I've been refilling the green tanks for 9 years now and finally picked this thing up this weekend. It takes away everything that was sketchy and makes it at least feel more professional. Never felt real comfortable pulling on the valve to release air on the Coleman tanks, then when it wouldn't seat properly and youd have to flick it with your needle nose... glad those days are done.
I purchased the Fuel keg and a non-Mr. heater fill valve - that proved to be completely ineffective. I'm returning that valve to Amazon today and will receive the branded valve tomorrow. Thank you for the demo video - excellent.
Flame King also makes a refillable tank system. Main differences: 1) you need a hex key to open/close the release valve; 2) the refill kit comes with a stand that holds the 20 lb. tank high enough that you don't need to find an elevated surface to put the 20 lb. tank on; 3) the Flame King system refills a 1 lb. tank in about a minute and ten seconds, about 10-20 seconds faster than the Fuel Keg system; 4) The Flame King system uses bright green cylinders instead of black, not sure if that makes a difference with the sun. We have used the Flame King system for years without any issues. This system is interesting because it doesn't need a hex key to open/close the valve, but I like that the Flame King system uses a stand that holds the 20 lb. tank high enough that you can do the entire thing on the ground (we usually use it at the garage entrance, on the concrete. It is nice to see competition in the arena, however.
I’m invested in the Flame King system. I have like 5 canisters along with the stand and valve. I haven’t purchased 1lb canisters in years. Nice to see some competition out there.
i have the flame king 1lb , and i think it is more secure because of the allen key is needed to open the valve. You wont open the valve accidently. True that it is a pain in ash to refill since you have to have you allen key on hand for refill
The danger of refilling the standard 1 pounders comes about when you refill them during cold temperatures, the colder the more pronounced the problem gets. During colder temps you can fit more propane in the container, even using gravity/ unassisted filling methods. If you store these containers filled in a cold setting and move them to a warm setting the fuel will warm and expand. This expansion can deform the canister to bursting levels. I observed this with canisters filled at 20°F and stored in a location that warmed up in the spring to 50°F.
The temp has NOTHING to do with it being more or less safe. They over filled with more then one pound of propane. Period. They did not weight the process and stop. Over filling the same amount at 80° and leaving in a shed that hits 110° or in direct sun on a 80° day will get the same result. With ONE pound of propane those cylinders do not expand to fill the tank till 130° F. Since the liquid only flows in a refill till the pressure equalise the easiest way to overfill is use a nice warm\hot 20lb tank to a cold 1lb in a cold dry environment. Weight is the only way to know how full a normal 1lb tank is. Also never tamper with the vent.
Those single use 1lb tanks have MUCH thinner walls, they are essentially sheet metal you can bend with your fingers so repeatedly filling them is dangerous. Any rust that forms on the inside creates weak points in the already soft thin material. These have a rust inhibitor on the inside of the tank and a much thicker wall thickness for safty.
I got my Fuel Keg kit from Amazon a few days ago. Crazy simple to fill the Fuel Keg from a larger tank. Will probably buy another Fuel Keg to have 2 on hand for longer camping trips. I never knew this product existed until I saw this video, so thanks for posting!
@@TheMichiganFisherman I picked up the kit + 4 bottles at the same time and glad I did. We do a lot of car camping and I usually go through 3 bottles. My only complaint is they are a little heavier than the Coleman single use and Flameking.
Excellent video. I purchased one of these a a number of canisters a while back and have been very happy with it. I go through quite a few of these canisters during my travel trailer living experience. My Mr Buddy heater gets a lot of use during the winter. Then my camp stove gets a lot of use year round. I find it more practical to use the one pound canisters as they tend to last for a whole week of cooking on the stove. There is no need to lug a twenty pound tank around except during refills. This product has been one of the more awesome purchases I have made.
Just don't store them indoors but that applies to ALL fuel gases so mine live outdoors in their own flam locker (a dead top loading freezer which keeps out moisture).
I don't get it, why not take the twenty (or whatever size you need) pound bottle, or are you saying that a one pound bottle will be enough for your needs ? I mean most of you guys drive out on the ice, yes/no ? so you can carry it easy enough...
I've just been "burping" the fuel keg with the purge valve instead of leaving it open the entire time. Doesn't seem to be any slower. The extra $$$ for the fuel keg + refill adapter is totally worth it for me. I always have trouble with the regular 1lb cylinders leaking after filling them. That plus the heavy gauge material of the fuel keg just instills more confidence when carrying them around.
I cook or heat up my lunch on the road every day, been using a 20 pounder with adapter for years . This will be awesome the bulky 20 pounder can stay at home instead of the back of my truck! I'll be using my trusty single burner on little tank.
I refill the green colemans. If you are going to store them for awhile, I suggest putting a brass cap with a built in rubber gasket. Just in case the valve leaks. You won't lose propane, and you won't be filling the area with highly flammable gas.
I forgot to mention that in the video but I DO use those and I even have them recommended in the description 👍 Every time I make a video, there are always things after the fact that I wish I included in the original video.
the cap should be able to prevent damaging the threads or main valve from contaminants such as moisture or debris entering, but sealing propane vapor pressure in the range of 100-200psi at ~60-110F ? there are propane gas alarm just like smoke or CO, better have them monitoring and a plan to deal with leaks
The reason you don’t refill the green ones is because the metal is very thin and it rusts on the inside not made for multiple uses. Sure you can refill them but it’s not safe.
I've done this with the basic adapter you could buy for about 12 bucks but this is pretty cool system with the bleed off valve and the handle adapter. Plus the Coleman tanks don't have anti rust inhibitor on the inside and so they can rust out and the kegs have much stronger walls with inhibitor coating.
With the Coleman one pounders at $5+, and if you use them a lot, it's a no brainer. I have the Flame King version and it works great. Need the small allen wrench, but really the same theory. I don't blow that much propane when filling. Sputtering to me is "full" enough. That steady stream is just waste. Great video!
@@henrymorgan3982 Thanks, man! And yes…I usually turn it off when sputtering but I wasn’t sure if the camera would pick it up. In the follow up video I did I turn it off while it was sputtering.
@@TheMichiganFisherman Awersome. It is on my Amazon list for sure. Could just grab a 9 dollar coupler and refil, but I have seen so many different ways people fill those things and not sure who is most right. Some use ccales. Some pushing the center pin in. Some pulling off center pin up. Disagreements over taking the air out via that pin you pull up etc. etc.
Thank you for your video as this is a safe way to do this. I bought a 1 gal lp tank and the nose to attach a standard lp tank to devices using these one pound tanks. The on gal tank is small and easy to handle and you don't mess with filling tanks. My one gal tanks last about 4 or 5 coleman green tanks in actual usage.
I can see a place for this product for many folks who use this size of cylinder in greater quantity, but as an LP gas tech for nearly 20 years, I have a few concerns. After the first filling, that is not air coming out of the cylinder when the bleeder valve is opened, it is propane vapor. Does the fuel keg have an OPD or "overfill protection device"? If not I am sure there will be some Dawininan that decides to fill the keg to 100% liquid full. The cylinder needs to only be filled to no more than 80% capacity to allow for liquid expansion when temps climb or when the BLACK cylinder is left out in the sun on a hot July day. Someone certainly did not think about this aspect. Can the bleeder valve be accidentally be opened when not actually filling the cylinder? There is a good reason the typical bleeder valve, or, as it's properly known, the "fixed liquid level gauge" is usually a thumbscrew or in the case of BBQ cylinders, a slotted screw type of valve actuator to avoid unintended opening and gas release. What is the legality of transporting this cylinder after filling? Does it fall under the same regulation as a 20# BBQ cylinder or a 1# disposable? Despite these issues I do feel that there is a place for this sort of thing, both from an economic standpoint, and an environmental one as well.
