[MKW TAS] Luigi Circuit (Supergrinding) -
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- This is a tool-assisted speedrun. This time will not count on any real-time rankings. Done on Dolphin 5.0 with savestates, slowdown, frame advance, TAS code, TAS Input, RAM watch (created by Swarejonge), and TASToolkit Lua Scripts (created by LuigiM).
TAS BKT Cut: -3.593
Previous BKT: • (TAS) Luigi Circuit (S... (by Malleo, Monster, Rocky, and Thomas)
After over 8 months of work, my largest TAS project has finally been completed. It's incredible to me just how far we were able to push this track, and I feel that every collaborator on this project is honoured to be able to present it. I'd like to thank Ejay, Kierio, Malleo, and Thomas for helping in the creation of this run. They've all been great partners in assuring the quality of this run.
Ejay: / @ejayb
Kierio: / @kierio04
Malleo: / shwamalleomk
Thomas: / @mkwiitomas
This TAS improves upon every aspect of the previous TAS and makes use of several routing changes. The most prominent of these changes is the new supergrind that is used across all three laps. The timesave from this supergrind mainly comes from it allowing us to travel down the straightaway before the ramp at a consistent 120-119 km/h. Further, it gives us a seamless transition into a fast ramp trick that conserves most of our speed from the supergrind in the air and allows us to accelerate back to full speed upon landing due to the trick boost. This essentially nullifies the lap 1 and 2 shroomspot in the previous TAS.
For those wondering, the supergrind can't be performed shroomless since it can only be properly performed by using the slope of the off-road. There's currently no known way to set up the supergrind using the curb alone, and so we're forced to use a shroom. Since we can still perform the ramp trick shroomless though, this really doesn't matter that much for laps 1 and 2. For lap 3, however, the previous TAS's shroomspot changes to the final grass cut. As it turns out, using this new supergrind on lap 3 in combination with the pre-existing SG is actually faster than using the grass cut overall, which makes this the first ever Luigi Circuit TAS to not use the ending grass cut at all.
Aside from the new supergrind, there have also been several improvements made to the old supergrind. For starters, we start the supergrind on the 2nd boost pad as opposed to the 3rd, which allows us to take the final turn tighter. We also make heavy use of a trick called softgrinding on the following straightaway. This trick simply involves us turning at a slower rate during a supergrind by using a less sharp angle on the control stick. This allows us to turn significantly slower while still conserving our supergrind speed, which is perfect for straightaways. At the end of the old supergrind, we use a precise series of hops and bounces to conserve the majority of our speed while simultaneously adjusting our angle for the new supergrind setup. At the end of lap 3 specifically, we cut off our final supergrind early in order to maximize our horizontal speed by spindrifting to the left to end off the run.
I'm extremely satisfied with how well this run turned out. Since pretty much every strat is new to some extent, it is hard to tell if it's perfectly optimized, but if it's not, it's pretty damn close. I doubt that a 1:02.3xx would even be possible, but honestly, who knows at this point.
Special thanks to Ejay and Malleo for helping to record and edit this video, and thanks to WhatIsLoaf for creating the program that allowed us to record the input display overlay for this video. And also, since this video is releasing on his birthday (April 13th), happy birthday Malleo! It was a pleasure working with you on this!
Music:
Laps 1 and 2: Octopath Traveler - Battle I
Lap 3: Octopath Traveler - Decisive Battle II
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Happy birthday Malleo!
🥳
Pretty great birthday present if I do say so myself
Only 1.650 seconds of this TAS was driven under 90km/h... absolutely crazy.
Wasn't all of it from the first corner?
@@kikimuscles3915 Yep, and the very beginning of the race
And the start too
and the race start to
and the beginning too
So glad that the run is finally finished. It was a pleasure to assist - the TAS looks phenomenal!!
Ejay B was this the big thing you said on your delfino square video?
@@MkwiiBen Nope, the big thing should be out within the next 2 weeks.
Ejay B that’s awesome can’t wait
👀
Black
Oh btw, I forgot to mention this in the description, but we were actually decently close to this run not saving the ghost. The reason for this is that under normal conditions, the game is able to compress held inputs (inputs held for consecutive frames), but it is not able to compress alternating inputs that change every other frame. Since supergrinding usually requires frame perfect alternating of both the drift button and the control stick, and the TAS has six supergrinds in it, we would essentially be overloading the ghost file with more inputs than it could handle if we supergrinded for too long. This is also the reason why ghosts never save on a run over six minutes in length: to make sure there aren't too many inputs in the ghost file. Luckily, we didn't ultimately have to worry about this in the end, but had we supergrinded for another 6 seconds or so, there would be no way to save the ghost for this run.
