Table for my 26" bandsaw
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Making the table for the bandsaw. This could have been much simpler if I just used baltic birch plywood, but I went the cheap and complicated route.
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I have faith in the Marble Machine X!!!
It's the journey, not the destination for that one. Somehow, he keeps it interesting.
I believe!
@@PikkaBird We should really have a large poster with the X-files one, but instead of the UFO it's the MMX. :))
@@matthiaswandel Yep. Funny that I discovered your channel, way back, with your marble machines, the adding machine being my favorite :-)
@@matthiaswandel look at Bad obsession motorsports Project Binky, they have so far spend more than seven years and 50+ episodes on putting the running gear from a Celica into a Morris mini and it just keeps getting better
nice work on the table and trunnions!
I don't want to be that guy but I had a glass of wine with dinner: how about pins/dowels to lock into 0°, 22.6°, 31.5°, & 45° positions? You know what I'm say'n.
big saw... that table is probably going to see some serious weight on it!
No! We want to see wooden detents with wooden springs!
That's a good suggestion! Some sort of detent system at least. That would certainly make the table more user friendly. I love watching these builds.
BTW, when's the next Maho video coming out?
I think Matthias's (Matthias'?) style is probably just measuring the angle every time he needs it, since it's a pretty quick operation.
Tony is so fast, I wanted to make the same comment :D
As a young mechanical engineer fresh out of college, watching you designing and building this saw is a lot of fun. Seeing all the little engineering changes and hand fitting on the shop floor shows nicely how this saw is a “prototype” and you haven’t built it before to prove everything was right. Would love to build this saw at some point!
in the carpentry industry we double stick tape thin pieces to a thicker piece with a small edge piece acting as a fence at the back of the thicker piece to prevent kickback. hope this tip might help :)
My trick is less work than the double stick tape, and no tape residue
F you and your tape tunythulhu! Matthias has spoken
@@matthiaswandel It **seems** like less work, but sometimes it's way more efficient in the long run, rather than fiddling around with the other way trying to get it right.
Is it not the goal to find the method that is ideal for oneself in terms of efficiantcy, safety and fun? If someone knows different methods and settles for one how can someone criticize?
@@tlange5091 I agree. Where you have command (and that - in his workshop -Matthias certainly does); it is personal style, what is most fit for you yourself, and efficiency which should drive a process.
I think your work is a major inspiration for Martin from Wintergatan, Sir.
The gear generator program Matthias made years ago was the inspiration for the first Marble Machine - Martin even says so in one of the build videos! And yeah - Martin has mentioned Matthias on several other occasions as well. The inspiration and respect throughout the woodworking YT community is awesome.
Please never stop making content, you are too precious
Martin from Wintergatan drops Matthias's name.
Matthias drops Wintergatan's name.
Fans cheer!
Watching you struggle with your planer for that veneer is making me really grateful for my drum sander. But, we work with what we have.
still faster than using a drum sander!
What I particularly enjoy about about these videos is the way you use the tool you are making, to make the tool itself...
I'm a mechanical engineer from Uruguay. I really enjoy your content!
I never thought I would ever know a better way to do something than Matthias, but I think I do. All he needed to do was use the masking tape and super glue trick to stick the thin stock on the carrier board. Done it many times with my Ryobi planer to make sound boards for instruments. On my planer the rollers engage before the cutters, making it easy to sneak up on it with a series of very light cuts.
The tape has thickness, which will make the thickness of the final result uneven.
I learn so many things watching your builds !
Me: never going to build a bandsaw
Also me: watches every episode of someone else building a bandsaw
lol I thought i was never gonna build a bandsaw and then I built a 14" bandsaw from his plans. you never know!
This is the fifth time I’ve watched him build a bandsaw I’ll never build. I’m not sure why it’s so watchable.
The scene of trunion trim on table saw with bar clamp tightened me up cant lie. Well done.
"... next step is the enclosure." Isn't it already in a house?
That basement room at the very least, if the enclosure made doesn't trundle through the doorway.
