8bitdo just can't stop putting out hits! Have a few of their controllers and I'm a huge fan. The Pro 2's design is my favorite, very versatile layout that works for all kinds of games but is especially great for platform-heavy games like Celeste or Dead Cells. With easily replaceable batteries and the new hall-effect joysticks, this thing should be able to last a looong time. Great review Lon!
I also prefer the replaceable batteries. I've had enough controllers die on me over the years that I just can't do without it. Meanwhile, a 10 year old Xbox one controller works perfectly
@@romixfox4287 tbh I think for analog stick heavy games(like tomb raider), the Xbox layout is preferable. The playstation layout is better for fighting games or platformers
My issue with hall effect is not with the hall effect themselves it's the perception of it eliminating stick drift. It does but doesn't. Hall effect only fixes the electronic side of stick drift, it doesn't fix the mechanical side of stick drift. The electronic stick drift is caused by the potentiometer changing resistance which the hall effect does eliminate. But there's also the mechanical side of stick drift where the centering mechanism wears down and the thumbstick no longer returns to its calibrated center (aka the stick has a bit of slop just enough to go outside the dead zone). I'm all for less stick drift, hall effect is key in that. But they also need to look at beefing up the centering mechanism as well.
@madmax2069 but I thought the centering mechanism isn't going to be touching anything cuz the hall effects are magnetic? Isn't that the point? To have any materials touch eachother?
@Clyde-x8s the hall effect which replaces the potentiometers is not the centering mechanism, the hall effect only addresses the electronic side of stick drift. The centering mechanism is the bigger metal box that contains all the mechanical parts that the hall effect/potentiometers attach to the sides of.
@Clyde-x8s there's springs and all kinds of things rubbing against each other in it. So yes, it's going to degrade over time, sometimes sooner than later. The issue wasn't only just the potentiometers, this is what people don't understand. It's not just air inside.
Whoa, had no idea it had motion controls as well. Just got one yesterday and after hearing you say that this is now my definitive Switch controller. The look, feel and performance is honestly so much better imo than Nintendo’s official pro controller.
Both my 8bitdo SN30 Pro+ and Pro 2 non-hall controllers work great with my Onn 4K Pro running Google TV OS for game streaming. I use the Steam Link app on the Onn 4K Pro to play games on my living room projector locally streaming games from my gaming PC in my bedroom.
@@goinginzanemy projector only goes to 1080p and I don't have any displays beyond that to try to max out streaming resolution and framerate of the Onn 4K Pro. I don't have other game streaming devices to compare to but I get better performance and image quality with games like Rocket League via the Onn 4K Pro and Steam Link than I do with playing through a Nintendo Switch sitting in the living room. Looking at the Steam Link options it looks like it goes up to 8k/60 fps. For best performance eg lowest latency and minimal stutters, there's only 1 Wi-Fi jump between my gaming pc and my Onn 4K Pro. I have my gaming pc connected via ethernet to 1 node of my Eero 6 mesh network, and I have the Onn 4K Pro connected to the only other Eero 6 mesh node via a 1 Gigabit usb dongle and ethernet cable. If I don't connect the Onn 4K Pro using ethernet and use the Wi-Fi 6 on the Onn 4K Pro instead, the Steam Link network test doesn't perform as well on my network. For anyone using the Onn 4K Pro I highly recommend using the free version of the Projectivy Launcher for Google TV OS that Lon has talked about on this RUclips channel.
