Great info! Really enjoying my Nisi filters after your recommendation a few years back. I found it funny though that someone who carries a D850 into the Drakensberg was comparing / concerned about weight 😜.
😂 Still carrying the D850. As I mention towards the end...I'm going to stick with the V7 (and a second V6 holder) for the time being. I borrowed the FS ND kit from Hougaard Malan as I have been getting a lot of questions from local photogs about the differences (they like the fact that it's cheaper).
I really wish NiSi had created a V7 holder that snapped on to the Swift adaptor ring. I also wish they would explain why they chose suction over magnets. I still like magnets better, as they seem to allow for thinner filters.
While doing the video I was thinking about that. It's possible something along those lines will appear (maybe?) In terms of the magnets. It might be a toss-up between legal issues (probably unlikely) and that the pressure mount is more solid. I'm not sure. The pressure mount does work well though.
I really wish Nisi had got the magnetic filter path for the Swift system. The idea of having to push/pull the filter when you want to keep a stable camera during a time bracket shoot seems highly problematic. What has you experience shown>
@@craigozancin the magnetic systems are really quick and easy. If there’s a downside it’s that they have the potential to be knocked off (side impact in particular) but basically you just have to be careful when using them. I think (just an educated guess here as Nisi are silent on this) that the stability issue is why they’ve avoided magnets so far. I agree about the stability pushing and pulling. I would not use the swift system if I had to change filters between images to be used in a blend. V7 for that.
I don’t think you can use lens hoods with either I’m afraid (certainly not with the V7 and ai don’t have any that work with the Swift). Or at least it won’t work with the majority of lens hoods. It’s one of the problems with filter systems in general. Lee used to have it’s own add on bellows lens hood, and of course if you’re using filters with a cine setup you’d likely have a matt box with shade.
Helpfull Informations , but raised a question. For long exposure photography, is a ND Grad needed? To me thats the only caveat of the circular filters, or is there a work around in post? Thanks.
@@abacab1701 No, if you can live without grads then you don’t need to use the square filter system. There is a workaround in post: shoot for exposure blends and of course out modern sensos are so good that it’s often possible to shoot for the highlights and have enough information to open up the shadows.
Hi James. In theory yes, you could do away with the vignetting issue, but infuriatingly Nisi do not make adapters for the 95mm down to 82mm or smaller. So if you want to go this route you would have to buy step-up rings for the adapters (which is a hack). The 95mm set comes with 95 and 86mm adapter rings. However, there is a internal thread to the 82mm adapters that is 85mm....so in theory you can use the 82mm adapters as step-up rings to the 95mm system.
@@emilvonmaltitz Thanks, Emil! Ok…ouff, got it…well…point for the square filters or even the (much more expensive) Kase magnetic filters. Last question - with bracketing and digital shot blending being so easy these days, are graduated ND filters necessary any more?
@@jameskezman That's a good question. Digital sensors are so flipping good these days that it is very easy to just not use grads (they're simply not as necessary as they once were). That said, I'm one of those curmudgeonly types who insists on trying to get it right in one shot... (not always successfully mind you).
Great info!
Really enjoying my Nisi filters after your recommendation a few years back.
I found it funny though that someone who carries a D850 into the Drakensberg was comparing / concerned about weight 😜.
😂 Still carrying the D850. As I mention towards the end...I'm going to stick with the V7 (and a second V6 holder) for the time being. I borrowed the FS ND kit from Hougaard Malan as I have been getting a lot of questions from local photogs about the differences (they like the fact that it's cheaper).
I really wish NiSi had created a V7 holder that snapped on to the Swift adaptor ring. I also wish they would explain why they chose suction over magnets. I still like magnets better, as they seem to allow for thinner filters.
While doing the video I was thinking about that. It's possible something along those lines will appear (maybe?) In terms of the magnets. It might be a toss-up between legal issues (probably unlikely) and that the pressure mount is more solid. I'm not sure. The pressure mount does work well though.
@@emilvonmaltitz I just heard back from NiSi, and they are planning to release a new series of **magnetic** filters this month 🙂 Super excited!
@@michaeljemery i haven’t heard about that yet. Very interesting! I’ll be sure to review them once they become available.
I really wish Nisi had got the magnetic filter path for the Swift system. The idea of having to push/pull the filter when you want to keep a stable camera during a time bracket shoot seems highly problematic. What has you experience shown>
@@craigozancin the magnetic systems are really quick and easy. If there’s a downside it’s that they have the potential to be knocked off (side impact in particular) but basically you just have to be careful when using them. I think (just an educated guess here as Nisi are silent on this) that the stability issue is why they’ve avoided magnets so far.
I agree about the stability pushing and pulling. I would not use the swift system if I had to change filters between images to be used in a blend. V7 for that.
Great video. Am I right in thinking that, with the Swift filters you can still use a lens hood but with the V7 you cannot?
I don’t think you can use lens hoods with either I’m afraid (certainly not with the V7 and ai don’t have any that work with the Swift). Or at least it won’t work with the majority of lens hoods. It’s one of the problems with filter systems in general. Lee used to have it’s own add on bellows lens hood, and of course if you’re using filters with a cine setup you’d likely have a matt box with shade.
@@emilvonmaltitz Kase magnetic filters will work if you are not using step-up rings and I assumed that the NISI Swift would as well.
Helpfull Informations , but raised a question. For long exposure photography, is a ND Grad needed? To me thats the only caveat of the circular filters, or is there a work around in post? Thanks.
@@abacab1701 No, if you can live without grads then you don’t need to use the square filter system. There is a workaround in post: shoot for exposure blends and of course out modern sensos are so good that it’s often possible to shoot for the highlights and have enough information to open up the shadows.
Could you avoid the vignetting with the Swift system by going bigger, say 95mm instead of 82mm?
Hi James. In theory yes, you could do away with the vignetting issue, but infuriatingly Nisi do not make adapters for the 95mm down to 82mm or smaller. So if you want to go this route you would have to buy step-up rings for the adapters (which is a hack). The 95mm set comes with 95 and 86mm adapter rings. However, there is a internal thread to the 82mm adapters that is 85mm....so in theory you can use the 82mm adapters as step-up rings to the 95mm system.
@@emilvonmaltitz Thanks, Emil! Ok…ouff, got it…well…point for the square filters or even the (much more expensive) Kase magnetic filters.
Last question - with bracketing and digital shot blending being so easy these days, are graduated ND filters necessary any more?
@@jameskezman That's a good question. Digital sensors are so flipping good these days that it is very easy to just not use grads (they're simply not as necessary as they once were). That said, I'm one of those curmudgeonly types who insists on trying to get it right in one shot... (not always successfully mind you).
@@emilvonmaltitz I completely understand!😁 Have a great weekend!