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Correction 2:12 - Corsair got in touch and clarified that they are thinking about implementing fan profiles for the Corsair One i500, but contrary to what I say in the video, this has not yet been confirmed.
thanks for answering my questions - stellar work there , covered the thermals, a different cooler on it, fan positions, sustained loads - long term temperatures - your first video was ok, but this one is the best analysis on youtube of this system now ! 🤘
Great work coming back for a revisit. It's good clarification. Review units are sometimes a mixed bag, as seen in the differences between your unit and Der Bauer's. Keep up the great work.
I think the fact derbaurer only used short boost tests to test temps was an oversight. These 30 min real world tests make a lot more sense to me as the cpu boosts initially then settles over time. Well done Dominic 👌🏻
Absolutely there's always variation especially with thermals. There's a lot of different factors I find I kind of have to average out various reviews to get a good idea.
Your review is significantly superior to der8auer. Additionally, I believe the CPU fans 1 and 2 are positioned there because the airflow flows straight from the side to the top. GPU fan 1&2 too.
Quite funny but most people arent likely to max out their CPU unless they are doing something like x265 software encoding or rendering. The only times mines at 100% is because windows has decided to do something stupid and waste a load of electricity.
For the Mosfets and VRM, i was going to comment but saw that you did actually test in the follow up and i would agree. While they do have a very high operating ceiling - some are tested up to 150c and i wouldn't expect any 4090 to skimp on this area and so what Corsair are doing is probably fine, but in a build of this cost i would say not ideal, what they have essentially done is mount a universal GPU block with all the future downsides that a GPU with a water-cooling block mounted has for a user that most likely if they are buying this won't have the knowledge to navigate the problems they will face, for example reversing the GPU back to air-cooling to make it more resalable, so if they are going down the Water block route i think they would be better giving them a full water-cooling block and the best complete cooling solution rather than a partial solution
I just randomly came across this video 😁 didn't even know there was some debate about my video vs kitguru? At 2:05. Your different temperature result is not due to the fan curve but the different test. You said you ran something like 30minutes of test which means that you ran into PL1 Power Limit of 200W whereas I was doing a short test that uses the PL2 of 240W. Edit: you even show an average package power draw of 190W in hwinfo. So you miss 50W of power which is less performance and lower Temperature. Has nothing to do with the fan curve
Kitgurus first video, people were asking why there were differences between your review and theirs, so they created this second video to explain some things and run more tests. I watched this video from Kitguru last week when it went up and they were saying basically what you just said in your comment - that you ran short bursty tests and they ran longer duration tests so the power demands were different . I dont think they ever said you were 'wrong', just that their tests were different and ran for longer times- explaining a different work load on the processor. They did mention the idle fan speeds due to firmware/bios differences, but not in the context of what you saying.
hey Roman, no debate here - as the other commenter said really, we just got a few comments on our original video about our results, so i wanted to make a detailed follow up showing exactly how we tested. 100% you are correct, as we used package temps after 30 mins, which hits the 200W PL1 rather than the 240W PL2!
...while my takeaway from this vid was that it's just too much of a compromise with the latest processors. I was intrigued by the size/ design of the Corsair One a few years back, when it had minimal fans and Linus or someone couldn't get it to go over 60 degrees or whatever, but I'm not sure that cramming a 4090 and top-end i9 into such a small box makes sense today. Do Corsair offer bigger pre-built machines?
ok, well you made up for the first video with this one - thats a good weeks work and very valuable to potential buyers of the system ! not quite as bad as I thought first time around
Have to hand it to you Dominic that was an exhaustive look at cooling and options. I’ve no idea who thought using those thin fans was a good idea. Bonkers.
Thanks Dominic for this. Seems like it’s quite a complex setup internally this one. The fan configuration makes no sense to me the way they do it but it looks like it would make no difference in gaming. Surprised the noctua didn’t do a bit better but you have limited room in that case liquid seems the way to go.
Kudos to you for revisiting the topic following all the negative comments regarding the thermals and NOISE. Well done. I still think though that for the price, Corsair should have provided a much better CPU AIO, a better GPU cooler design for the VRM, a better motherboard and PCIe 5.0
I'm disappointed you didn't address the issue I raised of usage of the bottom x4 slot, but I appreciate that you have only so much time. Otherwise that was top work.
Hi Quentin - remind us what your query was? I am packing up the system now but I can try to take a quick look and get back to you. appreciate the feedback!
