Are they no local manufacturer of anti aircraft gun? Why not developed are own or have a coordinated development with Israel or any friendly nation to developed our own defense.
Sana ang mga armas na ito ay well train ang atin mga Sundalo sa Pag Amit nito, handang Humawak ng high tech, just in case ready at sanay na tayong humawak nito… sa Pag Laban ng sinumang mag invate our Country
Kaya Natin Gawin Yan madaming Pinoy aq nga gusto ko mag buo Ng mga ganyan Wala lang Ako idea pano makapasok sa ganyan pangalawa Hindi aq engr.. kaya ko mag convert at modify Ng mga remote control at nauunawaan ko pano gumagawa Ang mga advance system hahaha
Para sa akin, mas papaburin ko yung Rheinmetall Skyranger 30 HEL na hindi lang may Oerlikon KCA 30x173mm revolver autocannon (na siyang baril ng SAAB JA-37 Viggen [na pwede ding ikabit sa SAAB JAS-39E/F Gripen, kung nanaisin] at yung bala ng GAU-8A Avenger rotary autocannon ng A-10 Thunderbolt II/Warthog) pero meron din siyang kasamang 2-4 na MAN-Portable Air Defense - Surface-to-Air Missiles tulad ng FIM-92 Stinger at Mistral na siyang ginagamit ng Philippine Navy. Maliban dito, pwede ding siyang kabitan ng High-Energy Laser (HEL) na pwedeng ipalakas hanggang 100kW na kayang ipabagsak ang Rocket, Artillery Shell at Mortar bomb sa hinaharap. At lahat 'to kayang isakay sa likod ng Pandur 6x6 na siyang mas maliit na kapatid sa Pandur 8x8 na kukunin ng Philippine Army! Para sa akin, kung pwedeng ibalik at ikabit yung Air-Defense/Anti-Tank (ADATs) missile sa unit na 'to, hindi niya lang kayang ipabagsak na mga kalabang eroplano't helico!pter pero kundi na ring yung mga drones, Main Battle Tanks at pati maliliit na bangkang pandigma tulad ng mga missile boat ng mga intsik! Kung maari, sana yung Rheinmetall Skyranger 30 HEL na may mga 4 x ADATs missiles ang dapat kunin para kahit anumang banta sa ating Inang Bayan, kayang pawian!
@@PHMalaya Alam mo, kung kukunin nang buong AFP itong Skyranger 30 HEL at ang kasama niyang Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30 x 173mm revolver autocannon na 'to, mas mapapatipid tayo! Ikumpara mo kaya yung Aselsan ATOM Oerlikon 35×228mm kesa sa Skyranger Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30x173mm HEL. Ano sa tingin mo ang mas murang bala, ha? At isa pa: Yung Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30x173mm revolver autocannon ay pwede ding ikabit sa SAAB JAS-39E/F Gripen Multi-Role Fighter at sa TAI A-129 attack helicopter dito sa amin! So, sige, sabihin mo na hindi tayo makakatipid dito sa Skyranger Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30 x 173mm HEL turret!
The best option is KORKUT, they could be mount in M113 or in ACV 30 which both philippines have. We only need to buy the fire control system, the turret and the munition, we could also ask the FNSS for upgrades like they do in our ACV 30
If you gonna buy the Korkut Turret plus the EO sensor, Fire Control System only might as well as buy the whole thing! Here in our country Im not sure if there's people who have experience in fabricating TURRET RINGS, and everything associated to installing a Turret, Korkut electronics/sensors, APU installation. They may screw it up, so why take the chance?
The philippine airforce needs around 500 units of SPAAG to defend its more valuable assest . The philippine army needs the same number if we want them safe from being easy targets for drones . The PNP would need more SPAAG if we want them joining the fight . Preferably 500 units of K30-BIHO & 500 units KURKUT . Add some 1,000 units PELICA PSR-A VSHORAD as camp defense in urban areas .
@PHMalaya that's minimum if we want a good & strong defense . An archipelago & a weak NAVY & AIRFORCE would be fairly compensated temporarily by securing our AIRSPACE & HIGHEND MISSILE SYSTEMS from drones , helicopters, some planes & some missiles , & even anti infantry if needed, without braking the bank , a SPAAG Advantage . 😁 It's far better than that nonsense proposal from some gready politicians of yearly ROTC for 61,000,000,000 PESOSES 😁🤣
Kailangan din talaga ito sa last line defense at mga suicide drones sa mga navy at airforce bases..mga energy infrastructures dahil target ito ng mga ballistic, cruise missiles at mga suicide drones..halimbawa sa Ukraine war ngaun.
