At the very least, he convinced me that his heart is in the right place. Sometimes, you just need the right opportunity, the right project to show what you can do. I hope Mass Effect is that project for him.
Having the proper intention and feeling for the project counts for a lot. Sometimes the thing that makes a show a wonderful experience is the love of the cast and crew for the project. It can have clunky writing, bad SFX, and inconsistent storytelling, and yet if I can feel that love, I can forgive all that and will love it anyway. I can think of at least one book adaptation that was like that. It was, by any metric, objectively BAD at times. But there was no questioning how much love there was for the project and characters behind the scenes, and despite everything else, that came through and made it something more than the stuff critics could rightfully pan.
A good way to make a Live action project about Mass Effect would be telling the First Contact War, The protagonist can be anybody, it sets up the worldbuilding pretty well for new fans as the audience gets to know the Alien races as the characters do and it doesn't mess with player choices in the games.
@StarEnterprise72 Yeah, you don't know how much i've always imagined what the first contact war was like, (maybe like halo games but with "dorama") since we only hear about it in the games, and it's so far apart from the games that the writers have a lot of room to work with.
So many people want this, I hope they listen to us. Some have even suggested following a young Anderson and his beef with Saren or even the Illusive Man. So much potential.
You can even tell the story of Ashley's grandpa abdication, and some Anderson tidbits during the First Contact War as easter eggs for the fans who played the games. And show the batarian - human conflict growing and the discovery of the Citadel and the other species. Really a good entry point for the show tbh.
I think he at least has the right idea of what many of us think makes Mass Effect the way it is, especially the way he explains characters, most of us relate to these characters in many different ways and the fact our favourites are aliens is really interesting.
For some reasons, I always thought of the Mass Effect trilogy as the first "movie where you are the hero", like the old books of the genre. By the time I ended the first game, the whole family would sit behind me and follow the adventures of Shepard as if they were watching a movie. And they played it too, haha. I'd like to see this show materialize and expand the ME Universe.
I really like what he's saying about being the one who wrote a Fast and Furious movie. It made me realise that he was asked to write something specific yes, but that doesn't mean he can only write that, and he did work with great people in the industry like he said. So yeah it was reassuring I'm actually inclined to trust him now
I’ll never not be skeptical of adaptations but absolutely feeling good about everything he’s said. It feels like he has a lot of respect and care for the property and has not only put thought into why others respect and care for the series but has actually identified a lot of the key elements. I really like what he said about how the series could be an ensemble experience akin to GoT but “let’s not start there.” There’s always room for disparity between intent and execution so the verdict on the show as a whole remains up in the air as always but he’s at least saying a lot of the right things.
He was speaking from the heart. Like many others, the Fast and Furious headline had me worried; almost to the point of dismissing a project that i have been dreaming about since I was a literal child. Still reserving my hype, but after hearing this guys case, and how transparent he was, I want to give him a chance.
As a Halo fan that had to endure what they did with the TV show, I have so much hope for the Mass Effect show as the writer actually played the games. Which the writers at Halo did not. He seems passionate about the story, which halo writers didn't. Hopefully it's going to be a good show considering that the people who did Fallout are in this. Fingers crossed
hell the expanse "needs" a video game adaptation the same way mass effect "needs" a tv show adaptation stories both end up contending with some galaxy threat things(the reapers for mass effect/ the unknown aggressors/ring entitys/dark gods for the expanse) pretty much the major difference is that the expanse is generally speaking more grounded in reality
Other than my family, Mass Effect 2 was there when i was fighting cancer. At that time, I had played ME1 and found it somewhat confusing, and I never went on to ME3. Just several hours of ME2. In the last 2 months I picked up the legendary collection and have been going in order and taking my guy shepherd from one game to the next. Just started ME3 last night and to be honest, he is right, this game is important to some of us. A good game is a like an old friend that we can visit. And its really special when those old friends helped you see through some hard times. I look forward to the show if it pops off. Fallout was just amazing, so I'll choose the be the optimist here :)
I did the same thing: I finished ME2 and started 3 today. I beat them when they first came out, but returning to it is nostalgic and unforgettable. ME is a fantastic series.
I think the strangeness is just from the tone of the initial announcement which sounded like it was further along that pipeline. I dont think anyone is surprised that there are stages necessarily to developing media, necessarily.@HakuYuki001
They said in development, which is multiple steps away from actually happening. Cases in point.... Game of thrones. They've developed a number of spin offs that didn't make it to pilot, and thus couldn't get a season order. Have we seen anything saying they got a season order yet?
@@Mr.Unfair I don't think you've actually made a point. My point is that the "might" is factual and not at all strange. What's strange is taking one article from a random media outlet as reliably representative of the actual situation. But you do you @Mr.Unfair.
I hope the whole plot and characters are serious. And I also hope we get some space battles and some action in the cockpit during battle, but that's too good to be true in this modern day.
I know that we as gamers don’t have problems with animation like the general audience, and that’s why I think animation is the best way to adapt video game stories
shepards the best story though what use is a story based on the first contact war that hardly lasts much(would be good for flashbacks) and no use for the rachni war or krogan rebellions since they lasted hundreds of years
@username.exenotfound2943 1. That all makes zero sense. These are important events in lore, and nothing about them makes them unsuitable for a show. 2. Shepard is only "the best" in this regard because his story is the most developed. If you aren't going to develop the story with a piece of ME media, then you're wasting your time. So Shepard is the least useful part of Mass Effect to cover - especially in case the show turns out bad (if it gets made), that way Shepard doesn't get tied to it like the Master Chief did for the Halo show.
