Tyreek Hill ranked higher than Patrick Mahomes in NFL Top 100 is INSANE | Colin Cowherd NFL
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Colin Cowherd is joined by '3 & Out' host John Middlekauff to react to the latest in the NFL. Colin and John discuss the 2024 NFL Top 100 and if Patrick Mahomes was snubbed, whether Lamar Jackson should be the No. 1 QB, and is Josh Allen too low? Tyreek Hill came in at No. 1 overall, but look at what Tyreek & Mahomes have done without each other.
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In no world does the chiefs “fear” the guy who they have religiously beaten in the biggest games lol
Barely. They’ve had to count on a coin toss and a drop by Diggs. They’ve all gone down to the wire
As a chiefs fan I can say the only game I felt any sort of fear was the bills playoff game last season… and I STRONGLY DISLIKE JOSH ALLEN
Up to this point, I fear Josh Allen more than Lamar Jackson when it comes to big games.
@@getzchaled9847for what ? What big game has he won lmao
@@plugcap2604 I'm just comparing Allen vs Lamar. Not that Allen is all fear provoking, he's had better playoff performances than Lamar is my point. Allen's last 2 games against the Chiefs were close, with a coin flip possibly being the difference in winning/losing his game a few years ago.
Kadarius Toney was NOT drafted by the Chiefs. NY Giants.
This guy hasn't watched josh allen play in like 4 years with the way he's talking ab him. Dude is a career choker, chiefs weren't even close to being scared of them. That's a braindead take
Wow.... so you don't watch the games at all
@@jefforious2000 Allen threw some questionable throws at the end of divisional round.
I see why it says former scout 😂😂
Wait did he say the Bills have owned the Chiefs in the playoffs? 😂 How many times did the Bills get sent home at Arrowhead? Then we went to their house and sent them home…..What fear are we referring to?
The chiefs don’t fear anyone lol 😂
Saying the Chiefs "fear" anyone is absurd. Especially the guy they routinely send home every season. WTF are you talking about!?
You can’t make Kermit the Frog number 1. 🙄. It’ll be handled, when it’s handled. Just keep it up. Incentive is good and Patrick is a big boy.
The Josh Allen being the number 2 qb in the league narrative is built on excuses and what ifs
Wrong. Its a narrative built by those of us who actually WATCH THE GAMES
@@jefforious2000 ok Mr all caps
That is true, the bills are starting to realize they have to build their team around winning WITH Josh Allen not winning BECAUSE of Josh Allen! Moving off of Diggs and pushing the offense more into a running style is where it starts
Any kind of subjective ranking, whether it's players or teams or one year or all-time or whatever, is fun to debate and discuss and wonder how the ranking was done, who voted, etc. It's not a big deal who is in top-10, who is ranked ahead of who, yadda yadda. One thing you can examine: SF has 9 players in the top 100. That's a ton of talent. If a certain player is shown in the top-100, are you happy to have that player on your team? Damn right!
Tyreek hill has been putting up stats with Tua. More than he did with Mahomes so what are they talking about when they talk like Tua can’t get him the ball. Do these guys watch the games ???
Two Superbowls since he left.Go Chiefs.😂😂😂
@@fairuse707 no one is disputing the super bowls , if that’s all he mentioned , I’d be fine but he implied that Tyreek been putting up mediocre stats which is not the case. I can’t argue with the superbowls
Speaking as a chiefs fan, third generation, born and raised in kcmo… @4:33 chiefs don’t fear Josh Allen OR Lamar. Cmon son. Get it together. Terrible chiefs takes tbh.
Ong to say Fear out loud is so stupid. The more he’s beating these guys the more he’s gaining a psychological hold on them. The one guy who may have strike fear on pat and the chiefs is honestly Burrow and the bengals. And these guys need to get it together asap before it’s too late. Once again, Josh might have accomplished the least amongst the top tier QB, but the media tryna babysit him instead of lighting a fire on his ahh. He’s the media’s champ. Lamar has accomplished more than him even by his standards let alone the chiefs and Mahomes
@@stevemarshall3508 hell nah, not even the bungles. I don’t think it’s a team in the league that the chiefs “fear”. The only team that I felt anything close “fear” for as a chiefs fan, was belichick and Brady. Since they’re gone, it hasn’t been a team that I “fear” as a chiefs fan
@@slimischillin7753 nah vice versa for me. I don’t think he ever feared Brady. The first one he was a rookie or his first season. Second one, I have no doubt if Mahomes had that ball first in OT, they would have won. The bengals on the other hand are different bro. Even if the chiefs don’t necessarily fear them, but they don’t fear the chiefs either. Most these guys like I said I think Mahomes is striking fear on them the more they keep losing to them, Burrow and the bengals don’t got no fear. I think Mahomes is literally gonna have to strike them down hard. What set Mahomes apart is his confidence more than anything, Burrow got that same confidence bro. Guys like don’t understand when the odds are against them and that’s some scary ish
They also sought feedback from Patrick Hat-trick when they were thinking about drafting CEH at the end of the first round.