I really appreciate the in depth comment. You make a ton of great points. I didn’t even think about the black color of the tank. They probably should’ve gone with white. I will say one thing about the bleeder valve that I DID record but then I forgot to put it in the video when I edited it: The bleeder valve will only release vapors when that tiny hole on the top has the pin in it…such as when you’re refilling it. If you open the bleeder valve any other time, no vapors will be released. That was a big concern of mine as well and again, I can’t believe I left that out. I’ll make an updated video on some of the points you made. Thanks, bud.
ruclips.net/video/mDgNyq7K8M0/видео.html I see a dip tube but no float, guess it is not considered an OPD but both refillable tank has thicker walls than disposable to deal with the pressure expansion
The bleed valve CAN be opened accidentally when the can is installed/screwed on an appliance (heater, stove, lamp, etc)...which is a very bad time as there is an open flame present if in use. The needle in the opening allows the channel to flow to the purge valve....any needle fitting will do it.
@@TheMichiganFisherman when you have it screwed into any device, such as a stove or heater, the pin is inserted in the main flow valve of the can opening it. That's how has flows in the 1# cans. Same as refilling time. Try it, see if it vents.
I don't know about being safer, but I was surprised by how many new 1 pound tanks leak, and have found bottles almost empty. ! Been using these for 3-4 years, and I highly recommend them too.
Only open that bleeder valve on the keg occasionally while filling and when you think it is near 1lb full open valve until study stream is observed. You are bleeding off propane gas and air and it is flammable plus you are wasting fuel.
@TheMichiganFisherman I believe we are wasting fuel by leaving it open all the time. It may take longer to fill by only opening keg valve occasionally and near when liquid propane comes out the valve. Anyway that is the way I have been filling my six kegs.
Good Video. Another one showed the walls of the fuel keg are about twice the thickness of the "non-refilable" coleman bottles so that is the reason the Kegs are heavier.
I have had nthiing but problems since I bought mine. I read the reviews and thought this would be great for my shed and workshop. I have not been able to refill any of the six cylinders I bought more than once. I took the refill kit back thinking it might have been defective, since the likelihood that all six cylinders were defective seemed remote. The new kit made no difference. The small valves open and closse fine when not attached, and open fine when attached, but when the handle is pressed and liquid propane supposedly flows, the escaping air stops and basically nothing happens. I called the customer service number and got a lady that knew less about the product than I did. She put me on hold three times. I asked her if I could get a callback from someone more experienced and she put me on hold again. After a ten minute delay, I hung up. Right now I'm about $250 out of pocket (includes new propane tank) and nothing works. I feel as though I have no recourse but to return the product and advise others of "buyer's beware"; things don't always work like the videos show and the instructions say.
Once the price on the tanks themselves come down to about half of what it is now, down into the $8-10 range for each tank, I'll definitely be grabbing one of these!
weigh the 20lb cylinder before and after fill to see how much you actually transfer. First use might be the most transferred if the 1lb comes under vacuum.
Green can: Use the refill adapter to purge the can Weigh can Put in freezer Put big tank in sunny area Attach, invert, open valve, when hiss stops shut off. Remove and weigh JIC. Bet you it'll be just shy a pound net. I've not been able to overfull them. The most I ever got on one hiss run is 1.1lb This is a nice setup but you are venting a whole lot propane/air mix into the atm...so hydrocarbon gas. 45sec+ of farting gas is a bit undesirable
@@TheMichiganFisherman the refill cans are heavier steel though, just hefting them in the store. There's safety in that. Green cans I personally refill 5 times max, then discard due to age. By then they are starting to rust and they are thin. At $20 you'll need to refill the keg bottles over 4 times to just equate buying 4 Coleman from WM at $19...and each refill is about $1 in bulk gas...so they better last 20 plus times to be really economical.
Purge valve only releases vapors while connected to the refueling kit. If you turn the valve any other time, nothing happens. That was a concern of mine as well. I forgot to address it in the video.
might as well buy the small tanks $70 up to $99USD pending where and the size of it. looks just like a regular unit. and can be filled up anyplace that sells propane x and has No transport restrictions. other that the dot about in rt usage, but ALL tanks have such on them.
I seen WM has jacked up the lil green cylinder to 10 bucks a pop here now. 20 lb cylinder is about 23 bucks so it makes sense to at least fill the green ones.
Yeah, it's getting completely insane lately. It's usually about $5.50 around here now for a 1 pounder. I've even seen it over $7 a bottle if you wait until you're at the bait shop. Way too much.
not sure how I feel about that ring.... seems like something that is way to easy to get hung up on or broken. Maybe take that ring off and use a small allen key to run it like a leaver.
I am still legally refilling the 1 jb green tank . Over 30 years of refilling these . I would have to buy around of 40 of these newer refillable tanks to change my system . So , it would cost me over $1,000 to change over to these tanks . I will stick with the green tanks .
If everyone could see the video a man made where he cut open a green tank and a Fuel Keg, they wouldn't mess with refilling the green tanks. The metal on the Fuel Tank was almost TWICE as thick as the green tank. Plus, the rust inside of the unsealed green tank gives me pause for thought...AND you'll never get a green tank full, since theres no bleeder valve to let the air out that's on top of the propane.
I saw that video. It was pretty awesome. He made it after I made this one. To be honest, since I got the Fuel Keg…I haven’t refilled the Colemans. Fuel Keg is just so much quicker and, like you said, safer (even though I’ve NEVER had a problem with the Colemans and don’t know anyone who has). Thanks for watching, man. 👍
You have to make sure the gasket inside the fuel keg doesn't come out when finished filling, sometimes this will happen. It's very small and easy to miss. A cheap digital scale will help in learning if you have a true one pound fill, weigh the keg before and fill then weigh it after a stream of white vapor. Tractor Supply is selling these now, they are a little pricey, 35 for the refill kit and 19 for the kegs.
Is the fuel kag illegal to transport ? 2:26 is that any worst for the environment than the refill stations for are 20lb tanks ? I had one of those cheep niple adapters that did a bad job at filing up. 6:49 Your fire/subscribe graphic made me jump a little.
@@frankenstein3163 sorry to scare you with the smoke green screen thing 😂 They are LEGAL to transport. I’m not sure about the environmental concern you have, though.
a frozen 1 lb bottle will fill to safe level in under 30 sec for a total weight of 2.03lb MAX the big thing is keeping the 1lb bottle horizontal to keep expansion space inside. been doing it this was long time with no waste
@@TheMichiganFisherman i also use the brass caps with rubber seals as the bottles do leak down over time once used from new. the biggest thing is NOT TO GO OVER 2.03lbs TOTAL weight (bottle and liquid) this is what they weight new
I just tried refilling Coleman bottles. It was kind of a hassle but I got them full using the flame king. Then for a week I kept smelling something in the shop. Today I filled some Fuel Keg bottles with their filler. I picked up the Coleman bottles and one was almost empty. Another was no longer fill. , So never will I refill the disposable ones..
