How to Cast an Open Faced - Conventional "Bait Caster" Fishing Reel
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Many people prefer using spinning reels over conventional simply because the conventional reels seem too complicated to cast without getting into a big backlash. I do agree that it takes a little work to learn how to use them but I am convinced if you watch this video and put a little practice into it, you will never regret learning how to operate this very useful and effective style of fishing reel.
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I just bought a brand new conventional reel, went to RUclips and typed in how to cast one of these reels, and the first video to pop up is from my favorite you tube channel. Thankyou guys once again for teaching me something new. 😎🤘
Oh wow!!! That’s awesome!!! Rock on bro!!!! May the Lord bless you with massive fish!!! 😁
I definitely put ALL my money on conventional reels. They are more monofilament friendly than spinning reels. Monofilament is the best line but the screwy mechanism on a spinning reel twists and tangles the line. Also when you cast a spinning reel the line comes off in a clumpy way which induces lots of drag thereby reducing distance and accuracy
100% bro!
Braid 4 Life. I’ve hung 120lb mirrors on a wall using 65lb braid. Shit can’t be broken unless hung up on oysters. I’ve yanked tree trunks out of the water hook still in tact.
Gonna put a heavy disagree, braid is better than mono in nearly every conceivable way. The only serious negative about braid is that really sensitive and observant fish can detect braided line a little better than mono, but once you get above 20lb line that changes entirely.
I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well ruclips.net/user/postUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.
Let’s go!!!!
Appreciate this so much bro. I found a couple reels of this style cheap for catfishing, wanted the click drag but never knew how they worked. Once I've got them cleaned & greased I'll be outback throwing a water bottle for practice. Showing a kid can do it, sadly was just the push I needed to stay with these old reels vs buying a new one
That’s awesome!!! I’m so glad you were encouraged by the video. Lmk how it goes
Thank you very much for teaching me how to do this, I figured their had to be a way to do it with a conventional Penn real without my line going crazy...and you got great kids, helping their dad.
Sweet. I’m glad it worked out for you. I do have amazing kids
Love the kids helpin make the video! Awesome Dad!
Cool!! Thanks for the compliment! Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing bro can’t wait to pick up my first commercial real hopefully soon
IGUANA MAN yeah buddy. Wanna see you get right with a monster fish !!
Reel*😷🤙
Great vid, I share the same passion for these reels and surf fishing (from Australia) have subbed. Gotta love hearing the spool rev when you hit a nice cast and playing a hard fighting fish is one hell of a rush on these reels!
James Calley 100% bro. Thanks for the support!!!
I love it when people take the kids with them and they seem to enjoy it too, i myself take my 5 year old daughter with me, and she's been with me since she was 2. :D
It’s the best!!!! The kids have had a wonderful childhood with lots of great memories on the beach
Getting my first baitcaster today, thanks for the tutorial! The other how-to's showed a lot about setting up the reel to cast, but didn't even cover the most important part, casting lol. I don't like the idea of bird nesting but I'm sure over time it becomes second nature.
Yes sir! It’s like riding a bike!!!! Just don’t get discouraged in the beginning. It will feel cumbersome for a little while
Great video. I got a killer deal on some conventional reels and I'm not used to them. Now I feel more confident
Fantastic!!!! Practice, practice, practice and you be slinging them things like crazy!!!! Thanks for watching
Great vid, I see you are primarily sidearmed as you indicate not over the top. I think sidearm works for me throwing live bait if I have room. Seems like less shock to the bait. However, I always throw over the top when tossing metals and plugs, side by side with other guys in a blitz on the beach. So, I'd recommend guys learn both styles but your cast and the kids are A+! Thx for sharing
Good point bro. Thanks for watching!!!!
+1; I never use side arm casting except for trees or skipping; that's for baseball golf and other silly things. The overhand cast will always outperform the side arm. Look at where the bait is at release? It's overhead and not coming up off the ground. And yes you won't snag the guy next door or out of the back of the boat. I am stopping fishing with my best friend out of the back of his boat cause I am tired of watching his bait whiz past my face or wrapped around my rod. I could use other colorful examples but this is not the place. Tight lines.
