Next bandsaw: lower wheel in basement, upper wheel in attic. Cut capacity is whatever the height of your main floor is. A sternly-worded sign should make it childproof.
that almost seems like a good idea. worlds slimmest bandsaw, just the blade. hell, while we're are it why not have the tablesaw blade come through the floor too? imagine a room where all you can see are the blades of the tools lol. like something out of the saw movies
He only knew one command: "make bandsaws". He made more and more bandsaws. He turned scrap wood into bandsaws. He used fresh cut lumber to make bigger and bigger bandsaws. Eventually, everything would become a bandsaw.
@@1320crusier No, a true 1 meter throat using 1.05 meter wheels. Unfortunately there's only 75mm of vertical capacity Either that or build 4 x 8 water jet or laser. Entirely out of wood of course.
@@sdspivey The bigger the wheels the more motor to wheel speed reduction you need. Do you go for a really big pulley on the wheel shaft. Or a two stage Jack shaft. One guy I knew took a 14" generic import and mounted 2 small 4 speeds transmissions in the base. His really low speed came from using the two reverse gear sets. The longer the blades the more they cost. At some point it becomes cheaper to buy 100 ft rolls and weld your own. That's what we did where I used to work. It's also handy for band sawing internal work. Well, Jeremy Fielding has a 48 x 96 plasma/cc router combo. He's built one of Matthias's band saws so maybe he could return the favor. There used to be a show on cable called beyond 2000. They showed a boat kit made from 4 x 8 sheets of plywood for the frame that was water jet cut. The pieces slipped over one another and the the whole thing was fiber glasses over iirc.
Watching you make a new bandsaw may be the most "normal" thing that's happened in 2020. I love my 20" bandsaw, but I might have to make this one too when you've got plans made.
@@billybobjoe198 They have also made lathes like that too. Some even used a young sapling as a crude spring to pull the string back up after pushing a foot pedal down.
@@aminorityofone You best check to see if the wall is weight bearing or not. If it is weight bearing, cutting that notch will cause structural issues. If it is weight bearing, you have to install a proper header higher up the wall. Then you can remove the offending material.
@@scotttovey Have a look at the structure above and around the door. I doubt seriously that it is load bearing... but you could always use the new bandsaw to cut an arched header and make a new hobbit door for it. :)
I think the thing I love most about making machines like this out of wood is the amount of customization you're afforded compared to buying prebuilt from the store. Sure, you can mod some things despite something being store-bought but there's something satisfying about custom builds that allow you to personalize the machine to your tastes.
Got excited at 5:53 when you used a tap in a drill to put threads in wood because that's the same way I do it, but then I realized that I probably learned that technique from this channel in the first place.
yes, on some steel frame bandsaws. Because the welding distorts the frame a bit so they need to be able to adjust. Cast iron saws tend not to have that because the axle mount is machined after casting, so they can get it right.
A man, and his obsession with creating bandsaws. For the last decade I love watching and seeing how he thinks as it always reminded me of a Squirrel and how they problem-solve.
I'm just waiting to see how long it takes for you to decide to build your own industrial sawmill out of people's thrown out furniture.. Truly fascinating to watch you design and build these things, thanks for sharing!
Or peddle powered scroll saw's which were common machine of old carpentry shops. Some areas in the world new ones are still made and sold commercially.
Doable, but not worth the effort, plus, you really want to keep your attention on cutting, not pedaling. Pedals, use a different region of the brain, you're basically asking for trouble then.
I have followed your channel for a few years. When you moved down east you were suffering from tendonitis that stopped you from working. Take it from a retired kinesiologist, the amount of stuff you do "hand held" is inviting that injury back. Clamps and vises!! We want you make up and making videos for years to come. Cheers!!
I suppose there might have been an edit there, but watching you go whole hog with the hand plane and then find it square immediately was pretty awesome.
He keeps saying that he built it so it can go through a doorway and for a smart guy he doesn’t seem to understand that he could have built it taller and as you said you just need to tilt it to get it through!
It can still fit through the door, if you rotate it 90 degrees into "motorcycle" configuration. It's the only bandsaw that comes with a helmet and goggles!
