One of the best parts of a fishing trip is the meal afterwards... Being out all day or night and preparing your harvest at the end of the trip... It can't be beat !!! Just so fresh and delicious...
The penn spin fisher is my go to for fast lures on the pier. Try the shimano spheros if you do a lot of surf fishing. It has the loudest clicker out of all the spinning reels I've seen
@@adamthomas4462 I use a Penn fierce 3 mostly for Sturgeon fishing. Works pretty good for casting 6+ oz of lead from shore. It's a very heavy reel so I don't think I'd want to cast with it all day but for soaking baits it's awesome
@@adamthomas4462 there really isn't any need to own any of the others. The persuit, fierce and battle are all built off the same platform. All their parts can be swapped between reels and the only major difference is what material the shell is made of.
@@dandenrode yeah good point! The only spinning reels I currently own are the daiwa bg 5000 series a shimano spheros and uhhh some kastking reel I got for cheap on Amazon. Oh yeah, the sharky II baitfeeder. It has actually held up well tbh
Brandon, if you wrap your left thumb at the first knuckle with some flexible tape, you won’t need to fingers to guide your line back onto the conventional reel, the tape will protect your thumb from line cut and you can just move your thumb back and forth over the reel
Back when I was a kid, everyone used a Penn reel (conventional) for surf fishing. I still do and it blows people's minds. I like the spinning reels, too. Especially the super-big ones with the huge bail. The line seems to unload better.
Nice video. I like the enthusiasm, well presented. A lot of people get intimidated learning how to throw a baitcaster. There is a learning curve and it takes a bit of time and practice but it can be VERY rewarding when it all comes together. A couple of tips. When laying down the line, it is important to lay down the line evenly AND to keep the line lay consistent. Try this, when cranking in, count the number of handle turns you take per pass (left to right or vice versa) and try to keep this close to the same every time. On a 656 size reel this is about 6 turns per pass. On a 666 or 757 size try about 7 turns per pass. On the actual cast you are leaving a lot of distance on the table by being right arm dominate. Focus on a complete pull with the left (all the way to the left side of your chest) allowing the right to act as a fulcrum point as you "punch". The pull is where most lose power. Also "LOOK UP" to your target which is 45 deg above the horizon over the desired splashdown spot. Again, well done as this will help others get past the stigma of baitcasting reels!
Do you think they'll ever make conventional reels like a baitcaster so you don't have to manually layer the line as you're reeling in. When that day comes, I think I'll stop using spinning reels altogether.
@@badass.bob1 there are levelwind conventional reels but they reduce your casting distance as the line does not flow as smooth as non-levelwind conventional reels
The key is to use at least 4'-5' of line hanging from the rod tip when surf casting. This reduces spool startup speed which lowers the chance for backlashes and leads to increased distance. On baitcasters I use at least 3'-5' of line when distance casting. Tight lines out there!
Lengthen the drop to 8' which slows down the cast even more. Then cast off-ground or pendulum, compressing the rod. An overhead cast doesn't load the rod properly which causes the tip to straighten to soon. This causes a surge at the reel and leads to birdsnests.
It's all a personal choice. Will never want to use those "conventional" reels again, tried way too many times and tbh, never got used to them. Never felt comfortable when casting or reeling in a fish. But then again, never been big game fishing etc where you have to use them. Liked the video, it actually gives me an open mind to one day buy another one and use it on the boat, that could work in combination with what I already have. idk. Thanks. Cheers.
The secret is to use no spool tension and set your brakes to about 60%. You want a hair of side to side play in the spool. You should never bird's-nest.
Nice, commenting at 9:45, both reel types have their own advantages, for the conventional try getting a rod where the reel anchors to the lower end of the rod. Then the thumb braking and control you do on the inside/top side of the spool and not on the line. Then make a light fake cast and when you bring it back then you send it. Holding the rod with reel tilted at no more than 90 degrees on it's side at the point of casting bringing it to horizontal after despatching payload. Then if stuck in rocks/kelp always wrap line around rod and don't put tension on spool or drag system and slowly start moving backwards. Don't use spool bearing nuts as a braking system. Always ensure that spool release is on release when casting with a conventional real, because the amount of power you exert when casting is going to dislodge the rod and reel from your grip to cast out of your hands. A costly disaster if you are casting on a hard surface like rocks. When you practice start slow, go for release, line tension control ,accuracy and mastering of the cast. Then comes power and distance. More distance can be achieved by releasing some more line when one brings the rod back from the fake cast with intent, like /as one does with flyfishing adding a meter or two when casting. The latter requires that one has mastered the reel and casting with it. 15:38 Waist rod holders, and casting with the conventional reel is going to test your knots, line and your temperament. I would recommend a +/- 12 kg line, leader of your choice or required, a lighter sinker/weight line, so if it is stuck and you have hooked a fish, let the weight's line be the part that breaks. Then swivels, don't use tri just normal. Hook and main line to the top loop and weight line too bottom. The sliding rig you have shown in the past is also effective on sand /surf. On reefs less is more effective. Can you cast spinning rigs with conventional, yes, but not very light ones.
Nice vid. I remember as a kid in NJ using a Penn Long Beach. Bird's nests were the rule rather than the exception. Most anglers don't have the patience to use a conventional reel, and use spinning reels exclusively nowadays.
I always love the whine of the spinning reel drag system when a fish runs. Bait cast reels don't offer this feature but mind you, I did grow up using spinning outfits since childhood..... I still budget myself $50 for any spinning rod and reel setup as this is all one really needs for rainbow trout up to 8 pounds...!
Thank You so very much for the great video!! With the most Sincere due respect, what you're referring to as a "Conventional Reel", here in the Northwestern U.S. and British Columbia Canada, Salmon and Steelhead anglers, call them "Baitcasting" Reels (including the Bass, Catfish and Sturgeon anglers). I'm a retired Fish Pathologist in the Pacific Northwest and presently an Outdoor and Science writer (formerly a Columnist and Contributing Science editor for the largest Fish Culture Magazine). I also do some very limited guiding for Pacific Salmon, Steelhead and Sea-Run Cutthroat trout). Since we're 10 minutes from the Ocean, I also fish for non anadromous Ocean species, such as Lingcod, Rock fishes. I began fishing for landlocked Brown Trout (Salmon trutta), at 3 years of age (in the late 50s?). Later as a teenager I fished for the Huge anadromous Brown Trout in Caspian Sea tributaries.. Also whenever I had the opportunity, I fished for the largest Sturgeon on Earth (the Beluga), In Caspian Sea!! Sometimes, even less commonly, I fished the Persian Gulf, for GT (Giant Trevally), and Very limited Angling for Billfish (Marlin). Unfortunately due to a Serious problem with motion sickness in the Sea (both Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf), I avoided fishing in the Sea from a boat!! Please forgive my errors, as I'm typing this on a very cheap phone without my glasses 🤓
We use conventional reels in Hawaii to cast our 13 foot ulua poles. We usually load it with mono 80lb and up top it off with a shock leader. We wet the line to prevent line burns as we use our thumb as a break to prevent birds nest. Most of the shore casters use Penn 4/0 to 9/0.
