My Opinion on Balisong Flipping (ft. Kershaw Lucha 🦊)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
  • It's time, I'm finally talking about Balisong Flipping the youtuber not the hobby though both have the same name I'm not talking about the hobby in general I am talking about the youtuber in specific though I understand how you may have gotten confused with both of them sharing a name and all but I assure you that I am not talking about the hobby in general though I do mention the state of the hobby in general I am talking about the youtuber.
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  • @canaantravis
    @canaantravis 3 года назад +50

    I fully agree will, I'm also from a shithole in Texas and have indeed made many mistakes in my past and have been incredibly insensitive. It's everyone's responsibility to grow as a person and try to become better every day, I think this is something we should all learn from. And btw you have a very mature mindset about all of this, Brandon from balisong flipping is who made me want to start making balisong videos, but you are what inspire me to become a better youtuber and try to put more effort into not only my RUclips videos but being a better person in general!

    • @meh6953
      @meh6953 2 года назад

      Haha El Paso, Texas aka crap hole 😆😂

    • @ortanicallity
      @ortanicallity Год назад

      @@meh6953 what?

  • @lehoangcongtien9081
    @lehoangcongtien9081 3 года назад +47

    Everyone: talking about drama in balisong community
    Me: his tricks r smooth af

    • @biaxolotl5171
      @biaxolotl5171 2 года назад +1

      Yes

    • @ooffoo7211
      @ooffoo7211 2 года назад

      No I’m just over here wondering why is he painting his nails

    • @biaxolotl5171
      @biaxolotl5171 2 года назад +4

      @@ooffoo7211 cause it looks great on him?

    • @VerbenaIDK
      @VerbenaIDK 2 года назад +2

      @@ooffoo7211 because he likes it and it looks really good in him

    • @VerbenaIDK
      @VerbenaIDK 2 года назад

      i am just looking at this and kinda remembering how much all communities are kinda similar and all have a pretty much pre determined fate that as it grows it gets more and more toxic and more assholes join the comnunity
      i know atleast one example of this most people pobably know but there are so many i pobably came qcross that are like that and i just ended up forgetng

  • @babeegotbackproblems
    @babeegotbackproblems 3 года назад +145

    I’m only half way through and I’m so incredibly blown away from the mention of me, all the way to your insight on everything including your actions on balisong flipping. I think you did a much better job of speaking on the view I had about all the situations we both covered. Seeing your passion and insight about the community and balisong in general is one of my main inspirations and I’m so blown away by your take on these topics Will, incredible job 🖤
    Side note: fucking LOVVVVVE the nails

    • @babymonkeys510
      @babymonkeys510 3 года назад +6

      I love your videos! Keep up the amazing work!

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +10

      Hey thank you so much for the inspiration to make this! I finally realized it was time to talk about it

    • @spirit6922
      @spirit6922 3 года назад +4

      I'm just so glad he got my message, you deserve so much more than you are getting my man. Continue making brilliant work for us man!

    • @BalisongFlipping
      @BalisongFlipping 3 года назад +8

      Ayy... look at you Serif! Changing the world and stuff 😋

    • @babeegotbackproblems
      @babeegotbackproblems 3 года назад +7

      I’m just a big softy hippie guy trying to spread positivity and love every day. Flipping balisongs brings me a lot of joy and I just want to share that more ^-^

  • @samblack8801
    @samblack8801 3 года назад +24

    I love it when Will gets passionate about something

  • @owencooper8590
    @owencooper8590 3 года назад +132

    It’s kinda hypocritical that your talking about him having clones but you have like 80 Brandon clones. (Jk this is just a joke and btw you and Brandon and really underrated and I can tell you all put a lot of effort in your videos!)

    • @UsefulTitanium76
      @UsefulTitanium76 2 года назад +3

      but he doesn’t support them or like them to my knowledge

    • @UsefulTitanium76
      @UsefulTitanium76 2 года назад +2

      and brandon from balisong flipping does support

    • @reflexflips3448
      @reflexflips3448 2 года назад +4

      @@UsefulTitanium76 they joke about having Brandon (his friend who makes his vids with) clones that they manufacture for .69¢ a piece.

    • @Dst4r
      @Dst4r Год назад

      @@reflexflips3448 that's too expensive

    • @Gabe484
      @Gabe484 Год назад +1

      How are they underrated there this biggest RUclipsrs for balisonh flipping

  • @emmas1366
    @emmas1366 3 года назад +48

    fixing it with your mouth is actually not bad advice! of course Neosporin is better but if you don't have access, saliva has antiseptic properties and it actually contains a pretty strong pain killer

    • @tuuguu1438
      @tuuguu1438 3 года назад +2

      fr? i never knew that

    • @cjthrowsyoyos
      @cjthrowsyoyos 3 года назад

      What?! That’s awesome

    • @Jae.no7
      @Jae.no7 3 года назад

      I think he was joking

    • @tryhardr2658
      @tryhardr2658 2 года назад +3

      (This is kinda long. Got a TL;DR at the end.)
      Im late to the party, but dude‘s half-right. Saliva does contains opiorphin, which is a strong painkiller (stronger than morphine), but it also contains millions of bacteria. The pain may go away but you risk a bacterial infection.
      Saliva is also somewhat antiseptic, but it doesnt mean saliva is completely clean and bacteria/virus-free, cuz your mouth is like, one of the most bacteria-infested place in your body. If those bacteria is not killed by the antiseptic saliva and u lick your wound, theres a possibility u gonna do more harm than good. Its not a completely bad idea (does have some benefits, and animals do it too), but you gotta remember it carries some sort of danger.
      TL;DR: Saliva can stop the pain, but your mouth is dirty, so u risk bacteria infection by licking. Think b4 u lick

    • @eagleroxy2
      @eagleroxy2 2 года назад +1

      @@tryhardr2658 hey that’s actually really cool, thank you for telling us this!