Quit gatekeeping, gamers (especially stuck up ones like you) aren't the only ones who should be "allowed" to see Shepard's story, like seriously how does them telling Shepard's story hurt you so bad that you are so adamant that it shouldn't be put to screen. Don't like it don't watch it and play your videogames, it's not like the show is going to magically destroy everyone's copies of the 3 games.
@@Tballer_96 That's not the problem. The problem is that anyone who really cares about the show already knows the story, and not having Shepard isolates him from the show being bad. And there's also tons of opportunities for other, more interesting stories.
@@PeebeesPet Ah I see, good/rare to see someone actually likes Andromeda charactes. my favorite was Remnant tech, structures and robots. their design was so interesting to me. "let the past be the past" was the way devs wanted to start Andromeda with. but they received so much hate from the fans, sadly.
@@MaybeBecause-m8t As far as I’m concerned, new galaxy, new game. The original was designed from the start to be a trilogy, like Star Wars. Expecting a stand alone game to compare to that is obscene. One of the biggest flaws with the game in my mind was the lack of dialogue options. A few more options per interaction would’ve made such a difference. But at least they got rid of the superficial paragon renegade system. I don’t like my choices limited based on whether I’m considered good or evil. I don’t play roles in these games. I always play myself. So the more options, the better.
@@PeebeesPet "..expecting a standalone game to compare to that is so obscene..". that is so true and fair. I think if Andromeda hasn't been stabbed in the back by the fans, the Devs were intended to start a whole new trilogy.
Thanks for the update. He is reassuring. But he is not the only player. We'll see. I'll watch it anyway. I hope it has some connection to the next game. I'm assuming it will have connections to existing stories. Like Paragon Lost. In Shepard's timeline.
@@dorottyapapp it is going to take way more than two years for the next Mass Effect if they are making it the same way as other games are being made and perhaps longer if it is made like Dragon Age. I would prefer they make a smaller game so we get it sooner. But I'm in a minority. In addition, I left a comment on channel "Mark Darrah on Games" (who was a BioWare director) on one of his videos talking about why AAA games take a long time to make and suggested I rather see more AA games if I get them more frequently. He responded with a successful AAA game makes more money than 10 AA games.
this is honestly the most reassuring thing to hear and so soon after is amazing. He was very right about saying that the show should be for everyone not just the people who played the games. Too many fans are gatekeeping the shepard story because they don't want anything canonized, but this is a series and story that deserves to be enjoyed by far more than just gamers. And just because one path is chosen for the show doesn't mean it's canon, TV is a completely separate universe. Fans need to stop gatekeeping ME1-3 from being told in series format.
I think it is important that the lead writer is a fan of the source material. But it's not a guarantee of excellence. Still more hopeful now than I was before. John Cena would be fine to play a character among the ensemble. But I worry he's gunning to be Shepard which would be bad on multiple levels. I would also not want him to play James Vega, because for me that sets the TV series in the wrong time period. Give us stories from the 20 years that precede Shepard coming onto the scene. They can do 10 seasons and not cover 20 years. We won't have the skies being darkened by the Reapers, but from the games' lore there is reason to believe Sovereign had been active in the galaxy at least since the Rachni wars. So, Sovereign at least can make appearances from time to time in a pre-Shepard TV series. There could be an entire season devoted to Saren becoming a pawn of Sovereign.
That would fall into the Acolyte genre, wherein the whole plot depends upon everyone being killed or turned into amnesia so that the Big Bad can be completely unknown by everyone once they arrive in Mass Effect 1.
I cant think of a single character he should or could be playing. The only acceptable one would be an entirely new character. If he plays Shepard i wont be watching. I likely wont be anyway cos it will be trash
@@LuisManuelLealDias Sovereign featuring does not mean characters in the show knowing, or even seeing, Sovereign aside from those who are indoctrinated, and they do either die or are controlled by Sovereign to never reveal its existence or true nature. The Shepard saga should never be told on screen so I don't care about the audience learning the truth about Sovereign, but even that doesn't need to be explicit in the series.
I respect that he claims to be a fan of sci-fi and that he professes love for the series, but he does not strike me as a true mass effect fan. The number of times he asks "you know what I mean?" Instead of actually saying something tangible does not help me build confidence in him. I really hope I'm wrong and that he delivers, but for now, I share all your reservations and remain "cautiously pessimistic", "you know what I mean?"
Same here lady...same here. At least he played a whole thing and seams understand what is about and that is crucial. If I be him I will not touch the Shep story. It's too risky as that story with all variations are very well known worldwide and request canonizing things...bad idea I will say. They should focus on time pre-ME1 on pre-mass relay discovery-activation-first contact and war, so we may see less aged Hacket, Anderson, Ashlys father, Alek Ryder, Illusive Man (that may be interesting), even later near series end Normandy SR1 under Anderson command. Shep may show up as a side role in Captain rank or so but sure not as main character. That be a vary good choice. The TV series needs to show the beginning and establish the Lore so people who don't know what Mass Effect is may understand. I think that be less painful even if TV series fails accomplishing the task. Mas Effect universe is Star Track big and complex and not deserves less. Source material should be respected even if they want to try to pull this thing off. If they change it on direction of Marvel or so..... I'm not sure current filmmaking industry with they policies can pull out this properly. This requiring GOT level of financing and same quality acting skills. This is what I'm thinking. Good video, thanks Kala.
It is pretty doubtful that John Cena will be in Mass Effect, at least as a major role, He is spending the entire year of 2025 as a full time wrestler - as he announced his retirement.
If you model the show after Firefly, but give it the polish and look of the current Star Trek show, you can't miss. Focus on the characters and their relationships, and have have the overarching story play out in the background.
