Doctor Reacts to Middle Ground: Pro-Vaccine vs Anti-Vaccine
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2019
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Many of you have messaged me on IG, Twitter, and FB asking me to respond to this new video between Pro-Vaccine and Anti-Vaccine arguments. This is a hotly debated topic so lets please be respectful in the comments!
Jubilee Media has an excellent series called Middle Ground where they have folks with opposing beliefs on controversial topics sit beside one another to discuss their views. I have long been a fan of this type of moderated content and applaud Jubilee for setting this up.
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"Safe-ish"
Ok, lady, so are airbags in a car. But if I'm about to slam 70 mph into a wall, I rather trust my life in something that's safe-ish than find to out if my body can live without a head.
Seat belts can cause injury but they do more good than harm!
Good fucking point
Amazing way to put it. Puts her reasonings to shame
B-but you see! My daghter suffrs from an aibag allargy. That's why airbogs should be ellegal! It is a unethical thingy and it interfers with the chemical molecular imbalance of the potassium levels within the ribosome as well as produces frequent anaphylactic reactions within a 5km radius.
I'd like to say that this is sarcasm and I actually DO BELIEVE IN AIR BAGS! Also:
1) I do not have a daughter
2) I purposefully put spelling errors in to imitate the breed of anti-vaxxers
3) This is meant to imitate the logic that anti-vaxxers apply to vaccines
4) Have a good day/night!
Chicken Schnitzel Wait are you sure you know what we are talking about? The airbags that inflate if you get in a crash so that you don’t bang your head. What your daughter allergic to?
It's difficult to win an argument against a smart person but it's even harder to win an argument against a stupid person.
That is 100% true.
Tempest once a stupid person has made up their mind, they ain't going back
Fool. The point is not to "win." The point is to get to the truth what you and the other person is aware of, OPENMINDEDLY.
replace stupid with stubnorn or closed ear
Tempest that’s not even true. You’re equating stupidity with stubbornness. Smart people can be very stubborn just like how stupid people can be humble or “opened” to new ideas
"i did my own research"
You mean, you googled it and found 68 results that contradicted your opinion and found ONE that validated it.
only 69 results were found
I make my decisions based on multiple experiences. My brother is dying. They told him his original symptoms were normal, and then it only got worse. I've gotten sick too. So have others I've known. I'm not trying to take vaccines off the market or recommend others don't take them. But I shouldn't have to
@@MajorMango28No, maybe you shouldn’t, and that’s why the rest of us has to take them. To make sure that people like you who are unable to take them get protected
"Do vaccines cause autism?"
"Well, I have ten thousand results that say they don't, and one result that says they do..."
* grabs the one * "I knew it."
"Just because I found it DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TRUE!"
-If Google Was a Person
@Totsrocky very reasonable. I encourage anybody to do for their health what they have to and I trust doctors give you the info you need... I just don't think it should be legal to require people to take vaccines and I can't think of a situation where it should be required for anyone to do anything medically to enter any workforce apart from be healthy
Just imagine being the pro-vaccine doctor who probably has 15+ years of studying, looking at countless studies, and practicing medicine only for a wine mom with zero understanding of medicine to tell you "you're wrong."
Just imagine being a pro vaccine doctor with 15 years of studying and having COLLEAGUES who are also DOCTORS with 15 YEARS OF STUDYING who are anti-vax. I imagine it's a huge reality check of making you realise not every Doctor know what he's doing.
I;m a wine mom, and I wouldn't say "you're wrong." i just wouldn't take my kids to that doctor in the first place. all i want is for the doctor to agree with me and my needs for my children. that's all i ask. it's not asking too much.
@@dhsarah570 you don't want a doctor. You seem to want a yes-man instead.
Hey look, it's a random alphanumeric string username posting a blatant and easily dismissed logical fallacy. Sure is legitimate discussion in the comments section today.
exactly@@VDA19
“I don’t want my kids to have arthritis”
**Kid gets polio**
“Well at least he doesn’t have arthritis”
SebastianTheGreat AHAHAHHAHAHA
Guess what Polio comes from contaminated water not contact with infected people. My uncle had Polio with 5 other unvaccinated children he guy it from swimming.
@@tomarasmith4459 Yeah, but if you had a Polio vaccine, the chances of getting would be WAY lower.
@@cracqheadish908 I dont swim in lakes and ponds so my chances of getting it is low anyway. My uncle had Polio he was the only of 6 kids to contract it. I do know that the CDC lies about the risk of vaccines.
“vaccines cause autism 😡”
*gets measles and dies*
“at least he doesn’t have autism”
"In the end, parents know their children best."
"I actually very much disagree with that statement. The closer you are in relation to the patient, the more likely that your bias is gonna be at play, and you're not be able to make an objective decision."
Love the way he politely disagrees and gives a logical explanation.
That's I respect Dr. Mike. In that situation I would've been "You know as much about your child as the Russians knew about Chernobyl in 1986, how'd that turn out"
Sam Shim My doctor knows me better than my parents
🥺so admirable
I agree with him, but not for the reason he gave
@@donnyshields4450 just curious, but what's your reason? 😶😊
If your child has an autoimmune disorder you should be PRO vaccine, even if it means not vaccinating that child. You need the healthy children around your child to be vaccinated so they don't spread these preventable illnesses to yours
That's not the issue. The controversy isnt about weather a person should or shouldn't get vac instead, it's about weather or not it should be mandated and if people who refuse should lose their job or be jailed or fined into poverty.
calling an mrna gene delivery system a vaccine is the biggest misinformation.
everyone would be anti mrna gene delivery systemer
My best friend’s wife has Fibromyalgia and is anti - vaccine.
@@williampennjr.4448a mandate that is the direct result of the belief that you should be vaccinated and the fact that an overwhelming number of people didn’t want to get a vaccine for a potentially deadly virus that spread via person to person contact. Could you imagine if the number of people who didn’t want the covid vaccine would have been against the polio vaccine? We would have had millions of other people dead or in iron lungs and the virus would still exist and still be infecting people, but thanks to the vaccine and the mandates put in place and followed during its outbreak has literally eliminated the virus in the US. Guess where it isn’t eliminated? In certain 3rd world countries that didn’t have a vaccine and is only being treated and prevented by vaccines provided to them by the CDC as it’s goal is to eliminate the virus globally. Much like the Covid outbreak, polio also caused the government to close schools, public places, and also encouraged social distancing, along with the vaccine having potential side effects that included possible paralysis. Vaccination is nothing new, just as viral infections are nothing new, and the science behind their creation and use is pretty rock solid. Now if people who were unvaccinated couldn’t spread and infect others with the virus then vaccination probably wouldn’t be mandated, but it can and is spread by people so you put others at risk, not just yourself, when you remain unvaccinated during an outbreak of a potentially deadly virus…not sure what’s so difficult about that to understand.
Unless you study the information connecting the ingredients in vaccines and autoimmune issues.
My grandmother was a polio survivor. she spent time in an iron lung and lost the use of her legs for the rest of her life. My grandfather lost hearing in one of his ears after a childhood bout of the flu. I had RSV at 2 months old, and have struggled with serve asthma my whole life. refusing to vaccinate your child against illnesses with common harmful side effects because of a one in a million side effect (or worse, a 'side effect' that has been THROUGHLY DISPROVEN) makes me enraged
If you're alluding to the massively debunked connection between autism and vaccination... I hear you! I was diagnosed ADHD in my 30s. My family suspected I was autistic for years before then. (ASD and ADHD can have overlapping symptoms.) Some of my more fringe relatives implied that my issues (that turned out to be ADHD) were caused by my childhood vaccinations. It's a good thing I wasn't present for that conversation cause I'd have had a tough time keeping my cool and debunking them vociferously. ADHD is genetic and I likely got it from my undiagnosed mother.