Steam Link settings allow for up to 8K/144 fps. I'm guessing that is dependant on if your computer hardware and network can handle whatever resolution and framerate. My projector maxes out at 1080p/60 and I have no other displays that can do more than that so I can't test 4K/60 or any other higher resolutions and framerates. I get better performance with the Onn 4K Pro, Steam Link and my gaming pc streaming from my bedroom for games like Rocket League than I do with a Nintendo Switch directly connected to my projector playing the same game. Important information, I get good performance using only 1 Wi-Fi hop in my network. The gaming PC is connected via ethernet to an Eero 6 mesh network node and the Onn 4K Pro is connected via 1 Gigabit ethernet USB dongle and ethernet cable to the only other Eero 6 node in my network. When I tried using 2 Wi-Fi jumps, with the Onn 4K Pro connected by Wi-Fi instead of ethernet, the Steam Link network test showed less consistent performance results. If you use the Onn 4K Pro for game streaming I highly recommend using all or close to all ethernet between the Onn 4K Pro and the game streaming host, ie 1 or zero Wi-Fi hops.
@@goinginzanenot sure why RUclips is deleting my replies to your comment. I get good performance with almost no Wi-Fi hops between my Steam pc and the Onn 4K Pro + 1 gigabit usb ethernet dongle, using mostly ethernet connections. Using more Wi-Fi hops introduces noticeably lower streaming performance in the Steam Link network test. Steam Link settings allow for up to 8K/144hz but I can't test past 1080/60 with my displays.
@@dtape I have a question to this controller. So I have read before that the buttons on the right side have too much space, so you can't press multiple buttons at the same time. It's true? Cuz for like rocket League you need to be able to press them with one finger like boost, jump and drift at the same time. This is my only reason I am still holding myself before buying this cute controller xD
I have had the Pro 2 for a few years now and its still my go to bluetooth controller. I have the Ultimate also and while i love it i love the Pro 2 more
I just got a 8BitDo controller with Hall Effect joysticks and it really is a game changer. I didn't know they had the Pro 2 with Hall effect, joysticks, otherwise I would have gotten this one instead. I kind of wish they would make one based off of the Wii U Pro controller, but maybe they will someday.
I bought the pro2 hall one some weeks ago and it works awesome. The only issue was if you pait it with bluetooth and later used the adapter, ypu should unpair the controller if ypu use the adapter or it could have some issues like fake movement and buttons not working correctly.
I love my 8BitDo Pro 2. I can’t help but feel like it has ever so slightly more lag than my Pro Controller. Could just be a placebo! It’s a really versatile controller though, which is awesome.
since both of my xbox controller are drifting, one is left analog and the other is right analog, I think I will try this one, hope it last longer than xbox
The Face Button Layout is backwards Nintendo Theme where it's B A instead of Proper A B. It's also annoying that all but one model have the labeling of the Face Buttons not on the buttons them selves and how the black model that is actually more like dark gray and translucent purple have the letter labeling for the buttons black so it's impossible to see what letter they are in dim light. It's illogical to put dark color text on a dark color back ground.
The no dongle limitation is a deal breaker. Latency is a problem and bluetooth is not as ubiquitous as many might think. The 2.4g dongle is a requirement. No dongle, no purchase.
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8bitdo just can't stop putting out hits! Have a few of their controllers and I'm a huge fan. The Pro 2's design is my favorite, very versatile layout that works for all kinds of games but is especially great for platform-heavy games like Celeste or Dead Cells. With easily replaceable batteries and the new hall-effect joysticks, this thing should be able to last a looong time.
Great review Lon!
I also prefer the replaceable batteries. I've had enough controllers die on me over the years that I just can't do without it. Meanwhile, a 10 year old Xbox one controller works perfectly
Do you recommend this for PC gaming? E.g Tomb Raider and similar games.
@@romixfox4287 tbh I think for analog stick heavy games(like tomb raider), the Xbox layout is preferable.
The playstation layout is better for fighting games or platformers
but there is one problem is... What about GameSir Tarantula?
My issue with hall effect is not with the hall effect themselves it's the perception of it eliminating stick drift. It does but doesn't.
Hall effect only fixes the electronic side of stick drift, it doesn't fix the mechanical side of stick drift.
The electronic stick drift is caused by the potentiometer changing resistance which the hall effect does eliminate.
But there's also the mechanical side of stick drift where the centering mechanism wears down and the thumbstick no longer returns to its calibrated center (aka the stick has a bit of slop just enough to go outside the dead zone).