It's best not to have high expectations. This way, one can't be too disappointed. A film or series should be about the story and characters, first not big names. That's how they can blow the budget fast.
I hope the main character is shepherd and his team and friends and lover since it’s about the threat of the reapers and all cuse if they gunna put a random main character idk if it will make sense while shapard is the main protagonist even a n7 soldier and hero of the galaxy
I still think they should have offered this project to someone with much more experience with science-fiction, especially the kind that got very good user and critics ratings and were a sucess, so this also applies to the producers, cause one of them worked on the Borderlands movie, which flopped insanely hard. He can understand the difficulty of the assignment, plus it helps by playing the games themselves, but the question here is if he can actually deliver it while being faithful to the source material.
One lesson I learned about the creators being involved with movies based on their works, it usually insures it won't be a trainwreck but it doesn't guarantee it will be epically good either, Fallout was fortunate but that isn't a guarantee for Mass Effect.
I said this before, and im saying it again, i think we should give the guy a chance. Artists shouldnt be judged solely by their work in one genre. Fast and furious movies are a different genre and are made for a different audience. If they cast John Cena, i hope he gets to use tactical cloak.
Like your comment of basically an unknown cast, GoT had some big names and it also killed off the big names and made some stars of what was left, so let Cena play an Anderson type of role and bring some new young(er) talent into the Series.
yeah I said it else but intent is met with intent, and the interview does at least project he's going in with good faith at least. Like time will tell if it's good but maybe just maybe we'll not have another mass effect deception.
I hope the excellent Mass Effect books\audiobooks by Karypshyn himself were also read as they helped flesh out the ME Universe - Mass Effect Revelation - Mass Effect Ascension - Mass Effect Retribution
He clearly gets it, and by putting ME in the same breath as Star Trek and Star Wars, he understands that he’s on sacred ground. Let’s just hope he has the courage of his convictions to stop studio interference.
the benefit of hindsight of course is that the writers can make it seem it was all planned out and less of a deus ex machina when it comes to the crucible, just hint at in in mass effect 1 and 2 just as "project star dust" as we know was the death star
When journalists announced the writer for this show, they really shouldn't have lead with the "Fast and the Furious" angle, lol. After hearing him speak on his vision for the show though, I'm less worried about it. He gets it: if you can't nail the characters and make us care, then the show is already dead in the water.
True, but the fact they said they want to do it right says a great deal about how careful they want to be with the lore. That gives me hope. They need to play the games. They need to read the lore. Take your time. just make the wait worth it.
Mass Effect has many, MANY different story choices and events that are completely different from each other. No two playthroughs are the same. This could go either very well or fail spectacularly
Yeah this one deserves some caution, one of the issues will be how to make the show feel like it belongs in the Mass Effect universe - it could easily descend into a generic action space shooter with bad CGI space battles and big John Cena flexing his muscles in a cut down space suit / muscle top slinging one-liners... Anyway it is way to early to speculate, as it appears the show is still waiting on approval - could turn into anything from here - maybe a musical?
they will have to change its ending up since we dont need It to have a divisive at best ending assuming it ever reaches that point also make it so the reapers have a better justfication or none at all(you cant say synthetics would wipe out life as the gek and quarians just proved that theory false in the good ending)just make it so the crucible docks harbinger attempts to stop this personally the fails then the "perfect ending" and since the writers have hindsight they can forshadow things better like shepards fixed body capable of surviving long periods in space(would explain how he survives with the destruct ending) also actually show or imply kind of that the illusive man was either indoctrinated sometime in mass effect 2 time or sovereign used him as a fail safe in mass effect 1 so by mass effect 2 the reapers have already been manipulating from the scenes
id have more confidence if it was made by HBO so long as they dont fumble it kind of in season 2 like house of the dragons(one of the writers did a runner which may explain why its different)
I feel a bit better about the show now after that interview and knowing that the writer actually cares about Mass Effect and getting it right. Also, him acknowledging that "yeah I wrote for F&F, but I do other stuff" made me feel good because he knows that's not what we're looking for. Having the Fallout team work on it is great too. I just really hope they don't go with a big name cast. Get some not as well known actors who actually care about more than a paycheck. Put more money into the CGI and set pieces, not just the cast
the real decision would be the squad since 4 members seems like the max without having bland characters but the issue with that is liara, garrus wrex tali leaves ashely and kaiden so do we sacrifice their characters or something? unless they are confident all 6 could be there and it would still be complelling and the characters will still be good
I am indeed hesitant, nervous and feeling many other things. The mass effect universe is so huge. You know it’s not just one or two major species involved. How are they going to make is just as impactful as the games. How can they make a Shepherd so to speak and make it just as big. I’m very scared
I'm sold! He has the same passion and energy that other creators who successfully adapted videogames have: Jeff Fowler and Pat Casey with the Sonic the Hedgehog cinematic universe, Aaron Horvath and Michael Jelenic with the Super Mario Bros Movie, and the many ones from projects like Detective Pikachu, Arcane, The Last of Us, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Angry Birds, Warcraft, even older ones like Final Fantasy Advent Children, the CGI Resident Evil movies and the original Street Fighter 2 animated movie. You know what? Screw it! I want an adaptation of the original trilogy and I believe Cena can be a excellent Shepard like Mark Meer was!
Being fair, the "I've Got Family" thing was/is the legacy of the franchise. the writer of the 9th film cannot in anyway convince them to change that. he has to play it by their rules.