@@KitGuruTech Can the bottom x4 slot be used? Does the cooler on the GPU or the proximity of the bottom of the case prevent it? I had in mind a 10 Gb NIC and a video capture card.
@@QuentinStephens it looks almost completely blocked off, by the GPU AIO tubing more than anything. there's probably less than 20mm clearance between the PCIE slot and the tubes
So are any of the five fans actually connected to the GPU board or the CPU cooler or are they all just connected straight to the motherboard? What if the GPU assembly was replaced with the MSI SUPRIM LIQUID X RTX 4090? Could that AIO’s fans act as push while keeping the top exhaust fans intact for push-pull? Or is there not enough room to mount it all in?
No fans are directly connected to the motherboard, they're linked to each of the AIO using splitters, though there are a few mobo fan headers that you could use. For the Suprim Liquid X, the AIO for that would have to replace the AIO that's currently installed for the GPU
Thank you for the review! On the other hand, the 120 AIO masterfully managed the PL2 240w/200w Intel i9 14900k, a feat even other PCs find hard to achieve.
Really weird actually In Hindsight they didn’t opt for a 240mm cooler. Would make a lot more sense. I assumed on the first video it wouldn’t have fit !
First of all Corsair one i500 is claimed as not only gaming but productivity machine as well that is why choose in favour of intel’s top CPU is the best. As for the question about why not 240 radiator with appropriate fans that is real mystery unfortunately🤔.And finally I hope it was some misunderstanding with relations between fans connection and displaying them in the system.
Seems a bit over the top penny pinching on whats probably a pretty profitable system. They should be over engineering the cooling not doing "just enough".
I think the question should be why Corsair chose to go with power hungry very hot Intel if they wanted to offer "gaming pc"? Why not go with Ryzen 3D? For a gaming machine you dont really need anything above 7800X3D and that cpu is alot less power hungry with more menagable temperatures while being faster than Intel in gaming!? Also why 4090? Is that a "must"? 4080 and 7900XTX would do the job well while consuming less power. It's really sad to see new iteration of One series is mess because i really like styling of that case. I wish they offer something similar for DIY market. Im not sure if the case will lose some of it's attractiveness if they made it just a little bit bigger so you can fit tall air cooler and longer gpu inside.
yeah that is a fair point and one we make in this video - for gaming only, the 7800X3D would make a lot more sense given it's as fast if not faster than the i9, plus a lot easier to cool. there is also a 4080 Super version, but no AMD version for the i500
@@KitGuruTech I think Corsair have some kind of contract with Intel so they cant offer AMD platform based pre-builds. I draw that conclusion because all computers they offered so far use only Intel CPUs.
lol, in the original test you said that the temperatures were normal, and you gave the Corsair 8/10 stars. Only now, when other, reliable testers discovered a lot of problems, you decided to actually check it and change your ratings
the 14900K definitely runs warm, but that's in its nature. the main problem is that the fans have to run at 100% to keep it below 100c. a 7800x3d would have make more sense IMO for gaming only
You didn’t even watch it ! Different fan curves. If you refer to derbauer he didn’t even load for 30 minutes. He was doing short bursty load tests for literally 39 seconds which don’t settle properly over time. Not at all like you play games. Also he didn’t test HALF of what Dominic did. Watch the video then comment.
It’s guys like you who made Dominic do all this testing and to explain what debaurer did wrong which was quite a lot. Don’t just accept what ‘big RUclips’ personality say. This video today is infinitely better and contains a lot more data and situations.
Anyone with any kind of iq after watching this video would have a massive understanding now of what Dominic has done and what derbaurer did. Different fan curves. Short bursty tests v long standardisations. Different testing methodology and layouts. I love debau8er but he messed that article up in so many ways. His testing was not indicative of real world scenarios.
Well that makes a lot of sense. I’m surprised with derbauer actually as he shows 96c on a single cinebench run which takes a few seconds. A 30 min run like you did makes more sense.
They could use 25mm fans rather 15mm fans which always will perform poorly, don't understand that decision of Corsair plus they could use their MegaLev fans
Dont get the fuss - your version had a better fan curve than their version... Also kind of understand Corsair for not letting the end user change the fan curve given what the noise and performance issues it can cause. Inevitably leads to extra support calls.
@@100500daniel Imagine comparing this to that new DeepCool CH160 and having Corsair look you in the face and say, "we had to use slim fans and a 120mm AIO".
