Attacker vs Defender - Core Destruction 5 - Marble Race in Algodoo
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2021
- Which will win, Attacker or Defender?
[Attacker]
1. White
2. Light Gray
3. Dark Gray
4. Black
5. Monochrome
[Defender]
1. Yellow
2. Red
3. Blue
4. Lime
5. Rainbow
[App]
Algodoo
www.algodoo.com/
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3.
Track: Warriyo - Mortals (feat. Laura Brehm) [NCS Release]
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[3D(Unity) Channel]
/ @mikan3d 
Игры
"How did we lose? With our superior equipment??"
"Well sir, it appears someone installed the laser a little too high up"
Lol
That is what the attacker would say, because they lost!
a lot of red was bad for the bomb xd
but that would be too easy for attackers
Like, 1 foot to high.
Also they have the divine healing powers of the gods
I like how the invader was actually kinda helpful when defending got so many marbles
It only kills like 3 - 5 marbles
I’m more curious about the red orbs that ended in the yellow gun
@@colinneptunevasilias822 that was weird clipping physics.
@@colinneptunevasilias822 The shield glitched the red orbs through the wall separating the yellow and red pipes
Turn the other side around,look at how much attacker’s marble is.
It does feel like the defenders had a huge advantage, their repair is more than a little overpowered.
You say that as if attackers don’t have a laser that obliterates half the core
But the defenders heal basically immediately after. The laser power is good in retrospect, but the defenders core-healing was extraordinarily overpowered, as it healed the rainbow areas almost immediately. The invaders rarely ever got close to the core because of how quickly defenders could heal.
I mean, their basic attack fires twice at once and they get a much less clogged field to play with, meaning they can fire off their abilities easier.
@@burritocasserole3706 and attackers were 'wasting' shots Helping defense as people pointed out that top shot did.
Yeah, it does completely invalidate all of the damage that the attackers did. Thus, instead of a back-and-forth war of attrition, it just becomes a battle of whether or not the invaders can get lucky with a series of attacks in close succession, before everything is reset.
Probably would have been more interesting if the repair fired more often, but only repaired ~50% of the damaged areas.
MIKAN is like four parallel universes ahead from us 😅
I know you
Me too
Yahoo!
Blue the best color the world
Try 5
damn rainbow's repair was pretty op lmao, almost losing to full hp? 8:49 is the most blatant example
To be fair, the laser was able to shred most of those layers instantly and couldn't be intercepted
It was the way they would win
With the attackets biggest weapon and lazer, they will be toasted
@@TheDoctorOfThrills But the lazer couldn't kill. Literally the attackers most aggressive weapon, the "special" was entirely negated. It could have not happened at all, and it wouldn't have made a difference.
i hate "lmao"
“Just as one team is about to lose,they win”
Marble race logic.
Thanks guys,if I could get more replies that will be great
@@afigurefromhell387 do you get money for replyes?
@@denischanel3749 I don’t ;v;
@@afigurefromhell387 i can understand likes, but, replies?
@@denischanel3749 well the replies is getting up too so maybe that’s good
I can only imagine how much effort goes into making these battles climactic and interesting. And in asymmetric ones like this, making them balanced
Not fully in fact you can see that in the end of the video the rainbow shield broke the defense mechanism in fact you can see red marbles in the yellow defense thingy
Not to mention that the repair is way too powerful
@@Over0w0MeAmTheHotel yeah it was like when trainers in pokemon would use a max potion every time their pokemon went below like half health, you basically had to 1 shot them
100m
Don't think you realise that all of this was made and sing unity and no participation from the actual person other than Wright ing the code to make it run by itself
black and white vs colours! And only one attacks, one defends
It's like Monochrome vs Rainbow :0
Yeah that's the video
I called them team grayscale and team color
rainbow shield just defeated the attacks
Yeah, cool right ?