Nanaginip ata to haha Hindi Yan SA dami Ng assets nasa experience Yana aanhin mo Yung daming assets Kung Mismo tauhan mo Hindi eksperensyado wag maging b*b* 😂😂 halatadong binayaran to para manggulo lang😂😂
remember we just starts building our air defense it is not a overnight task, and government must allocate more fund to achieve a the aspiration to a Comprehensive Archipelagic Defense Concept (CADC)
We support you , Phil. Military plan.💪🇵🇭👍
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Good for Phil. Army mobility and transferrable platform for defense
this the consideration the transportability via atleast c-130
Pinaka-matalinong plano para sa bansang kulang ng air defense capability.. Pero ang tanong?? Kaylan magkakatotoo itong matagal nang panaginip??
this project is last i the line
The offers from the Rhinemetal of Germany is better to consider
for commonality we would go to Turkey
yan tama yan need talaga natin mga spaag at manpads din para sa mga foot soldiers
currently they are more into acquiring manpads
Are they no local manufacturer of anti aircraft gun? Why not developed are own or have a coordinated development with Israel or any friendly nation to developed our own defense.
we don't ha,ve hopefully under SRDP local development will push forward
Rigth phil. army, phil. airforce and phil. navy must secure that shortrange anti air.
yes as part of their layer defense approach
yan ang isa pang dpat na dinadagdag sa deffence natin
this should be include in horizon 3 but after revision re-hor 3 this requirement is last in line.
Sana ang mga armas na ito ay well train ang atin mga Sundalo sa Pag Amit nito, handang Humawak ng high tech, just in case ready at sanay na tayong humawak nito… sa Pag Laban ng sinumang mag invate our Country
training is part of the acquisition
Tama Yan! Kailangan advance na Tayo,d Yung nahuhuli lagi sa technology.
sadly this is last in the line
Kaya Natin Gawin Yan madaming Pinoy aq nga gusto ko mag buo Ng mga ganyan Wala lang Ako idea pano makapasok sa ganyan pangalawa Hindi aq engr.. kaya ko mag convert at modify Ng mga remote control at nauunawaan ko pano gumagawa Ang mga advance system hahaha
Para sa akin, mas papaburin ko yung Rheinmetall Skyranger 30 HEL na hindi lang may Oerlikon KCA 30x173mm revolver autocannon (na siyang baril ng SAAB JA-37 Viggen [na pwede ding ikabit sa SAAB JAS-39E/F Gripen, kung nanaisin] at yung bala ng GAU-8A Avenger rotary autocannon ng A-10 Thunderbolt II/Warthog) pero meron din siyang kasamang 2-4 na MAN-Portable Air Defense - Surface-to-Air Missiles tulad ng FIM-92 Stinger at Mistral na siyang ginagamit ng Philippine Navy. Maliban dito, pwede ding siyang kabitan ng High-Energy Laser (HEL) na pwedeng ipalakas hanggang 100kW na kayang ipabagsak ang Rocket, Artillery Shell at Mortar bomb sa hinaharap. At lahat 'to kayang isakay sa likod ng Pandur 6x6 na siyang mas maliit na kapatid sa Pandur 8x8 na kukunin ng Philippine Army! Para sa akin, kung pwedeng ibalik at ikabit yung Air-Defense/Anti-Tank (ADATs) missile sa unit na 'to, hindi niya lang kayang ipabagsak na mga kalabang eroplano't helico!pter pero kundi na ring yung mga drones, Main Battle Tanks at pati maliliit na bangkang pandigma tulad ng mga missile boat ng mga intsik! Kung maari, sana yung Rheinmetall Skyranger 30 HEL na may mga 4 x ADATs missiles ang dapat kunin para kahit anumang banta sa ating Inang Bayan, kayang pawian!
remember PH always prioritize the cost
@@PHMalaya Alam mo, kung kukunin nang buong AFP itong Skyranger 30 HEL at ang kasama niyang Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30 x 173mm revolver autocannon na 'to, mas mapapatipid tayo! Ikumpara mo kaya yung Aselsan ATOM Oerlikon 35×228mm kesa sa Skyranger Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30x173mm HEL. Ano sa tingin mo ang mas murang bala, ha? At isa pa: Yung Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30x173mm revolver autocannon ay pwede ding ikabit sa SAAB JAS-39E/F Gripen Multi-Role Fighter at sa TAI A-129 attack helicopter dito sa amin! So, sige, sabihin mo na hindi tayo makakatipid dito sa Skyranger Oerlikon KCA/KCE 30 x 173mm HEL turret!