We revisited this and went into more detail after our first video - we hope a lot of questions are answered now - let us know your views. Also - please report spam here, we remove it as soon as we can but its a real issue on youtube right now
Correction 2:12 - Corsair got in touch and clarified that they are thinking about implementing fan profiles for the Corsair One i500, but contrary to what I say in the video, this has not yet been confirmed.
Hopefully they follow through with that
thanks for answering my questions - stellar work there , covered the thermals, a different cooler on it, fan positions, sustained loads - long term temperatures - your first video was ok, but this one is the best analysis on youtube of this system now ! 🤘
Sustained loads was the important part
Great work coming back for a revisit. It's good clarification. Review units are sometimes a mixed bag, as seen in the differences between your unit and Der Bauer's. Keep up the great work.
thanks!
I think the fact derbaurer only used short boost tests to test temps was an oversight. These 30 min real world tests make a lot more sense to me as the cpu boosts initially then settles over time. Well done Dominic 👌🏻
Yeah Corsair really messed it up themselves in some ways.
Absolutely there's always variation especially with thermals. There's a lot of different factors I find I kind of have to average out various reviews to get a good idea.
Love the effort you put into this. I for one appreciate you.KG and the rest of the team
Your review is significantly superior to der8auer. Additionally, I believe the CPU fans 1 and 2 are positioned there because the airflow flows straight from the side to the top. GPU fan 1&2 too.
Agree ! It’s much better
Yes I thought at the time his review was just ok but he has this reputation. He didn’t cover half of what Dominic did.
Yes it is. Much better
Yes 💯
💯
Wow that’s a lot of work Dominic. Must be sick looking at that system. Loved the fan analysis and sustained runs
Appreciate the post !
Those sustained tests and other work are really valuable. I think that cooling system considering the space isn’t bad we all.
Quite funny but most people arent likely to max out their CPU unless they are doing something like x265 software encoding or rendering. The only times mines at 100% is because windows has decided to do something stupid and waste a load of electricity.
For the Mosfets and VRM, i was going to comment but saw that you did actually test in the follow up and i would agree. While they do have a very high operating ceiling - some are tested up to 150c and i wouldn't expect any 4090 to skimp on this area and so what Corsair are doing is probably fine, but in a build of this cost i would say not ideal, what they have essentially done is mount a universal GPU block with all the future downsides that a GPU with a water-cooling block mounted has for a user that most likely if they are buying this won't have the knowledge to navigate the problems they will face, for example reversing the GPU back to air-cooling to make it more resalable, so if they are going down the Water block route i think they would be better giving them a full water-cooling block and the best complete cooling solution rather than a partial solution
What a brilliant analysis guys
So much detail. I do like these systems. People miss the point of them at times.
Very underrated channel this. Great testing guys.
Much appreciated!
First time here and I immediately liked this presenter and his delivery, so have subscribed.
The noctua cooler angle was fascinating. Well done !
Thanks
I just randomly came across this video 😁 didn't even know there was some debate about my video vs kitguru?
At 2:05. Your different temperature result is not due to the fan curve but the different test. You said you ran something like 30minutes of test which means that you ran into PL1 Power Limit of 200W whereas I was doing a short test that uses the PL2 of 240W.
Edit: you even show an average package power draw of 190W in hwinfo. So you miss 50W of power which is less performance and lower Temperature. Has nothing to do with the fan curve
Kitgurus first video, people were asking why there were differences between your review and theirs, so they created this second video to explain some things and run more tests. I watched this video from Kitguru last week when it went up and they were saying basically what you just said in your comment - that you ran short bursty tests and they ran longer duration tests so the power demands were different . I dont think they ever said you were 'wrong', just that their tests were different and ran for longer times- explaining a different work load on the processor.
They did mention the idle fan speeds due to firmware/bios differences, but not in the context of what you saying.
hey Roman, no debate here - as the other commenter said really, we just got a few comments on our original video about our results, so i wanted to make a detailed follow up showing exactly how we tested. 100% you are correct, as we used package temps after 30 mins, which hits the 200W PL1 rather than the 240W PL2!
@@KitGuruTech 😬 ah good info. Probably see you at computex?
Yep we'll be there! 😎
Great video Dominic. Thorough testing
thanks!
Great update! Seriously tempted with one of these and this is by faaaaaarrrr the best video on it! Cheers.
Glad you liked it!
I like their design makes a difference from the bog standard 3 fan on the front one on the rear rgb case with a glass panel.