The path of the Red Ball who dreamed to be bigger than just a cog (or in this case, ball) in the machine:
10:41 - Red Ball spawns
11:20 - Leaves the right side sphere and enters left side gear chamber
11:44 - Enters the selection chamber from the right side after a Rainbow
11:59 - Selected for Reflection
12:01 - Denied, and shot out of system
12:05 - Lands in final resting area
12:08 - Rests peacefully, knowing they have escaped the eternal cycle of the machine
Time spent in right chamber: 39 seconds
Time spent in left chamber: 24 seconds
Total time spent getting to selection chamber: 53 seconds
Time spent in the selection chamber: 15 seconds
Ratio of time spent in vertical chambers to selection chambers: Approximately 1 : 3.53
Time spent alive (Until out of system): 1 minute and 20 seconds
Time spent trying to find the path of this ball: 30 minutes of frame reverse/rewind and double checking my work for literally 1 minute and 20 seconds of "lifetime".
One could make a life meaning out of this, regarding work, grinding your life away to spend little time enjoying free time, or whatever. I'm sure there's a metaphor somewhere in this.
"Blah blah blah much time spent in the vertical chambers (working) and doing all you can to reach the selection chamber (free time/weekend/day off). This free time comes and it's packed with so many other things you want to do and have no way to achieve it in such a small amount of time with so many other interruptions (other balls). Your time in there is so short it's over before you know it (ratio of time spent noted above)."
Idk, something like that I guess. I know there's literally no meaning to random ball movement and spawns, but I it was a fun time waster. Guess those High School English classes looking for author meanings out of literally nothing did something after all.
that definitely took a long time.
respec
@@bottleojam7469😂
sounds like he escaped prison or somthin
There really is no limit MIKAN, but if we could feul him with ideas how big can he grow?
thats what she said
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@@TheRobsAlGhul uhg
He would become 11:50
Owoooooo
This could eventually take this adversarial approach into more of another symmetrical approach. You could have both teams trying to prevent their core from being destroyed and at the same time attack the other core.
Mikan actually made few videos about this before, you can check them out!
@@Snejk_Y00 which ones
Core destruction
@@ErckDaClerck core destruction
Bruh that would be normal core destruction, not attacker vs defender
That is so cool
Amazing idea it's kinda like
🗡️ vs 🛡️
Yes, Battle of Sword and Shield! I know this!
@@trilecolorracing_TLCRydghjkl
@@williamchuquimia2435 What is this?
Pokémon sword and shield
@@haoxingtan9090 Really?
I love how the invader marbles were actually smart, destroying the blue marbles and only launching when the interception is out of the way.
Are you blind
@@Reckyyy. 💀
There's like, no strategy involved with this. It quite literally is just randomness with physics, not an actual strategy
Maybe do something similar to this where: the defender has low dmg but high hp, the attacker has high dmg, but low hp.
I’m curious who will win!
If he does do it then I vote defender
Teamer/1v1 ruiner/shielder: (i had fun with the name!) it shoots shields at any side. Add on: the other side will attack the support if helping another side, it cannot shoot, it has high health, it can only shoot shields that are harmless but help with the sides defenses (Shielder idea by ray30k, add on by gallon of milk
Tank vs. DPS. throw in a 3rd category that randomly provides barriers to either side and you've got a complete combat triangle.
Thanks for the idea!
@@ray30k the third catagory could be Support which will provide health and barriers like you said, but it will be slow as well as being attack by the one side after helping another (if Support helped DPS then Tank would attack Support and vice-versa)
edit: if support helped DPS then DPS would protect support from Tank, and vice-versa. (also Support would have no weapons or shields)
We’re high enough that MIKAN will atleast notice us! 😎
In likes that is.
The lore:
The defenders were building a new fusion reactor core, but they needed energy that was only available from 5 rainbow marbles to get it working. While they were working on it, they heard that some people didn’t want it to get up and running, despite how much good it would do to everyone, so they put up as many defences as they could while they tried to get the core running. Each colour had a different role: Yellow would try to stop the attacks. Red would repair any damage to the outer wall. Green would repair damage to the main containment unit for the core. Rainbow would kick-start the core, and Blue would make a vortex that could manufacture rainbow marbles.
The roles of the attackers:
Grey attackers would make a normal attack. White attackers would make a laser. Dark grey attackers would make a bomb. Monochrome attackers would do a special attack, and black attackers would fly into the hub area of the defender marbles and explode, killing several other defender marbles in the process. The rest is this video.