  • @DefOfDopeProductions
    @DefOfDopeProductions 3 года назад +12

    I don’t know much about this controversy as I’m super new to flipping knives. I like how you talked about your backstory and growing up in a smaller community and growing to be a more socially aware person. Love your videos!!
    Btw I got into flipping because of your videos! I love it now, cant put my Krake Raken down. Keep being awesome!

  • @perforce1
    @perforce1 3 года назад +60

    I miss knifecaviar. Definitely was over-caffeinated, but he had heart.

    • @DizzyOnIce
      @DizzyOnIce 3 года назад +2

      Same

    • @Oofu
      @Oofu 3 года назад

      Who is that? Sorry, I'm new to the community. What happened?

    • @prod.sardoniiq6942
      @prod.sardoniiq6942 3 года назад +1

      Same

    • @thegoldenweed3754
      @thegoldenweed3754 3 года назад +6

      ​@@Oofu a bali vlogger that hasn't uploaded in a while because of irl stuff. he sold me his ex10 earlier this year actually

    • @FBI-sr2eg
      @FBI-sr2eg 2 года назад +2

      People really hated him for selling balisongs for more than they’re worth and being into streetwear?

  • @FirstLast-jl1wc
    @FirstLast-jl1wc 3 года назад +102

    I will say I think some of the general toxicity is because the hobby of knives draws in a certain type of people, either grown adults or 13 year old's that think owning knives is like edgy and rebellious and such. It's a shame because balisongs are much more than that but this is an unfortunate effect.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +16

      I'd say that's a fair perspective

    • @agquagwisvquwgavwj
      @agquagwisvquwgavwj 3 года назад +16

      This really hits the nail on the head, knife communities ( not just balisongs ) draw in a crowd of people who are often lone-wolves or social exiles. These people don’t often have the best communication skills which leads to a lot of misunderstanding. On the other hand - the younger people introduced to the balisong specific hobby often come from gaming backgrounds, (say, pewdepie for ex.) and gaming communities are typically extremely toxic.

    • @chippyred3305
      @chippyred3305 3 года назад +5

      Ngl this issa really fair point.. but at least for me i got into flipping bc flipping it is so visually pleasing Lmaoo

    • @aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb
      @aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb 2 года назад +4

      excuse me, im a 15 year old and i flip balisongs for fun, not because i think its edgy. i dont go on the street and threaten ppl with a knife which should be used for something else.

    • @gabrielmosoiu243
      @gabrielmosoiu243 2 года назад +4

      I got my first bali when I was 13, and have now put 200 dollars into the hobby with a lucha trainer and a zipper(literally ordered one today for my b-day) since. Its been 2 years almost and I'm loving the ride. Definitely seen and heard about some stuff, but overall I try to embody christ in my actions by being supportive and kind and loving towards other people. Totally see what you're saying tho abt the edgy 13 year old vibe. I just thought flipping looked like the most fun thing.

  • @Behindtheadrenaline
    @Behindtheadrenaline 3 года назад +143

    Just got into this hobby a few months ago, had no idea about the drama but what hobby/ fandom doesn't have drama. Will, would you ever make a video about fails/ dropping the knife and such? Some days it gets me down seeing all these fantastic flippers on social media, especially cause I am a beginner, and wonder if I ever get to that skill level, I know it's just practice but..yeah

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +38

      That's Great idea thank you! I'll have to do that

    • @chigen4tyrone320
      @chigen4tyrone320 3 года назад +9

      Trust me just keep flipping you will get better I promise it just takes time keep in mind all these people have been flipping for years

    • @yungschlaama3323
      @yungschlaama3323 3 года назад +4

      i’m about two weeks deep and i feel this

    • @kalebm7789
      @kalebm7789 3 года назад +3

      About 5 months in, still suck but it’s cool to watch yourself improve day by day.

    • @alexmcintosh8489
      @alexmcintosh8489 3 года назад +1

      What knife do you flip? I have a shitty eBay knife

  • @DenDenBMX
    @DenDenBMX 2 года назад +6

    As someone who also got to face the wrath of the anti-clone bullies(including the guy who got me into flipping), I really enjoyed this video. When it happened to me I apologized for like 2 seconds then changed my mind and put them in their place. And while the point I was trying to get across was exactly the point you made in this video and it did get them to leave me alone, I also went about it in a very toxic way. But as you also pointed out I realize now that while it worked in my case, I still contributed towards this communities problem with toxicity. You and your affinity for orange helped opened my eyes to that, so thank you for that :)

    • @the_brick_bali9956
      @the_brick_bali9956 2 года назад

      good to see you!

    • @TheBlackRose666
      @TheBlackRose666 2 года назад

      DenDen I remember that shit show happening. Balitrix and iamnotarealboy were also two more people who got bullied and harrased by 50 and nardath. It's so stupid what the community will do to control.

