Not gonna lie, when I first saw this video a year ago or something thought it was fake. But now when I watch it again with with more drum knowledge I can tell it’s real. Fantastic playing! Super clean and nice
It might be real, but if you watch in slow motion the pedals are barely moving. So at the very least the velocities have been leveled out. I'm not too sure about some of the transitions between the 8ths and 16ths...
@@KnapfordMaster98 The sound is a mix of triggers and microphones. At 300 BPM (from 270 BPM on to be honest) the sound you hear is almost all triggers since to play that fast I was hitting the bass drum without much power. I have been working on that a lot during these years but two years ago I was relying a lot on the triggers to hit these tempos.
😀 engraçado...os pés se comportam da mesma manrira sempre! Geralmente quando tocamos notas mais rápidas, os pés tendem a ir para parte mais próximas ao calcanhar do pedal Pois é bem mais fácil e mais confortável para atingir notas rapidas.
Yeah man, I feel you! I used to struggle a lot to do those two bars of 16th notes. I've been practicing on endurance and on avoiding tensions a lot during this last year and now it's definitely better. I am still working on 280 BPM trying to reach 16 bars 16th notes at the moment, it's sooo difficult to me.🙂
@@decapitationmood8477 Wooow soo cool! I work as a session drummer if you are interested🙂 Sadly at the moment I play full time in 10 different bands (5 of them are playing live and working a lot on their music, while the others are side projects) and it would be really hard to find the time to follow another band full time☹️
Wow man that is some serious control! I was giggling each time the bpm went up after 240 because of how clean you can execute these speeds. Absolutely amazing. Didn’t think it was possible to reach speeds like this with the ankles.
Thank you very much! Try to apply pressure with the upper leg pushing down while keeping the ankle motion with the lower leg, that's really helpful to get faster than 240 bpm🙂
Thank you so much, I appreciate it a lot! My main aim with these videos is to motivate people because I strongly believe that with passion and hard work everything is possible.😁 Be patient and focused on your goals and you'll be able to reach them!
I seriously can’t tell you enough how AWESOME your foot technique is. Seriously, your feet are so fast it looks like your shoe can’t keep up and stands still! Do you use the palm of your foot or more of your toes? Hard to see. Thank you so much for your vids! 🤘🏼🤙🏼
Thank you very much! I use the ball of my foot to move my pedal and apply the pressure after 220/230 BPM. I noticed that if I rise the feet too much and use my toes, my lower leg muscles get tense and stop moving the beaters, so I prefer to stay a little bit lower and work with the balls of my feet🙂
I am so glad you find it inspiring! That's the best thing I could read about my videos! It will take some time, but with passion and practice you'll be able to reach this and every other goal you'll set for yourself!💪💪
Sounds over edited and hard triggered. If, like you wrote, this is a mix of natural and trigg, what mic are you using ? You don't muffle the kick ? A raw track would be cool, cause it can't sound as clean than this. But I'm curious, maybe you are truly gifted and can play like a robot. ✌️
It is triggered with no dynamic (so every hit is 127 velocity as used in extreme metal) and I worked on the audio mixing mic and triggers in order to make it clean and have a good quality video (at least that was my hope at first, I didn't expect so much hate). I use an AKG D112 and I don't have this raw audio anymore also because with this technique I noticed I rely a lot on the trigger and from 260 BPM on the sound was really muddy. Anyway I have videos on my personal Facebook made with my phone of swivel technique up to 310 BPM on a pad. They are 2 years old and quite sloppy but are also totally raw.
@@NormanCeriotti I'm not hating. I just want to be fully aware of what goals are accessible without any ""cheat"", as a drummer who try to perfect my double bass singles. I mean, you clearly can play 250, and this is hard af. But yeah, I think the "hate" from me people (66Samus) just come from the fact that you didn't explained the context. The fact that you rely on hard triggering and editing may be ok with people if you tell them that this is what you want. Really no hating, just curious. Keep working hard ✌️
@@TheDrumsFamily If you're interested, I've just uploaded a new video playing at 320 BPM on a pad with no trigger, no editing, no eq, no compression and with live metronome. I do 16th notes 9 stroke rolls and some triplets which at that tempo are as fast as 240 BPM 16th notes. At the end I play some 16th notes double strokes with hands aswell. Hope you enjoy it!🙂
Thank you very much! From 220/230 BPM on I start using pressure ankle motion which is basically ankle motion done with the calf muscles but with pressure applied with the upper leg.🙂
I've seen this guy playing live many times. He's a great player and a very humble person. For sure he doesn't deserve all this hate since he uploaded a video playing even faster with camera audio and no triggers. Stop believing to everything youtubers say, they need views to earn money and clickbait shit is the easiest way to do that.
That’s awesome man!! I am working on my ankle technique too and now i can play up to around 240 eight notes on my right leg... however, i feel some pain on my knee. Do you have some problem with that too??
Thank you very much! I experienced some pain in my knees and hips when I played with swivel because I was constantly overpracticing without resting and ended up injurying my leg muscles and hips. With the ankle technique I don't feel any pain to be honest, but I think that maybe if you sit too close to the bass drum and your knee has an angle lower than 90°, it can be stressed too much and you feel pain. Also it could depend from your sit height, too much tension in some muscles or wrong pedal settings. If you want to write me on Facebook or Instagram, we can talk about it more in detail, without seeing your sitting position or your playing it's hard to find out what's the problem.🙂
Thanks for the feedback! I will try to adjust some throne height, spring tension, seating position and see how that works. You are in the Drum Technique Academy Facebook group? I think I’ve seen you in that group lol. If it doesn’t work out then I can send you my vids 😊 Keep rocking 🤘🏻
Thank you very much! I am using the 2018 version of the Darwin.🙂 I use heavy beaters, around 60° beater angle and heavy springs not at max tension but quite tight.
@@NormanCeriotti Thank you very much for your quick reply. How do you manage to maintain your balance at this enormous speed? that is really very impressive 😊
@richardfreund6347 Thank you! I find tougher to have a good balance at mid tempo like 160 to 190 bpm or so honestly. For fast tempos I tend to push on the pedals to keep the beaters closer to the bass drum head and thanks to the spring tension I find the balance in the pedal itself.
To be honest shoes don't make a big difference to me, but personally the best shoes I've ever tried and am still using are Vratim. They are designed for drumming, which makes them so comfortable and durable! Back in the days my problem with shoes was the fact that once the pair I used to play broke, even buying the exact same model, it took me some weeks to get used to the new ones. It was so annoying. With Vratim each pair has exactly the same shape and weight, so I don't have to get used to the new pair anymore. Anyway, there are people killing it with boots and others playing insanely fast and powerful barefoot. In my opinion it's just a matter of practice and getting used to the shoes you usually play with, even if I'd suggest you to try Vratim and see, I love them!🙂
@@joshuafiumara996 He is a RUclipsr and decided to make money defaming a person who couldn't defend himself (since my channel was and still is thousands of times smaller than his one). Smart move, hope he enjoys his views and money.🤷♂️
I don't like it since the extra weight of shoes helps me working against the springs at some tempos, but there are guys that are amazing playing barefoot, so it is definitely possible to use this technique without shoes, you just need to be used to that.🙂
I miss my drum kit I lost it in a house fire when I was 15 10 years ago. I've never had one since. I didnt know how too use the double bass pedal properly but I had a blast while it lasted
Amazing work, friend. I too was having a hard time with swivel. I was feeling pain in my left knee and like you I decided to take the bass drum mastery course. I am close to finishing and have been happy with my progress. Was just wondering where to go when I finished. Would you mind sharing how you took these techniques and continued to improve? Were there any specific routines that you followed that helped you continue to grow? I have shown steady improvement but want to get to where you’re at. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you very much, I appreciate a lot!!! :) About my routine, I changed it a lot during these last months and I think it could be helpful to let you know the whole process up to this days so you can avoid a lot of mistakes I was making. :) At the end of 2018 I was playing swivel. I was able to reach good tempos already (280 bpm or so and I had some videos on Facebook up to sloppy 310 bpm on pads) but was really struggling to apply that technique to musical situations due to lack of control (I pushed for a year or so just on speed and endurance only). Plus I started having pain in my hips at the point I couldn't play more than few hits before stopping for pain. So, after seeing Marthyn and Kevin Paradis doing great with ankle motion, I started working on Bass Drum Mastery and found out I was using the wrong muscles for ankle motion and wrong technique for full leg. It was a long process and after the course I had clearer in mind how to work on those techniques. In that period, which was early 2019, I didn't have a job so all I was doing was playing all day long. It was something I had been doing since late 2017 and in 2019 I started playing even more because thought that the more I played the more I'd make progress. That was a really wrong idea, in fact playing 10/12 hours per day as I used to led me to have a big mess in my head. I didn't know how to proper do the motions and my muscles started to be very tired. Around May 2019 I had the worst period and wasn't even able to play at 100 bpm with full leg, my hip flexor were gone due to too much practice and no rest. So at that point I changed radically my routine and way of practice. I started getting into deliberate practice and started having a weekly routine in which I did some hands or feet technique on pads and some application on the set for around 3/4 hours of playing. This is how my routine looks like at the moment (it took me some months to accept the fact I had to play a lot less, at first I reduced my hours of practice from 10/12 to 6 per day and now I've been able to reduce them to 3/4 which is perfect for me at the moment): sunday feet control and independence. monday hands control and metal drumming, tuesday feet endurance and flow, wednesday hands endurance and timing, thursday feet speed and jazz drumming, friday hands speed and coordination and saturday rest. Alternating hands and feet practice days permits me to avoid muscles fatigue, that is a key point to me. About the exercises, for control I used to do different exercises. Now I have made a routine of exercises which is really effective in my opinion, at least for me. It's quite complex to write down, so if you are interested write me on Facebook in private and I'll be more than happy to explain that to you. For endurance I used to do 1 hour straight doing 16th notes starting from 85 bpm going up by 5 bpm every 2 minutes without stopping but it was too much and too many information to process to me, so I wasn't really making quick progress and was really confused about the motions. Now I do 30 minutes divided into the three main motions I use, so 10 minutes of full leg, 10 minutes of ankle motion and 10 minutes of pressure ankle motion with some rest between one session and the other. For speed I used to do 2 bars of 8th notes, 2 bars of 8th notes triplets, 2 bars of 16th notes without stopping for 2 minutes at every tempo I was working on. Now I am doing 2 minutes at every tempo I work on starting from 1 bar right foot, 1 bar left foot, 1 bar both until I reach 8 bars, 8 bars and 8 bars, without stopping and increasing the bars only when I feel the motion and timing are good. About the tempos to work on, I've heard from Kevin Paradis about this way to find the perfect tempos to work on. You have to be able to do 8 bars straight of 16th notes. The fastest tempo you can do it it's you maximum tempo, the 100%. From there you discover your 80% and you know that working from 80 to 100% you make progress in different aspects. For example I do endurance at 80% in order to work on the right motion and feeling, control at 90% and speed at 100, 105 and 110%. I've found out the max from each motion I use (full leg, ankle and pressure ankle) so I do each exercise three times, one for each motion. When I feel good with an exercise at a certain tempo, I increase it by 5 bpm and go on but that don't affect the other exercises (for example if I can control well ankle motion at 90%, I increase the tempo by 5 bpm from that time on but won't increase the tempo of endurance and speed unless I feel comfortable with one or the other, these three exercises are independent from each other because they focus on different aspects). Hope this will help you, feel free to write me in private on Facebook or any other social if you need some deeper explanations. :D :D
