Excellent chat in what has been a much needed pod for the time slot in the market. Rational intellectual talk away from the insane boxing twitter. Appreciate the content and the guys for giving their time.
100%. This is the best out there by miles and a welcome relief from the unthinking shoutfest that a lot of the other content out there inevitably descends into. They’re doing a fantastic job.
@MMA Gold, everything you've stated is actually nonsensical and irrelevant. Usyk won in prime fashion, that IS like it or not relevant. Thank you guy's for your honesty, much appreciated, and a brilliant watch. 🥊✌
@@ukrobboxing - Someone always has to spoil it after you starting this thread with a positive comment, I just didn’t expect to be so soon. I do agree that Fury would’ve beat AJ with ease but not in the manner the person below you said it. For all he knew you could’ve been a massive Fury fan and maybe you are.
When he struggled to do the basics properly as a defending champion you deserve everything you get, he definitely needs to switch up his trainers because that fight plan was shocking
@Calmac1888 it's casuals bro they didn't even watch AJ vs Parker who is a good slick boxer hard to get a hold of properly then fights an elite guy in Usyk a master it was only going one way
There's more to it than that Joshua has been wary about letting his hands go since the Ruiz fight he was the same against Pulev he should've finished him two three rounds earlier than he did. Yes Usyk was a worthy winner & he schooled Joshua but AJ is a safety first fighter these days. It's not like Usyk was countering AJ he was just picking him off because it was safe to do so.
@@johnmichaelson9173 he is more cautious these days no doubt. But he couldn't let his hands go even if he wanted because of Usyk's movement. It doesn't allow you to set your feet to throw with real authority and you spend half your time thinking and analysing looking for an opening which drains you mentally.
An iconic performance from Usyk, the way he mesmerised Joshua like a snake-charmer and played with him like a puppeteer was true greatness. Hopefully he gets his flowers now and starts being talked about as P4P top 3 (minimum). AJ has a 1-10% chance in the rematch but only if he changes his coaching set-up, McCracken’s corner work was awful and AJ’s declining as a fighter under him. A move back to Tony Sims would be perfect I think.
I hope you lads keep this show up, it reminds of the old Undisputed champion RUclips channel with Steve Kim, Doug Fischer and Michael Montero. Great chemistry and knowledge
Great conversation 👏 only thing I disagree with is the idea that AJ wouldn’t sell out a stadium for the rematch. Eddie Hearn would spin the absolute devil out of this. It would be even bigger. All on the line. Last chance saloon. Redemption. Against the odds. Cmon - this is Eddie’s bread and butter.
Paquio vs Thurman was class fight also Camelot was very young inexperienced against floyd I don’t know if would be the same now as Canelo is counter attacking fighter
I would have Usyk above Canelo P4P. I had GGG win both fights with Canelo and I think Canelo has beat belt holders rather than champions in divisions he has moved up in, in fact has Canelo really ever beating the man? He has had gift decesion's in GGG fights and Lara. Usyk however won his fights clean beat the best in the Cruiserweight division no question and established himself as the man, beat AJ who is a much better and proven belt holder than the guys Canelo is fighting. Plus Canelo has been caught cheating and is widely suspected he still cheats just to much dodgyness around him with Vada testing, dodgy scorecards, other fighters in his camp popping etc.
Canelo won GGG2 imho. GGG being robbed in the first fight was the biggest judging travesty I can recall in my time following boxing. I agree that everything points towards Canelo being a flagrant PEDs cheat but until he gets (a) caught good and proper (b) his BS “Mexican beef” excuses dismissed by the appropriate authorities he has the record to justify being top of P4P imho. We can’t use points like “he’s been caught cheating” because the way that came out in the wash it’s not an accurate statement - the finding IIRC was that he *didn’t* cheat. Don’t get me wrong: I’m convinced he *is* a cheat - but until he’s caught bang to rights then, as far as the record shows, he’s not a cheat and therefore that can’t be held against him (imho). If I ran the world, I too would have Usyk top of P4P.
@@parrogakaparadise9477 Yeah I can see how Canelo can be viewed to win rematch it was close fight but the most common opinion and general concensus is GGG won both fights and GGG was champion even if you had Canelo winning was it conclusive enough to take the belts from the champion? Really? Are you sure? Usyk it was conclusive. Regarding the PED it's hard to seperate the politics from the science and neither of us really know but it's a serious question mark and it is consistant with camp also testing positive, the track marks on his torso especially around the GGG fights. Regardless of all that let's say you think he conclusively best GGG twice, Lara and Mayweather was really MD. Are they better wins than Usyk has? Really? Are you sure? AJ with huge size advantage? Gassiev in prime? Breidas in prime? I still got Usyk even if I ignore all the question marks surrounding Canelo and close my eyes watching the GGG and Lara fights. Then final point what do think is better for the sport fair play and sportsmanship or corruption?