I mean you bassically just told us the role of what they do i think we can figure out that much
@@Reckyyy. This probably took them a long time so don’t dissapreciate them
@@DemoniTed that was 2 months ago i dont even remember typing that
@@Reckyyy. still you didn't have to say that
holy shit, new marble race lore just dropped
Black leader: Stop shooting the shield is getting big with every single shot.
Especial: did you said shoot?
Black leader: Fu..... idiot what are you doing?
No kidding, the special came at the worst possible time!
yes
You mean "monochrome leader"
@@ideal10123 For the monochrome team, but for the rainbow team (which i chose) it was the best time for the enemy's special
White Marbles be like:LEMME IN WE NEED TO WADTE DA SHEILD WITH LASERS
That special attack was wayyyy too underpowered while the swirl was op af
True I was like, you need 5 marbles just for that?
Yeah, lazer is more powerful than That. But I was rooting for the defenders anyways
The defenders have all the color, so they are the assumed “good guys”
@@anotheracc8292 No like 15 marbles or something?
@@anthonyschocke2831 Actually 10
rip monochrome
died by repair being a _little_ bit too overpowered
What I'm saying, repair didn't just repair, it made them invincible for like 30 seconds, should have been instant heal.
It can just about tank a laser while healing with the other 3 arms!
@@samiradunstan2703 you're a month late
@@antonkremov1827 I care not!
@@emersonvae u mean full heal or fast heal?
That was actually exactly what I wanted to happen. I was curious about what the attacker's 'special' was, but I also wanted to see the rainbow shield. Honestly, I was underwhelmed by the special attack, it wasn't worth the wait. The rainbow shield, on the other hand, was definitely worth it.
Oof 1:111
You say that but on the third or forth time the special activated, it nearly won by itself.
@@hainekhorin3925 It nearly won because the core defenses were already heavily weakened when it first fired. On its own, it's not even a game changer, it's just a really expensive attack that does a bit of damage across several segments. The laser, on the other hand, can single-handedly destroy like half the defense of a segment, or even more if the segment next to the one it hits is gone and the segment it attacks lines up just right.
The laser does extreme damage and can't be countered but can't outright destroy the core thanks to its positioning. Bombs do the best damage after the laser and could destroy the core, but can be easily countered with interception, refraction or swirl. The special didn't do as much damage as either of them, but was capable of destroying the core while also having no counter.
@@ghidorah4695 on the topic of that, I've done an in-depth analysis.
Both sets of moves are quite similar, having one neutral tool (Interception and Normal shot), one move that bypasses all but one option (Heal and Laser), one move which specifically counters something else (Reflection and Bomb), one "super" move (Special and Swirl), and one miscellaneous option (Invader and Shield).
Normal shot is a basic neutral tool with no inherent strengths or weaknesses. It technically loses to everything, but can be put out very quickly and happens twice per input, so it's good for softening these defenses for little cost.
(Also, Invader does have the value of offsetting the difference between marble production, because Defenders cycle through the 4 marbles they produce compared to the Attackers' 5, but for the sake of matchups it's not relevant.)
Bomb is countered by basically everything, being shut down by Interception, easily fueling Swirl and losing to Reflection (it's the only thing I can say that loses to Reflection because at least Normal having two shots is good for poking at it for little value), but its burst damage is good enough to counter Heal. Unfortunately, it can't use its good burst damage and hit the centre of the core at the same time.
Laser bypasses all defenses and can kill off some Reflection shields, but isn't effective enough to counter Heal if they happen at the same time. It can't hit the centre of the core, but I don't think its damage would make it a worthwhile core finisher.
Finally... the issue. Special seems to be aiming to be a finisher tool by its position, and also due to the fact that the other strong options can't actually end the game. However, by the time it's unlocked, the defenders have both Heal, which similar to Laser, also outheals Special, and Swirl, which directs the shots far away from the centre of the core, making it unable to be a finisher. While it could theoretically be a mid-ground between Bomb and Laser, it lacks the burst damage of Bomb while keeping Laser's weaknesses.
