, the offended state always upset, can’t say anything with out being misunderstood no matter how loving patient and clear the communication was, always seemed cynical and dead set on misunderstanding me! Couldn’t go long without starting things over dumb petty things. The smearing the trying to ruin my reputation when I am truly a good hearted person wtf!!!!!! Yeah it was on! But I was just protecting myself and I hated to have to go there but enough was enough! So now I know my nature and what was happening from a deeper level. It was exactly how I am!
Oh shit….. I did this. I was just talking to my friend about this today about how toxic this is for the partner of the narc-to learn his tools and use them against him. But I didn’t know it had a name. Wow. That’s actually when I decided to leave. I felt that I had been temporarily turned into someone I’m not. And I left……I finally left.
I'm grateful. You described exactly some of what I have done to survive a particularly narcissistic parent and several narcissistic types of people. Interestingly enough, every time this starts building, people who know me will try to prevent me from blowing up. Empaths, narcissistic types, and the average person. It usually ends up with me either leaving or making the other person leave whichever takes less energy or happens faster. Thanks, I don't feel like I'm a complete alien now.
The light shines in the darkness. And the darkness comprehended it not. You have all these videos, on how to make the narc respect you, love you, be obsessed with you, all that. And I laugh. You say its not possible. But I've had all of that. I've had them, try to completely mirror me. And be me. I'm the one that got away. I get replaced with complete bullshit, and laugh about it. I don't care about being alone. And because of my experiences, I'll be a lifelong student. Not only for me. But to help people, if I can.
This is pure brilliance 👌🏻 iv been laughing out loud at how true this all is and at my younger self. It’s so funny to hear someone explain how you were feeling at some point in your life with such dry honesty 👌🏻 spot on Sir.
Thank you for the explanation, it makes more sense to me now. Going super nova is an event, not a state of being. Last summer I brought a bad situation that had been dragging on to a head on purpose, as painful as it was I am better for it. I stood my ground, let all the family members know what I would and would not put up with and that I was not afraid to go to the law to stop it. I have the law on my side with legal documents to back me up. I look after my dad and his assets and let them know that there would be no thousands of dollars handed out to anyone on my watch. Then I walked away from them. That was last June. Yay me.
The more I listen to you, the more I get your humor, the more you make me laugh :) And the more I learn, of course. Thank you so much for your great work HG
It makes me giggle, sometimes you come off like such a character. You definitely take a while to get to the point but there is also really valuable information. Currently in my no contact period with the past situation I was in, still considering if it’s worth it to “get back at him” six months from now. I’ve done awful things that I felt driven to do because I was being treated unfairly: this caused an issue for my inner wellbeing because it doesn’t feel NICE for me to act like that to ANYONE.
This explains an event that occurred between myself and what I assumed to be an aware narcisist. He certainly appeared to love the challenge of trying to break me. He eventually resorted to discard after I continued to call bullshit on almost every play he had. Of course he reached out over a year later with one last attempt to hoover and I pretended I didn't remember him, the hate spewed forth as I laughed myself to death. I never considered myself an empath because I was pretty clueless about all this. Love your work HG, other content creators tend to leave questions unanswered but your content enables me to look back on past events with a lot of clarity and you have taught me a lot. I'm assuming I may be a contagion empath, from what I know so far but that supernova happened and what a clash it was. I kinda felt like I had lost because I let my narc traits take over but I don't doubt myself about that anymore. You explain things in excellent detail, thankyou!
Supernova is just another way to say I deliver the justice they implored me for.
Thank you for this, it explains that dark part of me that I didn't understand when it took grip twice. My ease of lying and manipulation scared me the first time.
I wonder...
Are empaths better at lying?
we can, but we are super good people, we selected not do it
A sense of humor... go figure. 😂 glad to be one of your supplies. 😮
This is the video I didn’t know I’ve been waiting for. Thank you for the clarifications! I’ve been feeling torn.
You are welcome.
That's me too.
Just before Im feeling like Im gonna breakdown, I disappear for a little while, to regroup.
This video left me without doubt, you're for real. I've happily purchased the book "fuel", if for nothing else than to support your work.