Boys are right Usyk is far to good for AJ and most heavyweights. Can't see AJ winning the rematch. Usyk doesn't waste many punches. AJ should wait till someone else has the belts he might have a better chance of getting the belts back. Chisora done better.
AJ was a Rabbit in headlights like Ruiz fight 1.He looked scared and didn't use his Natural attributes FFS.Disappointed but Usyk had his Number. I don't know if Usyk beats Tyson,I think Tyson wins but Usyk beats wilder 🏴🇬🇧🙏
@Calmac1888 wasn't saved by the bell at all, usyk could've put him through the ropes at the end but decided to be classy which could've robbed him, you shouldn't leave it up to the judges in such a corrupt sport.
Massive Congratulation to Oleksandr Usyk, totally deserved win👍🏾. Joshua seems like a nice guy and wants the best for boxing and his community....nuf respect for that. But now that he's going to start facing elite boxers in the prime of their lives he will always struggle. Yes he has power and reasonable speed but he cannot fight at a high pace round after round, he will gas out.... it's not his fault, it's not about wrong training, it's just a gene selection thing.... that's why no matter how hard some people train they could never become a good middle or long distance runner. Some are blessed with great endurance, some with great strength, some with both. If Andy Ruiz had trained properly for their second fight and hadn't come in overweight and therefore slower in mobility, if he had trained harder than he did for the first fight (he was called in late as well) I don't think Joshua would've won fight 2 in the style he did without having to take many more punches. Ruiz just plain blew up and blew the fight. I think on an elite level AJ will have to just try and blast guys out in the first 3 or 4 rounds and if not successful then try to hang on and avoid getting stopped himself for another few rounds until he hopefully catches a second win to attempt a later rounds stoppage. Maybe with that tactic the initial onslaught he unleashes over the early rounds would significantly weaken his opponent, even though he couldn't stop them and he could survive into the later rounds.....as long as in the meantime he doesn't get his chinny clocked too many times while trying to get there
Brilliant discussion. I thought Usyk was fantastic. He’s a polished artist of the sport. He won those titles with a true boxing masterclass over joshua and I think joshua should stay well away from the rematch. It’s a fight he simply can’t win because Usyk is too good. There’s nothing AJ can bring to the table that will shock Usyk, he nullifies every threat he’s just unbelievable. He’s gonna keep those belts I genuinely believe that and stylistically he’s all wrong for AJ. If Joshua had have let his hands go last night it wouldn’t have made any difference. He just would’ve been spent by round 5 anyway. He was worn out at the end just by being conservative. Usyk is the real deal.
Massively disappointed for AJ. Assume his game plan was to outbox Usyk, which is frankly unbelievable if its the case?!. Huge challenge to get the win in the rematch but he's capable imo, if he uses the advantages he has ie size, weight, power. Was honestly like watching Vinnie Jones' crazy gang trying play total football against Man City. Let's see how he reacts to the loss and the pressure of the rematch but he's going to have to put it all on the line. Cheers for the Sunday morning breakdown, boys.
Power weight and size don't win fights hi is not the champ hi was before the Ruiz fight this happened to number of great fighter Ruiz took his fighter heart and to be honest his chin is exposed and everybody will know he cannot take a punch and hi know no that as well and that will have a affect on hime a rematch based on what
In other sports loosing is not that big of a deal as in boxing. It's a competition, you are supposed to fight the best , doesn't matter loose or win. The idea of goat, pound for pound fighter nd all that shit have robbed us from so many great fights. Boxers in their prime should fight each other but money corrupts everything.
Humble and loyal theres no place for that in the fight game. Look at fury how he switches his team hes learning. AJ is a great fighter but the Mr nice guy has no place in the ring . AJ needs another trainer
So happy for Usyk. Fully deserved. What a thorough schooling. Not even close! I was being nice myself scoring it 119 - 111. AJ can't win the rematch either. He'll get stopped. Usyk far too good. He'll beat Fury as well.
@@ninjasrose1653 the fun is not knowing beforehand, but fury is 6 feet 9, has a longer reach, is an excellent boxer and moves quick. Completely different to AJ
@@paulmeaden5731 very true. It'll certainly be more competitive. Let's hope we see it. But it wouldn't surprise me if Wilder finds a shot from the gods in 2 weeks!
