Which leg press machine is best for knee rehab? | Feat. Tim Keeley | No. 24 | Physio REHAB
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2015
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Understand what the difference is between a open chain leg press and a closed chain leg press and which one is best in a knee injury rehab program for building muscle strength in the VMO, quads, and overall leg strength.
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Thanks! KEELEY'S helpful KNEELY advice. Awesome.
great instruction and explanation!
Best video so far!
12 weeks out from a bilateral ruptured quadricep tendon. I think this is the exact video I've been looking for! Thank you!
Gee hope the recovery is going ok. My new surgery rehab program may work well for you: physiorehab.com/rehab-programs-acl-knee-surgery-rehab
This is so incredibly helpful for someone with really messed up arthritic knees. I can hardly do a demi plié much less really bend the knee it takes to do squats and lunges. It is SO HARD finding excercises that will work my legs. Thank you!!!
Michelle Loose you’re welcome I am glad it helped you
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Really well explained, I'm going to give it a go on my trashed knees 👍
Thank for this video again after video talked about rehab for Shoulder Press, you're rehab programs are nicely designed.
Great to hear :)
on that machine now....makes a big difference. had a meniscus and cyst surgery last August still feeling pain. doing these workouts, walking etc. best healing.
Hope it improves well
Super helpful! Thank you! I'm going into athletic training and I have to do a rehab outline for a PCL tear. Its hard not being able to use these machines in person to learn how to use them properly due to the pandemic. Again thank you for this video, it really helped me! (:
Great glad it helped
Great vids Tim, super informative.
you're welcome!
Great video man!
Oldie but a goodie
Fantastic video. First I've been able to find to work on my bad leg which is much weaker than my left leg.
Good stuff!
thanks for the explanation
Pleasure 👍
Very helpful, thanks
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my problem is i hurt my left achilles/ankle some months back. i was on crutches for a few weeks, my whole leg atrophied. since then, my left glutes are inactive/dormant, and so my whole gait is off. my left glute isn't firing up and my quads are overcompensating, causing patellar maltracking (its getting pulled up to far into the quads) and straining my patellar tendon underneath. now my patella is really loose/unstable, just barely resting my hand on it moves it around and i can feel it grinding on my femur.
I am presently recovering from some knee surgery. Thank you for your content.
They are both great but i prefer the 180 degrees one because it is more comfortable
You're just brilliant. You're rehab programs are nicely designed. What if one doesn't have the closed press leg machine, could one still use the open chain leg press for rehab?
Tera toma thanks! Sure you can use the open chain machine instead
I do both a double and single leg press. I have a loose knee having sprinted on it 3 years ago. It improved but I still have laxity. Problem with the close chain machine is progress. I can press 100kg for 10 but it is brutal. The open chain has a lot more progress left in the bag. But I do feel the instability in the knee on the open chain machine. Stick to just close chain for both double and single work or do both open chain for double leg work and closed chain for single.
Yes that would work
Tim KEELEY is the best rehab advisor..... I trust him !!!!
Awww thanks !
hi thanks this is useful - only i want to check the closed chain legpress i have - the feet moves and not the backrest
That’s an open chain machine you have there if the feet part moves
Ah great does this help to strengthen weak ligments in the knee. Injury from football years ago but because I never really trained on it since it very weak and easily injured. Will this help to strengthen that and eventually get me back to full on football. Love the vid
It helps the muscle strength and bull but you need to work on knee stability drills for the ligaments
is leg press the best if you had an injury (tearing knee ligaments)?
I’ve been rehabbing my knee over the last two months. I can not get my quad to tighten at any time throughout the range of motion, this also applies to wall/ball squats. The only thing that tightens my quad muscles is the leg extension exercise. Any thoughts about this unusual phenomenon? Thank you!
It’s actually more common than you think. Switch to squats instead of leg press
Great explanation and help! I don’t have a medial meniscus on my right knee and got a stress fracture on my upper bone. Cracked and doing certain stuff was painful. Recovered by not doing anything but now i have to build strength and mobility. 3 acl surgeries same knee and still playing soccer. What should I stay away from that doenst flex my knee in a precarious position?
Just keep working on stability and strength
How is it going now with the recovery?
Thanks for sharing
Paikuhan Sensei well I’m back to playing soccer once a week but i use a knee brace. I gained so much weight, that the knee sleeve wasn’t enough anymore. I will not lie, my leg workouts suck because my range of motion is not all there anymore, so I stick to machines or stuff that doesn’t pass 90 degrees. I can do 30 minutes on the stair master every day with minimal pain, a 2 on a 1-10 scale. When I play, I don’t feel any pain during or after. I do play on turf sometimes and there is pain there, since turf is really bad for the knee. Especially a surgically repaired one. So I can do a full game on real grass, 90 minutes and on turf the pain is bad within 10 minutes. But overall i am at a 60% of what I used to be. I’ll never be at 100 but that’s fine, as long as I can workout and do soccer once a week.
