Please watch through to the end. When an athlete dies it rocks the sports medicine community as we ask what went wrong? What happened? and for me, would I have been prepared? The second half of the video is my candid thoughts as a doctor who cares for athletes as I reflect on this story and what we can take away from it. My thoughts to Timur's family, friends, teammates, and all involved. May we all learn from this tragedy to do our best to ensure it never happens again.
You really care for these people even though you don’t know them personally. You re a great person, a great doctor, and a great youtuber. I learn so much, not just about sports medicine, but how to be a good person from you. Thank you so much for the uploads
This is really tragic. I hope that the person who struck him doesn't dwell too much on this :( Is there any protection provided for the neck considering that this could happen to any player during hockey? It's already dangerous enough.
My detective sergeants son went snow boarding in VT back in 2004. He fell and hit a tree with a girth size of a roll of dimes. A small tree. EMS arrived in minutes and he was not breathing and had no pulse. Only visible sign was a scrape on the temple area. He passed away. He was 17 and was in the process of getting a full scholarship as a pitcher. He broken so many pitching records in CT.
I’ve taken a hit to that spot in hockey, right near the ear in high school and felt like my whole world had been rocked. My ear was ringing and I was dizzy and sat out the rest of the period, but it went away. This coulda been me, coulda been any of us that have played hockey their entire lives. Just an absolutely awful situation, looked like such a routine play. Helmets need to protect that area yesterday. Just really heart breaking. RIP Timur
as a hockey player myself, i hate to admit but i rarely see people wear their helmets properly because of style, but this was just such a fluke. Rest easy Timur❤️
so fucked, i wish there was more face protection for hockey players. i don’t get how people r launching a solid puck at 50mph into bodies 40 times a game and no one thinks u should have full face shields
ive been hit by pucks many times in the head, and im lucky to have no major lasting injuries, only predisposition to getting a concussion. so tragic that this happened to him. my prayers, RIP
@@cobii5174 it’s more like 90mph+, and players me included just complain about vision, pucks to the head happen all the time but it usually just gets fixed with stitches. Still love the game tho
@@cobii5174 most junior leagues most notably the NCAA requires face shields. The problem is that most if not all high level players choose visibility over safety. I'm not sure what the KHL rules are but in the NHL they're only allowed to wear a face shield if they have a broken jaw or something like that
@@Bbistheman_ yeah it's actually insane that they aren't allowed to wear a full cage. But I think it really comes down to visibility. No NHL player in their right mind would willingly play with a cage because of how much it obscures their vision. Look at goalie masks for example, there are actually large spaces in the cage where the eyes are. I'm pretty sure a puck could end up finding it's way through there. Its very dangerous but at the NHL level I guess that's what it takes to make those extra saves/plays. But obviously things like this are even more heartbreaking when they happen at at a junior level.
Thank you for being extremely calm and pedagogical about this. I was worrying clicking this video it would be someone riding the tragedy wave for views, but this is really informative and shows respect for Timur, his family and the team.
@@mnsmn1834 California. I am old bro. 25 with grey hairs been around a few blocks. First homie died around 16. I lost 2 to covid, to be fair, this year Alot of ODs car accidents and out right suicide. You learn to cherish moments.
I had a similar experience happen in 2019. Formula 2 driver Anthoine Hubert died after a really bad crash at the Belgian Grand Prix. He was born two days after me and died at 22. Life isn’t fair.
You're not only quick with the medical explanation, but you're the first to even report on this out of all the Sports Channels I follow. Terrible tragedy, but thank you for sharing. 💯
@Tevin Grouse on their regular website or? Because nothing of this is on their RUclips channel -- because it doesn't involve LeBron, Dak Prescott or Kyrie Irving.
RIP Timur. As a former hockey player and as a hockey dad this is tough. He is the same age as my daughter who plays and just a few years younger then my son who plays.
Very sad. I know they probably won’t see this but still my utmost sympathies to his family, team mates, opposing team, and the Russian hockey community. The puck speed is 100 mph, or 44.704 m/s The mass of the puck is 170 g Getting hit at 100+ mph by a hockey puck...I can’t imagine...then hit in an extremely vulnerable area, damn.
@@crazymonkeydude10 Which to me makes it scarier because it wasn't some huge 100 mph slap shot from Chara, this was routine play that could happen at Friday morning drop in.
That was my tought too, 90% players take them out. If he got struck on temple, it is where ear guard should protect, if your helmet is a bit high it is exposed. Shot wasn’t that strong.
Not sure why, I personally dont even notice them. Neck guards are way more uncomfortable but I'd still wear one. Crazy to think hockey players didnt wear helmets, goalies didnt have masks
Correct, many players do take the ear guards out. Though it being for reasons of comfort is left to debate. Some players will swear they take the guards out so they can hear better, all other sorts of excuses. As a whole, it's worth having a serious conversation with the hockey player in your life (i.e. your own child) to make sure they're not taking off the guards just to be fashionable or just because everyone else does it.
In jrs I always kept my ear piece in, after seeing people ears get ripped off...we had to hold a game for 10 mins while we searched for the ear on our teams bench, the stands, and in our equipment
All hockey helmets ship with an ear covering that protects the ear. High-level players remove them to improve hearing on the ice. In youth hockey (below juniors) USA Hockey mandates that players keep the ear protection in the helmet, but once you reach a higher level that rule goes away. If you look at Sidney Crosby, you’ll see he is one of the rare NHLers that keeps the ear pieces in place.
I wouldn't be surprised if the NHL, and other leagues, will make the guards mandatory in the future, to prevent this. The shields weren't at one point, but now are...So could do the same with the ear guards.
@@STARPHASE I’d be very surprised if they did. That type of thing would have to be collectively bargained with the NHLPA, as were they visors. The NHLPA was the reason it too so long for the visors to become mandatory, they fought it for at least a decade (and in the end, players not wearing visors were grandfathered in, so there are still a handful out there that don’t). Given the rarity of this, I doubt the NHL would want to start a fight with the PA over the issue.