I was looking for this comment. Pretty sure he mentioned not going any bigger with the wheels because he wanted the bandsaw to be able to fit through the door... what happened??? 😂
I'm not a CNC guy and hate CNC videos. But if Matthias ever gets one, OH BOY! It's going to get crazy with him being able to produce multiple creations quickly.
Matthias, You commented in a previous video that every shop really needs at least 2 bandsaws. It might be time to build a 2-in-1 bandsaw! Think about it! -- build a 2-in-1 bandsaw by turning the other bandsaw 180 degrees -- and merging the machines together. Even the frame could be integrated together. A single motor could drive them both by putting a dual pulley system on the output shaft and twisting 1 of the drive belts to change the rotation. Put a thinner high set blade on 1 side (for cutting curves) and a thicker blade on the other side (for re-sawing) and general purpose cutting.
and for just a little bit more work, and an extra motor, you can have two bandsaws, which you can build one at a time and arrange whichever way you want. That would be much better! And no belt shredding from twisting them either.
That dry run makes one wonder how well that saw will work without any motor with a treadle in lieu of it. I wonder if that occurred to anyone else? Thanks for the great content. Keep up the good work. בס״ד
That wooden tension problem is interesting. Would like to see an educational video about this topic. why and how can it happen, what are the risks, how to avoid ot, how to solve it or at least how to work around it.
There are plenty of RUclips videos about tablesaw kickback. When you have a piece of wood with that sort of internal tension, you can definitely feel it as you are cutting the wood. That's what a riving knife is for, it stops the wood pinching the blade due to internal tension. And anti kickback pawls are for if the riving knife doesn't work. But the easy solution, if you feel the wood starting to act weird, is to simply make multiple shallow passes. Cut 1/4" deep, then run it through again at 1/2" deep, then 3/4" deep, etc.
I love all your videos, am very excited for this new bandsaw and really dislike drawn out videos but man this edit was fast! Would have watched at 3/4 speed if I could haha.
Well on my number one bandsaw next this is number five and I only have two need three more😂😂😂😂 Bandsaw looking good take care hope you all had a nice Christmas and happy new year 🥳
Best safety feature I have for my table saw is just a hinged board that hangs in front of the off button to shut it off with my knee. Then if anything goes wrong I don’t have to let go of anything to turn it off.
Now you can put a pair of wheels on the base such that when you tip it backwards, the wheels touch the ground and you can move it around, as though it were on an appliance-moving cart.
For splines I made a big 45 degrees block which I clamp to my (Matthias Wandel) tenon jig. Works a treat and I feel more comfortable than using a sled. I realize I've build nine MW machines! I should have married the guy 🤪
My friend, this is the only time I've ever watched one of your videos and feared for your safety. You should totally massage your wood before you try cutting it
And were here at the NHRA Spring Nationals folks. Matthias, how did you win the A/Altered class? The body is paper. The frame is ash. The front springs are osage orange. The wheels are hickory. The slicks are elm. The headers are replaced with every run, they're pine.
@@Cynyr On the first piece hard to say.... On the second piece definitely! The riving knife (with hood or not) should only be 1/2" apart to the blade, so it should prevent pinching fairly quickly. You can also see the piece climbing on the blade. A protective hood (dust collector?) could also limit that....
@@matthiaswandel Oh dear.... Is this one of your self-made tools? Great respect to that they work so well, but safety-wise I've seen some bad things the past two years on RUclips alone. That kickback there was a close one, too. Maybe next time ain't so lucky? Please, stay safe! 👍 Best wishes, Stefan
Have you considered building or modifying a bandsaw to the style of a Marvel Mark I? The blade is twisted 90 degrees and then back providing infinite width but limited depth
That was a fast video ... I don't care, I watch it again ;-) Question Matthias when I get the plans can I modified the high of the upper wheel? to use a longer blade? Not for more cutting high I think (longer blade = more teeth = longer lifetime bevor sharpening) but may I am wrong.
Next bandsaw: lower wheel in basement, upper wheel in attic. Cut capacity is whatever the height of your main floor is. A sternly-worded sign should make it childproof.
