ive got a modified cobra pro which is supposed to be a 1 to 1 shape but no, the viper mini fits like a glove while the cobra pro has a slightly different feel on the ring and pinky finger side
in east asia F1 Extreme is 65 USD and comes with a free atk mouse pad if you get it from a chinese sites like taobao or jd, while hitscan one is like 120 usd after shipping with no 8k dongle
that's why i stick with the pulsar x2h build quality over anything for me, yes i know the clicks are horrible and u need to fix them but after doing that the mouse is rock solid, i love how the buttons have 0 site to site wobble, no flex at all in the shell awesome coating just rock solid
Same here. Modded my X2V2 Mini to remove pre and post travel of my clicks and Pulsar's Blue Encoder on its scroll wheel is just the perfect scroll wheel for me. I don't give a fuck about weight when it's already somewhere around 50g~ line unless Razer releases a Viper V3 Pro Mini though but who knows
@@teefuq ye i wish they would make more shapes with this build quality and coating also got all versions of the xlite but the main buttons feel a bit too lose for me and coating isnt that great
You must be very lucky, as I went through like 4 x2h mini's and all of them developed double click on Mouse1 (on return) within a few days of use, in addition to the known issue with the pre-travel bump. I’m not sure how much of the fault lies with Pulsar and how much with the switch factory, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. I considered ordering Razer opticals to replace the switches myself, but I find having to mod a brand new mouse to a state of usability within my first 2 weeks of using it ridiculous. I'm really glad you had a good unit and it's working out for you though.
actually you dont need to fix shit... all mice from china are like this... depends on luck... are u fuckin 12 years old to NOT REALIZE it is a crap shoot some get janky models and most dont and get the normal one..... stop talking like ur life is everyone elses inbred sheep zoomer
9:30 There’s a huge moral difference between a company stealing pre-released intellectual property to launch an almost identical product before the original creators compared to copying a shape already available on the market.
That's fair and people said the same when darmoshark did more or less the same thing to lethal gaming gear. The thing is ATK and other chinese manufacturers are stealing all the time, idk where to draw the line. ATK doesn't have a single unique shape, would it be more moral to make a 1:1 viper mini clone?
@@boardzyit just depends on whether or not the original designer has already released the shape, after that everything is pretty much fair game as far as i’m concerned. obviously not ideal, but inevitable
Overall looks rather solid. Love my XE and was curious about this one with similar shape and lower button height, though I don't want smaller then XE mouse, mainly grip width. Maybe it wouldn't be an issues in this case, maybe we'll see if I get one. Definitely will get cramps using too small mouse, I'd rather have a bit too big in that case.
Absolutely loving my hyperlight and very comfortable over long gaming/aimlabs sessions. Performing very consistently Also. I must ask though Boardzy did you forget the seal of approval? I don't see how this mouse would miss out on the seal over the Sora v2 and Scyrox v8. Hope to hear back as I value the seal!
Both of these are def seal of approval level, since I haven't had the F1 extreme for a long enough time this was more of an impressions/discussion format sorry for the confusion
Boardzy always got our backs. Not a bad mouse but there was decent bit of “hypetrain” around it for seemingly nothing as usual. It’s fine to call it a good product but some reviews glaze it as if it’s something groundbreaking.
They're pretty similar sizes, but you can feel more curvature on the sides of the XE-s and it's much flatter than the hyperlight. Combined with the huge weight difference it's a different feel/experience
Finally your take on the Hyperlight. Would you say it's closer to the Sora V2 or the OP1? Also, is the sensor on the Hyperlight higher than the Sora V2?
Anyone help me out? I really like the op1 8k shape but I was wondering if there’s anything witless and a bit better. I have the viper v3 pro, and the super light and I just go to my op1 because of the shape
first batch small ulx and i play fingertip, its pretty good. the shape ive been using for a long time, since the month pmm cloned it 😂 and the specs just arent gonna be get better enough to warrent an upgrade for years so im chillin
It's so weird to me how on twitter everybody is picturing the Hyperlight as the better mouse than the F1 Ultimate but then the comparison is just so wrong? People just forgot the F1 extreme released and I have a copy here too and it is SO solid - just replaced my Maya + it's lighter + the F1 sensor implementation is actually pretty insane from what I have seen Really bizarre what kind of hype the hyperlight is dragging despite this competition
The people on twitter making the comparisons have both mice though. If you don't have the Hyperlight, you can't say the comparison is wrong. I have both mice and the Hyperlight is just better. Definitely not $80 better but if you can get it for around the same price, I would definitely go with the Hyperlight.