Jellopuff nice save
Ah, so this is also the reason why ghosts are hard to save on difficult, long cts when using the wii wheel?
Jesse what has the wheel got to do with it
Kierio04 In my experience, since there is a wider range of horizontal inputs, and since you use your whole arm to control the motion/inputs on the controller, it is much harder to keep a perfect soft drifting angle, or a perfectly neutral wheelie. A controller like classic can lodge the control stick in the corner, or simply let go of the control stick entirely to go to neutral.
Jesse Wii wheel doesn’t have extra horizontal inputs lol the game only calculates from 7 on the left to 0 in the middle and 7 on the right
Ok jokes aside this run is amazing. From the time that you discovered the supergrind last year, through the seven months of on and off work, and your week of non stop work grinding out the last 2 laps in two days were remarkable. Like, I’ve never seen any other TASer commit to something that much. You are one of the best TASers we have out there whether you think it or not. I can’t wait to help out with the flap when we get to that point!
Edit: Jellogrind for life
Thanks man! I appreciate your help on this run. And also, I'll get to the flap eventually. Don't worry.
Jellopuff I made sure to put “when we get to that point” because I know you’ve got lots of things to do in between :)
malleo and jellopuff would make mellopeo
Elims malleopuff
Kierio04 😑
This game just turned 12 years old and we're still getting insane runs like this. Amazing work :)
Now already 14. I think i dont want to check.
@@larrylangy2392now 16 years old
This is the most crazy thing I’ve seen in this game. Happy Birthday Malleo!
This looks insanely awesome and I was not expecting a 3s cut on luigi circuit and good job to all of the TASers
Also happy birthday Malleo :)
this is the definition of a TAS. Things are happening that you don't understand and you're sliding across the ground sideways at mach 1 while vibrating violently.
relatable
wtf
congrats on the massive time cut
also happy birthday Malleo
wow this is insane thats way more than i ever expected when i discovered super grinding and even way more than i expected when i released it 2 years later, can't wait to see where we go from now with this
ok boomer
Wdym when you released it 2 years later
i had the initial discovery in late 2012 but didn't play around much with it, when I got bored in 2014 I played around more with it and found a way to make it faster for a LC flap and thats when i released it
Blackyboi39 oh k
Yeah, it's pretty cool. To bad you weren't able to manipulate quantum states to deactivate the offroad for us :( If only we had a tutorial.
I'm really Excited that Monster is TASing this track and making it more Optimized
wtf this is crazy hahaha, awesome job all of you!
At this point it's just unedited footage of Season 1 Initial D.
Lmao you're kinda right actually
@@Jellopuff_TAS I'm incredibly surprised anyone got this reference, let alone this quickly
INFORMATION
There were about 3524 and a half A presses during this speedrun.
@@maxdragonsoul5553 Incorrect. There was exactly one A press in this TAS.
I'm happy to see that in 2020
Amazing job all!
astonishing run. mindblowing stuff
so now we're just sliding sideways the whole time instead of driving i guess
Mario Slide Wii
He is too cool to drive normally, he slides.
great tas, the ramp strat is awesome
3.5 seconds cut on such a short track? I was definitely not expecting this lmao
insane run, nice job!
This is insane!
3s+ cut, what a day to see this 😊
this track is practically just a giant supergrind now
Litteraly.
I only expected This Track to go up to 1:04 but you managed to get it up to 1:02! GL on improving this :)
Bruh 1:02 never seen that in a million years.
Also happy late birthday Malleo✌✌
Holy crap what a time cut happy easter mates
Amazing!
what the actual fuck, amazing job guys!
also hbd malleo!
Girls group projects:
“It should be like this!”
“I hate you!”
Boys group projects:
This is very not correct.
@@Jellopuff_TAS idk, our boy group projects tend to go sideways very fast
Huh, smart
@@irok1 I see what you did there
this is... outstanding!
すご
Best. TAS. Ever.
although I’m not in it it’s in my full right to say it... TAS GANG FOR LIFE
My jaw was underground this whole run! Crazy!
This game will never cease to amaze
Now THIS is what I call a TAS!
This was the OG firehopping
Incredible achievement!
I have no words to describe this TAS, I know that I say fantastic or wonderful is not enough... Good luck for upcoming TAS
I apologize for my English... I don't talk about it often but I hope I've made it clear that I love it when you do TAS with other players creating a harmony in a game that for many is for kids, I still apologise for my bad English.