Basically... Heal lasts too long, and when the Attackers attack while it happens, it isn't balanced. Laser loses to Heal, Special loses to Heal, and while Bomb does counter it, it's countered by everything else, making the Defenders nigh invulnerable when they set up Swirl.
If this were to be balanced evenly, what I think should have been changed is Special should entirely be executed quicker- it lasts for less duration, but deals more damage, giving it a bit more burst damage output to fulfil its role as a finisher.
11:52 is when the shield activates
it also fits with the song
Regular core destruction? MIKAN doesn't do that here! I really want to see more of this!
2:28 Invader unlock
3:32 Reflection unlock
3:53 Bomb unlock
4:57 Repair unlock
5:28 Laser unlock
8:10 Swirl unlock
9:59 Special unlock
11:48 Shield time!!!!
....
lolz
You are just telling the whole video
Lol
Lol
It's no wonder that this battle ended the way it did. Look at how few of the attacking team's weapons are actually aimed at the core.
I’m a Red fan but Yellow has slowly been raising the ranks. It played the interceptor role really well this game and stalled enough time to allow the shield to be made. It even allowed the invaders in at a PERFECT timing to declog the game and allow for blue to finish off.
teal
no further elaboration
im a red fan to but repair was way to op
Red is very very angry it doesn't get much red marbles and laser keeps griefing it and its purpose is very simple waste 1 attack from the attacker team only for the normal and bomb is effective
I'm also a red fan
@@BP-- but red has big role that as secondary wall and stop boom too destroy half defend. And i seeing some red that really save the core from boom when the laser destroyed top defend of the core
Well, that was an interesting ending...
I love how you made game rules in present time. It’s so like perfectionists you are! 🙂
My tips to optimize this is its brought back
Repairs are too strong imo and the special cannon for attackers was kinda useless the laser was way better
4:00 rare footage of invader attacking directly xD
And it attacked it's own ally at that.
here is another one of those rare cases where that happens 4:28 an invander colides with a bomb marble
This coment is so deeply buried in the newer ones so probably very few will see this.
@@shafiulcse tru lol
@@shafiulcsei saw it :)
That moment when you realize the invader marbles do what they're supposed to even if they don't make it into the defender's marble depot
5:31
the elimination of the invadors by yellow matched perfectly with the beat
5:34
The grey balls bouncing off the red reflecion also matched perfectly wth the beat
Good observation
So awesome! Personally, I usually vote Lime, so seeing those clutch Repairs was cool.
I usually vote rainbow, i see there shied are so cool.
12:05 red: why am i here? On this cannon
Imagen if red said where am i? Did I die!? Am l in the bad place?
あぁもう駄目か…とヒヤヒヤする展開からのラストが物凄くドラマチック！
見応え抜群でした👍👍👍✨
He said:
Ah, it’s no good … The last from the unfolding is extremely dramatic! It was spectacular 👍👍👍✨
4:47 - I think the defender really stopped and early game over here.
It stopped the bomb before it made contact with the thinnest part of the core.
Am I the only one who thought the defender's powers were just slightly overpowered? The defender's repair effect was a great idea but how it worked caused it to be virtually impossible for the attacker to even hit the last 5 or so layers of the defenders core. Also there was much less room for failure on attacker's part, but because of how attackers canons were set up there was more ways to fail, completely downgrading attacker's abilities no matter how good. The rainbow worm-hole thing that the defender's blue cannon made also completely rendered a lot of the attacker's abilities useless, and gave the defender the win ability. And yes, I am aware that you need the ability to win, to win. But thats the problem, the defender completely eliminated the attacker's ability to win. Defense only makes it harder to win, it doesent (or in a game setting shouldn't) make it completely impossible to win altogether.
Tldr: the defender was just slightly overpowered. Change my mind.
Btw, I still loved this, don't think I said the things I said out of hate for defender.
Would be cool if they uploaded another run where the attacker wins.
@Isaiah Harris so that It didnt seem like I didnt have reasons to dislike the defender.
It looks like MIKAN never runs out of ideas, and the wait was well worth it
I know this!