Go back 10 years and i would have been super excited but now im really dreading this show. I really hope they dont try to force big name actors in just for the sake of it. I hope they even use some of the voice actors as a primary element and at the ery least if they do retell Shepard they use the player most chosen pathways bioware has images of. Also i hope if they do go the Shepard route the characters look like the characters and not just putting people in the roles for "big actor name clout" if the dont go shepard route, first contact war is the best thing they can do, but i can see that being a very short series
I hope his "relatable" isn't too direct to what's happening today, too trendy. The character relations have to be timeless, that's why Mass Effect characters or why BG3 characters work so well - and their problems are timeless human problems. But he sounds like he's passionate about doing it right. I feel like he is making it to be his big thing.
oh my god I'm so hyped, I'm so hyped, i'm so HYPED! It can be absolutely amazing. it also can be a disaster.... But i really hope for a masterpiece, PLEASE don't ruin the franchise I'm so in love with! Amazon could do The Expanse which i consider the best space tv opera since the Babylon 5 ... Amazon could do Fallout ... Let it be the best from both, and not Rings of power bs.....please!!!
I don't like any of the "Fast & Furious" movies. There's that. And then there's too many "you know what I mean?"s. No dude, I absolutely do NOT know what you mean... I keep my fish in my crystal ball.
I'll see how this goes. It's okay to enjoy stories in multiple forms. At the end of the day, the Mass Effect games will still be there. An adaptation of them, or a story told in that universe, doesn't have to tarnish the specific games. If the show gets made and it's horrible, the Reapers will skip us this cycle. 😂
Personally I'd think it'd be really awesome if they have around 4-5 seasons. The 1st season is the first contact war. The humans would fully encounter the turians at the end of episode 2. Both the human characters and the audience would dislike the turians and that'd be cool going into the 2nd season. The 2nd-4th season would be a retelling of the trilogy. The story wouldn't be exactly the same, but very similar. And then there could be a spinoff 1 season show on retelling Andromeda. Small to heavy changes would occur with the story. But honestly I'd be perfectly fine with just 1-2 seasons about the first contact war.
5:23 if you kill of wrex in the first game, he doesn’t show up in the later games - that is a no brainer obviously and proves he has just found some relevant talking points to demonstrate knowledge and understanding he doesn’t have. Mark this comment for post release, this is another cash cow grab to finish off a last ditch money maker of a beloved but nearly dead franchise
The ME3 ending broke my heart so deeply that I have 0 expectations for anything that follows. Somehow, I still love the Mass Effect universe like crazy.
At least in this, the creators at seem like they have knowledge of the source material. (I hope they actually use that knowledge) Wasn't it the Halo series where the writers said they never played and specifically stayed away from learning about it... And master cheeks actor also had no clue about any of it? I will stay cautiously optimistic. I can't see John Cena as Shepard, but I would see him as Mocap Wrex Good I hope they add Conrad Verner as a character 🤣
At the very least, he convinced me that his heart is in the right place. Sometimes, you just need the right opportunity, the right project to show what you can do. I hope Mass Effect is that project for him.
Having the proper intention and feeling for the project counts for a lot. Sometimes the thing that makes a show a wonderful experience is the love of the cast and crew for the project. It can have clunky writing, bad SFX, and inconsistent storytelling, and yet if I can feel that love, I can forgive all that and will love it anyway. I can think of at least one book adaptation that was like that. It was, by any metric, objectively BAD at times. But there was no questioning how much love there was for the project and characters behind the scenes, and despite everything else, that came through and made it something more than the stuff critics could rightfully pan.
Cmon the guy read THE FOUNDATION of all things! I totally trust his nerdiness now! 🤭🤭
@@mihan2d Definitely. I perked up at that right away.
John Cena as Conrad Verner is a dream casting😂
I can actually get behind that! 😆
Cena as every Vorcha with Meer in the background starring him down
There's nothing interesting about Conrad Verner. he was just a filler.
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sorry I thought you were serious 😅
@@MaybeBecause-m8t tbf conrad being a high profile person WOULD be pretty funny it would be like a cameo
Interesting update, I’d like the fact that he went back to play the games.
Yeah, it's better than the halo producers, which gives me a bit more hope
A good way to make a Live action project about Mass Effect would be telling the First Contact War, The protagonist can be anybody, it sets up the worldbuilding pretty well for new fans as the audience gets to know the Alien races as the characters do and it doesn't mess with player choices in the games.
So kinda like a prequel?
@StarEnterprise72 Yeah, you don't know how much i've always imagined what the first contact war was like, (maybe like halo games but with "dorama") since we only hear about it in the games, and it's so far apart from the games that the writers have a lot of room to work with.
So many people want this, I hope they listen to us. Some have even suggested following a young Anderson and his beef with Saren or even the Illusive Man. So much potential.
The protagonist in that case would be Anderson.
His actions in that war is what gave him his name and his recommendation to become a specter.
You can even tell the story of Ashley's grandpa abdication, and some Anderson tidbits during the First Contact War as easter eggs for the fans who played the games. And show the batarian - human conflict growing and the discovery of the Citadel and the other species. Really a good entry point for the show tbh.
I’m still hesitant for now, but it is good to know the writer actually has experience and love for the series. It gives me hope for it.
I think he at least has the right idea of what many of us think makes Mass Effect the way it is, especially the way he explains characters, most of us relate to these characters in many different ways and the fact our favourites are aliens is really interesting.
The writing always makes a BioWare game what it is the voice acting and emotion is the cherry and chocolate on top.
For some reasons, I always thought of the Mass Effect trilogy as the first "movie where you are the hero", like the old books of the genre.
By the time I ended the first game, the whole family would sit behind me and follow the adventures of Shepard as if they were watching a movie. And they played it too, haha.