Thanks for the video. I just got my first conventional(penn squall 2 casting special) and oh boy was the first day a rough one. I wasn’t even aware when buying the reel that backlash was such an issue with these. After about 30 birds nests, I finally gave up out of frustration. I did spool it with braid, so I think I’ll swap it out for mono today to make it a bit more forgiving. Hopefully using these tips tonight, I’ll have some success. Cheers!
Don’t give up!!! You’ll be glad you stuck with it. Just start slow and don’t try to overdo it. Once you get the rhythm of your reel, you’ll be casting far!!!!
Ah, braid is easier than mono.
Just subscribed !! . That was the best explanation of how to cast a Casting reel. Thx
@@vincentfoti1078 fantastic!!! I hope it helped
Best instruction on conventional reel on RUclips. Subscribed & like. Thanks bro!
Wow!!! Thanks for the glowing compliment bro. Glad you liked!!!
I agree great video thanks
Thanks dude! Today my birthday and my girlfriend bought me a Penn and can’t wait to use it tomorrow
Nice! Let me know how it turns out!
Those videos are very curious for me because in Europe we don't use such types of conventional reels for casting, but for trolling or vertical jigging. The ones we use for casting are open front conventional reels with magnetic or centrifugal brakes such for example the Daiwa SL20SH or the famous Daiwa 7ht, but also reels like the good ole Abu Garcia 6500 CT Mag...
We also use different types of rods for that type of reels, for example the very renowned Daiwa HPBs
Good info bud. Thanks
@@watchyourlip3209 if you know what I mean, expecially in Italy but also in other european countries with an outlet on the mediterranean sea, we use a surfcasting form that is the mediterranean adaptation of english style (Neil Mckellow, Paul Kerry). In a nutshell, because tides arent sufficient for moving the bottom, we wait for frontal wind that creates strong waves.
Got a conventional reel to try something other than spinning reels, I watched this video before buying to get an idea of what to do, and while I am nowhere near as talented with it as you are, I was able to cast without destroying the reel and the few backlashes I got were very easy to undo. If it were not for experienced fisherman making educational videos such as this one, my reel would probably look like a cast net lol.
Fantastic!!! Put your time in and the casts will go farther and easier. Backlash will always occur from time to time but less and less as experience is gained. Glad you enjoyed the video
Great instructional video. Answered every question and more. Thank you.
Awesome!!! You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching
👍🏻best thing to learn for all ages because there will be a time u need todo this 👍🏻
michael shramko yeah man. Gotta teach them that level winding!!!!!
Thanks, for a must watch video to learn to do serious surf fishing. Would like to see you rig up a dead bait and launch it over the horizon.
Thanks brotha!!!!! I have some vids where we do just that!
Great video. Awesome info. You're an excellent teacher!! Was given a Penn 10 just today. Can't wait to pair it up and take her to the water.
Hey thanks bud. I hope you get yourself into some good fish!!! Enjoy!
Went out today with 12' rod and Penn squidder, 30lb line (Nassau sound, Jacksonville, FL), very frustrating day, many birds nests. Came home and got on RUclips to try to figure out what I'm doing wrong, Thanks for your vid. If I cast overhand or try the up and out way, the same thing happens, at 80 -100 yards something is catching the line on the spool before it hits the water...then I get a massive backlash (birds net) or sometimes the line breaks and I lose everything. When I first got it, I practised casting on a soccer field and decided to mag it, so I put 2 mags and 2 washers. I think after watching your video i need to tighten the ball bearing (I've kept the spool loose) and keep my thumb on the spool (I let go after I cast).
A B hey bud. Sorry you had the frustrating experience. I’d try tightening the ball bearing at first and see what happens. I used to practice on a big field as well but sometimes the line can get frayed. Lmk how it goes
AB, Hope to see you out on Amelia sometime soon...I'll be easy to find, look for the guy clearing the birds nest's out of his reel after every cast! LOL I'm like you a newbie to conventional reels on the surf! Keep the faith brother, it only gets better! Jim
@@jamesw337 KEEP THE FAITH BROTHA!!!! You can do it!
Greetings coming from Indonesia, Aru Islands, Maluku Province, Greetings from fellow anglers, Healthy greetings and Strike greetings, and thank you for the information about your fishing equipment, Senior.
Alright bro!!! Welcome to the channel!!!! Thanks for watching. I hope you catch some bugs ones!