In my opinion the first step is learning the basic ankle technique. It took me more than a year back in the days and I am still working on that. Anyway the motion you need to do is generated by your calf muscles (not your shin muscles) and when you contract them, you have an hit, when you relax them, the beater goes back. At first I'd suggest you to start boucing the pedal one leg at a time, as boucing a basketball. Don't focus too much on having hits at first, just make it bounce. As you'll get used to it, start doing some hits one leg at a time and find out which is your starting tempo (usually around 160 to 210 BPM depending on people). Then try to do at least a couple of minutes each leg separately for some days at the confortable tempo in order to get used to that. It's a long process, once you'll be able to control the motion you can start to increase and decrease the tempo, with that motion you could start already at 140 BPM even if to me it feels good from from around 160/170 BPM on. Anyway it's a good control exercise to go down until 140 BPM. At around 220/230 BPM the motion changes a little bit. I start applying more pressure with the upper leg (the calf muscles have to stay relaxed in order to do the strokes and control the rebound) and for that reason I call it pressure ankle motion. Basically I push down and in front of me with my hip flexors and quadriceps while doing ankle motion with my lower leg. About the shoes I think it doesn't matter to much. I can play with crocks and every other kind of shoes. I have more problems playing barefoot or in socks but just because I am not used to that and shoes give me a little extra weight I got used to. About pedal and settings, I think it doesn't matter too much which pedal you are using. Top level pedals can help you and make it easier but it's not necessary in order to do the technique. My pedal is an ACD Unlimited Darwin with belt drive and the settings at the moment are medium-high heavy springs tension (in this video I was using medium-low tension on heavy springs), heavy beaters with additional weights, beaters all the way out and 55/60° beater angle. With pressure ankle motion the volume is really low (I am working on it but I am still struggling) so I need a trigger in order to make the hits clear and understandable. I am using On Trigger triggers and Roland TM2 module and the settings are these: Input: PADx2 Type: RT-30K Sens: 32 Threshold: 15 Curve: LOUD2 RetrgCancel: 9 XtlkCancel: 20% Hope you'll find these informations helpful!!🙂🙂
If you're interested, I've just uploaded a new video playing at 320 BPM with no trigger, no editing, no eq, no compression and with live metronome. I do 16th notes 9 stroke rolls and some triplets which at that tempo are as fast as 240 BPM 16th notes. At the end I play some 16th notes double strokes with hands aswell. Hope you enjoy it!🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Wow, thanks for the clear explanation! But I need to ask, why not use your shin muscles but calfs? I've been seeing drummers usually use their shin muscles for ankle motion, what do you think about it?
@@octopuy8467 Thank you very much!!Glad you've found it interesting!!😁 The reason is that shin muscles are weaker and harder to control than calf muscles. In fact, contracting them you work just on your upstrokes and not on your downstrokes. Calf muscles on the other hand are stronger and with their contractions you work on the downstrokes, so it's easier to have more power and to control better the actual hits. If you think about the fact that the springs assist you during the upstrokes taking back the pedal to the starting position, with this kind of ankle technique you have to worry just about the downstrokes, while the upstrokes will be totally effortless.🙂
Help me. How do you do it? Im trying this ankle technique and i cant get it to sync. I dont know how people do right-left-right-left so accurately. I am also losing balance somehow.
I push down the pedal contracting my calf muscles and then let the springs take it back to the starting position relaxing those muscles. You need to have the springs at least at medium spring tension in order to do it. About the balance, you need to find it on your throne and not on the floor. Try to sit on back on the throne, with your butt on the back edge of it. That will give you more balance. It's a very long process, it take me a while year to work on the pressure ankle motion for super fast tempos, but I have been playing with the normal ankle motion I described to you for 4 years already when I made this video, so be patient.🙂
Hi there, I'm finding it very tough to decide whether to purchase this pedal in a regular or longboard size. I'm curious as to whether foot size has anything to do with it or whether or not someone is naturally a heavy hitter. What are your thoughts? Please and thanks!
Hey!! I think it's just a matter of feeling and need. Longboards are more powerful and faster but harder to control while shortboards are easier to control but are less powerful and a little bit slower. Anyway it really depends from the settings and configuration you use.🙂 With ACD you are always in time to buy a conversion kit and try the other version too.
@@chrisgraham9194 With ACD Unlimited Darwin you can buy a conversion kit and shift from shortboard to longboard in no time. You can also buy a kit and change the drive system of the pedal from direct to belt in no time, the pedal has been projected in a really smart way.🙂
I have them at around 100 degrees angle and for faster stuff I push from my upper leg maintaining the lower leg relaxed in order to do the strokes. :) The strokes come from calf contraction and for faster stuff calf contraction and rebound control. :)
@@NormanCeriotti Thank you, makes sense man, is there any specific reason you dont put weight under 220 ? is it like mostly shin muscles before 220 then switch to calves?
@@YigitAcik It's always calf muscles but for tempos lower than 220 BPM or so, the motion from the calf is enough. Then I put weight and pressure on the pedal to keep the beater closer to the drum head and reach faster tempos.
I don’t understand how to do this and I’ve been playing drums since I was a child. My drum set is pretty damn beaten up but i feel like a big factor is my seat is way too low. I have to use full leg movements even to do 200 bpm. Somethings not right
Hey!🙂 From my experience, the throne should be high enough to have your hip joints always higher than your knee joints. That way you avoid extra tension in muscles, tendons and joints. Sitting very high can make moving the ankles, and so the ankle motion, easier. Sitting very low can make full leg motion easier because in that position you can't almost use your ankles at all. If you sit very high it's better to put the throne a little bit closer to the pedals, sitting very low it's better to put it a little less close. Personally I like my throne to be high enough to make the angle on the knee a little bigger than 90°, even when I rise my full leg. That's the most confortable position for me. About the techniques I use, until around 140 BPM I use a full leg motion going down with the heel to the ground at each hit, from around 150 BPM to around 190 BPM I use a mix of full leg motion and ankles, from around 200 BPM to around 230 BPM I use a classic ankle motion done with the calf muscles and from around 240 BPM on I use pressure ankle motion applying to the calf movements a constant pressure with my upper leg to make the strokes shorter and faster. If you want to work on ankle motion, consider that it is way different from full leg motion. Also the muscles are different, so working on full leg motion doesn't help the other technique. So if you want to work on it, the first step is to find a confortable tempo (between 150 and 210 BPM usually) and start making the beater bounce back and forth using your calf muscles, tension in the calf should be an hit, relaxiation makes the beater go back. Do that for some minutes each day, One leg at a time. When you are used to it, start working on the near tempos to control them. It's a really long process, so be patient and good luck!😁 If you need any help, write me in private on Facebook or Instagram.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti I really appreciate the lengthy response. This makes sense. My knees are higher than my hip joints. I always figured that was a problem. Unfortunately my cheap throne doesn’t go any higher. I guess it’s time to throw it in the trash and buy a new one. Thank you !
I just bought a Buttkicker and wanted to test out how double bass drums felt on it lol, but now I got a dumb question, I'm not a musician or anything, but is each tap equivalent of pressing the pedal once? or is it like, depending on how much you press on the pedal, it taps multiple times?
Ahahah😁 Yes, exactly, each tap is a stroke, even if for faster tempos at that time I used to rely a lot on the pressure I applied on the pedal and some strokes were just rebound control.🙂
Grazie mille, mi fa molto piacere! Devo ancora lavorare molto ad essere sincero, faccio fatica a suonare oltre i 260 BPM se ho pattern più complessi ed un brano da seguire, è un lavoro davvero lungo🙂
Grazie!!🙂 Ho passato diverse ore a fare take ed alla fine ho preso le migliori per ogni tempo. Successivamente ho lavorato sull'audio in modo da renderlo chiaro e pulito mixando microfoni e trigger (se ascolti bene sentirai i mic sotto che prendono la coda della cassa). È un po' lo standard di RUclips, soprattutto per quando riguarda il metal estremo, dove i suoni devono essere il più possibile puliti e definiti per rendere intellegibile ciò che si suona. Senza trigger e senza mix si sarebbe perso l'attacco dei colpi perché la cassa da 22" è troppo grande per riprodurre suoni definiti dai 220 BPM circa in su, è proprio fisica.🙂 Inoltre all'epoca stavo ancora sperimentando con la tecnica ed infatti dopo i 260 BPM circa contavo totalmente sul trigger per fare uscire il suono, come puoi vedere la distanza dei battenti dalla pelle sui 16esimi è davvero minima. In quest'ultimo anno ho lavorato parecchio sul migliorare questi aspetti e penso di aver fatto dei progressi.🙂
Sure! During that time I had medium spring tension, heavy beaters all the way out and 55/60 degrees beater angle. During the years I increased gradually the spring tension.