Tyreek goes for the best season with the most yards in NFL history last year.
Collin and this guy - “well ya Tyreek would do better with a different QB with a stronger arm”
Cope.
As far as the reporting I’ve seen, the only WR that Mahomes was vocal for was Rashee Rice.
I don’t think he had any strong vote for Skyy Moore, Mecole Hardman or Worthy. At least based on what’s been reported.
I’m sure he’s been consulted, but the only one that he’s actively vouched for is the one guy that has shown elite potential.
Lama Jackson the ultimate DEI QB 😂
Colin keeps lying about number 1 wideouts. Except for the Patriots every dynasty featured a number 1 wideout the 1930’s Packers had Don Hutson, the 70’s Steelers had Lynn Swan, 80’s Niners had Jerry Rice, the 90’s cowboys had Michael Irving, The Chief have Travis Kelce and started 2 superbowls with Kelce n Tyreek hill. Even the non-dynasty champions recently had Antonio Brown/Mike Evan’s,Cooper Kupp/Odell. Even the Super Bowl losers recently featured Aiyuk/Kittle/Deebo, and Chase/Higgins and AJ Brown,/Smith.
Kelce is not a wideout, you're literally lying in this comment
@@yelsu3358 don’t be obtuse. Kelce is an elite pass catcher. That’s his role on the football field, catching passes is why he is going to the hall of fame and it’s why he’s on the team.
The 1st TD of the year for the Chiefs #42. That about sums it up. When you know you know.
Same Colin that doubted Mahomes and said he was overhyped. Go watch his clips
Josh Allen better than Lamar Jackson is the kind of opinion that explains “former” in front of scout..
Dude lamar plays his worst game of the season every year in the playoffs and they lose
@@sfslax Lamar has 2 MVPs and a higher career passer rating than Allen.
@@sfslaxwhen did Allen win a Superbowl?
He hasnt, hes just had more than 1 half of good postseason football like lamar, and im lower on allen than most people but ive never seen him throw up 7 points in a playoff game lol
Lamar and Josh aren't seeing a super bowl unless they get traded to the NFC.. deal with it
Shocking two non athletes making excuses for josh Allen, wake me up when he wins a big game
Wait are you arguing Lamar is better than Josh?
@@milliworkz7069what metric says he’s not. He’s been to an AFC game, he’s 2x mvp. Apparently, the only accomplishment Josh has ever won is the people’s award
@@stevemarshall3508 Josh has made a AFC championship? I’m a Josh Allen HATER.. the metric is Josh doesn’t disappear in the playoffs like Lamar. Go look at all of Lamar’s worse games in college and pros dudes scared of the big lights
@@milliworkz7069 look bruh! I will clap when my toddler takes his first step and start walking, until then, at best hope he’s a late bloomer. Don’t talk to me abt potential. Lamar got 2 mvps and an AFC championship appearance. That’s way more than Allen could hope for. Lamar is arguably a hall of famer already wtf u talking abt.
In terms of achievements, Herbert is closer to Josh than Josh to Lamar. And Herbert has never won a playoff game. Please tell me I’m wrong. Ain’t nobody hating on Josh, but yall need to stop applauding him for things he hasn’t done. Talking abt FEAR🤦🏾♂️ F outta here with that BS
@@stevemarshall3508 but if you want more than that..
Lamar Jackson career stats are 15,887 pass yards 125-45 TD-INT
Josh Allen career states are 22,703 pass yards 167-75 TD-INT
Rushing:
Lamar Jackson 5,258 yards 29 Rushing TD
Josh Allen : 3611 yards and 53 Rushing TD
This guy is determined to put Josh Allen where he doesn’t belong. He needs to win an MVP or Super Bowl.
The Chiefs fear other QBs and teams the same way I imagine Jordan, Tiger and Tyson feared their opponents. As in, they really don't. The only tangible fear those types have is the fear of losing because they didn't play their best or weren't prepared enough. It has almost nothing to do with the faceless, nameless opponent.
