The Gallons per Acre of land depends a lot on what vegetal you're using as a base for Ethanol. Here in Brazil we make Ethanol from sugarcane, it's fermentation process takes less time and you get about double the amount of fuel/land. Also, we have E-100 ethanol on every fuel pump, great for performance and costs about half the price of gas with about 3/4 of the mileage, so at least a good 85% of new vehicles here come with a flex fuel option (except for diesel trucks and stuffs like that).
“And then the internal combustion engine becomes a thing of the past like my happiness” 😂 Bart always has me dying lmao but I learn a lot! Great job guys 😉
Here in Brazil I drive a 34 year old Mercedes which uses ethanol blended gasoline for about 27 years. From 15% in 1992 it has raised to 27% today. Not because I have a option (it's mandatory to gasoline here to have between 25 and 27% ethanol), but despite changes in the fuel hoses and a carburetor diaphragm, I don't have a single issue here. The car was once sat for about 4 months and started right away. The carbon build up is really low, the fuel tank is pristine and the carb actually has zero corrosion. But again, it's a carbureted engine, which I could fine tune it to perform with the same mileage to the european or US fuel. Friends with fuel injected ones blame a 30% drop in fuel efficiency. But my point is: Change your fuel hoses (as I would recommend to any old car driver) to a good ethanol-resistant one, advance your ignition timing a bit, maybe a colder plug and test it. I know it's not better than pure gasoline in overall performance but considering the benefits regarding less pollution, it's a very little compromise. Sad to know it's so expensive to make in the US.
unfortunately this is possible only in few places in the world, like Brazil where production of sugar cane and ethanol is cheap. I don't see how it could be done in other places like Europe or north america, unless super heavy subsidies (usa subsidize a lot the corn production, to get to 10% ethanol in petrol.)
Here, in Brasil we use pure ethanol (E100), i feel the change in my car, it gets more "nervous" with 11 hp more than regular gas (142hp/153hp), our ethanol is made with cana-de-açúcar (sugar cane).
I LOVE E85! I took my Jaguar XE35t from 340 stock HP, swapped two pulleys and added the VelocityAP tune, and now I have 553hp. No other mechanical changes needed for running Ethanol in the Jaguar XE. This puts me less than 40HP away from the worlds fastest Sedan, the Jaguar XE P8. :-) You can get a used XE35t for around 25K, even less.
Another point that speaks for ethanol is that you can manufacture it anywhere you can grow starchy crops. Which is basically anywhere humans live. Oil you have to find and have. Maybe not so relevant for the US, but if you depend on pipelines and huge ships to get your oil, it looks a lot more interesting. (Considering the ships probably do not use light oil extra de-sulfured, but rather whatever dregs are left in the refinery...)
Ethanol is actually amongst the simplest fuels. You can create it with water, sugar and yeast. You get the sugar from the corn, add the water and the yeast, fermented, distill it and you have ethanol.
yep, that's how is made in Usa, but you could do it from a variety of sources that can be transformed into sugar and subsequently ethanol. In Brazil is done with sugar cane, but it could be made from every starchy or sugary crop; the main thing is that it has to be as cheap as possible, otherwise it won't make much sense.
Well, here at Brazil we produce ethanol using sugar cane. At gas stations here, you can find fuel with +90% pure ethanol and we have many cars running it daily.
Yep, higher sugar content in sugar cane yields higher ethanol outputs for a given input. However, sugar cane does not grow very efficiently in the dryer, colder American Midwest.
@@cyjan3k823 Ethanol it's just cheaper than gas here. Thanks to the government investment in alternative fuels we managed to create cheaper and more efficient methods to produce ethanol using the sugar cane.
@@cyjan3k823 producing ethanol from sugar cane is cheaper and more efficient than from corn. Sugar cane grows like a weed in Brazil, whereas the US has millions of acres devoted to growing corn. It's all about economies of scale. Corn is a less efficient input, but it's far cheaper to grow in the US than sugar cane. Brazil simply has the advantage in growing sugar cane and invested in developing the processes and industries for manufacturing ethanol from it cheaper than the US can.
I put E85 in my 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 that is not Flex Fuel compatible it runs great for a long time no problems just smells like Cornish than usual and it does help pass with smog.
I am super excited for the potential algae biofuel has for the world. It takes less space, can be grown on salt water or waste water, it produces food as a byproduct, it's completely carbon neutral, and it can be used to produce a wide range of fuels from gasoline to jet fuel. I really want to see algae biofuel take off because myself and many other people aren't ready to give up their muscle cars anytime soon.
Thank you! I've been waiting for a video on E85 from you all. Now I don't have to explain myself over why I'm waiting for one specific pump over the 11 other free pumps. I can just play this for my passenger while I wait.