Hey! It took me 6 years to get past 150 BPM due to bad technique, bad habits and low self esteem. Then working 1 year on pressure swivel I reached short bursts at 310 BPM with a Pearl Eliminator, but injured my hips because of overpracticing and forcing the speed with a motion that wasn't perfect. After trying to still use swivel for one more year with bad results and pain, I started working on pressure ankle motion and this video was around 1 year later. I am still working on it and, even if I am way better now, tempos above 270 BPM are still tough. One thing is reaching those tempos and another thing is being relaxed and in control playing them, the first one takes few months/years while the second one is something that will improve over a lifetime, so I've just accepted it and things got way funnier and less frustrating after that.🙂
@NormanCeriotti I'm dealing with 141 bpm now and would like to reach at least 200 bpm... 230 -250 will be a plus. Is all about concentrate in the none dominant side.🤘🏻🥁🤘🏻
@@JoeyRam. That's great! There are two main ways of thinking about it, working only on the strong side and having the weak side that follows or working on both limbs. I prefer the second approach even if there are great drummers that prefers the first one. It depends from person to person.
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!!😄 It's water, I think drinking water while practicing is really important to avoid dehydration and keep mind and body in the best conditions to learn and improve.🙂
In this video it was medium-low but the springs are the ACD heavy springs which are in my opinion the heaviest on the market, at max the beater can't reach the drum head at all. Anyway in the following months I increased it gradually and now it is medium-high.🙂
Hey, Norman !!! All good ? Could you give me a tip? I'm trying to learn the ankle motion technic, and there's a thing that I can't understand... At high speeds (180bpm for me), I'm using only the ankle to "recharge" the pedal motion... At this point, my thigh are "static in the air" (like the highest position of the motion)... How am I supposed to keep my legs up without a base, once I'm no longer using the front part of my foot as a support ? Don't know if I was clear... Thanks!!!
Hey man! I am fine thanks, what about you?🙂 That's one of the hardest things to learn while practicing the ankle technique in my opinion. The main idea behind it is to find the balance on the throne. When you are playing with ankle motion, the legs are constantly rised and because of that you can't rely on them to keep the balance. Sit back on the throne, that will give you more support even if full leg motion will be more difficult since some muscles won't be able to work properly. It's not a big problem by the way, the slow and mid tempos are still playable but with a little less power, at least for me.🙂 It will take some time to find the right balance, so be patient! Learning new techniques is a long process but you'll be able to do it!🙂
@NormanCeriotti Old video but i want to give my thoughts for this.. First of all man you have great foot technique and your playing looks very relaxed on different tempos. But reading many comments where you are saying this isn't quantised and edited is just weird because it's obvious it is. I don't mean to give you hate but i would much rather watch this same video with real playing where probably would be some mistakes (nothing wrong with that), instead of video with all the hits put on the grid 100% afterwards. Editing audio is very common thing and i'm not saying that is wrong but as i said, it's just weird when you are denying that when it's obvious that your playing is not matching the audio we are hearing. Probably you would have impressed more people too if you had published this video with real playing, because your feet are moving that good that unedited audio would also be a pleasure to hear 🙏
Bro really osm footwork, but I have a doubt, can you play the same on a chain driven pedal. I have heard a lot that direct drive is faster than chain and I have also heard that it's the drummer and not the pedal. Moreover seeing so many drummers nail it even on chain driven pedals, I get this doubt very often. What are your thoughts on it bro?
Thank you very much! I think you can do it also on chain driven pedals, when I was playing with the Pearl Eliminator I was able to reach fast tempos with swivel.🙂 At the moment my pedals are belt driven, so more similar to chain driven than direct ones.🙂
The triggers make far more difference than the drive mechanism. Oh my kit with direct drive (no triggers) you would barely tickle the head with the sort of action and power here. At the higher speeds (which are ridiculously even and precise!) the beater is barely off the head and it's back again. I have my springs wound right up and it takes quite a kick to push against it. So I can't play this fast but I get a lot more motion when I do. I max out at around 220 with what I have. It's an old discussion point that you still have to hit it this fast with triggers to get the job done but without triggers this action would sound very quiet compared to a full swing of the beater. Send us a video of it though, I'm happy to be proven wrong.
@@typhoon-7 You are correct, after 220/240 bpm at max the bass drum can't produce a good sound anymore because the lowend will cover the attack and make the hits sound muddy and as a rumble. Maybe you can hear the hits without playing with the hands, but putting everything together the bass drum won't cut through.🙂
Can you implement that speed into a beat? Its impressive to be able to blast like that on just the kicks, but can you blast like that while playing the full kit? I've watched some of your other videos and they aren't anything like this, but they were mostly from beginning of the year and earlier. I'm not trying to call you out or anything, it's just what I heard in other videos was like, "hard rock" at its heaviest and this one video you're doing double bass like Marco something...? Was in Brain Drill. I know triggers are commonplace in metal and have been for a decade or more, but the sensitivity must be cuh-ranked all the way to 11. I've played for 17+ years and without triggers can play comfortably for about a set length around 190-220 BPM but it's not the cleanest (I like to have a few while I'm at the clubs.) Like I said, I've got nothing to gain or prove, but it definitely raises questions. I'm not saying it's fake, but I'd be interested to know more, to be honest. I've slowed this down through a couple of programs and at times it looks like the right beater specifically is barely leaving the head, if it does at all. It really makes me think the sensitivity on the triggers is at max and there is potentially some sort of editing manipulation to the video and audio. I'm not a professional, I have no followers/subscribers or anything. I've just been playing a long time, multiple instruments, but drums primarily, and this looks a bit....I'll say "fishy" and I'll leave it at that. I'm not on a witch hunt.
To be honest at the moment I am not able to put this into a beat. As I wrote in the video description, I am still working on way lower tempos, around 240/260 BPM and it Is taking me a lot of time in order to control them well in a musical situation. This is just an exercise I do to work on speed. About the other covers in here, they are all quite old and no one of them was faster than 220/230 BPM. Anyway there is a video from last year of swivel technique up to 280 BPM and on my personal Facebook there are some videos made with a phone of me playing on a bass drum pad from 260 to 310 BPM (one different video for each tempo) made two years ago. I was using a Pearl Eliminator with swivel technique and some of them were quite sloppy, that's why I didn't post them anywhere else. About the trigger and beater distance, you are very right, I noticed that after receiving some critics on this video. I ended up relying a lot on triggers from 260 BPM on and that's something I need to work on for sure.
@@NormanCeriotti I appreciate you getting back to me. Like I said, I wasn't looking for a "nailed ya" moment. I just figured if I had questions the only way to get answers is to ask, right? I'll admit, I've gotten a bit lost in this rabbit-hole lately of "fake musicians" and you were featured in someone's video. It's not anyone I follow, just a video that was suggested to me by RUclips. I tried to ask him some questions and raise some points, but they were quickly lost in the comment section. So, I thought I'd come to the source. Best of luck and keep it up. Music is an experience, not a competition, right?
@@jessegilbert9568 Thank you very much man, best of luck to you too! Yes, that video was a real shock to me, totally unexpected. I passed an heel of a week receiving tons of hate messages and finding out that some people I thought were my friends couldn't avoid to talk shit about me at my back. Luckily my bandmates, family and real friends helped me a lot supporting me and giving me the strenght to go on. It has been really tough for sure. I was also thinking about removing this video but at the end I thought that it was nonsense to hide myself. I didn't have any bad intention and, for better or worse, this period will be part of my music journey and for sure an event quite relevant that made me grow a lot as a person and as a musician.
Well, 270 BPM is amazing!! I think you could play 99% of extreme metal with that speed.😄 Never give up, you'll be able to acheve every goal you want with motivation and patience!!🙂
@@JasonPhantom That's amazing man!! Congratulations!!😄 Just keep in mind that the learning process isn't linear. I mean when we learn and improve our skills, we don't get better and better every day. Usually we do good during the first attempts, then, the following days, weeks or even months, we see our skills remaining at the same level or even getting worse. Going on practicing and staying motivated, you'll reach the point at which you'll be able to do that on daily basis and usually it comes out from nowhere, after a long period of struggle. So stay strong during the hard times, it just means you are on the right track in order to master what you are working on.🙂
Goddamn bro your hours of practice paid off. Just curious are you using drum triggers for that sound? It was incredibly consistent and no im not apart of the group of people who think drum triggers are "cheating"
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it! Yes, the sound you hear is a mix of microphones and triggers. From around 260/270 BPM on, the sound is almost only trigger since to hit those tempos two years ago I was playing really close to the bass drum head without much power.🙂
Thank you very much!! Nono, I am fine😁 I injured my legs muscles and hips because of overpracticing when I was playing with swivel. Since I played 10/12 hours everyday without resting, I started having a lot of pain in my hips and legs. Even walking was really hard during those days and after almost 3 years I still feel pain in my right hip if I try to do swivel🙂 On the other hand with the pressure ankle motion I've never had any problem
@@NormanCeriotti Yeah crazy control. I think I'd top out at approximately 220 or 230 max. That's awesome. It's been quite a while since I've played drums. Been in a few bands. My last band was in 2012.
Good morning! Honestly I've been working a lot on consistency and stamina lately, on tempos up to 290 BPM. 330 BPM is the max I've ever recorded on some sessions but it was just for short rolls, like 1 or 2 bars at max.🙂
Hi there Norman, I'm VERY VERY impressed with. your footwork. I'd like to try this on the cajon. Can I use showcase your video in my video? Basically, I'll be mentioning you, your channel, and that you're the inspiration for me to try it out on the cajon.
Fucking shit man, all these saying your double bass is fake just because Sammy says it's fake. Pro tip, research your source first because if this is fake, just so you know, Sam used to do A LOT of editing in his videos.