I am far from an expert - But if they were the same size, who would win? Usyk 100 %. Therefore if AJ doest try and use his advantages, then they are just boxing - Hence the result
All this rough him up & use your size & weight basically meant Joshua had a punchers chance sadly Joshua didn't & couldn't throw his hands accurately & with enough force but truth is the corner was at fault for not telling AJ he was losing & needed a knockout. Whether that would've changed anything is a moot point but it would've been nice to hear McCracken being honest with AJ.
All of the press and RUclips creators had joshua winning this easy, he never got going and doesn't deserve a rematch uysk was so many levels above AJ, AJ struggled vs 40 year old men and a well over weight ruiz joshua got what he deserved, Eddie hearn signs AJ for life 4 days later AJ has been destroyed and hearn is gutted that is what you call karma, I'm sick of this narrative that AJ deserves credit for taking and losing a one sided beat down and it was a mandatory defense, before the fight I had usyk winning this, AJ is not a great boxer he won Olympic gold via a ridiculous decision, he has had refs wave fights of early, AJ is mentally weak when it comes to boxing.
Most of the comments here are codswallop! All AJ had to do was let go! All AJ had to do was throw more shots! All AJ had to do was win! Muppets! AJ fought as well as Usyk allowed him to! Woulda, coulda, shoulda. "As di bubbe volt gehat beytsim volt zi gevain mayn zaidah", as they say in Yiddish! (If my grandmother had balls she'd be my grandfather!)
AJ must and will also should and guarantee to get his title and respect back . Hit him hard all parts all the time no jokes. You can do it. You got this. You done it before. Don't let black Africans down I'm sure and believe that you can do this no jokes What who why any responses o was here before you. But I choose to bless Andy and Usyk just for a ride change of life . Prove myself and the fans real world heavy champion . Heavy punches heavy hooks heavy action non stop no jokes. Come on black man get up catch up hold your head up no plan B hit him hard at all time that's is AJ new phone number and moto and symbol
Joshua Several times got away with holding the back of Usyk'sw kneck and punching him. He only got warned for one because it was so blatant the ref had to act.
Anyone who credits Floyd Mayweather Jr. in any way for defeating a catchweighted opponent is spectacularly ignorant of the effects of dehydration on the human body.
If you look at AJ in the corner after round 1 was over he made a point to listen to Rob McCracken who was talking to him but then AJ turned to look at each other trainer standing behind the ropes. One was to his right and the other to his left and AJ turned to both of them when it seemed they were not trying to talk to him. As if AJ was saying or asking ok I've heard what Rob said now how about you guys? Anything to say? It was weird to me. You need one voice in the corner. That's the top and bottom of it. And this whole too many cooks in AJ's kitchen is true. But to me it seems that it's all AJ's doing. Very strange.
Canello ducked triple G for 2 years and waited till GGG was near the end of his championship career and older and they still had to steal the fights because Canello spent the fights running away and was still gifted the wins.
Get the facts right when Ruiz beat AJ in there first fight what never should have happened but it did. The rematch was a joke against Ruiz a fat boy running after AJ for 12 rounds. AJ won the fight on points and at some moments it looked he was scared. In that fight there where opportunities to knock Ruiz out and he din't he hold back. The fight last night showed that AJ chin is his weak spot. His boxing skill has not improved at all. Think of the Klishko fight when he got rocked he went on to win the fight on TKO This had give him a great feeling over the moon feeling. The TKO against Ruiz is in his head still, he is been exposed. It means his days are over if he doesn't chance a lot. Start whit his trainers send them home because they haven't improved him at all. I think they to nice to him he needs someone that tells him the truth and make him mean again. He wants his title back he need a trainer that tell him you can only win it back if you are willing to dye for it.
Paul van der Beek. AJ is worth 150£ million and hope these Guys earn same money but AJ will maybe Return but maybe lose but actually might have had enough?&150million ? I'd be enjoying my lifetime with what Joshua has earned and he deserves to continue or retirement.Usyk is 35 Aj is 31 but skills pay bill's and Big Bois can fight up past 40 years plus 🙏🥊
Good discussion. Well done Usyk but AJ was awful. He has the tools to beat Usyk but couldn’t let his hands go and played the wrong plan. He got to where he is by being an aggressive knock out artist. Del Boy was way more effective. How does that happen? He had the brief but threw 3 right hands? Not one big shot!?!?Poor effort. Usyk is class but AJ was terrible. Telling you Fury or White would knock out Usyk in short order. Rob wasn’t happy because he ignored him. And played tippy tap the jab was even weak. Not good enough . Sorry.