AMAZING VID MIKAN! KEEP THIS UP!
this is certainly my most liked video of the channel
10:10 the music is queued perfectly with the shooting thingy that just started
The special laser
repair seemed a bit oppressive, fully repairing the entire core each time, meanwhile the special cannon was basically worthless doing nearly nothing... i'd have swapped repair and reflector around, had reflector do a continuous big repair to the reflection shield while repair fixed only a small amount of a single core block. Either that or had special cannon smoke linger and damage over time.
then the attackers instantly win
2:14 That gray marble just nope'd itself out of the battlefield
Oh, wait, all the marbles exit the battlefield on collision...
THIS IS THE MOST EPIC VIDEO ON YOUR CHANEL!COOL EFECTS AND EPIC END!
this is really cool! i sort of wish the defending team had a clearer goal, maybe to outlast a timer or get a certain number of power ups or something!
Is making the rainbow shield really that complicated of a goal? You just need to get enemy marbles into the rainbow swirl and then get 5 of them to make the shield
Algoooo kill Need 1exd EXE
Perfect timing on the end there
At this point it’s just intentionally scripted. Happens all the time.
I always love how music beat is synced with marbles bouncing and other stuff that is happening on the screen
I really like how each side has different rules to win. I've seen other channels do core destructions where it's just attackers get points and go until the core is destroyed, and I find those unfair and boring to watch. Your version is a lot more entertaining.
I think the reflection repairs everything outside the core
Red ball Sitting on the Cannon gun at the end: This View of the Core is Pretty!
This is extremely cool, and got really close. I also really like how every marble has its own particular roll to play. Except for that one red marble which escaped and was resting on top of the bomb cannon.
I saw that
Also me
It was like you know what I'm sleepy I'm going to the bomb cannon
Is Mikan even human.... Seriously every video you do is just amazing.
He is not human
He is O R A N G E
@@lindakristiani151 Praise the almighty Orange.
I think the Repair fixes things around the core not outside the core
9:37 interceptor ruins the capturing of that attacker lol xd
After so many time of peace and negotiations, colored marbles have learned to collaborate, stay together and stop any conflict between them.
Since this great advance from part of the marbles, they had to restore their weaponry and arsenal due to a great trouble: An enemy, an unknown enemy which doesn't wish to negotiate.
Marbles have united with their strongest force to afford the destructive invasion. So many marbles lost their lives in the war, but, they protected their society and will be remembered as heroes.
Nice backhistory
Nice backhistory
When mikan plays, Turn It Up, you know who will win
normals: can we go on core
colors: NO
Normals: why?
Colors: THE YELLOW IS A DEADLY LAZER
I like your vidieo mikan
I am, too...!
Greeny
@@acidphoenix5287 sorry but what?
Greeny
Greeny
This is awesome! more core destruction please!
That is a clever mechanic, turning the enemy marbles into rainbow marbles with Swirl
I love this, not just because I like the idea of team colors versing against each other, and all the a unique powers each one has, but also that Rainbow, my favorite, goes full on god mode once activated and kills off all enemies by itself
Wow, nice video! I rooted for the defender, and glad it didn't disappoint me :3
I'm wondering who would win if it wasn't so heavily rigged against the attackers, half of them don't even make it into the guns since they get sent back to the start halfway through. If both of the sides had the same system to get to their chamber would the results be any different? Just a thought.
You say that when rainbow's chamber was packed with marbles and had trouble sorting them
12:03 Why is no one talking about how beautifully synced this is?
Can we just talk about how perfectly the music syncs with the core at 1:07
I never saw it
AWESOME!
that was amazing and impessionant, I said what is possible that, Mikan you are a master with this videos. God Bless you
the little rainbow vortex seems op, we kinda need to reduce the time it lasts.
As did the repair, basically turned the core invulnerable while it was on.
@@danielgibson3422 yeah, and interceptor also seems a bit op, it should be a 50% chance to shoot down projectiles/invaders. if the 50% chance triggers, only then spend a yellow ball to do so.
The shield is so overpowered
I was playing this in the background while multitasking and the sound at 4:14 nearly gave me a heart attack
sir MIKAN plz do more core destruction and attacker vs devender with rainbow color plz😭😭😭😭
To approve
That comeback from Defender was mint.
Monochrome vs. Colored Rainbow, wahoo!