It also is a horrible thing to say to autistic folks, too. The implication is that they would rather have a maimed or dead child from a preventable disease rather than risk having an autistic child!
My grandmother was also a polio survivor. She was 100% Pro vaccine.
@@jessicaharris1608I'm autistic here and yeah, even if it were true, (figurative "you" incoming), you'd be choosing bringing polio to everyone like it's the 1900s again over being awesome and having a whole community of folks online who get it?
Trained doctor: "The side effects are one in a million"
Internet mom: "no"
Internet mom: I disagree
I mean they did clarify that was for anaphylactic shock and that other side effects are more common. Ofc the reasor that is a seizure isnt as impactful as the disease so the main thing being to anaphylactic shock to not getting the vaccine
that made me so FUCKING MAD
Internet mom: I like my opinion better than your facts
"That's not a real number"
There’s a saying that goes something like this “Winning an argument against a smart person is hard. Winning an argument against an ignorant person is impossible.”
ok boomer
I agree with you. At least a smart person is rational.
bruh never heard anything truer in my life. smart, rational people will listen to your points, combat them appropriately, and are always open to be educated. having an argument with a person who is ignorant is like trying to talk to a tree stump - you have to repeat yourself over and over again and they'll never listen to your points. it's incredibly frustrating.
@@ZmZm525 ok boomer.....the new catch cry of the terminally ignorant with no real argument to add to the debate. Let me guess, you think the earth is flat, dont you?
@@heatherrowles2580 It's a misplaced reply. It doesn't apply to this situation but it is a valid response.
As a doctor myself, I have had an extreme reaction to a vaccine (anaphylaxis). But I have also have seen children with diseases that could have been prevented with a vaccine. Because of that, I make sure I do my due diligence, but my children are 100% vaccinated. Also because I have seen children with preventable diseases I will always make sure my patients have all information at their disposal before they make their choice.
All that said, I love Dr. Mike's take on this, I love how he listens and add input as needed and never attacks the person, just provides his own insight on the issue they brought up.
So, what information did you provide your patients for the mRNA therapy? Informed consent was not possible. Hmmm.
@@jennifermarlow. provide them with what was available so that they still could make an informed decision. They had the right to refuse, I wasn’t forcing it on anyone
In my opinion, I agree with Dr. Mike that no one should ever become anti-vaccine because of a negative experience themselves (as long as the vaccine has gone through the proper trials and is safe to use in general). Imagine if the kids with Polio had originally chosen not to take the vaccine; nowadays the illness is essentially gone because of the use of vaccines.
and it's coming back, along with smallpox, because moronic uneducated people who get their information from Facebook think they know better than science and medicine and DECADES of research.
I agree to a point, but if there are excessive "negative experiences" a research should be done on why are they happening and most importantly how to prevent them.
If we take one sided approach we can be sure medicine is deteriorating
@@BruhImAGirl they are re-evaluated. Like with the J&J Covid vaccine. They found out it had some small chance to cause something and it was looked at. The problem is that anti vaccine people will take that one negative thing and just run with it and won’t be open to the rest of that process.
Polio is actually resurfacing in the US, I wonder why.
That is why none of my kids got the covid vaccine.
It's like being anti-surgery because there's a death rate for every operation.
Good point I am now anti-surgery
So you die later guaranteed while in pain or you take the risk of living longer without the pain/dying on the table while already knocked out..........I’ll take my chances of dying on the table. Unless circumstances state otherwise.
Azure Blaze To each there own!
That's such a great point.😄😂
0x39 no. It's like doing a cost/benefit analysis before EACH INDIVIDUAL surgery.
Too bad we don't do that.
Oh wait...
Anti-vax mom: We know our kids best
Every teen ever: Loud typing of LMAO
My druggie deadbeat tried to stop me getting vacinated 😂 he forgot he had 0 custody
LMAO
@@arthurmorgan9449 bro that made me die from laughter honestly
Yep. 99% of parents don’t see their kids realistically at all.
LMAO
I once had a nightmare where Antivaxxers took over the UN and banned vaccines and Autism. Then there was a knock at the door. I woke up before I could open the door.
How can you ban autism? 🤔
@@SBerTtube You "concentrate" people in "fun camps"
@@SBerTtube look at history it’s happened well not just autism any mental and physical issues
@@aryabiss9445you can just withdraw autism as a mental disorder, just like they removed slaves wanting to run away from their owners as a mental disorder (of course the two aren't comparable whatsoever, just an example of mental disorders being reclassified).
As an executive in a pharma R&D corporation, I will say the adverse effects of vaccines are not appropriately highlighted and many are removed from the statistics and trial data as outliers when the % are higher than wanted. The study or trial specifications are just changed to reduce the unwanted data and include the wanted data.
Once the trial is over only the “final” report is issued to the peer review.
They have also cancelled trials in the middle of the process when the data is not positive. That trial is never presented.
Well they dont really teach selective publication and other publication manipulations in the education system hence these things do not really exist in the subjective world of the majority of the herd.
No pharma executive claims they are lying. You obviously don't work in pharma
Most people are so unaware of this, and actually trust. It's nuts. Consider that the FDA has now said Ivermectin is okay. But trials were halted midway, so that the mRNA therapy was approved. Because there could be no treatments available, lest the shots would not be approved. Yeah, some of us are onto it.
That seems like a problem with how we do and present vaccine trials, not a problem with vaccines.
The public should have clear and accurate information on vaccines, but that doesn't equate to the core messaging of the anti-vax community. I wish we had that conversation before jumping to vaccines are conspiracy tools of control and destruction.
"You're downplaying the risks of vaccines."
As opposed to downplaying the risks of measles, polio, smallpox, etc?
Exactly. There was a french doctor that showed what those diseases actually do... This is beyond frightening...
@@nhiko999 There was also the whole entire existence of humanity up until the point of the vaccine invention in 1796 to use as an example. I mean so many people died from diseases we can now cure and virtually eradicate. Why would that ever be a bad thing?
@@EOR2742 my favorite argument when discussing with an anti-vaxxer is when they say there were people around before vaccines. Whether that be because they buy in to the doctor conspiricy or to state if humanity was fine without them before then there child doesn't need it now. yes there were people around, but many of them also died.
Very very accurate. Measles can complicate as encephalitis, which has poor prognosis. Smallpox was extremely deadly; there was a reason it was the disease we first developed a successful vaccine against. Anti-vaxers who still claim autism is linked to vaccinations (despite it being disproven several times), how do they prefer polio or permanent damage/death over autism for their kid? There’s a very small group of people who cannot safely receive vaccinations, and rely on herd immunity. In my country, we are discussing not letting anti-vaxers (by choice) put their children in public kindergarten. It’s a tricky discussion with strong opinions on both sides. On a population scale, vaccines save more lives than they take by a ridiculous factor.
No one gets smallpox anymore. My risk for having no immunity to smallpox is zero. You know why? Because vaccines work so goddamn well we eradicated the virus. Smallpox and rinderpest are both completely eradicated.
"my child had an adverse reaction to a vaccine, so they can't be vaccinated"
So... Shouldn't you be advocating for others to vaccinate to stimulate herd immunity to protect your child?
Caseh honestly though I feel you. Like why in the world would you want your child at more risk.
Honestly that lady seemed like she felt attacked by people attacking anti-vaxxers... Her reasoning is incredibly stupid. She just feels like people judge her child. We don't. We want the other children to get vaccinated to help HER. Wish she doesn't get polio because of other idiotic anti-vaxxers.
thought the same.
I also thought that she seemed very attacked or judged. And she maybe also has good reasons for it. I heard a few stories of parents whose children had adverse effects after vaccines and the doctors did not believe them, and I think that must be a horrifying situation. I still believe that you should definitely vaccinate and that the benefits are very high.