@@TheMichiganFisherman I didn't mess with the relief valve when filling them. And I weighed as I was learning. Kind of a hassle to need to weigh then once or twice trying to get them full and not over fill. The Flame King and Fuel Keg are so much simpler to refill, that I'll toss the Coleman bottles when they are empty again.
or just buy the little 5# white propane tank and the adapter hose to use on the 1 lb fittings. About the same price overall. And it's not really much bigger size wise than 4 of the disposables.
Great video. Good call on the ventilated area PSA. Can't imagine what would happen if someone were to breathe too much of that stuff in. Probably not an item for me. My use of 1 pound tanks vs the start up cost for this, doesn't add up for me. But, I see the value for someone who would use it more often.
Oh I know what would happen if you breathe it in. 🤮💀 Yeah, I hate to alienate you on this video but I was mainly targeting the cold weather crew with this one. I guess if you camp a lot it could come in handy, though. Thanks, Joe.
The Propane vapor itself is non toxic, It used to be used as a propellant in aerosol cans, minus the odorant. But it does displace oxygen, one would feel light headed, possibly dizzy. If you ignored these signs, one would suffer form hypoxia and if one did not move to fresh air before passing out, death from suffocation could result. Not real likely in this situation.
Mr Heater's 10 foot proprietary connection hose will not keep the MR heater lit. The pilot light amd the ceramic heating element go out after less than one minute. Their hose is too narrow for the 10' length. The 5 foot hose works fine.
So for the price of the Fuel Keg and refill device, You can buy refill three 20 pound propane tanks. if you have the tanks already. A refilled tanks in my area is 20 dollars.
@@johnd4348 obviously. There is a time and place for 20 pounders. There is a time and place for 1 pounders. Ever go backpacking with a 20 pound tank in your backpack? 😂. Not fun.
Is it possible to refill it using a coleman refilling adapter? I'm asking because here in Brazil the cylinders use a different fitting, and people usually buy the refilling adapter which uses a hose, cut that hose and use an adapter to plug this into a Brazilian cylinder hose. With the rigid type of adapter the Fuel Keg uses, I don't know how to do it
If the small bottle overflow valve were to get loose while in transport, you have a 1lb bottle ejecting propane non stop, that is dangerous, The ring valve seems to easy to have loosen and escape gas inadvertently
Thanks for the thorough review. Ive looked at this unit but it's expensive in Canada. Really its the upfront cost keeping me out of this product. If toure OK with the long term cost you'll save money in the long haul.
Thanks, Dan. I wish I would’ve made this video before I filled up my 6 Coleman ones right after this. Those Coleman ones took forever. I don’t mind paying for the convenience now. 😂
50 is well worth the kit. Its 21.00 here for 3 tanks for 3 lbs.......and costs us 20 ish to fill a 20lb tank. 1lb tanks are a rip off and I need to get this now hehe!! Nice
I watched this because the store I work at just started selling the kegs and fillers and wanted to know what I was talking about. The current combined price is $77. It would cost $0.89 to refill a keg. What's the break-even point? It would take 11 Coleman bottles to equal $77.
With the valve at the top and the vapors coming out, there isn’t a need to weigh the fuel keg like you do with the Coleman. I DEFINITELY weigh the Colemans and I even underfill them a little bit on purpose.
@@TheMichiganFisherman Thank you Sir, for your prompt reply. I see your point. I have one of those little 900w/600w inverter generators that take Coleman size bottles fitted inside the shell. I know how long it will run on a Coleman pound but I would not know the normal refill capacity/run time of the substitute tanks. BTW, I have bought six-packs of Coleman tanks and had a fair weight difference from tank to tank. I would have thought that all six were filled at about the same time?
Can the refill kit be used to fill conventional tanks as well as the fuel keg, or is there some proprietary system to prevent the filling of conventional bottles?
No. The kit will only work on their bottles. Look at the refill connector and you’ll notice two “pins” sticking out…center and the other. Their bottles have these two ports, but the standard green bottles don’t.
@@scottsyoutubeworld1824 May also something to do with liability., but I'm ok with it as filling these bottles is much easier than the disposable green ones (i..e the overflow / vent component wouldnt seat properly on the last ones I tried).
ruclips.net/video/qTIef9Ey76s/видео.html disposable bottle not designed to refill does not have OPD valve, dip tube, weep hole to indicate 80% full, the over pressure valve is simply there to avoid catastrophic over expansion
@@TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet it’s an upfront cost to have CONVENIENCE going forward. I have the $5 valve, too. But this thing is sweet. 90 second tank fills.
When you buy them from the store you transport them full so there’s no law against that or you couldn’t buy them. B you can refill the green ones too we sell an adapter that fits on the tank and adapts to the green ones just bleed the shader valve when empty been doing it for years before this thing came out. Sold at Tractor Supply everywhere. Green tanks are easier than all this fooforah. Screw on the adapter and the tank turn it over and open the valve.
I believe good ol California is going to stop selling the Green one's & besides they dont fill completely. Here in Californication their almost $10 bucks a piece! Ill be getting this setup! Its the cost of 5 Green ones. Good video!
My local Ace started selling the Flame King bottles... I thought they were discontinued, but I was wrong! I refilled Coleman bottles for years when I lived in a house with no heat, but I wouldn't do it now! :)
The gentleman on the below video make some very good points about why one should NOT refill the single use tanks. ruclips.net/video/mDgNyq7K8M0/видео.html Basically, he cuts them and two refillable tanks open and shows the internal difference. The single use tank is made from much thinner metal and lacks the rust prevention coating on the inside.
I haven’t tried it yet. I’ll try it when I empty a Coleman. My guess is NO because of the pin that allows the valve to work on the Fuel Keg. However, if refilling a Coleman is what you want there are similar options that are half the price. 👍
*Question : does your Fuel Keg's wobble ? Because mine do !* I just bought three of these from Walmart and discovered upon returning home that the bottom ring that acts as the stand, which has all the DOT info stamped into it are less than stellar welding. Meaning they wobble standing up right, one egregiously so and the other two not near as much but still not flat... and some applications involve the base being the stand; like single burner attachments or even Mr.Heaters own Little Buddy 3,800 BTU heater... Assembly and Quality Control is garbage and Mr.Heater should be ashamed.
I never thought to check that because I don’t use them like that but I just checked the two that I bought. One wobbles. One doesn’t. That does suck. I’m going to bring that up in a follow up video. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Extremely comparable. Basically the same except the purge valve is opened with an Allen wrench on the Flame King whereas the Fuel Keg has the tool affixed to it.
@@demitaylor8873 good luck carrying that 20 lb tank in your backpack while hiking. There’s a time and place for 1 pounders, bud. I hate carrying a 20 lb tank onto the ice while fishing.
@@jeffmiller1656 because sometimes I don’t want to carry a 20 lb tank. If I’m backpacking I’m not going to carry a 20 pounder. Also, if I’m ice fishing I only need two pounds. I don’t want to haul a 20 pounder in my sled. There’s a time and place for one pounders.
Why? Why? I bought a 5-pound bulk tank with a gauge on Amazon prime for $50, the same price for your setup. I pay $2.50 per gallon to refill at my local gas station. My 5-pounder will last on a four-day camping trip with a whole lot less effort than trying to fill a 1-pound bottle.
Because sometimes you don't want to carry around a 5 pound tank. Like when you're backpacking, or in my case, when I'm already pulling a ton of stuff in my Jet Sled ice fishing. They make the one pounders for a reason, moose. Sometimes you want to travel light. I have 5 pounders and 20 pounders as well.