I know man, that was a true low blow from a channel which is like 1000 times bigger than mine. He wanted easy views and followed that stupid and nonsense trend of "fake musicians hunt". It's funny because that trend was so stupid that after a couple of weeks it was already gone but still I am receiving a lot of hate from people that most of the time don't even play drums or music at all. With this video I just wanted to have a good quality content that matches RUclips standards, for sure didn't have any bad intention and didn't expect all this hate. By the way I am uploading a new video playing 9 stroke roll at 320 bpm double bass on a pad, single strokes, no trigger, no eq, no compression, audio straight from my camera. Let's see if people will go on hating or will stop.
@@tmp5636 In the last months I played with Locus Animae, An Experience, Alkemy and Stormcrow, in the last years with many others🙂 Not sure where hulk saw me by the way, I played some gigs outside Italy aswell
I use a technique I like to call pressure ankle motion, basically I move the pedal with my calf muscles as in the regular ankle motion and add to this movement a constant pressure applied with my upper leg to keep the pedal closer to the drumhead and reach faster tempos.🙂
Thank you! I just worked on the audio in order to have a good quality video that matches RUclips standards, as 99% of drummers (especially in extreme metal stuff) do. Too bad this video came out in the month of "fake musicians hunt" and a bigger channel wanted to make easy views dragging me into that. Anyway that's how things go nowadays I suppose, so sad.
@@jaspergillgannon4991 If you're interested, I've just uploaded a new video playing at 320 BPM on a pad with no trigger, no editing, no eq, no compression and with live metronome. I do 16th notes 9 stroke rolls and some triplets which at that tempo are as fast as 240 BPM 16th notes. At the end I play some 16th notes double strokes with hands aswell. Hope you enjoy it!🙂
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Thank you for proving I can do 300 bpm in a drum machine! No irony here, pure fucking jealous!
I use pressure ankle motion, basically I move the pedals with quick contractions of my calf muscles, as in the regular ankle motion, and apply extra pressure pushing down the pedal constantly with the upper leg. This way I keep the beater closer to the bass drum head and can reach faster tempos.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti isso e um nível hiper avançado!!! Eu estou começando meus estudos de pedal duplo a duas semanas, mas meu músculo tibial não se acostumou ainda e está sendo muito difícil pois ele está doendo e ficando rígido e pois não estou conseguindo passar os 140 bpm.
@@benedrum2144 I tend to avoid as much as possible to use the tibialis muscles since they just rise the foot and are very weak. You can obtain the same effect without involving them if you increase a little bit the springs of the pedals to help the pedal board going back to the starting point without you having to rise the foot with the tibialis. Also at 140 BPM what works best for me is using full leg motion, so rising the whole leg with the hip flexors and stomping the pedal to have the hit. Ankle motion at that tempo has never worked for me sadly.
@@benedrum2144 You are very welcome! You can try and see if it feels better or not, not everyone is the same, so some techniques can work for someone but maybe not for someone else🙂
@@mp7982 I am not a RUclipsr, so I don't do live streams. Anyway, I am a drum teacher and I teach this on daily basis, so you could book a lesson if you want.🙂 I also work as a session drummer and have recorded songs and played live for more than 30 different bands during the last 3 years, some of the songs I recorded have sections in the 300 BPM range.🙂
@@JohnDoe-mb3xy Do you even know how the music industry works? The more ignorant the people are, the more they insult others and complain about everything 🤷♂️
Thank you very much! In that period I was working a lot on 260 BPM, so after that it was just pushing beyond my limits. I noticed that my beaters barely leave the drumhead at faster tempos and without a trigger it would have sounded really bad, so since that I've been working a lot. Now I can do 260 BPM for 16 bars and 280 BPM for 8 bars with my feet. Still working on having a better motion and increasing my endurance and control.😁
Thank you very much! I use pressure ankle motion as Kevin Paradis, Marthyn Jovanovic and Jan Benkwitz. Basically it is ankle motion done with the calf muscles with extra pressure applied pushing down with the upper leg in a constant way.🙂🙂
The perfect asmr
AHAHAH😁😁😁
@Arian Ahmad Oh cool, how does it work?
@Jeffery Tristan 😁
Norman Ceriotti this is perfect i thought this whole time i had to use swivel technique or heel toe to play this fast guess not lol
For you, but not fpr everyone. Bye.
Not gonna lie, when I first saw this video a year ago or something thought it was fake. But now when I watch it again with with more drum knowledge I can tell it’s real.
Fantastic playing! Super clean and nice
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!🙏
It might be real, but if you watch in slow motion the pedals are barely moving. So at the very least the velocities have been leveled out. I'm not too sure about some of the transitions between the 8ths and 16ths...
@@KnapfordMaster98 The sound is a mix of triggers and microphones. At 300 BPM (from 270 BPM on to be honest) the sound you hear is almost all triggers since to play that fast I was hitting the bass drum without much power. I have been working on that a lot during these years but two years ago I was relying a lot on the triggers to hit these tempos.
Tbh the movement are pretty fast and unreal
@@totallyoriginalname5653 To go fast the movents have to be fast😅
Your technique is so clean I could eat off it
Thank you so much! Good one!😂😂
😀 engraçado...os pés se comportam da mesma manrira sempre!
Geralmente quando tocamos notas mais rápidas, os pés tendem a ir para parte mais próximas ao calcanhar do pedal
Pois é bem mais fácil e mais confortável para atingir notas rapidas.
Dude I tried to play with you in one time on guitar, and I'm done
Yeah man, I feel you! I used to struggle a lot to do those two bars of 16th notes. I've been practicing on endurance and on avoiding tensions a lot during this last year and now it's definitely better. I am still working on 280 BPM trying to reach 16 bars 16th notes at the moment, it's sooo difficult to me.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti your playing is so sick
@@NormanCeriotti You need to join our band, cuz we use midi drums and it playing with the same speed😂😂😂
@@decapitationmood8477 Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!🙂
@@decapitationmood8477 Wooow soo cool! I work as a session drummer if you are interested🙂 Sadly at the moment I play full time in 10 different bands (5 of them are playing live and working a lot on their music, while the others are side projects) and it would be really hard to find the time to follow another band full time☹️
Wow man that is some serious control! I was giggling each time the bpm went up after 240 because of how clean you can execute these speeds. Absolutely amazing. Didn’t think it was possible to reach speeds like this with the ankles.
Thank you very much! Try to apply pressure with the upper leg pushing down while keeping the ankle motion with the lower leg, that's really helpful to get faster than 240 bpm🙂
Such sort of playing not only frustrates (!!) but also encourages my dream that someday I'll be able to play like you
Thank you so much, I appreciate it a lot! My main aim with these videos is to motivate people because I strongly believe that with passion and hard work everything is possible.😁 Be patient and focused on your goals and you'll be able to reach them!
I seriously can’t tell you enough how AWESOME your foot technique is. Seriously, your feet are so fast it looks like your shoe can’t keep up and stands still! Do you use the palm of your foot or more of your toes? Hard to see.
Thank you so much for your vids! 🤘🏼🤙🏼
Thank you very much! I use the ball of my foot to move my pedal and apply the pressure after 220/230 BPM. I noticed that if I rise the feet too much and use my toes, my lower leg muscles get tense and stop moving the beaters, so I prefer to stay a little bit lower and work with the balls of my feet🙂
@@NormanCeriotti love it!! Thanks for the vids 😁
@@pcbw75 Thank you for your support!🙂
@@NormanCeriotti always 😃
@@pcbw75 😁😁
2 years and like a whole 10 months have pass and damn. This made a casual 14 yrs wanna reach 300 bpm. Right now im at 240+ bpm gotta get the grind on
I am so glad you find it inspiring! That's the best thing I could read about my videos! It will take some time, but with passion and practice you'll be able to reach this and every other goal you'll set for yourself!💪💪
This is what hard work, and the patience of Job looks like.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
That’s awesome you figured out the science my brother-- playing a drum roll with your feet!!!!! Same as your hands!!!!! Awesome!!!!
Thank you very much! Double bass/double pedal is used a lot in metal music.🙂
Sounds over edited and hard triggered.
If, like you wrote, this is a mix of natural and trigg, what mic are you using ? You don't muffle the kick ?
A raw track would be cool, cause it can't sound as clean than this.
But I'm curious, maybe you are truly gifted and can play like a robot.
✌️
It is triggered with no dynamic (so every hit is 127 velocity as used in extreme metal) and I worked on the audio mixing mic and triggers in order to make it clean and have a good quality video (at least that was my hope at first, I didn't expect so much hate). I use an AKG D112 and I don't have this raw audio anymore also because with this technique I noticed I rely a lot on the trigger and from 260 BPM on the sound was really muddy. Anyway I have videos on my personal Facebook made with my phone of swivel technique up to 310 BPM on a pad. They are 2 years old and quite sloppy but are also totally raw.
@@NormanCeriotti I'm not hating. I just want to be fully aware of what goals are accessible without any ""cheat"", as a drummer who try to perfect my double bass singles. I mean, you clearly can play 250, and this is hard af. But yeah, I think the "hate" from me people (66Samus) just come from the fact that you didn't explained the context. The fact that you rely on hard triggering and editing may be ok with people if you tell them that this is what you want.
Really no hating, just curious.
Keep working hard ✌️
@@TheDrumsFamily Yeah, I see your point. Thank you, you too! I've watched your channel and it is great, keep up the hard work!
@@TheDrumsFamily If you're interested, I've just uploaded a new video playing at 320 BPM on a pad with no trigger, no editing, no eq, no compression and with live metronome. I do 16th notes 9 stroke rolls and some triplets which at that tempo are as fast as 240 BPM 16th notes. At the end I play some 16th notes double strokes with hands aswell. Hope you enjoy it!🙂
Norman Ceriotti dude just stop ur fake
mans went through 5 years of leg day, amazing work dude!