...while my takeaway from this vid was that it's just too much of a compromise with the latest processors. I was intrigued by the size/ design of the Corsair One a few years back, when it had minimal fans and Linus or someone couldn't get it to go over 60 degrees or whatever, but I'm not sure that cramming a 4090 and top-end i9 into such a small box makes sense today. Do Corsair offer bigger pre-built machines?
ok, well you made up for the first video with this one - thats a good weeks work and very valuable to potential buyers of the system ! not quite as bad as I thought first time around
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really didnt get the issue with the first video sounds like people making a storm in a cup of tea.
Thanks for the Revisit. Not the Best Cooling Solution in the World that's for sure - Would Expect a lot More for the Money
For that amount of money it should be cool and silent at same time. Nothing else is acceptable if you are paying top dollar.
Agreed
Have to hand it to you Dominic that was an exhaustive look at cooling and options. I’ve no idea who thought using those thin fans was a good idea. Bonkers.
thanks!
Have they left space on purpose for other configurations?
Brilliant job ! The fan swap out and noctua cooler was fun ! Sustained runs is a much better idea. 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Great analysis Dominic 👌🏻
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Dominic for this. Seems like it’s quite a complex setup internally this one. The fan configuration makes no sense to me the way they do it but it looks like it would make no difference in gaming. Surprised the noctua didn’t do a bit better but you have limited room in that case liquid seems the way to go.
Kudos to you for revisiting the topic following all the negative comments regarding the thermals and NOISE.
Well done.
I still think though that for the price, Corsair should have provided a much better CPU AIO, a better GPU cooler design for the VRM, a better motherboard and PCIe 5.0
Thanks!
It’s not a bad system. I know we have guys here saying it cools like crap but this shows it’s not too bad at all !
I'm disappointed you didn't address the issue I raised of usage of the bottom x4 slot, but I appreciate that you have only so much time. Otherwise that was top work.
Hi Quentin - remind us what your query was? I am packing up the system now but I can try to take a quick look and get back to you. appreciate the feedback!
@@KitGuruTech Can the bottom x4 slot be used? Does the cooler on the GPU or the proximity of the bottom of the case prevent it? I had in mind a 10 Gb NIC and a video capture card.
@@QuentinStephens it looks almost completely blocked off, by the GPU AIO tubing more than anything. there's probably less than 20mm clearance between the PCIE slot and the tubes
@@KitGuruTech Thanks for checking. That's a real shame and another place Corsair really could have done a lot better.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks. Excellent review as usual !
thanks!
Is the cooler on the CPU side a standard Corsair part? Could it be user replaced with a 240mm one?
In theory yes, one of my main suggestions to corsair would be that they do this for the next revision!
@@KitGuruTech Let's hope!
Love the review!!
Amazing amount of work you've gone into with this one! Thought the first video had covered it well enough. Still think it's a bit overpriced though!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dominic. Bravo !!!! What a weird way for them to set up fans 😮
Thanks
Fantastic guys. Learned a lot here
Glad you enjoyed it!
That is for sure the hardest test for gaming
Cyberpunk is a good test for sure
So are any of the five fans actually connected to the GPU board or the CPU cooler or are they all just connected straight to the motherboard? What if the GPU assembly was replaced with the MSI SUPRIM LIQUID X RTX 4090? Could that AIO’s fans act as push while keeping the top exhaust fans intact for push-pull? Or is there not enough room to mount it all in?
No fans are directly connected to the motherboard, they're linked to each of the AIO using splitters, though there are a few mobo fan headers that you could use. For the Suprim Liquid X, the AIO for that would have to replace the AIO that's currently installed for the GPU
Well that’s answered more than I thought possible ! 😂
Good !
💯💯💯
Thanks!
Thanks!
Thank you for the review! On the other hand, the 120 AIO masterfully managed the PL2 240w/200w Intel i9 14900k, a feat even other PCs find hard to achieve.
I heard Corsair cap the power limit to 200, even with a 1000 watt power supply. Is that true? Can you please clarify?
Really weird actually In Hindsight they didn’t opt for a 240mm cooler. Would make a lot more sense. I assumed on the first video it wouldn’t have fit !
First of all Corsair one i500 is claimed as not only gaming but productivity machine as well that is why choose in favour of intel’s top CPU is the best. As for the question about why not 240 radiator with appropriate fans that is real mystery unfortunately🤔.And finally I hope it was some misunderstanding with relations between fans connection and displaying them in the system.
First thing I’d do would be to put in those better fans !