This TAS has become one of my favorites! Congratulations! 🎉
amazing run!
When you are to Funky for physics!
This is still a strong record
HOLY shit
Just amazing
insane bkt cut
Utterly insane
wow it's crazy
i like it
genius. great job.
I thought this was an April Fools joke that showed up late on my Twitter timeline.
It wasn't.
Haha Funky go brrrrrrrrrrrr
Insane.
Nothing more to say
Reject humanity, return to TAS Funky Kong
Non-Stop Supergrinding !
GG
amazing wow
this is awesome, i wonder if sub 1 will ever be possible
nice job, your like mushroom speed all the entire lap nice job
Epic
The yellow grass cut is no more
No Glitch TAS: I'm a joke to you?
@@jamie.3027 No
Some crazy shit
the supergrind sounds like the signs from Final Rush in SA2
someone needs to overlay running in the nineties or something like it onto this.
This is kinda insane ngl
I've seen it all now XD
0:18 I got a question how is this possible how do you execute it?
こんなに更新することある？
あと数年したら1分きりそう
My Happy with 1:30 sec.
Seeing this video...
how can you get 1:30? the world record is 1:08:774
YOOOO
0:17 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
カニ走法こんな強いの…？
かに走法ってどうやるんですか？
@@shunnosukejinbo9688ドリフトボタンを超連打
@@akkiy146san
解説動画みたいなの出てますか？
@@shunnosukejinbo9688 解説動画が上がってるかどうかは知らないですが秒速60回ドリフトを連打すればできるらしい
鉄道mad素材箱の予定 AとB連打ってなんかブォーンみたいな音なるやつじゃなかったっけ（語彙力）
brother: if i win, i get to delete your biggest minecraft world!
me:
Supergrinding circuit
So, this may sound like a dumb question but, there were a couple moments where you went over 120km/h, and I thought MKWii had a 120km/h speed cap. How is this possible?
Vehicle speed cannot exceed 120 kmh, but absolute xyz speed can in some situations. This can be found on places like halfpipes, clipping out of a wall, and sg ejections.
haha r button go brrrrr
wow
01:20 THVT3
I agree
they got the sub 1:06
Wow
What in the actual world
Boing
Imagine if in 2010 someone told u the fastest way to drive luigi circuit is without wheelies or miniturbos
LOL that's crazy
You won
シンプルにヤバイ
What has this game become
Wiw
0:18 Me:！？
i JUST got recommended that video
Alright, now you can get back to work on that CM no-ultra TAS ;)
TheGreenNinja patience lol there’s like 20 other projects he has on his plate as well... that will happen eventually
CM No Glitch matters more to me right now
Damn
This is insane, I don’t you how you guys do it. I love this
And just curious how old is Malleo?
He's 21 now.
@@Jellopuff_TAS Wow only 6 months older than me
I'm a big fan of the Mkw TAS community so I give my best to him and you and everyone else involved.
@@Tartaggz So you're like 4 years older than I am lmao But yeah, thanks dude :D
@@Jellopuff_TAS No problem man. And it gets even funnier because my sister is almost exactly 4 years younger than me so she's your age lol
AOS don’t you DARE call me a fucking boomer 🤣🤣
This is just ridiculous. You guys found a second super-grinding spot and in the process completely obsoleted the ending grass cut. I never thought I would see the day when the ending grass cut was not used in a TAS.
I was pretty surprised too ngl
I wonder if this track will be subbed under a minute 🤔
Why didn’t you use the Luigi circuit ultra shortcut?
There currently isn't an Ultra Shortcut on LC. That video I made showcasing it was an April Fools prank.
Jellopuff haha I think at the time I wasn’t sure whether it was real or not.
The only way I can even conceive of improving this is to somehow start the lap 3 SG shroomless and do the regular cut at the end, but I can only assume that yall tried that.
Yeah, we tried that. It's just not possible to do that SG shroomless.
本来のマリカの走り方が消え始めてる…？！？
I think its possible to clip off the right pole on this track at the beginning
How do you get the controller thing at bottom right
僕も… 連打機能を使えば… この動きが出来るのかい??
jellopuff carried everyone else on his/her's back (i don't know his/her's gender ok pls don't bully me)
zuils he just decided to do 2 entire laps in 2 days all of a sudden and we couldn’t help because it was already finished
@@Kierio04 ah ok thanks for the info
What.In.The.Actual.Fuck.