Hey Brian, as a medical student I just want to say I have a ton of respect for the way you operate this channel. Really great discussion of the medicine and the humanity of sports. Thanks for the vids and keep it up 👍
Thank you for sharing your knowledge Brian!! I’m a lifelong hockey player myself and like many others I was surprised by the impact this seemingly innocent high puck had. Your ‘breakdown’ on this tragic incident is really insightful for everyone and especially for the hockey community. Rest easy, Timur❤️
Rest In Peace, my prayers go out to his family, friends, and teammates. Brian, thank you for keeping your composure and educating your audience on how and why things like this can happen. I could tell you were definitely shaken up, but thank you for being informative and also respectful. that’s gotta be the hardest part of being a doctor, seeing death, speaking of death, and explaining death. Thanks man, love your channel. Very cool and very unique.
this is absolutely heartbreaking, and from what seemed like such a harmless play. my thoughts go out to the family and whoever is a victim of this horrible accident...
i loved what you pointed out about every time an athlete steps out we are assuming some risk. and you're right, its better to sit out and let yourself heal, even if it means missing the big game, then making your injury worse. i also hope that coaches will start to step up and make sure their athletes are well enough to play if they know that they had an injury in the past few weeks or days. thank you for covering these tragic things and being vocal about your opinions. we need more people like you today. :)
That was a case of arterial dissection. The same thing killed my father last year - unrelated to sports. Obviously something I spend a lot of time thinking about, and the first thing that came to mind when I saw this. Hard objects striking the neck/base of the jaw usually do nothing but absolutely can kill you if you get unlucky. Cricket instituted helmet changes after this and hockey probably should too. Obviously there will always be some risk and we can 't spend our lives wrapped in foam just in case - but if we're gonna wear a helmet it should probably protect as much as possible.
I thought of his tragic loss too. But it did lead to equipment change to reduce the chances of a similar incident, maybe hockey should follow suit, especially as the work has already been done?
Was just about to recommend the same. I don't think people from non-Cricketing nations realise the danger in the game- partly because they've never felt and held a cricket ball and assume it's a long, slow paced sport. He was a great talent.
Such a professional way of handling this sensitive manner of a video. Hats off to you for covering it perfectly and my sincerest of condolences to the poor young man's family 🙏🏻
Hockey is a crazy sport. The players wear blades on their feet. The puck is small and dense enough to kill a person with the right contact. A baseball could do that too... but baseball players don't have the blades on their feet. Those guys just take on more risk than most when they take the ice. This is a tragic accident but a rare one. Nothing really needs to be done. It will happen once every few hundred years. Terrible luck.
First off, Rest in Peace Brother Timur. Secondly, I just subbed because we have finally found a guy who gave a breakdown on injuries to prevent or to be aware of. Thank you for your calm and peaceful tone, it makes me have more faith in the art of Medicine.
This is why I wear ear guards and a full cage on my hockey helmet. The first ever game I played without a cage I took a stick to the face and put that shit right back on. I'm not getting paid to play, I'm not risking my health just so I can look cool.
facts but it's diff at the NHL level, if guys shooting the puck at 100mph have their vision effected by a cage it's only going to INCREASE how often they hit someone with their shots.
@@highverson6402 maybe for those who've never worn full cages, but you get used to the slight impairment in vision. Plus basically everyone, at least in NA, wears them until at least midget level anyway. Making them mandatory across the league would also level the playing field, if they grandfathered it like helmets and visors before it won't stick.
@@highverson6402 goaltenders were a cage and they clearly see the puck. I play with a cage and without my glasses and can easily shoot accurately. Stop with your bullshit.
@@th3oryO They could get use to playing blind folded as well, that's not a good point to make at all, also the numbers show higher concussion numbers in NA leagues Especially at the college level compared to leagues that do not require a cage, Just because it's what they do doesn't mean it's the best.
As a former player I’ve seen ALOT, and when these outcomes happen it really does shock me. I’ve seen some plays visually sooooo far worse than what happened here and absolutely nothing came of it. Things where you’d swear this player is done for the season or his career and next thing you know, they’re playing the next game. So these are always a shock to former players like myself. Having said that, great content, and you hit the nail on the head with this video Brian. Keep it up
Excellent video as always. Thoughts and prayers to Timur's family, friends and teammates. Hockey is an amazing sport and I love it dearly, such a shame that something like this happened :(
Hockey helmets actually come with ear guards that are mandatory in some leagues, especially for younger players. Most older players remove them. A small number of NHL players - Sidney Crosby, Patrick Kane, and Evgeni Malkin, for instance - have kept theirs at the pro level. I'm not sure how much protection they offer for the temporal bone, but they do offer protection for the ear and that area.
@@bobbya8628 On the other hand visors/cages limits your situation awareness as they are a bit of distraction and that is I would say the main reason players ditching them. R.I.P. Timur Condolences to all affected by this unfortunate and sad tragedy.
Very informative. Thank you. Made me grab my hockey helmet and really pay attention to what‘s exposed. I‘ve taken pucks/sticks to the face, but luckily I wear a cage. The idea of getting hit in the neck area is awful. A terrible tragedy on such an innocent play
I think one thing that is worth mentioning is that the hospital he was in at Yaroslavl was unequipped to perform the neurosurgery needed to save his life and likely wouldn't have survived the transfer to Moscow to have it performed. He definitely would've survived had he been in Moscow at the time of injury. The NHL will never adapt a cage as the players don't want it as it obstructs their vision and the NHL doesn't want it as it protects the faces of their stars. Both parties don't want it, however, can see something like ear guards becoming a discussion in the future.
Incredibly tragic situation. Always sad to see a life lost but especially when a kids life gets cut short. Truly hope the player who shot the puck will also recover mentally and psychologically from this incident. Rip 🙏🏽 Also, this video was very well done doc. As a former athlete who suffered MANY levels of ankle sprains and a few concussions I definitely appreciate your knowledge.