Ethanol with proper tuning is the bee's knees. Much better partial and full throttle power and even a smoother running engine. (Given you have enough injector) The MPG loss can be minimized as well because you can run a bit leaner partial throttle and also advance timing. I drove 60 miles on the freeway last week and got 33mpg on my B7 2.0T on E50.
I modified my 1980 Pontiac LeMans Safari wagon with a 301 and ran E85 and regular half & half, advanced the cam, blocked the heat risers, 160° thermostat, distributor had more timing than the law allows, used my car to haul scrap metal and antiques even with a 2.29 rear end ratio, the smogger carburetor ran way rich so it loved the alky. The only downside was I had to replace every fuel, return, and vapor line imaginable. Got many compliments on the sound of the car like it had a huge cam.
Here in Brazil, ethanol is a fuel sold normally at gas stations, all popular cars are Flex, run on Gasoline and Ethanol. is a more fuel with lower price. here it is produced from sugarcane.
Here in Brazil also sells Vehicular Natural Gas (GNV) which is a cheaper fuel still, however the cars do not leave the Factory already adapted to use this fuel, the drivers install this kits in specialized companies, mainly the taxi drivers, however there is a the only model that comes from the factory adapted to use GNV, FIAT Sienna Tetrafuel, it works using Gasoline, Ethanol, Natural Gas and Gasoline from Argentina.
@@WilliamACastro Denmark... probably one of the least innovative countries on the front of alternative fuel, the worst country to own a car in, and home of the well-known oil and bunker company Mærsk :D Seriously... LPG could never lift off here (there's also an explosion danger, moreso than normal gas, so even the EU has problems with it)... we don't even have E85 served at the pumps (unlike Norway, Sweden and Germany). Not all cars are flex, but most newer ones can be refitted for flex... if it wasn't bogged down by taxes. E100 would never fly here... at least for the next 30 or so years because of a controversial state deal with Mærsk... However, the state has considered reducing import tax (normally almost 200%) on electric cars... and the infrastructure is starting to get solid on that point... Regular gas (95 EU octane, afaik americans would call it 88) lies just short of $2 per liter and diesel is about $1.50/liter currently... about half of that is CO2 "guiltyness" tax
I have a flex fuel 2013 Taurus . I only have 1 station that carries it. It's on a navy base. I do have access to it. It used to be more expensive than gas. I used it on and off for 4 years now. Lately, it's all I use. Its 80cents cheaper than gas. Except for a lower mpg, my car is fine with it. Glad I can use it right now because of the pipeline issue.
75% E85 & 25% GASOLINE blended together make a great race fuel..I use it in my classic 1970 Chevelle SS 454 V8 Big Block..Raises my Octane 15 points..👍
However, the assumption that ethanol makes the air cleaner does not take into account all of the farm equipment used to harvest the corn as well as the refinement process, using straight gasoline In regular driving is a lot cleaner and makes more sense than the ethanol additives. But keep putting it in racing fuel, that’s a sacrifice we’re all willing to make.
You can run farm equipment on ethanol too if you know what you’re doing. You can also create an ethanol burner for your distillation apparatus if you know what you’re doing. 🤷🏽
My 1967 Triumph Daytona motorcycle manual shows how to set the bike up to run on E95 and explains that it is much higher octain and runs much cooler and removes water from the fuel system. They thought that over the next few years, petrol would be faced out and replaced by ethanol. My dad ran E95 in his 1937 Harley when he raced it!
I run Methanol in my race car. I also run new bearings after every quarter mile pass. My daily driver only requires a carb rebuild once a month to run alcohol. I add some 30wt oil to each fill up to try and keep rust in my tank at bay. I also use oil with no zinc in my race car but not in my daily driver.
My car sat for about a month with E85 in the tank (I had some issues with my tuner) and after I got it sorted and started it was a little rough for about 2 or 3 minutes but after that there have been no problems at all. Switching to E85 was probably my favorite mod I've ever done with any car.
"Flex Fuel" is not another name for E85. "Flex Fuel" denotes that a vehicle can run on various mixtures of fuel, usually anything from normal petroleum to full fat E85 and various in-between mixtures.
In the 70s, Pioneer ran a funny car on E95, and it could only run for expansion because it had such an advantage! In the early 2000s, Triumph ran a Daytona 675 on pure ethanol for exhibition for the same reason, and it led to the new Triumph moto GP bikes that run on E95
Great content and very well presented, I always use E10, its the cheapest and also higher octane than standard unleaded here in Australia. standard = 91 RON, e10 = 95 RON
Depending what your car was made for, E-85 helps out LATER in the process. First modifications towards leading E-85 is a full exhaust system, starting with the headers, than a tune, a better intake filter, THAN E-85. Not doing this is a waste of fuel with minimal power gain. This fuel is awesome, but not when the weather is cold.
I have a son who works at the local "corn gas" plant. It's one of the most heavily monitored(by the ATF) facilities around. They make sure no one is running moonshine outta there. He gives me 55 gal barrels full of the used mash though...makes great fertilizer and breaks up the heavy clay soil. Also good bear bait!