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I've bought and tried both. The Mr. Heater Fuel Keg system is clearly better.
I've been refilling the green tanks for 9 years now and finally picked this thing up this weekend. It takes away everything that was sketchy and makes it at least feel more professional. Never felt real comfortable pulling on the valve to release air on the Coleman tanks, then when it wouldn't seat properly and youd have to flick it with your needle nose... glad those days are done.
Agreed. Right after I made this video I filled up my 6 Colemans that I have and now I feel spoiled with the Fuel Keg. It’s just so much better.
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If you get caught transporting a refilled disposable the fine is up to $25,000 USD. I had to study about it to get a propane fitter license.
.......You know you can just use a shrader valve removal tool and eliminate all the sketch.😅
I purchased the Fuel keg and a non-Mr. heater fill valve - that proved to be completely ineffective. I'm returning that valve to Amazon today and will receive the branded valve tomorrow. Thank you for the demo video - excellent.
You’re welcome. I ALMOST did the same thing and I’m sorry that happened to you…but luckily Amazon has a great return policy and it’s so easy.
Remember: It has to be the Fuel Keg one. Mr. Heater makes a fill valve for Colemans that will NOT work on the Fuel Keg.
Yes Fuel Keg Refill Kit is what has been ordered. Thank you.
Flame King also makes a refillable tank system. Main differences: 1) you need a hex key to open/close the release valve; 2) the refill kit comes with a stand that holds the 20 lb. tank high enough that you don't need to find an elevated surface to put the 20 lb. tank on; 3) the Flame King system refills a 1 lb. tank in about a minute and ten seconds, about 10-20 seconds faster than the Fuel Keg system; 4) The Flame King system uses bright green cylinders instead of black, not sure if that makes a difference with the sun. We have used the Flame King system for years without any issues. This system is interesting because it doesn't need a hex key to open/close the valve, but I like that the Flame King system uses a stand that holds the 20 lb. tank high enough that you can do the entire thing on the ground (we usually use it at the garage entrance, on the concrete. It is nice to see competition in the arena, however.
That Flame King is still a FANTASTIC option. I don’t have a single negative thing to say about it.
I’m invested in the Flame King system. I have like 5 canisters along with the stand and valve. I haven’t purchased 1lb canisters in years. Nice to see some competition out there.
i have the flame king 1lb , and i think it is more secure because of the allen key is needed to open the valve. You wont open the valve accidently.
True that it is a pain in ash to refill since you have to have you allen key on hand for refill
The flame king can also be filled with the less expensive refill valves as well, where this product requires the fuel keg refill kit.
I have the flame king also. Does anyone know if you can refill the fuel keg tanks with the flame king kit?
The danger of refilling the standard 1 pounders comes about when you refill them during cold temperatures, the colder the more pronounced the problem gets. During colder temps you can fit more propane in the container, even using gravity/ unassisted filling methods. If you store these containers filled in a cold setting and move them to a warm setting the fuel will warm and expand. This expansion can deform the canister to bursting levels. I observed this with canisters filled at 20°F and stored in a location that warmed up in the spring to 50°F.
Completely agree. I really need to make a follow up video to this. Right after I published it I thought of a few things I should have added to it.
this happens because no expansion space is left. always keep the 1lb horizontal and yer good
The temp has NOTHING to do with it being more or less safe. They over filled with more then one pound of propane. Period. They did not weight the process and stop. Over filling the same amount at 80° and leaving in a shed that hits 110° or in direct sun on a 80° day will get the same result. With ONE pound of propane those cylinders do not expand to fill the tank till 130° F. Since the liquid only flows in a refill till the pressure equalise the easiest way to overfill is use a nice warm\hot 20lb tank to a cold 1lb in a cold dry environment. Weight is the only way to know how full a normal 1lb tank is. Also never tamper with the vent.
Those single use 1lb tanks have MUCH thinner walls, they are essentially sheet metal you can bend with your fingers so repeatedly filling them is dangerous. Any rust that forms on the inside creates weak points in the already soft thin material. These have a rust inhibitor on the inside of the tank and a much thicker wall thickness for safty.
So we can assume in this instance, the relief valve on the canister failed?????
I got my Fuel Keg kit from Amazon a few days ago. Crazy simple to fill the Fuel Keg from a larger tank. Will probably buy another Fuel Keg to have 2 on hand for longer camping trips. I never knew this product existed until I saw this video, so thanks for posting!
@@clearedtofire thanks for such a great comment. It feels good to hear that a video I made led to a purchase that you enjoy. 😀👍
I am going to be using this system for the first time this week. Your explanation of why the gloves are needed is noted. Thanks for the tip.
@@frederickvanpelt6393 you’re welcome. I think you’ll like it.
I have seen several videos on this product and your video in my opinion has been the best with clear and concise information. Thank you!
@@lynnhunley7597 thanks for the kind words, Lynn.
I bought this on a whim at Menards and I LOVE this kit. So much better than the hacky kit I originally put together.
I’m glad you like it as much as I do. My only regret is only picking up 2 bottles when I probably should’ve picked up 4. 😂
@@TheMichiganFisherman I picked up the kit + 4 bottles at the same time and glad I did. We do a lot of car camping and I usually go through 3 bottles. My only complaint is they are a little heavier than the Coleman single use and Flameking.
@FoxfireArmory yup. I mentioned that in the video. Definitely heavier.
I got the kit for use with a power outage, you did a great job demonstrating the use.
@@Sourpusscandy thanks for the kind words. Glad it’s working for you.
Excellent video. I purchased one of these a a number of canisters a while back and have been very happy with it. I go through quite a few of these canisters during my travel trailer living experience. My Mr Buddy heater gets a lot of use during the winter. Then my camp stove gets a lot of use year round. I find it more practical to use the one pound canisters as they tend to last for a whole week of cooking on the stove. There is no need to lug a twenty pound tank around except during refills. This product has been one of the more awesome purchases I have made.
@@jamesrobinson1214 thanks for reinforcing how awesome the Fuel Kegs are. I don’t use mine nearly as much as you do but I love mine.
That seems worth it. Not only for long term cost but sometimes it’s tough to find the little 1lb Coleman tanks. People buy them up fast.
Agreed. I think I’m gonna buy two more tanks. I REALLY like them. Even more so after I had to refill my Coleman’s right after this video.
Only tough thing, and I forgot to say this in the video, is finding them. I had to drive to THREE different Menards.
Dang ole people anyways!
I have an adapter to run my Mr. Buddy heater off a 5 lb. or 20 lb. tank. runs a whole lot longer and the adapter is cheaper.
That’s always the best option but sometimes I need to travel light (ice fishing) and that’s where the one pounders are king 👑
I still refill them (the ones from Walmart etc.) all the time best bang for the buck ever hundreds of times and they work flawlessly.
I agree. However I ALWAYS put these brass caps on the Colemans to be safe in case they ever do leak: amzn.to/42JKGwj
they will rust from the moisture in the propane inside ruclips.net/video/mDgNyq7K8M0/видео.html
Just don't store them indoors but that applies to ALL fuel gases so mine live outdoors in their own flam locker (a dead top loading freezer which keeps out moisture).
I don't get it, why not take the twenty (or whatever size you need) pound bottle, or are you saying that a one pound bottle will be enough for your needs ? I mean most of you guys drive out on the ice, yes/no ? so you can carry it easy enough...