@@rkw221 that sounds like a great idea. I'll try to make some myself after i get back. I'm more wanting to try the squid and shrimp since thats the only bait i typically use.
Avets are really great for fishing very durable we use them here in Texas the can cast a mile as well no need to clean them either I’ve seen guys go years with no maintenance and still work like the first day and there very beautiful
That is a really great idea to put your bait in salt. Not only does it make the bait firmer, it also keeps it from rotting. I got to use this when I'm using bait. Tight lines out there!
awesome video. so cool to see you guys exploring new ways on fishing haha i've tried overhead surf fishing before and tbh while i did enjoy using it, i didn't find it too practical as you had to pay lot of attention to it. my overhead reel was a penn squall 15. great reel but in the end i found spin with long cast spools to be far easier haha. if i was to use a spin for long distances casting i would recommend the shimano ultegra anyday.
I suggest that you do not "bring the momentum forward," but rather pull down hard and fast with your left hand. Your right hand should be your fulcrum point. Use the magnetic spool brake to slow it as it comes down the arc, open it up and use your thumb to slow the spool, your cast will go much further.
@Bernardo right hand is more like a javelin throw with an extended arm behind you until it's just above your shoulder (about where your hand would be if you were serving in tennis) then with it just in front of you, pull down very hard and fast with your left hand. It needs to be a smooth motion or you will get a severe backlash. Be looking and Release at about 11:00. There are lots of vids. Try Tommy Farmer's videos--there are many others, but he is very good.
@Bernardo check out beach bomber fishing on RUclips. He's by far my favorite. Go back and watch his older stuff too. I've been fishing all my life (37 years) and I still learn new stuff. Not just from beach bomber but from skipper too and several others
@Bernardo Donna's explanation is pretty spot on as well. Think like you're throwing a javelin and not letting go. Once you practice more you'll get a better feel for it and you'll know exactly when to release and your bait will soar out there. I recommend buying some super cheap mono for practicing because you're gonna get backlash and may have to cut your line.. Hell I've been using casting reels for over a decade and I still get em sometimes. Shit happens lol
Just some info that those that have never used a 'baitcaster' before (that IS what this 'conventional' reel is, for all intents and purposes in this video). The right side adjustment, tensioner, removes 'slack' from the reel axle to stop side play. it can also be tightened (do not over tighten) to prevent backlashing that occurs at the BEGINNING of the cast. Typically, you adjust the tensioner so your lure/bait fall slowly (before casting). The 'braking' (be it magents, friction pins, centrifugal) slows the spool near the END of the cast when the lure/bait slow down as they lose energy during 'flight'. This helps prevent backlashing near the END of the cast if the spool is 'spinning' faster than the line is peeling off it (as the lure/bait slows). The rule of thumb is, right side for the beginning of the cast (tensioner), left side for the end of the cast (braking). And adjust the braking for 'wind'...more into the wind, less with the wind. And remember, the third and most important brake for baitcasters, YOUR THUMB. Both tensioner and brake are SET in a position, ONLY your thumb is 'dynamic' during your cast. You can apply and release thumb pressure during your cast. RE: the 'conventional casts farther'...I don't know anyone that would say a baitcaster casts farther than a spinning rig. Given that spinning rigs don't have 'tensioners' or 'brakes' to slow down the line feeding off the spool (and nearly EVERY baitcaster HAS to have some kind of 'braking' even if its just your thumb) I don't know how a baitcaster could cast farther (unless you forego ANY braking at all...then a birds nest will JERK your lure/bait to a stop anyway and WAY short of any distance). Personally, I fish off shore with my Penn10 (20lb) on an 8.5ft Med. rod and have NO issues with distance. I can cast just as far as my (though not really adequate for the target fish) spinning rigs (max. 15lb. line on 7ft. MH rods). But that's NOT 'surf fishing', it's shore fishing. Salmon runs, flounder (and damn crabs/clams that keep taking my bait). But I have ALWAYS been able to outcast (distance) my baitcaster using my spinning rigs (every thing being equal other than reels).
I easily cast further with my conventional reels. The world record longest casts are consistently done on conventional reels. Keep in mind, skill is required to do so.
Some folks can’t use conventional and I’ve fished and lived in NC for 67 years. I am 60% blind. If you can’t see well you can’t use a conventional reel. You have to know when that bait rig hits the water so you can use your thumb to stop the spool and avoid the backlash. When I lost my sight I sold my conventional baitcasters after being unable to cast effectively. The line guide is called the level-wind mechanism. After years and years with spinners I have no problem getting my rig where I need it. I wish I could use a conventional reel but you do what you have to. I use vintage Mitchell, Penn, Bretton, and Luxor PUM fishing reels some of which were made in the 1050s.I have 150 vintage surf spinning reels. Bail-less spinning reels can get very close to the distance of conventional reels. Bails just get in the way. Great Pompano!
I really love my baitcaster rig in the surf for lures and soft plastics. I got an Abu Garcia black max combo last Christmas but the rod was only 5'6 it only gives me a limited casting distance. I'll keep that rod for when I get a kayak but I'm ordering a Abu Garcia veritas 7'9 rod to use with the Black Max reel in the surf. I'll always have my 10' and 12' spinning surf rods for beach bait fishing, however I feel the longer baitcaster will be a lot mote fun with lures and plastics in the surf and estuaries. Only started fishing at xmas 2020, loving it so much. The collection is up to 6 rod and reels so far. Love your videos man. Fish on, fish hard bro
I had watched your videos for a long time and you surprise me with the addition of a casting reel. As a very old user of this type of reel let me recommend you try to get an Abu Garcia 6500 C3. This reel is made in Sweden and is the longest I have used. Combined with a 10' or 11' fast rod you can cover a lot of water with the added benefit of not having to take care about how the line is leveled on the reel. I have been outcasting my friends for years using this reel. One caveat: use mono line because the braid lane does not "mix well" with the level winder. I normally use Trilene XT in 17 lb. Good luck and Happy Fishing...
Hey bro don't use the brakes set it zero, use your thumb for feel, just as soon as its about to hit the water use that thumb, you will get further distance.
@@HeySkipperI agree with you. I've used "the new braid" ever since they became available, but also, I've used Baitcasting Reels (with or without a level wind), since the mid 60s! Before 8 strand Power Pro, I used Braided Dacron, with a mono bumper. My main forte' is Pacific Salmon and Steelhead (genus Oncorhynchus). Thanks again!!