  • @hikasmr
    @hikasmr 3 года назад +34

    Will, thank you for the words about the clones. I am guilty of being rude and cruel to someone for buying a clone and your words made me rethink and reflect my actions. Once again, thank you.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +8

      Thank you! I'm glad my message came across!

    • @cjthrowsyoyos
      @cjthrowsyoyos 3 года назад +9

      can we teach balisong flipping to do more than one fuckin combo

  • @trashfl1pper914
    @trashfl1pper914 3 года назад +16

    Dude I miss knife caviar😩 (and that hand kiss was too wholesome lol)

    • @Furno52470
      @Furno52470 3 года назад +3

      I still rewatch his stuff from time to time :(

    • @Michael-bw4xv
      @Michael-bw4xv 3 года назад +1

      @@Furno52470 last time I checked he was focusing on camera and photography, he doesn’t care for the community hence why he dipped (from what I’ve heard don’t know if it’s true or not don’t quote me) but damn did he make a good video

    • @Furno52470
      @Furno52470 3 года назад +2

      @@Michael-bw4xv i wouldve loved to see him gush about the kraken or nautilus given how much he loved squid

    • @Michael-bw4xv
      @Michael-bw4xv 3 года назад

      @@Furno52470 for sure, i think he still flips but just doesn’t post

    • @perforce1
      @perforce1 3 года назад +1

      “Don’t forget, roast me in the comments boys!”

  • @elitilly1620
    @elitilly1620 3 года назад +3

    This channel is my favorite thing right now. I love this content and I’m looking forward to more of these videos!! Keep up the great work

  • @dotexey
    @dotexey 3 года назад +34

    Well this video 100% confirmed my suspicion that when you are a genuine caring person who speaks their mine very well. These are all great points and it shows that you really care about the community and people in general.

  • @friedcircuit3770
    @friedcircuit3770 2 года назад +2

    I was pretty lucky when I got Into the hobby, I watched your videos and bali flipping sometimes but mainly just your content, and joined your discord, which is the only discord not made by me and my friends that I’m actually kind of active in, everyone is just so nice and helpful, definitely some cool people in there, if any of them are reading this :) good job at helping me with everything I didn’t understand

  • @ZedEyeEyeEnOh
    @ZedEyeEyeEnOh 3 года назад +20

    I agree with a lot of the points in this video, you make great takes and points, one thing I'm surprised you didn't mention is what Brandon and Jake do in their server to get people to be moderator, the making kids eat raw eggs for mod is a fucked up thing to do. Another thing I wanted to mention is, when you don't have money for a certain knife you have, you get what you can afford, I agree with that. The problem is that Brandon clearly does have money to buy knives from real manufacturers and not just clones. Like just recently he bought a zephyr clone, and called it better than the real zephyr, plus called SvixCo "Shitco" in his description and then changed it. He does have money to spend and to get real bali's. I'm hoping u possibly make a video on the questionable things he's done. Shiv Shack made a few episodes of their podcast showing what Brandon and Jake did in their server and I hope you check it out. All in all, great video, great takes, great everything.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +1

      I've not known much about the discord thing so that's why I didn't mention it, I haven't really payed any attention to it haha

    • @chucklesdeclown8819
      @chucklesdeclown8819 3 года назад

      Was it raw eggs? I thought it was just eggs?

    • @mxth_114
      @mxth_114 3 года назад

      @@chucklesdeclown8819 raw eggs apparently

    • @granttessitore9814
      @granttessitore9814 3 года назад

      Wait Brandon as in will hirsch Brandon? I’m not super familiar with the main people in the balisong community

    • @chucklesdeclown8819
      @chucklesdeclown8819 3 года назад +4

      @@granttessitore9814 no Brandon as in balisong flipping Brandon

  • @bochmcgee86
    @bochmcgee86 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for making this video Will. I’ve flipped for a few years and I haven’t posted a single balisong video on my instagram because I still suck and I know it can get toxic in the community. I know this was mostly about Balisongflipping, but because you made this video I am considering of finally putting something on my instagram and not being ashamed of it.

  • @DerReubus
    @DerReubus 3 года назад +3

    Agreed. Love you, love your videos, here and on the main channel, love Brandon, and most of all: I’ve always been a fan of fun silliness, and you and B got that shit DOWN.
    Well said. Very well said. I really hope people listen. 🤞🏼

  • @etanical
    @etanical 3 года назад +3

    I really enjoy these kinda videos its so chill to just have in the background

  • @realbirb
    @realbirb 3 года назад +4

    Towards the last week or two Balisong Flipping started to break and get really toxic. What started my disliking towards Balisong Flipping was the fact he banned multiple people for having a seperate opinion then his.
    You have a fair point and have changed my mind set on Brandon.

  • @sebastianboy1754
    @sebastianboy1754 3 года назад +2

    I like that you remained objective throughout the sharing of your opinions.
    Also, people need to stop gatekeeping hobbies.

  • @spirit6922
    @spirit6922 3 года назад +5

    I'm so glad my message was heard and that you addressed this as well. Thank you so much Will. I'm also glad that you mentioned me in the video

  • @agquagwisvquwgavwj
    @agquagwisvquwgavwj 3 года назад +11

    I really feel like the final 5 minutes of this video should be required viewing for people who consider themself “in the balisong community.” The toxicity is a genuine problem that really turns people off from the hobby and I think a big reason is that many people struggle to find the ‘right way’ to call out other people. There are simultaneously people who are ignoring bad business or community practice, while also going nuclear over say; owning a clone. There needs to be accountability and respect in tandem. I think this balance will be extremely difficult due to the fact that most Balisong Flippers are young gamers. Young people and specifically young gamers - are exposed to toxic behavior every day of their life, so inevitably it comes with them into the balisong community.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +2

      That's a very good point, and I do hope more people get this message and spread it!