I'd like to see this show materialize and expand the ME Universe.
I still describe Mass Effect like that. You’re the hero in your own action movie.
I really like what he's saying about being the one who wrote a Fast and Furious movie. It made me realise that he was asked to write something specific yes, but that doesn't mean he can only write that, and he did work with great people in the industry like he said. So yeah it was reassuring I'm actually inclined to trust him now
I’ll never not be skeptical of adaptations but absolutely feeling good about everything he’s said. It feels like he has a lot of respect and care for the property and has not only put thought into why others respect and care for the series but has actually identified a lot of the key elements. I really like what he said about how the series could be an ensemble experience akin to GoT but “let’s not start there.”
There’s always room for disparity between intent and execution so the verdict on the show as a whole remains up in the air as always but he’s at least saying a lot of the right things.
Wow comparing Mass Effect to Star Trek and Star Wars! I like that!
He was speaking from the heart. Like many others, the Fast and Furious headline had me worried; almost to the point of dismissing a project that i have been dreaming about since I was a literal child. Still reserving my hype, but after hearing this guys case, and how transparent he was, I want to give him a chance.
Remember when Henry Cavill had a Mass Effect script? Was this it?
If I remember correctly that script mentioned Tali. So, it would be Shep‘s story.
Henry Cavill is a huge nerd and would be huge in this series.
As a Halo fan that had to endure what they did with the TV show, I have so much hope for the Mass Effect show as the writer actually played the games. Which the writers at Halo did not. He seems passionate about the story, which halo writers didn't. Hopefully it's going to be a good show considering that the people who did Fallout are in this. Fingers crossed
Its more junk in the making…. Why couldn’t they get Casey Hudson back
So long as we have an original protagonist, I'm ok for now.
hell the expanse "needs" a video game adaptation the same way mass effect "needs" a tv show adaptation stories both end up contending with some galaxy threat things(the reapers for mass effect/ the unknown aggressors/ring entitys/dark gods for the expanse) pretty much the major difference is that the expanse is generally speaking more grounded in reality
I quite liked The Expanse game.
Good on him I’m much less anxious knowing he is genuinely dedicated at least
Other than my family, Mass Effect 2 was there when i was fighting cancer. At that time, I had played ME1 and found it somewhat confusing, and I never went on to ME3. Just several hours of ME2. In the last 2 months I picked up the legendary collection and have been going in order and taking my guy shepherd from one game to the next. Just started ME3 last night and to be honest, he is right, this game is important to some of us. A good game is a like an old friend that we can visit. And its really special when those old friends helped you see through some hard times. I look forward to the show if it pops off. Fallout was just amazing, so I'll choose the be the optimist here :)
I did the same thing: I finished ME2 and started 3 today. I beat them when they first came out, but returning to it is nostalgic and unforgettable. ME is a fantastic series.
I bet he'll probably be watching your videos too Kala. Well, hopefully. He said he watched lots of walkthroughs with commentary.
Well, that interview sure makes me more hopeful.
Strange it’s still a “might”
Super odd right
@@kalaelizabethNot really. There are multiple stages before funding is released. Once released, there’s no going back.
I think the strangeness is just from the tone of the initial announcement which sounded like it was further along that pipeline. I dont think anyone is surprised that there are stages necessarily to developing media, necessarily.@HakuYuki001
They said in development, which is multiple steps away from actually happening. Cases in point.... Game of thrones. They've developed a number of spin offs that didn't make it to pilot, and thus couldn't get a season order. Have we seen anything saying they got a season order yet?
@@Mr.Unfair I don't think you've actually made a point. My point is that the "might" is factual and not at all strange. What's strange is taking one article from a random media outlet as reliably representative of the actual situation. But you do you @Mr.Unfair.
John Cena was actually pretty good in Peacemaker. He would be a good choice for a comedy role.
James Vega maybe? agreed, Peacemaker was funny.
I hope the whole plot and characters are serious. And I also hope we get some space battles and some action in the cockpit during battle, but that's too good to be true in this modern day.
Yes, no Borderlands movie “we have Guardians of Galaxy at home” garbage. That casting was joke and the writing worse.
I know that we as gamers don’t have problems with animation like the general audience, and that’s why I think animation is the best way to adapt video game stories
"we as gamers" Lol, just lol.
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id probably make the writers of the expanse make the mass effect show and get people who wrote for mass effect 1.
This gets me a little more excited. Clearly he’s a fan.
Most importantly imho: if there ever is a Mass Effect show, whoever is making it better keep their bloody hands off Shepard. Tell a diffrent Story!
shepards the best story though what use is a story based on the first contact war that hardly lasts much(would be good for flashbacks) and no use for the rachni war or krogan rebellions since they lasted hundreds of years
But why?
@username.exenotfound2943 1. That all makes zero sense. These are important events in lore, and nothing about them makes them unsuitable for a show. 2. Shepard is only "the best" in this regard because his story is the most developed. If you aren't going to develop the story with a piece of ME media, then you're wasting your time. So Shepard is the least useful part of Mass Effect to cover - especially in case the show turns out bad (if it gets made), that way Shepard doesn't get tied to it like the Master Chief did for the Halo show.
Quit gatekeeping, gamers (especially stuck up ones like you) aren't the only ones who should be "allowed" to see Shepard's story, like seriously how does them telling Shepard's story hurt you so bad that you are so adamant that it shouldn't be put to screen. Don't like it don't watch it and play your videogames, it's not like the show is going to magically destroy everyone's copies of the 3 games.
@@Tballer_96 That's not the problem. The problem is that anyone who really cares about the show already knows the story, and not having Shepard isolates him from the show being bad. And there's also tons of opportunities for other, more interesting stories.