I faced my pain I looked it straight in the. eye
A crushing feeling came over me with a burning fire of relief
then I knew I had to flee. THANK YOU MR H.G.👤
EXCELLENT HG!!
I did this not knowing of course. I didn't realize what I was dealing with but knew I had to escape. So Appreciative and Grateful you bring us the best content. There is no need to go anywhere else.
Interesting. I stayed with my narc ex for two weeks plotting my escape. I showed him little respect, was cold towards him and he couldn’t do enough to please me. I left and stripped our house of everything , including all his much loved belongings and left a Dear John note for him to find when he came home from work. He had no idea where I’d gone. It was so satisfying to know I’d wounded him badly.
Not sure if this classifies as a supernova or not 🤷♀️
Ohhhhhhh yessssss its classified all right!!!!! You had enough and fought back. Awesomeee
I have thought a lot about the term cognitive empathy. what is being described seems to be a word that makes sense too. profilers, and some others, have the ability to have cognitive narcissism.
I think that this is a version of a moment of that.
I have no interest in the question of whether I am a super empath. I just know what I have to do. Thank you HG for your life changing work. 🙏
I just watched you on Eric hurleys channel...love the voice..also love the honest information you give about others and yourself
Welcome on board, Carissa.
My narc and I Battle it out for 13 years; two months ago, I found out that she was a narc, so we are divorcing now, and yes, I take pleasure making her suffer now that I know that I’m dealing with somebody that has no empathy and never loved me.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Thanks Tudor! Very informative and enlightening!
HG, Has anyone ever told you your voice sounds like Sherlock Holmes? I smile whenever I hear it! 😄 BTW, I think Sherlock is a Narcissist too! I agree we are not Supernova Empaths, we GO Supernova! 💥 I don't run away from the fire. I run to it. I'm a kind and loving Super Empath, but when needed I fight fire with fire. Have a great day, HG!
If a cobra could speak, it’s voice would be HG Tudor’s.
I’m thinking Bagheera from Jungle Book. The old cartoon.
If you have been listening long enough you would know, this is his 'stage' voice and very apt in context of the channel
Haha i thought that about his voice too
I wouldn’t describe my experience as being a supernova event, however the consciousness shift that helped me fight back was that instead of feeling hurt, I felt anger at the injustices and betrayal. Instead of feeling confused, I found it absolutely infuriating there was no clarity, instead of listening to his words I focussed in on his actions/ behaviours. Instead of extending my empathy to him , I redirected it mostly back to myself.
And I definitely had to not give a f*k if I came across as nit-picking, argumentative, enraged, threatening. I did what I needed to do to protect myself and my lifeforce
I think societal conditioning has conditioned a great many of us to be “nice” and passive, esp. women. We have to learn to fight back when we are being victimised. If we don’t, it means our natural instincts are dumbed down/ shut down. Think of those narcissistic psychopaths that try to exert control over the human collective. What will become of us if we continue to be lambs to the slaughter?
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"....coming to play"
That is exactly why narcissists are boring. They play hide and seek. Like children do.
The real being a superempath sounds more like; not lowering oneself to becoming like the narc; standing in love for yourself & even stating; that whatever happens, you shall always love them unconditionally; you want the best for you and for them. Well, that is staying in your empathy, but this time ALSO empathy towards oneself. One does not have to lower oneself to their behavior when going supernova. You just stay in the power of love, while they are just making fools of themselves by being hatefull towards you, trying to manipulate you like they did for many years but this time you do not fall into their trap; you are not being manipulative; they are, but you see that that is what they are doing, and you are not longer trapped into a response like crying, etctera. Once you see through the fact, and remember to love yourself enough to not put up with that behavior any longer will do just fine (they just never thought you would start loving yourself, they are in shock for they do not understand clearly what is happening at that time as it is foreign & makes no sense to them), and stay no contact indeed but that is not difficult once you know they are just emotionally manipulating you once again, and their lies become bigger and bigger and this time, well, this time, you not even doubt yourself if you would believe them or not; you just see right through because they are feeling attacked (by you not responding like they would like you to respond, or like you have been responding for years... no, you are not manipulative in your behavior, no, you are just not playing their game anymore, so that is a totally different thing; not letting them manipulate you is knowing you have boundaries and say; enough is enough; you are NOT manipulating when you put yourself OUT of the game you never knew you were playing before that); no one shall treat you like that anymore from now on! Being kind & honest with yourself has nothing to do with u having to use manipulative behaviors to win the battle. For them it is a battle, for you as a super empath (an awakened empath), it was never a battle, it was one big fat illusion, you finally see crystal clear & be sure; you will never fall asleep again; u will notice it from miles afar! Freedom starts when you love you enough and are willing to see the truth of who they are and not what they try to make you believe for years, decades, lifetimes... U do not have to explode yourself, or implode yourself, you are just - now you know they are playing a childish game - not playing with them this time. When one would applicate manipulative behaviors as an empath, one would just feel guilty, and that was the whole purpose of the narc's fuel, you remember, you feeling guilty... all the time. Just know u are lovable and u deserve to be treated like you treat others and that is kind; only that shall lead you to true freedom!