I’m not sure if I need or want a conventional reel setup but maybe. & If so,from what you can tell about the action of the rod,balance and all ,really like the way you did yours. The spinning reel is nice! I need one of those in 2500-3000 range for a new 8ish feet 1 piece rod that I haven’t found yet. Been fishing a St.Croix (sp?)7’8 and a fin nor for a look time. Not retiring that quite yet but it’s getting tiered. Have some pretty major purchases to make soon. Have to shop around. It’s been a long time. The salted bait is a good idea. Going to make a batch. Hopefully the secret strips on the bottom will remain a secret. Clue…will be from the bottom filet of a master of ambushing it meals. Some whole small shrimp and other size /pieces among other things. Should be interesting to see how it goes. Take care.
The Akios 656 gets amazing distance and is good for fish up to about 40 lb. Other good ones are the Penn Fathom II and Squall II Casting Specials, and the Avets -- the SX and MXL with magnetic braking (MC)
I've had a 15' spinning, casting and Alvi sidecast . I like to use plugs or lures. I think they are about the same . I am currently using a casting reel .
For big fish I always use reels! If you cn master yourself how to use them you are a winner! No spinning reel can beat a multi reel when it comes to dragg and the amount of force you can give them!
Always love your videos bro! Fyi here in NY what you call a bluefish we call a snapper, we dont call them blues until they are atleast 20inch or better..
In the U.K. we call them fixed spool reels not spinning reels, spinning reels are a specific type of fixed spool & the conventional reel we call multipliers, you can but the multipliers with built in level wind.
Hey man I met you tonight at the skyway and I gotta say it was awesome meeting you.I wouldn’t mind fishing with you one day and learn a few things from a pro if your around again anytime let me know.
I did not see it mentioned, but when trying to cast a heavier bait/sinker on a spinning real as far as you can, your fingers take a beating. Mine used to get cut up by the nylon. Thats the incentive to switch to a multiplying real. Much better option to cast a heavier bait far.
Been casting conventional fifty-some years. You share tips, here's a few for you, if you like; Ditch the magnetic braking and clutch the spool with your thumb instead. Like the difference between car's automatic or manual transmissions, the manual gives a more precise measure of control. And, if you rotate the rod 90 on it's longitudinal axis so the spool is riding on one bearing, rather than both, you get more distance for the duration of the cast. Sans level wind mechanisms (good for you), thumb alone will do it. Might be more comfortable. On the rare occasions when I do get a backlash. it's minor. Then, there's always some dork standing right behind me saying, 'You see, that's why I use spinning gear.'. But he's not even fishing today. He's only there for commentary purposes. Uhh, okay...
hey skipper, use schedule 40 pvc in 5 foot sections as rod holders, cut the end at an angle, get them about half way in the sand... strong enough to fight sharks from them, wont get your nice expensive combos yanked into the water if a big un pulls hard. great vids as always. God bless
I do the same too. Here in Australia, it's 50mm pvc conduit. Cut the end at 50° about 1 metre long pushed half way into the sand. I've hooked sharks on my 12' rod and they haven't pulled my rig down yet. Cheep nd effective.
@@badass.bob1 yes sir, i use the slightly smaller diameter because most of my blanks are built for jetties and rocks, no bulky butt ends and small conventional reels on long rigs , i build my 50w rod this way too, ive pulled these pvc pieces with my full body weight and they hold tight. australlia is a dream fishing destination for me. im in s.texas
I never worry about my rod holders. I use strong metal ones (as well as some pvc ones too) and as long as your drag is loose enough and you can hear the clicker going off that rod ain't goin nowhere
My favorite chunking set up is conventional. Effortless casts to 85 yards give or take. What a game changer. Awesome video!! Best way to begin using a conventional set up for me was spooling it with 15-20lb mono till I got very comfy.
What size sinker were you using? Did you tie on a shock leader to your main line? My understanding is that the shock leader will prevent the main line from snapping due to the load during the cast. The shock leader should be the length of the rod and should rap around the reel five times. The strength of the leader should be 1/10 the strength of the weight your casting. If your casting 8 oz. You should have an 80lb shock leader. If you have 12lb test line on your reel but your casting 6 ozs (weight plus the bait) you should use a 60 lb test Shock leader.
I was thinking the same thing. When they really start casting it's going to become a safety thing for the people around them if they're not using a shock leader.
I use both in the UK. This wasn't a fair test. In the UK a beachcasting fixed spool reel is about twice the size of yours! It will cast about the same distance as a multiplier reel.
might be the two best and best value spinning reals made today. easy to maintain, not sealed but no bearings to get toasted by salt water & sand , of is the one or two bearings, i forget? They are dead reliable...guys have been fishing them for about 40-50yrs ....my new SaltX 6000 is great but all those seals are just fragile which leaves bearings vulnerable once a seal blows out. but it's sure fun to work on...kinda. :p
If you replace the guides on a spinning rod you can cast alot further, what I mean by that is the the first guide needs to be the same diameter as the spool. You might have to have it custom done, but if you're looking for more distance on a spinning set up it's totally worth it.
@@bobbyesterly I should be a little more clear if you or anyone else wants to try this, and it does work. When I say "first guide" I mean the one closest to the reel, and the rest of the guides should tapper according. I just wanted to be clear.
@@HeySkipper my pleasure Skipper, I love sharing surf fishing tactics, and I love learning from other people's experiences. I have learned some cool stuff from you, and people from all around the world.
It’s cool that you still use conventional, however I question how practical bait caster reels are when spinning reels are less expensive and simple, without all the bird nest headaches, and I contend spinning reels are more versatile and will preform better when used with a variety of weights when properly set up with braid. Though conventional have more power, spinning reels can move line in faster than conventional, unless you are willing to spend big bucks. Perhaps the biggest nod to spinning over bait casting is, no matter how much you spend on one, they do not (and cannot) offer water sealed components like the spinning reels. Ultimately, I think it comes down to preference. Both will get the job done. To me, it’s like my motorcycle. I own a retro. New modern bikes generally have better performance, and often at a lower price, however I like the look and feel of my old school bike. It’s what I am comfortable with and enjoy. I could be wrong, but it seems it’s much the same feeling for those who choose baitcasters over spinning reels. Thanks for the videos !
A trick I learned when casting a conventional real is is to tie surgical tubing Around the rod handle and use it To pressure thumb against the real For friction and farther Cass Also after a while your thumb will start to Develop blisters From repeated casting So that surgical tubing really helps
I like your videos. You are very Knowledgeable. I have a small Garcia reel that I bird nested real bad but once I learned how to set it and use my thumb for the brake much happier. It does have the bar that goes back and forth when reeling in the line.
Here is SA we find that big spinning(grinder) reels cast much further than conventional ( multiplier) reels. I recommend you watch the SA youtube channel Asfn fishing to see the different techniques to cast. btw here in SA we don't use magnets to slow the reel.