But I think it is horrifying if doctors downplay issues or if they do not try to search for the cause of problems because they think the patients exaggerate stuff. The one women told her history of visiting many doctors because of her arthrities and no one looked into it enough to help her.
Well that sounds way too logical
I hear the safety of vaccines all of the time, but when I hear someone say that they cannot take it, but everyone else should. Spells Bull * to safety. Heard immunity is this bull * mentality of others that believe the world is a near-perfect place. When instead, We have plethoras of people that run across the border everyday into the United States, Take international flights and land in the United States with ILLNESSES. COVID-19. bleh. There is a time and a reason for a Vaccine, there also ISNT. Because the law of nature works against us. The illnesses that are going to let us sit and rot in a bed for the rest of our life such as polio. is a GOOD reason to vaccinate. Something absurd such as the FLU, or Hepatitis is a dumb reason. Because we are breading SUPER BUGS.
Becoming a parent doesn’t grant you a medical degree or make you a therapist. You’re well-intentioned but to say that you know what will or won’t hurt your child from a medical standpoint better than someone who has spent their life studying medicine…no, you don’t. Respectfully, you don’t.
Dr. Robert Malone, the creator of the mRNA vaccine, also had serious concerns about its use as a Covid vaccine. Respectfully - I tell you that maybe you should have been listening to what he had to say - along with the long list of experts who weren't "anti-vaxx" but who had serious concerns about this particular one: you should also ask yourself why on earth were they never allowed air time to voice those concerns?
@@jackspring7709respectfully, I’ll trust the other thousands of doctors who say otherwise :) also, he didn’t “invent” the mRNA vaccine, he was a minor contributor among hundreds of other scientists, though I don’t blame you for this one, because research literacy is a very niche skill.
@jackspring7709 being skeptical about a single vaccine should not make someone an anti vaxxer though
This is the most important video of yours that I have seen, considering that it could actually save lives. Thank you Dr. Mike!
What I don't understand is if your child cannot be vaccinated due to adverse affects, why would you then advocate for anti vaccination? Your child is now a part of the group that relies on herd immunity...advocating for anti-vax just puts your own child at even more of a risk...🤦🏾♀️
Their making everything the same so they are not left out.
It's so hard to get rid of your kid without people judging you these days
Becky Cepeda thinking that through the entire video
Because they care less about their child than they do about being considered an idiot.
I commented this once and an anti vaxxer told me herd immunity isn’t a thing and that vaccines don’t in fact work...they’re so deluded
"I ended up with a kid with an auto-immune disorder."
She's making it sound like the kid arrived from the factory broken, smh.
ahahjahhahaha thats a good one.
Yeah, she says ended up as if she didn’t even want the kid
The mother is clearly the shitty factory
The mom had arthritis that probably from autoimmune disease too, she doesn't realized she passed that down to her child did she? Lmao
@@DillaVesperia ah ah ah, Disorder. That distinction is very important. that child is not diseased, they have a disorder. that can be very disheartening for people with the disorder. Unless they actually do have one of the diseases, then they're probably gonna die in todays world...
I actually really enjoyed this. I am pro-vaccine but I also believe that people should have choices and understand that this is a super complex issue. I had a bad reaction (allergic but not anaphylactic) to a certain vaccine as a young adult. It made me afraid to vaccinate my kids since we did not know what ingredient my reaction came from. Thankfully my family doctor was good at discussing risk versus benefit for each individual vaccine and each child. We both agreed to space things out and pay close attention to possible allergic reactions for each shot. We eventually got the kids fully vaccinated (minus the chicken pox shot which is what I reacted to).
If every doctor was like your doctor much of anti-vax group wouldn't be anti-vax. Like that is literally what I want to do with my future kids, space things out and avoid the flu shots since I had a reaction to that.
Wonderful video, Dr. Mike. I appreciate your objectivity.
If I'm allergic to peanut doesn't mean that peanut will kill everyone I won't become an antipeanut activist
Its hilarious how we have to oversimplify innovative, life changing vaccines into PEANUTS to get antivaxxers to understand
@@prudence8808 i bet they cant understand this peanut analogy either
Takuya V they won’t 😹
@@vreep7497 They can hear you but they won't, they look for trouble while others don't
@@prudence8808 I'm anti mandatory vaccines, but these comments are killing me! Comedy Gold!
“This bridge is only 99% safe so we should just swim in the shark infested water”
Wow thats a really good one!
I like this.
Yah. So many people fall asleep and never wake up so we should never sleep. When she said “Safe-ish” It drove me up the wall. Everything human’s do is “safe-ish” sleeping, eat, drinking, breathing, and even your heart beating. Glad to see other people agree with me that her way or thinking is flawed.
10/10 analogy
Well coud we exchange scharks with crokodiles?
Hi Dr Mike.
I had anaphylaxis as a result of my first covid jab (astro zeneca). As a Doctor was there, I was treated, so it was really unpleasant but dealt with.
Here's my issue..... From some people I received a lot of abuse, when I explained that I didn't want to go for any more covid jabs due to the anaphylaxis, inuding someone who told me that I should have it because covid is worse than anaphylaxis! They had never had an allergic reaction of any kind....
I discussed the jab again with a doctor, once the zeneca jab had been withdrawn, and we talked about the risks, especially as I have chonic q fever and a lot of other conditions, some of which are autoimmune disorders. I was asked to have the jab in the hospital, had an allergic reaction again, but it was dealt with. Bullying is wrong, open communication is key.
Much love from the uk.
Exactly. The authoritarians who pushed the Covid vaccine have never apologized or admitted wrong doing. They destroyed the medical communities credibility and now think it’s weird people don’t trust them
That doctors story about his daughter having arthritis and epilepsy really hit home for me cause I had the exact same experience when I was a bit younger. But the problem was when we were going to ask my doctor what was going on she left although she had caused me a large amount of suffering. Doctor Mike, what would you do if a doctor has given you the wrong treatment and you want to do something about it?
Switch doctors. That's the only thing to do. If you are seeing a doctor and they are clearly not helping you, you just gotta go see a new doctor. Bring your medical records.
I agree, switch doctors. And if your doctor has an issue with you getting a second or third opinion....dump that doctor.
I feel like the 2 anti vaccine moms were not listening, they were just waiting to talk.
I feel like (not to assume) that’s the problem of why they are so “ignorant” it’s because they don’t listen as much as they should
Zahir Datoo that has nothing to do with being American 😐
Zahir Datoo nope
Zahir Datoo everything you just said was wrong
Zahir Datoo anyone can be what you described, which is what you are
Pro vax: I saw a child have 4 limbs amputated.
Anti vax: BUT I HAD ARTHRITIS :(
YOU WOULD’INT HAVE ARTHRITIS IF YOUR ARMS WERE CHOPPED OFF fingers? Hand?
Man those doctors had infinite patients. If it were me, I would have knocked her out.
She says that arthritis doesn't occur at that age
One of my good friends mom has arthritis at twenty
In fact it can occur to anyone
slapp bass yea literally had a kid in my year 3 class with it ???
@Naomi Roxanne Dijs Did you at all listen to doctor mike?
Man great video Mike all amazing points that you made I just wanted to reach to the screen shake your hand all the points made were very good
To speak on a personal item regarding vaccinations, when I was in the Army prior to deployment to certain locations on the planet, the Small Pox vaccine is administered to deploying service members. I was given an indefinite medical exemption based upon certain and specific criteria; it became exceptionally important that everyone else in my unit carry an immunological response if that were ever introduced to the environment. In that regard, all of their immune systems had my immune system's back when we were deployed.