    • @Toothydeere
      @Toothydeere 3 года назад +1

      Man, are you the person they talk about when they say respect your elders ? Mad respect to you, man

  • @vyke_24
    @vyke_24 3 года назад +3

    In the end of the day we are all flippers who love the art. We should not be divided but help each other grow ♥️ You're a good person Will 🧡

  • @nacho_flips8143
    @nacho_flips8143 3 года назад +4

    Unsweet tea👌, this was a really really great video😁

  • @LurkingAstronaut
    @LurkingAstronaut 3 года назад +3

    Brand brand new to flipping. I didn't have any idea there was a community or that there was drama. I didn't even realize that clones were such an issue. I thought they were just a balisong with klone in the name. Yes, I purchased one. I really want a nice quality blade but the klone was what was available to me and I didn't want to drop a ton of money on something that I wasn't even sure I would enjoy. If I get really into flipping, I will not be buying another cheap clone. Thank you for the advice. I learn a lot watching your videos.

  • @nakiwoo4586
    @nakiwoo4586 3 года назад +4

    It's weird how this video has dislikes when it's actually an educational video. Will is the Chad and wholesome guy you meet in a discord community. Thanks for this man.

  • @orbitaltwist_
    @orbitaltwist_ 3 года назад +3

    Will i love the truth and the fact and the positivity please keep this up ❤👍

  • @alex72829
    @alex72829 2 года назад +3

    My respect for you just went up a whole lot after watching this video

  • @cork1174
    @cork1174 3 года назад +4

    Ngl I loved this longer video! I wanna see more stuff like this!

  • @upper-249
    @upper-249 3 года назад +3

    Mr Will I want to say thank you 1 you helped me get back into the balisong flipping 2 I suffer from severe depression and your content being me joy so you keep being you

  • @bitesize_85
    @bitesize_85 2 года назад +3

    i already like you as a creator and a person but this video just made my respect for you go waaaaaaaay up!

  • @soundingtheskies
    @soundingtheskies Год назад +2

    You know, I've noticed people always say "yeah I like ___ but the community is kinda toxic."
    After my many years of existence, I've realized this is literally every community, because people suck. Full stop.

  • @meat156
    @meat156 3 года назад +2

    will, we appreciate the effort you put into your videos. they're sick

  • @SolaireFlair
    @SolaireFlair 3 года назад +9

    No wonder Will grabbed the tea, he had to spill some in this video.

  • @kyoflow16
    @kyoflow16 3 года назад +5

    Hey Will! Love the points you made, and I think Benji Knudsen also summed it up pretty concisely with, “any success in the community is a success for all.” However, I’d like to touch on the clone issue. Its the main reason why I stopped watching his content. I agree that buying a clone does not make someone a bad person, however I do think that promoting clones as better or close to as good as the original becomes an issue. He has quite a few videos where he tells people that the original manufacturers are overcharging and ripping off the community. I find this to be unfair to the original manufacturer as BalisongFlipping doesn’t seem to have a full understanding of economies of scale, cost of production, and just running manufacturing in general. And again, as you said, he does not deserve hate for this, but he does deserve to be called out for it.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +4

      I totally agree with that!

    • @ToxicNova5
      @ToxicNova5 3 года назад +1

      Saying the quality on some clones is close to the originals is just the truth. It is calling out some of the BS that Balisong companies are doing like higher markups and the same limited/lack of supply shit that happens in the sneaker world. Limited, low stock drops of knives to artificially increase the demand and price. OG companies do charge extra for a lot of what you are talking about but still do the other BS as well. Sorry but it shouldn’t take months trying on drops to just get a production knife with eh materials. In that way, they are being unfair to the community.

  • @taylorlisle5836
    @taylorlisle5836 3 года назад +1

    This Chanel is the most epic thing ever. Hearing all your opinions on things in the balisong community really makes you feel alot more like your in the balisong community lol. Like previously you felt like some far away balisong entity that was kind of separate from everything else in the community, but now your much more persable and its really cool to see.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад

      I'm glad! It's funny because I started doing balisong videos because of how in the community I was, not the other way around. So it's sad to think that I sometimes seem distant!

  • @Bowie0
    @Bowie0 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for addressing this in an in depth fashion. It’s always nice to hear more thoughts on the subject and different views. Also on a less serious note. I peep the giant bread square in the corner 👀 7:36

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +4

      That's the toast bed for Toast that Penny uses

  • @FedGrod
    @FedGrod Год назад

    I am glad you are a reasonable person, you are absolutely right and I know and hope Balisong Flipping can grow. You grew as a person which is great and I think as long as someone makes up for it and apologizes they can be forgiven. I once had a class where once someone made a really bad joke that was definitely not school appropriate in any way, but they apologized eventually and as I began to know them throughout the year I knew I couldn't judge someone's entire personality by one thing they said one time in the one hour period of time I see them in every other day, like you said it's their actions throughout their life and what they do afterwards. Thank you for being a great person and being voice of reason! subbed

  • @trebur24
    @trebur24 3 года назад +2

    the socks nails and balisong :3 I LOVE IT

  • @braindeadlogic590
    @braindeadlogic590 3 года назад +15

    THE LUCHA it’s been a while
    Edit: ironically his name is Brandon

  • @theemperor8553
    @theemperor8553 2 года назад +1

    I’m sorry that this is so off topic, but I love your nails! They match the Bali really well too :)

    • @theemperor8553
      @theemperor8553 2 года назад

      It also matches your Lami Safari pen :)

  • @0c3ans52
    @0c3ans52 3 года назад +1

    I did not know about this. I am very new to this community and Balisong Flipping was the first RUclipsr that I started following in this community. This makes me sad to hear about and changes how I feel towards him but I hope that this situation cools down.