Hi. I watch a lot of your videos and wanted to ask if you have any advice or videos for kneecap exercises to move your kneecap. I am unable to bend my knee my kneecap does not move. Please i hope u can reply. Thanks
Cgh Rios quadriceps stretching and jumping on the Foam roller would be two - and then getting the Physio to stretch and mobilise the tissue around the knee cap
I never knew the difference between the two. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
There's no noticeable difference between the two. This is bs, sadly.
The angle you press in is irrelevant, as long as your legs are in the same position in relation to the rest of your body.
I thought open chain is where you have no vertical pressure through you leg like a leg extension, and closed chain is when the weight is going vertical in a leg press machine. So wouldn't both machines be closed chain?
Closed chain is where the foot is fixed and the body moves away (squats, lunges, deadlifts, seated leg press). Open chain is where the body is fixed and the foot moves away (leg extension, 45 deg leg press, kicking)
I think as much. Ask me after 20 years of bodybuilding with arthritis. Though he is right, any machine that allows for locking out and loosing muscle tension is a no go, but that's more about how you prepare the setup. I can very well do a 45 degree sled leg press and position myself without any chance of lockout.
Hi Tim, what about a vertical leg press? Have you had any experience with that?
You mean a hack squat? Or the one when you are fully on your back ?
On your back but seriously considering the technogym leg press you used here. Any thing you didn't like about the machine or is it a good buy in your opinion? @@physiorehab
I did knees Anterior cruciate ligament operation before 7 months ... Is it ok if i use knees support when i am training ??
Yes it is, but you should aim to wean off supports and work on muscle strength to do the support not a brace
What’s a good machine for a leg that can’t straighten fully? To hopefully acquire that extension back
Some streches, band work with sled and consistency will do the work, machines are used for strengthening purposes
I want to give this a shot i dislocated my knee like 6 months ago and my leg is so weak
Hope it gets stronger!
I have a hard time believing there is any more shear force of the knee in the 45 degree leg press than there is in the upright leg press. Any research/articles to back this up?
jawlineofprosperity Just saw this. You may need to open up your physiology and anatomy textbooks again!
how do you fix bone-on-bone arthritis after you've had amniotic stem cell therapy and it hurts during certain weather and rain and cold how do I work through that
Giovanni Sanchez for your knee?
is this machine good if you have runners knee and want it to heal? or should I just rest completely
You can use it for strengthening the quads and glutes yes
I had a hysterectomy 14 weeks ago and was instructed the leg press machines increase downward pressure on the pelvic floor, which is something to avoid at this time. I had a tibial plateau fracture, and simple scar tissue clean out 2 months prior to the hysterectomy. I need to regain quad strength, any advice as to which machine or how to proceed? I have been skiing already. I have crepitus on the lateral patella area, which returned about 5 weeks into PT post arthroscopy. Now I was stuck on a couch for 3 months recovering from the other surgery. Need to safely return my quad strength without damaging the pelvic floor and increasing my risk for prolapse...any ideas????
Cindy Chorzepa?? You have been skiing already after a plateau fracture can't have too many problems then?
@@physiorehab Fracture was 20 months ago. Just had diagnostic arthroscopy for that 5 months ago, then the next surgery 2 months after. Still having knee issues although doc said everthing was fine, lateral patellar crepitus, stiffness, and pain, no quad strength due to limitations from second surgery and knee flex limited. Just because I went skiing doesn't mean it works proper.
Cindy Chorzepa ah got the fracture time line sorted now.
Perhaps look at building it back with the low level work as your pelvic floor recovers. I have programs thst you can follow for both the knee and the core, have a look at physiorehab.com/programs
One day my knees suddenly started hurting i thought it was because of football. I went to the doctor he did an x-ray and examined my knees and told me everything is okay..After a few days my knees pain vanished.. I don't Know how it vanished i guess because it was because i reduced playing football for a month and my knees got recovered but today was my second week at gym and i did a leg workout and my knees are hurting again... please can you tell me what's the matter and what should i do
Sounds like weakness to me. If you want a full diagnosis you can do a Telehealth session - details are on our website
im confused is he saying lock out? or dont fully lock out?
He said don't lock out.
But what if we do with a 45 degree machine?? Is it bad? For rehab that it!
No it’s not bad just more ideal for the horizontal machine
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The problem with the second machine is it targets glutes more imo. Maybe a hack squat would be safer than the first one.
How is that safer?
Is the rowing machine good for knee rehab
THEIZZ it’s ok, more about hamstrings and glutes than quads - all all depends what you need for your knee
@@physiorehab i fell on my knee and it swelled. But i don't want to skip the gym so i was thinking focus on the rowing machine till my knee is fine
hip abduction machine is also good
What about someone having femoral chondromalecia at 24
Work on lighter loads, eccentric versions and very slow progressions. You will also need other quads and legs exercises to complement. Have a look at this: www.physiorehab.com/rehab-programs-knee-patello-femoral-rehab
Sir knee partial injury
Is that a question for me?
My quads dont want to grow
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that first leg press machine is horrible for your back
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u gonna destroy ur knees again if you don't align feet cuz one knee gets more stress than another in such way
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