I'm all for less stick drift, hall effect is key in that. But they also need to look at beefing up the centering mechanism as well.
@madmax2069 but I thought the centering mechanism isn't going to be touching anything cuz the hall effects are magnetic? Isn't that the point? To have any materials touch eachother?
@Clyde-x8s the hall effect which replaces the potentiometers is not the centering mechanism, the hall effect only addresses the electronic side of stick drift. The centering mechanism is the bigger metal box that contains all the mechanical parts that the hall effect/potentiometers attach to the sides of.
@@madmax2069 so that bigger metal box is going to degrade over time ur saying? What exactly are all the parts touching it?
@Clyde-x8s there's springs and all kinds of things rubbing against each other in it. So yes, it's going to degrade over time, sometimes sooner than later. The issue wasn't only just the potentiometers, this is what people don't understand. It's not just air inside.
@madmax2069 what material would make it better
Whoa, had no idea it had motion controls as well. Just got one yesterday and after hearing you say that this is now my definitive Switch controller. The look, feel and performance is honestly so much better imo than Nintendo’s official pro controller.
Both my 8bitdo SN30 Pro+ and Pro 2 non-hall controllers work great with my Onn 4K Pro running Google TV OS for game streaming.
I use the Steam Link app on the Onn 4K Pro to play games on my living room projector locally streaming games from my gaming PC in my bedroom.
How well does the Onn handle in-home streaming? Steam Link maxes out at 1080p/60 right?
@@goinginzanemy projector only goes to 1080p and I don't have any displays beyond that to try to max out streaming resolution and framerate of the Onn 4K Pro.
I don't have other game streaming devices to compare to but I get better performance and image quality with games like Rocket League via the Onn 4K Pro and Steam Link than I do with playing through a Nintendo Switch sitting in the living room.
Looking at the Steam Link options it looks like it goes up to 8k/60 fps.
For best performance eg lowest latency and minimal stutters, there's only 1 Wi-Fi jump between my gaming pc and my Onn 4K Pro. I have my gaming pc connected via ethernet to 1 node of my Eero 6 mesh network, and I have the Onn 4K Pro connected to the only other Eero 6 mesh node via a 1 Gigabit usb dongle and ethernet cable. If I don't connect the Onn 4K Pro using ethernet and use the Wi-Fi 6 on the Onn 4K Pro instead, the Steam Link network test doesn't perform as well on my network.
For anyone using the Onn 4K Pro I highly recommend using the free version of the Projectivy Launcher for Google TV OS that Lon has talked about on this RUclips channel.
Steam Link settings allow for up to 8K/144 fps. I'm guessing that is dependant on if your computer hardware and network can handle whatever resolution and framerate.
My projector maxes out at 1080p/60 and I have no other displays that can do more than that so I can't test 4K/60 or any other higher resolutions and framerates.
I get better performance with the Onn 4K Pro, Steam Link and my gaming pc streaming from my bedroom for games like Rocket League than I do with a Nintendo Switch directly connected to my projector playing the same game.
Important information, I get good performance using only 1 Wi-Fi hop in my network. The gaming PC is connected via ethernet to an Eero 6 mesh network node and the Onn 4K Pro is connected via 1 Gigabit ethernet USB dongle and ethernet cable to the only other Eero 6 node in my network.
When I tried using 2 Wi-Fi jumps, with the Onn 4K Pro connected by Wi-Fi instead of ethernet, the Steam Link network test showed less consistent performance results.
If you use the Onn 4K Pro for game streaming I highly recommend using all or close to all ethernet between the Onn 4K Pro and the game streaming host, ie 1 or zero Wi-Fi hops.
@@goinginzanenot sure why RUclips is deleting my replies to your comment.
I get good performance with almost no Wi-Fi hops between my Steam pc and the Onn 4K Pro + 1 gigabit usb ethernet dongle, using mostly ethernet connections. Using more Wi-Fi hops introduces noticeably lower streaming performance in the Steam Link network test.