If it's not equipped with flex fuel sensors, etc. it'll run poorly if you mix more than 15% ethanol content. The effective octane rating of the fuel in your tank will go up, but your ECM will have to adjust the mass flow from injectors to compensate since ethanol has about 2/3 the combustion energy density of gasoline. BTW most E85 sold at gas stations isnt exactly 85% ethanol. there is always some variance to ethanol content. Some gas stations will have 70% some have 82%, etc. The content matters because fuel maps will need to be calibrated based on how much ethanol is in the fuel mixture.
nothing except better performance. I've run my BMW on full ethynol E85 for almost a year and its fantastic. Those who say otherwise have never used it they just repeat information they hear or read from unreliable sources.
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I have a 78 GM Chevette and a 92 Ford Verona, both runnin on alcohol since they are "born" still running fine
Science Garage these days feels like "Keep it down in the Science Garage, the baby is sleeping in the next room over" - I don't know if this was a production decision or Bart is just feeling low on energy or what, but it's just not the same. :\
So in my car I run mid grade, which is regular gas mixed with premium gas, kind of like in the middle. My car runs great on this kind of fuel, with decent mileage. If I were to say add a half a tank of E-85, to my mid grade would this keep the E-85 from separating from it's water at a slower rate? What would it do to the mileage I'm getting with the mid grade?
I'm the nerd here. We have to make ethanol as a byproduct of feed for livestock and inputs for many Agra chemicals. Washer fluid, de-icing chemicals, feedstocks for thousands of products. If we used more ethanol for transport, it would help our obesity epidemic. The tech is here now but it takes leadership to balance out our resource consumption.
Regarding the food vs fuel debate, it's important to note that the vast majority of corn in this country is actually used for animal feed and that the by-product of the distillation for ethanol (DSG - distiller grain solubles) is a very high quality feed for animals, so using corn to make ethanol is not an either-or proposition since the products of the distillation produce both ethanol AND DSG (a feed for animals -which the corn would have otherwise been used for).
Flex fuel isn't an issue of rubber seals, it's an issue of engine management and sensors. Modern fuel systems can support E85 just fine, but they need to be tuned for it.
Also most car engines have long switched from fiber/cork gaskets to exclusively multi-layered steel (MLS) gaskets a long time ago to the point where that is more of a falsehood than a truth. To ballpark, If it was made after 2005, chances are that a tune is the issue.
Its possible to run E85. You would have to upgrade the fuel system components and get a tune for it. But if you’re saying just a regular car and the owner tries to put in E85, yeah thats a big hell no. Don’t ever do that.
While I don't necessarily agree that companies "have our best interest at heart", I definitely am interested in using pure ethanol fuels in hybrid use with electric motors
Precise timing and high compression also increases efficiency does it not? Modern engines could run up to a 12.1:1 compression ratio on E85 while current E10-E15 usually run a 9.4-10.1 compression ratio. Higher compression means more heat and more heat means more efficiency, precise timing also means more efficiency and both of those also increase power gains, on top of that, eco-boost cars could run more boost to save on fuel economy.
That's normal as ethanol naturally burns more efficiently than gasoline. You still save money as ethanol is a lot cheaper depending where you live while increasing the power potential of your engine. It's good for the environment, too.
@@3O2MuStAnG I have a turbo kit on a 3.5 VQ Putting 349 down at the wheel. Not only do I get valve chatter during cold start ups with ethanol but sluggish pedal response all around. And although the price is negligible when comparing the two types of gasoline almost all ethanol laced gas in my area is 15%.
OneTT It really does depend where you live. In Australia E10 is the "cheap" fuel and is generally avoided since most cars run like ass on it. E85 on the other hand is fairly uncommon at the pumps and is usually 40-50 cents MORE expensive than petrol.
The better mileage is due to the fact that the power density of ethanol is lower than that of gasoline. So to get same amount of heat out of the fuel you need to use more of it.
The problem isn't ethanol as a primary fuel, the issue is corn. Brazil has been running cars on cane ethanol forever, but sugarcane doesn't have to be turned into sugar first- it already is sugar. Fuel/water contamination can be solved with additives, additives that Brazil knows about. A Canadian scientist made ethanol on sawgrass, another sugar-rich plant.
I have a 2000 and 2001 truck/car put ethanol free gasoline in both vehicles everything has improved. Gas mileage, overall performance,engine temperatures, reduced idle rpm’s, same Highway speeds at lower rpm’s- drive exact 260 mile route round trip 3X week . Use all grades from 87 thru 91 octane rates.