I use both " depending on the scenario in the situation and location, but I grew up casting a 4/0 penn the key to no bird nesting" ( thumb drag ) before it hits the water, I think that's why most people use a spinning reel, setting the spool drag helps the noobs
You should get a diawa saltist blue cause it is the best reel its something like the conventional reel but better you should try it out and I would suggest the 30 ha size
Don’t know if you still have that combo but if you do check out Nick at brake away he has a thumb holder for the reel it’s like a rubber band and let’s you put more pressure on the reel for further casting also if you do a pendulum cast you might get out to the 3rd gut
You don't have to manually even up the line when you reel it in. If the line starts to bunch up in one area, the line will automatically start to move towards an area with less line. Once in a while you might have to help it shift to a low line area with your left thumb, but it is not necessary to lay the line down perfectly evenly. In small baitcasting reel, they have a level wind, but it adds unnecessary friction for surfcasting.
URGENT: Not sure if I caught what you did, but sounds like you tightened the tensioner knobs/spool end caps in order to add braking to the spool before the cast. If that's the case, you don't want to be doing that with these conventional reels. It puts direct pressure on the left bearing and can damage it over time! Tensioner knobs should be loosened just enough so that there is a little side play in the spool. UPDATE: Should say, the above is the case for conventional reels like Akios with ball bearings and free-floating spools. There are some Ambassadeurs that look similar externally but the spindle is attached to the spool. It's probably fine to use the spool tensioner knob for braking on those reels.
need to fill that spool big guy...you can be a lot more aggressive on the cast once you get the hang of a conventional. i never have used a magnetic conventional it will be interesting to see your take. I fished them from surf for 0ver 40yrs and stil get the occasional birds nest. but i think you'l like t for getting out past the 2nd bar at least. you should be able to get at least 140-150yds out there once you get confidence to dial back the mag brake. fyi all conventionals have mechanical breaking to adjust that works the same way. it looks like the mag is easier to learn...???
Finally, I see you using multiplier reel. Pros n cons on both to be honest. One is not better or worst than the other. Loosen up that spool so there is a slight play, set mag to max...risk is just birdnest.. that's the fun... 😁😁😁
I cut my teeth on conventional reels as a kid. My first reel was a Penn Jigmaster 500. It doesn’t have any magnets, but I can still cast it a country mile without birds nests. That being said, when I later started using spinning reels, I had to change the hand crank to the other side on all my reels. Winding with my left hand just doesn’t feel natural to me. That’s what happens when you grow up with conventional reels.
Try the UK style Surf rods like Zziplex or Century rods, they are more expensive and idk if they sell those over there, i have used an Akios 14 foot (fixed spool/spinning reel) and Zziplex 13 foot (multiplier/conventional), these type of rods, you would usually use a reel down position for multiplier/conventional reels (basically reel closer to the butt section).
I realize I’m resurrecting a necro thread here, but any chance you’re going to attend any casting tournaments in TX or on the east coast? Being a solid caster can really pay dividends when fishing for pompano, reds & a few others.
One of the best parts of a fishing trip is the meal afterwards... Being out all day or night and preparing your harvest at the end of the trip... It can't be beat !!! Just so fresh and delicious...
It's even 10X better if you can prepare you catch for lunch and then head out fishing again after lunch!
@@happycat0411you know it.
I love my Penn spinning reels. Super versatile, bombproof, and budget-friendly.
The penn spin fisher is my go to for fast lures on the pier. Try the shimano spheros if you do a lot of surf fishing. It has the loudest clicker out of all the spinning reels I've seen
@@adamthomas4462 I use a Penn fierce 3 mostly for Sturgeon fishing. Works pretty good for casting 6+ oz of lead from shore. It's a very heavy reel so I don't think I'd want to cast with it all day but for soaking baits it's awesome
@@dandenrode nice man! I haven't tried the firece line yet. I think at this point if I buy any more reels I'll be sleeping in the garage 🤣😂
@@adamthomas4462 there really isn't any need to own any of the others. The persuit, fierce and battle are all built off the same platform. All their parts can be swapped between reels and the only major difference is what material the shell is made of.
@@dandenrode yeah good point! The only spinning reels I currently own are the daiwa bg 5000 series a shimano spheros and uhhh some kastking reel I got for cheap on Amazon. Oh yeah, the sharky II baitfeeder. It has actually held up well tbh
Brandon, if you wrap your left thumb at the first knuckle with some flexible tape, you won’t need to fingers to guide your line back onto the conventional reel, the tape will protect your thumb from line cut and you can just move your thumb back and forth over the reel
or just stick with mono...on conventional i'm not sold braid makes any difference in casting. hasn't on mine so far.
We kind of figured this out after using it a few more times! Thanks for the tip.
you can be a good teacher, whatever topic you choose, cause your way of explanation is awesome
Look at this guy - he a grown man now all grown up . Good to see you bro
Why would someone dislike these videos!! 🤷🏻♂️ this guy is a genius!!💯💯💯
Haters need no reason
Because Skipper just exposed their secret
Back when I was a kid, everyone used a Penn reel (conventional) for surf fishing. I still do and it blows people's minds.
I like the spinning reels, too. Especially the super-big ones with the huge bail. The line seems to unload better.
Nice video. I like the enthusiasm, well presented. A lot of people get intimidated learning how to throw a baitcaster. There is a learning curve and it takes a bit of time and practice but it can be VERY rewarding when it all comes together. A couple of tips. When laying down the line, it is important to lay down the line evenly AND to keep the line lay consistent. Try this, when cranking in, count the number of handle turns you take per pass (left to right or vice versa) and try to keep this close to the same every time. On a 656 size reel this is about 6 turns per pass. On a 666 or 757 size try about 7 turns per pass. On the actual cast you are leaving a lot of distance on the table by being right arm dominate. Focus on a complete pull with the left (all the way to the left side of your chest) allowing the right to act as a fulcrum point as you "punch". The pull is where most lose power. Also "LOOK UP" to your target which is 45 deg above the horizon over the desired splashdown spot. Again, well done as this will help others get past the stigma of baitcasting reels!
Thanks for the advice, Tommy.
Do you think they'll ever make conventional reels like a baitcaster so you don't have to manually layer the line as you're reeling in. When that day comes, I think I'll stop using spinning reels altogether.
No one knows better than Tommy!
@@badass.bob1 there are levelwind conventional reels but they reduce your casting distance as the line does not flow as smooth as non-levelwind conventional reels
If levelwind works only with line retrieve that would be a different level in conventional reels praticality , so far they’r not for me.
The key is to use at least 4'-5' of line hanging from the rod tip when surf casting. This reduces spool startup speed which lowers the chance for backlashes and leads to increased distance. On baitcasters I use at least 3'-5' of line when distance casting. Tight lines out there!