I’m allergic to penicillin. When I was given penicillin I had a really bad reaction. I don’t take penicillin anymore. Other ppl should still take it when needed bc MY experience is not the experience for everyone else. Isn’t that crazy!!!🤪
Same
Evan O'Dwyer I had to the same for the DTP vaccine - I was allergic to the illness Pertussis (whooping cough) to the point of if there is an outbreak I have to be quarantined. I had the rest of my vaccines and the rest of the DTP vaccine separated from the whooping cough bit in the hospital under supervision. But I will never not vaccinate because of my reaction, my kids will be vaccinated under close supervision because there are other people that need the protection just like I do from herd immunity
Im also allerguc to penicillin
@@rachaelevans8351 yes! This is how the people who have side effects from vaccines should be. It's okay to not take vaccines for VALID reasons, but they're assuming everyone's like them and telling everyone not to take vaccines. Never mind about coronavirus, these antivaxx people can wipe us out.
This was a little too funny because I’m actually legitimately allergic to amoxicillin (they don’t give me penicillin because they’re like sister drugs, very similar) 😂
Doctor: “The side effects are like 1 in a million”
Mom: “No”
Mom “I know its not because I did my research on safari”
medical degrees dont count
JB Studio wikipedia is the true source of knowledge
ashton kutcher which articles can be edited by uneducated people
JB Studio everything was done on Wikipedia
We all know real doctors use Internet Explorer!
I work in vet med and we have clients decline the Rabies vaccine for their pets because they're anti-vax and they don't want to put "unnecessary things" into their pets.. I sure hope their pets are never exposed to Rabies and that they never have to deal with the consequences of their decision in that regard.
The only cases of rabies in Canada since the 60s, were transmitted by bats. My INDOOR cat will NOT be having a rabies vaccine. Ridiculous! Also, she does not eat garbage kibble.
Thank you. As usual - you are awesome.
Don’t confuse your google search with my medical degree
You mean that someone googling articles for 8 hours is not the same as someone who spent 8 years studying?
@@alexpirela4763 8 min* who googles for 8hrs? There aren't even enough anti vax articles
@@rebia5542 Lmaaooooo. You right
Alex Pirela 😂😂 they don’t even teach doctors or nurses in medical school about vaccine ingredients , they only teach him that it safe and effective in the schedule , my aunt is pediatric doctor so trust me I know
@@intuitivepsychictherapysab8107 I learnt about the components of different vaccines in Anatomy & Physiology, Virology, Microbiology, Molecular Genetics and Biochemistry. I dont even have my Bachelors yet.
For me personally I'd be far more convinced by a person who presents data than a person who presents personal anecdotes.
Kabir Basu both are useful, it depends on the audience that you are talking to, with these people talking about medicine with a bunch of big fancy words using personal anecdotes are useful. If you are talking about more down to earth, less big words, topics than stats are a lot more helpful.
@@riserevelation8471 Yep yep, most people are more convinced by anecdotes, especially if they can evoke emotion.
But as soon as someone starts to use emotion to try to convince me of something, I lose interest real quick, untill they start using data.
Of course this doesn't mean I've never been convinced by anecdotes in the moment, but if given the time to think about the arguments, I'd almost always be more convinced by the data.
Kabir Basu i agree with you, there is a fine amount of emotion that should be used when making an anecdotal argument, if the entire argument is ruled by emotion than people will just tune it out.
@@riserevelation8471 Yep, totally agree.
It's good you understand the data and statistics. As a scientist, I want to know those.
But I grew up with all the family stories of relatives suffering and dying of now preventable diseases. Those are facts, too. It's good to have true individual stories to tell that supplement stats for those who don't understand them. Most people don't know anybody who has had a preventable disease. It hits home when you've witnessed the fear of you or your child being infected with something horrible.
LOVE LOVE LOVE this !!!!
I am pro vaccine and I stopped getting the flu when I stopped taking the vaccine.
"Don't confuse your google search to my medical degree" -The to many memes I have i seen
Your sentence is unintelligible and I bet you gave yourself a thumb's up. Fuck the filth that are vaccines and fuck shills.
Summer Joy also, fuck children growing old! Wait... that’s not right.
Fuck anti-vaxxers and their misinformed, uneducated view point that is actively killing children
@@summerjoy6849 his sentence is perfectly legible , you've just shown yourself to be dumb right there
@@summerjoy6849 His sentence is legible and vaccines are good
@@rainbowroxgirl6091 Anti-Vaxxers are secretly people who fight overpopulation of the world
"In the end, parents know their children best."
Alright, Sharon, next time Timmy breaks his spine, you can just do the surgery to fix it yourself, okay?"
LOL
XD
Make sense
no need for surgery lmao. we have essential oils 😪
The example/context she gave was correct though
I really like that you said that you’re OK with individual parents choosing not to vaccinate, but they should not advocate for others to do the same
4.20 Exactly! My newborn was exposed to an outbreak of something in my neighborhood, because a group families were against vaccinations. Thankfully I couldn't really leave the house much anyway, but it was scary.
Anti-Vax: well what did people do before vaccines
Me: Well Karen they died- a lot of people DIED!
You dont call someone who wants safer cars "anti-car"
@@cameronmchugh4153 You do know that she is literally stating vaccines are better then
Death
@@rigobertojulian-garcia1113 it's than death. Not then death.
@@cameronmchugh4153 Sorry just a minor mistake
Cameron Mchugh omg a simple grammar mistake oh my god how could he? I have to point it out because it’s life changing that’s he is such a dumbass to make a grammar mistake it’s so worth my time!
A soccer mom telling a pediatrician that he's wrong.
*Confidence: 9000*
I think that irritates me the most. They imply my doctor promotes vaccines for the money. They don't know my doctor, he is one of the most caring people I know. He always asks how we are doing and often checks on things we have being dealing with in the past (I don't always remember and he has to remind me). It can be anything from the last thing we saw him for to something we mentioned in conversation like how our soccer season went. He isn't some nefarious snake oil salesman.
@@melanieszelong4664 Preach sister.
@@melanieszelong4664 yeah they say doctors are in it for the money meanwhile pedalling essential oils, the hypocrisy kills me
I LOVE all the comments on this thread laughing at soccer moms. We soccer moms are total dingbats, right? LOL.....and you're not being a bigoted idiot WHATSOEVER!
@@PS-qn4oz Depends on what kind of soccer mom you are. Do you tell pediatricians their decades of schooling and practice are no match for your google skills? Do you brag all over facebook about how your child only eats organic foods when nobody asked? Do you tell your children's teachers they're the bullies if they tell you your child has been acting like a brat to the other children? Do you walk into stores and restaurants wearing sunglasses, cropped pants, and a "sensible" haircut and demand to speak to the manager because they wouldn't accept your expired coupons? If so, then yes, you are a dingbat. If not, carry on, this conversation had nothing to do with you and you are getting offended for no reason.
The problem I have with these Jubilee videos is that there are no fact checking. No one is there to moderate definitions of terms, no one is clarifying statistics or claims, and while I understand it's just a discussion, it's impossible to change the minds of people whose ears are closed.
Thanks dr mike for responding to this! ❤
My sister had a reaction to a vaccine and can't get certain ones. She's still pro-vaccine.
What or when a child gets a vaccine should be customized to that specific child. With some children, some vaccines are low risk with another child the same low risk might be a high risk because of specific health conditions. I don’t think it’s ok to just make a list of vaccines and tell parents “here is the generic list, get these vaccines at specific times” when the doctor should evaluate each individual vaccine for the child on an individual basis.
Well that shows that she understands that everyone is different, which others can't seem to fathom
Thats great. As long as the people around her are vaccinated for the vaccines that she cant have, she has a lower risk of getting sick
@@danielaramburo7648 You make a fair point. But the number of children that need a changed vaccine schedule is rather small, so it's not really discussed. Most children have no issues having vaccines besides a sore muscle. For children who are immunocompromised (meaning their immune system does not work well and has difficulty fighting foriegn bodies) they are not given certain vaccines until later on. So what you want IS in place, it's just not spoken about.