Yes we agree.
Since the fan bracket can take chunkier fans, why didn't they just use chunkier fans? I mean at this price whats the point of skimping?
Seems a bit over the top penny pinching on whats probably a pretty profitable system. They should be over engineering the cooling not doing "just enough".
Good job 👏
Thank you! Cheers!
I think the question should be why Corsair chose to go with power hungry very hot Intel if they wanted to offer "gaming pc"? Why not go with Ryzen 3D? For a gaming machine you dont really need anything above 7800X3D and that cpu is alot less power hungry with more menagable temperatures while being faster than Intel in gaming!? Also why 4090? Is that a "must"? 4080 and 7900XTX would do the job well while consuming less power. It's really sad to see new iteration of One series is mess because i really like styling of that case. I wish they offer something similar for DIY market. Im not sure if the case will lose some of it's attractiveness if they made it just a little bit bigger so you can fit tall air cooler and longer gpu inside.
yeah that is a fair point and one we make in this video - for gaming only, the 7800X3D would make a lot more sense given it's as fast if not faster than the i9, plus a lot easier to cool. there is also a 4080 Super version, but no AMD version for the i500
@@KitGuruTech I think Corsair have some kind of contract with Intel so they cant offer AMD platform based pre-builds. I draw that conclusion because all computers they offered so far use only Intel CPUs.
@@novinovic298 there has been an AMD Corsair One in the past - the a100 for instance
@@KitGuruTech I was proven wrong. Thank you for correction.
So have they just tried to do a bit too much in too smaller case?
Possibly, but there is definitely space for better cooling, such as a 240mm AIO for the CPU with 25mm fans
lol, in the original test you said that the temperatures were normal, and you gave the Corsair 8/10 stars.
Only now, when other, reliable testers discovered a lot of problems, you decided to actually check it and change your ratings
the 14900K definitely runs warm, but that's in its nature. the main problem is that the fans have to run at 100% to keep it below 100c. a 7800x3d would have make more sense IMO for gaming only
You didn’t even watch it ! Different fan curves. If you refer to derbauer he didn’t even load for 30 minutes. He was doing short bursty load tests for literally 39 seconds which don’t settle properly over time. Not at all like you play games. Also he didn’t test HALF of what Dominic did. Watch the video then comment.
It’s guys like you who made Dominic do all this testing and to explain what debaurer did wrong which was quite a lot. Don’t just accept what ‘big RUclips’ personality say. This video today is infinitely better and contains a lot more data and situations.
lol hasn’t even watched the video to see what was tested and shown. Hilarious 😂
Anyone with any kind of iq after watching this video would have a massive understanding now of what Dominic has done and what derbaurer did. Different fan curves. Short bursty tests v long standardisations. Different testing methodology and layouts.
I love debau8er but he messed that article up in so many ways. His testing was not indicative of real world scenarios.
Why not have a 240mm on the side for the CPU?
We did mention they could
Have added a bigger rad with thicker fans. Maybe they will revise it in future.
@@KitGuruTech Would be great to have seen how it performs 💪🏽🙏🏽
@@KitGuruTech Against my better judgement I'm getting one of these soon, what aio would you recommend to replace the stock 120 ?
It’s hard to make a judgement, some say this PC runs hot and loud some say it’s soo quiet and cool.
it's definitely not quiet and cool, i can say that for sure!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Cyberpunk is a great gaming test
Well that makes a lot of sense. I’m surprised with derbauer actually as he shows 96c on a single cinebench run which takes a few seconds. A 30 min run like you did makes more sense.
Yes it does.
Yeah temps don’t settle for a while either. Burst turbo means very little
They could use 25mm fans rather 15mm fans which always will perform poorly, don't understand that decision of Corsair plus they could use their MegaLev fans
The 15mm was a poor choice.
Dont get the fuss - your version had a better fan curve than their version... Also kind of understand Corsair for not letting the end user change the fan curve given what the noise and performance issues it can cause. Inevitably leads to extra support calls.
its look like cpu gonna blow when you push it to 4k gaming the airflow is so bad
Surprised the Noctua got wrecked so hard even with the PL neutering.
Should've used a different air cooler probably. Maybe a peerless assassin mini
@@100500daniel Imagine comparing this to that new DeepCool CH160 and having Corsair look you in the face and say, "we had to use slim fans and a 120mm AIO".
Well they could have tried a few. Think it was an interesting addition for a talking point.
It was a good choice for the room that case has.