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Did you ever read his autobiography? Here it is: My loser dad got me high before I was 13 I got into playing music. I got high. We made an album. I went into rehab. Released an album. Got high again. Fucked a couple famous chicks. Got high. Released an album Rehab Album Rehab Album Now I own a dog.
Haha, lmao. Yeah, he puts on that California kid thing in his book, and it's aged badly. I still love the band very much, but he can be kinda goofy sometimes.
"We didn't want to be THAT GUY" and try to steal the spotlight, or make it about us" after taking their clothes off and dancing across the stage naked in the middle of a song.
End of tour pranks are pretty common, especially with underground bands. When you've got the young chili peppers you gotta be prepared. I think most bands would find it funny but with all the tension in the Ramones camp at this time I don't think it helped.
@@brianmcawesome all of you are missing the point. I don't care if they pranked them. It's just dishonest to pretend to be humble and courteous and say you didn't want to draw attention and take away from the band, when you took your clothes off and danced across the stage in the middle of their song. It's more about me not liking phonies or liars. It's like wearing a t-shirt that says "look at me, I'm sexy and humble".
My band went on tour with them in 79. Right out of high school. Joey was one of the nicest most humble human being you could possibly meet. He taught us a lot about the business, touring, marketing, management. I miss that man a lot. 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Just about story of fans meeting Joey or working with him is of him being humble, nice, and sweet. He had his moments, apparently, when he'd struggle with his OCD, but overall he was a good guy. Johnny Ramone, on the other hand, is described as mean, bullying, and difficult to work with by his former bandmates. Marky Ramone did say that there needed to be someone who'd crack the whip and get guys like Dee Dee and Joey in line, and Johnny was happy to play the heavy.
Joey seemed like such a sweet guy, impossible not to like him. Even as I'm politically much more in line with Johnny...it's obvious Joey was a much more kind and cool guy than John ...
Got the privilege of meeting Joey before a show...super nice guy and offered me to drink out of the 5th of Jack he was murdering...had to take a big pull in that moment...thanks for being so cool Joey
The Red Hot Chili Peppers had obnoxious antics back then and people I knew thought they were either funny or stupid. Here, it seems for the first time that they found out themselves that not everyone thought they were cool.
I'm not so sure. After reading Fleas and Anthony's autobiographies, they just wanted to be freaks. It was their thing. Undoubtedly they had already found out many times that their idea of fun isn't shared by the whole of humanity.
To be fair, I know of no other band that rehearses an entire set right before the gig. Especially if they have been on the road playing the same songs every night and really especially if they are all two minute, three chord punk songs.
The fact that they did this without telling them beforehand, and he talked about their perfectionistic ritual beforehand, it was definitely not an homage. He felt they were uptight and wanted to show them. Sounds like he didn’t consider how they would take it, but it was definitely rude and defiant
A little while ago in a long conversation about music with a friend he at some point said "to me RHCP and Jackass are the same thing", and I kind of agree with that.
This is as bad as when Rob Zombie told a story about when White Zombie was opening for the Ramones, on their last night, took out Silly String cans and silly stringed the Ramones when they were playing on stage. Let's just say Johnny Ramone tore Rob Zombie a new a$$hole.. They eventually became very good friends 😅
Los shows de los Ramones estaban planeados al milímetro y controlados por el que ponía el orden, Johnny. Todos uniformados, si Johnny avanzaba en el escenario, Dee Dee se supone que debía avanzar también siguiendo una coreografía. Cronometraban la duración del concierto, cada vez eran más rápidos. Bien pensado, todo bastante alejado de la filosofía punk. No fue buena idea la de salir al escenario.
Or homage depending how punk rock you are. I'm positive Johnny was only pissed in the moment. Even if it took years, at some point, he smiled about it.
It was stupid of him but I think he was looking at the Ramones like if they were a hardcore punk band. If they did that at an Exploited, Germs, Black Flag or Sex Pistols show the reaction would be more positive. This just shows the Ramones professionally were step above their peers which isn’t necessarily surprising
So the very inflexible performance of a veteran professional and very commercial ‘punk’ band got spiced up a bit by some young mavericks doing something unexpected on stage and the autistic guitarist of said ‘punk’ band couldn’t handle it at all.
@@jadong8989 It’s kinda self explanatory. If you can’t understand, there’s no real use in explaining as far as I’m concerned. Maybe your aunt will give it a go. You could always ask her to educate you. She knows you need it.
It didnt ruin the show, but asking permission first always helps. It's their performance and they were always a tight unit who didnt fuck around, which, in other words, means read the room and think before you act.