Good advice, the other key,is lots of practice,,,,,,do not be intimidated, but yeah,conventional reels have ruled forever, for good reason.
I think you’ll find The length required is directly governed by the rod action vs weight and speed being cast
Thx for the tips yall
Lengthen the drop to 8' which slows down the cast even more. Then cast off-ground or pendulum, compressing the rod. An overhead cast doesn't load the rod properly which causes the tip to straighten to soon. This causes a surge at the reel and leads to birdsnests.
It's all a personal choice. Will never want to use those "conventional" reels again, tried way too many times and tbh, never got used to them. Never felt comfortable when casting or reeling in a fish.
But then again, never been big game fishing etc where you have to use them.
Liked the video, it actually gives me an open mind to one day buy another one and use it on the boat, that could work in combination with what I already have. idk.
Thanks.
Cheers.
The secret is to use no spool tension and set your brakes to about 60%. You want a hair of side to side play in the spool. You should never bird's-nest.
Nice, commenting at 9:45, both reel types have their own advantages, for the conventional try getting a rod where the reel anchors to the lower end of the rod. Then the thumb braking and control you do on the inside/top side of the spool and not on the line. Then make a light fake cast and when you bring it back then you send it. Holding the rod with reel tilted at no more than 90 degrees on it's side at the point of casting bringing it to horizontal after despatching payload. Then if stuck in rocks/kelp always wrap line around rod and don't put tension on spool or drag system and slowly start moving backwards. Don't use spool bearing nuts as a braking system. Always ensure that spool release is on release when casting with a conventional real, because the amount of power you exert when casting is going to dislodge the rod and reel from your grip to cast out of your hands. A costly disaster if you are casting on a hard surface like rocks. When you practice start slow, go for release, line tension control ,accuracy and mastering of the cast. Then comes power and distance. More distance can be achieved by releasing some more line when one brings the rod back from the fake cast with intent, like /as one does with flyfishing adding a meter or two when casting. The latter requires that one has mastered the reel and casting with it. 15:38 Waist rod holders, and casting with the conventional reel is going to test your knots, line and your temperament. I would recommend a +/- 12 kg line, leader of your choice or required, a lighter sinker/weight line, so if it is stuck and you have hooked a fish, let the weight's line be the part that breaks. Then swivels, don't use tri just normal. Hook and main line to the top loop and weight line too bottom. The sliding rig you have shown in the past is also effective on sand /surf. On reefs less is more effective. Can you cast spinning rigs with conventional, yes, but not very light ones.
Nice vid. I remember as a kid in NJ using a Penn Long Beach. Bird's nests were the rule rather than the exception. Most anglers don't have the patience to use a conventional reel, and use spinning reels exclusively nowadays.
I’m excited to use mine. I got a Penn squall star drag casting special matched it up with a slimecat medium
I always love the whine of the spinning reel drag system when a fish runs. Bait cast reels don't offer this feature but mind you, I did grow up using spinning outfits since childhood.....
I still budget myself $50 for any spinning rod and reel setup as this is all one really needs for rainbow trout up to 8 pounds...!
Garcia pro rocket FTW, such a pleasurable experience and little to no line twist! Always have spinning on had for da old lady and friends though
Thank You so very much for the great video!!
With the most Sincere due respect, what you're referring to as a "Conventional Reel", here in the Northwestern U.S. and British Columbia Canada, Salmon and Steelhead anglers, call them "Baitcasting" Reels (including the Bass, Catfish and Sturgeon anglers).
I'm a retired Fish Pathologist in the Pacific Northwest and presently an Outdoor and Science writer (formerly a Columnist and Contributing Science editor for the largest Fish Culture Magazine). I also do some very limited guiding for Pacific Salmon, Steelhead and Sea-Run Cutthroat trout). Since we're 10 minutes from the Ocean, I also fish for non anadromous Ocean species, such as Lingcod, Rock fishes. I began fishing for landlocked Brown Trout (Salmon trutta), at 3 years of age (in the late 50s?). Later as a teenager I fished for the Huge anadromous Brown Trout in Caspian Sea tributaries.. Also whenever I had the opportunity, I fished for the largest Sturgeon on Earth (the Beluga), In Caspian Sea!! Sometimes, even less commonly, I fished the Persian Gulf, for GT (Giant Trevally), and Very limited Angling for Billfish (Marlin). Unfortunately due to a Serious problem with motion sickness in the Sea (both Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf), I avoided fishing in the Sea from a boat!!
Please forgive my errors, as I'm typing this on a very cheap phone without my glasses 🤓
We use conventional reels in Hawaii to cast our 13 foot ulua poles. We usually load it with mono 80lb and up top it off with a shock leader. We wet the line to prevent line burns as we use our thumb as a break to prevent birds nest. Most of the shore casters use Penn 4/0 to 9/0.
bingo
Would love to come fishing with you!
Too broke to buy a bits box but the vacation is still on. Can't wait to go fishing in Florida
@@rkw221 that sounds like a great idea. I'll try to make some myself after i get back. I'm more wanting to try the squid and shrimp since thats the only bait i typically use.
Avets are really great for fishing very durable we use them here in Texas the can cast a mile as well no need to clean them either I’ve seen guys go years with no maintenance and still work like the first day and there very beautiful
Avets are legit
Love avet reels would like to get one one of these days
That is a really great idea to put your bait in salt. Not only does it make the bait firmer, it also keeps it from rotting. I got to use this when I'm using bait. Tight lines out there!
awesome video. so cool to see you guys exploring new ways on fishing haha i've tried overhead surf fishing before and tbh while i did enjoy using it, i didn't find it too practical as you had to pay lot of attention to it. my overhead reel was a penn squall 15. great reel but in the end i found spin with long cast spools to be far easier haha. if i was to use a spin for long distances casting i would recommend the shimano ultegra anyday.
I suggest that you do not "bring the momentum forward," but rather pull down hard and fast with your left hand. Your right hand should be your fulcrum point. Use the magnetic spool brake to slow it as it comes down the arc, open it up and use your thumb to slow the spool, your cast will go much further.
@Bernardo right hand is more like a javelin throw with an extended arm behind you until it's just above your shoulder (about where your hand would be if you were serving in tennis) then with it just in front of you, pull down very hard and fast with your left hand. It needs to be a smooth motion or you will get a severe backlash. Be looking and Release at about 11:00. There are lots of vids. Try Tommy Farmer's videos--there are many others, but he is very good.
@Bernardo check out beach bomber fishing on RUclips. He's by far my favorite. Go back and watch his older stuff too. I've been fishing all my life (37 years) and I still learn new stuff. Not just from beach bomber but from skipper too and several others
@Bernardo Donna's explanation is pretty spot on as well. Think like you're throwing a javelin and not letting go. Once you practice more you'll get a better feel for it and you'll know exactly when to release and your bait will soar out there. I recommend buying some super cheap mono for practicing because you're gonna get backlash and may have to cut your line.. Hell I've been using casting reels for over a decade and I still get em sometimes. Shit happens lol
Right arm is definitely not a fulcrum point... It's the main driver of the cast.