The only one im against is flu because there's too ment strands of it
I am from Bangladesh, which is a third world country. Before WHO and the government stepped in, hundreds of kids used to die from preventable diseases like measles, small pox etc. My own cousin died from small pox at age of 2 because she didn't receive the vaccine on time. Hearing people in the 1st world country saying vaccines are harmful makes me really sad and angry at the same time.
Thank you for your testimony Jafreen. Unfortunately those who have never seen the effects of some of these terrible but preventable illnesses can never grasp the severity of it. They have the power of corrupted hindsight were they did not see the effects and assume all of these illnesses have been eradicated. They are the result of decades fighting preventable, through vaccinations, diseases.
I am not a fan of cliche"but those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."
I think this is what people need to hear. We used to be just as vulnerable to disease, which is the whole point of these movements to get vaccines to kids all over the world... we were trying to give them what we had, that feeling of security in knowing that diseases that used to ravage communities were now a thing of the past. If such a miracle medicine exists, it's a moral wrong to give only to a few people. So we in the US are pretty amazed, too, that anyone would dismiss that astounding opportunity out of fear of a rare adverse reaction.
I'm sorry about your cousin, and she is one of the many reasons why I will be fully vaccinating my son. I cannot relate to your story, but I know that there are too many out there just like your cousin.
Not only do I have the privilege of living in a 1st world country, so I have easy access to vaccines, but I'm Canadian... so they're free. I would be a complete and total moron if I didn't take advantage of that. Sadly, I know people who think that because there are scary sounding ingredients (such as dihydrogen monoxide) in vaccines, that they're unsafe. Even the mercury used in some of them, thimerosal, is less dangerous than the mercury in fish.
Now, yes, there's risk associated with vaccines, but there is risk to everything, and an even greater risk when not vaccinating. There are outbreaks of measles in the US and some cases in Canada because people aren't vaccinating.
Completely agree with you. I grew up in a public school where some children was absent during vaccination day in my country and one of them ended up with polio because they didn't get vaccinated (it ran out).
I'm sorry u lost someone... Believe me... U can't reason with antivax people. It's just... Idk
I have an immune disorder and even though I couldn't get vaccinations I made sure that my child did. I weighed the pros and cons and decided it was worth the risk. As my daughter reached highschool I let her decide for herself.
My friend decided not to vaccinate her child. We had heated discussions about the topic over the years and just agreed to disagree.
However am deeply saddened that my friends daughter passed away a few years later at the tender age of 15 from Meningococcal meningitis.
My beautiful friend was so distraught and said "You were right...I should've listend." I this was a time where I truly wished I was wrong 😪.
On the flip side one of my daughters fellow students a top gymnast started with seizures emediatley after she was given a vaccine at school. These seizures never went away and progressed. Now she requires 24/7 care as she has 6 - 10 seizures a day.
I know whatever decision we make as parents is in the best interests of our children.
There is no right and wrong in this. But I do believe we should be given a choice.
The problem with "choice" is some choose poorly. That results in continued presence of these organisms in the public space which in turn drives new infections and subsequent illness and death. You know lepers were once driven from their communities because of the threat they posed to others. There is no supposed "right" that allows for individuals spreading of vaccine-preventable diseases. As a final thought allergic reactions reflect a problem with the individual and not the vaccine per se which is merely a "trigger".
@@varyolla435 You do make a valid point and I agree. It's a question of ethics and morals really at the end of the day isn't it.
Ethically and moraly I believe it is wrong to force someone to put something into thier body. Your body should mean it's your choice.
On the flip side it is Ethically and moraly wrong for someone to place other peoples lives at risk. Moraly we as a society need to place our own health as well as those around us as priority.
While I swing more to the pro Vax side I do also have some understanding on why some prefer not Vax.
Education is key I believe.
@@natahliak7691and too, you can be for some vaccines, wary of others and against others. That doesn't make you antivax. I chose not to get the covid vaccine. With more data that has come out, I'm ok with my decision. For others, they've made a different decision and that's their choice. I don't vilify a person one way or the other.
Absolutely great video. 👍
mom who goes “parents know their child best” gives me bad “can i speak to your manager” vibes
Internet Comment Etiquette: Grayson I wouldn’t be surprised if her name was Karen.
People in the comments of that video were calling her Karen lmao 😂
"Can I speak"? I think it's more like... " *I DEMAND to speak to the manager here!* "
My name is Karen. And you are? 😒
Lol
Help, I have fallen victim of one of the many side effects of vaccines.
Adulthood.
Sir Homie Nice One LOL 😂
@Sir Homie your life is practically over
@@Nek0oo0o Are you ready for Persona 5 R?
😂🤣😂
PFFFF-
Great video Doc
Thank you to the man who Brought up Juvenile Ideopathic Arthritis. And the treatment. I have it and have been on methotrexate since I was 2. It helps keep it under control, and I am so happy , that his daughter can move again.❤
I had it in the 70's and 80's starting at 3yo. No methotrexate. It went away at 17 (thank goodness), but a lot of damage had already occurred, alas.
So happy for you.
"The one in a million is not a real number"
"It is. It's publis -"
"No. It's not."
Actually depends on which side effect we're talking about.
Funny and sad at the same time
@@pinkmillk how about serious side effects?
www.vaccines.gov/basics/safety/side_effects
Looks like he made a good guess too, 1 in a million.
@サイレントボイス did you read the beginning of the comment? The serious ones. Also the site lists the common side effects, if people are risking not only their lives but the lives of others because of those then they need to get their priorities in order.
@@jackmerry1972 nahhh
Alternative title: Doctor tries to explain science to mom who did internet “research”
Alternative comment: Doctors do this every day. Doctors can also be uninformed, misinformed, and/or incorrect.
earthpet yes but the thing is docters will use right sources and not google and if they find out they were misinformed they come back on their statements not the anti vax moms and their “autism caused by vaccines” statement for a start - the man who made the study apologized for it and said he was wrong
If the facts change they change their conclusions
@@elysse5983 What you are saying about doctors is how it "ideally" should work.
Most Doctors are not the objective scientists they pretend to be. The vast majority simply regurgitate what they've been taught just like those from any other profession. This doctor is clearly among the majority and needs to try harder.
"It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries... Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
" --- 1952, Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell (1872-1970) British Internationalist, among other things.
If you have a grasp of history, the dumbing-down that has taken place in recent decades is undeniable. Likewise the ill effects of vaccines are also undeniable if you've done good and objective homework on the subject.
Elysse you may be interested in the 9 hour testimony of Stanley Plotkin who is a consultant and vaccine developer. The whole thing is available here on RUclips. I can’t vouch for every link to say none have been edited. Here’s a little of what he said.
Dr. Plotkin was asked by the attorney, “If you don’t know whether DTaP or Tdap cause autism, shouldn’t you wait until you do know, until you have the science to support it to then say vaccine don’t cause autism?”
Dr. Plotkin responded:
“Do I wait? No. I have to take into account the health of the child.”
The attorney then posed the question, “And so for that reason, you are okay telling the parent that DTaP, Tdap does not cause autism even though the science isn’t there yet to support that claim.”
Dr. Plotkin answered:
“Absolutely.”
I hate the way people pretend that there are two legitimate sides to every issue. This is like Flat Earthers vs Astronomers.
It is the sign of our time. Giving mostly semi-educated people access to the internet where misinformation can abound is akin to giving a child matches to play with = bad things invariably follow. It creates a population of people who are long on assumptions and short on understanding having created for themselves an "information bubble" built upon ignorance and incredulity.
Anti-vaxxers however well meaning tend to be people who to be blunt usually can not think themselves out of a paper bag. Their attempts to delve into what are "esoteric" subjects which are well over their heads creates the cycle of poor assumptions they are constantly reacting to without ever understanding. Your analogy is therefore correct. 🤷
Your side supports pedophiles. Be quiet.