Shared a birthday with Johnny and CJ, so on my 17th birthday a friend who was security at the Ramones/Social Distortion show got me back stage to hang out with them. Johnny was matter of fact for sure but was supportive that I was headed off to the Army three days later. Joey was quiet but polite. Market was super friendly and CJ was telling me he had gone awol from the Marines to audition for the Ramones. SD have always been polite, even though I may have told Mike Ness that night in a sycophantic haze that I loved the Stray Cats and SD reminded me of them.
Thanks for the story, man. That's great, I needed to hear that right now. Yeah, Johnny had two modes, before the night when he was smashing tvs and heard the voice, and after. I can't imagine the "serious professional" version of Johnny being anything but what you said. That band was a family of trauma. I identify with every member, but most of all, the dynamic. (They were a microcosm of America in that way.) I say this because I feel like maybe so do you. Whatever it was you went through, you survived. You will survive some more. There will be better days, and you will be glad you did. And you know this because it happened before. Don't ever lose sight of that. You may be on the verge of the best portion of your life, no matter how unlikely that all seems. I do not have a friend in the world, but every man like yourself is automatically my friend. I sincerely hope you see many more birthdays, good or better health, and wonders you've yet to even dream of. I'm just some dipshit on the internet, and I don't know anything about anything at all; but for some reason, and I do not know why, I believe strongy that you will.
Holy crow,lighten up ladies. It was 36 years ago at a punk rock show. Most of those guys never really grow up so don’t look down on them for having a little fun before everyone became so…so…soft😂 🎶Hey ho,let’s go!!! Hey ho,let’s go!!!🎶
Joey always knew he was in a rock'n'roll band. Johnny was under the impression he was working in a concrete factory. Anyway, when this happened RHCP were still in the early part of their journey, on the upslope, when a band is an art project and it's about fun. The Ramones were long since out of that phase when this happened. The post peak, "it's just a business" phase, when a band really isn't creating anything new and interesting any more and just sort of performing to pay the bills and remind everyone they still exist. It's where most bands end up eventually.
Yeah I saw the Ramones a lot back when they started.. unfortunately after the first 2 or 3 LP's that shook the world they sorta became irrelevant except for die hard fans
@@petarticinovic2710 Of course they have. All bands/ musician are artists. Music is art, each note is a colour and you're essentially painting a picture with sound. 🤷♂
@@petarticinovic2710 And ya can't tell me Kiedis isn't wearing an art teachers top in this short. 🤷♂😂 ruclips.net/user/shortsRxBLqkqDTEQ?si=8DERsICRydzWYhn-
He sounds so smart. He takes forever to choose the right words that arent even right most times. Just to sound intelligent. Cause he s not the look at me guy. Nothing of this story or past behavior says that about him. .
It has been said that Johnny was an uptight “conservative” character, despite appearances, and it was a significant source of conflict with Joey. His reaction in this story seems to fall in line with this assessment.
'We weren't trying to be ,uhh ,look at me'..as describes getting naked and jumping into a spotlight on a stage,during the most popular song they Ever did. How could anyone get that idea? Thats rhcp in nutshell.
I'm from Finland and my mom was at this concert in the Provinssirock festival. She remembers the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Ramones' concerts and of course the moment how Red Hot Chili Peppers "ruined" the Ramones concert. She also have met Joey Ramone after the show.
@@tmm4461 Joey vaikutti munkin mielestä aika sympaattiselta tyypiltä ja voin uskoa että äidille Joeyn tapaaminen oli aika ikimuistoinen hetki, vaikka juttelivat vain hetken. Myös arvostan sitä miten Joey ei pillastunut RHCP:n tempauksista kesken keikan vaan oli heillekin tosi maanläheinen ja sanoi että "Musta toi oli siistiä". 😄
Johnny was a straight up a-hole and disliked by alot of people. A legend for sure but this is a guy who Joey hated so much. Joey was very shy and Johnny stole his girlfriend. The KKK Took My Baby Away is about Johnny. He is the KKK. Johnny also refused to visit Joey on his deathbed and when inducted into the HOF he thanked George W Bush and not Johnny. Johnny however became close friends with John Frusciante as did his widow. They still hang out.
Never met the guy but most stories I have heard about Johnny was he wasn't really cool or nice. Joey on the other hand, all I hear are cool stories and the same with Dee Dee and the drummers.
I’ve been a fan of both of these bands for a long time and every bit of this sounds like the members of RHCP being themselves, Johnny being Johnny & Joey being Joey. It’s also not a surprise that Dee Dee didn’t say anything because he may not have even noticed the three extra people on stage and no one ever asked any of the Ramones drummers his opinion on anything. So this all pretty much adds up to me as exactly what I would’ve expected to happen in that given situation.
That sort of thing has happened to me on stage as a guitar player in a band and at the time I was mad but when I went back at watched the video that they filmed that night I had to laugh wasn't that bad.