Cena - Conrad Vernor
Super worried about live action.
Getting aliens right seems super hard.
What is it with Peebee that you're obsessed with? facial animation? 😁
@ The facial animation is not that bad. I’ve seen worse in the trilogy.
I’m attracted to her personality and free spirit.
@@PeebeesPet Ah I see, good/rare to see someone actually likes Andromeda charactes. my favorite was Remnant tech, structures and robots. their design was so interesting to me. "let the past be the past" was the way devs wanted to start Andromeda with. but they received so much hate from the fans, sadly.
@@MaybeBecause-m8t As far as I’m concerned, new galaxy, new game. The original was designed from the start to be a trilogy, like Star Wars. Expecting a stand alone game to compare to that is obscene.
One of the biggest flaws with the game in my mind was the lack of dialogue options. A few more options per interaction would’ve made such a difference. But at least they got rid of the superficial paragon renegade system. I don’t like my choices limited based on whether I’m considered good or evil. I don’t play roles in these games. I always play myself. So the more options, the better.
@@PeebeesPet "..expecting a standalone game to compare to that is so obscene..".
that is so true and fair. I think if Andromeda hasn't been stabbed in the back by the fans, the Devs were intended to start a whole new trilogy.
"You know what I mean" dude knows.
Thanks for the update. He is reassuring. But he is not the only player. We'll see. I'll watch it anyway. I hope it has some connection to the next game. I'm assuming it will have connections to existing stories. Like Paragon Lost. In Shepard's timeline.
That's what I'm expecting too. I'll watch but keep expectations in check haha
I thought they'll make the TV show a bridge to the next game too, but hearing it's not even green lit yet, the game might come out sooner...
@@dorottyapapp if it is green lit it takes two years. Sad that games take much longer.
@@0x8badbeef But when will it get green lit??? The clock isn't ticking yet...
@@dorottyapapp it is going to take way more than two years for the next Mass Effect if they are making it the same way as other games are being made and perhaps longer if it is made like Dragon Age. I would prefer they make a smaller game so we get it sooner. But I'm in a minority. In addition, I left a comment on channel "Mark Darrah on Games" (who was a BioWare director) on one of his videos talking about why AAA games take a long time to make and suggested I rather see more AA games if I get them more frequently. He responded with a successful AAA game makes more money than 10 AA games.
This really gave me some hope
this is honestly the most reassuring thing to hear and so soon after is amazing. He was very right about saying that the show should be for everyone not just the people who played the games. Too many fans are gatekeeping the shepard story because they don't want anything canonized, but this is a series and story that deserves to be enjoyed by far more than just gamers. And just because one path is chosen for the show doesn't mean it's canon, TV is a completely separate universe. Fans need to stop gatekeeping ME1-3 from being told in series format.
I think it is important that the lead writer is a fan of the source material. But it's not a guarantee of excellence. Still more hopeful now than I was before.
John Cena would be fine to play a character among the ensemble. But I worry he's gunning to be Shepard which would be bad on multiple levels. I would also not want him to play James Vega, because for me that sets the TV series in the wrong time period. Give us stories from the 20 years that precede Shepard coming onto the scene. They can do 10 seasons and not cover 20 years. We won't have the skies being darkened by the Reapers, but from the games' lore there is reason to believe Sovereign had been active in the galaxy at least since the Rachni wars. So, Sovereign at least can make appearances from time to time in a pre-Shepard TV series. There could be an entire season devoted to Saren becoming a pawn of Sovereign.
That would fall into the Acolyte genre, wherein the whole plot depends upon everyone being killed or turned into amnesia so that the Big Bad can be completely unknown by everyone once they arrive in Mass Effect 1.
I cant think of a single character he should or could be playing. The only acceptable one would be an entirely new character. If he plays Shepard i wont be watching. I likely wont be anyway cos it will be trash
@555NH Richard Jenkins....grandfather in a young David Anderson timeline, who also dies in act 1 scene 1 episode 1 season 1?
@@LuisManuelLealDias Sovereign featuring does not mean characters in the show knowing, or even seeing, Sovereign aside from those who are indoctrinated, and they do either die or are controlled by Sovereign to never reveal its existence or true nature. The Shepard saga should never be told on screen so I don't care about the audience learning the truth about Sovereign, but even that doesn't need to be explicit in the series.
There is a wealth of material from the universe, but this will miss the mark if they try to cast Shepard.
I respect that he claims to be a fan of sci-fi and that he professes love for the series, but he does not strike me as a true mass effect fan. The number of times he asks "you know what I mean?" Instead of actually saying something tangible does not help me build confidence in him. I really hope I'm wrong and that he delivers, but for now, I share all your reservations and remain "cautiously pessimistic", "you know what I mean?"
Sure hope they don't fuck this up
It needs to be a prequel without Shepard....Then at the end of the last show....Shepard steps in off screen
Same here lady...same here. At least he played a whole thing and seams understand what is about and that is crucial. If I be him I will not touch the Shep story. It's too risky as that story with all variations are very well known worldwide and request canonizing things...bad idea I will say. They should focus on time pre-ME1 on pre-mass relay discovery-activation-first contact and war, so we may see less aged Hacket, Anderson, Ashlys father, Alek Ryder, Illusive Man (that may be interesting), even later near series end Normandy SR1 under Anderson command. Shep may show up as a side role in Captain rank or so but sure not as main character. That be a vary good choice. The TV series needs to show the beginning and establish the Lore so people who don't know what Mass Effect is may understand. I think that be less painful even if TV series fails accomplishing the task.