@@CrimeVid Space in the kitchen, living room etc... they are useful for many things at different times and take no room really.
Butane is even better.
I've just been "burping" the fuel keg with the purge valve instead of leaving it open the entire time. Doesn't seem to be any slower. The extra $$$ for the fuel keg + refill adapter is totally worth it for me. I always have trouble with the regular 1lb cylinders leaking after filling them. That plus the heavy gauge material of the fuel keg just instills more confidence when carrying them around.
@@TofuInc I never thought of burping it that way. I may try it.
I cook or heat up my lunch on the road every day, been using a 20 pounder with adapter for years . This will be awesome the bulky 20 pounder can stay at home instead of the back of my truck! I'll be using my trusty single burner on little tank.
16 years ago I was a truck driver and I cooked all of my meals on a small Coleman stove. I wish these Fuel Kegs were around back then.
I refill the green colemans. If you are going to store them for awhile, I suggest putting a brass cap with a built in rubber gasket. Just in case the valve leaks. You won't lose propane, and you won't be filling the area with highly flammable gas.
I forgot to mention that in the video but I DO use those and I even have them recommended in the description 👍
Every time I make a video, there are always things after the fact that I wish I included in the original video.
@TheMichiganFisherman I appreciate your video. Thank you sir. I'm curious about the fuel kegs.
the cap should be able to prevent damaging the threads or main valve from contaminants such as moisture or debris entering, but sealing propane vapor pressure in the range of 100-200psi at ~60-110F ?
there are propane gas alarm just like smoke or CO, better have them monitoring and a plan to deal with leaks
The reason you don’t refill the green ones is because the metal is very thin and it rusts on the inside not made for multiple uses. Sure you can refill them but it’s not safe.
After seeing your video, I already have the Flame King System and just ordered another tank from Fuel Keg to try the tank out. Good system.
Flame King is a pretty nice system as well. Very similar, in fact.
I've done this with the basic adapter you could buy for about 12 bucks but this is pretty cool system with the bleed off valve and the handle adapter. Plus the Coleman tanks don't have anti rust inhibitor on the inside and so they can rust out and the kegs have much stronger walls with inhibitor coating.
@@nodayatthebeach yup. I like both ways, this way is just more convenient.
@@TheMichiganFisherman yes, it definitely looks it and it looks safer. Think I'm going to do this investment.
With the Coleman one pounders at $5+, and if you use them a lot, it's a no brainer. I have the Flame King version and it works great. Need the small allen wrench, but really the same theory. I don't blow that much propane when filling. Sputtering to me is "full" enough. That steady stream is just waste. Great video!
@@henrymorgan3982 Thanks, man! And yes…I usually turn it off when sputtering but I wasn’t sure if the camera would pick it up. In the follow up video I did I turn it off while it was sputtering.
Thank you for the video. Wouldve never guessed you could fill these little tanks until 100 percent filled.
Thanks for the comment. I really like mine so far. Refilled both twice during ice fishing. Just the speed alone is worth it.
@@TheMichiganFisherman Awersome. It is on my Amazon list for sure. Could just grab a 9 dollar coupler and refil, but I have seen so many different ways people fill those things and not sure who is most right. Some use ccales. Some pushing the center pin in. Some pulling off center pin up. Disagreements over taking the air out via that pin you pull up etc. etc.
@@cbdynawatch Howie Roll’s video on it it’s the best dummy proof one on RUclips
Thank you for your video as this is a safe way to do this. I bought a 1 gal lp tank and the nose to attach a standard lp tank to devices using these one pound tanks. The on gal tank is small and easy to handle and you don't mess with filling tanks. My one gal tanks last about 4 or 5 coleman green tanks in actual usage.
@@Keith80027 thanks! That’s good to know. 👍
Yes these Fuel Kegs are great. I have a thin walled Coleman burst on me... big fire ball.
That's crazy. Luckily I've never had that happen to me.
@@TheMichiganFisherman Only one did.
The liquid propane expands at the neck and cracked the thin metal at that point.
I can see a place for this product for many folks who use this size of cylinder in greater quantity, but as an LP gas tech for nearly 20 years, I have a few concerns.
After the first filling, that is not air coming out of the cylinder when the bleeder valve is opened, it is propane vapor.
Does the fuel keg have an OPD or "overfill protection device"? If not I am sure there will be some Dawininan that decides to fill the keg to 100% liquid full. The cylinder needs to only be filled to no more than 80% capacity to allow for liquid expansion when temps climb or when the BLACK cylinder is left out in the sun on a hot July day. Someone certainly did not think about this aspect.
Can the bleeder valve be accidentally be opened when not actually filling the cylinder? There is a good reason the typical bleeder valve, or, as it's properly known, the "fixed liquid level gauge" is usually a thumbscrew or in the case of BBQ cylinders, a slotted screw type of valve actuator to avoid unintended opening and gas release.
What is the legality of transporting this cylinder after filling? Does it fall under the same regulation as a 20# BBQ cylinder or a 1# disposable?
Despite these issues I do feel that there is a place for this sort of thing, both from an economic standpoint, and an environmental one as well.
I really appreciate the in depth comment.
You make a ton of great points. I didn’t even think about the black color of the tank. They probably should’ve gone with white.
I will say one thing about the bleeder valve that I DID record but then I forgot to put it in the video when I edited it:
The bleeder valve will only release vapors when that tiny hole on the top has the pin in it…such as when you’re refilling it.
If you open the bleeder valve any other time, no vapors will be released. That was a big concern of mine as well and again, I can’t believe I left that out.
I’ll make an updated video on some of the points you made. Thanks, bud.
ruclips.net/video/mDgNyq7K8M0/видео.html
I see a dip tube but no float, guess it is not considered an OPD but both refillable tank has thicker walls than disposable to deal with the pressure expansion
The bleed valve CAN be opened accidentally when the can is installed/screwed on an appliance (heater, stove, lamp, etc)...which is a very bad time as there is an open flame present if in use.
The needle in the opening allows the channel to flow to the purge valve....any needle fitting will do it.
@@STho205 this is inaccurate. You can turn the valve, yes, but vapors will NOT come out since there is no pin opening the valve from the inside.
@@TheMichiganFisherman when you have it screwed into any device, such as a stove or heater, the pin is inserted in the main flow valve of the can opening it. That's how has flows in the 1# cans. Same as refilling time.
Try it, see if it vents.
**Note** If you are going to refill the Coleman tanks, be SAFE and use THESE brass caps after refilling them. They're CHEAP: amzn.to/42JKGwj
I don't know about being safer, but I was surprised by how many new 1 pound tanks leak, and have found bottles almost empty. ! Been using these for 3-4 years, and I highly recommend them too.
Looking forward to your video on refilling single-use propane tanks.
I’ll try to get on it right after vacation 👍🌴
Excellent video. Going to pick one up next time I am at Menards.
Thanks. I think you’ll like them. I’m probably going to pick up two more.
We use propane forklifts at work. This seems quite similar to the process of refilling those tanks
I was unaware they used a similar system for those forklifts. Thanks for the knowledge. I’m gonna look it up.
Only open that bleeder valve on the keg occasionally while filling and when you think it is near 1lb full open valve until study stream is observed. You are bleeding off propane gas and air and it is flammable plus you are wasting fuel.