A similar accident happened to Phillip Hugh, who passed away after getting hit with a ball against his neck while playing cricket. After that incident, helmet regulations were changed in order to provide more protection to the players. It's sad that something bad must first happen to the players until regulations are changed on the protective equipment.
A point about not hiding the head injury... I completely agree, as I experienced this first hand. I used to wrestle but one day during middle school wrestling practice this one kid smacked my face into the mat and I was knocked out for just a few seconds.. didn’t tell the coaches nor my parents... this was like 2 months before wrestling season was over too so I was wrestling with a concussion, then when wrestling season ended my mom wanted me to just get looked at before track season just to make sure my body was all good. Doc confirmed I had a concussion and it was so bad I had to be out of school for the last 2-3 months of school. When high school came I was gonna do wrestling and football but I was told I could never do it again due to that. Point of the story is never hide your head injuries!
I dont watch hockey but when I heard this from Instagram, I was like wtf how is this possibly? It seems like he would just be in temporary pain or the most, a broken broke. Him being only 19 doing what he loves just makes this even more sadder. I also feel really bad for the shooter, even though it was an accident, people who are innocently involved hold onto the trauma and "what ifs" and get a lot of hate for being the "killer"
First of all, I feel for the family of this young man who is gone too soon. It's cold comfort to say "he died doing what he loved" in playing hockey. As a cyclist, I have lost friends from accidents, and I have had terrible accidents on the road. Safety does matter, but you will never mitigate all the risks. To try and take all the risks out of the sport, any sport, will destroy the game or sport. May it be cycling or soccer or hockey or football. There is risk, there is a chance you hurt yourself every time you compete, and hurt yourself that you never compete again.
Such a tragic outcome. As casual observers, we may under-appreciate the risks of such a small but deadly object. A Philadelphia Little Flyers player and great prospect named Brian Page, suffered a broken neck during a tournament last November in Trenton NJ. Thankfully, he is alive and in good spirits. I would love to see your take on his injury and potential recovery of ambulation.
I always wondered why hockey helmets don’t cover the whole face and chin. I play lacrosse and it’s basically like hockey on a field, but the helmets cover our whole face similar to a football helmet just shaped differently. Especially when there’s such a fast moving object being passed and shot I feel that there should be helmets that cover the whole head
According to a Wikipedia list, this young fellow is the 25th on-ice/immediate post-game fatality in competitive hockey and he was the fourth to die after being hit by the puck. Hockey is such a dangerous sport.
Big Nascar fan here and there have been a lot of deaths due to what they say is a basilar skull fracture i would love to see a video about what actually happens and what actually causes the driver to pass for reference I'm talking about the death of Dale Earnhardt Sr in 01
Love that you’re doing more hockey videos! By chance could you review Ondrej Pavelec or Michal Neuvirth’s collapse sometime? Both were very similar and I’ve always wondered what they were caused by. Thanks!
Thanks for the video and your explanation. Thanks for showing the images of the helmet. I've watched a bit of hockey, and I still somehow had the impression that the helmets had a piece that came down over the ears a little bit more. I wonder whether an ear cage would be beneficial without hampering the players. Even if the cage were just soft elastomer that couldn't stop the puck, any absorption of the puck's energy could reduce the damage.
Philip Hughes I think had a similar injury he was a cricketer. It reminds me very much of his injury . Both seemed shaken then collapsed and never got up.
We had ear hole covers for a year in the 90's but they interfered with hearing and so called "2 ships in the night" collisions happened every game. Concussions went through the roof.
This reminds of Phillip Hughes, a young cricket batsman on the Australian national team. He was hit in the neck & died from a carotid dissection (I think) a few years ago. His death led to changes being made to cricket helmets, etc. It was a freak accident really. The ball was thrown as a bouncer & just came up off the ground @ such angle that it slipped under the face/neck shield. Very, very sad
Such a tragedy a young healthy man struck down at such a young age. Wishing his family, friends, teammates, and fans the strength to face your loss and eventually as time goes on hoping you find acceptance. I hope the league, science, and sports doctors study how this happens and find a way to try and prevent it from happening again. Praying for you all🙏
Please doc, explain the tragedy of choirul huda. The legendary goalkeeper played with persela lamongan in indonesian league who passed away 3 years ago because of knock with his teammate. Thanks
Such a freak chance that's so sad. It's crazy how quickly he went downhill. From spinning on the ice to being out cold in minutes. Such a common play that happens all the time and it wasn't even a slapper or particularly hard shot. Hope the kid who shot the puck is getting some counseling. I cant imagine that it would be easy to cope, let alone go back out onto the ice after that. Tragic all around.
as a french we are not really fan of hockey so i don't know anything about it, but i never thought hockey could be as brutal as someone would die from playing ! that's crazy !
Just saw the video on TikTok and was saddened and curious about what actually happened. Seems like you really know your stuff. Of course RIP to Timur. Also feel bad for the player who hit the puck. Obviously a freak accident and I’m sure he’s having a rough time. Not a huge hockey fan, I don’t follow the sport at all but it just seems so dangerous. Saddened by the entire situation.
This is sad and prayers for the family and as a rangers fan something similar happens to zucc and almost ended his career puck shots is super dangerous
I feel like this could happen in almost every sport, I’m willing to bargain we’ve all been hit in the face or head by a ball, or been tackled and banged our heads. It’s part of life in a way but as a society we need to build that understanding and those protective attitudes towards our brains and other peoples brains, instead of reinforcing the negative tropes that then create further traumas down the line. Absolutely love the content I feel like a part time neurologist because of Bri
Brian. You might be interested in doing a video on an Australian Cricket player names Philip Hughes. He sadly passed away from what was believed to be a similar injury. The manufacturers of Cricket helmets in Australia changed after his death. Might be interested to cover as a follow on from this video.
You should look at the death of Phil Hughes, struck in the neck by a cricket ball leading to vertebral artery dissection, a massive stroke and death 2 days later
Its not just the players that need to be careful. There was a massage therapist i got to work with that told me he was nailed square in the forehead from a hockey puck during practice. It was a complete accident and i'm so surprised that he only walked away with a lump, however it could have been a lot worse.