Thank you very much man!😁
a brother meets a brother from another mother
@@bazooka712 🤣🤣
big kudos my dude, been playing rock for years now. time to get a double pedal, thanks for the inspiration 🤘
Thank you so much!! I am so happy about that, if you'll need any help write me on Facebook or Instagram!!😁😁
play this at 2x and the result will be funny :D
Ahahahahah :D :D
jajaja nice man :v
😅😅😅😅 hilarious
leonardo bernardo oh it was
It sounds more like George Kollias
Dude how fast your foot is moving at 300 bpm is one of the coolest things I’ve seen on RUclips lol
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!🙏🙏
Kudos man. You have the single most credible video of clean 300 bpm single stroke rolls on youtube.
Thank you very much man, I appreciate it! Hope it could be helpful and motivating for others🙂🙂
Clean!
Thank you very much!
I want your Vans xD
😁😁 I think I bought them on Amazon some years ago👟👟
You are the son of the flash😊🎉
Omg.....how do u play that. Well that's skill dude.
Thank you very much! From 220/230 BPM on I start using pressure ankle motion which is basically ankle motion done with the calf muscles but with pressure applied with the upper leg.🙂
Man i watched this video so many times and i said are you human? every time while watching
Thank you man! I appreciate it! Sure, it's just a matter of practice and mindset😁
I've seen this guy playing live many times. He's a great player and a very humble person. For sure he doesn't deserve all this hate since he uploaded a video playing even faster with camera audio and no triggers. Stop believing to everything youtubers say, they need views to earn money and clickbait shit is the easiest way to do that.
Thank you, I appreciate it!🙂
You can tell it's real....tons if very hard work.
@@davidmathes6730 Thank you so much, I appreciate it a lot!!🙂
That’s awesome man!! I am working on my ankle technique too and now i can play up to around 240 eight notes on my right leg... however, i feel some pain on my knee. Do you have some problem with that too??
Thank you very much! I experienced some pain in my knees and hips when I played with swivel because I was constantly overpracticing without resting and ended up injurying my leg muscles and hips. With the ankle technique I don't feel any pain to be honest, but I think that maybe if you sit too close to the bass drum and your knee has an angle lower than 90°, it can be stressed too much and you feel pain. Also it could depend from your sit height, too much tension in some muscles or wrong pedal settings. If you want to write me on Facebook or Instagram, we can talk about it more in detail, without seeing your sitting position or your playing it's hard to find out what's the problem.🙂
Thanks for the feedback! I will try to adjust some throne height, spring tension, seating position and see how that works. You are in the Drum Technique Academy Facebook group? I think I’ve seen you in that group lol. If it doesn’t work out then I can send you my vids 😊 Keep rocking 🤘🏻
@@kridtinzep84 Great! Let me know if you need any help! Yes, I've been a student there since 2019🙂
great control in the feet.😊
what settings do you have on the Phantom?
Thank you very much! I am using the 2018 version of the Darwin.🙂 I use heavy beaters, around 60° beater angle and heavy springs not at max tension but quite tight.
@@NormanCeriotti Thank you very much for your quick reply.
How do you manage to maintain your balance at this enormous speed? that is really very impressive
😊
@richardfreund6347 Thank you! I find tougher to have a good balance at mid tempo like 160 to 190 bpm or so honestly. For fast tempos I tend to push on the pedals to keep the beaters closer to the bass drum head and thanks to the spring tension I find the balance in the pedal itself.
@@NormanCeriotti 150 - 190 bpm is so disgusting to play...
@richardfreund6347 Yeahhh, they are really tough especially with extreme pedal settings
Grandpa was so fascinated he started reminiscing 😂
😂😂😂
When the kick went Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I felt that
Thank you, I appreciate it 😂😂
How big of difference does the shoes make? I’ve seen a lot of people wear Vans, but I didn’t know for sure how big of a difference it would make.
To be honest shoes don't make a big difference to me, but personally the best shoes I've ever tried and am still using are Vratim. They are designed for drumming, which makes them so comfortable and durable! Back in the days my problem with shoes was the fact that once the pair I used to play broke, even buying the exact same model, it took me some weeks to get used to the new ones. It was so annoying. With Vratim each pair has exactly the same shape and weight, so I don't have to get used to the new pair anymore. Anyway, there are people killing it with boots and others playing insanely fast and powerful barefoot. In my opinion it's just a matter of practice and getting used to the shoes you usually play with, even if I'd suggest you to try Vratim and see, I love them!🙂
Kevin Paradis made a video about that. Different tests from 150 to 280bpm. He even wore heels lol
@@boringveil4783 Oh yeah, he did that and played AMAZING with every shoe he tried 😁
And so crisp and clean. Perfection. Great job.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!🙏🙏
This is.. suspiciously clean
Yes, I practiced for years and put effort in recording and making this video. Thankfully it's clean.😅
@@NormanCeriotti okay. A guy called 66samus said you were fake.
@@joshuafiumara996 He is a RUclipsr and decided to make money defaming a person who couldn't defend himself (since my channel was and still is thousands of times smaller than his one). Smart move, hope he enjoys his views and money.🤷♂️
@@NormanCeriotti i thought he was a nice guy. He thought it was too clean as well.
@@joshuafiumara996 A nice guy doesn't act as a bully or make fun of other people, but maybe it's just my idea of nice person, I don't know
How does it feels without shoes?
I don't like it since the extra weight of shoes helps me working against the springs at some tempos, but there are guys that are amazing playing barefoot, so it is definitely possible to use this technique without shoes, you just need to be used to that.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti thanks you
@@hombrerusode40anos72 You are very welcome!🙂
I miss my drum kit I lost it in a house fire when I was 15 10 years ago. I've never had one since. I didnt know how too use the double bass pedal properly but I had a blast while it lasted
Hey man! I am so sorry to hear that! I hope you'll be able to play drums again soon!
Holy fucking shit man.... that was impressive
Thank you very much man, I really appreciate it!🙂
Translation: The audience won't notice maybe if 240 or if you're doing 300.
Usually from around 250 BPM on or so, it gets really tough to hear the hits and they start to sound as a pitch instead🙂
Amazing work, friend. I too was having a hard time with swivel. I was feeling pain in my left knee and like you I decided to take the bass drum mastery course. I am close to finishing and have been happy with my progress. Was just wondering where to go when I finished. Would you mind sharing how you took these techniques and continued to improve? Were there any specific routines that you followed that helped you continue to grow? I have shown steady improvement but want to get to where you’re at. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you very much, I appreciate a lot!!! :) About my routine, I changed it a lot during these last months and I think it could be helpful to let you know the whole process up to this days so you can avoid a lot of mistakes I was making. :) At the end of 2018 I was playing swivel. I was able to reach good tempos already (280 bpm or so and I had some videos on Facebook up to sloppy 310 bpm on pads) but was really struggling to apply that technique to musical situations due to lack of control (I pushed for a year or so just on speed and endurance only). Plus I started having pain in my hips at the point I couldn't play more than few hits before stopping for pain. So, after seeing Marthyn and Kevin Paradis doing great with ankle motion, I started working on Bass Drum Mastery and found out I was using the wrong muscles for ankle motion and wrong technique for full leg. It was a long process and after the course I had clearer in mind how to work on those techniques. In that period, which was early 2019, I didn't have a job so all I was doing was playing all day long. It was something I had been doing since late 2017 and in 2019 I started playing even more because thought that the more I played the more I'd make progress. That was a really wrong idea, in fact playing 10/12 hours per day as I used to led me to have a big mess in my head. I didn't know how to proper do the motions and my muscles started to be very tired. Around May 2019 I had the worst period and wasn't even able to play at 100 bpm with full leg, my hip flexor were gone due to too much practice and no rest. So at that point I changed radically my routine and way of practice. I started getting into deliberate practice and started having a weekly routine in which I did some hands or feet technique on pads and some application on the set for around 3/4 hours of playing. This is how my routine looks like at the moment (it took me some months to accept the fact I had to play a lot less, at first I reduced my hours of practice from 10/12 to 6 per day and now I've been able to reduce them to 3/4 which is perfect for me at the moment): sunday feet control and independence. monday hands control and metal drumming, tuesday feet endurance and flow, wednesday hands endurance and timing, thursday feet speed and jazz drumming, friday hands speed and coordination and saturday rest. Alternating hands and feet practice days permits me to avoid muscles fatigue, that is a key point to me. About the exercises, for control I used to do different exercises. Now I have made a routine of exercises which is really effective in my opinion, at least for me. It's quite complex to write down, so if you are interested write me on Facebook in private and I'll be more than happy to explain that to you. For endurance I used to do 1 hour straight doing 16th notes starting from 85 bpm going up by 5 bpm every 2 minutes without stopping but it was too much and too many information to process to me, so I wasn't really making quick progress and was really confused about the motions. Now I do 30 minutes divided into the three main motions I use, so 10 minutes of full leg, 10 minutes of ankle motion and 10 minutes of pressure ankle motion with some rest between one session and the other. For speed I used to do 2 bars of 8th notes, 2 bars of 8th notes triplets, 2 bars of 16th notes without stopping for 2 minutes at every tempo I was working on. Now I am doing 2 minutes at every tempo I work on starting from 1 bar right foot, 1 bar left foot, 1 bar both until I reach 8 bars, 8 bars and 8 bars, without stopping and increasing the bars only when I feel the motion and timing are good. About the tempos to work on, I've heard from Kevin Paradis about this way to find the perfect tempos to work on. You have to be able to do 8 bars straight of 16th notes. The fastest tempo you can do it it's you maximum tempo, the 100%. From there you discover your 80% and you know that working from 80 to 100% you make progress in different aspects. For example I do endurance at 80% in order to work on the right motion and feeling, control at 90% and speed at 100, 105 and 110%. I've found out the max from each motion I use (full leg, ankle and pressure ankle) so I do each exercise three times, one for each motion. When I feel good with an exercise at a certain tempo, I increase it by 5 bpm and go on but that don't affect the other exercises (for example if I can control well ankle motion at 90%, I increase the tempo by 5 bpm from that time on but won't increase the tempo of endurance and speed unless I feel comfortable with one or the other, these three exercises are independent from each other because they focus on different aspects). Hope this will help you, feel free to write me in private on Facebook or any other social if you need some deeper explanations. :D :D
How do I learn this?
