WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Moon [NE] - Quarterfinal - $18,000 Don't Force Me Cup Global Finals

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  • Опубликовано: 11 мар 2024
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    🏆 Don't Force Me Cup • WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Fo...
    Quarterfinal
    [UD] Happy vs Moon [NE]
    Cast by: Neo
    Date: March 11th, 2024
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Комментарии • 67

  • @Karim-ik5ij
    @Karim-ik5ij 2 месяца назад +6

    Imagine playing vs UD without the DH as first hero. Suicide. Need to play hit and run with mana burns constantly to win down the line. Don't forget to manaburn the statues

  • @zoltanczere8093
    @zoltanczere8093 2 месяца назад +6

    I dont think ud is overpowered, rather elf is underpowered. I would try some combination of the following:
    -strengthen talons in a meaningful way
    -strengthen antimagic potion
    -strengthen MG
    -rework POTM
    Obly change ud needs is adding 20 secs to GFrenzy research time.
    But ofc im no expert

    • @zoltanczere8093
      @zoltanczere8093 2 месяца назад +1

      Would look at interesting ideas such as potn owl seeing the creep itemdrops before theyre crept

    • @twassell25
      @twassell25 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm sure every single grand final bring an und mirror isn't any sort of indication that und is too strong either

    • @zoltanczere8093
      @zoltanczere8093 2 месяца назад +2

      Not sure what you're talking about as since July 2023 only 1 tournament out of the 11 tier 1 and tier 2 tournaments have been Ud vs Ud (Happy vs 120). That's 9% compared to a perfectly balanced scenario of around 6%. The difference is not statistically significant. Whats significant however is Happy's usual partaking in these finals which I think can be contributed to his consistent gameplay in the last 17 years. Anyway if you have evidence please present it as Im imterested. Thanks.

    • @clarkreed5347
      @clarkreed5347 2 месяца назад +3

      antimagic potion should not be so easily dispelled. Doesn't make sense that Banshee antimagic shell is better than the potion. If too good then could increase cost

    • @leonnunhofer3453
      @leonnunhofer3453 Месяц назад

      Imo DH should be stronger, or Pitlord, because they are cool. Just for this reason. Also Chims should be stronger. Big splash, more dmg, a bit faster, 1 armor more, a bit more range, the sound their lightnings make and their animation should be 25% longer, or constant, and they should add bass to it, and make the sound cooler in general.
      They also could get a screaming ability, that slows enemies attack speed by something like 15%, and it should be the scream from King Ghidorah from Gozilla. That would make chims a lot better and way cooler.
      The ability and the lightning sound and animation would be the most important changes, and they also could increase their size, and change their shape a bit. A bit longer, with larger wings and a bigger breast. Maybe a stronger skull, maybe they should add some red and/or golden colors, and make the rest black. Also red or white glowing eyes. That would look very cool, glowing eyes and the body black, red, gold.
      That would be some of my ideas how they could change NEs.

  • @user-lz6qh4ko7c
    @user-lz6qh4ko7c 2 месяца назад +7

    Happy has the long game endurance . Absolute ability to fight uphill and find Solutions

    • @4bafiafzil999
      @4bafiafzil999 2 месяца назад +1

      G2 could've been his lost, but lo and behold, Moon just being generous and gave away the expo completely uncontested

  • @atonlort5666
    @atonlort5666 2 месяца назад +7

    When happy got supply blocked , and lost a hero vs lawliet , oh it's not a big deal..
    When moon gets supply blocked, "omg such a mistake by moon"😂

    • @LAdS897
      @LAdS897 2 месяца назад +2

      You lose 2 fiends as UD in early game and that’s game over, it’s different races

    • @HopeDust0
      @HopeDust0 2 месяца назад

      @@LAdS897 if you lose 2 Fiends as UD with DK you suck ass and deserve to lose

    • @atonlort5666
      @atonlort5666 2 месяца назад

      @@LAdS897Not if the UD is up against a NE. also 2 fiend cost more than a AOW + an archer. If NE gets his AOW killed in a creep jack early game there is no coming back.

  • @Xengard
    @Xengard 8 дней назад

    Bro... 3 creep snares on those dryada in the last game... Moon likes to play with fire. gg

  • @user-rr9jz5sj5p
    @user-rr9jz5sj5p 2 месяца назад +1

    На третьей карте Мун что-то понял и решил поменять стратегию, взяв ДХ первым героем.

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 2 месяца назад +1

    No human so Happy is definitely favourite

  • @fruzzle3352
    @fruzzle3352 2 месяца назад

    Wait did disease cloud get buffed or smth. Havent played the game in forever

    • @4bafiafzil999
      @4bafiafzil999 2 месяца назад

      Iirc the duration is nerfed from 120s to 75s but dmg remains the same

  • @iz607
    @iz607 2 месяца назад +3

    Why did NE stop doing mass fairy dragons?

    • @sanaebeast4485
      @sanaebeast4485 2 месяца назад

      good idea against any other UD only except HAPPY and EER0.

    • @alexch3618
      @alexch3618 2 месяца назад

      @@sanaebeast4485They are the only UD pros right now. labyrinth showed up when patch UD was in full swing.

    • @4bafiafzil999
      @4bafiafzil999 2 месяца назад +3

      Only good if:
      1) NE get expo
      2) Economically ahead by eco laming UD
      3) Prevent UD from massing fiends

  • @igorkondrashov5466
    @igorkondrashov5466 3 месяца назад

    ВАУ, просто ВАУ... согласен с оратором.