@@watchyourlip3209 hank you, senior, your knowledge is very valuable for us beginners
@@watchyourlip3209 always welcome to Strik
You need stronger leader line. 50lb with 5 Oz. You can then use lighter main line for more distance.In uk this is rule for safety. However if you are not powercasting you are probably ok.
anthony wilson yeah - could be, most of the fish we hunt are under 100 yards from shore. Snook, tarpon, permit and jacks all swim within 25 yards from the beach
Here in the uk ...
Rule of thumb..for your shock leader is..
10lb for every 1oz that you cast...
Me myself i use 20 foot ...60lb shockleader down to 15lb main line..👍
I use both conventional and spinning reels while surf fishing, but in my opinion, conventional reels are just funner. They definitely require a bit more attention to technique, but it's very satisfying once you get it down. Much easier to throw heavy lead with conventional as well. Spinning reels definitely have their time and place, but if you spend a lot of time at the surf chucking bait, a conventional reel or two should definitely be in your arsenal.
Well said. I totally agree
Yes indeed. I have 10. All are excellent on the beach.
Nice vedio nice tutorial new friend here watching from dammam Saudi thanks for sharing my friend godbless all your family bonding fishing
Wow!! Hello feom the other side of the world!!! Thanks for watching.
@@watchyourlip3209 by the way I'm from Philippines friend always support your vedio
@@katropafishingadventure6610 oh got it! Thank you my friend!!!
@@watchyourlip3209 welcome friend
I’m moving to Florida and I’ll miss my friends but the fishing is great
Frostizz oh yeah - all your friends will wind up moving down here too!!! Welcome to the Sunshine State!!!
Hi- I inherited my dad’s old Penn reels. He had a 505HS super jigmaster, Senator 1/0, and a Leveline 350M. The last two have a 3:1 gear ratio. I’m thinking of using these with crab snares to catch dungenous crab. One question I had is regarding use of the bail(?) lever. I noticed that before you cast, you moved the lever to have a free bail. After completing the cast, do you move the lever back to “lock” the bail and retrieve line? Thanks!
Cool!! Enjoy your dad’s old reels!!!! They are work horses!!!
Yes - to retrieve the line, you flip the “bail” lever forward to “lock” position and then start reeling
I just got ryobi alert ss600 (JDM) from my Japanese friend and try cast it and failed now learning from this video
Cool let me know how it goes
Good video I used one for the first time a few days ago
Nice! How did it go for you?
If you use shock leaders you'll have less snaps also less issues using a shock leader on top of braid
Yeah buddy. Shock leaders are needed
Great job Dad. The kids are very cute.
Thanks so much!!!!!! They’re amazing
I bought a lews laser xl and i was so worried about casting and backlash... so far i havent had a single issue with casting but working the drag.. baitclicker.. and overall adjustment im having trouble. the owners manual was just a diagram of how to take the thing apart and i have no idea how to set my drag or bait clicker once i have my bait out and on the bottom... bout to switch back to spinning.
There are two drag systems. One is the ball bearing nob. It tightens or loosens the spool. Adjust this on how easy you want line to come off the reel when in free spool.
The drag system (either a star drag or lever drag) is set for how tight you want it when in gear fighting the fish. Adjust appropriately to line pound test.
I wouldn’t give up quite yet!!!!
@@watchyourlip3209 this is EXACTLY what i needed to hear! This makes so much sense i’m not sure how i didn’t work out that the small knobs were my drag setting for free spool 😅
Great video thanks really enjoyed it
Awesome! Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Do you have a video on how to add a new line to a brand new open reel
We actually have been meaning to make a video like that. It’s on the “to do list”
@@watchyourlip3209the bait store showed me how to do so on my 1st conventional reel. I overthought it for sure. Very easy in fact. Especially with a guide for the line. I couldn’t find a video anywhere other than attaching a new line to a previous line. Nothing for straight from the store. Love the channel btw. I definitely think a video like that will get a ton of views since there’s very few of them out there that I could find that didn’t have a pov view.
First time with a conventional reel here. Brother, what is the buttom on your left hand reel side?.