  • @loosezenpin
    @loosezenpin 3 года назад +3

    Agree with your take on this, and balisong flipping seems like an alright guy with good vids. My thing is since he named himself "balisong flipping" he kinda rigged the youtube analytics for his channels exposure wich is kinda fucked as it drowns out creaters in the community from the search results, and I believe this could be a major reason for his growth. Don't know if he did that intentionally tho but it should be said

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +2

      This is something I've thought about too haha

  • @thedestroyer6815
    @thedestroyer6815 3 года назад +13

    As far as I'm aware he still denies ever saying it and claims the screenshots are fake.

  • @waliveroliver5854
    @waliveroliver5854 3 года назад +2

    I love that Lucha, looking so clean!!

  • @CopywitingToolbox
    @CopywitingToolbox 3 года назад +1

    I personally love these type of videos.. super easy and fun to watch

  • @lmnoq_5210
    @lmnoq_5210 3 года назад +4

    I'm also from middle-of-nowhere Texas and I also used to make trashy, bad-taste racist jokes. At some point, I realized that making those jokes wasn't okay, and I've started calling out those types of jokes rather than joining them. I've learned from those experiences and realized that what I said wasn't okay. I sincerely beleive that, with the reaction he received, Balsong Flipping had likely done the same.

  • @flippyfliperson4092
    @flippyfliperson4092 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for covering this
    AAAAAND I see that lamy safari I see you

  • @theofficialobama5434
    @theofficialobama5434 3 года назад +2

    Honestly I think that's every large community. If you have a large amount of people who like the same thing there's gonna be a lot of drama.

  • @Oofu
    @Oofu 3 года назад +1

    I'm really liking the handle, nails and watch band scheme!

  • @anthonyhoppe9603
    @anthonyhoppe9603 3 года назад

    whatever sideways aerial combo you keep doing is so satisfying

  • @ethan_coyle2673
    @ethan_coyle2673 3 года назад +1

    Great vid man keep it up plz. Great stuff btw I totally aggree about the clones

  • @grillsimon4548
    @grillsimon4548 3 года назад +3

    I love your vids 😭😭😭 orange is Awsome

  • @p_ineappl_e
    @p_ineappl_e 3 года назад +1

    Something I love about balisong flipping is how he shouts people’s channels out frequently

  • @niccster1061
    @niccster1061 3 года назад +1

    Im so glad you have the same views on clones as me! Everyone is way too extreme about it and they dont actually look into the nuances(not that its even that nuanced)

  • @TrevFlips
    @TrevFlips 3 года назад +3

    By 10:15 i started mimicking your combo 😸👊
    Really good points dude, i feel like new flippers won’t get all of this, but it’s definitely all true and it’s very refreshing to hear others say it
    𝔹𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕡𝕠𝕤𝕚𝕥𝕚𝕧𝕚𝕥𝕪

  • @jahiapw
    @jahiapw 3 года назад +10

    I have a strange perspective on clones. I started out with crappy Amazon trainers, before moving to the Lucha as my first real knife. I loved it, but took a break from the hobby for a good year or so. Clones were a good way for me to get back into it, and I like them more than my lucha. I think it’s possible a lot of people prefer clones over original knives sometimes.

    • @squidcultist0022
      @squidcultist0022 2 года назад

      Clones are a good entry point. Especially if you're not able to spend 200$ on a high quality original

    • @Nuovoda
      @Nuovoda 2 года назад +2

      @@squidcultist0022 along with the fact that i’ve heard that some clones are actually more durable than the original

    • @Nuovoda
      @Nuovoda 2 года назад +2

      plus i’ve also seen that most clones are exactly like the original

    • @NO-tx8vs
      @NO-tx8vs 2 года назад

      If it’s trainers i see no reason to buy anything other than a clone/ anything over like 100$. Unless that’s what u rly want I personally don’t wanna spend 200-350 on something I’m just gonna beat on I ain’t gonna let nobody tell me otherwise neither should you. More options besides clones are comin out for the same price point and better quality than clones once they do that’s when ima b done w clones.

    • @dcard228
      @dcard228 2 года назад

      People like them because sometimes you get something of similar quality for a third of the price

  • @wowtac547
    @wowtac547 2 года назад

    Love the video! I agree with what you said about balisong flipping and hate in general… it can get WAY to extreme and just unnecessary even if it’s tempting but dosent mean you can’t rant/vent about it just be civil if you do.
    It dose suck that balisongs are illegal in Canada and sucks that there are so many beautiful balisongs without a trainer blade option. Thankfully there are still a lot of amazing trainers out there!
    I was wondering who this zan person you mentioned in 17:51
    Would be cool to see another Canadian balisong creators on this platform

  • @pridefulworm
    @pridefulworm 3 года назад +4

    I thought you were going to go full hate mob, I'm very pleasantly surprised with the very measured and nuanced opinion on how to be productive. Can't really agree that all edgey jokes are just bad and shouldn't be said, but it's really nice to hear a reasonable response to things.