From the audience it's fun and enjoyable most of the time when something unexpected happens on stage, even if it's just the opening band coming back for a few seconds and dancing naked. I think it was kind of cool
Johnny was always different from the punk image, because he was blue collar conservative. I wonder if the pre-show ritual was for Joey to cop3 with his obsessive compulsive issues.
…… my old band used to do the same thing. If given an opportunity before a gig, We’d run off into the washroom or around back of the venue to quickly play through our songs. We didn’t do the full songs, but we’d do intro verse chorus solo and outro quickly for each song. Its not unheard of.
I always thought Rock n Roll was all about self expression, free will, and fighting the system, but nooooo, thanks to Johnny, it's all about the money and institutionalizing their brand...
When I do a song live performance I’ve played it three times earlier that day. They hit well then playing them is golden high quality woodwork. Also it’s how the All Blacks play rugby, they reherse and so when they’re on the field they play so good.
I’m a huge fan of Ramones and Chili Peppers but, I think it’s telling when Joey liked it and Johnny didn’t. On a side note, Alice In Chains did the same thing to Van Halen.
Chains got boo'd off the stage in Miami, opening for VH. They sounded like crap, and acted like real douchebags. The crowd was there for VH, and because they played and sounded bad, they didn't win anyone over. In the end got pissed, threw a guitar down, gave the crowd the finger, and stormed off. All because they sounded like shit and the crowd wasn't digging it.
I saw the Ramones at the channel in Boston, we saw Joey playing pinball and walked up to talk to him, this douche that was with him says "Joey doesn't wanna talk to you" and my friend immediately doused her with his beer, Joey just laughed
Lessons learned for Anthony. Johnny doesn't dig it. Joey kinda did. And lastly, and most importantly. It must have been a very cold night, because Anthony mentions shrinkage a lot. 😂
So much hate in the comments.. I’m pretty sure he got the memo, or he wouldn't have shared the story in the way he did. We’ve all done stupid shit at one point or another. Or maybe it’s just me..
We don't need to talk a opinion, this just happened. In the punk scene so many bands would liked it, and some bands didn't. In a day ok, other day bad. C'mon..
If they did it during Cretin Hop I think it is kind of funny. Very early Chili Pepper like of them, definitely makes the show memorable, and yeah they were on stage and off, I feel it is perfect punk rock history.
I mean, you must’ve been a little aware of the dynamic of the band and their personalities. Johnny didn’t strike me as a guy that had friendly conversations with anybody ever. But you know anything that pisses off Johnny would make Joey tickled pink. Fire and Water those two.
I saw hundreds of great shows in the 80's-90's. Seeing Ramones twice was the greatest out of all of them. I knew at the age of 16 that I was witnessing rock and roll history and that I would never forget the feeling of stage diving in front of Joey, and subsequently break a rib in the process. Well worth it! I highly recommend reading "I Slept with Joey Ramone" by his brother Mickey. It is a page turner.
It IS bizarre. That's why nobody except The Ramones ever did that. For 99.99% of musicians it's unthinkable, because for bands who aren't run by a sociopathic fascistic drill sergeant wannabe, there's a strict rule: If you have to rehearse your set or practise your guitar solos in the dressing room before the show, you've screwed up royally. You should be able to play your stuff in your sleep at that point. That's what rehearsals before a tour are for. If you want to try new stuff in the middle of a tour, you rehearse it at the soundchecks, not directly before the gig. You usually don't play anything you're going to play on stage while your're warming up. Because if you screw it up during the warm-up, it takes your confidence and security away for the moment it really counts, in front of a paying audience.
@@henrygvidonas9573 Nobody does it because firstly they don't have the endurance to do it and secondly because of a kind of secrecy and narcissism. They want to impress with their "imaginative" set on stage without others knowing what songs it is. Also, the Ramones were warming up not rehearsing.
@@user-bl6ne3hc6n Williams went half-naked, not naked, and of course the Plasmatics were known for their on-stage debauchery. This is the exception and not the rule. After all, the Plasmatics were not a classic punk rock band but a mutation of punk rock. Also, a lot of them took drugs, but that's not typical of punk rock. Williams did other things in her public life that can't even be described as punk rock. It's not punk rock to be a bit of a porn star. Shoplifting and passing counterfeit money as well. And it's generally not punk rock to do what everyone else is doing, especially if they're a little deranged. In the early 70s there was no punk rock
By the way The Ladybirds, probably the first naked band on stage (females) in 1966, were not punk rock. Public nudity, in general, is hippie not punk rock.
That was actually pretty cool. But I imagine Johnny's stage was a sacred place. And he was such as asshole. Its a shame because he was so awesome. But he was no Joey or Dee Dee or Mark. Ask Jack when he is gonna make Stepbrothers 2!
The book that Marky Ramone wrote speaks on how much Johnny was an A-Hole! Even when Joey was dying in the hospital, Johnny refused to visit him... Joey was always the fun and easy going one!