Hey there. Welcome to the wild world of birds nests!!!! 🪺 😛
I believe it is the clicker mechanism. It allows for a sound to be made as line exits the spool
Thanks , Ser 👍
you're very welcome
Hay bud love this video its great have you ever fished with a penn 113 h befor thanks
No man. I haven’t. How does it cast? Thanks for watching
Don't know was hoping you could shed some light on this thanks
I know im a little late to this vid but i found an old one in my garage, and it has metal line on it? Its a 309 penn , I live no where near an ocean, i live in manitoba. Just wondering if it would work in a realy deep lake?
Wow! Interesting. What would you fish for in the lake with a set up like that?
It’s likely Stainless steel wire used for trolling. The wire will get a lure or bait down quite deep for lake trout or salmon. Also used in the salt water boat fishing to catch striped bass and bluefish
Great video thanks for making it simple
Awesome!!! You’re very welcome
Aloha from Maui....we cast between 150 to 180 yards. I would recommend to any and all to watch videos on Ulua fishing casting. Stay safe.😷🤙
Dang man. That’s awesome
I'm new to beach/surf fishing and am leaning towards getting one of these conventional reels. Either that or i was thinking of getting an Alvey sidecaster reel. Neither of which i have had any experience with.The question i have is, will I be able to operate this conventional reel at night time? or will that be too difficult?
Welcome to surf fishing!!! Yes. I use mine at night. It just takes some getting used to in order to time it out when to stop the spool from spinning. Practice! Practice! Practice!!
Informative. Thank you for this video.
You got it bro. Hope it helps
Do you like conventional or spinning for inshore, and why do you like either or
I take a lot of people fishing that have never touched a fishing pole before so we use spinning reels a lot because it’s easier for the newbies to operate. But for distance casting from the beach, jetty or piers, or bridges, I like conventional. Better control, more distance
General rule of thumb is 10lb of test for each ounce of weight. So if you're using 30lb test mainline use a 60lb shock leader to avoid crack offs
what's the pros and cons of a level wind? I'm just getting into these big rods and reels
I don’t like buying reels that have the level wind mechanism on it. It’s cumbersome and they break real easy and it limits your casting ability for the larger ones especially. I much prefer to do the level wind myself using my thumb.
I just bought a conventional and this helped so much thank you
Fantastic!!! I’m so glad it helped. Go catch some fish!!!
Great video love it 🐟
Thanks bro
Hay man great video thanks 😊
No problem 👍 had fun making this video!
I dont know why sometimes when i cast with a little power while the sinker is in the air my line starts lifting off the spool and sometimes it gets tangled. I use my thumb to keep the line lifting under control but it doesnt always work. Gonna go practice today i got 3 different mono lines to test. I want to see if one of them is more forgiving.
Try tightening you ball bearings at first till you get used to it
My visions too poor three times harder to see that hook hit the water….great video love involving your kids that’s definitely what’s up!
Hey bud. Thanks for watching. I’m starting to feel you on the vision thing. It’s been so long fishing with these things that I can sort of “feel it” when the hook hits the water.
Our channel is probably more about family than it is about fishing. It’s the only way I know how - do this with the kiddos!!! Blessings bro
Thank you for the video!
Youre welcome!
100 yards = 300 feet. Thanks for the video. Very entertaining. Wonder how far you can cast that rod on mars beaches lol
Hey thanks for watching. What’s gravity like on Mars compared to earth? I know there’s no standing water there
Stupid question probably but how does the reel retrieve the line back evenly
With out the the lil guide on the reel like a bass baitcaster
Great question. You have to manually level wind it. I use my left thumb and while reeling in, holding the rod with 4 fingers and palm, the thumb on top moves the line slowly left and right. It’s cumbersome at first but after a while you don’t even realize you’re doing it. Becomes second nature
So u have to do that when your fighting a fish too
You can surf fish in south Florida? What parts? I’ve fished Jax down to Sebastian but the farther south I go the more signs I’ve seen saying “no fishing” or something to that effect
You can fish on most beaches but it’s gotta be after lifeguards leave the beach. Also private beaches are a “go”. You just have to stay down by the water. Lots of times I’ll park in public beach parking and walk into private beach areas and fish there
More comfortable with a spinner. I like a waterproof reel for surf fishing so it’s hands down a spinner. Offshore is definitely where baitcasters shine.