Hey man, super insightful information on the accident, and I think you presented your thoughts in a way that is respectful of such a recent tragedy. I just wanted to point out that your thumbnail does give off a a bit of a bad look though. With the pic of your body taking up the same amount of space as the pic of Timur, and the cartoon-y style text, comes a major feeling of inauthenticity and egotism as this death is so recent, and gives a vibe that you are just looking for views and likes in a super dark time. Again, everything else you did was very respectful in my opinion, but you might want to give the thumbnail a look if you worry about your image.
Thanks for the feedback. This was a tough thumbnail to make..I see what you mean with the font and proportions, tried to change it up a bit to be a bit more neutral and have his part stand out (font color). I include myself in my thumbnails to make them stand out and show that it's a person talking, not just clips or photos, but you're right, this one was a challenge, so thank you for the feedback. WHile it still might not be perfect, I hope it gives a better vibe now with the update. Glad you were able to see through it and still watch to hear my thoughts and thanks for the comment.
This same thing happened in the game of cricket with an Australian player Phillip Hughes. He got hit by the cricket ball at the exact same place: back of neck, behind his ear. He died 2 days later. He is the one and only player who got hit at that place in the history of cricket. And after this incident, helmet designs are changed now. I hope same happens for hockey as well. Rest in Peace champs..🙏🏼
WOW 😳 Dr. Sutterer Earlier today, I'd just watched your vid of the soccer player who got knee'd by a teammate It's amazing how you basically covered that that type of blow could cause serious damage and even death Here, It actually did.... And I just watched you explain this a couple of hrs ago where no serious injury had occurred But You noted sports needs to remove all these scenarios before s death occurred Sad it's happened only moments after my viewing that footage of the soccer incident SMH The American Sports Federation or whoever oversees safety for all sports needs to expeditiously rectify all unaddressed possible safety risks in sports 🙏My condolences to the deceased family 😇
Thank you for not showing the part of the video where he goes completely limp (and you realize he's probably dead) and his friends are scrambling to get him on the backboard... that was traumatizing.
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Please watch through to the end. When an athlete dies it rocks the sports medicine community as we ask what went wrong? What happened? and for me, would I have been prepared? The second half of the video is my candid thoughts as a doctor who cares for athletes as I reflect on this story and what we can take away from it. My thoughts to Timur's family, friends, teammates, and all involved. May we all learn from this tragedy to do our best to ensure it never happens again.
You really care for these people even though you don’t know them personally. You re a great person, a great doctor, and a great youtuber. I learn so much, not just about sports medicine, but how to be a good person from you. Thank you so much for the uploads
This is really tragic. I hope that the person who struck him doesn't dwell too much on this :( Is there any protection provided for the neck considering that this could happen to any player during hockey? It's already dangerous enough.
Respect.
My detective sergeants son went snow boarding in VT back in 2004. He fell and hit a tree with a girth size of a roll of dimes. A small tree. EMS arrived in minutes and he was not breathing and had no pulse. Only visible sign was a scrape on the temple area. He passed away.
He was 17 and was in the process of getting a full scholarship as a pitcher. He broken so many pitching records in CT.
Can you explain pcl tears I torn my and I want to get more information about pcl
I’ve taken a hit to that spot in hockey, right near the ear in high school and felt like my whole world had been rocked. My ear was ringing and I was dizzy and sat out the rest of the period, but it went away. This coulda been me, coulda been any of us that have played hockey their entire lives. Just an absolutely awful situation, looked like such a routine play. Helmets need to protect that area yesterday. Just really heart breaking.
RIP Timur
My friend took a slapshot right to the side of the head
@@joeydimeo2265 I wonder if hit him in the neck similar to the cricketer who died Philip Hughes.
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Was legit thinking the same thing, coulda happened to any of us
I took a slap shot to my ankle once, my ears were ringing for weeks.. god bless
as a hockey player myself, i hate to admit but i rarely see people wear their helmets properly because of style, but this was just such a fluke.
Rest easy Timur❤️
so fucked, i wish there was more face protection for hockey players. i don’t get how people r launching a solid puck at 50mph into bodies 40 times a game and no one thinks u should have full face shields
ive been hit by pucks many times in the head, and im lucky to have no major lasting injuries, only predisposition to getting a concussion. so tragic that this happened to him. my prayers, RIP
@@cobii5174 it’s more like 90mph+, and players me included just complain about vision, pucks to the head happen all the time but it usually just gets fixed with stitches.
Still love the game tho
@@cobii5174 most junior leagues most notably the NCAA requires face shields. The problem is that most if not all high level players choose visibility over safety. I'm not sure what the KHL rules are but in the NHL they're only allowed to wear a face shield if they have a broken jaw or something like that
@@Bbistheman_ yeah it's actually insane that they aren't allowed to wear a full cage. But I think it really comes down to visibility. No NHL player in their right mind would willingly play with a cage because of how much it obscures their vision. Look at goalie masks for example, there are actually large spaces in the cage where the eyes are. I'm pretty sure a puck could end up finding it's way through there. Its very dangerous but at the NHL level I guess that's what it takes to make those extra saves/plays. But obviously things like this are even more heartbreaking when they happen at at a junior level.
Thank you for being extremely calm and pedagogical about this. I was worrying clicking this video it would be someone riding the tragedy wave for views, but this is really informative and shows respect for Timur, his family and the team.
First time I've ever seen someone use the word pedagogical
@@chr1spys forreal 🤣 I had to search that up to see what it meant
@@chr1spys really? 😅 It's pretty common in Sweden 😊
@@G4MEOVERdose America...our education system isnt the greatest😂
@@G4MEOVERdose same in germany
i couldn’t imagine how the guy who went for a simple dump in and ending up killing him feels
God bless that guy - can you even imagine
how this accident happen?
@@mateuszcielas3362 it’s in the beginning of the vid. Sone guy went to shoot or pass the pick and hit the guy in the head.