@@JamezMarti I don't understand how to answer this comment without just asking you if you can't read basic sentences I said it's wrong to compare the hyperlight hitscan to the F1 Ultimate when the F1 extreme exists.
Is there a mouse that matches the Razer Orochi V2 kind of size and shape profile, but is also wireless and silent? Is there anything like that yall idk where to ask but I found out about the Orochi from Boardzy's channel soo hopein for the best
@@caiquu damn, BUT i do know the f1 Ultimate can 100 percent butterfly click, idk about the others, but based on that im guessing the f1 extreme can too.
@boardzy yep i got it from their website instead of aliexpress because it was 69usd (without shipping), for now i game with a frankenstein mouse (glorious internals in a gwolves htm shell)
@@boardzy yep, i ordered mine from atk website instead of aliexpress because it was 69usd(i ordered it on the 2nd day it was available to preorder). Well... i guess for now i'll have to play with my frankenstein mouse (glorious internals in a htm shell, dont ask) btw what really is the difference between the extreme and ultimate version? just the weight?
would you prefer the Hitscan Hyperlight or the Scyrox v8 for a new mouse cuz I am kinda bored of with my G502 x lightspeed? Also would you even recommend the SScyrox for a good budget?
He got bad mad r qc 😂, i got mine mad r major+ and it feel solid. It is a little bit rng if it cames to qc for a chinese brand. But the 2nd batch are way much better.
This is how the “stealing” happens as someone who manages brands with chinese manufacturing: Conversation with company1: Company1: Hello I have mouse design please can you produce it for me? Supplier: Hello yes Conversation with company2: Supplier: Hello we have new mouse design very inovative *sends datasheet and marketing renders Company2: Hello I like. Pls produce 2 40HQ container load Supplier: ok
really can't confirm this I'd actually argue the other way around because the F1 Extreme held up with 0 side-wobble/loosening for me so far after 2-3 weeks, it feels VERY sturdy
@@boardzy My ATK F1 Extreme has an uneven base and side popping. Customer service basically told me to kick rocks. Ordered the Hyperlight, arrived in 2 days with zero issues. The Hyperlight feels more sturdy and solid while the ATK feels more flexy. Best way to describe it is the ATK plastic feels super thin which makes it feel cheap.
just got my hitscan today and added on Obsidian Air skates and for some weird reason it sounds scratchy on the Wallhack SP-004?? 5 other mice using these skates and its smooth as can be with no sound. Almost sounds like something is rubbing? I've tried 4 and 6 skates and same thing :(
Magnesium alloy just feels better than plastic or carbon fiber. Beast X Max is my pick. And the holes actually improve the feel for me but since the mouse is open you have to make sure nothing gets into the inner components.
i prefer the beast x tbh, the max isnt bad by any means just a little too chunky for me for longer gaming sessions, i feel like the mini might be too small though
@@TheNameIsFreddy Lol, I am not affiliated with them, I will even tell you my biggest gripe, it is that when the mouse is in wired mode, its only 1000 polling and you can't use the scroll wheel while moving the mouse whilst wired, and also I had to buy a usb c to usb c because the included cable, while it feels nice, just did not work properly after a month. BUT, this trial and error to get it to work right left me with my favorite mouse.
@@derboss66 bruv they have sourced in omron d2fps, tt gold encoder and kailh side buttons. Bought one build is rock solid using it for 2 months still going strong.
Imagine the creator of hitscan watching this and having a mini heart attack on that pop sound lol
"That was a waterbottle"
Saves his life
😂
thanks for the mouse review, mario
Tf his name is mario?
its luigi
Mamma mia!
The hump placement on the viper mini is just perfection.
ive got a modified cobra pro which is supposed to be a 1 to 1 shape but no, the viper mini fits like a glove while the cobra pro has a slightly different feel on the ring and pinky finger side
bro living in 2015 no one uses this over priced dog shit now... razer is good if u have monkey ass hands and are a shitty gamer
@@LDixonFPS Thanks ATK for making a modern viper mini and a vv3 pro alternative
happy halloween boardzy
as a little individual and 90% claw gripper, my mad r major is just super solid and has no discernible issues to me
"very minor side popping" and its just the loudest thing youve ever heard xD if that wouldve been the mouse omg
most sane reviewer out there, feels like every other channel just goes in circles hyping mediocre mice up all the time
Always the most based reviewer.