AJ came in with the wrong game plan AJ had usyk hurt a couple of times but didn’t jump on him,AJ didn’t turn up he had no aggressiveness he had no dog in him,let’s not make out usyk is just to grate people usyk gets hit a lot but AJ just didn’t let his hands go and trying to box with someone who’s boxed his whole career was just stupid,AJ was the far bigger stronger man he could and should of put usyk to sleep
Muppet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, woulda, coulda, shoulda. "As di bubbe volt gehat beytsim volt zi gevain mayn zaidah", as they say in Yiddish! (If my grandmother had balls she'd be my grandfather!) All AJ had to do was let go! All AJ had to do was throw more shots! All AJ had to do was win! Muppet!
That was the worst game plan rob could've come up with,the corner work was pure malpractice...yeah AJ...stay behind the jab in the 8th when it clearly isnt working? AJ need a Teddy Atlas so he learns how to FIGHT! not Rob's amateur nonsense.
Joshua stood off thatvwas the worst thing he could do he needed to pressure him with big right hands being thrown by the looks of things he couldnt do it he couldnt box and throw all he needed was throw more.. stop the moving stop the ducking and diving fight like he always has... terrible gameplan terrible
Are you reacting or are you discussing? What's wrong with just using standard English to describe stuff instead of illiterate youtube slang designed for babies?
Excellent chat in what has been a much needed pod for the time slot in the market. Rational intellectual talk away from the insane boxing twitter. Appreciate the content and the guys for giving their time.
Have you accepted that fury would beat aj with one hand??? And no camp 😂😂😂 aj was smart losing against usyk, so he doesnt need to fight fury
100%. This is the best out there by miles and a welcome relief from the unthinking shoutfest that a lot of the other content out there inevitably descends into. They’re doing a fantastic job.
@@werts2430 ridiculous comment
@MMA Gold, everything you've stated is actually nonsensical and irrelevant.
Usyk won in prime fashion, that IS like it or not relevant.
Thank you guy's for your honesty, much appreciated, and a brilliant watch. 🥊✌
@@ukrobboxing - Someone always has to spoil it after you starting this thread with a positive comment, I just didn’t expect to be so soon.
I do agree that Fury would’ve beat AJ with ease but not in the manner the person below you said it. For all he knew you could’ve been a massive Fury fan and maybe you are.
this was a brilliant discussion , need it after the fury fight too
Stay tuned! 👀
Boxing Social changing the game.
a very good podcast. more of this please
Great discussions gentleman, phenomenal piece of post fight content with no broadcaster agendas. Thank you and a real classy touch at the end 🤝
Sunday supplement of boxing, cracking content fellas.
Fantastic show - loving the direction your going with this Rob!
A classy touch at the end Rob.
Almost cried, held it together like a pro. Big up.
A true masterclass from Usyk - he wanted this fight for the last 2+ years and he was always confident about it.
Exactly
This was fantastic, would love to see more of these in the future!
Good quality discussion, fellas. Thanks for an enjoyable hour and a half.
This is superb, really enjoyed the conversation… hope it continues in the future
Joshua didn't do this or didn't do that because he couldn't.
He got outclassed and in the end outfought.
Spot on 👌
When he struggled to do the basics properly as a defending champion you deserve everything you get, he definitely needs to switch up his trainers because that fight plan was shocking
@Calmac1888 it's casuals bro they didn't even watch AJ vs Parker who is a good slick boxer hard to get a hold of properly then fights an elite guy in Usyk a master it was only going one way
There's more to it than that Joshua has been wary about letting his hands go since the Ruiz fight he was the same against Pulev he should've finished him two three rounds earlier than he did. Yes Usyk was a worthy winner & he schooled Joshua but AJ is a safety first fighter these days. It's not like Usyk was countering AJ he was just picking him off because it was safe to do so.
@@johnmichaelson9173 he is more cautious these days no doubt. But he couldn't let his hands go even if he wanted because of Usyk's movement. It doesn't allow you to set your feet to throw with real authority and you spend half your time thinking and analysing looking for an opening which drains you mentally.
i could listen to these four dissect any fight past or present. Excellent!
Great show guys!
An iconic performance from Usyk, the way he mesmerised Joshua like a snake-charmer and played with him like a puppeteer was true greatness. Hopefully he gets his flowers now and starts being talked about as P4P top 3 (minimum).
AJ has a 1-10% chance in the rematch but only if he changes his coaching set-up, McCracken’s corner work was awful and AJ’s declining as a fighter under him. A move back to Tony Sims would be perfect I think.