@@latrelljack8751 i thought there s something else to this story
@@mateuszcielas3362 it’s a normal play that happens 100 times each game, it was just a really unfortunate situation
Prayers for his family
How does that help?
Actually pray, don’t just type it. Get on your knees and actually pray
Yes✝️✝️✝️✝️
Amen
@@ReinhardP shut up wise guy he’s being respectful
I was born at the very end of 1999 and Timur was born in 2001. It’s just weird when people my age / of my generation die like this.
Welcome to Adulthood brother. It was about my 8th friend when I became desensitized to death. You will stop feeling soon. Still tragic though.
@@MRIscanmanWhat? You either are old, have lots of friends or lived in a warzone. So which one is it?
@@mnsmn1834 California. I am old bro. 25 with grey hairs been around a few blocks. First homie died around 16. I lost 2 to covid, to be fair, this year Alot of ODs car accidents and out right suicide. You learn to cherish moments.
I had a similar experience happen in 2019. Formula 2 driver Anthoine Hubert died after a really bad crash at the Belgian Grand Prix. He was born two days after me and died at 22. Life isn’t fair.
It can happy to 14 year olds too. My neighbour broke his jaw from a punk and hes 14. Imagine if the puck hit by his ear
Man, I feel awful for the poor kid that innocently fired the puck that did the damage.
Exactly my thiught, i hope he can connect with Timur’s family and not live with guilt as the family too gets closure
It’s literally a scar for the guy’s entire life. Damn. Hope it can heal a bit at least.
Imagine how Timur's family must be feeling then...
@@s.s7337 I think that goes without saying, didn't think it was necessary to state the obvious......
@@amishabe8085 Ok. Did the kid use a machine or just threw it with his hands? It generated enough force to kill an adult man
You're not only quick with the medical explanation, but you're the first to even report on this out of all the Sports Channels I follow.
Terrible tragedy, but thank you for sharing. 💯
@Tevin Grouse on their regular website or? Because nothing of this is on their RUclips channel -- because it doesn't involve LeBron, Dak Prescott or Kyrie Irving.
RIP Timur. As a former hockey player and as a hockey dad this is tough. He is the same age as my daughter who plays and just a few years younger then my son who plays.
Im so sorry for the guy who hit him tho. The guilt must be unbearable to know that you killed someone. Rest in peace Timur
The speed of Hockey is one of the scariest and most dangerous aspects.
Very sad. I know they probably won’t see this but still my utmost sympathies to his family, team mates, opposing team, and the Russian hockey community.
The puck speed is 100 mph, or 44.704 m/s
The mass of the puck is 170 g
Getting hit at 100+ mph by a hockey puck...I can’t imagine...then hit in an extremely vulnerable area, damn.
Not to take anything away from the tragedy but that puck was going max 60mph
The Puck wasnt going 100 mph probably 40 o 50 miles an hour. Still super painful and rip timur
That was more of a dump in and not a full on shot, prob more like 40 mph, just caught him in an unbelievably bad spot.
@Regina Filangi Def not in a dump in as well more around 40mph probly
@@crazymonkeydude10 Which to me makes it scarier because it wasn't some huge 100 mph slap shot from Chara, this was routine play that could happen at Friday morning drop in.
hockey helmets come with ear guards from the company’s. most players, however, opt to take them off as they can be very uncomfortable
That was my tought too, 90% players take them out. If he got struck on temple, it is where ear guard should protect, if your helmet is a bit high it is exposed. Shot wasn’t that strong.
Not sure why, I personally dont even notice them. Neck guards are way more uncomfortable but I'd still wear one.
Crazy to think hockey players didnt wear helmets, goalies didnt have masks
I’m a goalie but I have a player helmet I leave them in because even with the goalie helmet it still hurts like hell
Correct, many players do take the ear guards out. Though it being for reasons of comfort is left to debate. Some players will swear they take the guards out so they can hear better, all other sorts of excuses. As a whole, it's worth having a serious conversation with the hockey player in your life (i.e. your own child) to make sure they're not taking off the guards just to be fashionable or just because everyone else does it.
In jrs I always kept my ear piece in, after seeing people ears get ripped off...we had to hold a game for 10 mins while we searched for the ear on our teams bench, the stands, and in our equipment
All hockey helmets ship with an ear covering that protects the ear. High-level players remove them to improve hearing on the ice. In youth hockey (below juniors) USA Hockey mandates that players keep the ear protection in the helmet, but once you reach a higher level that rule goes away. If you look at Sidney Crosby, you’ll see he is one of the rare NHLers that keeps the ear pieces in place.
I wouldn't be surprised if the NHL, and other leagues, will make the guards mandatory in the future, to prevent this. The shields weren't at one point, but now are...So could do the same with the ear guards.
@@STARPHASE I’d be very surprised if they did. That type of thing would have to be collectively bargained with the NHLPA, as were they visors. The NHLPA was the reason it too so long for the visors to become mandatory, they fought it for at least a decade (and in the end, players not wearing visors were grandfathered in, so there are still a handful out there that don’t). Given the rarity of this, I doubt the NHL would want to start a fight with the PA over the issue.
Good insight!
This reminds me a bit of what happened to Phil Hughes an Australian cricketer who was struck on the neck leading to an artery dissection
Yes I remember that
Helmet manufacturers have since introduced the Stem Guard. Not 100% on how useful these will be in preventing a repeat situation.
My first thoughts.
Same here. Vertebral artery dissection. Blunt trauma below and behind the ear.
Hey Brian, as a medical student I just want to say I have a ton of respect for the way you operate this channel. Really great discussion of the medicine and the humanity of sports. Thanks for the vids and keep it up 👍
Thank you for sharing your knowledge Brian!! I’m a lifelong hockey player myself and like many others I was surprised by the impact this seemingly innocent high puck had. Your ‘breakdown’ on this tragic incident is really insightful for everyone and especially for the hockey community.