As an owner of a 1971 Datsun 240z (twin carbs) Efuel is a disaster, when the fuel is fresh the cars starts and runs just fine however, if I let it sit as little of 2 weeks the fuel becomes useless, the car refuses to start properly and once started it will not run properly, it refuses to idle and drive as it should, I have to drain the gas and put fresh gas into it , problem goes away, strangely, fuel injected cars are not effected by the same problem. Also, I noticed that my fuel filter (the reusable cleanable glass job) keeps getting clogged with what can be described as a very fine mud...color is tan, not sure what that is all about. I'm in Las Vegas so water absorption from the air should not be an issue, As the car is not a daily driver I do not keep any fuel in it, I put in couple of gallons at a time when its to be driven. Its a PITA but it is what it is.
In brazil, since we produce a lot of ethanol, our cars are tuned to run on either gas or ethanol, and even the gas here have a small percentage of ethanol due to government regulations( don't know why).
It's nice to know that it cuts greenhouse gases emissions but upto what extent? It gives how much cleaner exhaust? And why it is not used worldwide in production cars so as to minimize harmful emissions?
In France ethanol is sold in many gas stations and it is so cheap compare to E10, about 0.60€/Liter which more or less convert to $0.20/gallon. Sure, by running on E85 your gas mileage will decrease by about 20% but since ethanol is 150% cheaper than conventional gasoline it is still a good deal in here.
Here in Brazil ethanol is made of sugar cane and is as common as gas, so every car that is built here has a corrosion protection, since all of our gasoline has some ethanol in it. The more you know *rainbows
Put E15 aka Unleaded 88 in my car yesterday and set off the emissions CEL. GM says I can run it, but it still freaks out the system. Gonna switch to E85 this summer so I can make more power.
so russian racers put straight up vodka in thier ladas ?
sam 😂😂😂
You can run vodka in your car all you have to do is tune the carb or fuel injectors to keep it running
And hearing hardbass 😂
Melvin Mims Well 40% vodka does really not burn good...
@@salttatt it does if its hot enough
The Gallons per Acre of land depends a lot on what vegetal you're using as a base for Ethanol. Here in Brazil we make Ethanol from sugarcane, it's fermentation process takes less time and you get about double the amount of fuel/land. Also, we have E-100 ethanol on every fuel pump, great for performance and costs about half the price of gas with about 3/4 of the mileage, so at least a good 85% of new vehicles here come with a flex fuel option (except for diesel trucks and stuffs like that).
I knew race cars were corny
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You made a funny
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“And then the internal combustion engine becomes a thing of the past like my happiness” 😂 Bart always has me dying lmao but I learn a lot! Great job guys 😉
Please do crossplane vs flatplane engines
Yes please
Pretty sure EE did a vid if you're still keen
Here in Brazil I drive a 34 year old Mercedes which uses ethanol blended gasoline for about 27 years. From 15% in 1992 it has raised to 27% today. Not because I have a option (it's mandatory to gasoline here to have between 25 and 27% ethanol), but despite changes in the fuel hoses and a carburetor diaphragm, I don't have a single issue here. The car was once sat for about 4 months and started right away. The carbon build up is really low, the fuel tank is pristine and the carb actually has zero corrosion. But again, it's a carbureted engine, which I could fine tune it to perform with the same mileage to the european or US fuel. Friends with fuel injected ones blame a 30% drop in fuel efficiency. But my point is: Change your fuel hoses (as I would recommend to any old car driver) to a good ethanol-resistant one, advance your ignition timing a bit, maybe a colder plug and test it. I know it's not better than pure gasoline in overall performance but considering the benefits regarding less pollution, it's a very little compromise. Sad to know it's so expensive to make in the US.
Actually you don't need to use a cooler plugs if you didn't raise the compression ratio of the engine.
unfortunately this is possible only in few places in the world, like Brazil where production of sugar cane and ethanol is cheap. I don't see how it could be done in other places like Europe or north america, unless super heavy subsidies (usa subsidize a lot the corn production, to get to 10% ethanol in petrol.)
I hear ethanol tastes delicious.
If you like alcohol :)
Especially the one that they use in cars
Very flavorful. One of the best I’ve tried :)
Well, I wouldn't taste it pure, but with about 40% and some years in an oak barrel I would taste it ;D
Enough to give your chest hairs a perm!
“Combustion engines will be a thing of the past..... just like my happiness.” I felt that 😂
I want this series back !
Shouout to Bart for biting into that corn cob.
Probably sweet corn
I love how Bart takes it a little lighter on the subject of ethanol since there are a lot of people who hate it. Good job guys.
FLEX FUEL
It even works underwater!
Why isn't Phil doing this?
*This* comment
watch out, it will seal your exhaust xD
Wierd flex but ok...
@@diegoalvarezc.8236 Man I just wanna go
I've watched this episode 435 times and I think I might be on my way to cracking the blinking code.
Here, in Brasil we use pure ethanol (E100), i feel the change in my car, it gets more "nervous" with 11 hp more than regular gas (142hp/153hp), our ethanol is made with cana-de-açúcar (sugar cane).