That's awesome.
that almost seems like a good idea. worlds slimmest bandsaw, just the blade. hell, while we're are it why not have the tablesaw blade come through the floor too? imagine a room where all you can see are the blades of the tools lol. like something out of the saw movies
I thoroughly enjoyed "sternly worded."
A mistake they'll only make once. Self correcting problem.
Cut a 2x4 standing on end..
He only knew one command: "make bandsaws". He made more and more bandsaws. He turned scrap wood into bandsaws. He used fresh cut lumber to make bigger and bigger bandsaws. Eventually, everything would become a bandsaw.
He's a band saw maximizer.
In the near future an ever-growing sphere of self replicating bandsaws spreads through the galaxy at near light speed.
He will battle against the paper clip maximizer. Who will win?
Universal Bandsaws
One day he will compare his new bandsaw to Matt Cremona’s log slicer
The day will come when there is no more lumber and he realises that human skeletons makes decent bandsaw frames.
Matthias has a fever...and the only prescription is more bandsaws.
And cowbell.
Well, if fitting through a door is no longer a requirement I guess we'll be looking at a 32" bandsaw sometime in the new year?
go for an even 36 xD
@@1320crusier
No, a true 1 meter throat using 1.05 meter wheels. Unfortunately there's only 75mm of vertical capacity
Either that or build 4 x 8 water jet or laser. Entirely out of wood of course.
Plywood comes 48" wide, why not go for that?
@@sdspivey
The bigger the wheels the more motor to wheel speed reduction you need. Do you go for a really big pulley on the wheel shaft. Or a two stage Jack shaft.
One guy I knew took a 14" generic import and mounted 2 small 4 speeds transmissions in the base. His really low speed came from using the two reverse gear sets.
The longer the blades the more they cost. At some point it becomes cheaper to buy 100 ft rolls and weld your own. That's what we did where I used to work. It's also handy for band sawing internal work. Well, Jeremy Fielding has a 48 x 96 plasma/cc router combo. He's built one of Matthias's band saws so maybe he could return the favor. There used to be a show on cable called beyond 2000. They showed a boat kit made from 4 x 8 sheets of plywood for the frame that was water jet cut. The pieces slipped over one another and the the whole thing was fiber glasses over iirc.
Watching you make a new bandsaw may be the most "normal" thing that's happened in 2020. I love my 20" bandsaw, but I might have to make this one too when you've got plans made.
Try out 21“. You will probably like it.
Where can I buy the plans when they are ready?!?
Yeah I already have a 24" Delta but damn now I want to build another out of wood
been a follower since 2006 buying my first of your gear software installs and i am such a fan of your work both physical and video. thanks
Matthias, leave the hand crank on it and send it to Rex Krueger for his "hand tool woodworking" series...
I imagine they made big scroll saws powered by a foot pedal with a string wrapped around an axle.
@@billybobjoe198 They have also made lathes like that too. Some even used a young sapling as a crude spring to pull the string back up after pushing a foot pedal down.
Perhaps powered by a small Wandel . . . (this shop makes those, too).
@@3maisons ...thats why he's making them bigger - to fit small Wandels inside!
I’m very much looking forward to your plans Matthias and it is great inspiration watching you work. Well done!
I'll never grow tired of watching you build bandsaws.
Good to see I am not the only one who had tools inexplicably jump from my hands.
Great to see the build moving forward.
Can't wait to see the next bandsaw he makes - it is already obvious he has thought of ways to improve on the design is ready for another round
I see a project coming up to open up that door frame...
eh, just cut a notch out of the top to allow for the wheel and crank. /s
@@aminorityofone
You best check to see if the wall is weight bearing or not.
If it is weight bearing, cutting that notch will cause structural issues.
If it is weight bearing, you have to install a proper header higher up the wall.
Then you can remove the offending material.
@@scotttovey i was being sarcastic, hence the /s
If it's load bearing you'll need a bare minimum of 9 pocket screws on the notch corners
@@scotttovey Have a look at the structure above and around the door. I doubt seriously that it is load bearing... but you could always use the new bandsaw to cut an arched header and make a new hobbit door for it. :)
I think the thing I love most about making machines like this out of wood is the amount of customization you're afforded compared to buying prebuilt from the store. Sure, you can mod some things despite something being store-bought but there's something satisfying about custom builds that allow you to personalize the machine to your tastes.