Bro ya gotta stop this josh Allan Lamar take
Josh has 1 pro bowl in 7 years
Please your gonna loose credibility
Lamar is 2x mvp 2x all pro 3x pro bowl
Lamar was hurt for 2 years n still
Lamar been to a afc chip
Josh has not
This why we look at guys that never played like this 🤦♂️
Josh has been to the AFC championship game. I believe the year Mahomes won his first chip
Dumb comment. Josh has indeed been to an AFC champ game. Look at the stats and compare them. Josh comes out on top every single time. It's not Josh's fault that award voters get in line and give the award to an underserving, overrated QB every single year.
HUGEEE Allen hater here and I would gladly take Josh over Lamar Jackson.. honestly not even close to me..
talk about credibility loss? allen has 2 pro bowls and hes been in the league for 6 years. so 2 wrongs there. not that pro bowls matter AT ALL (tyler huntley made the pro bowl, lamar made the pro bowl in 2021 with 16 TDS 13 INTs 7-5 record which is a disgrace)
allen has been to an AFC chip. another wrong, no surprise.
so now that ive corrected the facts for you, let me give you another fact. lamar jackson is absolutely HORRIBLE in the playoffs and its not debatable.
10 pts vs KC (as mvp lol)
3 pts vs BUF
12 pts vs TEN (as mvp lol)
17 pts vs LAC (mostly in garbage time)
in 6 playoff games he has 9 TDS and and 9 TOs. with a 75 rating.
in the regular season he has 154 TDS and 66 TOs. with a 98 rating.
See the difference?
lamar is a regular season merchant, when it counts, he folds like a cheap chair. Josh allen has 5 playoff wins, and when he loses, its usually because his team absolutely melted down (38 and 42 points allowed vs the chiefs in 21 and 22)
lamar also plays behind a historically elite D. 5/6 years they are top 3 in points allowed. in the post season, the most points they allowed was 28 vs the titans, largely due to lamars 3 turnovers.
lamar is mid
Put Lamar with the Bills and Josh with the Ravens.
I don't know if Lamar would be where he is without Harbaugh.
Josh Allen did his magic without great coaches.
Josh Allan has owned the chiefs 🤣🤣🤣
I think he meant in terms of how he plays against the Chiefs defense. Obviously he’s never won against them in the playoffs but he plays them down to the wire and goes toe to toe with Mahomes
98.8 rating, 16:3 TD:INT 300 YPG… Yeah… he has owned them as much as any QB.
@@Y2K2PointOremember, winning is everything....just ask the bills QB and he'll tell you what means more
@@Y2K2PointO0-3 in the playoffs
So when Burrow was getting drafted it was “he should refuse to play for them” and a few years later it’s “he has benefitted from the organization”
Best example of that #1 receiver theory...Favre and Sterling Sharpe. Sharpe went down with that neck issue and Favre developed the next year etc etc
This is exactly why players should have zero say in team building. Crazy.
When are people going to realize that Mahomes is Jordan? These guys remember it if you just look at them wrong and they are going to make you suffer because of it. They poked the bear and now he’s going to rip your heart out.
Josh Allen better than Lamar?!?!
Are the players stupid or something? Any athlete should know...that mental strength is what almost always separates the people at the top. Mahomes has had a historic playoff resume. And Lamar's game is the opposite. He's dropped a level or more in the playoffs. We saw it again last year. Don't look at the stats...go rewatch the Chiefs' game. Dude was terrible.
I absolutely disagree because if Josh Allen the ball shorts in the back of the end zone Buffalo have a chance to win or if he would have hit Diggs crossing the middle the field goal would've been good instead of wide right
Gosh Josh gets so much benefit 💀
This segment is just wrong. The vote was made in December, so the list does make sense. The chiefs were having quite a down year, slipping 3 spots isn't bad. Obviously that didn't turn out to be the case which is why we think it's crazy, but we have hindsight that they did not. Just a waste of a segment
Nah I don’t think anyone should’ve been ranked above Mahomes regardless of how the chiefs looked. Lamar obviously won the MVP but he wasn’t having this insane season, his numbers were pretty mid for a QB mvp season
@@tristingarcia5718arguably the worst MVP season since 2001
@@Keighanmaclean I agree! CMC probably should’ve won it but at this point they just pick QBs
Then explain how Aaron Rodgers made the list
Chiefs drafted Tyreek Hill so they can draft WR
It's voted BY HIS PEERS not front offices 🤦🏾♂️
Why can’t Dak be ranked higher than Burrow or Stafford he’s teams perform consistently better in the regular season we’re giving Stafford n Burrow too much credit for 1 playoff run
Again these are the actual players ranking. Patrick Mahomes is much easier to tackle then Tyreek, Christian or Lamar.
So Aaron Rodgers made the list and he played for like 3 minutes the entire season
no issue with Tyreek at the top. He's worked hard and earned it, even more with everything that's been thrown against him. I even think Lamar is great. just not above Mahomes.