Rest easy, Timur❤️
Never thought that could really happen in hockey... Condolences to his family :(
The neck is exposed and pucks are going 100 plus mph. Im shocked it didnt happen sooner
@@kyartick8502 that puck was going 45 mph max, and it hit him higher than the neck it looks like
Is it normal to hit the puck into the air? I watch but not a lot to know the little things.
@@Rangelong yes, to get the puck deep into the offensive zone and then go for a line change
@@Rangelong Yes... but rarely does it hit someone in the head and this is the first time I've heard of someone dying playing hockey :(
Thanks for doing all the videos i request brian !
What makes you think that LMAO
This is a tough one to make a video about but I feel like it was done very well and very respectfully. Good work 👍🏼
R.I.P I never watched hockey but man this is tragic
@Regina Filangi Thats the case in most contact sports. Unfortunately, there are always going to be risks
Always minimize the cost of injury with in reason. I swear if they come out in hamster balls I'm out.
This hurts to see man, I was born in 95 I feel ancient compared. I feel for his family
I am lucky to come across ur channel doc. It’s really rare to meet a medical professional and an avid sports fan. Your content really captivates me.
Rest In Peace, my prayers go out to his family, friends, and teammates.
Brian, thank you for keeping your composure and educating your audience on how and why things like this can happen. I could tell you were definitely shaken up, but thank you for being informative and also respectful. that’s gotta be the hardest part of being a doctor, seeing death, speaking of death, and explaining death.
Thanks man, love your channel. Very cool and very unique.
this is absolutely heartbreaking, and from what seemed like such a harmless play. my thoughts go out to the family and whoever is a victim of this horrible accident...
i loved what you pointed out about every time an athlete steps out we are assuming some risk. and you're right, its better to sit out and let yourself heal, even if it means missing the big game, then making your injury worse. i also hope that coaches will start to step up and make sure their athletes are well enough to play if they know that they had an injury in the past few weeks or days. thank you for covering these tragic things and being vocal about your opinions. we need more people like you today. :)
Do Phillip Hughes, an amazing Australian cricketer that passed away after getting hit in the neck by the ball
This is the first incident that I thought about. Sad
@@tealsquare Me too, so sad :(
That was a case of arterial dissection. The same thing killed my father last year - unrelated to sports. Obviously something I spend a lot of time thinking about, and the first thing that came to mind when I saw this.
Hard objects striking the neck/base of the jaw usually do nothing but absolutely can kill you if you get unlucky. Cricket instituted helmet changes after this and hockey probably should too. Obviously there will always be some risk and we can 't spend our lives wrapped in foam just in case - but if we're gonna wear a helmet it should probably protect as much as possible.
I thought of his tragic loss too. But it did lead to equipment change to reduce the chances of a similar incident, maybe hockey should follow suit, especially as the work has already been done?
Was just about to recommend the same. I don't think people from non-Cricketing nations realise the danger in the game- partly because they've never felt and held a cricket ball and assume it's a long, slow paced sport.
He was a great talent.
I thought for sure he'd have his life saved. Rest in Peace, Mr. Faizutdinov.
When i saw the news, i was touched, because when this things happens it almost always this result...
Such a professional way of handling this sensitive manner of a video.
Hats off to you for covering it perfectly and my sincerest of condolences to the poor young man's family 🙏🏻
Hockey is a crazy sport. The players wear blades on their feet. The puck is small and dense enough to kill a person with the right contact. A baseball could do that too... but baseball players don't have the blades on their feet. Those guys just take on more risk than most when they take the ice. This is a tragic accident but a rare one. Nothing really needs to be done. It will happen once every few hundred years. Terrible luck.
First off, Rest in Peace Brother Timur. Secondly, I just subbed because we have finally found a guy who gave a breakdown on injuries to prevent or to be aware of. Thank you for your calm and peaceful tone, it makes me have more faith in the art of Medicine.
RIP Timur
also Dr. Sutterer, my wife is a med student and wants to go into PM&R, any advice?
Do lots of drugs and don’t study
@@guysmalley especially Adderall , and she’ll be good
@@guysmalley?
@@guysmalley made my day lol
@@guysmalley and do forgot to get piss drunk every day and skip class
This is why I wear ear guards and a full cage on my hockey helmet. The first ever game I played without a cage I took a stick to the face and put that shit right back on. I'm not getting paid to play, I'm not risking my health just so I can look cool.
facts but it's diff at the NHL level, if guys shooting the puck at 100mph have their vision effected by a cage it's only going to INCREASE how often they hit someone with their shots.
@@highverson6402 maybe for those who've never worn full cages, but you get used to the slight impairment in vision. Plus basically everyone, at least in NA, wears them until at least midget level anyway. Making them mandatory across the league would also level the playing field, if they grandfathered it like helmets and visors before it won't stick.
@@highverson6402 goaltenders were a cage and they clearly see the puck. I play with a cage and without my glasses and can easily shoot accurately. Stop with your bullshit.
@@mathib04 The goaltenders main job isn't to stick handle the puck, why the hell you think they have different gear STUPID
@@th3oryO They could get use to playing blind folded as well, that's not a good point to make at all, also the numbers show higher concussion numbers in NA leagues Especially at the college level compared to leagues that do not require a cage, Just because it's what they do doesn't mean it's the best.
As a former player I’ve seen ALOT, and when these outcomes happen it really does shock me. I’ve seen some plays visually sooooo far worse than what happened here and absolutely nothing came of it. Things where you’d swear this player is done for the season or his career and next thing you know, they’re playing the next game. So these are always a shock to former players like myself. Having said that, great content, and you hit the nail on the head with this video Brian. Keep it up
I love this channel, always informative and educational, not a hockey fan but sorry to hear about this young man losing his life RIP
love how genuine he is never disrespecting players about their injuries and what not just good old content
Thank you, trying to be as professional as I can in such a situation.