@@GaryApgar-s3k good to know. Next time I’ll time it and open it near the time I would expect it to be full. 👍
@TheMichiganFisherman I believe we are wasting fuel by leaving it open all the time. It may take longer to fill by only opening keg valve occasionally and near when liquid propane comes out the valve. Anyway that is the way I have been filling my six kegs.
Good Video. Another one showed the walls of the fuel keg are about twice the thickness of the "non-refilable" coleman bottles so that is the reason the Kegs are heavier.
@@chrisw9885 yup. I talked about that and I even used a small slip of that video in my follow-up video.
I have had nthiing but problems since I bought mine. I read the reviews and thought this would be great for my shed and workshop. I have not been able to refill any of the six cylinders I bought more than once. I took the refill kit back thinking it might have been defective, since the likelihood that all six cylinders were defective seemed remote. The new kit made no difference. The small valves open and closse fine when not attached, and open fine when attached, but when the handle is pressed and liquid propane supposedly flows, the escaping air stops and basically nothing happens. I called the customer service number and got a lady that knew less about the product than I did. She put me on hold three times. I asked her if I could get a callback from someone more experienced and she put me on hold again. After a ten minute delay, I hung up. Right now I'm about $250 out of pocket (includes new propane tank) and nothing works. I feel as though I have no recourse but to return the product and advise others of "buyer's beware"; things don't always work like the videos show and the instructions say.
@@kennethsuggs4259 that’s awful. I can’t believe it as I’ve had nothing but success with mine.
I’m sorry that happened to you.
Oh BS. There's always some person coming trolling. Everyone I know loves them. You're full of shit.
I use the Flame King version, and at the rate my kids use them this is a value plus item.
@@jhill4874 I’m glad you love your version as well. Thanks, bud.
Yes watch the plastic sleeve and gasket it will come out and stick on the Steam of the refilling tool. Good show
Appreciate the heads up, man. Thank you.
Once the price on the tanks themselves come down to about half of what it is now, down into the $8-10 range for each tank, I'll definitely be grabbing one of these!
Agreed. Prices kind of shot up there due to the laws in California.
Yes friend very good video. We do not use heater Mr in Sri Lanka but we use heat to cook sometimes. Mantap
Get a Mr Heater immediately.
That's pretty slick unit!! I'll have to try that out for sure!
Can’t get them on Amazon. Only place I know that sells them is Menards.
Nice straightforward review. Thanks!
I appreciate the kind words, thank you.
weigh the 20lb cylinder before and after fill to see how much you actually transfer. First use might be the most transferred if the 1lb comes under vacuum.
Sometimes I weigh the one pounder. Never thought to weigh the 20. I’ll try that. 👍
Unnecessary
Grill tank. Hose adapter and filter. Done
@@Mike-gu7fb try putting that in your backpack while hiking up a trail.
There’s a time and place for one pound tanks, bud 👍
I love kegs. I have 4 and during the flood in nc these things were a Gid send. You can't even get a 1 lb propane tank at Walmart shelve are bare
@@CatHound I’m so sorry for any losses you took in the flood. Thanks for sharing how these have helped in such a difficult time.
@@TheMichiganFisherman I didn't get flooded but I've got 12 trees down on my property and didn't have power for 8 days
@@CatHound gotcha. Glass half full situation for sure.
Green can:
Use the refill adapter to purge the can
Weigh can
Put in freezer
Put big tank in sunny area
Attach, invert, open valve, when hiss stops shut off.
Remove and weigh JIC. Bet you it'll be just shy a pound net.
I've not been able to overfull them. The most I ever got on one hiss run is 1.1lb
This is a nice setup but you are venting a whole lot propane/air mix into the atm...so hydrocarbon gas. 45sec+ of farting gas is a bit undesirable
@@STho205 I’ll try it using your method next time 👍
@@TheMichiganFisherman the refill cans are heavier steel though, just hefting them in the store. There's safety in that.
Green cans I personally refill 5 times max, then discard due to age. By then they are starting to rust and they are thin. At $20 you'll need to refill the keg bottles over 4 times to just equate buying 4 Coleman from WM at $19...and each refill is about $1 in bulk gas...so they better last 20 plus times to be really economical.
I bought a 4 pack of the Flame King version. 1 of 4 is bad. I've been burned worse. Ill give these a shot
I’ve refilled my two a couple times each now. Time will tell but I love mine so far.
Some Dolt going to use this in a tent or ice hut and bump the purge valve and go boom! No more Uncle Eddie
Purge valve only releases vapors while connected to the refueling kit.
If you turn the valve any other time, nothing happens.
That was a concern of mine as well. I forgot to address it in the video.
I was wondering about that. Thank you
To small green tank fillers at home, don't fill those too many times. They rust from the inside over time, and aren't very thick.
Good to know.
might as well buy the small tanks $70 up to $99USD pending where and the size of it.
looks just like a regular unit. and can be filled up anyplace that sells propane x
and has No transport restrictions.
other that the dot about in rt usage, but ALL tanks have such on them.
Might be a good idea.
I seen WM has jacked up the lil green cylinder to 10 bucks a pop here now.
20 lb cylinder is about 23 bucks so it makes sense to at least fill the green ones.
Yeah, it's getting completely insane lately. It's usually about $5.50 around here now for a 1 pounder.
I've even seen it over $7 a bottle if you wait until you're at the bait shop.
Way too much.
Wow
..the green Colemans were 2/$8 just a few years ago.
Totally worth it if it functions as described
Cheers 🍻....
@@thumperkreck Thanks, bud. They’re great. I just bought two more (4 total)
not sure how I feel about that ring.... seems like something that is way to easy to get hung up on or broken. Maybe take that ring off and use a small allen key to run it like a leaver.
If that’s the case, just stick with Flame King. Very similar except they use EXACTLY what you recommended: An Allen Key. 👍
Now that California has passed a ban on non-refillable propane bottles, like the Coleman , these refill kits are going to be a must.
@@3henry214 I completely agree with you. They’ve already jumped up in price about $4 since I bought them earlier this year. Only going to go up.
I am still legally refilling the 1 jb green tank . Over 30 years of refilling these .
I would have to buy around of 40 of these newer refillable tanks to change my system .
So , it would cost me over $1,000 to change over to these tanks . I will stick with the green tanks .
Heck yeah, I don't blame you. 👍
If I can ever get a second of free time, I'm going to make a video about refilling those green ones.
If everyone could see the video a man made where he cut open a green tank and a Fuel Keg, they wouldn't mess with refilling the green tanks. The metal on the Fuel Tank was almost TWICE as thick as the green tank. Plus, the rust inside of the unsealed green tank gives me pause for thought...AND you'll never get a green tank full, since theres no bleeder valve to let the air out that's on top of the propane.
I saw that video. It was pretty awesome. He made it after I made this one.
To be honest, since I got the Fuel Keg…I haven’t refilled the Colemans. Fuel Keg is just so much quicker and, like you said, safer (even though I’ve NEVER had a problem with the Colemans and don’t know anyone who has).
Thanks for watching, man. 👍
Can you use the same adapter you use on the Coleman tanks to fill the FUEL KEG?
@@robrowe3181 no. Unfortunately, you can’t.
When I tried my fuel keg refill kit for the 1st time the clear sleeve from the tank and a rubber o ring came off. How do you reassemble those parts?
You have to make sure the gasket inside the fuel keg doesn't come out when finished filling, sometimes this will happen. It's very small and easy to miss. A cheap digital scale will help in learning if you have a true one pound fill, weigh the keg before and fill then weigh it after a stream of white vapor. Tractor Supply is selling these now, they are a little pricey, 35 for the refill kit and 19 for the kegs.