Shoes?
Leg/Foot Technique?
Pedals?
etc.
In my opinion the first step is learning the basic ankle technique. It took me more than a year back in the days and I am still working on that. Anyway the motion you need to do is generated by your calf muscles (not your shin muscles) and when you contract them, you have an hit, when you relax them, the beater goes back. At first I'd suggest you to start boucing the pedal one leg at a time, as boucing a basketball. Don't focus too much on having hits at first, just make it bounce. As you'll get used to it, start doing some hits one leg at a time and find out which is your starting tempo (usually around 160 to 210 BPM depending on people). Then try to do at least a couple of minutes each leg separately for some days at the confortable tempo in order to get used to that. It's a long process, once you'll be able to control the motion you can start to increase and decrease the tempo, with that motion you could start already at 140 BPM even if to me it feels good from from around 160/170 BPM on. Anyway it's a good control exercise to go down until 140 BPM.
At around 220/230 BPM the motion changes a little bit. I start applying more pressure with the upper leg (the calf muscles have to stay relaxed in order to do the strokes and control the rebound) and for that reason I call it pressure ankle motion. Basically I push down and in front of me with my hip flexors and quadriceps while doing ankle motion with my lower leg.
About the shoes I think it doesn't matter to much. I can play with crocks and every other kind of shoes. I have more problems playing barefoot or in socks but just because I am not used to that and shoes give me a little extra weight I got used to.
About pedal and settings, I think it doesn't matter too much which pedal you are using. Top level pedals can help you and make it easier but it's not necessary in order to do the technique. My pedal is an ACD Unlimited Darwin with belt drive and the settings at the moment are medium-high heavy springs tension (in this video I was using medium-low tension on heavy springs), heavy beaters with additional weights, beaters all the way out and 55/60° beater angle.
With pressure ankle motion the volume is really low (I am working on it but I am still struggling) so I need a trigger in order to make the hits clear and understandable. I am using On Trigger triggers and Roland TM2 module and the settings are these:
Input: PADx2
Type: RT-30K
Sens: 32
Threshold: 15
Curve: LOUD2
RetrgCancel: 9
XtlkCancel: 20%
Hope you'll find these informations helpful!!🙂🙂
If you're interested, I've just uploaded a new video playing at 320 BPM with no trigger, no editing, no eq, no compression and with live metronome. I do 16th notes 9 stroke rolls and some triplets which at that tempo are as fast as 240 BPM 16th notes. At the end I play some 16th notes double strokes with hands aswell. Hope you enjoy it!🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Wow, thanks for the clear explanation!
But I need to ask, why not use your shin muscles but calfs? I've been seeing drummers usually use their shin muscles for ankle motion, what do you think about it?
@@octopuy8467 Thank you very much!!Glad you've found it interesting!!😁 The reason is that shin muscles are weaker and harder to control than calf muscles. In fact, contracting them you work just on your upstrokes and not on your downstrokes. Calf muscles on the other hand are stronger and with their contractions you work on the downstrokes, so it's easier to have more power and to control better the actual hits. If you think about the fact that the springs assist you during the upstrokes taking back the pedal to the starting position, with this kind of ankle technique you have to worry just about the downstrokes, while the upstrokes will be totally effortless.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Oh, I see. Thank you for the reply!
Help me. How do you do it? Im trying this ankle technique and i cant get it to sync. I dont know how people do right-left-right-left so accurately. I am also losing balance somehow.
I push down the pedal contracting my calf muscles and then let the springs take it back to the starting position relaxing those muscles. You need to have the springs at least at medium spring tension in order to do it. About the balance, you need to find it on your throne and not on the floor. Try to sit on back on the throne, with your butt on the back edge of it. That will give you more balance. It's a very long process, it take me a while year to work on the pressure ankle motion for super fast tempos, but I have been playing with the normal ankle motion I described to you for 4 years already when I made this video, so be patient.🙂
So satisfying
Thank you very much!🙏
1k pedals+good ankles= 🤯
Thank you so much man!🙂
Hi there, I'm finding it very tough to decide whether to purchase this pedal in a regular or longboard size.
I'm curious as to whether foot size has anything to do with it or whether or not someone is naturally a heavy hitter. What are your thoughts? Please and thanks!
Hey!! I think it's just a matter of feeling and need. Longboards are more powerful and faster but harder to control while shortboards are easier to control but are less powerful and a little bit slower. Anyway it really depends from the settings and configuration you use.🙂 With ACD you are always in time to buy a conversion kit and try the other version too.
@@NormanCeriotti You can actually alter your short pedals into longboard pedals with an additional purchase of a conversion kit?
@@chrisgraham9194 With ACD Unlimited Darwin you can buy a conversion kit and shift from shortboard to longboard in no time. You can also buy a kit and change the drive system of the pedal from direct to belt in no time, the pedal has been projected in a really smart way.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Thank you so much for your input.
@@chrisgraham9194 You are very welcome!
how do you hold those legs bro
I have them at around 100 degrees angle and for faster stuff I push from my upper leg maintaining the lower leg relaxed in order to do the strokes. :) The strokes come from calf contraction and for faster stuff calf contraction and rebound control. :)
🤘🤘🤘 Supreme
@@edoardomarinangeli689 Grazie!!
Does your ankles floating or they are sitting on the pedal with all leg weight? pretty cool technique!
Thank you! They float until 220/230 BPM, the I gradually put more and more weight on the pedal as the tempo increases.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Thank you, makes sense man, is there any specific reason you dont put weight under 220 ? is it like mostly shin muscles before 220 then switch to calves?
@@YigitAcik It's always calf muscles but for tempos lower than 220 BPM or so, the motion from the calf is enough. Then I put weight and pressure on the pedal to keep the beater closer to the drum head and reach faster tempos.
@@NormanCeriotti got it appreciate it man keep them coming!
@@YigitAcik You are very welcome! Thank you!
I need to practice. Cheers
Have a great practice man!🤘🤘😁
sick !!
Thank you so much!!
I don’t understand how to do this and I’ve been playing drums since I was a child. My drum set is pretty damn beaten up but i feel like a big factor is my seat is way too low. I have to use full leg movements even to do 200 bpm. Somethings not right
Hey!🙂 From my experience, the throne should be high enough to have your hip joints always higher than your knee joints. That way you avoid extra tension in muscles, tendons and joints. Sitting very high can make moving the ankles, and so the ankle motion, easier. Sitting very low can make full leg motion easier because in that position you can't almost use your ankles at all. If you sit very high it's better to put the throne a little bit closer to the pedals, sitting very low it's better to put it a little less close. Personally I like my throne to be high enough to make the angle on the knee a little bigger than 90°, even when I rise my full leg. That's the most confortable position for me. About the techniques I use, until around 140 BPM I use a full leg motion going down with the heel to the ground at each hit, from around 150 BPM to around 190 BPM I use a mix of full leg motion and ankles, from around 200 BPM to around 230 BPM I use a classic ankle motion done with the calf muscles and from around 240 BPM on I use pressure ankle motion applying to the calf movements a constant pressure with my upper leg to make the strokes shorter and faster. If you want to work on ankle motion, consider that it is way different from full leg motion. Also the muscles are different, so working on full leg motion doesn't help the other technique. So if you want to work on it, the first step is to find a confortable tempo (between 150 and 210 BPM usually) and start making the beater bounce back and forth using your calf muscles, tension in the calf should be an hit, relaxiation makes the beater go back. Do that for some minutes each day, One leg at a time. When you are used to it, start working on the near tempos to control them. It's a really long process, so be patient and good luck!😁 If you need any help, write me in private on Facebook or Instagram.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti I really appreciate the lengthy response. This makes sense. My knees are higher than my hip joints. I always figured that was a problem. Unfortunately my cheap throne doesn’t go any higher. I guess it’s time to throw it in the trash and buy a new one. Thank you !
@@idkid78 You are very welcome! Let me know how it goes!🙂
You are NOT human
Thank you! You are too kind!🙏🙏
I just bought a Buttkicker and wanted to test out how double bass drums felt on it lol, but now I got a dumb question, I'm not a musician or anything, but is each tap equivalent of pressing the pedal once? or is it like, depending on how much you press on the pedal, it taps multiple times?
Ahahah😁 Yes, exactly, each tap is a stroke, even if for faster tempos at that time I used to rely a lot on the pressure I applied on the pedal and some strokes were just rebound control.🙂
Great! What kind of pedal do you use?
Thank you very much! It's an ACD Unlimited Darwin with belt drive🙂
Amazing
Thank you so much!🙏
Bravissimo, davvero. Pulitissimo e nessun colpo fuori posto, questo è il risultato di tanto allenamento 😊🤘
Grazie mille, mi fa molto piacere! Devo ancora lavorare molto ad essere sincero, faccio fatica a suonare oltre i 260 BPM se ho pattern più complessi ed un brano da seguire, è un lavoro davvero lungo🙂
@@NormanCeriotti l'importante è essere costanti!
@@thetonycataneo8411 Hai assolutamente ragione! Grazie mille per il sostegno!😁
@@NormanCeriotti di nulla!
@@thetonycataneo8411 😁😁
ormai questo video lo conoscevo già, cmq sei vermanete bravo! mi riesce quasi difficile credere che sia vero perchè i colpi sono precissimi!
Grazie!!🙂 Ho passato diverse ore a fare take ed alla fine ho preso le migliori per ogni tempo. Successivamente ho lavorato sull'audio in modo da renderlo chiaro e pulito mixando microfoni e trigger (se ascolti bene sentirai i mic sotto che prendono la coda della cassa). È un po' lo standard di RUclips, soprattutto per quando riguarda il metal estremo, dove i suoni devono essere il più possibile puliti e definiti per rendere intellegibile ciò che si suona. Senza trigger e senza mix si sarebbe perso l'attacco dei colpi perché la cassa da 22" è troppo grande per riprodurre suoni definiti dai 220 BPM circa in su, è proprio fisica.🙂 Inoltre all'epoca stavo ancora sperimentando con la tecnica ed infatti dopo i 260 BPM circa contavo totalmente sul trigger per fare uscire il suono, come puoi vedere la distanza dei battenti dalla pelle sui 16esimi è davvero minima. In quest'ultimo anno ho lavorato parecchio sul migliorare questi aspetti e penso di aver fatto dei progressi.🙂
“Paganini was told to have a pact with the Devil to play so fast, now they just call it fake”
@@dirtyhappiness 🙏🙏🙏
@@NormanCeriotti 🔥
If your double bass sounds like hitlers mg42 buzzsaw you are doing it right!