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I really like how eloquently he tries to speak about being a dumb ass.
If you'd substituted "pretentiously" for "eloquently" I'd say you were spot on.
Did you ever read his autobiography?
Here it is:
My loser dad got me high before I was 13
I got into playing music.
I got high.
We made an album.
I went into rehab.
Released an album.
Got high again.
Fucked a couple famous chicks.
Got high.
Released an album
Rehab
Album
Rehab
Album
Now I own a dog.
@@Fordham1969 if he had just summed it up as "We were wasted and some people got upset by it."
I wonder how he'd feel if a band opening for the Chili Peppers pulled something like that.
Getting arrested in a foreign country for an obscene display on stage ain't cool. Especially if it wasn't your band.👎
That’s the longest I’ve heard him speak without mentioning California.
He mentions Louisiana and Indiana a lot too
FR 😂
Probably edited out every mention. Haha
Ha!
Haha, lmao. Yeah, he puts on that California kid thing in his book, and it's aged badly. I still love the band very much, but he can be kinda goofy sometimes.
"We didn't want to be THAT GUY" and try to steal the spotlight, or make it about us" after taking their clothes off and dancing across the stage naked in the middle of a song.
Different times.
End of tour pranks are pretty common, especially with underground bands. When you've got the young chili peppers you gotta be prepared. I think most bands would find it funny but with all the tension in the Ramones camp at this time I don't think it helped.
Precisely.
These kind of antics were 100% on brand for them at the time though
@@brianmcawesome all of you are missing the point. I don't care if they pranked them. It's just dishonest to pretend to be humble and courteous and say you didn't want to draw attention and take away from the band, when you took your clothes off and danced across the stage in the middle of their song. It's more about me not liking phonies or liars.
It's like wearing a t-shirt that says "look at me, I'm sexy and humble".
I met the Ramones way back when. Joey was by far the nicest, he actually responded when you talked to him.
@@aisle_of_view i belive that, he seems like a very nice person
My band went on tour with them in 79. Right out of high school. Joey was one of the nicest most humble human being you could possibly meet. He taught us a lot about the business, touring, marketing, management. I miss that man a lot. 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Just about story of fans meeting Joey or working with him is of him being humble, nice, and sweet. He had his moments, apparently, when he'd struggle with his OCD, but overall he was a good guy.
Johnny Ramone, on the other hand, is described as mean, bullying, and difficult to work with by his former bandmates. Marky Ramone did say that there needed to be someone who'd crack the whip and get guys like Dee Dee and Joey in line, and Johnny was happy to play the heavy.
Joey seemed like such a sweet guy, impossible not to like him. Even as I'm politically much more in line with Johnny...it's obvious Joey was a much more kind and cool guy than John ...
Got the privilege of meeting Joey before a show...super nice guy and offered me to drink out of the 5th of Jack he was murdering...had to take a big pull in that moment...thanks for being so cool Joey
Paying respect. Fucking guy
No shit lol
He’s an idiot or a liar haha saying that.
Yeah that ain't respect.
Johnny was raised by a Marine, and was a perfectionist by nurture. None of this story surprised me one bit.
"We danced with love in our hearts across the front of the stage, not that obnoxious thing..."
Well he did state they got off the stage pretty quickly. I think thats what he meant by the prank.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers had obnoxious antics back then and people I knew thought they were either funny or stupid. Here, it seems for the first time that they found out themselves that not everyone thought they were cool.
I'm not so sure. After reading Fleas and Anthony's autobiographies, they just wanted to be freaks. It was their thing. Undoubtedly they had already found out many times that their idea of fun isn't shared by the whole of humanity.
Johnny being johnny and joey being joey, no news on the front.
"We didn't realize the world doesn't revolve around us."
That has yet to happen.
Bro was shocked and confused by a rehearsal 😂
To be fair, I know of no other band that rehearses an entire set right before the gig. Especially if they have been on the road playing the same songs every night and really especially if they are all two minute, three chord punk songs.
I think just because they were The Ramones.
They danced naked on someone else’s stage because a band rehearsed their set. It was unprofessional and insulting. They deserved Johnnys wrath.
The fact that they did this without telling them beforehand, and he talked about their perfectionistic ritual beforehand, it was definitely not an homage. He felt they were uptight and wanted to show them. Sounds like he didn’t consider how they would take it, but it was definitely rude and defiant
Good point, you definitely know his intentions better than he does... 🙄
that doesn't sound correct at all
@@vincenzollamas Sure. They did it out of "respect."
@@petarticinovic2710 it wasn't meant to be a disrespect, clearly.
@@jr2904 But it was interpreted that way. Which is why Hillel Slovak wisely chose to have nothing to do with it.
in every story, Joey always sounds like a sweetheart of a guy
I bet joey was annoyed too, but was nice just to spite Johnny lol
That's funny
Joey actually laughed on stage when it happened
Ramones really wasn't a group of best friends. It's depressing to hear what their tours were like.