I didn’t know that. I appreciate the info. I think I’m going to make a follow up video because apparently I missed a few things.
Is the fuel kag illegal to transport ? 2:26 is that any worst for the environment than the refill stations for are 20lb tanks ? I had one of those cheep niple adapters that did a bad job at filing up. 6:49 Your fire/subscribe graphic made me jump a little.
@@frankenstein3163 sorry to scare you with the smoke green screen thing 😂
They are LEGAL to transport.
I’m not sure about the environmental concern you have, though.
@@TheMichiganFisherman its ok I was just having an off day.
You can fill these with generic fill kits, but you can only add 12oz without bleeding the tank. Still works, but not optimal.
Ah... Thanks, I didn't know.
This will be a great option for when NYS outlaws the sale of the 1lb disposable tanks.
Absolutely. I didn’t even know that was a possibility.
a frozen 1 lb bottle will fill to safe level in under 30 sec for a total weight of 2.03lb MAX the big thing is keeping the 1lb bottle horizontal to keep expansion space inside. been doing it this was long time with no waste
I’m going to have to try that.
@@TheMichiganFisherman i also use the brass caps with rubber seals as the bottles do leak down over time once used from new. the biggest thing is NOT TO GO OVER 2.03lbs TOTAL weight (bottle and liquid) this is what they weight new
I just tried refilling Coleman bottles. It was kind of a hassle but I got them full using the flame king. Then for a week I kept smelling something in the shop. Today I filled some Fuel Keg bottles with their filler. I picked up the Coleman bottles and one was almost empty. Another was no longer fill. , So never will I refill the disposable ones..
@@AreWeThereYet-2025 wow. That’s crazy. I’ve never had that happen but now I have to check mine.
@@TheMichiganFisherman I didn't mess with the relief valve when filling them. And I weighed as I was learning. Kind of a hassle to need to weigh then once or twice trying to get them full and not over fill. The Flame King and Fuel Keg are so much simpler to refill, that I'll toss the Coleman bottles when they are empty again.
or just buy the little 5# white propane tank and the adapter hose to use on the 1 lb fittings. About the same price overall. And it's not really much bigger size wise than 4 of the disposables.
I like to travel very light while ice fishing or backpacking 👍
Great video. Good call on the ventilated area PSA. Can't imagine what would happen if someone were to breathe too much of that stuff in. Probably not an item for me. My use of 1 pound tanks vs the start up cost for this, doesn't add up for me. But, I see the value for someone who would use it more often.
Oh I know what would happen if you breathe it in. 🤮💀
Yeah, I hate to alienate you on this video but I was mainly targeting the cold weather crew with this one.
I guess if you camp a lot it could come in handy, though.
Thanks, Joe.
@@TheMichiganFisherman Cold weather crew?! Dude, it got down to 54 degrees here last week. I almost died! 🤣
The Propane vapor itself is non toxic, It used to be used as a propellant in aerosol cans, minus the odorant. But it does displace oxygen, one would feel light headed, possibly dizzy. If you ignored these signs, one would suffer form hypoxia and if one did not move to fresh air before passing out, death from suffocation could result. Not real likely in this situation.
i heard that siren. half expected the gun to run away very fast.
😂👍
Mr Heater's 10 foot proprietary connection hose will not keep the MR heater lit. The pilot light amd the ceramic heating element go out after less than one minute. Their hose is too narrow for the 10' length. The 5 foot hose works fine.
Good to know, Thanks!
So for the price of the Fuel Keg and refill device, You can buy refill three 20 pound propane tanks. if you have the tanks already. A refilled tanks in my area is 20 dollars.
@@johnd4348 obviously. There is a time and place for 20 pounders. There is a time and place for 1 pounders.
Ever go backpacking with a 20 pound tank in your backpack? 😂. Not fun.
Does the Fuel Keg ‘key valve’ get in the way of any devices that would connect to the cylinder?
Appears to be very close to the cap threads.
@@Majeskty that’s a valid concern. So far, though, I haven’t had an issue with any of the devices I currently use.
what do I do with my old propane tank the green ones can I just toss them in the garbage don't know what to do with them
Do NOT toss them in the garbage. Try to find a local recycling center or hardware store that can recycle them for you.
Is it possible to refill it using a coleman refilling adapter? I'm asking because here in Brazil the cylinders use a different fitting, and people usually buy the refilling adapter which uses a hose, cut that hose and use an adapter to plug this into a Brazilian cylinder hose. With the rigid type of adapter the Fuel Keg uses, I don't know how to do it
You will NOT be able to use the Coleman adapter. The Fuel Keg canister has a valve and the Fuel Keg Refill kit has a pin that fits into that valve.
That's sad! Thank you for the answer! I need to find an adapter which has a hose, then.
If the small bottle overflow valve were to get loose while in transport, you have a 1lb bottle ejecting propane non stop, that is dangerous, The ring valve seems to easy to have loosen and escape gas inadvertently
@@davee8113 not at all. It will only eject propane when connected to the refill kit.
Watch my follow up video I made to this. It explains that. 👍
@@davee8113 watch the follow up video with the explanation here. ruclips.net/video/1iczB8hND_0/видео.htmlsi=ci1E-6ylibm_dkGg
Thanks for the thorough review. Ive looked at this unit but it's expensive in Canada. Really its the upfront cost keeping me out of this product. If toure OK with the long term cost you'll save money in the long haul.
Thanks, Dan.
I wish I would’ve made this video before I filled up my 6 Coleman ones right after this.
Those Coleman ones took forever. I don’t mind paying for the convenience now. 😂
How thick is the metal on a Coleman?
50 is well worth the kit. Its 21.00 here for 3 tanks for 3 lbs.......and costs us 20 ish to fill a 20lb tank. 1lb tanks are a rip off and I need to get this now hehe!! Nice
Yeah, it’s pretty awesome. Takes me like AT LEAST 5 minutes to fill those Colemans.
Fuel Keg 90 seconds. It’s awesome. Highly recommend it.
Can the refill kit be used on the Coleman tanks?
Just saw this. Probably not because of the pin/valve but I'll check and let you know.
I watched this because the store I work at just started selling the kegs and fillers and wanted to know what I was talking about. The current combined price is $77. It would cost $0.89 to refill a keg. What's the break-even point? It would take 11 Coleman bottles to equal $77.
@@04658IFH I didn’t even think of it as a break even point. I just think of it as a “paying for convenience” point.
OK, just tune in he said steady stream of propane, coming out of there that’s full man!😮
I did it for the camera in case it didn’t pick it up good. Uhhh….it sure did. 😂👍
I feel as of a 20lb cylinder and an adapter to tue heater is just the better option.
Man. I need to do another video where I explain that this is for traveling LIGHT.
Like backpacking or ice fishing.
Can they refill these at local country/farm stores like they do the 20lb tanks?
Not unless they have the adapter. If I owned a shop like that I'd definitely have one for my customers if they demanded it.
Thanks for the info.
You’re welcome! 👍
It would be nice if they made a slightly bigger tank. Even a 1.5 pound
Agreed. When I'm ice fishing I go through a 1 pounder every time but never go through 2 pounds total.
Are you saying a normal refill hose would not work on this tank?
That’s correct. Won’t work.