But both arms have their role.
In addition to that, tighten the brakes a bit more, then you can really chuck it as hard as you want.
Just some info that those that have never used a 'baitcaster' before (that IS what this 'conventional' reel is, for all intents and purposes in this video). The right side adjustment, tensioner, removes 'slack' from the reel axle to stop side play. it can also be tightened (do not over tighten) to prevent backlashing that occurs at the BEGINNING of the cast. Typically, you adjust the tensioner so your lure/bait fall slowly (before casting).
The 'braking' (be it magents, friction pins, centrifugal) slows the spool near the END of the cast when the lure/bait slow down as they lose energy during 'flight'. This helps prevent backlashing near the END of the cast if the spool is 'spinning' faster than the line is peeling off it (as the lure/bait slows).
The rule of thumb is, right side for the beginning of the cast (tensioner), left side for the end of the cast (braking). And adjust the braking for 'wind'...more into the wind, less with the wind.
And remember, the third and most important brake for baitcasters, YOUR THUMB. Both tensioner and brake are SET in a position, ONLY your thumb is 'dynamic' during your cast. You can apply and release thumb pressure during your cast.
RE: the 'conventional casts farther'...I don't know anyone that would say a baitcaster casts farther than a spinning rig. Given that spinning rigs don't have 'tensioners' or 'brakes' to slow down the line feeding off the spool (and nearly EVERY baitcaster HAS to have some kind of 'braking' even if its just your thumb) I don't know how a baitcaster could cast farther (unless you forego ANY braking at all...then a birds nest will JERK your lure/bait to a stop anyway and WAY short of any distance).
Personally, I fish off shore with my Penn10 (20lb) on an 8.5ft Med. rod and have NO issues with distance. I can cast just as far as my (though not really adequate for the target fish) spinning rigs (max. 15lb. line on 7ft. MH rods). But that's NOT 'surf fishing', it's shore fishing. Salmon runs, flounder (and damn crabs/clams that keep taking my bait). But I have ALWAYS been able to outcast (distance) my baitcaster using my spinning rigs (every thing being equal other than reels).
I easily cast further with my conventional reels. The world record longest casts are consistently done on conventional reels. Keep in mind, skill is required to do so.
Some folks can’t use conventional and I’ve fished and lived in NC for 67 years. I am 60% blind. If you can’t see well you can’t use a conventional reel. You have to know when that bait rig hits the water so you can use your thumb to stop the spool and avoid the backlash. When I lost my sight I sold my conventional baitcasters after being unable to cast effectively. The line guide is called the level-wind mechanism. After years and years with spinners I have no problem getting my rig where I need it. I wish I could use a conventional reel but you do what you have to. I use vintage Mitchell, Penn, Bretton, and Luxor PUM fishing reels some of which were made in the 1050s.I have 150 vintage surf spinning reels. Bail-less spinning reels can get very close to the distance of conventional reels. Bails just get in the way. Great Pompano!
Great vid dude! Very informative. Retired recently & looking to get into fishing cause I love sea food. God's speed.
Spinning reel is da best, no birds nest. No learning curve, just plain old fun fishing
Awesome catch and cook guys. Always enjoy your videos. Be Safe.
Thank you so much!
Tommy Farmer’s Carolina Cast Pro rods are incredibly good! Also the Penn Fathom 2 sdcs will get the job done.
I really love my baitcaster rig in the surf for lures and soft plastics. I got an Abu Garcia black max combo last Christmas but the rod was only 5'6 it only gives me a limited casting distance. I'll keep that rod for when I get a kayak but I'm ordering a Abu Garcia veritas 7'9 rod to use with the Black Max reel in the surf. I'll always have my 10' and 12' spinning surf rods for beach bait fishing, however I feel the longer baitcaster will be a lot mote fun with lures and plastics in the surf and estuaries. Only started fishing at xmas 2020, loving it so much. The collection is up to 6 rod and reels so far. Love your videos man. Fish on, fish hard bro
I had watched your videos for a long time and you surprise me with the addition of a casting reel. As a
very old user of this type of reel let me recommend you try to get an Abu Garcia 6500 C3. This reel is made in Sweden and is the longest I have used. Combined with a 10' or 11' fast rod you can cover a lot of water with the added benefit of not having to take care about how the line is leveled on the reel.
I have been outcasting my friends for years using this reel. One caveat: use mono line because the braid lane does not "mix well" with the level winder. I normally use Trilene XT in 17 lb. Good luck and Happy Fishing...
Hey bro don't use the brakes set it zero, use your thumb for feel, just as soon as its about to hit the water use that thumb, you will get further distance.
That’s true but with wind it doesn’t always work out that way.
@@HeySkipper practice thats all it takes, plus I use mono instead of braid.
@@HeySkipperI agree with you. I've used "the new braid" ever since they became available, but also, I've used Baitcasting Reels (with or without a level wind), since the mid 60s! Before 8 strand Power Pro, I used Braided Dacron, with a mono bumper. My main forte' is Pacific Salmon and Steelhead (genus Oncorhynchus). Thanks again!!
Yeah like a baitcaster
I’m not sure if I need or want a conventional reel setup but maybe. & If so,from what you can tell about the action of the rod,balance and all ,really like the way you did yours. The spinning reel is nice! I need one of those in 2500-3000 range for a new 8ish feet 1 piece rod that I haven’t found yet. Been fishing a St.Croix (sp?)7’8 and a fin nor for a look time. Not retiring that quite yet but it’s getting tiered. Have some pretty major purchases to make soon. Have to shop around. It’s been a long time. The salted bait is a good idea. Going to make a batch. Hopefully the secret strips on the bottom will remain a secret. Clue…will be from the bottom filet of a master of ambushing it meals. Some whole small shrimp and other size /pieces among other things. Should be interesting to see how it goes. Take care.
You should try an Alvey surf champion now that they're available over in America now.
Tight lines from down under 👍
We have them in South Africa too; for many years!, and Alvey bait suction/"prawn" pumps! 🙂
"Catch a big one!"
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Glad you brought your mom and dad very nice !!
The Akios 656 gets amazing distance and is good for fish up to about 40 lb. Other good ones are the Penn Fathom II and Squall II Casting Specials, and the Avets -- the SX and MXL with magnetic braking (MC)
Gotta come out to Hawaii! Hit the warm waters with your ohana, let me know I’ll give you folks the special tour!! 😎😎😎🎣🎣🎣
I like this new idea, catch ,clean ,cook awesome !