@@jakejerrison5181 you're in a brainwashing cult mate
@@varyolla435 varyolla435 is a propaganda spam bot spamming all of the comments and cannot answer a simple question.
What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities???
I love how well you are with words, and know how to talk to people, being neutral but still voicing your opinion. More people should try to work towards that then we would def live in a more peaceful world. But that’s just wishfull thinking haha ^^ I think you are an amazing docter, the way you talk about how you talk to your patients! Truly motivational! ♡
I had a bad reaction to a vaccine.
My parents didn’t want me to have vaccinations since I was 2. I am now 19 and went to get vaccines due to going into nursing. They told me if I had any worries they would work with an allergist to make sure I wouldn’t have a reaction. Simply talk to your doctor instead of believing they are secretly harming you.
Anela Wright thats what we did with our immunocompromised child. She doesn’t get the vaccines when everyone else does, but with the help of an allergist we’ve figured out the best course for her while still keeping her and others safe.
EXACTLY
Anything medical is stupid and makes the problems worse
Ben Lewis
What?
Im not
Was anyone annoyed at how arrogant the anti-vax mothers were being? They were told a genuine statistic and opinion and they just shook their heads acting like they’re geniuses.
to be fair the stats are probably exaggerated to some extent, but that doesn't mean they're any less valid and worth considering (like I think Dr. Mike said 1/3000 or so instead)
I was irritated after the beginning when the redhead said a vaccine gave her arthritis because she was "too young to develop it", made me want to grab the woman and yell at her, "Explain that to me at 17 when I hadn't had a vaccine in over 2 years, Karen!" (That was when I was officially diagnosed with arthritis.) But the willingness to ignore than specialists story, too, about the child who had to lose all of his limbs to a preventable disease, also just irritated me further. How far does your head have to be up your ass to just ignore something like that, or statistics?
Trust the doctors....they went to school for four years or long just for this kind of stuff. YOU DIDN’T YOU WENT TO GOOGLE
I mean the anti vaxxers did not specifically you Tristian DR
the doctor in the video was arguing not to give accurate statistics but to make up stories to sell vaccines. The moment they believe in this voodoo they think they are doing the right thing to cover up an injury etc and when a whole cult does that their statistics are completely unreliable and very far off.
During when the covid vaccine was being rolled out, a lot of us at Oxford working in the hospitals were recruited to have some of the first vaccines as part of the trial. I had mine beginning of feb 2021. I asked a couple of new colleagues if they wanted it so another colleague linked to the trial could sign them up. One said yes and was signed up straight away. The other said no. I automatically thought he was an antivaxxer. He explained he had a bad reaction to an MMR vaccine so his doctor told him to be careful. I felt so bad as he would have said yes otherwise and explained because there’s this air around antivaxxers who make those who have valid reasons to say no until they speak to their doctor and check if it’s okay to have the vaccine is an excuse to not to get vaccinated for the general population
And it's because of people like your colleague that everyone who can be vaccinated should be vaccinated.
And now we see there's also side effects of the covid vaccine. Many people I know will never get a booster or be complied to get a vaccine again because of their reaction
Wow. You honestly sound like a terrible person. The people who judge others for not taking Covid were the most authoritarian and evil people.
Dr. Mike is unbelievably genuine, and unlike Dr Oz and other medical personalities, I would trust him and his opinion with my life. His background led him to be a lot more grateful for his education than the average doctor. I believe he took full advantage of his time in medical school and I think his knowledge shows that clearly.
These "moms" take a personal specific case and think it can be applied to all cases.
It amazes me how these people think their sample size of one (without controls, data, analysis etc.) is greater evidence than 3 clinical study phases involving thousands... not to mention post-licensure monitoring of vaccine safety. They mention risk-benefit analysis but yet seem unable to perform such even when faced with expert opinion and evidence. Protecting kids from vaccinations is like telling a kid not to wear a seatbelt because it may cause bruising in an accident.
yes they have a bad effect to vaccines they think vaccine=bad
Wait I agree with your argument but the use of quotes around moms has me very confused
@@sashat3632 I presume it's to denot sarcasm and his personal opinion that they're not qualified to be parents.
Honestly I didn't believe for a second that woman has arthritis. Problem with their little anecdotes is how utterly vague they are
*doctor with actual medical training brings up statistics*
antivax mom: YoUrE WrOng
I have a Bachelor Degree in Science, Cell and Molecular Biology; I am a former teacher (in my home country) of Human Anatomy and Physiology as well as Chemistry. I am a former Licensed Dietitian and I also have a degree and currently practice as a Doctor of Dental Surgery. I have taken several mandatory as well as elective courses in immunology, bacteriology, virology, biochemistry, histology, microbiology, genetics and alike. I am
a former research and teaching assistant at a graduate department of Neurogenetics at one of top US universities. I have spent 22 years of my life at school 9 years of which was university level. I am sad to report that when it came to vaccines they only taught us the vaccine schedule and literally nothing in regards to mechanism of action, the types and role of adjuvants, nor adverse reactions. I trusted that vaccines are safe and effective just like you. However, for reasons irrelevant to this discussion, I did my own research namely reviewing primary research literature published in JAMA, JADA, PubMed, etc as well as CDC’s website and their own research published there and I state in confidence that the truth is hidden in plain site and there is absolutely positively no chance that after researching vaccine ingredients you could still claim vaccines are safe. No chance. And by the way, to date, I have not been able to locate a single randomized, double-blind placebo study with a statistically significant sample size that would prove safety of any single vaccine not to mention when they are administered in combination or multiplicity at one seating thus completely disregarding any possible synergistic toxicity of such adjuvants.
Don’t be a sheep and do your own research.
Peyton Ross I have a Bachelor Degree in Science, Cell and Molecular Biology; I am a former teacher (in my home country) of Human Anatomy and Physiology as well as Chemistry. I am a former Licensed Dietitian and I also have a degree and currently practice as a Doctor of Dental Surgery. I have taken several mandatory as well as elective courses in immunology, bacteriology, virology, biochemistry, histology, microbiology, genetics and alike. I am
a former research and teaching assistant at a graduate department of Neurogenetics at one of top US universities. I have spent 22 years of my life at school 9 years of which was university level. I am sad to report that when it came to vaccines they only taught us the vaccine schedule and literally nothing in regards to mechanism of action, the types and role of adjuvants, nor adverse reactions. I trusted that vaccines are safe and effective just like you. However, for reasons irrelevant to this discussion, I did my own research namely reviewing primary research literature published in JAMA, JADA, PubMed, etc as well as CDC’s website and their own research published there and I state in confidence that the truth is hidden in plain site and there is absolutely positively no chance that after researching vaccine ingredients you could still claim vaccines are safe. No chance. And by the way, to date, I have not been able to locate a single randomized, double-blind placebo study with a statistically significant sample size that would prove safety of any single vaccine not to mention when they are administered in combination or multiplicity at one seating thus completely disregarding any possible synergistic toxicity of such adjuvants.
Don’t be a sheep and do your own research.
@@martinap2682 hi im 16 and none of those words make sense. but ive been vaccinated my whole life and im perfectly healthy so. ✊👋
@Tee S Wow I've seen you in many pro vax comments
Martina P yeah, no proof that they work aside from the diseases that have been mostly eradicated. Polio for example. It’s almost like less people got polio after the vaccine was administered. Also, if you have to name all of the reasons why your opinion is substantial, then most likely what you’ve said is bullshit.
Another excellent video!!
I've never heard someone say "they don't listen to logic" in such a nice way
mellissa is right, her child shouldnt get vaccines, but telling others to not get vaccines as well, is wrong. its like saying, oh im allergic to peanuts, so you shouldnt ever eat peanuts because my daughter had a allergic reaction to peanuts. yes your child shouldnt get vaccines since theres a reaction to the body, but telling others, to not take vaccines is not right.