I’m pretty sure you can turn on the propane before you turn over the tank. A lot easier
@@leonardgenovese7726 you could. I’m just literally doing it the EXACT way that Fuel Keg recommends in their manual to be consistent with that 👍
how long until I have to get a FuelKeg tested, or throw it out?
Single use bottles are now banned in California.
I checked the instructions and they don’t mention anything that answers your question. Sorry, I tried.
I just use a hose adapter and a BBQ jug. Little cylinders are annoyingly small.
I hear you, but sometimes you need to travel light. When I go I’ve fishing, I always travel light.
Without weighing it before and after we do not know how much can be filled.
With the valve at the top and the vapors coming out, there isn’t a need to weigh the fuel keg like you do with the Coleman.
I DEFINITELY weigh the Colemans and I even underfill them a little bit on purpose.
@@TheMichiganFisherman Thank you Sir, for your prompt reply. I see your point.
I have one of those little 900w/600w inverter generators that take Coleman size bottles fitted inside the shell. I know how long it will run on a Coleman pound but I would not know the normal refill capacity/run time of the substitute tanks.
BTW, I have bought six-packs of Coleman tanks and had a fair weight difference from tank to tank. I would have thought that all six were filled at about the same time?
Can the refill kit be used to fill conventional tanks as well as the fuel keg, or is there some proprietary system to prevent the filling of conventional bottles?
I’ve never tried it. As soon as I drain a Coleman tank a little bit I’ll tell you.
No. The kit will only work on their bottles. Look at the refill connector and you’ll notice two “pins” sticking out…center and the other. Their bottles have these two ports, but the standard green bottles don’t.
@@j.peterson210 Thanks for the answer. I figured that the connections would be proprietary in some way. Everyone does that.
@@scottsyoutubeworld1824 May also something to do with liability., but I'm ok with it as filling these bottles is much easier than the disposable green ones (i..e the overflow / vent component wouldnt seat properly on the last ones I tried).
ruclips.net/video/qTIef9Ey76s/видео.html
disposable bottle not designed to refill does not have OPD valve, dip tube, weep hole to indicate 80% full, the over pressure valve is simply there to avoid catastrophic over expansion
I have seen those kicking in social media, i really love the idea!! I would pay the $50
The more I’ve used them the more I like them. Thanks.
50 bucks is what I pay to fill 2, 20 pound tanks, wtf. I bought a $5 small valve that works great with empty 1 pounders.
@@TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet it’s an upfront cost to have CONVENIENCE going forward.
I have the $5 valve, too. But this thing is sweet. 90 second tank fills.
When you buy them from the store you transport them full so there’s no law against that or you couldn’t buy them. B you can refill the green ones too we sell an adapter that fits on the tank and adapts to the green ones just bleed the shader valve when empty been doing it for years before this thing came out. Sold at Tractor Supply everywhere. Green tanks are easier than all this fooforah. Screw on the adapter and the tank turn it over and open the valve.
I have the adapter for the green ones. I like it.
But I’m telling you…the Fuel Keg is WAY better and ten times faster.
I believe good ol California is going to stop selling the Green one's & besides they dont fill completely.
Here in Californication their almost $10 bucks a piece! Ill be getting this setup! Its the cost of 5 Green ones. Good video!
Thanks, man! Everything in Cali is so darn expensive. No way I’d be paying $10 a pop 😂👍
My local Ace started selling the Flame King bottles... I thought they were discontinued, but I was wrong!
I refilled Coleman bottles for years when I lived in a house with no heat, but I wouldn't do it now! :)
they were once discontinued after a recall a number of years back, search "flame king 1lb recall notice" for details
So if you accidentally turn that air release do you lose all your propane?
@@Robert-cd5zr no, not at all.
Check out this follow up video here: ruclips.net/video/1iczB8hND_0/видео.htmlsi=343BsxR_jwSF-Bt5
@@TheMichiganFisherman Thank you!
The gentleman on the below video make some very good points about why one should NOT refill the single use tanks. ruclips.net/video/mDgNyq7K8M0/видео.html Basically, he cuts them and two refillable tanks open and shows the internal difference. The single use tank is made from much thinner metal and lacks the rust prevention coating on the inside.
I’ve actually seen that video this week when RUclips recommended it to me. I had never known that.
Can you fill the coleman tanks with this filler set up
?
I haven’t tried it yet. I’ll try it when I empty a Coleman.
My guess is NO because of the pin that allows the valve to work on the Fuel Keg.
However, if refilling a Coleman is what you want there are similar options that are half the price. 👍
for $ kinda worth it, if you are uncomfortable with using the "disposable ones"
I agree about the money. 👍
The more I use it, the more I like the CONVENIENCE of it more than anything else.
*Question : does your Fuel Keg's wobble ? Because mine do !*
I just bought three of these from Walmart and discovered upon returning home that the bottom ring that acts as the stand, which has all the DOT info stamped into it are less than stellar welding. Meaning they wobble standing up right, one egregiously so and the other two not near as much but still not flat... and some applications involve the base being the stand; like single burner attachments or even Mr.Heaters own Little Buddy 3,800 BTU heater...
Assembly and Quality Control is garbage and Mr.Heater should be ashamed.
I never thought to check that because I don’t use them like that but I just checked the two that I bought.
One wobbles.
One doesn’t.
That does suck. I’m going to bring that up in a follow up video. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
how this 1lb model compared to the flame king 1lb erefillable ?
Extremely comparable. Basically the same except the purge valve is opened with an Allen wrench on the Flame King whereas the Fuel Keg has the tool affixed to it.
Just get the connection to connect the 20lb to the item being used..don't waste the money folks..
@@demitaylor8873 good luck carrying that 20 lb tank in your backpack while hiking.
There’s a time and place for 1 pounders, bud. I hate carrying a 20 lb tank onto the ice while fishing.
Why not just buy a connection hose and use the 20lb tank!? It's way easier than hauling a bunch of 1lb tanks around
@@jeffmiller1656 because sometimes I don’t want to carry a 20 lb tank.
If I’m backpacking I’m not going to carry a 20 pounder. Also, if I’m ice fishing I only need two pounds. I don’t want to haul a 20 pounder in my sled.
There’s a time and place for one pounders.
Id rather just put the adapter hose on my 20 pounder and not have to worry about filling it for quite a while. lasts forever on my buddy heater.
That’s definitely a good option but when I’m ice fishing I hate carrying all of that extra weight. 👍
Why? Why? I bought a 5-pound bulk tank with a gauge on Amazon prime for $50, the same price for your setup. I pay $2.50 per gallon to refill at my local gas station. My 5-pounder will last on a four-day camping trip with a whole lot less effort than trying to fill a 1-pound bottle.
Because sometimes you don't want to carry around a 5 pound tank.
Like when you're backpacking, or in my case, when I'm already pulling a ton of stuff in my Jet Sled ice fishing.
They make the one pounders for a reason, moose. Sometimes you want to travel light.
I have 5 pounders and 20 pounders as well.
If it prevents you from getting fined and isnt expensive and has a dependable long term reuse life..then id say yes its worth it.
@@FunkyDillPickle I agree. So far I’ve had no issues with mine. I’m really going to be putting it through a lot of cycles soon.
So on another subject. Do you think us michiganders will actually get some ice this season? I still have dust from last season on my shanty.
Very Cool! 😎
Thanks, bud.
Thank you👍👍👍😎
You’re welcome, Ron 👍
Thanks!
You’re welcome.
Question what happen if you don't release