Spinners are definitely more comfy
Yoo what’s up man I was wondering if you know how to cast a conventional reel with braid but without burning my finger if you read this pls give me some tips thx.
Hey bud - That can be tough. If your spool is wet, it will help a little but I would start with tightening your ball baring until you really get a feel for the reel. I burn my thumb from time to time. It's kind of part of the deal when long casting with conventional and braid.
@@watchyourlip3209 thank man
@@sharablellama4476 Try thumbing the outer lip of the spool itself instead of thumbing the line.
I do think that spinning reels with braided line and fluorocarbon leaders has its place in fishing especially In finesse techniques for freshwater bass but when it comes to saltwater fishing it's hard to beat old school Monofilament.
Yeah for sure. I much prefer spinning combos for finesse - inshore in mangroves, back country etc
@@watchyourlip3209 I fish freshwater and occasionally saltwater when I get the chance to visit family in California. most of the time I'm using baitcasting and conventional reels for monster catfish because that's what I primarily fish for. But I also like to fish for panfish on a lighter spinning reel setup with a braid to fluorocarbon leader bottom fishing rig. Of course I'm a multi-species angler so it just depends on what I'm fishing for at the time.
Let’s see the video of that Georgia Boy catching the Jack Crevalle😂💪🙏🏼
Zac Capo haha. It’s coming Zac. I think next week. I’ll actually be in GA next week!!!!
Isn't that Shimano Speedmaster supposed to be a levelwind? Did you remove it?
Nope. Not a level wind. That’s how they come
I noticed your cast is slightly sidearmed of a cast. That's how I cast, completely overhand/overhead always backlashes on me.
100% bro. SideArm is the way to go
When i reel mine in side to side like that it backlashes every time but when I let it reel it however it wants I don’t back lash
QlueIess whatever works bro
Question: do you have to guide the line on the reel if you’re fighting the fish as well? If not why not just curious
Absolutely - you need to level wind as you reel the line back in
17:48 I gotta make some kids now to prepare fishing
That’s funny one of my buddies that’s a deck hand on a boat gave me a deep sea rod I was so excited about it and I did the same thing and bent the rod and I was showing my cousins and niece and she said I hope it breaks and it did hahaha sad day wished they filmed it was pretty funny but now I don’t have a deep sea rod 😢
Dude. What a depressing story!!! Gotta save up and get you another one!
Hay I have a antique Garcia baitcaster but even 20ozs I can't cast it and I have 300lb mono on it what it's rated for
300 lb? Do you mean 30 lb?
I got it try it out when I’m at the beach 🏖
Lmk how it goes!
i’m not worried about backlash, i don’t want to have to move my thumb while reeling
That’s what I’m saying
I feel like it adds a little extra challenge to fishing in general.
2 words stop bitching, you don’t need this type of reel then
@@CharlieRobinson_21 lmaoo sounds like u need some 🐱🐱
I'm not new to using baitcasters I got that down, but I'm new to using these conventional reels, I just bought an off brand & haven't used it yet, my ? is that it doesn't have a magnetic braking system, just free flowing spool, will that result in more birds nest & will I still be able to cast out far without magnetic braking system? I plan on testing/practicing this weekend with the tension knob.
Hey bud. No magnetic breaking system needed. You’ll just need to get used to it. The old penn squiders had no magnets and people casted them a mile!!! Lmk how it goes. Just start slow
@@watchyourlip3209 Thank you bro for taking the time to reply & explain. Fully understood. Yeah I just purchased this conventional reel off Amazon, (Sougayilang conventional reel surf size 50) I just received it this past Sunday and gonna test it out this weekend, I will pair it with 11' casting surf rod. My plan is if I like it & I'm compatible with it, I will invest in a more better type of conventional reel. I'll update once I use it for the day for sure..
You got it. If it doesn’t work out, a Penn Jigmaster is the way to go...
@@watchyourlip3209 Awesome 👍
@@watchyourlip3209 got that right man, I love my old jigmaster. It's older than I am and surely in better condition 🤣
Just wondering, are you left or right handed ? Most of the multiplyer reels I’ve seen have the handle on the right side . Is this because you’re accustomed to reeling with your right hand or is this something that you’ve adapted to ? Thanks and nice video 👍🏼
Thanks Josh. As long as I can remember, I’ve always had the handles on the right side. That’s how they all come out of the box. I’m right handed.