Just need to move my tools to a bigger place and I'll make few of your projects and see how well my recreation works. Thank you very much Matthias for your videos! You are one amazing person with more to come! You have a great 2021, but I'll wish you and your family health - the rest you make! Health is the most important! Nothing else will do! If you're teaching this to your kid, make a short video how you and your child work together. I have a very nice memory, when as a child, my dad was remodeling our floors and I was helping - no better feeling then that! Again, Thank You Very Much!
Love your band saw builds, all of them!
I haven’t watch a Mathias video since 2007. When I saw how much he is aged, it made me realize how old I have become.
One other option for those who are considering their own bandsaws (or other machines) for work surfaces is MDF with HPL surfaces.
The MDF is flat and has a significant mass to help deaden vibrations. The HPL provides a durable surface that is easy to clean. Combined they are an excellent choice which is very low cost. You can often get scraps of HPL from cabinet and counter top shops.
The only downside really is the ability to hold fasteners and wide spans - but both are pretty easy to deal with.
This is some of the best content on RUclips.
It's the journey that matters. Plus, i think Martin teaches us about perfectionism. There's an important lesson in his work.
That and what with the whole global issue we're having, it think that's his coping mechanism, he's been much more focused as of the start of the whole deal. But that's just my two cents.
And with that said, man, now that's a bandsaw table. :)
*Matthias? Or is there a Martin somewhere lecturing on mattering journeys?
The reference to Martin is kinda cruel. But true.
well, wasn't meant to be cruel. Somehow, he keeps that build interesting after all these years!
He could have used a bandsaw himself in yesterday’s episode...maybe BandsawX?
It must be very satisfying getting to this point. Very nice!
It's looking better and better, Matthias! Fantastic work! 😃
Looking forward to the next step!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
wont use baltic birch for the table, but those knobs, those need to be the finest of plywoods!
yes, because I can use scraps for that
@@matthiaswandel and it's hard to edge band a knob.....
Matias have you checked your local kitchen countertop fabrication shop for offcuts? They throw out tons of solid surface off cuts and most of them are more than happy give you as much of it as you want. Corian or Staron makes an excellent flat and smooth surface. I made my router table using a 1/2" thick 24x48 piece of Corian. It routes and cuts easily and can be glued to any substrate with epoxy or construction adhesive. You can even make your entire bandsaw out of it. Most fabricator shops also have granite off cuts which are excellent for all kinds of shop uses.
amazing project. the world is a better place with Matthias and his creations in it.
This is such impressive work. Especially in the little things like the glue spreader. So good.
You're really making good progress! It's going to be an awesome bandsaw!
Watching your bandsaw build process is inspiring.
My first bandsaw is getting delivered tomorrow
2:29 the most beautiful glue application i've seen
Thanks for showing the mistakes. It makes the projects seem possible. 🙏
Wait till you make one 😁👍
Now you (badly)need a thickness sander to make your DIY upgraded vaneer plywoods. Does a great job on getting wide thin stock with consistent thickness. Great build on your version of the ultimate bandsaw. Hope you are planning to have a dust extraction port which is always tricky for a bandsaw
Still at it Matthias, way to go! Keep on building and inspiring!
I could watch this whole day long .... greetings from Germany, Matthias
It looks awesome without the enclosure already
7:20 It's not an official Matthias Wandel project video until he's hammering screws.
4:43 was a gangster move great video
Looks like the next project should be a thickness sander.
Oh no. You said it out loud.
4:03 - great tip for preventing tear out. Double stick carpet tape works well to temporarily secure two surfaces.
С большим интересом смотрю твои видео. Очень интересные проекты. Привет из России.
Can’t wait till it’s finished. Looking great.
That has to be the Mother of all home made bandsaws.
The length of a RUclips project is directly proportional to the number of Patreons and Members it has.
maybe I should never finish that bandsaw!
Love your machine builds!
To me the best Channel Woods work
wonderful work and as always, a pleasure to watch you bring it all together.