A little while ago in a long conversation about music with a friend he at some point said "to me RHCP and Jackass are the same thing", and I kind of agree with that.
Oddly as much as Johnny hated that stunt…. John Fuscanti became one of Johnnys good friend !!! 🤙🏽
John what?
and John was not a part of it, in the band at the time, so that helped! it sounds like they all basically made amends eventually anyway
This is as bad as when Rob Zombie told a story about when White Zombie was opening for the Ramones, on their last night, took out Silly String cans and silly stringed the Ramones when they were playing on stage. Let's just say Johnny Ramone tore Rob Zombie a new a$$hole.. They eventually became very good friends 😅
Los shows de los Ramones estaban planeados al milímetro y controlados por el que ponía el orden, Johnny. Todos uniformados, si Johnny avanzaba en el escenario, Dee Dee se supone que debía avanzar también siguiendo una coreografía. Cronometraban la duración del concierto, cada vez eran más rápidos. Bien pensado, todo bastante alejado de la filosofía punk. No fue buena idea la de salir al escenario.
I never thought I'd ever see AK speak longer than 10 seconds without mentioning his addiction or recovery 15 million times.
Kalifornia 🤪
Cool. I'd like to see his reaction to another band doing that during one of his shows.
Dancing across the stage naked at another band's show is the ultimate disrespect.
Or homage depending how punk rock you are. I'm positive Johnny was only pissed in the moment. Even if it took years, at some point, he smiled about it.
Can Kiedis really be this dumb to think streaking naked across the stage during anyone`s set is not about himself?
Depends on how you look at it. Seems like you're the dumb one.
It was stupid of him but I think he was looking at the Ramones like if they were a hardcore punk band. If they did that at an Exploited, Germs, Black Flag or Sex Pistols show the reaction would be more positive. This just shows the Ramones professionally were step above their peers which isn’t necessarily surprising
Get over it 😂
Johnny was the hard on and Joey was the laid back character…1 2 3 4
I don't blame him for being mad I would be pissed too
Relax zoomer
So let's get this straight.. 4 young musicians overstepped their bounds, and a veteran taught them manners.
So the very inflexible performance of a veteran professional and very commercial ‘punk’ band got spiced up a bit by some young mavericks doing something unexpected on stage and the autistic guitarist of said ‘punk’ band couldn’t handle it at all.
@wijk89 why do you keep saying "punk" like you're my aunt. They were a rock band, unlike the homo chili peppers
@@wijk89 why do you keep saying "pUnK" like you're my aunt lol. They were a rock band narc
@@jadong8989 It’s kinda self explanatory. If you can’t understand, there’s no real use in explaining as far as I’m concerned. Maybe your aunt will give it a go. You could always ask her to educate you. She knows you need it.
@@jadong8989 you kids listening to PUNK?
The comment section is pretty much like Johnny and Joeys reaction. “You assholes!”, “I thought it was pretty cool”
😂😂
Sounds like a lot of zoomers in the comments very triggered 😂
If you watch the actual foortage you can hear Joey trying not to laugh while singing.
Yeppp during "Cretin Hop"
(Johnny aggressively down picks harder and scowls even more in silent rage)
It didnt ruin the show, but asking permission first always helps. It's their performance and they were always a tight unit who didnt fuck around, which, in other words, means read the room and think before you act.
Shared a birthday with Johnny and CJ, so on my 17th birthday a friend who was security at the Ramones/Social Distortion show got me back stage to hang out with them. Johnny was matter of fact for sure but was supportive that I was headed off to the Army three days later. Joey was quiet but polite. Market was super friendly and CJ was telling me he had gone awol from the Marines to audition for the Ramones.
SD have always been polite, even though I may have told Mike Ness that night in a sycophantic haze that I loved the Stray Cats and SD reminded me of them.
Thanks for the story, man. That's great, I needed to hear that right now. Yeah, Johnny had two modes, before the night when he was smashing tvs and heard the voice, and after. I can't imagine the "serious professional" version of Johnny being anything but what you said. That band was a family of trauma. I identify with every member, but most of all, the dynamic. (They were a microcosm of America in that way.) I say this because I feel like maybe so do you. Whatever it was you went through, you survived. You will survive some more. There will be better days, and you will be glad you did. And you know this because it happened before. Don't ever lose sight of that. You may be on the verge of the best portion of your life, no matter how unlikely that all seems. I do not have a friend in the world, but every man like yourself is automatically my friend. I sincerely hope you see many more birthdays, good or better health, and wonders you've yet to even dream of. I'm just some dipshit on the internet, and I don't know anything about anything at all; but for some reason, and I do not know why, I believe strongy that you will.