Leave Rob for Tony Sims 🤣🤣🤣
Really enjoyed this. Hope this becomes a regular thing
Great discussion
What a great debate. Need this more often
Love these reaction podcasts keep em coming boys 👍 shout out from Texas
Brilliant discussion , hope these continue 👏
Brilliant show. Loved every minute of it, more Boxing channels need to be giving their own insight to fights just like these guys. 🥊
Superb discussion lads, very thoughtful and common sense discussion. You are all full of knowledge and absolutely smashing it. 🥊
This is top tier boxing content
Great content. Nice one boxing social
WELL DONE USYK GREAT FIGHTER,AJ NUMBER IS UP PUT THE GLOVES UP,RUIZ HAS TAKEN THE FIRE OUT OF UR LION HEART
FYI the 12th round wasn't stopped early, DAZN was 4-5 seconds late starting their clock after the bell rang at the start of the round.
great idea this
I hope you lads keep this show up, it reminds of the old Undisputed champion RUclips channel with Steve Kim, Doug Fischer and Michael Montero.
Great chemistry and knowledge
I couldn't believe the judge who scored it 115-113. Usyk dominant all the way through. AJ probably won 2 rounds
Yup, none of these guys challenged that. Howard foster is the most bent official in boxing.
When he decided not to knock aj out right at the end I was worried he would get robbed by the judges
Howard foster should not be judging in 2022 and beyond, he’s disgraceful.
The best analysis and breakdown I’ve heard was from Peter Fury given in an IFL interview.
Good podcast. But not calling out those scorecards guys is criminal. 115-113 from Howard foster was a joke.
What about the Sunday truce ? Looking forward to more of these
Great conversation 👏 only thing I disagree with is the idea that AJ wouldn’t sell out a stadium for the rematch. Eddie Hearn would spin the absolute devil out of this. It would be even bigger. All on the line. Last chance saloon. Redemption. Against the odds. Cmon - this is Eddie’s bread and butter.
For sure 🥊🥊🥊
Hearn was only gutted after the fight cause he knows if he loses the rematch his cash cow is in danger of fading away from relevancy
Paquio vs Thurman was class fight also Camelot was very young inexperienced against floyd I don’t know if would be the same now as Canelo is counter attacking fighter
I would have Usyk above Canelo P4P. I had GGG win both fights with Canelo and I think Canelo has beat belt holders rather than champions in divisions he has moved up in, in fact has Canelo really ever beating the man? He has had gift decesion's in GGG fights and Lara. Usyk however won his fights clean beat the best in the Cruiserweight division no question and established himself as the man, beat AJ who is a much better and proven belt holder than the guys Canelo is fighting. Plus Canelo has been caught cheating and is widely suspected he still cheats just to much dodgyness around him with Vada testing, dodgy scorecards, other fighters in his camp popping etc.
Yeah your right
Canelo won GGG2 imho. GGG being robbed in the first fight was the biggest judging travesty I can recall in my time following boxing.
I agree that everything points towards Canelo being a flagrant PEDs cheat but until he gets (a) caught good and proper (b) his BS “Mexican beef” excuses dismissed by the appropriate authorities he has the record to justify being top of P4P imho. We can’t use points like “he’s been caught cheating” because the way that came out in the wash it’s not an accurate statement - the finding IIRC was that he *didn’t* cheat. Don’t get me wrong: I’m convinced he *is* a cheat - but until he’s caught bang to rights then, as far as the record shows, he’s not a cheat and therefore that can’t be held against him (imho). If I ran the world, I too would have Usyk top of P4P.
@@parrogakaparadise9477 Yeah I can see how Canelo can be viewed to win rematch it was close fight but the most common opinion and general concensus is GGG won both fights and GGG was champion even if you had Canelo winning was it conclusive enough to take the belts from the champion? Really? Are you sure?
Usyk it was conclusive.
Regarding the PED it's hard to seperate the politics from the science and neither of us really know but it's a serious question mark and it is consistant with camp also testing positive, the track marks on his torso especially around the GGG fights.
Regardless of all that let's say you think he conclusively best GGG twice, Lara and Mayweather was really MD. Are they better wins than Usyk has? Really? Are you sure?
AJ with huge size advantage? Gassiev in prime? Breidas in prime?
I still got Usyk even if I ignore all the question marks surrounding Canelo and close my eyes watching the GGG and Lara fights.
Then final point what do think is better for the sport fair play and sportsmanship or corruption?
Nice to see Mike from the Jersey shore doing well on the left ✌
Tumbleweed
Boys are right Usyk is far to good for AJ and most heavyweights. Can't see AJ winning the rematch. Usyk doesn't waste many punches. AJ should wait till someone else has the belts he might have a better chance of getting the belts back. Chisora done better.