You're the today's practical Norm Abram, but from Canada.
Making your own tools, puts you a head and shoulder above everyone else.
Thanks Matthias. So good to watch your production vids again
Matthias is the best thing to come out of Canada since hockey! 🇨🇦
Did you see Shania Twain in her prime?
@@jarodmorris611 😂🤣
Can't fit through the door? Bandsaw is a feature of the house now.
Real estate agent, " and this is the bandsaw room featuring a ? inch bandsaw".
Or use the band saw to saw a bigger door frame
@@victornpb Not possible. A circ saw or demo saw or even chain saw but not a band saw.
Maybe that is not a house but just the frame for a really large bandsaw.
I think he's gonna add some wheels that will allow him to tilt the bandsaw on an angle and wheel the whole thing through the door way.
A Matthias “whoops” is always a good day :)
Got excited at 5:53 when you used a tap in a drill to put threads in wood because that's the same way I do it, but then I realized that I probably learned that technique from this channel in the first place.
A new Matthias-video - what a welcome surprise between the years.
I love watching your stuff, and think alot about building my own bandsaw. Maybe someday. You make it look like child's play.
Happy new year to you and your family. Thank you for your videos....
I wish you and yours a happy New year, I enjoy your videos and look forward to many more.
That axle-tweaking idea is a fantastic innovation. I had some difficulty lining up the bottom shaft when I built my 20 inch bandsaw.
I thought that was standard on bandsaws no? I have those on my £100 bandsaw
@@korffy10 On the bottom axle?
yes, on some steel frame bandsaws. Because the welding distorts the frame a bit so they need to be able to adjust. Cast iron saws tend not to have that because the axle mount is machined after casting, so they can get it right.
Always a good day when there is a new bandsaw build video
A man, and his obsession with creating bandsaws. For the last decade I love watching and seeing how he thinks as it always reminded me of a Squirrel and how they problem-solve.
I'm just waiting to see how long it takes for you to decide to build your own industrial sawmill out of people's thrown out furniture.. Truly fascinating to watch you design and build these things, thanks for sharing!
It's coming along wonderfully!
the equipment is sophisticated and I want to be like you, success for you
Ok, I really liked it when you strummed the blade.
Could you add a foot peddle, like the old sewing machines as your power?
Or peddle powered scroll saw's which were common machine of old carpentry shops. Some areas in the world new ones are still made and sold commercially.
*Pedal*
@@mwilliamshs pedaNT
Maybe fill the wheels with sand so you get more momentum :)
Doable, but not worth the effort, plus, you really want to keep your attention on cutting, not pedaling. Pedals, use a different region of the brain, you're basically asking for trouble then.
Thanks for building my new bandsaw Matthias, I will make it easy for you and will pick it up at your place.
... a return to classic Matthias form ... excellent!
Thats truning out to be the best band saw awsome job.
Fantastic work, Matthias! Really well done! 😃
Happy new year! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I have followed your channel for a few years. When you moved down east you were suffering from tendonitis that stopped you from working. Take it from a retired kinesiologist, the amount of stuff you do "hand held" is inviting that injury back. Clamps and vises!! We want you make up and making videos for years to come. Cheers!!
The only videos on RUclips where 4 words has been spoken before 1 second has passed 😄
Happy new year for you and your family.. stay healthy👍
Thank you for your always interesting and inspiring video’s
I suppose there might have been an edit there, but watching you go whole hog with the hand plane and then find it square immediately was pretty awesome.
Square or square-ish?
Happy holidays to you and your family, dude.
This young man is a genius and there must be two people smarter or jelous of him . Great work and issue solving .
Just amazing.Wishing happy new year.
🎶🎶🎶
The wheels on the saw go round and round, round and round, round and round
The wheels on the saw go round and round
All through the cut~
Yet when tilted just a wee bit the bandsaw will fit through the door. Great progress!