Spinner reels (right handed)have lever on left side, eyes down, reel with left hand, and can usually change lever side. Conventional reels(right handed) have lever on right side, eyes up, reel with right hand, cannot usually change handle side.
On most of my conventional reels I use 20to30 pound test mono
That’s the way to go!
Yep wouldn't change a thing I tie my rig right into my main line no hard ware
Hay dad the kids are awesome a lot of fun
For sure!!! Thanks
Hi I have a question about how do you lubricate your reels what do you use thanks🐟
sure - I have some reel lubricant that i use in gears from time to time but I will spritz with WD40 in between lubing. The best thing to do is rinse reels with fresh water after every use.
I use the green to grease from Penn it looks like it's throwing the grease off I could be wrong but I watched the channel fish your way he uses old oil from his car he has his jigmaster reels for a long time thanks
@@jeffreybabino8161 yeah man. Ive had a few of my shimano speedmasters for almost 20 years. mostly wd40 applications. I know some guys hate WD40 but for quick lube its good.
Sun rise over the ocean. It's not California. We only have sunsets over the ocean.
Looks like Florinda. Florida gets both sunrise and sunset over the ocean (Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico).
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love me some Florida Keys
Im 62, i hope i can learn how to cast my tatula i got a few years ago before i die.
You’re a spring chicken! You got this
Coming from spinning reel.. i figure i would need to try conventional for surf fishing but im not sure whether i should stay left handed (because all spinner reel are left handed) you are casting right handed and it seems more natural to reel with your right hand and use your left thumb to distribute evenly the line.. but this require to switch hands after it lands.. but on a spinning reel, i find it more natural to use the left hand to reel probably because the spining handle makes larger circles and you don't need as much spinning. But im worry about battling a big fish with my left hand if i use right handed conventional.. should i just use those conventional that has auto left and right line distribution? I guess i will have to order a few on amazon and use their refund policy
Well brother, all I can tell you is that the more you practice with it the easier it will become. It does take time so don’t get frustrated. I would start with a jig master from Penn. Not too expensive. Get the right rod and put the right line. Then go down to the beach without plans to fish and just practice. Do that a couple of times and you’ll then start fishing. It’s only a matter of time
@@watchyourlip3209 ordered some random reel called Piscifun Chaos XS Round Reel . But i might also order the pen jigmaster. But i think the pen is a full open reel and you need to use your thumb to evenly roll the line.. other conventional reels do that for you and you donne need to worry about that. As for the rod, i still can't find a 12 feet 3 pieces . 2 pieces 12 feet don't feet my vehicle. I think only 9 feet 2 pieces can.. to fit the trunk i need 3 sections rod if i choose 12 feet rod. As for mono, i went with 20 pounds.. but i think it is too weak, maybe i should use 30 pounds mono?
@@reefgratos2035 the reels that level wind for you are not good for casting. Trust me…. Go with the jig master and learn to level wind with your thumb.
@@watchyourlip3209 thanks for taking your time to answer, there is a guy selling a penn jigmaster. 500 right handed new condition made in usa for $120. And a used one for $80.. he is also selling a penn squidder 140 for $80…. Its all local.. not sure which one to pick for practicing.. ideally, i just one 1 that does it all and will keep forever even when i m good at it
@@reefgratos2035 the squider and the jigmaster are both excellent reels. The squider is a little smaller and maybe a little easier to learn with.
The jigmaster is a bit more beefy though. So if you plan on fishing for big tarpon or jack crevalles - jigmaster would be preferable
Are they brand new? Those sound like prices of new reels. If they are used, just buy new ones. They wouldn’t be much more at all
Very nice presentation, but would be nice to have someone who can record better angle 📐 on the video that you’re showing can see zoom in and zoom out lol good video tho
Cool suggestions. I’ll try and do another one like that! Thanks for watching
U help me a lot.
Awesome. I’m so glad
I been watching RUclips 10 yr. thousand of videos.
Catchy ….. watch ur lips…..
Only found u cause I search "conventional reel"
Yuup I always search "cast, beach fishing, bait, crappie, castanets, pompanos, bass, fishing, fish , fishing, rod , reels, " yuup never heard of u but good content..