That ranking was disrespectful to Mahomes and i feel they are trying to get in Mahomes head. The Chiefs will 3-Peat.
Hat dude just rambles
It's insane
As a chiefs fan I was happy we was playing the ravens the bills always play us close ravens was good but I don’t trust Lamar yet in the big games
I don't like his take on the recievers....for 1 mahomes didn't say anything about sky moore, and we didn't draft toney. He was just a chance pickups hoping he may get his shit together due to his high talent ceiling. Rice was the only one Mahomes said he liked and possibly wanted....he was VERY good his 1st season. His numbers were better than zay flowers, but doesn't get the recognition like zay for some reason. Mecole Hardman was a panic pick due to tyreeks issue at the beginning of that season....really sky was veach's only horrible pick at Wr so far....
The voting is done in like early NOVEMBER.. not after Superbowl.. let it go Jesus.. If the best QB was always #1 Tom Brady would have been #1 for 20 straight years..hell he was #1 at 45 yo just a few years ago..
Bullshit! Allen isn’t better than Josh Allen. Stupid take.
Josh allen 2x pro bowl and second team all pro lamar 3x pro bowl 2x league mvp 🤔and 2x first team all pro
Dude your good but u loose credibility with the josh allen is better than Lamar talk. Read the room lamar has 2 mvps to josh 0.
Here we go with the Josh Allen excuses.. Lamar is def better then Allen And there's nothing you could say to convince me otherwise..
Stay in you lane? LOLLLLLLLLL Colin always talking about things he knows nothing about. Homeboy got a huuuuuuuge lane. 🤣🤣
Chiefs Country we'll just stack this on top of all the receipts
Josh Allen stop it
wool socks to bed=life changing sleep quality⬜🟣
Can’t do that, too hot rn 🥵
All this does in insure MVPatty will have his best year ever Fools
Dude start talking and reminded me instantly why I avoid his podcast. He’s the reason why Nick Wright always ripping Josh, always tryna put him in a room that he has not walked in yet. If you must structure your sentence with “chief, Patrick Mahomes, fear” than just stfu before it’s too late. Idc what point he was tryna make just stfu
Maybe NFL players are just as sick of Mahomes as the rest of us.
Stop hating 😅
Hey,KC,2023 SUPERBOWL CHAMPS!! Winning Superbowls speaks volumes not top tens or top 100's or any of that voting baloney
You think that's his name Colin? Come on. He was the fastest guy ever at the 40 dash in the combine. He may be a bust or he may be amazing but do your research you know that's his name. And you're going to remember it
Would Patrick Mahomes be who he is without Andy Reid?
Or would he be Josh Allen?
Tyreek is the better player.
The real question is who would Josh be with Andy Reid?
Patrick mahomes was a multi 4k passing season and an 700 yard game in college even before even meeting Andy and nobody think tyreek the better player 1mvp and back to back superbowl when the other left shows that
Mahomes is better at his position than Hill is at WR. If you were to list the all-time best receivers then Hill would struggle to make the top 10 whereas Mahomes currently has 2 QBs ahead of him at best in Brady and Montana. Not only is Mahomes a better player overall, he's far better at his position. Hill is so good that KC got better by trading him. Who was Andy Reid before Mahomes arrived? A nearly man who couldn't get over the line has suddenly joined the conversation for best ever. If you offer every GM in the league either player do you think a single one is choosing Tyreek?
Mahomes didn’t have the numbers this year. 4 was actually a little high.
without refs mahomes is slightly above average at best while hill is good no matter what
That’s a dumb take. How do the refs let him throw for 50 tds and 5k yards? Or how do the refs let Mahomes scramble for 20+ yards in OT of the SB? Or do the refs let Mahomes complete passes left handed? You sound like a hater
Mahomes has been to 6 AFC Championships in 6 years as a starting QB. You don't know what you're talking about
I love hearing these childish and moronic theories about Mahomes success. To put this very simply for you, he's the best QB in the league by a mile and when it comes to winning big games he's done more of that than Lamar, Burrow and Allen combined. Mahomes has 3 rings currently and that's the same amount as all the other starting QBs in the league added together and you think that's down to some conspiracy amongst the officials? You just can't argue with that level of stupid.
You know your a great QB when 11-6 and another division championship is considered a down year.
Jackson is a running back who can throw a football fairly well. He doesn't belong in the same stadium as Mahomes.
Lamar is Patrick Mahomes the guy who plays him says he is Patrick Mahomes. You just sit and watch.
Anyone who say Josh Allen is better than lamar needs to watch more football!! RIDICULOUS COMMENT