Mas Effect universe is Star Track big and complex and not deserves less. Source material should be respected even if they want to try to pull this thing off. If they change it on direction of Marvel or so.....
I'm not sure current filmmaking industry with they policies can pull out this properly. This requiring GOT level of financing and same quality acting skills. This is what I'm thinking.
Good video, thanks Kala.
It is pretty doubtful that John Cena will be in Mass Effect, at least as a major role, He is spending the entire year of 2025 as a full time wrestler - as he announced his retirement.
Great to hear that he seems to be excited atleast
If you model the show after Firefly, but give it the polish and look of the current Star Trek show, you can't miss. Focus on the characters and their relationships, and have have the overarching story play out in the background.
It's best not to have high expectations. This way, one can't be too disappointed. A film or series should be about the story and characters, first not big names. That's how they can blow the budget fast.
Cena might have the height for a Krogan or Turian though...
I hope the main character is shepherd and his team and friends and lover since it’s about the threat of the reapers and all cuse if they gunna put a random main character idk if it will make sense while shapard is the main protagonist even a n7 soldier and hero of the galaxy
You know?
I would not mind seeing John Cena as James Vega
I heard Star Trek👀 IM IN🙋🏻🤣
you're so real for that
@@al33ksa Hehe, thanks!🥳
Are they going to do a prequel show of Mass Effect?
I still think they should have offered this project to someone with much more experience with science-fiction, especially the kind that got very good user and critics ratings and were a sucess, so this also applies to the producers, cause one of them worked on the Borderlands movie, which flopped insanely hard.
He can understand the difficulty of the assignment, plus it helps by playing the games themselves, but the question here is if he can actually deliver it while being faithful to the source material.
One lesson I learned about the creators being involved with movies based on their works, it usually insures it won't be a trainwreck but it doesn't guarantee it will be epically good either, Fallout was fortunate but that isn't a guarantee for Mass Effect.
Increasing success by lowering expectations....
John Cena could work as James Vega
Well, transparency here is a step in right direction, at the very least they do seem to understand what they are doing so we shall see.
I said this before, and im saying it again, i think we should give the guy a chance. Artists shouldnt be judged solely by their work in one genre. Fast and furious movies are a different genre and are made for a different audience. If they cast John Cena, i hope he gets to use tactical cloak.
Like your comment of basically an unknown cast, GoT had some big names and it also killed off the big names and made some stars of what was left, so let Cena play an Anderson type of role and bring some new young(er) talent into the Series.
I would prefer an expanse then star wars
yeah I said it else but intent is met with intent, and the interview does at least project he's going in with good faith at least. Like time will tell if it's good but maybe just maybe we'll not have another mass effect deception.
I hope the excellent Mass Effect books\audiobooks by Karypshyn himself were also read as they helped flesh out the ME Universe
- Mass Effect Revelation
- Mass Effect Ascension
- Mass Effect Retribution
He clearly gets it, and by putting ME in the same breath as Star Trek and Star Wars, he understands that he’s on sacred ground. Let’s just hope he has the courage of his convictions to stop studio interference.
the benefit of hindsight of course is that the writers can make it seem it was all planned out and less of a deus ex machina when it comes to the crucible, just hint at in in mass effect 1 and 2 just as "project star dust" as we know was the death star
When journalists announced the writer for this show, they really shouldn't have lead with the "Fast and the Furious" angle, lol. After hearing him speak on his vision for the show though, I'm less worried about it.
He gets it: if you can't nail the characters and make us care, then the show is already dead in the water.
Cena as Wrex, he has the physique for it
Yeah idk bout this one I'm heavily skeptical about how they are gonna approch this
True, but the fact they said they want to do it right says a great deal about how careful they want to be with the lore. That gives me hope. They need to play the games. They need to read the lore. Take your time. just make the wait worth it.
I hope they can get this done, take the time and spend the money on the writers that will make this as good as fallout.
There better be a Volus or Hanar played by Meer at some point
Mass Effect has many, MANY different story choices and events that are completely different from each other. No two playthroughs are the same. This could go either very well or fail spectacularly
i think story about human - turian war would be interesting
I gotta Bad feeling about this......
Yeah this one deserves some caution, one of the issues will be how to make the show feel like it belongs in the Mass Effect universe - it could easily descend into a generic action space shooter with bad CGI space battles and big John Cena flexing his muscles in a cut down space suit / muscle top slinging one-liners...
Anyway it is way to early to speculate, as it appears the show is still waiting on approval - could turn into anything from here - maybe a musical?
You know what I mean
I just can't see John Cena being in Mass Effect
they will have to change its ending up since we dont need It to have a divisive at best ending assuming it ever reaches that point also make it so the reapers have a better justfication or none at all(you cant say synthetics would wipe out life as the gek and quarians just proved that theory false in the good ending)just make it so the crucible docks harbinger attempts to stop this personally the fails then the "perfect ending" and since the writers have hindsight they can forshadow things better like shepards fixed body capable of surviving long periods in space(would explain how he survives with the destruct ending) also actually show or imply kind of that the illusive man was either indoctrinated sometime in mass effect 2 time or sovereign used him as a fail safe in mass effect 1 so by mass effect 2 the reapers have already been manipulating from the scenes
i hope they're doing the first contact war time period, i think that would be the most interesting without stepping on everyones choices in the games.
id have more confidence if it was made by HBO so long as they dont fumble it kind of in season 2 like house of the dragons(one of the writers did a runner which may explain why its different)
I could see John Cena as a Krogan tbh
Yes, that's what I was thinking as well.
