Winsor&Newton's Prussian Green - Discontinued Paints Ep. 01
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- W&N Watercolor paints at Jackson's (for their Prussian Blue): bit.ly/36nsufB
PY109 - Isoindole Yellow
Roman Szmal's Aquarius - Isoindolinone Yellow Light: bit.ly/481Ej8A
Turner's Permanent Lemon: bit.ly/4bmieoa
Almost every brand has a PB27 (Prussian Blue), you probably already have one! ;)
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The Prussian Green painting is gorgeous. So much variation and shading and granulation, and so much mood in how you used it--the perfect scene for the colour. Now I wish I could get a tube 😊
Thank you so much!! I'm fully planning on getting the RS version of the yellow so I can mix it myself, when I'm done with this tube. :D (I hope you've been doing good!!!!)
Interesting! My local art store carried W&N, but they did not sell well, so they have quite old stock and vintage paints. I got my Quin gold and lead yellow there.
Lead yellow!!! Wow! Almost need to seal that one in resin or something to make it safe to handle! XD
Hello Eve, I just received a used set of WN watercolors that included Unused half pans. One of the colors is Prussian green and there was no information about pigments for this color. It was good to see your video. It looks like a wonderful shade.
Sad it’s gone, but thanks for the pigment info to recreate it. I think this paint would be great for forests or misty landscapes. Thanks for sharing this info😘
Forests and misty landscapes, that's definitely the color for it!! It has such a good, moody quality!
Hi Eve, Nice painting. I like dark moody blue-y greens. Sounds like there's some fun experimenting to do with Prussian blue and transparent yellows. Thanks for highlighting this intriguing hue. Have a good weekend.
Hi Sally! Thank you so much! I like dark, deep, moody blue-greens too and I feel it's a color that's often missing from a lot of watercolor ranges. I know I can mix it myself, but the convenience factor can be really important for a color that I see myself using a lot!
Ive started to transition over to using the Sennelier professional from the windsor and Newton just for the better range of green tones! If windsor started bringing these vintage colours back into the range id probably move back.
I feel like greens are so often a sad color category in most ranges... It's always the same 5-6 greens.
@@EveBolt I did a little digging around and I found the pigment information for the prussian green (I also brought the only tube of it I could find anywhere for £15.55 Aprox $19 usd not sure if I've been ripped off or not but I absolutely had to have it.)
Prussian Green-PY109, PB27
Do you know when this colour was discontinued? I've become quite fascinated. 😅
I have had many solid W&N vintage paint tubes, and the paint left inside when I cut it open was fabulous. Never regretted buying it.
Definitely agree with you here. That's one of my favorite things about watercolor. If anything, the colors almost keep better that way, when it comes to vintage paints. And vintage W&N go back to when their paint was at their best so it's almost always worth getting those rock solid tubes XD
@@EveBolt Yes! I had a fabulous garage sale find.
It is very pretty. I have a similar color from Paul Rubin’s called turquoise dark and I’m excited to use it.
Ooooo, that sounds lovely just from the name! :D I hope you'll have fun painting with it!
Daniel smith makes a Prussian green of that shade!
What a beautiful color. That granulation is superb!
Yes! I'm not sure if it'll have granulation throughout using the whole thing, but it makes for a gorgeous first swatch :)
It is pretty. Personally, I don't use Prussian Blue in any of my finished artwork. Nor do I use any mixtures including it. I simply can't be sure that it is lightfast. Antwerp Blue PB27 was tested by Teoh, and it faded. I do love the hue very much though, so that saddens me.
It is a very unique hue and I agree that it's sad to cut it out completely. I understand that it's not lightfast but I'm not concerned by that fact. (Especially for sketchbook work! ;) )
noooo i love this color
Beautiful colour, and I love your painting! A couple years ago, I found some of my old tubes of Winsor and Newton paints from my early days of painting (early '90s), and I was surprised there was no pigment info. Thanks for the video. 🥰
Actually, I think it was the late '80s. Ack, I'm old! 😆
Yeah! I was surprised too when I looked at these vintage tubes! Some will have the names of the pigments (like, azo something, etc) but most just have nothing. Doesn't make it easy for us to figure it out XD
I think that the W&N range needs this colour. I use Daniel Smith Prusdian Green today but would buy this one if they started to produce it again.
I agree! There aren't that many greens available in most watercolor ranges, and rarely a deep blue-green like this!
It is a very beautiful color! The DS version is also very beautiful! I am tempted to buy it!
....But before I do, I am going to try to mix it because I have PB27 (Prussian Blue) and PY97 (Hansa Yellow Medium). I try to only buy single pigment colors and do my own mixing-unless I absolutely can not achieve the color or it is a color I use A LOT.
Thanx so much for sharing this beautiful vintage color!
Thank you! And yeah, try mixing it first! You should be able to get a gorgeous range of greens this way. And if your paints are from tubes, you can make your own convenience mix once you're set on a ratio you like :)
Looks sort of similar to aqua green to me. Always love a good paint recovery!
I really need to check that one out and film a little comparison! Completely forgot about this color when I was making the Prussian green page, oops XD
Historically, Prussian Green was made of PB27 and NY24 (Gamboge). If I may ask, where did you get the pigment information from, please?
Oh! hm, I have a spreadsheet that lists the old W&N colors with the pigments, I think most came from asking W&N directly..? (But I got the spreadsheet from a friend, so I don't remember clearly where these come from). Also, when this one was made, I don't think we still had genuine Gamboge readily available...? So that would explain the pigment switch.
@@EveBolt Actually, W&N stopped making genuine Gamboge back in 2005. That’s not too long ago for us old timers.
Such a gorgeous colour
I really like the colour and your painting too! I am tempted to find the yellow by Roman Szmal and mix it with PB29 to start experimenting. It is a great colour for monochromes.
I agree! Though you can also try it with any yellow you already have :) (Make sure you're using PB27 and not PB29... It's probably a typo, but there's also such a difference of hue between these two colors.)
@@EveBolt that is a great tip, thanks, Eve!
Hmmmm… I’m not first! Must be one of those rips in the space-time continuum 😂😂.
Yeah!! This is almost unsettling XD
@@EveBolt 😆😆😆😆
this is so stunning, I love it ☺☺
Thank you so much! :D It's such a pretty color!
Could you put the paint in a mortar and pestle, grind it up then mull it out with a bit of gum Arabic, maybe a bit of glycerin to reconstitute it? It’s so pretty.
Lovely colour! I personally prefer Schmincke's Prussian Green, as its made with the more stable/lightfast PB60, yet is a similarly lovely colour. WN have a newer colour called Aqua Green that's probably the closest to this, if a bit more vibrant, as it's based on a phathlo pigment.
I need to see if I have Aqua green, so I can swatch it to compare! I'm not really bothered by the lightfastness of PB27... I've never ran into any issues with it and I'm not likely to put any painting in such harsh lighting that it eats away the color :)
Sad it’s gone
Me too! :(
Would it be possible to reconstitute it a little better by grinding the solid chunks into a powder again with a mortar and pestle and mixing with fresh gum arabic? Or would that "water down" the pigment too much? It's a gorgeous color and a shame W&N didn't try to reformulate it with an alternative yellow pigment.
If you ground it down, as it already has gum arabic, you'd only need to mull it with water. No additional binder needed. It would be a way to mix it better, but would also be a lot of work ;)
How does it compare to Winsor and Newton's Aqua Green Phthalo? It has a bit of granulation too.
I'll have to see if I have that paint in my stash! (I'll make a short about it, if I have it and can compare!)
What a beautiful color. That granulation is superb!