The best option is KORKUT, they could be mount in M113 or in ACV 30 which both philippines have. We only need to buy the fire control system, the turret and the munition, we could also ask the FNSS for upgrades like they do in our ACV 30
If you gonna buy the Korkut Turret plus the EO sensor, Fire Control System only might as well as buy the whole thing!
Here in our country Im not sure if there's people who have experience in fabricating TURRET RINGS, and everything associated to installing a Turret, Korkut electronics/sensors, APU installation. They may screw it up, so why take the chance?
commonality wise with PN
Planning again😅!
they have lot of plan but short in money.
The philippine airforce needs around 500 units of SPAAG to defend its more valuable assest .
The philippine army needs the same number if we want them safe from being easy targets for drones .
The PNP would need more SPAAG if we want them joining the fight . Preferably 500 units of K30-BIHO & 500 units KURKUT . Add some 1,000 units PELICA PSR-A VSHORAD as camp defense in urban areas .
that's a lot for Philippines
@PHMalaya that's minimum if we want a good & strong defense . An archipelago & a weak NAVY & AIRFORCE would be fairly compensated temporarily by securing our AIRSPACE & HIGHEND MISSILE SYSTEMS from drones , helicopters, some planes & some missiles , & even anti infantry if needed, without braking the bank , a SPAAG Advantage . 😁
It's far better than that nonsense proposal from some gready politicians of yearly ROTC for 61,000,000,000 PESOSES 😁🤣
Kailangan din talaga ito sa last line defense at mga suicide drones sa mga navy at airforce bases..mga energy infrastructures dahil target ito ng mga ballistic, cruise missiles at mga suicide drones..halimbawa sa Ukraine war ngaun.
yes in a multi layer approach
should be a wheeled SPAAG
but they plan to utilize the existing M113 of PA
Maganda yung sa Turkey Gukdeniz kagaya sa CiWS ng Marvar class anti Drone at missile pa
for commonality this is the best option PH Army should pursue
Gun base sa air system in missile age rather investmenting in missiles system air defense kukuha Kyo ng gun base short range pa
you should remember that there is a layered defense approach you don't rely on sole defensive weapons.
Another plan nanaman.. tapos kulang sa pundo .😅
that's the problem
Poor report😅😅😅
we'll try to improve it next time ☺️
gamit na gamit parin SPAAG dahil sa threat ng drones
more cost effective than using missile in downing a drone
philippine air force is one of the world's weakest air force with 3 spyder air defense system batteries and few bofors 40 hahahaha
Bogobo 😂😂😂punan mo ng pambili ng nais mo mukang trilyonaryo k eh 😅😅😅 trilyonaryong Tsekwa 😅😅😅
Nanaginip ata to haha Hindi Yan SA dami Ng assets nasa experience Yana aanhin mo Yung daming assets Kung Mismo tauhan mo Hindi eksperensyado wag maging b*b* 😂😂 halatadong binayaran to para manggulo lang😂😂
remember we just starts building our air defense it is not a overnight task, and government must allocate more fund to achieve a the aspiration to a Comprehensive Archipelagic Defense Concept (CADC)
@@PHMalaya karamihan s mga komentador dito mga mafi muk at maka tsekwa 😎😎😎
ungas spotted!
Army anti-air?… Stinger missiles.
Stingers are too expensive versus drones. Expect drone swarm attacks. 😉
@@kuyapags3280 Ok, $200K a pop. Then the SPIKE missile for $5K each.
Drones for anti-air attack? Anti-air…
@@TheDaysOfGlory Guns versus drones = Cost effective
Missiles are generally far more expensive than caliber ammunition due to their complexity, development, guidance systems, and propulsion technologies.
Good luck Philippines army plan only sorry no budget nasa akap na 😂😂😂
PH is now becoming a AYUDA republic.
Bumili ng turret ng spaag tapos ilagay nlng sa mga apc ntin ang dami ntin nun..
better to have brandnew platform like sabrah chasis, problem here is that politically Turkey and Israel is not in good terms.