  • @Herrtheone
    @Herrtheone 3 месяца назад +2

    Kaho will revenge Moon

  • @Fringedabyss97
    @Fringedabyss97 3 месяца назад +10

    Hey you know what's cool? Not spoiling the ending, thanks 💯👍

    • @faristurbo113
      @faristurbo113 2 месяца назад +8

      Watch video first, not comments

    • @MsJavaWolf
      @MsJavaWolf 2 месяца назад +4

      @@faristurbo113This. Commenting on who won also seems like an absolutely normal way to use the comments. If we can't discuss who won and why then there will be way less to discuss.

    • @LAdS897
      @LAdS897 2 месяца назад +5

      You read comments before finishing the video? Yikes

  • @Dgvgjvcbjjcxdfvbjjbcc
    @Dgvgjvcbjjcxdfvbjjbcc 2 месяца назад +1

    Oun NO!😂😂😂 Ouuu Yes🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @twassell25
    @twassell25 2 месяца назад +2

    As usual a coil nova from across the map to claim yet another win

    • @SergeiBash
      @SergeiBash 2 месяца назад +4

      As usual your boring whining left yet another stain on the comment section.

  • @robertlemmon7154
    @robertlemmon7154 2 месяца назад +2

    These statues carry the fight every time I watch an undead match. And people never mana burn them? Like the statue is clearly in the range of your demon hunter. Mana burn it. It's so infuriating. You know what the biggest waste of time is versus undead? Distributing your damage among their units when they have a statue. It blows my mind these people have come so far in their careers and make this mistake.
    lol he dropped dryads on the middle of melee units. you're joking haha

  • @chris_van_gainz
    @chris_van_gainz 2 месяца назад +1

    MoonJuice sounds so wrong...

  • @user-kf4fw7he9u
    @user-kf4fw7he9u 3 месяца назад +3

    Ave!

  • @josephmilberg6604
    @josephmilberg6604 2 месяца назад

    Moon!

  • @kokorochin01
    @kokorochin01 2 месяца назад

    Firelord + mass dryads sucks ; how long will it take for people to realize..

    • @4bafiafzil999
      @4bafiafzil999 2 месяца назад

      It's good, until your opponent start massing ranged units instead

  • @godotkrull579
    @godotkrull579 2 месяца назад

    best couple #eva

  • @masongroendal3411
    @masongroendal3411 2 месяца назад +2

    @back2warcraft neo your spit smacking is really gross. 12:25 for reference. You werent even saying any words. Just audibly gathering saliva. I started only watching remo casts because the saliva smacking is so audibly jarring. Turn the sensitivity on your microphone down maybe? Or do some audio wizardry? Please i beg you.

  • @doublechinmask3744
    @doublechinmask3744 3 месяца назад +11

    One of these days NE will beat UD !

    • @memesupreme5502
      @memesupreme5502 2 месяца назад +2

      Spoilers :/

    • @carloscaro4373
      @carloscaro4373 2 месяца назад +2

      Awesome, now I know what happens

    • @RicardoGarcia-yg1xk
      @RicardoGarcia-yg1xk 2 месяца назад +1

      It is possible but they cannot allow themselves to make mistakes, especially if it's vs Happy

    • @4bafiafzil999
      @4bafiafzil999 2 месяца назад

      UD is just the beginning, HU is the bigger boss rn

    • @15thMonkey
      @15thMonkey 2 месяца назад

      ​@@RicardoGarcia-yg1xk I'd argue that if the UD doesn't make major mistakes aswell, UD will still win most of the times. And it's also harder to make impactful mistakes for good UDs than for nightelves right now (by getting nuked, overextending into UD builldings etc.)

  • @MexicanKungfuMaster
    @MexicanKungfuMaster 2 месяца назад +7

    Everyone say it with now.... unbalanced!

  • @sergiorodrigoroyo5079
    @sergiorodrigoroyo5079 3 месяца назад +15

    Incredible all NE has to do with crazy micro, heavy investment in items, and all for being right-clicked.
    Blizzard, fix UD for once.

    • @nightyonetwothree
      @nightyonetwothree 3 месяца назад +7

      heavily investment in items = sell all of them, buy staff+orb?

    • @returnofmerenguespersempre6664
      @returnofmerenguespersempre6664 3 месяца назад +7

      If you keep on crying here, they surely will.

    • @Sam-mj2dq
      @Sam-mj2dq 3 месяца назад +8

      Moon fan girl crying. Nothing new.

    • @sergiorodrigoroyo5079
      @sergiorodrigoroyo5079 3 месяца назад

      @@nightyonetwothreeNo, you don't even get to orb, you get wrecked way earlier.

    • @nightyonetwothree
      @nightyonetwothree 3 месяца назад

      @@sergiorodrigoroyo5079 so what kind of "heavy investment in items" happened? Literally nothing but staff?

  • @MrVinny333
    @MrVinny333 3 месяца назад

    *Breathes heavily through nose*

  • @chanfabian9827
    @chanfabian9827 2 месяца назад

    Fiend > Dryad
    Ghoul > Archer
    Destroyer > Bear
    Naga > Demon Hunter
    Happy > Moon
    Still never changing the strategy and wish to win a game
    Fix your brain before you do micro

  • @user-lt6ps2vd5o
    @user-lt6ps2vd5o 2 месяца назад +2

    Слава императору