1:15 A very important distinction tho is that an enzyme is a catalyst, not a reagent. So it doesn't partake in the reaction, but it speeds it up.
I LOVE E85! I took my Jaguar XE35t from 340 stock HP, swapped two pulleys and added the VelocityAP tune, and now I have 553hp. No other mechanical changes needed for running Ethanol in the Jaguar XE. This puts me less than 40HP away from the worlds fastest Sedan, the Jaguar XE P8. :-) You can get a used XE35t for around 25K, even less.
Project 8 is fast cause of aero and chassis not power but good job.
Is your jaguar turbocharged or supercharged? Cause e85 only adds a ton of hp in boosted cars
@@2seep probs supervharged if he's talking abt swapping pulleys
Yes it takes a lot of land to create corn that makes ethanol, but America over produces corn
Oof that cuts deep
And sugar too...
You dont know shit about corn production. Dont even talk about it
Ballz Of'steel That overproduction of corn leads to underproduction of other crops
Aidan Barrett ooh tough guy
What happens to this guy ?? Bart did a great job explaining stuff
I loved him, it was my favorite one out of everyone
Another point that speaks for ethanol is that you can manufacture it anywhere you can grow starchy crops. Which is basically anywhere humans live. Oil you have to find and have.
Maybe not so relevant for the US, but if you depend on pipelines and huge ships to get your oil, it looks a lot more interesting. (Considering the ships probably do not use light oil extra de-sulfured, but rather whatever dregs are left in the refinery...)
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Ethanol is actually amongst the simplest fuels. You can create it with water, sugar and yeast. You get the sugar from the corn, add the water and the yeast, fermented, distill it and you have ethanol.
yep, that's how is made in Usa, but you could do it from a variety of sources that can be transformed into sugar and subsequently ethanol. In Brazil is done with sugar cane, but it could be made from every starchy or sugary crop; the main thing is that it has to be as cheap as possible, otherwise it won't make much sense.
Just like corn liquor.
Well, here at Brazil we produce ethanol using sugar cane. At gas stations here, you can find fuel with +90% pure ethanol and we have many cars running it daily.
Yep, higher sugar content in sugar cane yields higher ethanol outputs for a given input. However, sugar cane does not grow very efficiently in the dryer, colder American Midwest.
@@theFailQuail but grows really well here
But its expensive in USA so how can it work in brazil
@@cyjan3k823 Ethanol it's just cheaper than gas here. Thanks to the government investment in alternative fuels we managed to create cheaper and more efficient methods to produce ethanol using the sugar cane.
@@cyjan3k823 producing ethanol from sugar cane is cheaper and more efficient than from corn. Sugar cane grows like a weed in Brazil, whereas the US has millions of acres devoted to growing corn. It's all about economies of scale. Corn is a less efficient input, but it's far cheaper to grow in the US than sugar cane. Brazil simply has the advantage in growing sugar cane and invested in developing the processes and industries for manufacturing ethanol from it cheaper than the US can.
I put E85 in my 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 that is not Flex Fuel compatible it runs great for a long time no problems just smells like Cornish than usual and it does help pass with smog.
I'm so glad this didn't turn into one huge commercial for Shell or some other company!
I am super excited for the potential algae biofuel has for the world. It takes less space, can be grown on salt water or waste water, it produces food as a byproduct, it's completely carbon neutral, and it can be used to produce a wide range of fuels from gasoline to jet fuel. I really want to see algae biofuel take off because myself and many other people aren't ready to give up their muscle cars anytime soon.
Thank you! I've been waiting for a video on E85 from you all. Now I don't have to explain myself over why I'm waiting for one specific pump over the 11 other free pumps. I can just play this for my passenger while I wait.
"High Compression, Precise Timing, E85? Well that sounds like a race car"
I need this shirt.
i need that "no" sound effect
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Ethanol with proper tuning is the bee's knees. Much better partial and full throttle power and even a smoother running engine. (Given you have enough injector)
The MPG loss can be minimized as well because you can run a bit leaner partial throttle and also advance timing.
I drove 60 miles on the freeway last week and got 33mpg on my B7 2.0T on E50.
I modified my 1980 Pontiac LeMans Safari wagon with a 301 and ran E85 and regular half & half, advanced the cam, blocked the heat risers, 160° thermostat, distributor had more timing than the law allows, used my car to haul scrap metal and antiques even with a 2.29 rear end ratio, the smogger carburetor ran way rich so it loved the alky. The only downside was I had to replace every fuel, return, and vapor line imaginable. Got many compliments on the sound of the car like it had a huge cam.
Stop vegans from eating corn
More vigans =less ethanol
= less fun stuf
Howzabout:
More vegans = fewer cows eating = more unused corn = more ethanol = more fun stuffs
@@NicoMyers That is better
@@NicoMyers Cows eat corn?
@@isakjohansson7134 theyre not supposed to, but we grow most of it for cow feed. In my opinion ethanol is the only good use for corn.