in east asia F1 Extreme is 65 USD and comes with a free atk mouse pad if you get it from a chinese sites like taobao or jd, while hitscan one is like 120 usd after shipping with no 8k dongle
I Need help. I just for the Mouse and wanted to Play on my ps5 Wireless. Why does it just work with a wire Not Wireless ? 😔
Both mice are really good
Will you review the atk mousepad
that's why i stick with the pulsar x2h build quality over anything for me, yes i know the clicks are horrible and u need to fix them but after doing that the mouse is rock solid, i love how the buttons have 0 site to site wobble, no flex at all in the shell awesome coating just rock solid
Same here. Modded my X2V2 Mini to remove pre and post travel of my clicks and Pulsar's Blue Encoder on its scroll wheel is just the perfect scroll wheel for me. I don't give a fuck about weight when it's already somewhere around 50g~ line unless Razer releases a Viper V3 Pro Mini though but who knows
@@teefuq ye i wish they would make more shapes with this build quality and coating also got all versions of the xlite but the main buttons feel a bit too lose for me and coating isnt that great
You must be very lucky, as I went through like 4 x2h mini's and all of them developed double click on Mouse1 (on return) within a few days of use, in addition to the known issue with the pre-travel bump. I’m not sure how much of the fault lies with Pulsar and how much with the switch factory, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I considered ordering Razer opticals to replace the switches myself, but I find having to mod a brand new mouse to a state of usability within my first 2 weeks of using it ridiculous.
I'm really glad you had a good unit and it's working out for you though.
actually you dont need to fix shit... all mice from china are like this... depends on luck... are u fuckin 12 years old to NOT REALIZE it is a crap shoot some get janky models and most dont and get the normal one..... stop talking like ur life is everyone elses inbred sheep zoomer
@@teefuq why are u sub born after 2000 kids so bonkers for razr dogshit? this mouse is old as fuck and china has over powered them.
9:30 There’s a huge moral difference between a company stealing pre-released intellectual property to launch an almost identical product before the original creators compared to copying a shape already available on the market.
That's fair and people said the same when darmoshark did more or less the same thing to lethal gaming gear. The thing is ATK and other chinese manufacturers are stealing all the time, idk where to draw the line. ATK doesn't have a single unique shape, would it be more moral to make a 1:1 viper mini clone?
@@boardzyit just depends on whether or not the original designer has already released the shape, after that everything is pretty much fair game as far as i’m concerned. obviously not ideal, but inevitable
nah it's just people being hypocritical as usual, remember artisan "drama"?
@@boardzy As a consumer, IDGAF about who copies who, just give me the best product for the best price
I just ordered and received my hitscan hyperlight. It came with no mouse feet. Someone help.
Overall looks rather solid. Love my XE and was curious about this one with similar shape and lower button height, though I don't want smaller then XE mouse, mainly grip width. Maybe it wouldn't be an issues in this case, maybe we'll see if I get one. Definitely will get cramps using too small mouse, I'd rather have a bit too big in that case.
Absolutely loving my hyperlight and very comfortable over long gaming/aimlabs sessions. Performing very consistently Also. I must ask though Boardzy did you forget the seal of approval? I don't see how this mouse would miss out on the seal over the Sora v2 and Scyrox v8. Hope to hear back as I value the seal!
Both of these are def seal of approval level, since I haven't had the F1 extreme for a long enough time this was more of an impressions/discussion format sorry for the confusion
@@boardzygreat answer great review
@@boardzy Thanks dude appreciate the response and clarification. Goated Reviewer!
review the atk z1 pro plz. Awesome video as always anyway
What is a good wireless replacement for the Razer Viper Mini? Can't seem to find anything I like that replaces that and is wireless...
Asking the same question.... if you find out something interesting, feel free to share :D
anything? are u fuckin blind ENDGAME MOUSE go
i have the razer viper mini for the last 3 years and i am gonna get the atk f1 pro max in a month
Lamzu Atlantis mini has more of a hump in the back but it's the best alternative that I've found for what that's worth.
@@watchthetox7074 lol Ive had my mini for the same time, getting the Lamzu Maya tho, its slightly wider than the mini.
Boardzy always got our backs. Not a bad mouse but there was decent bit of “hypetrain” around it for seemingly nothing as usual. It’s fine to call it a good product but some reviews glaze it as if it’s something groundbreaking.
how about the xe-s is it close shape wise to the mice? curious about click feel as well
They're pretty similar sizes, but you can feel more curvature on the sides of the XE-s and it's much flatter than the hyperlight. Combined with the huge weight difference it's a different feel/experience
Finally your take on the Hyperlight. Would you say it's closer to the Sora V2 or the OP1? Also, is the sensor on the Hyperlight higher than the Sora V2?