Hey Skipper, why not try a shimano or dawia surf reel in comparison to your casting reel and see what results get.
If you use braid on your spinning reel , you can get very similar results without the worry if getting a birds nest👍
Looks like fun guys! Also looked like a beautiful day on a beach. I have to find a beach that’s not crowded to go back to beach fishing!
Hmm where is your favorite place?
Total beginner here in Thailand so will check out your e-books
I've had a 15' spinning, casting and Alvi sidecast .
I like to use plugs or lures.
I think they are about the same .
I am currently using a casting reel .
For the surf use the alvey side cast reel it is a really big thing in Australia and alot of people use them for tailor/ bluefish
For big fish I always use reels! If you cn master yourself how to use them you are a winner! No spinning reel can beat a multi reel when it comes to dragg and the amount of force you can give them!
Always love your videos bro! Fyi here in NY what you call a bluefish we call a snapper, we dont call them blues until they are atleast 20inch or better..
Nice Casting!!Goooooood fishing video👏👍🏼🎣
Awesome beach fishing + catch and cook is the best!!
In the U.K. we call them fixed spool reels not spinning reels, spinning reels are a specific type of fixed spool & the conventional reel we call multipliers, you can but the multipliers with built in level wind.
Hey man I met you tonight at the skyway and I gotta say it was awesome meeting you.I wouldn’t mind fishing with you one day and learn a few things from a pro if your around again anytime let me know.
While at the OBX, I use my spinners left and right and the casting rod to play with as well. Still steep in the learning curve.
Like your vids.
daiwa saltist 20s and 30s with 12-13 foot rod for all my surf bait rods. 10 foot spinners for lures and spoons in s.texas
I did not see it mentioned, but when trying to cast a heavier bait/sinker on a spinning real as far as you can, your fingers take a beating. Mine used to get cut up by the nylon. Thats the incentive to switch to a multiplying real. Much better option to cast a heavier bait far.
Been casting conventional fifty-some years. You share tips, here's a few for you, if you like; Ditch the magnetic braking and clutch the spool with your thumb instead. Like the difference between car's automatic or manual transmissions, the manual gives a more precise measure of control. And, if you rotate the rod 90 on it's longitudinal axis so the spool is riding on one bearing, rather than both, you get more distance for the duration of the cast. Sans level wind mechanisms (good for you), thumb alone will do it. Might be more comfortable. On the rare occasions when I do get a backlash. it's minor. Then, there's always some dork standing right behind me saying, 'You see, that's why I use spinning gear.'. But he's not even fishing today. He's only there for commentary purposes. Uhh, okay...
hey skipper, use schedule 40 pvc in 5 foot sections as rod holders, cut the end at an angle, get them about half way in the sand... strong enough to fight sharks from them, wont get your nice expensive combos yanked into the water if a big un pulls hard. great vids as always. God bless
I do the same too. Here in Australia, it's 50mm pvc conduit. Cut the end at 50° about 1 metre long pushed half way into the sand. I've hooked sharks on my 12' rod and they haven't pulled my rig down yet. Cheep nd effective.
@@badass.bob1 yes sir, i use the slightly smaller diameter because most of my blanks are built for jetties and rocks, no bulky butt ends and small conventional reels on long rigs , i build my 50w rod this way too, ive pulled these pvc pieces with my full body weight and they hold tight. australlia is a dream fishing destination for me. im in s.texas
I never worry about my rod holders. I use strong metal ones (as well as some pvc ones too) and as long as your drag is loose enough and you can hear the clicker going off that rod ain't goin nowhere
My favorite chunking set up is conventional. Effortless casts to 85 yards give or take. What a game changer. Awesome video!!
Best way to begin using a conventional set up for me was spooling it with 15-20lb mono till I got very comfy.
I can’t wait to chunk in the fall!
Level wind
I use both spinning tackle and casting tackle thanks
Might of missed it.. did you cook that fish or ate it raw? Thanks skipper👌🏻
My guy said ceveche !! enjoyed the vod dude cheers from Az lines tight bruh 👌😎
What size sinker were you using? Did you tie on a shock leader to your main line? My understanding is that the shock leader will prevent the main line from snapping due to the load during the cast. The shock leader should be the length of the rod and should rap around the reel five times. The strength of the leader should be 1/10 the strength of the weight your casting. If your casting 8 oz. You should have an 80lb shock leader. If you have 12lb test line on your reel but your casting 6 ozs (weight plus the bait) you should use a 60 lb test Shock leader.
I was thinking the same thing. When they really start casting it's going to become a safety thing for the people around them if they're not using a shock leader.
Use good quality mono line at least 20 to 25 pound test should have no problem with casting
Love the catch and cook! More of those vids!
I use both in the UK. This wasn't a fair test. In the UK a beachcasting fixed spool reel is about twice the size of yours! It will cast about the same distance as a multiplier reel.
I can use a conventional tackle but I am more comfortable with spinning tackle thanks 🐟
I have a abu garcia ambassader 10,000 . Never learned how to control overspin on the spool. Gave up . I use my penn 704 and 706
might be the two best and best value spinning reals made today. easy to maintain, not sealed but no bearings to get toasted by salt water & sand , of is the one or two bearings, i forget? They are dead reliable...guys have been fishing them for about 40-50yrs ....my new SaltX 6000 is great but all those seals are just fragile which leaves bearings vulnerable once a seal blows out. but it's sure fun to work on...kinda. :p
Using a rod with a short butt and a conventional reel will increase ease of casting and distance. Thanks for good vids
Just make sure it's a casting rod with a short butt. Guides are different for both types and each type is meant to bend a different way
If you replace the guides on a spinning rod you can cast alot further, what I mean by that is the the first guide needs to be the same diameter as the spool. You might have to have it custom done, but if you're looking for more distance on a spinning set up it's totally worth it.
I've never heard of this but it's sounds like it might help. I'm about to try this 😆
@@bobbyesterly I should be a little more clear if you or anyone else wants to try this, and it does work. When I say "first guide" I mean the one closest to the reel, and the rest of the guides should tapper according. I just wanted to be clear.
Love when our community responds and helps eachother! Thanks for the tip
@@HeySkipper my pleasure Skipper, I love sharing surf fishing tactics, and I love learning from other people's experiences. I have learned some cool stuff from you, and people from all around the world.
@@HeySkipper One of these days I have a feeling I will see you on the OBX.
Tight lines, and let’s see some M terps, while you’re down here in the sunshine state !
Wanna see the keys and jumbo shrimp go ?
I used baitcasters in freshwater for bass. It made using a saltwater conventional baitcaster reel easy.