Thank you very much man!😁
May I know your pedal settings?
Sure! During that time I had medium spring tension, heavy beaters all the way out and 55/60 degrees beater angle. During the years I increased gradually the spring tension.
my anxiety does it for me
OH NOOOO☹️
@@NormanCeriotti lmao
@@vinttx8239 😁
Wow! Just wow 😮
Thank you very much!😁
Hey man, how long it took you to get there...say, starting from 150 bpm to 300 bpm?
Hey! It took me 6 years to get past 150 BPM due to bad technique, bad habits and low self esteem. Then working 1 year on pressure swivel I reached short bursts at 310 BPM with a Pearl Eliminator, but injured my hips because of overpracticing and forcing the speed with a motion that wasn't perfect. After trying to still use swivel for one more year with bad results and pain, I started working on pressure ankle motion and this video was around 1 year later. I am still working on it and, even if I am way better now, tempos above 270 BPM are still tough. One thing is reaching those tempos and another thing is being relaxed and in control playing them, the first one takes few months/years while the second one is something that will improve over a lifetime, so I've just accepted it and things got way funnier and less frustrating after that.🙂
@NormanCeriotti I'm dealing with 141 bpm now and would like to reach at least 200 bpm... 230 -250 will be a plus. Is all about concentrate in the none dominant side.🤘🏻🥁🤘🏻
@@JoeyRam. That's great! There are two main ways of thinking about it, working only on the strong side and having the weak side that follows or working on both limbs. I prefer the second approach even if there are great drummers that prefers the first one. It depends from person to person.
Norman, what's in the bottle near your feet on the video... Great job !
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!!😄 It's water, I think drinking water while practicing is really important to avoid dehydration and keep mind and body in the best conditions to learn and improve.🙂
Is the spring tension at maximum? I believe that its imposible to play at 300 bpm using medium spring tension and using ankle motion
In this video it was medium-low but the springs are the ACD heavy springs which are in my opinion the heaviest on the market, at max the beater can't reach the drum head at all. Anyway in the following months I increased it gradually and now it is medium-high.🙂
@@NormanCeriottii, sorry for not greet and farewell you before, thank you for your answer! Bye.
@@pequeno1114 No problem at all! Have a nice day!
Hey, Norman !!! All good ?
Could you give me a tip?
I'm trying to learn the ankle motion technic, and there's a thing that I can't understand...
At high speeds (180bpm for me), I'm using only the ankle to "recharge" the pedal motion... At this point, my thigh are "static in the air" (like the highest position of the motion)... How am I supposed to keep my legs up without a base, once I'm no longer using the front part of my foot as a support ?
Don't know if I was clear...
Thanks!!!
Hey man! I am fine thanks, what about you?🙂 That's one of the hardest things to learn while practicing the ankle technique in my opinion. The main idea behind it is to find the balance on the throne. When you are playing with ankle motion, the legs are constantly rised and because of that you can't rely on them to keep the balance. Sit back on the throne, that will give you more support even if full leg motion will be more difficult since some muscles won't be able to work properly. It's not a big problem by the way, the slow and mid tempos are still playable but with a little less power, at least for me.🙂 It will take some time to find the right balance, so be patient! Learning new techniques is a long process but you'll be able to do it!🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Thanks a LOT for the answer, Norman !!!
I'll focus my trainings on that. Btw... Congratulations for the videos !
@@rafaeliwata7924 You are very welcome! Let me know if you'll need any help! Thank you so much, I appreciate it!🙏
Perfect bro 🤘🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thank you very much brotherrr🤘
@NormanCeriotti Old video but i want to give my thoughts for this.. First of all man you have great foot technique and your playing looks very relaxed on different tempos. But reading many comments where you are saying this isn't quantised and edited is just weird because it's obvious it is. I don't mean to give you hate but i would much rather watch this same video with real playing where probably would be some mistakes (nothing wrong with that), instead of video with all the hits put on the grid 100% afterwards.
Editing audio is very common thing and i'm not saying that is wrong but as i said, it's just weird when you are denying that when it's obvious that your playing is not matching the audio we are hearing. Probably you would have impressed more people too if you had published this video with real playing, because your feet are moving that good that unedited audio would also be a pleasure to hear 🙏
Bro really osm footwork, but I have a doubt, can you play the same on a chain driven pedal. I have heard a lot that direct drive is faster than chain and I have also heard that it's the drummer and not the pedal. Moreover seeing so many drummers nail it even on chain driven pedals, I get this doubt very often. What are your thoughts on it bro?
Thank you very much! I think you can do it also on chain driven pedals, when I was playing with the Pearl Eliminator I was able to reach fast tempos with swivel.🙂 At the moment my pedals are belt driven, so more similar to chain driven than direct ones.🙂
The triggers make far more difference than the drive mechanism. Oh my kit with direct drive (no triggers) you would barely tickle the head with the sort of action and power here. At the higher speeds (which are ridiculously even and precise!) the beater is barely off the head and it's back again. I have my springs wound right up and it takes quite a kick to push against it. So I can't play this fast but I get a lot more motion when I do. I max out at around 220 with what I have.
It's an old discussion point that you still have to hit it this fast with triggers to get the job done but without triggers this action would sound very quiet compared to a full swing of the beater. Send us a video of it though, I'm happy to be proven wrong.
@@typhoon-7 You are correct, after 220/240 bpm at max the bass drum can't produce a good sound anymore because the lowend will cover the attack and make the hits sound muddy and as a rumble. Maybe you can hear the hits without playing with the hands, but putting everything together the bass drum won't cut through.🙂
Nice video
Thank you very much!🙂
Is it possible to learn this power?
Ahahahah of course!🙂🙂 It just takes some time and practice, I am still learning it.🙂
not from a jedy
@@cris_horizons Good one!!😄😄
If merami played osu with his feet
😁
Who makes that pedal?
ACD Unlimited 🙂
What pedals are they?
They are ACD Unlimited Darwin😁
Ah, the hummingbird technique.
😁😁
Can you implement that speed into a beat? Its impressive to be able to blast like that on just the kicks, but can you blast like that while playing the full kit? I've watched some of your other videos and they aren't anything like this, but they were mostly from beginning of the year and earlier. I'm not trying to call you out or anything, it's just what I heard in other videos was like, "hard rock" at its heaviest and this one video you're doing double bass like Marco something...? Was in Brain Drill. I know triggers are commonplace in metal and have been for a decade or more, but the sensitivity must be cuh-ranked all the way to 11. I've played for 17+ years and without triggers can play comfortably for about a set length around 190-220 BPM but it's not the cleanest (I like to have a few while I'm at the clubs.)
Like I said, I've got nothing to gain or prove, but it definitely raises questions. I'm not saying it's fake, but I'd be interested to know more, to be honest.
I've slowed this down through a couple of programs and at times it looks like the right beater specifically is barely leaving the head, if it does at all. It really makes me think the sensitivity on the triggers is at max and there is potentially some sort of editing manipulation to the video and audio. I'm not a professional, I have no followers/subscribers or anything. I've just been playing a long time, multiple instruments, but drums primarily, and this looks a bit....I'll say "fishy" and I'll leave it at that. I'm not on a witch hunt.
To be honest at the moment I am not able to put this into a beat. As I wrote in the video description, I am still working on way lower tempos, around 240/260 BPM and it Is taking me a lot of time in order to control them well in a musical situation. This is just an exercise I do to work on speed. About the other covers in here, they are all quite old and no one of them was faster than 220/230 BPM. Anyway there is a video from last year of swivel technique up to 280 BPM and on my personal Facebook there are some videos made with a phone of me playing on a bass drum pad from 260 to 310 BPM (one different video for each tempo) made two years ago. I was using a Pearl Eliminator with swivel technique and some of them were quite sloppy, that's why I didn't post them anywhere else. About the trigger and beater distance, you are very right, I noticed that after receiving some critics on this video. I ended up relying a lot on triggers from 260 BPM on and that's something I need to work on for sure.
@@NormanCeriotti I appreciate you getting back to me. Like I said, I wasn't looking for a "nailed ya" moment. I just figured if I had questions the only way to get answers is to ask, right? I'll admit, I've gotten a bit lost in this rabbit-hole lately of "fake musicians" and you were featured in someone's video. It's not anyone I follow, just a video that was suggested to me by RUclips. I tried to ask him some questions and raise some points, but they were quickly lost in the comment section. So, I thought I'd come to the source. Best of luck and keep it up. Music is an experience, not a competition, right?
@@jessegilbert9568 Thank you very much man, best of luck to you too! Yes, that video was a real shock to me, totally unexpected. I passed an heel of a week receiving tons of hate messages and finding out that some people I thought were my friends couldn't avoid to talk shit about me at my back. Luckily my bandmates, family and real friends helped me a lot supporting me and giving me the strenght to go on. It has been really tough for sure. I was also thinking about removing this video but at the end I thought that it was nonsense to hide myself. I didn't have any bad intention and, for better or worse, this period will be part of my music journey and for sure an event quite relevant that made me grow a lot as a person and as a musician.
One of the best comment chains I've seen in a RUclips video. Thanks fellow drummers.
@@fmlAllthetime Glad you like it, conversations like this one are always a real pleasure to me.🙂🙂
My top is 270 I can't get past that. But I won't give up.
Well, 270 BPM is amazing!! I think you could play 99% of extreme metal with that speed.😄 Never give up, you'll be able to acheve every goal you want with motivation and patience!!🙂
@@NormanCeriotti Thank you 🤘
@@NormanCeriotti Brother, thanks for believing in me! Today I reached 280 BPM!