I'm a diehard Ramones fan. I've never owned a single RHCP album in my life.
Good for you
And? Stop being a try hard dude.
Dancing naked "out of respect" lmfao
Lame and idiotic. Why did they think they had any right to do that?
Because they only think about themselves. They probably only talk about themselves.
Totally agree.
Heroin lol he left that part out
Holy crow,lighten up ladies. It was 36 years ago at a punk rock show. Most of those guys never really grow up so don’t look down on them for having a little fun before everyone became so…so…soft😂
🎶Hey ho,let’s go!!!
Hey ho,let’s go!!!🎶
@@mrdrumz2132 How do you know they "never really grow up?"😅
Joey always knew he was in a rock'n'roll band. Johnny was under the impression he was working in a concrete factory. Anyway, when this happened RHCP were still in the early part of their journey, on the upslope, when a band is an art project and it's about fun. The Ramones were long since out of that phase when this happened. The post peak, "it's just a business" phase, when a band really isn't creating anything new and interesting any more and just sort of performing to pay the bills and remind everyone they still exist. It's where most bands end up eventually.
Yeah I saw the Ramones a lot back when they started.. unfortunately after the first 2 or 3 LP's that shook the world they sorta became irrelevant except for die hard fans
The Chili Peppers and Metallica haven't reached this point even remotely...they being more creative than ever
The RHCP have never been an "art project."😆
@@petarticinovic2710 Of course they have. All bands/ musician are artists. Music is art, each note is a colour and you're essentially painting a picture with sound. 🤷♂
@@petarticinovic2710 And ya can't tell me Kiedis isn't wearing an art teachers top in this short. 🤷♂😂 ruclips.net/user/shortsRxBLqkqDTEQ?si=8DERsICRydzWYhn-
"For some reason Hillel didn't want to be a part of this shenanigan"
The Last Days of Hillel 😢
He sounds so smart. He takes forever to choose the right words that arent even right most times. Just to sound intelligent. Cause he s not the look at me guy. Nothing of this story or past behavior says that about him. .
i thought he really picked the right words, being economic and using as few words as possible and still avoiding confusion or being misunderstood
@@yellowstoneisthecoolestparkeve Because he's fucking embarrassed.😆
Sounds like you are projecting pretty hard.
@@petarticinovic2710If he was embarrassed, why would he tell the story?
@@Guitarisforgrins Self-pity.
It has been said that Johnny was an uptight “conservative” character, despite appearances, and it was a significant source of conflict with Joey.
His reaction in this story seems to fall in line with this assessment.
Yeah, you don't screw with 30 minutes of rock perfection
Joey ♥️♥️♥️
Ahhh Joey, you are missed my friend.
Geez he has a way with words 😂
You mean a LISP. LAZY TONGUE.
Testament to Hillel's cool, refined character. He was the only one who refused to participate.
'We weren't trying to be ,uhh ,look at me'..as describes getting naked and jumping into a spotlight on a stage,during the most popular song they Ever did. How could anyone get that idea? Thats rhcp in nutshell.
Johnny always did come off as uptight. But its that behavior that got the band going.
People like you really suck
He was all about money and business Joey and Dee Dee were around for the fun part (performing)
Proving Johnny Ramone wasn't really punk rock but the Peppers were
That’s just blasphemy
Peppers were narcissistic hippies. Period!
It was a joke
Let them know you were feeling them by dancing naked on their stage during their show???😂😂😂
Exposes one’s asshole on stage ”danced with love in our hearts across the stage” 😂
Anthony is the greatest singer on earth, the best looking person on earth and a lyrical genius. Just ask him, he will tell you it is so.
Anthony chooses his words very carefully
...and then I went and did a bunch of coke and was about to get kicked out of the band. but love. and forgiveness. and then more coke.
"Bizarre finnish compound" I'm guessing Sorsanpesä hotel since they were at provinssirock :D
That's Joey and Johnny all over.
I'm from Finland and my mom was at this concert in the Provinssirock festival. She remembers the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Ramones' concerts and of course the moment how Red Hot Chili Peppers "ruined" the Ramones concert. She also have met Joey Ramone after the show.
Yksi suosikki laulajiani ikinä, vaikutti sympaattiselta tyypiltä, mahdoton vihata. Respect.
@@tmm4461 Joey vaikutti munkin mielestä aika sympaattiselta tyypiltä ja voin uskoa että äidille Joeyn tapaaminen oli aika ikimuistoinen hetki, vaikka juttelivat vain hetken. Myös arvostan sitä miten Joey ei pillastunut RHCP:n tempauksista kesken keikan vaan oli heillekin tosi maanläheinen ja sanoi että "Musta toi oli siistiä". 😄
@@AnliaTheGothicGirl Kuulostaa 100% Joey Ramonelta! Huoh... liian aito tähän maailmaan. Pitää taas alkaa käydä läpi hänen vanhoja haastatteluja.