Can't beat the baitcasters for more control, I feel
Baitcasters are killer for low end pier fishing or speckled trout and whiting. I have 2 baitcasters I use for saltwater
It’s cool that you still use conventional, however I question how practical bait caster reels are when spinning reels are less expensive and simple, without all the bird nest headaches, and I contend spinning reels are more versatile and will preform better when used with a variety of weights when properly set up with braid. Though conventional have more power, spinning reels can move line in faster than conventional, unless you are willing to spend big bucks. Perhaps the biggest nod to spinning over bait casting is, no matter how much you spend on one, they do not (and cannot) offer water sealed components like the spinning reels. Ultimately, I think it comes down to preference. Both will get the job done. To me, it’s like my motorcycle. I own a retro. New modern bikes generally have better performance, and often at a lower price, however I like the look and feel of my old school bike. It’s what I am comfortable with and enjoy. I could be wrong, but it seems it’s much the same feeling for those who choose baitcasters over spinning reels. Thanks for the videos !
A trick I learned when casting a conventional real is is to tie surgical tubing Around the rod handle and use it To pressure thumb against the real For friction and farther Cass Also after a while your thumb will start to Develop blisters From repeated casting So that surgical tubing really helps
I use an archery thumb protector.
I like your videos. You are very Knowledgeable. I have a small Garcia reel that I bird nested real bad but once I learned how to set it and use my thumb for the brake much happier. It does have the bar that goes back and forth when reeling in the line.
That looks very good with all the veg. Even looks like you put some Avocado too~~mmm
A helpful hint when surf fishing or pier fishing a conventional reel is WET it down before making the 1st cast :)
I have a Penn Level Wind trying it out this weekend!
You cant cast as far with a level wind
@@jacksonthorne4359 Let’s see!
Your right take the level wind off no where ne’er the same distance to none level wind
Levelwind slow you down big-time.
Here is SA we find that big spinning(grinder) reels cast much further than conventional ( multiplier) reels. I recommend you watch the SA youtube channel Asfn fishing to see the different techniques to cast. btw here in SA we don't use magnets to slow the reel.
So you are saying spinning reels cast furthest??
Sorry to break it to you, conventional reels cast way further.
I use a couple of ABU ambassadeur reels 5000 for light work & a 7000 for large catfish & gar in the Mississippi river
I use both " depending on the scenario in the situation and location, but I grew up casting a 4/0 penn the key to no bird nesting" ( thumb drag ) before it hits the water, I think that's why most people use a spinning reel, setting the spool drag helps the noobs
You should get a diawa saltist blue cause it is the best reel its something like the conventional reel but better you should try it out and I would suggest the 30 ha size
I want to see you use a Alvey reel ....keep up the great vids you two
I totes PEEPED that technique!! 😸
I shall eat many a fish NAO!!
Ocean fishies, here I come!
Nice video. Two things I gotta' try now are conventional gear & seviche (spelling?).
Don’t know if you still have that combo but if you do check out Nick at brake away he has a thumb holder for the reel it’s like a rubber band and let’s you put more pressure on the reel for further casting also if you do a pendulum cast you might get out to the 3rd gut
Good catch! The fish are nice too (: y'all are cute!
Especially Erin
What’s the good rod setup for fluke ? In the $200 price range
Skipper who makes that reel ?
Like it !!!
You don't have to manually even up the line when you reel it in. If the line starts to bunch up in one area, the line will automatically start to move towards an area with less line. Once in a while you might have to help it shift to a low line area with your left thumb, but it is not necessary to lay the line down perfectly evenly. In small baitcasting reel, they have a level wind, but it adds unnecessary friction for surfcasting.
URGENT: Not sure if I caught what you did, but sounds like you tightened the tensioner knobs/spool end caps in order to add braking to the spool before the cast. If that's the case, you don't want to be doing that with these conventional reels. It puts direct pressure on the left bearing and can damage it over time! Tensioner knobs should be loosened just enough so that there is a little side play in the spool.
UPDATE: Should say, the above is the case for conventional reels like Akios with ball bearings and free-floating spools. There are some Ambassadeurs that look similar externally but the spindle is attached to the spool. It's probably fine to use the spool tensioner knob for braking on those reels.
He has no idea what he's doing with a conventional reel he shouldn't even have posted this video
If the bearings do get damaged, no big deal. You can get a new set from $15 to $30.
It's called the levelwind. And yes, you have to guide the line across the spool. Nice video bud! Keep em coming!
In levelwinds you don't have to guide the line across the spool, that's an open face reel
Hey there skipper i always watching your videos. Watching from the philipines. Nice i like your spinning reel stella 5000series its beautiful
hey skipper is a chef too awesome. bon apetite
I like your technique, very easy, thanks Brother 👍
Good fishing 🎣 Man 🤗💕💕💕
Met you at the pier in St. Pete I subscribed like I said I would but it was really awesome to meet you
What’s up man! Great to meet you too and thanks for the sub 👍🏼 you catch any good ones last night?
@@HeySkipper I hooked into a couple but no luck definitely going back soon
need to fill that spool big guy...you can be a lot more aggressive on the cast once you get the hang of a conventional.
i never have used a magnetic conventional it will be interesting to see your take. I fished them from surf for 0ver 40yrs and stil get the occasional birds nest. but i think you'l like t for getting out past the 2nd bar at least. you should be able to get at least 140-150yds out there once you get confidence to dial back the mag brake. fyi all conventionals have mechanical breaking to adjust that works the same way. it looks like the mag is easier to learn...???
Always wet the line on a baitcast before hook and bait or use fresh water to wet the line before casting.
Finally, I see you using multiplier reel. Pros n cons on both to be honest. One is not better or worst than the other. Loosen up that spool so there is a slight play, set mag to max...risk is just birdnest.. that's the fun... 😁😁😁
I cut my teeth on conventional reels as a kid. My first reel was a Penn Jigmaster 500. It doesn’t have any magnets, but I can still cast it a country mile without birds nests. That being said, when I later started using spinning reels, I had to change the hand crank to the other side on all my reels. Winding with my left hand just doesn’t feel natural to me. That’s what happens when you grow up with conventional reels.
Do you tap on the aquarium glass?
Hammering the rod holders into the sand with a mallet is the same thing.
Try the UK style Surf rods like Zziplex or Century rods, they are more expensive and idk if they sell those over there, i have used an Akios 14 foot (fixed spool/spinning reel) and Zziplex 13 foot (multiplier/conventional), these type of rods, you would usually use a reel down position for multiplier/conventional reels (basically reel closer to the butt section).
I realize I’m resurrecting a necro thread here, but any chance you’re going to attend any casting tournaments in TX or on the east coast?
Being a solid caster can really pay dividends when fishing for pompano, reds & a few others.
My classic Stella! 👌
I always say with baitcasters you need to lob lit. Throw like you are throwing at the sky above were you are trying to hit.
Bro those akios are so dope. Gonna get one this year. Other than that I recommend penn squalls or daiwa saltists
I got a Squall 12, older model tho, i think its the OG squall (not Squall II)