@@JasonPhantom You are very welcome!!😄
@@JasonPhantom That's amazing man!! Congratulations!!😄 Just keep in mind that the learning process isn't linear. I mean when we learn and improve our skills, we don't get better and better every day. Usually we do good during the first attempts, then, the following days, weeks or even months, we see our skills remaining at the same level or even getting worse. Going on practicing and staying motivated, you'll reach the point at which you'll be able to do that on daily basis and usually it comes out from nowhere, after a long period of struggle. So stay strong during the hard times, it just means you are on the right track in order to master what you are working on.🙂
Goddamn bro your hours of practice paid off. Just curious are you using drum triggers for that sound? It was incredibly consistent and no im not apart of the group of people who think drum triggers are "cheating"
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it! Yes, the sound you hear is a mix of microphones and triggers. From around 260/270 BPM on, the sound is almost only trigger since to hit those tempos two years ago I was playing really close to the bass drum head without much power.🙂
Try to ×2 on 300pm
😄😄
No, x0,25 is better
@@cloudstrife5772 🙂
600 bpm
What is the brand of your pedal my good sir?
I use an ACD Unlimited Darwin double pedal🙂
@@NormanCeriotti thanks! I’m thinking of buying the tama speed cobra but still checking other options
@@arudurin No problem! The Speed Cobra is a really good pedal too!🙂
Holy shit!!!
Thank you very much!🔥
sei una bestia !!! complimenti Norman
Grazie mille!! Mi fa davvero piacere che ti sia piaciuto il video!!😄😄
pedal name?
ACD Unlimited Darwin🙂
Cicadas are jealous of you.
😂😂😂
Mad skill man - must be half robot??😅🤘
Ahahahahah thank you very much!!! :D :D
@@janfrech534 SAME GUY, DIFFERENT TECHNIQUE.
ruclips.net/video/SBOKLxsUZIE/видео.html
like a type writer machine
😂😂
Amazing... you got broken ankles yet?
Thank you very much!! Nono, I am fine😁 I injured my legs muscles and hips because of overpracticing when I was playing with swivel. Since I played 10/12 hours everyday without resting, I started having a lot of pain in my hips and legs. Even walking was really hard during those days and after almost 3 years I still feel pain in my right hip if I try to do swivel🙂 On the other hand with the pressure ankle motion I've never had any problem
@@NormanCeriotti Yeah crazy control. I think I'd top out at approximately 220 or 230 max. That's awesome. It's been quite a while since I've played drums. Been in a few bands. My last band was in 2012.
@@NormanCeriotti Your drumkit sounds amazing dude by the way in your other videos.
@@Immortalsouls That's great man!! Why so much time without playing drums? :)
@@Immortalsouls Thank you very much, it is a Pearl Reference kit :)
Good morning. mr cerotti
Do you ever try to reach
380 bpm. ?
Good morning! Honestly I've been working a lot on consistency and stamina lately, on tempos up to 290 BPM. 330 BPM is the max I've ever recorded on some sessions but it was just for short rolls, like 1 or 2 bars at max.🙂
Clean as a whistle!
😁😁😁
Hi there Norman, I'm VERY VERY impressed with. your footwork. I'd like to try this on the cajon. Can I use showcase your video in my video? Basically, I'll be mentioning you, your channel, and that you're the inspiration for me to try it out on the cajon.
Hello! Sure, I'd feel really honored by that! Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
Thank you so much Norman. Appreciate it!!! And keep rocking and inspiring others! 💪😊🌈
@@KamalBensra You are very welcome! Thank you, I am so happy!😄
Norman Ceriotti 😊😊😊🌈🌈🌈💪💪💪
@@KamalBensra 💪💪💪
Fucking shit man, all these saying your double bass is fake just because Sammy says it's fake.
Pro tip, research your source first because if this is fake, just so you know, Sam used to do A LOT of editing in his videos.
I know man, that was a true low blow from a channel which is like 1000 times bigger than mine. He wanted easy views and followed that stupid and nonsense trend of "fake musicians hunt". It's funny because that trend was so stupid that after a couple of weeks it was already gone but still I am receiving a lot of hate from people that most of the time don't even play drums or music at all. With this video I just wanted to have a good quality content that matches RUclips standards, for sure didn't have any bad intention and didn't expect all this hate. By the way I am uploading a new video playing 9 stroke roll at 320 bpm double bass on a pad, single strokes, no trigger, no eq, no compression, audio straight from my camera. Let's see if people will go on hating or will stop.
Killer drummer, saw you live and you were amazing🌪🌪🌪
Thank you so much man, it means a lot to me!🙏
Where you see him?
@@tmp5636 In the last months I played with Locus Animae, An Experience, Alkemy and Stormcrow, in the last years with many others🙂 Not sure where hulk saw me by the way, I played some gigs outside Italy aswell
La batería : estoy cansado , jefe.
400 BPM
That would be FAST😁
Como isso não tem mais 8 bilhões de visualizações?
Ahahahah you are too kind man!!! It's just little video, nothing special.🙂
How?
I use a technique I like to call pressure ankle motion, basically I move the pedal with my calf muscles as in the regular ankle motion and add to this movement a constant pressure applied with my upper leg to keep the pedal closer to the drumhead and reach faster tempos.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti thank you! impressive
@@BigEBigs You are very welcome, thank you very much!🙂
@@NormanCeriotti also that's very cool of u to respond to everyone's questions. Even simple ones like mine! Good work all around
@@BigEBigs No problem man! I am so happy to answer to the comments and help others when I can! Thank you very much!
Uhhh ...perfect
Thank you!😁
i tried this yesterday and today i just got a resign paper from my foot
AHAHAH 😂
I want those shoes
They are Vans, I think I bought them on internet😁
I'm not satisfied until it's a solid note
😁😁
Yea this is definitely legit
Thank you! I just worked on the audio in order to have a good quality video that matches RUclips standards, as 99% of drummers (especially in extreme metal stuff) do. Too bad this video came out in the month of "fake musicians hunt" and a bigger channel wanted to make easy views dragging me into that. Anyway that's how things go nowadays I suppose, so sad.
@@NormanCeriotti You should take those videos as compliments, since they think you are a machine!
@@jaspergillgannon4991 Thank you, that's a great way of thinking about it🙂
@@jaspergillgannon4991 If you're interested, I've just uploaded a new video playing at 320 BPM on a pad with no trigger, no editing, no eq, no compression and with live metronome. I do 16th notes 9 stroke rolls and some triplets which at that tempo are as fast as 240 BPM 16th notes. At the end I play some 16th notes double strokes with hands aswell. Hope you enjoy it!🙂
Thank you for proving I can do 300 bpm in a drum machine! No irony here, pure fucking jealous!
Thank you very much! It's just a matter of practice to be honest😄 I am still working on 260+ BPM by the way🙂
@@NormanCeriotti wow, hey, man! You want a crazy band? we're from Poland and we have some crazy shit with blasts and grooves, n' shit?
Sounds great man!! What's the band name??😄
@@NormanCeriotti hookworm, we're from poland
@ Great, I am going to listen to it!!😄
Como isso e possível ??? 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I use pressure ankle motion, basically I move the pedals with quick contractions of my calf muscles, as in the regular ankle motion, and apply extra pressure pushing down the pedal constantly with the upper leg. This way I keep the beater closer to the bass drum head and can reach faster tempos.🙂
@@NormanCeriotti isso e um nível hiper avançado!!! Eu estou começando meus estudos de pedal duplo a duas semanas, mas meu músculo tibial não se acostumou ainda e está sendo muito difícil pois ele está doendo e ficando rígido e pois não estou conseguindo passar os 140 bpm.
@@benedrum2144 I tend to avoid as much as possible to use the tibialis muscles since they just rise the foot and are very weak. You can obtain the same effect without involving them if you increase a little bit the springs of the pedals to help the pedal board going back to the starting point without you having to rise the foot with the tibialis. Also at 140 BPM what works best for me is using full leg motion, so rising the whole leg with the hip flexors and stomping the pedal to have the hit. Ankle motion at that tempo has never worked for me sadly.
@@NormanCeriotti I understand my friend! I'm going to change the way I play! Thank you for the tip.
@@benedrum2144 You are very welcome! You can try and see if it feels better or not, not everyone is the same, so some techniques can work for someone but maybe not for someone else🙂
66SAMUS : THIS IS TOTALLY FAKE
ME : WHY
66SAMUS : BECAUSE I CANT DO LIKE THAT
Duuudeeee 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️😁
@@JoeAsM92 No, it's not. Fake isn't even a thing in music.🤷♂️
@@JoeAsM92 Not sped up at all, I see you don't even know what you are talking about dude
@@mp7982 I am not a RUclipsr, so I don't do live streams. Anyway, I am a drum teacher and I teach this on daily basis, so you could book a lesson if you want.🙂 I also work as a session drummer and have recorded songs and played live for more than 30 different bands during the last 3 years, some of the songs I recorded have sections in the 300 BPM range.🙂
@@JohnDoe-mb3xy Do you even know how the music industry works? The more ignorant the people are, the more they insult others and complain about everything 🤷♂️
pretty good up to about 260. other than that great video!
Thank you very much! In that period I was working a lot on 260 BPM, so after that it was just pushing beyond my limits. I noticed that my beaters barely leave the drumhead at faster tempos and without a trigger it would have sounded really bad, so since that I've been working a lot. Now I can do 260 BPM for 16 bars and 280 BPM for 8 bars with my feet. Still working on having a better motion and increasing my endurance and control.😁
How do u play that 😱😱😱😰🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Thank you very much! I use pressure ankle motion as Kevin Paradis, Marthyn Jovanovic and Jan Benkwitz. Basically it is ankle motion done with the calf muscles with extra pressure applied pushing down with the upper leg in a constant way.🙂🙂
Awesomeness. I still here a few glitches and some timing issues but for single strokes very cool.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!🙏