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My keyword pompanos…….man what is a permit?
Dude. Thanks for the love man!!!! A permit is a pompano on steroids!!!! We are growing! Thanks to supporters like you! Thanks again
What makes it back lash
Good question. When you cast one of these reels, there is a bar in the middle, called the spool that spins. As the lure and line are going out, it is at the same speed as the spool is spinning. But when the lure or weight hits, the water and the line stops coming out the spool continues to spin unless you stop it. This creates the line on the spool to loosen but the line is not moving any more and it gets all knotted up. The only way to stop it from happening is to stop the spool from spinning with your thumb at the same time. Your lure hits the water.
Idk if anyone is still watching this video, but how do I fight a fish while also using my finger to retrieve the line?
Hey bud. Lots of people watching this one! I use my left hand to hold the rod on the handle just above the reel - and level wind with my thumb as the line is coming in.
@@watchyourlip3209 thanks man!
No problem. It takes some getting used to for sure but once you’ve got it it becomes second nature
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How does it work reeling in with no line guide
It works amazing. You move the line back and forth with your fingers as you reel
What’s the difference between a round baitcaster and a conventiona?
Conventional is a general term for a reel with a spinning spool that you have to control manually. Bait casters are the same but the term is used to describe a small conventional that has a level wind mechanism - common in bass fishing
Do you need a special type of surf rod? Most call them spinning surf rods.?
What type of reel are you going to use and what pound test?
@@watchyourlip3209 Hi, Not sure yet was thinking something like a penn squall or similar
@@Ben-dw8ts Ok cool - I would definitely go with something like a Starr Rod or Crowder Rod. At least 8' - maybe 9 or even 10'. Longer the rod, the more leverage you will have for casting distance and the better you will be able to keep the line above the braking waves. You can probably put like 40 or 50 pound brain on a squall - ask the dude at the tackle shop. I wouldn't go lighter than 30 pound test. Using a 6 oz. pyramid or sputnik weight, you should be able to launch that thing! Good luck! let me know when you get tight!
If you're gonna cast conventional, you need a rod that's designed for a conventional reel. Technically speaking, you could mount a conventional reel on a spinning rod, but that's a bad idea for numerous reasons. The guides on a conventional rod are not only smaller, but they're mounted much closer to the rod to accommodate the lower profile of a conventional reel. For surf applications, conventional rods are usually rated a bit higher for weight than their spinning rod counterparts. If you're throwing 8 'n bait into a heavy surf, conventional is gonna be a much better option. All that being said, it's ultimately about getting the right equipment for the type of fishing you're doing. More often than not, a privately owned tackle shop that's got a good reputation with the locals is gonna be your best source for gear related information.
good stuff new forest uk
Awesome. Welcome to our channel!!!
What’s the reel called
Frostizz there are two. Ones a shimano speedmaster - which I do not believe is made anymore. The other is a Penn jigmaster. They are like 100$
Watch Your Lip you know any far casting conventional reels under a 100 if possible
Frostizz well - I’d hit offer up - if you’re fishing salt water you will want a good solid reel that won’t rust out on you after the first few times you use it
Watch Your Lip oh ok
Hi great video and helped allot, I just got a penn 285 Multiplier, its a great reel but birds nests are a nightmare. I struggle to keep the thumb on the reel because the bars are in the way. I've taken the back two bars off now in the hope of seeing more line, should the line be wet to practice and can the thumb touch the reel edge rather than the line itself.
Great video and to see your kids participating in your hobby, I'm hoping my boys will follow on and give it a try with me this summer beach fishing 👍 Atb from the UK. 😁
quisiera obtener explicacion en espanol por favor gracias.
I got a Penn senator 4 o can I fish of piers and jettis with it
Absolutely!!!
@@watchyourlip3209 so it's able to be casted and I have to guide it when there's a fish on to or just when I reel it in with nothing I couldn't cast it yet bro
@@feralgoat3771 yes. They can be casted. It takes lots of practice though. It also depends on what kind of rod you have. If you have a boat rod on your 4/0 then casting from the pier will be tough.
And always level wind when retrieving your line whether you have a fish or just reeling back in
Rad!
Sweet!