Johnny was a borderline militant very tough person to get close too
Johnny Ramone was/is/& will always be remembered as a super no nonsense dude... kinda the opposite of RHCP
Johnny was a straight up a-hole and disliked by alot of people. A legend for sure but this is a guy who Joey hated so much. Joey was very shy and Johnny stole his girlfriend. The KKK Took My Baby Away is about Johnny. He is the KKK. Johnny also refused to visit Joey on his deathbed and when inducted into the HOF he thanked George W Bush and not Johnny. Johnny however became close friends with John Frusciante as did his widow. They still hang out.
Chilis are still with us, kinda the opposite of Johnny
Never met the guy but most stories I have heard about Johnny was he wasn't really cool or nice. Joey on the other hand, all I hear are cool stories and the same with Dee Dee and the drummers.
The KKK Took My Baby Away is about Johnny.
I fucking hate the chilli peppers, and this pretty much wraps up why
We, The Drumbones, opened up for them (Chili Peps) in late November of 1985 here in Cincinnati at a place called Bogart's.
I’ve been a fan of both of these bands for a long time and every bit of this sounds like the members of RHCP being themselves, Johnny being Johnny & Joey being Joey.
It’s also not a surprise that Dee Dee didn’t say anything because he may not have even noticed the three extra people on stage and no one ever asked any of the Ramones drummers his opinion on anything.
So this all pretty much adds up to me as exactly what I would’ve expected to happen in that given situation.
That sort of thing has happened to me on stage as a guitar player in a band and at the time I was mad but when I went back at watched the video that they filmed that night I had to laugh wasn't that bad.
From the audience it's fun and enjoyable most of the time when something unexpected happens on stage, even if it's just the opening band coming back for a few seconds and dancing naked. I think it was kind of cool
Johnny was always different from the punk image, because he was blue collar conservative. I wonder if the pre-show ritual was for Joey to cop3 with his obsessive compulsive issues.
This is a wild story!
❤❤❤LONG LIVE THE RAMONES!!!❤❤❤
…… my old band used to do the same thing.
If given an opportunity before a gig,
We’d run off into the washroom or around back of the venue to quickly play through our songs.
We didn’t do the full songs, but we’d do intro verse chorus solo and outro quickly for each song.
Its not unheard of.
One of the guys from Chumbawamba did that to Smashing Pumpkin on German tv because Billy Corgan was acting like a total primadonna before the set.
Does anyone else think that was a bit cheeky considering what they have done in the past 😜
what happens if you knock a member of Chumbawamba down? he will get up again and have ciders and lagers
@@ackerjawaka1966 this was before Tubthumper. Chumbawamba were popular in Germany since the late 80's.
Well... There are bit better ways to "pay respect"
I always thought Rock n Roll was all about self expression, free will, and fighting the system, but nooooo, thanks to Johnny, it's all about the money and institutionalizing their brand...
When I do a song live performance I’ve played it three times earlier that day. They hit well then playing them is golden high quality woodwork.
Also it’s how the All Blacks play rugby, they reherse and so when they’re on the field they play so good.
"what they want I don't know they're all revved up and ready to go"
Classic Joey vs Johnny moment 🤣🤣🤣
I’m a huge fan of Ramones and Chili Peppers but, I think it’s telling when Joey liked it and Johnny didn’t. On a side note, Alice In Chains did the same thing to Van Halen.
Chains got boo'd off the stage in Miami, opening for VH. They sounded like crap, and acted like real douchebags. The crowd was there for VH, and because they played and sounded bad, they didn't win anyone over. In the end got pissed, threw a guitar down, gave the crowd the finger, and stormed off. All because they sounded like shit and the crowd wasn't digging it.
Johnny was said by others in the band to be like a drill sergeant
I think Johnny was the eldest and most conservative of the group.
I saw the Ramones at the channel in Boston, we saw Joey playing pinball and walked up to talk to him, this douche that was with him says "Joey doesn't wanna talk to you" and my friend immediately doused her with his beer, Joey just laughed
Yeah Joey was known for having one night stands lol
Dudo que Joey pudo verlos a un metro y medio
I ❤ the Ramones and RHCP.
Ramones increíble influencia para los rhcp realmente unos tipos geniales escuchar esto es increíble ...joey era muy especial❤❤❤
Johnny was a very no bullshit kind of a guy
Lessons learned for Anthony. Johnny doesn't dig it. Joey kinda did. And lastly, and most importantly. It must have been a very cold night, because Anthony mentions shrinkage a lot. 😂
Joey was sweating bad he was steaming
So much hate in the comments.. I’m pretty sure he got the memo, or he wouldn't have shared the story in the way he did. We’ve all done stupid shit at one point or another. Or maybe it’s just me..