He keeps saying that he built it so it can go through a doorway and for a smart guy he doesn’t seem to understand that he could have built it taller and as you said you just need to tilt it to get it through!
Just LOVE your videos, make me better bit by bit, thank you.👍❤️
Молодец, не стоит на месте, модернизация иногда сложней нового проекта. Удачи в новых делах и свершениях!
Can't wait to see what Matthias has in store for us in the New Year. Oh wait, it's yet another Bandsaw build! 😂😂👍👍😉😉
I vote its time for a planer or overarm pin router!
I would guess it is something that needs this bandsaw!
Good idea! Happy New Year!
I say: make a secondary door that hinges up above the door. You can wheel out the bandsaw, and keep the original look of the room too!
wait a minute, wasn't the whole purpose of making it "only" 26 inches, that you can fit it through the door?
It can still fit through the door, if you rotate it 90 degrees into "motorcycle" configuration. It's the only bandsaw that comes with a helmet and goggles!
I was looking for this comment. Pretty sure he mentioned not going any bigger with the wheels because he wanted the bandsaw to be able to fit through the door... what happened??? 😂
@@benburoker5192 hé wants it to fit through a *stanfard* door. This door is smaller than standard.
@Anifco67 he has more than one room worth of workshop.
I'm not a CNC guy and hate CNC videos. But if Matthias ever gets one, OH BOY! It's going to get crazy with him being able to produce multiple creations quickly.
cnc is actually often much slower
I have an original Gil-built 18 inch band saw. Mine does have the up graded metal wheels . It works great.
Happy New Year !!
Great build, really enjoying it
Matthias, You commented in a previous video that every shop really needs at least 2 bandsaws.
It might be time to build a 2-in-1 bandsaw!
Think about it! -- build a 2-in-1 bandsaw by turning the other bandsaw 180 degrees -- and merging the machines together.
Even the frame could be integrated together.
A single motor could drive them both by putting a dual pulley system on the output shaft and twisting 1 of the drive belts to change the rotation.
Put a thinner high set blade on 1 side (for cutting curves) and a thicker blade on the other side (for re-sawing) and general purpose cutting.
and for just a little bit more work, and an extra motor, you can have two bandsaws, which you can build one at a time and arrange whichever way you want. That would be much better! And no belt shredding from twisting them either.
The proportions of the new bandsaw frame look funny. It reminds me of Gru from Despicable me.
That dry run makes one wonder how well that saw will work without any motor with a treadle in lieu of it.
I wonder if that occurred to anyone else?
Thanks for the great content.
Keep up the good work.
בס״ד
A simple three legged tipping brace on wheels will get it through the door.
Thanks for sharing, Cheers
I hope you're not de-monetized because I sat through an hour-long ad to support your channel. :)
Can you tell me what ad? I know of no such ad.
I'm convinced you can pretty much make anything with table saw and bandsaw........and occasionally, the panterouter.
Great Build! Always watching for the next video,,, Thanks for sharing with us!!!! w.
Great progress.
Finally new video 😁
Maravilha uma ótima serra no capricho é nois Rancharia SP Brasil.. feliz ano novo prosperidade
That wooden tension problem is interesting. Would like to see an educational video about this topic. why and how can it happen, what are the risks, how to avoid ot, how to solve it or at least how to work around it.
There are plenty of RUclips videos about tablesaw kickback. When you have a piece of wood with that sort of internal tension, you can definitely feel it as you are cutting the wood. That's what a riving knife is for, it stops the wood pinching the blade due to internal tension. And anti kickback pawls are for if the riving knife doesn't work.
But the easy solution, if you feel the wood starting to act weird, is to simply make multiple shallow passes. Cut 1/4" deep, then run it through again at 1/2" deep, then 3/4" deep, etc.
Nice work man!
Looks like its just about done. Time to start designing the 42" bandsaw
To rubberize the wheels of a band saw, you can use the membrane of the hydraulic accumulator of the pumping station
- How many bandsaws do you need?
- Yes
@@seanzs Same as bicycles.
Hilarious and original.
@@Papperlapappmaul So true
I love all your videos, am very excited for this new bandsaw and really dislike drawn out videos but man this edit was fast! Would have watched at 3/4 speed if I could haha.