This channel is so interesting. I internally think of myself (long before learning of this subject matter) as part Mother Theresa - part Machiavelli. Hmm, a lot of people just see Mother Theresa though, I feel empathic but thoroughly in control of myself. I don't like narcissists but when they come on my radar I enjoy the combat, the mind games, I see the little child in them too though. Usually: I tolerate their behaviour and am nice to them. About once a year: I crush them (to keep them on their toes with me!). I secretly enjoy it.
If you are a super nova you sometimes do not know until you have won every battle.
But the best part is the narcissist doesn’t know either because he always overplays his hand until he has lost every battle.‘unless he hid a hand.
He best hope not! The super empath wins that somewhere down the line
The term supernova refers to an event, like an explosion. It isn't an empath type.
Another thing that I saw but much later down the road, the narc delighted in shifting my character they used it against me and to aid in their smear campaign. The saving grace on a very small level was people who spent time with me kinda saw me and my character so the narc tried hard to continue to destroy me. It was sad and as I look back it hurts that someone would try to do such evil wicked things like what is that about!!!!!! I will never get past this revelation it’s been as deep as learning about Christ almost. It’s very deep and powerful and I will never wrap my brain around it! I get it enough to stay the hell away, I now know my worth and value but it’s still just crazy and strange to me!
Not strange at all when you read the Bible
God speaks clearly about these types
But still hard to wrap your head around
Praise God! Because you are redeemable
Excellent video
Started learning about narcissism, and had to go through an empathic supernova in order to escape my abusive marriage. I’ve been free and “low contact” since August 14, 2021… 8 months now! we have children, I was no contact for 2 months until visitations started and now we communicate through an app. HG’s work was instrumental in my escape and recovery. My ex (upper mid range or type B I believe) only hovered me 1 time, called child services 1 time, and now keeps his distance for the time being. I’m Now going to school to be a teacher and am working at a preschool after being a stay at home mom for 7 years while he isolated us from the world. My narcissistic traits of pride and anger kept me in the fight for many years with him! His facade was soooooo good, it had me fooled for years until I finally saw through it. I fought back strategically and the last 2 months were horrendous. His abuse became unbearable.
From your perspective, if you set a boundary with the narc, and it was in the form of an ultimatum, and since then it had been givin we've had a kid together now who's almost a year old,
Now the narc is going back on their word and and breaking the barrier, everything in me has been building to walking away and plotting the escape because I just can't anymore. Am I right to choose respecting myself and walking away over allowing boundaries to be walked on?
When I encounter a narc, I need to distance myself from them, partly because it is good for me, but also partly because there is a side of me that gets positive delight in tormenting them, and I sometimes worry about what I might do. I call it selective psychopathy, there is an evil, disgusting, yet perversely enjoyable part of my psyche that comes to life when it smells these vampires. Honestly, I am a total people pleaser most of the time, but I find I get "fuel" from actively "hunting" narcs, I enjoy it. The thing is, if you are a person with a basic level of morality you will have tools in your arsenal that the narc cannot see, this gives you a strategic advantage. Use these tools in conjunction with sustained malice towards them, and you will win. I have no idea if I am a super empath, no idea if this would count as an empath supernova. But it never manifests towards normals or empaths, I only eat narcs. Maybe I am a vegan narc? Who knows! Stay strong, and have a good day!