Stop throwing the word hate around over other people's opinions. It's extremely weak.
@@KISEwun Don't you know, there is no valid entirely warranted criticism, only hAtErZZ
Right. We've all done stupid shit before. And usually reaped the consequences.
When I did this I got arrested.
Hahahaha 😂😂😂
We don't need to talk a opinion, this just happened. In the punk scene so many bands would liked it, and some bands didn't. In a day ok, other day bad. C'mon..
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If they did it during Cretin Hop I think it is kind of funny. Very early Chili Pepper like of them, definitely makes the show memorable, and yeah they were on stage and off, I feel it is perfect punk rock history.
I mean, you must’ve been a little aware of the dynamic of the band and their personalities. Johnny didn’t strike me as a guy that had friendly conversations with anybody ever. But you know anything that pisses off Johnny would make Joey tickled pink. Fire and Water those two.
I saw hundreds of great shows in the 80's-90's. Seeing Ramones twice was the greatest out of all of them. I knew at the age of 16 that I was witnessing rock and roll history and that I would never forget the feeling of stage diving in front of Joey, and subsequently break a rib in the process. Well worth it! I highly recommend reading "I Slept with Joey Ramone" by his brother Mickey. It is a page turner.
RHCP PDF FILE😂😂😂
One or all of them???
Johnny probably kicked their asses. He was known to get physical if someone messed up their show, even with his own band.
Johnny used to hit his first or second wife, can't remember. The band wouldn't have gone anywhere without him but he was a despicable human being.
He thinks rehearsing before the show is bizarre?
Considering RHCP has a punk background, yes, bizarre.
It IS bizarre. That's why nobody except The Ramones ever did that.
For 99.99% of musicians it's unthinkable, because for bands who aren't run by a sociopathic fascistic drill sergeant wannabe, there's a strict rule: If you have to rehearse your set or practise your guitar solos in the dressing room before the show, you've screwed up royally. You should be able to play your stuff in your sleep at that point. That's what rehearsals before a tour are for. If you want to try new stuff in the middle of a tour, you rehearse it at the soundchecks, not directly before the gig. You usually don't play anything you're going to play on stage while your're warming up. Because if you screw it up during the warm-up, it takes your confidence and security away for the moment it really counts, in front of a paying audience.
They did it to warm up,with the drummer playing on boxes or guitar cases,it went way back,one of dee Dee's goofy ideas 😊
@@henrygvidonas9573 Nobody does it because firstly they don't have the endurance to do it and secondly because of a kind of secrecy and narcissism. They want to impress with their "imaginative" set on stage without others knowing what songs it is. Also, the Ramones were warming up not rehearsing.
I'm sure the Finn's loved it even if the R's didn't.
Are the subtitles so you can voice over Anthony's words as he's saying them? Asking for a friend.
How long was a Ramones set at the time? Half hour?
1988 so maybe 55 minutes at best.
I get that RHCP were wrong for that, but everything I’ve heard about Johnny has made me like him less.
Being naked is so punk rock,
Since when?
@nkscou9008 since the early 70s, and of course the 80s Wendy O Williams,
@@user-bl6ne3hc6n Williams went half-naked, not naked, and of course the Plasmatics were known for their on-stage debauchery. This is the exception and not the rule. After all, the Plasmatics were not a classic punk rock band but a mutation of punk rock. Also, a lot of them took drugs, but that's not typical of punk rock. Williams did other things in her public life that can't even be described as punk rock. It's not punk rock to be a bit of a porn star. Shoplifting and passing counterfeit money as well. And it's generally not punk rock to do what everyone else is doing, especially if they're a little deranged. In the early 70s there was no punk rock
By the way The Ladybirds, probably the first naked band on stage (females) in 1966, were not punk rock. Public nudity, in general, is hippie not punk rock.
@nkscou9008 what's the difference, my gosh, thank you for the history lesson, ,
Joey the most lovely guy in the bussiness in the same band as Johnny hatefull. Paradoxal.
That was actually pretty cool. But I imagine Johnny's stage was a sacred place. And he was such as asshole. Its a shame because he was so awesome. But he was no Joey or Dee Dee or Mark. Ask Jack when he is gonna make Stepbrothers 2!
I'll bet Joey thought it was cool just cause it pissed off Johnny.
Yeah he loved to annoy Johnny i remember when Joey called Johnny a "facist creep" at Howard Stern in 1999
The Ramones had every right to be pissed. But saying that the show was "ruined" is a bit of a stretch.
Sounds completely on brand for Johnny(R.I.P.) and Joey(R.I.P.)
The book that Marky Ramone wrote speaks on how much Johnny was an A-Hole! Even when Joey was dying in the hospital, Johnny refused to visit him... Joey was always the fun and easy going one!