I thought your previous comments on a collaboration with winter garten made sense. You have a fundamentally different approach. He tends to go for the highly polished product, whereas your builds are much more functional. Although it seems he's learning it can't always be that way.
When he was going all "project management", that felt alien to me. But he's gone back to just trying things, which is what I would have done all along.
Loved the build. lot of fun and very inspiring. Not sure I’ll give it a go any soon but at least I know a have a nice reference for future builds. Cheers
I seem to remember Mathias saying he wasn't going to build a drum sander because he didn't need one. Hmmm.
When did he need it?
You're trying to say a drum sander would be handy for those knobs? Well, yes. So for 30 seconds a drum sander would be useful...
If you really needed that shape desperately, you can chuck up a one inch flapper barrel in a drill.
Really like that you show your mistakes cause we all make em.👍
"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational [bandsaw]."
The modern nation state trundled in on trunnions -
"The French saw the limitations of these massive weapons and focused their efforts on improving their smaller and lighter guns, which used smaller, more manageable projectiles combined with larger amounts of gunpowder. Equipping them with trunnions was key for two reasons: teams of horses could now move these cannons fast enough to keep up with their armies, without having to stop and dismount them from their carriages to achieve the proper range before firing."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunnion#Initial_significance
Wow... Amazing, 👍👍👍 I am CIPTA JATI ABADI channel from Indonesia? Your video is an inspiration for me, I like....👌
Beautiful work Matthias, well worth the effort!
Martin in Wintergatan often chooses the aesthetic over function. Your bugaboo is making use of available materials rather than choosing easy path. Both are delightful approaches, but does make for complication. I think it is still worth it.
That's a real nice result you got in the end, looking forward to seeing the case!
Luthiers use a trick to mount thin stock to sleds using painters tape on both faces and super glued together. Much easier to clean and thinner than double sided tape.
Bandsaw starting to take shape nice roll on next one take care 😀👍
Talking about specialising! "Matthias Wandel - Wooden Band Saw Maker Extraordinaire".
In all seriousness, that is a highly developed and quite sophisticated design now and, as normal, brilliantly executed. Thanks Matthias.
Cant wait for the painting video
At least with you I learned how to look for most of my woods rather than buy them every time. I’ve got to where I go to new housing builds and get boards from there cut off pile.
I was watching you put the table on, and mark it for the blade guide. My mind immediately went, "No way is he going to clear out all the interfering bits with just one try. He's a genius, but if he gets away with doing that on the first shot, he deserves some sort of super genius award." Sure enough, 10 tries. That's about what I was expecting because whenever I have that sort of task to do. It ends up being an extremely time consuming bout of trial and error, with many errors.
I don't remember if you don't like double stick tape. But for running thin boards or veneer that is at least an 1/8th" Put some double stick tape on the piece of plywood so that it catches the end of the veneer. You don't have to run the tape the whole length, just the end will do especially since you want to do both sides. Run the plainer on 1.
THIS is how you make videos.
Thanks Matthias
Excellent work as always 👍
I love your tool builds Matthias!
Re planing thin material. The leading edge can be beveled (e.g., chisel or sander) to a feather edge, then glue that first inch to the sled. The rest of the stock doesn't need to be further secured. After planing, cross cut (with a utility knife if thin enough) just past the glued strip. That frees the bulk of the stock. If doing multiples, put the next one behind the strip that was left behind - that strip needs a bevel and glue too.
That table turned out beautiful
For what it is worth. I used a flat piece of 1 thick melamine with a block on the front side bottom to lock onto the thickness planer table and not let the melamine move. It stays put then just to act as a higher table. I could plane thin wood all day long with no problem. Wax the surface if needed.
Very good job matthias
always thought that way of making cuts for spline seemed the easiest, but it is the first time I've seen someone do it
You also need the blade in the slot to be further back, as you might want bigger blades on the saw, which would just extend in front (and width probably)
I left room for that
@@matthiaswandel I know! You just did‘nt mention that. For me that is most important.
That's some impressive thicknesser operation, Matthias! 11/10, approved, but I don't think I'd try it that way! :-D
Okay, that's a bit much to throw shade on MMX.