@@NicoMyers it was a joke
Sure miss Bart
Here in Brazil, ethanol is a fuel sold normally at gas stations, all popular cars are Flex, run on Gasoline and Ethanol. is a more fuel with lower price. here it is produced from sugarcane.
Here in Brazil also sells Vehicular Natural Gas (GNV) which is a cheaper fuel still, however the cars do not leave the Factory already adapted to use this fuel, the drivers install this kits in specialized companies, mainly the taxi drivers, however there is a the only model that comes from the factory adapted to use GNV, FIAT Sienna Tetrafuel, it works using Gasoline, Ethanol, Natural Gas and Gasoline from Argentina.
@@WilliamACastro hmm.. i'd love to see an episode on LPG/GNV too and how the conversion kits work exactly :)
@@Tylonfoxx I also want to see. Which country are you from?
@@WilliamACastro Denmark... probably one of the least innovative countries on the front of alternative fuel, the worst country to own a car in,
and home of the well-known oil and bunker company Mærsk :D
Seriously... LPG could never lift off here (there's also an explosion danger, moreso than normal gas, so even the EU has problems with it)... we don't even have E85 served at the pumps (unlike Norway, Sweden and Germany). Not all cars are flex, but most newer ones can be refitted for flex... if it wasn't bogged down by taxes. E100 would never fly here... at least for the next 30 or so years because of a controversial state deal with Mærsk...
However, the state has considered reducing import tax (normally almost 200%) on electric cars... and the infrastructure is starting to get solid on that point...
Regular gas (95 EU octane, afaik americans would call it 88) lies just short of $2 per liter and diesel is about $1.50/liter currently... about half of that is CO2 "guiltyness" tax
william castro do you guys get the holden/gm 3.0 litre 6cyl flex fuel engines
I have a flex fuel 2013 Taurus . I only have 1 station that carries it. It's on a navy base. I do have access to it. It used to be more expensive than gas. I used it on and off for 4 years now. Lately, it's all I use. Its 80cents cheaper than gas. Except for a lower mpg, my car is fine with it. Glad I can use it right now because of the pipeline issue.
Weird flex fuel but ok
Now this is epic
This flex fuel ain't it chief
here in Brazil all cars are flex
"Wait, high compression? Precise ignition timing? And dont care about my fuel economy?
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A RACE CAR!!!" Lol
My favorite part ahaha
I remember in The Dukes Of Hazzard The Beginning, Bo put moonshine in The General Lee to get away from Boss Hogg.
you know my favorite part? THE WAY THE AUDIO CHANGES volume UP AND DOWN. Thanks for that. Do it more.
6:00 im a normal jdm fan, I see gt86, I like
Love me some e85, got both the impala and the cadi running on it 24/7. Way cheaper than regular gas too
75% E85 & 25% GASOLINE blended together make a great race fuel..I use it in my classic 1970 Chevelle SS 454 V8 Big Block..Raises my Octane 15 points..👍
These videos are so dope. This guy made me realize how much I like learning about cars engines tires etc
However, the assumption that ethanol makes the air cleaner does not take into account all of the farm equipment used to harvest the corn as well as the refinement process, using straight gasoline In regular driving is a lot cleaner and makes more sense than the ethanol additives. But keep putting it in racing fuel, that’s a sacrifice we’re all willing to make.
You can run farm equipment on ethanol too if you know what you’re doing. You can also create an ethanol burner for your distillation apparatus if you know what you’re doing. 🤷🏽
This is so sad that Science garage is gone this was my favourite show... now I'm stuck watching reruns to get by in life.
This reminds me of alliniol from cars 2
My 1967 Triumph Daytona motorcycle manual shows how to set the bike up to run on E95 and explains that it is much higher octain and runs much cooler and removes water from the fuel system. They thought that over the next few years, petrol would be faced out and replaced by ethanol. My dad ran E95 in his 1937 Harley when he raced it!
I run Methanol in my race car. I also run new bearings after every quarter mile pass. My daily driver only requires a carb rebuild once a month to run alcohol. I add some 30wt oil to each fill up to try and keep rust in my tank at bay. I also use oil with no zinc in my race car but not in my daily driver.
Just like my happiness
A thing of the past
yup... dang
I commited homicide on a freight train
That audible plug between Bart and Nolan was the best plug I've ever seen on youtube; very surreal LOL
My car sat for about a month with E85 in the tank (I had some issues with my tuner) and after I got it sorted and started it was a little rough for about 2 or 3 minutes but after that there have been no problems at all. Switching to E85 was probably my favorite mod I've ever done with any car.
"Flex Fuel" is not another name for E85. "Flex Fuel" denotes that a vehicle can run on various mixtures of fuel, usually anything from normal petroleum to full fat E85 and various in-between mixtures.