Steam Link settings allow for up to 8K/144hz but I can't test past 1080/60 with my displays.
@@dtape I have a question to this controller. So I have read before that the buttons on the right side have too much space, so you can't press multiple buttons at the same time. It's true? Cuz for like rocket League you need to be able to press them with one finger like boost, jump and drift at the same time. This is my only reason I am still holding myself before buying this cute controller xD
I have had the Pro 2 for a few years now and its still my go to bluetooth controller. I have the Ultimate also and while i love it i love the Pro 2 more
@davea.9570 same I wanted the pro 2 it's and upgraded snes for modern and retro games
Still rockin my 2 pro from years ago. Love the damn thing to death as a fighting gamer here.
I just got a 8BitDo controller with Hall Effect joysticks and it really is a game changer. I didn't know they had the Pro 2 with Hall effect, joysticks, otherwise I would have gotten this one instead. I kind of wish they would make one based off of the Wii U Pro controller, but maybe they will someday.
8bitdo Bluetooth Ultimate controller?
I bought the pro2 hall one some weeks ago and it works awesome. The only issue was if you pait it with bluetooth and later used the adapter, ypu should unpair the controller if ypu use the adapter or it could have some issues like fake movement and buttons not working correctly.
I saw that the 8BitDo Pro 2 was upgraded with Hall Effect Joysticks.
Nice! 🙂🎮
…but my old one is still good, such a great controller!
Y2k see through plastic is making a comeback
I love my 8BitDo Pro 2. I can’t help but feel like it has ever so slightly more lag than my Pro Controller. Could just be a placebo! It’s a really versatile controller though, which is awesome.
I use a Pro2 with my MiSTer and have no regrets.
5:05 Do those dead zones get saved to the controller and work on the console and other devices, or it that just on the PC?
Yes it retains the settings in the controller
I remember the last time I watched these videos several years ago. Time passes by REAL quick… :,)
Too quick !
I remember watching Lon's reviews of Chromebooks back in my school days😂
@@okene How many years ago was that? :)
@@LonSeidman probably like 6 ish😅
Is the rumble on the left and right triggers super loud and obnoxious?
does this mean the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth will work on mac now?
since both of my xbox controller are drifting, one is left analog and the other is right analog, I think I will try this one, hope it last longer than xbox
Can I use this with Xbox cloud on android tv (Phillips)
nice video and super awesome controller🤩. but did u update the firmware?
are the triggers hall effect?
No analysis on input lag?
I want to see updated colors in SN30 pro I want a blue like that color
I wish they made the controllers in the Super Famicom colorway again.
@@HansBoopie or the original Famicom. Love the burgundy/cream/black/gold combo.
Does it have software for Mac?
The Face Button Layout is backwards Nintendo Theme where it's B A instead of Proper A B. It's also annoying that all but one model have the labeling of the Face Buttons not on the buttons them selves and how the black model that is actually more like dark gray and translucent purple have the letter labeling for the buttons black so it's impossible to see what letter they are in dim light. It's illogical to put dark color text on a dark color back ground.
Seriously, Hall effect Joystick should be the minimum from now on when it come to Video game controllers.
Is there any other controller thats better than the pro2 ..
Hi, does it work on steam for Mac? Thanks
Yes it does
@@LonSeidman Thank you 😁
The original Nintendo controllers were amazing. You could shoot them through a brick wall and they would still work. 😅
They were tanks !!
I just want this but for PS5/PS4 compat
Very Poggers
If it had 4 back buttons, I’m in. Otherwise I will stick with the elite v2 until it inevitable gets stick drift.
The no dongle limitation is a deal breaker. Latency is a problem and bluetooth is not as ubiquitous as many might think. The 2.4g dongle is a requirement. No dongle, no purchase.
I got one of those and... I noticed no difference at all 😅