What does the super empath feel when they go in supernova? They usually feel that they r the narcissist
Not really. Certainly some psychopathic traits appear to be on display, those are the flip side of empathy to my mind. Absolute disregard for the feelings of the other, if he / she ever had any. You simply don’t care. I’m not saying you deliberately inflict harm, I’m saying you tell it like it is. No more being there anytime anywhere; more of the, “Get lost. Who are you btw? “ And yes, when you can stand on your own two feet after a few months, you actually sue for what the freak has done. All your wonderful qualities? Your great memory? Being a good secretary and lending money etc…you have traces of everything so no problem showing emails and bank transactions. To his mom, his boss, everyone you just intuitively know he doesn’t want involved.
Actually, feelings deaden,vanish in an instant. It is war. "Bring it on! I have dealt with far better than you." If HG's supposition is correct, and if I fall into this category, this is what has happened to me with more than one, as genetics apparently are in play.
I don’t really know how to describe it. I’ve been driven to that point a couple of times. It’s like all feeling and emotions drain out of you. It’s weird to go from over feeling and over emotional to absolutely nothing. From I love you more than life to you’re dead to me.
I can hear the joy in your voice when you describe the super empath. The challenge...lol
Oh my goodness...The empath has narcissistic traits. I've always thought this but never have I heard another individual say such a thing. Always a little smile in my pain...Never felt destroyed...Almost like I came to play?? Anyways I cracked a smile
Sometimes I really feel awkward about myself. Don't f@ck with me that's all I can say. I'm smiling can't you see ? Always this feeling... Oh so you don't know with who you are playing my friend.... ? 😈😆😎 A battle between the good, the bad and the ugly. A cloak that I'm wearing to shield my boundaries.
Ticking, like a clock at night...tic, toc, tic, toc...
Guillotine.
@@prunelle9051 "We all have narcissistic traits," is becoming a more frequent saw of the psychological crowd. The flaw in this thinking... this conclusion, is that it suggests narcissism is universal base affect while empathy is not. I would suggest, if anything... that the base is empathy,,, and the reason for this is plain in the definition. Moreover, this narcissist's-centric thesis adopts an overly-simplistic view of the human psyche. Freud is the master here,,, not some YT channel & a slew of social media commentary.
Yesss let the MF GAMES BEGIN
@@prunelle9051 Amen!
Everyone has Narc traits some degree of it is healthy and even necessary, as we are learning.
Thankyou HG, I found this very helpful in understanding .
Empath here. This is very interesting and useful. Thank you.
Damn Tudor, thanks for the info, it is very helpful. God help your victims, you don’t pull your punches, that last part was brutal.
Has anyone, who is genuinely a good person, loving caring and has morals that they defend strongly, ever felt like they have a truly evil, destructive, absolute vengeful inner monster ? Once it is released it can destroy everything and everyone with no regard or remorse?? I have always felt like this. And constantly fighting to keep it from being released for fear of the aftermath..
I wld love to say " let's play ", HG but I really don't need the darkness in my life. I want light and joy, not doom and gloom. Thank you so much for your body of work. 💛
like a veil being lifted from my eyes, I see more clearly now. thank you for this.
I have felt bad about my behavior toward narcissistic people in my life when I've hit my limit with them. Now I understand where that behavior was coming from. Wonderful videos.
Great explanation, H.G., super accurate, thank you very much!!!
Yes, I´M A SUPER EMPATH AND I AM PROUD!
Empath will bide their time. Patience is virtue
Oh my God! Yes. I had a covert narcissist(didn't know it) and I fought him blow by blow. After it was over I discovered he had horribly mistreated others ...something he didn't dare to to ME. I met him in his alleys and used his darkness against him. I was his equal in every way. In the end I exploded ... Went mad... surprised him and me.
Damn!
Thank you for educating on this issues & reliving me of the guilt 💚
"I regularly dine on them" I enjoy listening to you
Ooohhhhh YESSSSS.....YOUR COMMENT "HITT"...😬😬😬....YESSS