I miss this guy
In the 70s, Pioneer ran a funny car on E95, and it could only run for expansion because it had such an advantage! In the early 2000s, Triumph ran a Daytona 675 on pure ethanol for exhibition for the same reason, and it led to the new Triumph moto GP bikes that run on E95
Amazing as I sit here fuming out this Chick Fil A line 🌽
Thank you for being the only video on RUclips to explain Ethanol in a way that answers all my questions
Great content and very well presented, I always use E10, its the cheapest and also higher octane than standard unleaded here in Australia. standard = 91 RON, e10 = 95 RON
Depending what your car was made for, E-85 helps out LATER in the process. First modifications towards leading E-85 is a full exhaust system, starting with the headers, than a tune, a better intake filter, THAN E-85. Not doing this is a waste of fuel with minimal power gain. This fuel is awesome, but not when the weather is cold.
Bart, i told your wife you coming to NY next weekend!
I have a son who works at the local "corn gas" plant. It's one of the most heavily monitored(by the ATF) facilities around. They make sure no one is running moonshine outta there. He gives me 55 gal barrels full of the used mash though...makes great fertilizer and breaks up the heavy clay soil. Also good bear bait!
It's common knowledge in Nebraska that you put straight unleaded in all two-strokes and super unleaded (generally E10) in your 4-strokes
What happens to my car if I mix premium gas with E-85
If it's not equipped with flex fuel sensors, etc. it'll run poorly if you mix more than 15% ethanol content. The effective octane rating of the fuel in your tank will go up, but your ECM will have to adjust the mass flow from injectors to compensate since ethanol has about 2/3 the combustion energy density of gasoline.
BTW most E85 sold at gas stations isnt exactly 85% ethanol. there is always some variance to ethanol content. Some gas stations will have 70% some have 82%, etc. The content matters because fuel maps will need to be calibrated based on how much ethanol is in the fuel mixture.
7% cars in the U.S run E-85.
nothing except better performance. I've run my BMW on full ethynol E85 for almost a year and its fantastic. Those who say otherwise have never used it they just repeat information they hear or read from unreliable sources.
I have a 78 GM Chevette and a 92 Ford Verona, both runnin on alcohol since they are "born" still running fine
Did this guy die? Why don't we get Science Garage anymore. RIP Science Garage guy. ;(
Science Garage these days feels like "Keep it down in the Science Garage, the baby is sleeping in the next room over" - I don't know if this was a production decision or Bart is just feeling low on energy or what, but it's just not the same. :\
He's becoming a dad soon.
No more screaming Bart then
Bunch of people were whining talking about he's too aggressive 😂😂😂 that was the fun part
Noticeable, yes but still just as informative and interesting. You can clearly tell who’s the grownup in the Donut trio.
A bit sad when he says compression engines like my hapiness a thing of the past but also funny. I think he can make a joke out of sad
So in my car I run mid grade, which is regular gas mixed with premium gas, kind of like in the middle. My car runs great on this kind of fuel, with decent mileage. If I were to say add a half a tank of E-85, to my mid grade would this keep the E-85 from separating from it's water at a slower rate? What would it do to the mileage I'm getting with the mid grade?
I'm the nerd here. We have to make ethanol as a byproduct of feed for livestock and inputs for many Agra chemicals. Washer fluid, de-icing chemicals, feedstocks for thousands of products. If we used more ethanol for transport, it would help our obesity epidemic. The tech is here now but it takes leadership to balance out our resource consumption.
Regarding the food vs fuel debate, it's important to note that the vast majority of corn in this country is actually used for animal feed and that the by-product of the distillation for ethanol (DSG - distiller grain solubles) is a very high quality feed for animals, so using corn to make ethanol is not an either-or proposition since the products of the distillation produce both ethanol AND DSG (a feed for animals -which the corn would have otherwise been used for).
If you don't have a flex fuel vehicle you don't have the proper rubber seals or plastics. Don't use it.
Flex fuel isn't an issue of rubber seals, it's an issue of engine management and sensors. Modern fuel systems can support E85 just fine, but they need to be tuned for it.
Also most car engines have long switched from fiber/cork gaskets to exclusively multi-layered steel (MLS) gaskets a long time ago to the point where that is more of a falsehood than a truth. To ballpark, If it was made after 2005, chances are that a tune is the issue.
@@Haloruler64 Yup. You are absolutely right.
Its possible to run E85. You would have to upgrade the fuel system components and get a tune for it. But if you’re saying just a regular car and the owner tries to put in E85, yeah thats a big hell no. Don’t ever do that.
Helped me with a school project thank you donut
While I don't necessarily agree that companies "have our best interest at heart", I definitely am interested in using pure ethanol fuels in hybrid use with electric motors
Bart is great he seems supper chill
When he said "Noooooo," I spit my water out laughing.😂😂
IDK why but I feel like buying a purple mattres with this ad
Here in Brasil we made ethanol from Sugar Cane.