  • @coda56
    @coda56 3 года назад

    you are probably my favorite balisong youtuber, great person with opinions that i agree with completely, and i hate the gatekeeping in this community aswell

  • @prod.sardoniiq6942
    @prod.sardoniiq6942 3 года назад +1

    I actually had no idea knifecaviar was so hated. I loved his vids and they really pulled me into the hobby. I know a lot of what I know now because of his vids :)

  • @butterflyknives6674
    @butterflyknives6674 3 года назад +1

    Pretty insightful video dude.

  • @BryanBoogie
    @BryanBoogie 3 года назад +1

    Love your vids will, keep em coming bro

  • @CutACrow
    @CutACrow 3 года назад +1

    Ive been flipping for 12 years, I dont like Balisong flipping as he gives misinformation and objectively bad advice to newcomer flippers. Biggest issue is his disregard of a bitehandle and promoting clones/low quality balisong brands (when theres much better options for similar price points).
    Bringing more people is GOOD but when you tell them horrible information its only gonna cause injury and bad habits moving forward. Sources like you are extremely useful as you arent spewing nonsense or misinformation. So keep up the great work Will!
    Also brandon can afford real knives, lets be real here. Yet he still owns and promotes clones.

  • @bunnybuns6342
    @bunnybuns6342 Год назад

    I love the way your looking at him. And I agree he shouldn’t have made that joke but that doesn’t mean he’s racist is what lots of people don’t get like you said. And I also agree what you said about clones if you can try and get the real one but if not it’s fine as long as your happy with it.

  • @cjsantos766
    @cjsantos766 2 года назад

    Not just knives, great all round life advice. Thanks.

  • @BillBaran
    @BillBaran 3 года назад +2

    Sadly all niche communities and subcultures deal with drama and gate-keeping. I can't think of one I've been a part of where cliquing hasn't happened. The only strategy I've found is to ignore it, don't feed it, and build new and better things without them.

  • @howdystranger5896
    @howdystranger5896 2 года назад +1

    i started out live blade with 4X clones now I own BRS / HOM. clones are definitely a good stepping stone for the game. They make good blades for the kitchen too. Trainers are fine but what people say about trainers is true when going live down the road. Bad habits, fear of cuts, less speed of progression live. It happened to me when I didn't think it would. Maybe it won't happen for someone else. everyone is different. Another great to a clone is they're in a price range where it really doesn't matter how badly it becomes beat up because it's CCC. From what I received on those 4Xs I was impressed with the quality. The new stuff is even better. IMO buy a clone that is an out of production model vs current production models. If you do have a clone and you're looking to sell just don't try to scam because that's not right. you're hurting the buyer and you'll most likely become blacklisted which will make B/S/T 2nd hand a nightmare.
    that's my take on clones.
    as far as the content creator balisong flipping... Don't really care about the fact he made whatever joke people say whatever they say. I just think his content is not good and the fact his channel title is what it is makes me mad. He made his name the category of his content most likely with intent to play upon the algorithm in his favor. The fact that his channel encompasses hardly anything but a small fraction of the real nature of balisong flipping makes him a complete joke to me. when I see his videos I ignore them always have after I saw the first few and I will continue to do so regardless of this video.

  • @theokosnikowski4579
    @theokosnikowski4579 2 года назад

    on the topic of encouragement for new people who come into the community. my mother has always taught me that the big people take care of the little people. in other words the experienced flippers need to shelter and teach the new people so one day the new people can teach others.

  • @jubblybits6155
    @jubblybits6155 Год назад

    I’m surprised by your stance on this issue. However, I 100% agree with you and I’m glad you expressed your feelings on the matter. We would all be condemned and canceled because everyone has made bad decisions.

  • @ravn87
    @ravn87 3 года назад

    It would be genuinely awesome to be able to hang with you and get to know you. I think you are incredibly skilled, not just in smooth and fluid handling, but also in the how intelligent you are in evaluating the community and keep a reserved judgement on people instead of jumping on the "popular opinion" band wagon. I loved hearing your views, of which I wholely agree. And really, your views are pretty generally universal about any fandom and community, even if you explain it in the context of the balisong fandom.
    Thank you for your views and your display, and I hope we certainly get to hear more from you. I appreciate everything you skillfully articulated here. :)
    My fandom and gaming communities have hardcore toxicity in it as well. It's certainly nothing knew to me. It's how we try to distance ourselves from others pressing and insisting opinions and try to find level-headed personal grounding in our own evaluation that can help us try to steer the waters to more forgiving and understanding territory. Not everybody listens though unfortunately. But we can still try to better ourselves, even if we can't always convince others to do the same.
    I myself have just started learning how to flip. But I personally know absolutely no one in my life who does it, so I have no one to learn from. I'm kinda surfing around for instruction really. I've never joined a flipping community, so I know nothing of the names you mentioned or who they are, but wish me luck that I can get to be as good as you are somehow. ✌️💃
    Thank you for your content. And I wish you peace.