Closer to OP1 if I had to pick, but distinctly different from both
@boardzy Okay thanks!
Hey @Boardzy, are u gonna review the Zywwoo mousepad?
seems like a good first mouse
Anyone help me out? I really like the op1 8k shape but I was wondering if there’s anything witless and a bit better. I have the viper v3 pro, and the super light and I just go to my op1 because of the shape
U have enough mice blud
first batch small ulx and i play fingertip, its pretty good. the shape ive been using for a long time, since the month pmm cloned it 😂 and the specs just arent gonna be get better enough to warrent an upgrade for years so im chillin
what dots skates have you used for the atk extreme?
😱😱😱😱😱
Are dot skates good on the f1 cause they look like they don't stick out enough
Which one do you think is a better option for the value the madr major or the f1 extreme?
It's so weird to me how on twitter everybody is picturing the Hyperlight as the better mouse than the F1 Ultimate but then the comparison is just so wrong?
People just forgot the F1 extreme released and I have a copy here too and it is SO solid - just replaced my Maya + it's lighter + the F1 sensor implementation is actually pretty insane from what I have seen
Really bizarre what kind of hype the hyperlight is dragging despite this competition
I guess the marketing worked
Have you tried the Hyperlight?
The people on twitter making the comparisons have both mice though. If you don't have the Hyperlight, you can't say the comparison is wrong. I have both mice and the Hyperlight is just better. Definitely not $80 better but if you can get it for around the same price, I would definitely go with the Hyperlight.
@@JamezMarti I don't understand how to answer this comment without just asking you if you can't read basic sentences
I said it's wrong to compare the hyperlight hitscan to the F1 Ultimate when the F1 extreme exists.
@@lightcore1was a mistake, no need to be rude.
are you going to do a review on the new corepads pro max?
Mines on the way ahhhhhhg
what mousepad and skates do you use?
Is there a mouse that matches the Razer Orochi V2 kind of size and shape profile, but is also wireless and silent? Is there anything like that yall idk where to ask but I found out about the Orochi from Boardzy's channel soo hopein for the best
Zaopin z1, fantech aria
@@Masterful_GG I'll look into it thank you o7
Where did the SHOKING go?
It's only (SHOCKING) if it's actually shocking 😢
Thanksss
Is hitscan similar to razer viper mini wired?
Got my hitscan today, it's so good!
how many click per second do you get with for example butterfly click?
thers like 8 options that are the eXACT same as this for the same price or cheaper.. ur comparing hondas to acuras lmao idiots
@@caiquuTHATS WHAT IM TRYNA ASK
did you ever get the answer??
@@MeltedSlushyyy nah
@@caiquu damn, BUT i do know the f1 Ultimate can 100 percent butterfly click, idk about the others, but based on that im guessing the f1 extreme can too.
why does one needs a mouse so light? honest question
The Lev edition F1 still has not shipped, why claim to ship it in mid october when you're going to ship it in november?
No clue classic ATK, the white unit I ordered from aliexpress showed up pretty quick
@boardzy yep i got it from their website instead of aliexpress because it was 69usd (without shipping), for now i game with a frankenstein mouse (glorious internals in a gwolves htm shell)
@@boardzy yep, i ordered mine from atk website instead of aliexpress because it was 69usd(i ordered it on the 2nd day it was available to preorder).
Well... i guess for now i'll have to play with my frankenstein mouse (glorious internals in a htm shell, dont ask)
btw what really is the difference between the extreme and ultimate version? just the weight?
Weight and coating
Would you say this mouse feels thinner than the beast x?
So this or cyprox v8 or mqd r major ??
love youu
have you gotten the harpe ace mini yet? shape looks nice, maybe the first good asus mouse 😭🙏
I finally got one you can actually see it on camera, it's honestly not bad but somewhat clunky feeling. I think all asus mice are cursed with that
asus mice are great fym
you forgot to add "(shocking)" on the video title 😐
GOD BLESS THE CHINEESE (try the new x1 ultimate)
didnt even get the THIS COMPANY STOLE THE MOUSE SHAPE *VER FUCKING SHOCKING* title
The waterbottle man...
Waitting for affordable hts plus 8k clone ~35g , hope atk clone the shape
ATK F1 Extreme or Scyrox V8
Just got my atk F1 extreme + atk 99g pro mousepad as a combo, paid 87€. They both are amazing
would you prefer the Hitscan Hyperlight or the Scyrox v8 for a new mouse cuz I am kinda bored of with my G502 x lightspeed? Also would you even recommend the SScyrox for a good budget?