What weight is good for 65lb braid
Ohh. It also would depend on the rod you’re using. 65 lb braid can handle more weight but it might start causing problems for the rod
@@watchyourlip3209 what rod should I use?
What rod weight and length should I use?
@@andrewsilva4357 what reel do you have??
I'd love to try one but I've just never seen one that didn't backlash even occasionally, maybe one day they'll invent one that won't
Dude. Start slow and just practice. Once you get the hang of it you’ll never go back
@@watchyourlip3209 So when I made my first comment 3 months ago roughly I took your advice and tried one. Now just 3 months later I own 3 and gave away my spinning reels. Appreciate the video it really helped me out man.
Over a year later & I now exclusively use them & own 11 lol
The short rod butt is hurting you on push pull. Your casting distance would improve. Tight lines mate
Yes sir!! Thanks!! We use the short rod-Butts because we use these on boats for bottom fishing as well. Kind of a dual purpose. Long rod butts definitely help with casting distance
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Dood use a shock leader you would want it 50 or 60 pounds then you can throw 8 to 12 ounce weights and I for the beach will tie 15 to 20 feet leader for the pier 30 feet
It isn't only the backlash that keeps me from ever using a conventional rod on the surf - it's the fact that in order for me to get optimal casting performance, the conventional reel cannot have a line guide and I have to manually guide the line onto the spool on retrieve. This is especially annoying if I happen to be fighting a fish at the time. No thanks.
I get it but when you get used to it, it’s second nature to level wind 1000% would never go back
There's much more to using a revolving spool reel than meets the eye.
Wow! Been fishing these reels for 30 years - caught untold amount of fish and never been hurt or hurt anyone else…. But there’s always more to learn…
@@watchyourlip3209 Sorry to have posted such a reply, it was out of frustration, it's now edited.
In terms of safety, the payload yer throwing MUST have a shock leader on the main line, where for every ounce of weight the shock leader needs at least a minimum of 10lbs breaking strength. It is Extremely easy to break even 30lb line on a strong cast with only a 4oz payload. Since the payload is inclusive bait plus weight, it really pays to go no less than a 50lb shock leader that needs to be long enough to wind 6-8 times around the spool, not counting the drop used off the rod tip. With a 10ft surf rod, this will mean about 30ft of shock leader. Shock leaders are mandatory requirements for tournament casting for distance.
There are a number of good knots to tie mainline mono (typically 10lbs to 20lbs) to shock leader mono, this is my favorite - i.imgur.com/LUkkC5w.png - this is a small but very strong knot that will easily pass through rod guides.
An open faced reel is a fixed spool reel, which is a spinning reel. The reel used in this video is a conventional reel, or multiplier, or revolver, or casting reel or bait casting reel.
Most modern revolving spool reels have at least two or three adjustments = 1. The spool freeplay, which is a knob on the gear side plate or knobs on both the gear plate and end plate. It's only job is to center the spool within the frame (cage) of the reel. It is NOT a spool braking mechanism and if used as such the spool's spindle (the shaft going through the spool) and/or the spool bearings will become toast in short order. 2. Centrifugal friction brake blocks (2 to 6) on the spool that can be activated or removed to adjust the amount of spool control depending on payload weight, casting force, and wind. 3. Magnetic brake(s) within the reel that are external knob controlled. Magnetic eddy currents will force a metal (aluminum) spool to slow down in a friction less manner.
The most important part of surfcasting is casting technique. After that comes the rod, the line, and lastly the reel.
The above is about 1/10th percent of what one needs to know about casting revolvers for fish or distance ... or both.
@@rfdsrd cool. Thanks for all the info bud. I’ll look into it. I launch 100+ yards and catch all the fish Florida has to offer in that distance. I’m always down for better techniques. Tight lines
@@watchyourlip3209 At 76yo I can't throw like I used to but have no problem doing an easy cast to 450ft, but I struggle to get 500ft and it's not worth the pain. 😆 Watch some of the casting vids by Tommy Farmer, a simple aerial Hatteras cast could get you well past 100yds to where the fishies are playing - ruclips.net/video/GupE5SD1Pps/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/3xagHWTyAq4/видео.html - load with 17lb to 20lb main line, you'll cast further and still be safe with a 50lb shocker.