Can't wait for the plans!
Very enjoyable to whatch, expecially making the upper mount - that seemed so easy (in fact it is not) because it isn't your first bandsaw.
Wooden tool master builder.
Well on my number one bandsaw next this is number five and I only have two need three more😂😂😂😂 Bandsaw looking good take care hope you all had a nice Christmas and happy new year 🥳
Best safety feature I have for my table saw is just a hinged board that hangs in front of the off button to shut it off with my knee. Then if anything goes wrong I don’t have to let go of anything to turn it off.
The King of bandsaw ...
Now you can put a pair of wheels on the base such that when you tip it backwards, the wheels touch the ground and you can move it around, as though it were on an appliance-moving cart.
Put some wheels on the vertical part of that C-frame, cant it over, and roll it out through the door... then make a bigger one... ;-)
For splines I made a big 45 degrees block which I clamp to my (Matthias Wandel) tenon jig. Works a treat and I feel more comfortable than using a sled.
I realize I've build nine MW machines! I should have married the guy 🤪
I'm curious how much strength corner splines actually add - have you ever done a strength test on that?
I would say they almost add 50% more to the strength, but in the case as he did it, three splines? Wow.
enough to make it strong enough.
We've seen Mattias make some fairly scientific joint strength comparisons in the past. On other occasions the jump test is all that is needed 😁
Gussets. One can see the added stiffness and strength by simply looking at gussets. Anyway I can, and have incorporated them many a time.
If I could deal with the random notifications I think your channel is about the only one I'd have them turned on for
My friend, this is the only time I've ever watched one of your videos and feared for your safety. You should totally massage your wood before you try cutting it
And were here at the NHRA Spring Nationals folks. Matthias, how did you win the A/Altered class?
The body is paper. The frame is ash. The front springs are osage orange.
The wheels are hickory. The slicks are elm.
The headers are replaced with every run, they're pine.
To paraphrase “Jaws”, “We’re gonna need a bigger door!”
After he uses it, it's gonna be more like, "We're gonna need a bigger band saw."
One human power
Bandsaws are the MS Excel of the DIY Suite (and note the Excel logo color is Wandel green). Merry Newyear.
Nice project , you estimate the blade tension by listening to the vibration frequency
It is spooky to see the Kickback after all the stories. And makes one wonder, why no riving knife is installed on these tasks....
Safe your guts 😉
idk that a riving knife would help here. It looks like the wood was pinching before it was even past the blade.
the saw doesn't take a riving knife.
@@Cynyr On the first piece hard to say.... On the second piece definitely! The riving knife (with hood or not) should only be 1/2" apart to the blade, so it should prevent pinching fairly quickly.
You can also see the piece climbing on the blade. A protective hood (dust collector?) could also limit that....
@@matthiaswandel Oh dear.... Is this one of your self-made tools? Great respect to that they work so well, but safety-wise I've seen some bad things the past two years on RUclips alone. That kickback there was a close one, too. Maybe next time ain't so lucky?
Please, stay safe! 👍
Best wishes, Stefan
most woodworkers: intricate measurements to approximate the shape I desire
Matthias: 1:1 template will do
1 : 1 template is basicaly manual CNC
He did his intricate stuff in sketch up
Have you considered building or modifying a bandsaw to the style of a Marvel Mark I? The blade is twisted 90 degrees and then back providing infinite width but limited depth
I was waiting for this... Thanks wandel...
That was a fast video ... I don't care, I watch it again ;-) Question Matthias when I get the plans can I modified the high of the upper wheel?
to use a longer blade? Not for more cutting high I think (longer blade = more teeth = longer lifetime bevor sharpening) but may I am wrong.
You stopped a kickback with a stick, not even a jedi dares to do that!
The Bandsaw looks great. You use your Tablesaw without a splitting wedge? Is this not a little bit risky? Sorry for my bad English
Enjoying the explanations, as always. :)
Very good idea
Yes it's so big!
Slaps the roof of the house: *This bad boy can fit so many bandsaws!*
Haha, nice.
Some people fish.
Some people hunt.
This guy builds bandsaws.
Loving this