Thx for the entertaining and peaceful videos MIKAN
これは面白いビデオです, MIKAN!
Perfekt video Mikan it's cool
Wow!! Mikan it was awesome I thought other marble racer done this special gift in replies
I have four new colors they are:-
Coral, Ivory, Sky and Azure.Race four new marbles with your marbles 🥰🥰🥰
10:58 a black invader marble tries to invade through the swirl tube bruh
The blue vortex was genius, I tip my hat to you
I can't help but imagine what the roles each color would be if they were TF2 characters
yellow: sniper
Red: Engineer
Blue: heavy
Green: Medic
Normal: soldier
Invader: Spy
Bomb: Demoman
laser/Special: Pyro
Rainbow: Scout
It'd be chaos to have tf2 noises in this though XD
Blue black hole gun you idiot
And yellow is laser
Rainbow is a nuke rainbow
Red reflection
Green or lime repair
11:58 the main characters uses the value of friendship
what was the bad ending going to be, that's the only thing remains unknown...
09:23 this is the moment the attacker lost all hopes of victory
I think mono is still sore after losing the last castle defense one, so hence being placed as an attacker.
laser: I WILL KILL YOUR REPAIR
greeen: YOU CAN'T STOP ME
So underrated
8:38 did anyone see that marble flew up
It synced
Bro it's the reflect
Defender's mission
- Defend your core
Meke the rainbow shield and
Attacker's mission
- Destroy the opponent's core
Can you just appreciate how when it finishes the whole thing blows up.
I have an request.
1) Can you make an other channel. Name it as "MIKAN tutorial". In this channel you post some videos about making marble races, obstacles like conveyors, spinning blades, etc.
2) Separate timings for these three channels ( If you have made the MIKAN tutorial) in a year. For each channel three months timing is been given. In that timing you want to upload videos in the timing of that channel.
7:38 name?
Warriyo (Feat: Laura Brehm) - Mortals
The defenders' goal is to use blue marbles to make Swirl abilities. When marbles are caught they become rainbow marbles. Get 5 into the rainbow "Shield" ability area to win
Rainbow Shield when spawned: kalm
Rainbow Sheild 5 seconds later: *EXPLODE*
“TASTE THE RAINBOW M***********!!”
@@theemeraldenderman3007 wh
Spoiler:
that was so sick when the defender used shield and destroyed the attacker
11:00 lmao that invader ball
Man tried to attack from the ammunition
9:28 that was kinda perfect
Why was there even an option to make rainbow, this is so mind blowing!!!
I don't think the attackers understood the objective. You're supposed to hit the lime core, not fire your laser 10,000,000 times and hope the laser hits the core, because the laser is too high to hit the core!
Defenders deserved this victory.
mikan is the smartest person I know!
I dont know if it was already suggested sometime ago, but i think, if it is possible to get some Interactions from outside of Algodoo, it should be possible to create a Twitch-Plays version of many of those Games.
The general Idea would be, that every viewer would be able to join as a Marble into those games. "!join attackers/defenders"
For this Game, you would be able to choose which Side you would go on and what type of Marble you would like. "!type [invader, normal, bomb, etc.]"
You would be able to change your Type and after the next respawn you would respawn with the new Type.
This would enable the ability to strategize and give those games more depth.
You could even integrate the Twitch-Points system, where you would be able to change the apearance of you Marble or even the trail itself.
You could also integrate some features or cosmetics only available to Subscribers only, or trigger some global effect, which are effecting everyone in the same way, so there would be no direct benefit to be pruchasable by money.
I dont know how far you could go, but maybe you would be able to change the appearance to a star, but still have the hitbox of a circle.
You could setup a 24/7 Stream, where the Game-Modes are rotating like every 2 hours, more or less as it fits.
I would be interested in playing those games via Twitch-Plays, i think, those type of Games fits them perfectly.
lovely use of monochrome vs colour... and I spy the rare black marbles in this mix!
feel the spiral-rainbow vortexes were a bit OP, maybe if it were a little shorter it would be more balanced... but nice flex with the physics!
Can we all agree that first heal was very much so needed 4:55
(does nothing)