  • @MrSmokeyd86
    @MrSmokeyd86 2 года назад

    Chilling watching this cause I just built one, first live blade❤️. Love the history here clears a weird vibe you get sometime 🤣

  • @banana_splitz5679
    @banana_splitz5679 3 года назад +1

    I know it’s a relatively old knife, but your Lucha looks so fucking clean. Also valid opinions

  • @objectholdt3306
    @objectholdt3306 3 года назад +2

    On the clone thing. I currently have a falcon in the future I will get an atropos demon trainer. While I guess I did support a cloning company but I would have probably fallen out of love with balisongs if I didn't buy the falcon. Which buying that falcon will lead to 300 dollars in Atroposes pocket.

  • @thedisturbedone5026
    @thedisturbedone5026 3 года назад +2

    Great video. I want to go to blade show for balisongs. But I've been on Instagram and I'm scared if I go I'll get shit on and people will be toxic to me irl.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +1

      Generally blade show and irl events are much less toxic, because people in general are nice when not hidden behind the shield of the internet

    • @thedisturbedone5026
      @thedisturbedone5026 3 года назад

      @@WillHirschFlips I hope your right because I want to go. I stopped posting on insta because of drama and my account is now private lol. Too many people saying I was bad and shunning me.

  • @chris9653
    @chris9653 3 года назад +1

    Never knew why knife caviar left. The more you know

  • @SamuelGoodwin
    @SamuelGoodwin 3 года назад +1

    I agree. Let’s make a nicer community.

  • @mesniburek1652
    @mesniburek1652 2 года назад

    I still remember Knife Caviar....I liked watching his videos because he had a lot of exotic balisongs

  • @iterativegrowth
    @iterativegrowth Месяц назад

    Coming from someone who has never owned a balisong nor intends to, necessarily - I am amused, saddened, and surprised to hear that there’s “drama in the knife flipping community”
    good to know 😂

  • @wubwubsnubnose2908
    @wubwubsnubnose2908 3 года назад +1

    That's basically everything. More pages need to be monitored.

    • @otokonoko_
      @otokonoko_ 3 года назад

      Everything but the weird creepy kid stuff...

  • @urbalixd5984
    @urbalixd5984 2 года назад

    15:05 This is true, i had bought 5 clone and that make me think about i had support to a clone company so i want to afford a krake raken by saving money. Love ur vid❤

  • @Xanduur
    @Xanduur 2 года назад

    It’s my opinion that if someone makes a comment like that or say something hateful, the best thing to do is to have everybody walk away from them. Just abandoned them. Let them experience life without supporters or friends and they will either self destruct or figure out how to be a better person. Usually when you call somebody out on something they just get angry.

  • @lunacy7802
    @lunacy7802 3 года назад +9

    You made me wanna paint my nails orange so… I did! Normalize men painting nails ):

    • @nacho_flips8143
      @nacho_flips8143 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, I don't see the problem. Ppl just assume you're gay if you paint your nails, it's weird

    • @BootyBandit44
      @BootyBandit44 3 года назад +3

      No ones stopping you dawg who cares about others peoples opinion if u like it

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +1

      Hell yeah!!

    • @nacho_flips8143
      @nacho_flips8143 3 года назад

      @@WillHirschFlips the orange🧡🔥🧡🔥

    • @stanr114
      @stanr114 3 года назад

      Thankfully it is becoming more normalised but Will really rocks the orange tho

  • @tylerlimbean4931
    @tylerlimbean4931 6 месяцев назад

    Came here not knowing who balisong flipping was and thought you were talking about the hobby. Stayed for the drama

  • @after_alec
    @after_alec 3 года назад +3

    You know you’ve lived in the south when you call it unsweet tea

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +1

      It annoys me SO MUCH because if you order 'Tea' here they AUTOMATICALLY assume sweet???

    • @froggyman_flips
      @froggyman_flips 3 года назад

      @@WillHirschFlips sweet tea >unsweetened tea

    • @after_alec
      @after_alec 3 года назад

      ​@@WillHirschFlips What's funny is how intuitive it is to just call it unsweet tea; I don't think anyone ever told me when I moved to Texas I just kind of ordered tea this way after the first disaster at Wendy's

  • @BrokenTUT
    @BrokenTUT 3 года назад +4

    I wanted those handles soo bad, but they aren’t available 😭

  • @emmas1366
    @emmas1366 3 года назад +2

    just so everyone is clear the person who runs the balisong flipping channel's name is Brandon, but it is not the Brandon in wills videos. those of us in the discord jokingly call balisong flipping "klandon" to distinguish between them. especially since saying "balisong flipping" to refer to a person can be confusing

    • @memeperor_
      @memeperor_ 3 года назад

      hahaha yessss we call him klandon

  • @chucklesdeclown8819
    @chucklesdeclown8819 3 года назад +2

    I've honestly had mixed feelings about him, I did slightly jump the gun on his glo mod which got people angry at me for supporting him but I'm a very jump the gun person, when a new maker enters the arena, I want them to have the best chance to become a good maker and at least a cult following, I was right on machine wise, I was somewhat right on baliquick(I wish he didn't give up on the ether but hey) so when he was coming out with the glow mod, he was entering an unexplored space, cheaper then 40 for original makers has been pretty close to unexplored territory other then cccs and I still stand by what I said to a certain extent with a side of caution that the glow sticks can break and that's no fun for everybody.
    The idea is fun but it's just not there, there needs to be kinks solved, the idea is great, the execution is meh

  • @eliasskalsbrentsen8383
    @eliasskalsbrentsen8383 2 года назад

    I was talking with ''Balisong flipping'' on his discord server for about 10min, then I asked when the giveaway will come bc it was delayed, I got banned from the server short time after. I can't belive I actually liked this guy.