...But you make a very good point. Half of the things Wintergatan has done are not something most engineers would consider as an optimal balance between aesthetics vs functionality.
More Matthias, more better. I’m sure we all are on board if you make some extra RUclips money too with more frequent videos. Not that that works out all the time. Your loyal followers are definitely watching everything.
He’s back baby!
I just use a dedicated 36" inch or so melmine shelving sled (w/ a stop so it doesn't get sucked in) for planing veneers
Incredible on many levels.
If you use double sided tape to the support board (just a few short pieces here and there) you can run really thin boards through the plane without problems. I plane boards down to 1 mm this way.
Sweet, using the tool to build the tool!
Damn, I'm here to early to see Wintergatan's post.
Pure class
What if instead of making a fifth bandsaw, you made a thickness sander to make all your veneers!
I don't like thickness sanders. Far too slow. If I had one, I would not have used it here.
Why even use wood at all? A steel plate would have save like a week or so worth of work
@@lecochonmalefique saved a week a work? Are you new here?
@@matthiaswandel fair deal, I’m just used to the industrial sander I have at work and I’m terrified of things blowing up in the planer. Great video again though! I’ve been watching for years and you’ve always got cool tricks up your sleeve!
@@lecochonmalefique Why use a steel plate when you can use firewood?
congratulations it's beautiful
This bandsaw table is better looking and built than the ones people have in their living rooms
love the wintergatan reference..
i feel sunburnt from watching this video :)
Wow it's weird you mentioned the marble machine in this video. I just watched one of his videos yesterday for the first time in years.
Never gets old seeing you make your tools. If you had to guess (or seemingly from what I can tell on your videos, exactly), how much are in for on this build?
This seems to be coming up to $200 range with the hardware and construction lumber. Overall he's saving a lot of costs, could drive those down further with scavenged wood but that drives up labor time so it's a balance you have to decide on.
Matthias, my man, you have to treat yourself to some Baltic birch one of these days!
I have some, but too cheap to use it! It's hard to get here. And I didn't anticipate how much extra work it was to use the cheap plywood
@@matthiaswandel cost of Baltic Birch in Canada has gone through the roof😢
@@matthiaswandel i know you are in the ottawa region but « langevin forest » in montreal has the whole range of baltic plywood. 5ftx5ftx0,5inch = 26$
@@matthiaswandel If I ever win the lottery, I'm buying you a truckload of the best plywood there is.
The way I've seen other people handle too-thin pieces through the planer is masking tape on the back that gets glued to a sacrificial board, then run them both through. Is that something you considered and decided against for some reason?
The tape adds thickness. And it dos nothing to prevent shredding of the material.
grain direction is most important along with sharp knives. i have planed over a hundred boards to eight inch thick without a back board. never knots and always a ascending grain away from the planer. most planers don;t go that low and nobody recommends it. used to do a lot of stack scroll sawing and saved by using pallet wood
Muito bom vó tentar fazer uma dessa aqui na Brasil ficou muito boa sensacional você e um gênio 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Is there any part of your bandsaw builds that you enjoy the most? Conversely, any part that you dread each time?
He said it was making the inserts!
Making the enclosure is always anticlimactic.
I think your next project should be a homemade drum sander to handle that thin veneer stuff.
Excellent and wonderfull job, as usual.
Hello from Texas my friend. Your videos are hard to follow but I love watching them because you make your own saws and inventions. Where are you from ?
3:42 I'd love to see a short second channel video of how you setup your plane for this kind of work! Anyone else?
A vacuum sled might be the thing to put veneers through the planer, but if I had a drum sander I'd just use that.
I love your videos sir.
For anyone trying the "small piece on a big piece through the thickness planer" with a powerful planer: The small piece might apply a high impulse to your groin area.
Mitigate by glueing something to the big piece behind the small piece.
Or buy a drum sander.
Yes I do it quite often using two sided tape.
@@JorgTheElder Try feeding something longer than a couple feet from the side and tell me how that works out for you.