Excellent video as always. Thoughts and prayers to Timur's family, friends and teammates. Hockey is an amazing sport and I love it dearly, such a shame that something like this happened :(
Its awful, as a hockey fan I was so heart broken to hear about ie t, thank you for making this video
Hockey helmets actually come with ear guards that are mandatory in some leagues, especially for younger players. Most older players remove them. A small number of NHL players - Sidney Crosby, Patrick Kane, and Evgeni Malkin, for instance - have kept theirs at the pro level. I'm not sure how much protection they offer for the temporal bone, but they do offer protection for the ear and that area.
@@bobbya8628 On the other hand visors/cages limits your situation awareness as they are a bit of distraction and that is I would say the main reason players ditching them. R.I.P. Timur Condolences to all affected by this unfortunate and sad tragedy.
@@tomaspisecky4835 The ear guards affect literally nothing. They don't obstruct vision or distract or anything.
Very informative. Thank you. Made me grab my hockey helmet and really pay attention to what‘s exposed. I‘ve taken pucks/sticks to the face, but luckily I wear a cage. The idea of getting hit in the neck area is awful. A terrible tragedy on such an innocent play
I just noticed he changes the shirts on the skeleton based on the video, nice touch
I think one thing that is worth mentioning is that the hospital he was in at Yaroslavl was unequipped to perform the neurosurgery needed to save his life and likely wouldn't have survived the transfer to Moscow to have it performed. He definitely would've survived had he been in Moscow at the time of injury.
The NHL will never adapt a cage as the players don't want it as it obstructs their vision and the NHL doesn't want it as it protects the faces of their stars. Both parties don't want it, however, can see something like ear guards becoming a discussion in the future.
Incredibly tragic situation. Always sad to see a life lost but especially when a kids life gets cut short. Truly hope the player who shot the puck will also recover mentally and psychologically from this incident. Rip 🙏🏽
Also, this video was very well done doc. As a former athlete who suffered MANY levels of ankle sprains and a few concussions I definitely appreciate your knowledge.
Very very sad story. Thank you Dr. for an in-depth video on a bad situation.
Appreciate your videos and your character. You’re a good dude.
A similar accident happened to Phillip Hugh, who passed away after getting hit with a ball against his neck while playing cricket.
After that incident, helmet regulations were changed in order to provide more protection to the players.
It's sad that something bad must first happen to the players until regulations are changed on the protective equipment.
A point about not hiding the head injury...
I completely agree, as I experienced this first hand. I used to wrestle but one day during middle school wrestling practice this one kid smacked my face into the mat and I was knocked out for just a few seconds.. didn’t tell the coaches nor my parents... this was like 2 months before wrestling season was over too so I was wrestling with a concussion, then when wrestling season ended my mom wanted me to just get looked at before track season just to make sure my body was all good. Doc confirmed I had a concussion and it was so bad I had to be out of school for the last 2-3 months of school.
When high school came I was gonna do wrestling and football but I was told I could never do it again due to that.
Point of the story is never hide your head injuries!
may he rip.. thanks for the info doc
Thank you for doing this, I know it couldn’t have been easy to record
left me breathless, you can see the fear he got after the hit, rushing to get the helmet out. absolutely awful.
I dont watch hockey but when I heard this from Instagram, I was like wtf how is this possibly? It seems like he would just be in temporary pain or the most, a broken broke. Him being only 19 doing what he loves just makes this even more sadder. I also feel really bad for the shooter, even though it was an accident, people who are innocently involved hold onto the trauma and "what ifs" and get a lot of hate for being the "killer"
This is so sad! #WayTooYoung #RIPTimurFaizutdinov He was 19 Years Old!
First of all, I feel for the family of this young man who is gone too soon. It's cold comfort to say "he died doing what he loved" in playing hockey. As a cyclist, I have lost friends from accidents, and I have had terrible accidents on the road. Safety does matter, but you will never mitigate all the risks. To try and take all the risks out of the sport, any sport, will destroy the game or sport. May it be cycling or soccer or hockey or football. There is risk, there is a chance you hurt yourself every time you compete, and hurt yourself that you never compete again.
This channel is so informative I love it!
Such a tragic outcome. As casual observers, we may under-appreciate the risks of such a small but deadly object. A Philadelphia Little Flyers player and great prospect named Brian Page, suffered a broken neck during a tournament last November in Trenton NJ. Thankfully, he is alive and in good spirits. I would love to see your take on his injury and potential recovery of ambulation.
Rip Timur
Thank you for the video and clarification.
I always wondered why hockey helmets don’t cover the whole face and chin. I play lacrosse and it’s basically like hockey on a field, but the helmets cover our whole face similar to a football helmet just shaped differently. Especially when there’s such a fast moving object being passed and shot I feel that there should be helmets that cover the whole head
According to a Wikipedia list, this young fellow is the 25th on-ice/immediate post-game fatality in competitive hockey and he was the fourth to die after being hit by the puck. Hockey is such a dangerous sport.
Reminds me of dale Earnhardt’s crash, Doesn’t look like anything special, but ended their lives. Really really sad. What a freak thing to happen.
This is such a great channel. Thanks for the amazing content.
Big Nascar fan here and there have been a lot of deaths due to what they say is a basilar skull fracture i would love to see a video about what actually happens and what actually causes the driver to pass for reference I'm talking about the death of Dale Earnhardt Sr in 01
Love that you’re doing more hockey videos! By chance could you review Ondrej Pavelec or Michal Neuvirth’s collapse sometime? Both were very similar and I’ve always wondered what they were caused by.
Thanks!
Thanks for the video and your explanation. Thanks for showing the images of the helmet. I've watched a bit of hockey, and I still somehow had the impression that the helmets had a piece that came down over the ears a little bit more. I wonder whether an ear cage would be beneficial without hampering the players. Even if the cage were just soft elastomer that couldn't stop the puck, any absorption of the puck's energy could reduce the damage.
Philip Hughes I think had a similar injury he was a cricketer. It reminds me very much of his injury . Both seemed shaken then collapsed and never got up.
Oh Wow, I thought 2001-2021 was his career, not his life RIP
Extremely sad. prayers for his family.