Agree people shouldn’t prevent others because of personal experiences
Agreed. Though I wouldn’t use this metaphor with anti-vaxxers. Just because we as a society DO ask other kids at schools not to bring peanut products so the kid with peanut allergies doesnt have a reaction.
I understand what your saying, but antivaxxers are very ______, so they can easy get confused.
my younger sister had a kidney reaction to a baby vaccine, and as a result, she had to be hospitalized for a few weeks, and she will not be able to get that specific vaccine again, and others that may have the same outcome. however, my family and I are still on vaccines. if my sister cannot get this vaccine, she is at risk of having this disease, and to avoid this it is necessary that the people who have contact with her have the vaccine. Get vaccinated to protect yourself, and those who for health reasons cannot be vaccinated.
took the words right outta my mouth 💯
Also, if anything, shouldn't she be encouraging others to get vaccines to create that herd immunity since her child couldn't get vaccines?
"parents know their children best" my parents didnt know I had ADHD, a mood disorder, or Ehlers-Danlos until a doctor informed them.
I am unable to take the flu vaccine without having a dangerous reaction to it. I have contracted H1N1 flu virus. It was the sickest I have ever been in my life. It took me months to get back to full health.
To everyone who recieves a flu vaccine each year I extend a huge thank you. I appriciate every person who gets vaccinated and helps lower my chances of catching the flu again.
I have been able to be vaccinated for everything else required in my life and my children have all been vaccinated without any issues. We all need to do our part in helping each other stay healthy and safe.
Blessed be and good health to all of you.
@@mareikeho7425 you have copied this comment from someone. I saw this comment.
@@naveennidhurshan6939 Yeah I saw it too
you had the eric the midget disease
My parents didnt know I had tongue tied until I was 10/11. Not as serious as the poster but hey they both have something wrong with speech.
Great video Mike! Well presented and showed both sides. I will say, i think there is more to discuss in terms of cases of harm that people have experienced in tandem with vaccines. But for entertainment educational purposes, it was a good watch thanks for making it!
You can not view reaction to vaccination in a vacuum. You must understand that side effects to a given vaccine typically mirror the same seen with people infected with the actual infectious disease. That tells you those are a result of exposure to = the pathogen.
Thus in so much as the infectious disease exists - hence why there are vaccines - you will therefore see one outcome or the other. Either a few susceptible individuals risk what are rare side effects to vaccination = or they risk the same from catching the infectious disease - which increases that risk exponentially.
As an aside. People unable to tolerate exposure to vaccines which are weaker by design would more than likely react similarly - or worse - upon simply catching the infectious disease. This means those few in number people who reacted badly to vaccination would represent the same we would expect to see if the infectious disease simply spread through the population unchecked = except there are far fewer of them. Think about it.
As someone who disagrees with some points on both sides I do appreciate your respectfulness, as it is important
When I was 13, I choked on food. I stopped eating as I didn’t want to increase my risk of choking again. Join me and stop eating, don’t feed your children either, as they might choke aswell.
Comment so good it doesn't need anymore replies.
I am now anti-food
Food is just part of a big conspiracy from the big food chains and the government (which is in reality composed of big, gluttonous panda bears disguised as politicians). Your body doesn't need food, I read it from some random guy's blog online, and I trust him. Now I'm anti-food. Get informed, sheep!
I once almost drowned, so now I won’t let me or my kids drink liquid.
I agree 100% of people who eat food die regardless of choking.
Doctor with a degree: the reactions are one in a million
Anti-vax mom: *passive aggressively shakes head no*
"Your facts make me uncomfortable. Could you just tone down the reality a little bit?"
childrenshealthdefense.org/news/4-billion-and-growing-u-s-payouts-for-vaccine-injuries-and-deaths-keep-climbing/
Injuries and deaths of children are worth more than $4 BILLION already paid out to victims.
Parents who have injured or dead children after receiving defective medicatons of any kind should seek proper legal advice from law firms specializing in their tragic circumstances.
@@SeaJay_Oceans And a study by Chewly's gum says I should smoke less.
Actually.. many doctors don't get really get or read detailed information for research papers. I have actually argued with doctors over various things and won because I read a lot of research papers. Alot of the time, one disease, the doctor may actually spend 1 page of information on it, maybe 15minutes of lectures on it during their degree and never read anything about it later. Never totally trust a diagnosis. Ask more doctors opinions.
@@michaelvanderbeek6869 Have you taken medical school? How would you know how individual doctors studied during their graduate programs.
The man in the purple shirt could be a good Kermit the frog impersonator. Great video!!!!
The impact of data on a person depends on the type of person. I have some mental contidition (I won't name it for anonymity sake) that make me think of everything as a calculated risk. I always prefer data over anecdonal evidence before making a decision.
That's called intelligence.
Child: when I grow up-
Anivax parent: slow down there buckaroo.
I'm not just dead inside....I'm also dead outside LMAOO the funniest comment I’ve read on RUclips.
Sarkis Antonyan lol same
I'm not just dead inside....I'm also dead outside you’re acting everyone live on this planet is vaccinated. Vaccines don’t make you live longer
I'm not just dead inside....I'm also dead outside, holup holup holup u got too much dip on ur chip
@@D2n6 vaccines greatly lower your chances of dying early , you argument is stupid
The brunette antivaxxer had absolutely no business here. She wasn't here to have a conversation she thought she was going to convert them.
Sam Rader Very true. She was rather rude.
@@seaofag9752 Just went no, no, no and shaking her head to every single sentence. It wasn't much of a debate and it reminded me at the Jenny chick.
Yep. Honestly it disgusts me giving anti-vaxxers a platform entirely. All they are are selfish narcissists. Half the time it feels like they have Munchausens, believing their kid has this wild disease due to a vaccine when an all rationality, their kid is fine.
Sea of AG
Welp not really rude... just ignorant
@@inkflux. Ignorance is rude
You should have been in that conversation to educate them. They would have benefited alot from your point of view.
Never thought Doctor Mike would react to jubilee LOL!!!
My daughter has a severe egg allergy and many vaccines are suspended in a type of egg protein. I strongly believe in vaccines because I have an autoimmune disease and heart condition. So I as a parent took my daughter to a specialist who did all her vaccines in divided dosages and we stayed in the office for 2 hours after each dosage. She is now a healthy 14 year old and has outgrown the egg allergy and has had ALL of her vaccines 🥰
My sisters kid has a severe egg allergy. She's waiting for it to die off before vaccinating her child. She's not antivax, she's just waiting to vax.
Good for her, but, I’ve never heard of an egg allergy.
@@nomila7297 It can be just as severe as a peanut allergy. Look it up
Dee
That’s one thing I learned today
Nice!
lol the anti-vax mom like "oh I started doing research and that's not what it was" ok, madam internet Ph.D
She probably reads facebook articles religiously
She probably loves Jen Mcarthy too haha
I mean.. "anti-vax mom" pretty much sums it up.
Please don't shit on the power of essential oils and sage
I definetly agree BUT the internet IS a wonderful library filled with knowledge...you just have to be careful of the sources.
i went to an anti-vaxxer convention, but all I got was this measley shirt
thank you for educatining the world, doctor :)
People in the 80s: we will cure cancer in the near future
Doctors now: for the last time vaccines are safe
sad.
right???
Pharmaceutical companies today bigger than ever: Rather ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.
We are about to have a cancer vaccine
TwisterTuff yeah that causes Down syndrome
Bob Sears, the anti-vaccine pediatrician, got his license suspended after causing an outbreak of a preventable disease in the city he lives. You can look it up.
Nice
Yup. Measles outbreak in Southern California. 100% preventable.