Missed the chance to say "I could see John Cena playing Kasumi goto
Your mind >>>>
I’m on the fence but I want to give it a chance and have hope for it
I feel a bit better about the show now after that interview and knowing that the writer actually cares about Mass Effect and getting it right. Also, him acknowledging that "yeah I wrote for F&F, but I do other stuff" made me feel good because he knows that's not what we're looking for. Having the Fallout team work on it is great too. I just really hope they don't go with a big name cast. Get some not as well known actors who actually care about more than a paycheck. Put more money into the CGI and set pieces, not just the cast
the real decision would be the squad since 4 members seems like the max without having bland characters but the issue with that is liara, garrus wrex tali leaves ashely and kaiden so do we sacrifice their characters or something? unless they are confident all 6 could be there and it would still be complelling and the characters will still be good
I am indeed hesitant, nervous and feeling many other things. The mass effect universe is so huge. You know it’s not just one or two major species involved. How are they going to make is just as impactful as the games. How can they make a Shepherd so to speak and make it just as big. I’m very scared
I'm sold! He has the same passion and energy that other creators who successfully adapted videogames have: Jeff Fowler and Pat Casey with the Sonic the Hedgehog cinematic universe,
Aaron Horvath and Michael Jelenic with the Super Mario Bros Movie, and the many ones from projects like Detective Pikachu, Arcane, The Last of Us, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Angry Birds, Warcraft, even older ones like Final Fantasy Advent Children, the CGI Resident Evil movies and the original Street Fighter 2 animated movie.
You know what? Screw it! I want an adaptation of the original trilogy and I believe Cena can be a excellent Shepard like Mark Meer was!
Cena as shepard would start riots
John Cena should be Blasto, or voice a Volus or Elcor lol
I hope I don't have to say "I should go" because its being adopted by Fast & Furious 9 writer. Or the power of "family" may make it good.
Being fair, the "I've Got Family" thing was/is the legacy of the franchise. the writer of the 9th film cannot in anyway convince them to change that. he has to play it by their rules.
Can we count on some Avowed news or snippets? It's been quiet on the channel and game is releasing soon 👉👈
Go back 10 years and i would have been super excited but now im really dreading this show. I really hope they dont try to force big name actors in just for the sake of it. I hope they even use some of the voice actors as a primary element and at the ery least if they do retell Shepard they use the player most chosen pathways bioware has images of.
Also i hope if they do go the Shepard route the characters look like the characters and not just putting people in the roles for "big actor name clout"
if the dont go shepard route, first contact war is the best thing they can do, but i can see that being a very short series
I will reserve judgement but not totally convinced
I hope his "relatable" isn't too direct to what's happening today, too trendy. The character relations have to be timeless, that's why Mass Effect characters or why BG3 characters work so well - and their problems are timeless human problems. But he sounds like he's passionate about doing it right. I feel like he is making it to be his big thing.
Mass Effect trilogy director Casey Hudson’s studio is shutting down
Humanoid Origin is closing due to “an unexpected shortfall of funding”
I already made a video about it
12:50 Well I don't want to see Shepard at all. John Cena fits James Vega he has great sense of humor.
oh my god I'm so hyped, I'm so hyped, i'm so HYPED! It can be absolutely amazing. it also can be a disaster.... But i really hope for a masterpiece, PLEASE don't ruin the franchise I'm so in love with!
Amazon could do The Expanse which i consider the best space tv opera since the Babylon 5 ... Amazon could do Fallout ... Let it be the best from both, and not Rings of power bs.....please!!!
I don't like any of the "Fast & Furious" movies. There's that. And then there's too many "you know what I mean?"s. No dude, I absolutely do NOT know what you mean... I keep my fish in my crystal ball.
I look i comment for "you know what I mean?" :D
He should make the series about Marauder Shields 😂 that would be amazing
Don't adapt, TRANSLATE! They have everything they need to make this great, they don't need to make it their "own".
I'll see how this goes. It's okay to enjoy stories in multiple forms. At the end of the day, the Mass Effect games will still be there. An adaptation of them, or a story told in that universe, doesn't have to tarnish the specific games. If the show gets made and it's horrible, the Reapers will skip us this cycle. 😂
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Bro, John Cena would be a great alliance soldier/marine. Idk why he’s getting hate
Personally I'd think it'd be really awesome if they have around 4-5 seasons.
The 1st season is the first contact war. The humans would fully encounter the turians at the end of episode 2. Both the human characters and the audience would dislike the turians and that'd be cool going into the 2nd season.
The 2nd-4th season would be a retelling of the trilogy. The story wouldn't be exactly the same, but very similar.
And then there could be a spinoff 1 season show on retelling Andromeda. Small to heavy changes would occur with the story.
But honestly I'd be perfectly fine with just 1-2 seasons about the first contact war.
5:23 if you kill of wrex in the first game, he doesn’t show up in the later games - that is a no brainer obviously and proves he has just found some relevant talking points to demonstrate knowledge and understanding he doesn’t have.
Mark this comment for post release, this is another cash cow grab to finish off a last ditch money maker of a beloved but nearly dead franchise
The ME3 ending broke my heart so deeply that I have 0 expectations for anything that follows. Somehow, I still love the Mass Effect universe like crazy.
At least in this, the creators at seem like they have knowledge of the source material. (I hope they actually use that knowledge)
Wasn't it the Halo series where the writers said they never played and specifically stayed away from learning about it... And master cheeks actor also had no clue about any of it?
I will stay cautiously optimistic. I can't see John Cena as Shepard, but I would see him as Mocap Wrex
Good I hope they add Conrad Verner as a character 🤣
Where'd the dragon age video go, Kala?
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