Great show however i believe they forgot one thing, to mention joe joyce.
It’s all well and good saying AJ has to be aggressive but he might walk onto one if he does.
And gas.
Exactly
AJ was a Rabbit in headlights like Ruiz fight 1.He looked scared and didn't use his Natural attributes FFS.Disappointed but Usyk had his Number. I don't know if Usyk beats Tyson,I think Tyson wins but Usyk beats wilder 🏴🇬🇧🙏
Joshua winning the last 2 rounds ha, he couldn't breathe from chasing the master and being schooled.
@Calmac1888 wasn't saved by the bell at all, usyk could've put him through the ropes at the end but decided to be classy which could've robbed him, you shouldn't leave it up to the judges in such a corrupt sport.
Massive Congratulation to Oleksandr Usyk, totally deserved win👍🏾.
Joshua seems like a nice guy and wants the best for boxing and his community....nuf respect for that.
But now that he's going to start facing elite boxers in the prime of their lives he will always struggle. Yes he has power and reasonable speed but he cannot fight at a high pace round after round, he will gas out.... it's not his fault, it's not about wrong training, it's just a gene selection thing.... that's why no matter how hard some people train they could never become a good middle or long distance runner. Some are blessed with great endurance, some with great strength, some with both.
If Andy Ruiz had trained properly for their second fight and hadn't come in overweight and therefore slower in mobility, if he had trained harder than he did for the first fight (he was called in late as well) I don't think Joshua would've won fight 2 in the style he did without having to take many more punches.
Ruiz just plain blew up and blew the fight.
I think on an elite level AJ will have to just try and blast guys out in the first 3 or 4 rounds and if not successful then try to hang on and avoid getting stopped himself for another few rounds until he hopefully catches a second win to attempt a later rounds stoppage. Maybe with that tactic the initial onslaught he unleashes over the early rounds would significantly weaken his opponent, even though he couldn't stop them and he could survive into the later rounds.....as long as in the meantime he doesn't get his chinny clocked too many times while trying to get there
Brilliant discussion.
I thought Usyk was fantastic. He’s a polished artist of the sport. He won those titles with a true boxing masterclass over joshua and I think joshua should stay well away from the rematch.
It’s a fight he simply can’t win because Usyk is too good.
There’s nothing AJ can bring to the table that will shock Usyk, he nullifies every threat he’s just unbelievable.
He’s gonna keep those belts I genuinely believe that and stylistically he’s all wrong for AJ.
If Joshua had have let his hands go last night it wouldn’t have made any difference. He just would’ve been spent by round 5 anyway.
He was worn out at the end just by being conservative.
Usyk is the real deal.
Spot on, spot on. 🎯
Good stuff.
Jshua's eye was swollen below but his eye never, ever, fucking EVER closed.
Nice show, lads
Massively disappointed for AJ.
Assume his game plan was to outbox Usyk, which is frankly unbelievable if its the case?!.
Huge challenge to get the win in the rematch but he's capable imo, if he uses the advantages he has ie size, weight, power.
Was honestly like watching Vinnie Jones' crazy gang trying play total football against Man City.
Let's see how he reacts to the loss and the pressure of the rematch but he's going to have to put it all on the line.
Cheers for the Sunday morning breakdown, boys.
He didn't attack with power punches cos Usyk gave him little opportunity too.
It wasn't just 'AJ's choice to box'.
Outclassed
Power weight and size don't win fights hi is not the champ hi was before the Ruiz fight this happened to number of great fighter Ruiz took his fighter heart and to be honest his chin is exposed and everybody will know he cannot take a punch and hi know no that as well and that will have a affect on hime a rematch based on what
Just more of the same! AJ's bigger! AJ's stronger! It is all irrelevant. Usyk nullifies his opponents' advantages. AJ is a bodybuilder, not a boxer.
I feel like we slipped into the wrong parallel world somewhere along the line!
Totally outclassed. Rematch would be suicide
Must suck being a AJ fan boy having to go through all their comments and delete them after talking mass smack
In other sports loosing is not that big of a deal as in boxing. It's a competition, you are supposed to fight the best , doesn't matter loose or win. The idea of goat, pound for pound fighter nd all that shit have robbed us from so many great fights. Boxers in their prime should fight each other but money corrupts everything.
Heavyweight version of Loma..... well done champ 👊👊
Volume always too quiet on boxing social
How come the video starts again at about 55 mins?