The thing that sucks is that it's not directly affecting the people who make the decision to not vaccinate your kid.
Holy shit, your right. Jubilee needs to get some better people.
Meli Rayne shit your right
respectfulinsolence.com/2018/06/29/dr-bob-sears-finally-faces-discipline/
This really hits different after 2021
Why
I love how this Doc takes a nuanced and middle ground approach to everything.
I still can’t get over them saying “ in my research” when trying to argue w people who went to med school... which in this case does make them more knowledgeable lmao
I dont think they know what research is
Dasha UwU it’s what Betty from their Facebook group has to say LOL
Biased easy-to-read articles are not on the same level as unbiased, real science research and medical journals. Ofc I don't expect Karens to understand the scientific language used in medical journals ... Karens don't understand what the concept of actual scientific research is, their definition of research are google searches and facebook posts.... It's hard to argue with someone who is blissfully ignorant imo
"Their research" is exactly this below, ( Confirmation Bias ), because they are not looking for info that discredits their anti-vaccine belief.. they only look for info that confirms it.
Confirmation Bias
Definition: To seek out and favor evidence that confirms one’s pre-existing beliefs or views. May also include the cognitive tendency to resist or disfavor evidence that is contrary to one’s pre-existing beliefs.
Katheryn Dutchess YES THIS.
The moment real facts come out, Karen’s be like
Ima just not see that
**antis talking about pros downplaying something while completely downplaying all the benefits of vaccines**
They're such hypocrites
And downplaying just how bad things like polio, measles, ect. are.
One lady said just bc she doesn’t have “Dr” in front of her name doesn’t make her less informed… ID BEG TO DIFFER
I made a remix of anti vaxxers
While creating mass fear and hysteria by exaggerating the side effects of vaccines and other conditions that aren't even related such as arthritis.
My issue with vaccines is that SO many are given in one sitting. I believe they should be spaced out. How do we know which vaccine they are having complications from?
Studies have been done which showed that concurrent administration is not deleterious. As an aside. At any given time your body is fighting innumerable microorganisms as they are everywhere around you. As vaccines are weaker by definition - they tax your immune system less. 🤔
I got vaccinated for rubeola when i was a baby, yet I got rubeola when i was 14 years old. Neither my family nor I blamed "the vacc didn't work", it's just my immune was bad at that time. Still doesn't change my mind about getting vacc, a jab it is.
When the MMR first came out it was only one dose. It took some years to determine that 2 doses were needed to insure good immunity response. Meanwhile the Rubella vaccine is believed to last ~15 years for most. So developing Rubella 14 years later does not mean the vaccine did not work - especially if it was a mild case. Vaccines are not "100% preventative". They simply offer better odds at avoiding serious illness with milder side effects than catching what they prevent.
I've also had rubella, along with chicken pocks and measles. My immune system sucks but I'm still not dumb enough to be anti Vax. Have all my vaccines and boosters as do my children.
Many vaccines wear off in their effectiveness over time. I think a good question for a doctor about each vaccine is, how long does it last and when should I get a booster?
“Parents know their children the best.”
Well okay then, how about next time your kid gets appendicitis you can do the surgery :D
Parents know them well enough to know that there is something wrong and get them to the ER. Drs don't check in to see if you have appendicitis. Even if the Dr was the kid's Aunt, she still wouldn't call and ask for symptoms every day. But mom's do - 'Hey, how are you doing today?'
Aside from the fact that, that sentiment was supposed to be about personality rather than internal workings of biology, I never understood it anyways. No, you don't. In fact, on average - especially over the course of years, parents know their children the LEAST. Yes, if your child is a whee little baby who you carry in your arms then you are likely the person who knows their personality (or whatever little there is of it at this stage) the best, but that's ALL. and all of that completely disappears once the child grows up and has friends, goes to school. In fact, for most people their close friends know them best.
If that sentiment were true, the only time a parent would take a child to the hospital would be to get a prescription; and even then, the parent would tell the doctor "Timmy needs 400mg of Blahblahblah for the next week. Be a dear and write that up for me."
No offense to my mother, but if she told me one thing and a doctor told me another (in the context of health), I'm going with the doctor. As much as I love her, Mom didn't go to medical school. And you know what? She could be right and the doctor could be wrong. But I know what has the better chance of happening.
Oh snap
@@emilykelly2815 that's totally missing the point. the implication of the quote is that parents always know the best course of action for their kids. no, doctors are not omnipresent omniscient miracle workers. but they know how to prevent, diagnose, and treat illness, and refusing to listen to their advice is almost always a terrible idea.
Hmmm...
This bridge is only 99.9997% safe.
I think I'll swim
half way across the bridge it may collapse and you may fall a long distance and die, so we are making it mandatory for everyone to jump off the bridge at half the distance of the highest point so they can become immune if that happens.
@@Dragnmastralex but then they drown and die
@@dagreenblock7516 So, let's shield the manufacturer of the bridge from liability and make the people we force to go over it pay for all the damage.
@@Dragnmastralex Terrible analogy
@@Dragnmastralex wow ive never heard a worse analogy congrats
My nephew started having severe seizures a few days after his HPV vaccine and don’t get me started on friends and family who have become extremely injured after their Covid jabs. My tenant’s dad who was healthy as a horse died one week after a Pfizer Covid shot of myocarditis and her mom stroked out two weeks after her second Pfizer shot. My naturopathic doctor is busy seeing tons of injured people from vaccines!
Right.......... 🙄
@@varyolla435 Are you seriously rolling your eyes at these tragedies? SERIOUSLY?!!!!!!
"injured" right....
Man, this vid really hits different now
Two types of people in this world
“You have a 99% live rate”
“Yea but you also have a 1% death rate”
100% of vaccinated people die
100% of anti vax kid dies
The diffirence is one is speed running
@@QtpieM this comment is gold
@@QtpieM you mean they are efficient
Finally a true Statement from the greatest minds of sociology
Also, 1 in 3000 means 0,03% risk of seizures. That's not high compared to the risk of meningitis, tetanus and so on that you risk while you are unvaccinated
Medical professional: here are the facts
Professional googlers: no, no, no
This is an under appreciated comment 😂
LOL
WhatsApp university graduates
Best comment ever 😂
It is truly sad that so many people have been led to believe that Drs are the know all end all. It doesnt take a genius to realize anyone can learn anything with the information that is readily available if you look for it. When youre blind to all the doctors that disagree with the main stream propaganda, its real easy to make arrogant and ignorant comments such as yours. When the medical profession is the third leading cause of death, you would think a lot more people would become aware maybe they arent as smart as you have been led to believe!!! Why are so many people dying at the hands of the medical proffession? You think your making jokes but maybe you might want to take it a little more seriously because someday you or someone you love might be one of those statistics. Will it still be funny?
Could you do a video explaining the FDA approval process of vaccines? Could you compare why traditional vaccines take 5+ years to be approved and why the c19 vaccine took less than 1 year? I ask people this being genuinely curious and people just call me an anti-vaxer and ignore the question or report it as spreading false information. I’m not pro or anti c19 vaccine. I’m not making any medical claims or statements. Just asking a couple of questions. I’m honestly just curious what steps if any were skipped. Additionally why the faster process can’t be used for other vaccines that are only 2 years into the 5 year process that could help people now. Thanks.
You know that in 1939 that the Atomic Bomb was just a theoretical concept on paper = yet a few years later it was a reality. How?? Answer: the government spending billions of dollars and a massive amount of resources to create it. Ergo given the emergent nature of Covid governments and vaccine developers worked together - which does not typically happen - devoting a massive amount of resources towards developing vaccines. Also they were already familiar with the viral morphology as SARS-CoV-2 is a new variant of existing Coronaviruses which researchers have studied since the 1960's.
I need a reboot of this in Covid times