We had ear hole covers for a year in the 90's but they interfered with hearing and so called "2 ships in the night" collisions happened every game. Concussions went through the roof.
thanks for the video. have had so many concussions and never got them checked from hockey and now have to live with epilepsy
how can people dislike this
Praying for the family, hopefully thiz will lead to equipment improvementz!!!
This reminds of Phillip Hughes, a young cricket batsman on the Australian national team. He was hit in the neck & died from a carotid dissection (I think) a few years ago. His death led to changes being made to cricket helmets, etc. It was a freak accident really. The ball was thrown as a bouncer & just came up off the ground @ such angle that it slipped under the face/neck shield. Very, very sad
Such a tragedy a young healthy man struck down at such a young age. Wishing his family, friends, teammates, and fans the strength to face your loss and eventually as time goes on hoping you find acceptance. I hope the league, science, and sports doctors study how this happens and find a way to try and prevent it from happening again. Praying for you all🙏
Please doc, explain the tragedy of choirul huda. The legendary goalkeeper played with persela lamongan in indonesian league who passed away 3 years ago because of knock with his teammate.
Thanks
Such a freak chance that's so sad. It's crazy how quickly he went downhill. From spinning on the ice to being out cold in minutes. Such a common play that happens all the time and it wasn't even a slapper or particularly hard shot. Hope the kid who shot the puck is getting some counseling. I cant imagine that it would be easy to cope, let alone go back out onto the ice after that. Tragic all around.
as a french we are not really fan of hockey so i don't know anything about it, but i never thought hockey could be as brutal as someone would die from playing ! that's crazy !
Just saw the video on TikTok and was saddened and curious about what actually happened. Seems like you really know your stuff. Of course RIP to Timur. Also feel bad for the player who hit the puck. Obviously a freak accident and I’m sure he’s having a rough time. Not a huge hockey fan, I don’t follow the sport at all but it just seems so dangerous. Saddened by the entire situation.
This tragedy highlights my ultimate respect to yesterday's players, such as Jacques Plant...
to think he was younger than me is mind boggling. way way way way too young. RIP and hope he has the best time in hockey heaven
RIP young man
Rest In peace Timur Faizutdinov hopefully is family is staying safe and tough and Jesus loves you all stay safe🙏👑✌️💜💯
This is sad and prayers for the family and as a rangers fan something similar happens to zucc and almost ended his career puck shots is super dangerous
Phillip Hughes, a professional Australian cricket player died from the ball hitting his ear/neck area
Watching this without volume in school and idk what’s going on but rip
Professional
I feel like this could happen in almost every sport, I’m willing to bargain we’ve all been hit in the face or head by a ball, or been tackled and banged our heads. It’s part of life in a way but as a society we need to build that understanding and those protective attitudes towards our brains and other peoples brains, instead of reinforcing the negative tropes that then create further traumas down the line. Absolutely love the content I feel like a part time neurologist because of Bri
Brian. You might be interested in doing a video on an Australian Cricket player names Philip Hughes. He sadly passed away from what was believed to be a similar injury. The manufacturers of Cricket helmets in Australia changed after his death. Might be interested to cover as a follow on from this video.
Thanks for the info.
You do your best to be prepared for the worst case scenario until something happens that's worse than the worst you could have imagined.
You should look at the death of Phil Hughes, struck in the neck by a cricket ball leading to vertebral artery dissection, a massive stroke and death 2 days later
In minor hockey we wear helmets with ear guards and full face cages, but in higher levels ear guards are removed and visors replace the cage
Its not just the players that need to be careful. There was a massage therapist i got to work with that told me he was nailed square in the forehead from a hockey puck during practice. It was a complete accident and i'm so surprised that he only walked away with a lump, however it could have been a lot worse.
So young, young man had his whole life ahead of him...
Rest in peace young blood...
Hey man, super insightful information on the accident, and I think you presented your thoughts in a way that is respectful of such a recent tragedy. I just wanted to point out that your thumbnail does give off a a bit of a bad look though. With the pic of your body taking up the same amount of space as the pic of Timur, and the cartoon-y style text, comes a major feeling of inauthenticity and egotism as this death is so recent, and gives a vibe that you are just looking for views and likes in a super dark time. Again, everything else you did was very respectful in my opinion, but you might want to give the thumbnail a look if you worry about your image.
Thanks for the feedback. This was a tough thumbnail to make..I see what you mean with the font and proportions, tried to change it up a bit to be a bit more neutral and have his part stand out (font color). I include myself in my thumbnails to make them stand out and show that it's a person talking, not just clips or photos, but you're right, this one was a challenge, so thank you for the feedback. WHile it still might not be perfect, I hope it gives a better vibe now with the update. Glad you were able to see through it and still watch to hear my thoughts and thanks for the comment.
I saw this video and the year 2001-2021 and thought, man he's been playing for a while. Then I realised... He was only 20😢
Gone but never forgotten
This same thing happened in the game of cricket with an Australian player Phillip Hughes. He got hit by the cricket ball at the exact same place: back of neck, behind his ear. He died 2 days later. He is the one and only player who got hit at that place in the history of cricket. And after this incident, helmet designs are changed now. I hope same happens for hockey as well. Rest in Peace champs..🙏🏼
Such sad news for such a young player.
WOW 😳 Dr. Sutterer
Earlier today, I'd just watched your vid of the soccer player who got knee'd by a teammate
It's amazing how you basically covered that that type of blow could cause serious damage and even death
Here,
It actually did....
And I just watched you explain this a couple of hrs ago where no serious injury had occurred
But
You noted sports needs to remove all these scenarios before s death occurred
Sad it's happened only moments after my viewing that footage of the soccer incident
SMH
The American Sports Federation or whoever oversees safety for all sports needs to expeditiously rectify all unaddressed possible safety risks in sports
🙏My condolences to the deceased family 😇
Thank you for not showing the part of the video where he goes completely limp (and you realize he's probably dead) and his friends are scrambling to get him on the backboard... that was traumatizing.
I thought this was an incredible video. Amazing job and prayers for his family.