Great chat, but be good to have a pro in the group to give a fighters perspective.
Humble and loyal theres no place for that in the fight game. Look at fury how he switches his team hes learning. AJ is a great fighter but the Mr nice guy has no place in the ring . AJ needs another trainer
So happy for Usyk. Fully deserved. What a thorough schooling. Not even close! I was being nice myself scoring it 119 - 111. AJ can't win the rematch either. He'll get stopped. Usyk far too good. He'll beat Fury as well.
He's very good, but he can't beat fury. No chance
@@paulmeaden5731 we'll see pal. I just can't see anyone beating him tbh.
@@ninjasrose1653 the fun is not knowing beforehand, but fury is 6 feet 9, has a longer reach, is an excellent boxer and moves quick. Completely different to AJ
@@paulmeaden5731 very true. It'll certainly be more competitive. Let's hope we see it. But it wouldn't surprise me if Wilder finds a shot from the gods in 2 weeks!
@@ninjasrose1653 absolutely. Wilder is always capable of landing one ko punch, even if he loses the first 12 rounds. I'm worried for fury
I am far from an expert - But if they were the same size, who would win? Usyk 100 %. Therefore if AJ doest try and use his advantages, then they are just boxing - Hence the result
All this rough him up & use your size & weight basically meant Joshua had a punchers chance sadly Joshua didn't & couldn't throw his hands accurately & with enough force but truth is the corner was at fault for not telling AJ he was losing & needed a knockout. Whether that would've changed anything is a moot point but it would've been nice to hear McCracken being honest with AJ.
All of the press and RUclips creators had joshua winning this easy, he never got going and doesn't deserve a rematch uysk was so many levels above AJ,
AJ struggled vs 40 year old men and a well over weight ruiz joshua got what he deserved,
Eddie hearn signs AJ for life 4 days later AJ has been destroyed and hearn is gutted that is what you call karma, I'm sick of this narrative that AJ deserves credit for taking and losing a one sided beat down and it was a mandatory defense, before the fight I had usyk winning this, AJ is not a great boxer he won Olympic gold via a ridiculous decision, he has had refs wave fights of early, AJ is mentally weak when it comes to boxing.
@Calmac1888 congrats 👏 smart bet
Most of the comments here are codswallop! All AJ had to do was let go! All AJ had to do was throw more shots! All AJ had to do was win! Muppets! AJ fought as well as Usyk allowed him to!
Woulda, coulda, shoulda. "As di bubbe volt gehat beytsim volt zi gevain mayn zaidah", as they say in Yiddish! (If my grandmother had balls she'd be my grandfather!)
AJ must and will also should and guarantee to get his title and respect back . Hit him hard all parts all the time no jokes. You can do it. You got this. You done it before. Don't let black Africans down I'm sure and believe that you can do this no jokes
What who why any responses o was here before you. But I choose to bless Andy and Usyk just for a ride change of life . Prove myself and the fans real world heavy champion . Heavy punches heavy hooks heavy action non stop no jokes. Come on black man get up catch up hold your head up no plan B hit him hard at all time that's is AJ new phone number and moto and symbol
Joshua Several times got away with holding the back of Usyk'sw kneck and punching him. He only got warned for one because it was so blatant the ref had to act.
Rounds 4-8 to Joshua? What planet you at 10:00?!
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Disagree with the notion that Fury would
Beat Usyk. Usyk is QUICKER and fights
In angles. Would be a big problem for Fury IMO.
Anyone who credits Floyd Mayweather Jr. in any way for defeating a catchweighted opponent is spectacularly ignorant of the effects of dehydration on the human body.
AJ shouldn't try to box and if he wants to, then he should be fighting more than twice a year.
If you look at AJ in the corner after round 1 was over he made a point to listen to Rob McCracken who was talking to him but then AJ turned to look at each other trainer standing behind the ropes. One was to his right and the other to his left and AJ turned to both of them when it seemed they were not trying to talk to him. As if AJ was saying or asking ok I've heard what Rob said now how about you guys? Anything to say? It was weird to me. You need one voice in the corner. That's the top and bottom of it. And this whole too many cooks in AJ's kitchen is true. But to me it seems that it's all AJ's doing. Very strange.
Canello ducked triple G for 2 years and waited till GGG was near the end of his championship career and older and they still had to steal the fights because Canello spent the fights running away and was still gifted the wins.
Get the facts right when Ruiz beat AJ in there first fight what never should have happened but it did.
The rematch was a joke against Ruiz a fat boy running after AJ for 12 rounds.
AJ won the fight on points and at some moments it looked he was scared.