And it works well.
Precise timing and high compression also increases efficiency does it not? Modern engines could run up to a 12.1:1 compression ratio on E85 while current E10-E15 usually run a 9.4-10.1 compression ratio. Higher compression means more heat and more heat means more efficiency, precise timing also means more efficiency and both of those also increase power gains, on top of that, eco-boost cars could run more boost to save on fuel economy.
The ad plugs are pretty clever on this channel
My car gets significantly better gas mileage when I avoid ethanol
That's normal as ethanol naturally burns more efficiently than gasoline. You still save money as ethanol is a lot cheaper depending where you live while increasing the power potential of your engine. It's good for the environment, too.
@@3O2MuStAnG I have a turbo kit on a 3.5 VQ Putting 349 down at the wheel. Not only do I get valve chatter during cold start ups with ethanol but sluggish pedal response all around. And although the price is negligible when comparing the two types of gasoline almost all ethanol laced gas in my area is 15%.
OneTT It really does depend where you live. In Australia E10 is the "cheap" fuel and is generally avoided since most cars run like ass on it. E85 on the other hand is fairly uncommon at the pumps and is usually 40-50 cents MORE expensive than petrol.
@@atomicmillenial9728 is it a question of whether the cars poor performance on that fuel can be tuned to run ok
The better mileage is due to the fact that the power density of ethanol is lower than that of gasoline. So to get same amount of heat out of the fuel you need to use more of it.
Why not grow sugar cane for ethanol production instead? There is barely any starch to convert into sugar, as the cane content is already sugar.
Hey this guy is back!
The problem isn't ethanol as a primary fuel, the issue is corn. Brazil has been running cars on cane ethanol forever, but sugarcane doesn't have to be turned into sugar first- it already is sugar. Fuel/water contamination can be solved with additives, additives that Brazil knows about. A Canadian scientist made ethanol on sawgrass, another sugar-rich plant.
damn i miss science garage
BART TEACH US HOW A CVT WORKS PLEASE ! YOUR THE BEST
This is the one channel that I don’t skip the sponsor, because they’re great 😂 love the vids!
My Benz loves E85 and cold weather. My accelerator pedal has been sensitive lately :)
I have a 2000 and 2001 truck/car put ethanol free gasoline in both vehicles everything has improved.
Gas mileage, overall performance,engine temperatures, reduced idle rpm’s, same Highway speeds at lower rpm’s- drive exact 260 mile route round trip 3X week .
Use all grades from 87 thru 91 octane rates.
Butanol is what we should be using. It can run in an unmodified gasoline engine. And it can be made the same way as ethanol.
As an owner of a 1971 Datsun 240z (twin carbs) Efuel is a disaster, when the fuel is fresh the cars starts and runs just fine however, if I let it sit as little of 2 weeks the fuel becomes useless, the car refuses to start properly and once started it will not run properly, it refuses to idle and drive as it should, I have to drain the gas and put fresh gas into it , problem goes away, strangely, fuel injected cars are not effected by the same problem. Also, I noticed that my fuel filter (the reusable cleanable glass job) keeps getting clogged with what can be described as a very fine mud...color is tan, not sure what that is all about. I'm in Las Vegas so water absorption from the air should not be an issue, As the car is not a daily driver I do not keep any fuel in it, I put in couple of gallons at a time when its to be driven. Its a PITA but it is what it is.
In brazil, since we produce a lot of ethanol, our cars are tuned to run on either gas or ethanol, and even the gas here have a small percentage of ethanol due to government regulations( don't know why).
Why is this not a thing anymore.. I miss science garage
I like voldermorts cameo on fire starting
Good morning from Pensacola beach Florida !
Good stuff . Simple Smart to the point
More science garage! Where you at Bart?!?!
And "slight loss in fuel efficiency when on E85 " Is being very generous!
It's nice to know that it cuts greenhouse gases emissions but upto what extent? It gives how much cleaner exhaust? And why it is not used worldwide in production cars so as to minimize harmful emissions?
E85= colder burning fuel, which= less detonation, which= more boost!! 😍😍
In France ethanol is sold in many gas stations and it is so cheap compare to E10, about 0.60€/Liter which more or less convert to $0.20/gallon. Sure, by running on E85 your gas mileage will decrease by about 20% but since ethanol is 150% cheaper than conventional gasoline it is still a good deal in here.
Here in Brazil ethanol is made of sugar cane and is as common as gas, so every car that is built here has a corrosion protection, since all of our gasoline has some ethanol in it. The more you know *rainbows
I miss this guy! 😢 wish they'd bring him back!
hey! here in Finland we make ethanol from garbage and waste. i have now used 2 years day to day drive with ethanol.
Put E15 aka Unleaded 88 in my car yesterday and set off the emissions CEL. GM says I can run it, but it still freaks out the system. Gonna switch to E85 this summer so I can make more power.