He got bad mad r qc 😂, i got mine mad r major+ and it feel solid. It is a little bit rng if it cames to qc for a chinese brand. But the 2nd batch are way much better.
did u go trick or treating
xm2w review when
SEA is 70 usd for F1 extreme vs 160 smth usd for hyperlight 😂
Thats a simple choice lmao
This is how the “stealing” happens as someone who manages brands with chinese manufacturing:
Conversation with company1:
Company1: Hello I have mouse design please can you produce it for me?
Supplier: Hello yes
Conversation with company2:
Supplier: Hello we have new mouse design very inovative *sends datasheet and marketing renders
Company2: Hello I like. Pls produce 2 40HQ container load
Supplier: ok
you prefer this or maya x?
Maya X due to the shape working better for my hands
@@boardzy maya x of fnatic version or the normal one?
Atk for me and i have all of these mouse also i would rank maya x the lowest
@@AverageJamaL170 they are the same
@@shiion6711 I have no hand pain with Maya X and I do have it with other small mouse
Idk about this one. I have the Hyperlight and the ATK F1 Extreme. Hyperlight definitely has better implemented clicks and build quality.
Explain how the build quality is superior
really can't confirm this
I'd actually argue the other way around because the F1 Extreme held up with 0 side-wobble/loosening for me so far after 2-3 weeks, it feels VERY sturdy
@@boardzy My ATK F1 Extreme has an uneven base and side popping. Customer service basically told me to kick rocks. Ordered the Hyperlight, arrived in 2 days with zero issues. The Hyperlight feels more sturdy and solid while the ATK feels more flexy. Best way to describe it is the ATK plastic feels super thin which makes it feel cheap.
@@Sparticus619 Have you ordered right on release? Heard especially day1 F1s had issues like that
@@lightcore1 Why does it matter when I ordered the product? Does that mean all the early customers have to eat shit?
The hyperlight is too expensive, they go for maya x price without taxes and i doubt it would be better than it
What mouse skates should I use for a artisen hien pad?
Better mouse for claw is the OP1 8K if you can deal with the wire. The OP1 has a smaller hump.
Can this mouse Double click
just got my hitscan today and added on Obsidian Air skates and for some weird reason it sounds scratchy on the Wallhack SP-004?? 5 other mice using these skates and its smooth as can be with no sound. Almost sounds like something is rubbing? I've tried 4 and 6 skates and same thing :(
F1 or v8? (or a v8 engine in a f1 car. I guess this could be an ambitious question 😂)
Lamzu has a mole...
Magnesium alloy just feels better than plastic or carbon fiber. Beast X Max is my pick. And the holes actually improve the feel for me but since the mouse is open you have to make sure nothing gets into the inner components.
i prefer the beast x tbh, the max isnt bad by any means just a little too chunky for me for longer gaming sessions, i feel like the mini might be too small though
@@R3APER-350xxI’m rocking the mini 💀
Nice promo WLMouse
@@TheNameIsFreddy Lol, I am not affiliated with them, I will even tell you my biggest gripe, it is that when the mouse is in wired mode, its only 1000 polling and you can't use the scroll wheel while moving the mouse whilst wired, and also I had to buy a usb c to usb c because the included cable, while it feels nice, just did not work properly after a month. BUT, this trial and error to get it to work right left me with my favorite mouse.
@@vodkastudios4170I can scroll while using the mouse in wired mode
atk f1 extreme or mad r major
u are washed boadzy, no good content like before, we need numbers, sensor, shape, quality of the mouse with numbers.
Please review that mousepad! 😍
There is a indian mouse brand called kreo they released a mouse here with 4k polling for 55 dollars
I dont think a mouse manufactured in india will last long tho
@@derboss66 bruv they have sourced in omron d2fps, tt gold encoder and kailh side buttons. Bought one build is rock solid using it for 2 months still going strong.
overpriced if you compare them to chinese mouse and still doesn't beat them
f1 Extreme or Beast x mini?
f1 extreme
Works on console ?
Is that like a thing to get a mouse for console??
Lame ahh
op1 or atk f1 extreme, bruh
First?
I just got the hitscan and have been waiting for your review. I absolutely love the mouse I like it a lot more than my ULX
this literally is just a pulsar clone like most of china reeeeeeeeeeeee
too high for me, the wlmouse beast x mini has spoiled all mice for me lol