In that fight there where opportunities to knock Ruiz out and he din't he hold back.
The fight last night showed that AJ chin is his weak spot.
His boxing skill has not improved at all.
Think of the Klishko fight when he got rocked he went on to win the fight on TKO
This had give him a great feeling over the moon feeling.
The TKO against Ruiz is in his head still, he is been exposed.
It means his days are over if he doesn't chance a lot.
Start whit his trainers send them home because they haven't improved him at all.
I think they to nice to him he needs someone that tells him the truth and make him mean again.
He wants his title back he need a trainer that tell him you can only win it back if you are willing to dye for it.
Paul van der Beek. AJ is worth 150£ million and hope these Guys earn same money but AJ will maybe Return but maybe lose but actually might have had enough?&150million ? I'd be enjoying my lifetime with what Joshua has earned and he deserves to continue or retirement.Usyk is 35 Aj is 31 but skills pay bill's and Big Bois can fight up past 40 years plus 🙏🥊
@@สมชายใหญ่เสมอ-ฝ2ฤ Who gives a tos wath AJ is worth his fans are sick as fuck after that preformance that what this chat is about.
AJ should try eating some shrooms with Mike Tyson...
Fury is not a foot taller he's 6 inches taller.
Usyk won't fight in Saudi Arabia, no chance. He's a Cossack!
Why
@@kingragnar8246 Cossack is a Knight of Christ
The only way AJ can beat Usyk is surprising him with a rear naked choke.
Good discussion. Well done Usyk but AJ was awful. He has the tools to beat Usyk but couldn’t let his hands go and played the wrong plan. He got to where he is by being an aggressive knock out artist. Del Boy was way more effective. How does that happen? He had the brief but threw 3 right hands? Not one big shot!?!?Poor effort. Usyk is class but AJ was terrible. Telling you Fury or White would knock out Usyk in short order. Rob wasn’t happy because he ignored him. And played tippy tap the jab was even weak. Not good enough . Sorry.
Ignored him? All he did was shout, "Brilliant, AJ!"
AJ came in with the wrong game plan AJ had usyk hurt a couple of times but didn’t jump on him,AJ didn’t turn up he had no aggressiveness he had no dog in him,let’s not make out usyk is just to grate people usyk gets hit a lot but AJ just didn’t let his hands go and trying to box with someone who’s boxed his whole career was just stupid,AJ was the far bigger stronger man he could and should of put usyk to sleep
Muppet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, woulda, coulda, shoulda. "As di bubbe volt gehat beytsim volt zi gevain mayn zaidah", as they say in Yiddish! (If my grandmother had balls she'd be my grandfather!) All AJ had to do was let go! All AJ had to do was throw more shots! All AJ had to do was win! Muppet!
That was the worst game plan rob could've come up with,the corner work was pure malpractice...yeah AJ...stay behind the jab in the 8th when it clearly isnt working? AJ need a Teddy Atlas so he learns how to FIGHT! not Rob's amateur nonsense.
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Canelo only ever lost 1 in 60 fights mental
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AJ can't handle being hit.
Usyk is not a heavy hitter.
AJ's right eye tells a different story....
Joshua stood off thatvwas the worst thing he could do he needed to pressure him with big right hands being thrown by the looks of things he couldnt do it he couldnt box and throw all he needed was throw more.. stop the moving stop the ducking and diving fight like he always has... terrible gameplan terrible
AJ will lose the rematch by TKO in the rematch IMHO.
Started off better man won no excuses “hate when people make excuses”, then spend a hour and a half discussing possible excuses..
Usyk wasn’t so brilliant AJ was just fucken sloppy in this fight for some reason
Spot who hates canelo 😂🤣
usyk speaks russian 99% of the time not ukrainian
I used to be a fan of Joshua until all that racist BS he came out with! The moral of this story is don’t believe your own hype!!!!
Does anyone else think that AJ 'deliberately' lost the fight?
Just saying after Ruiz round 2. World adulation can be addictive maybe.
Your crazy man, Usyk and Ruiz are totally different
🤣 put the weed down. Usyk was always a technical nightmare for aj
Tell us how 9/11 really went down bruh. You crazy AF.
How many times you win back YOUR belts is the real warrior tho....... Again just saying.
@@fiaelle9268 if he loses the rematch his chance of getting a fight for them belts is very very low for years
Yes also get rid of rob hes a fucking terrible trainner for joshua he dont have the big ideas no back up just not good enough
Ldbc channels are coming out the closet
Are you reacting or are you discussing? What's wrong with just using standard English to describe stuff instead of illiterate youtube slang designed for babies?