  • @sasha-ng8ib
    @sasha-ng8ib 2 года назад

    “That’s how you fix it, with your mouth” -Will, 2021

  • @untitledsoup7287
    @untitledsoup7287 Год назад

    Spoken like a true warrior

  • @bali-bogan
    @bali-bogan 2 года назад

    For a few people who may be confused, there is a RUclipsr by the name of “Balisong Flipping” and he is what will has talked about. Loved the video man!

  • @jomorken4853
    @jomorken4853 2 года назад +1

    I am steering away from most "communities" , especially if I am new to a hobby. There are just so many people that become monsters behind keyboards

  • @leomenz9
    @leomenz9 3 года назад +21

    I do not understand how you have half the subs that he has. Balisong flipping just talks and flips and does not put any effort into his videos whereas you and Brandon make such high quality videos but are so underrated

    • @33kappa1
      @33kappa1 3 года назад +2

      he paid for them that's why

    • @flippyfliperson4092
      @flippyfliperson4092 3 года назад +2

      It’s sad but the algorithm thinks that is better

    • @sganicocchi5337
      @sganicocchi5337 3 года назад

      bots + shorts algorithm giving him tons of watchtime hiding the lack of watchtime caused by inactive sub bots. he basically did something right at the right time.

    • @WillHirschFlips
      @WillHirschFlips  3 года назад +7

      It's because he uploads every single day

    • @marcel7895
      @marcel7895 3 года назад +1

      Well its cause he got blessed by the algorithm

  • @ferrisbueller9991
    @ferrisbueller9991 6 месяцев назад

    As someone who was the right age for when Vaping culture really came in full bloom and peaked, you'd have hipsters with large steampunk devices proudly being fog machines blowing massive clouds, and as someone who liked balisongs since childhood... well the communities are more similar than you would think. Surely some people have been in both but just getting Juuls at the gas station isn't what I mean by "the culture" even though the the whole Juul at School culture was a thing. I'm talking about the far more pretentious ones, serious hobbyists. Instead of Juuls it was mech mods and box mods with rebuildable atomizers. This is how they sold vapes at butterfly knife prices, they were works of art yada yada, bought a very classical looking one which was 300 bucks and 3-4 months latter it no work anymore. (Like my first balisong, a bear and son 30 bucks, which lasted almost that before it was all one flip alway from falling into pieces.)
    I forgot what my point was beyond how they can both have to types of customers: those who wanted a balisong primarily so that they could use it, even edc it, are akin to people who would buy a vape so that they would also get utility from it, something to get themselves off cigarettes or just a nicotine hit... which was the point.
    I think the people who were using zero nicotine juice so that they could be a walking chimney and have a "cloud contest" (yes, it exists) with others aka who blows a larger load out their mouth are similar to the balisong elitists who will do their flipping contests (it is another male dominated activity so pissing contests are obligatory) and care far more about expressing their martial art forms more than actually thinking to use the blade for anything that isn't opening a new letter or box (perhaps with a bali in it.)
    In the name of art you can make prices whatever you want, not that there isn't blades worth 10 grand. But a lot of shit is overpriced because they know the community is in a sort of exploitable culture. I only payed 300 bucks for a vape because I thought it would last a lifetime... that was foolish, I was 18. I don't expect the Lucha I just got to last a lifetime but I expect decades. More importantly I trust sending it in to Kershaw. Contacted the vape creator after I brought it back to the store and none of them could offer any help beyond offering to buy it back for 40 dollars... fuck you no.
    That store is where my friends would often hang out... many years latter heard from said friends how the girl who was apart of the couple who ran the store was arrested. Well considering I watched several of my 17 y/o friends smoke weed in their with them (way before my state was even ok with medicinal use, or it was but it was monitored like giving a painkiller script.)
    Met a girl who I latter learned would become friends with them too after we moved on, she said she had to guard the secret of why the arrest happened. I have a good guess but perhaps it is saucier... but seriously all you had to do is open the door and get hit with an overwhelming smell of weed. Cops like to vape. I wouldn't even see a cop as a dick if he wasn't on the clock and called it in... you are smoking weed with children almost everyday... many groups of children. At least try and hide it is how I would feel as a cop. But no. It was all out in the open.
    I know the store had a rocky start, the guy who's gf got in trouble started it with a friend of his. His friend early into their operating days would clear the store of all its valuables and disappear to run away and fund his drug relapse which was Heroin and Psychedelics.

    • @kenziesmith6747
      @kenziesmith6747 Месяц назад

      Nah there’s way more snowflakes in the balisong community mate

  • @gigaacademia9313
    @gigaacademia9313 3 года назад +2

    I thought balisong flipping was a happy hobby but now I see some people suck

  • @lukeflippps
    @lukeflippps 2 года назад +4

    All brandon ever was, was nice to me. I must have talked to him for days on end on discord and not one bad thing to say besides he bans haters and he loves talking to very cultural people like from other countries cause they are normal more than us

  • @essenkillerthezombiektz5026
    @essenkillerthezombiektz5026 3 года назад +1

    26:29 yo why didn't you throw the knife into that piece of bread XD
    (i know its probably like a seat cushion or something but i really thought you were gonna throw the knife into it XD)