Well assuming the first marble had not been there it would have been two spread shots that would have been about as useless. Blue just kept getting big workers early on.
After the weakest early game move I have ever seen (spending all money on repairs when only 1 block was damaged) I was impressed by the Worker Killers in the late game that took out at least half of cyans workers during saving phase.
@@idleeyez1646 The comment section is for people to *comment on what happened in the video.* Having it spoiled is entirely your fault for looking at the comments before watching the video. Should be common sense.
Yup. The heal by orange at start told me I was rooting for the wrong side, then I saw them getting many shots on orange, orange had an amazing shot at cyan but it was too late. Idk where orange wasted all their money.
I like how this is functionally two primarily-rng AI dueling, but all the guts of their brains are laid out in simulated physical form so it's neat to watch.
Information regarding some of the special effects: - Saving Mode : If a worker wants to buy something but the team can't afford it, the worker instead goes to the saving mode queue. Saving mode activates after a certain number of workers enter the queue. During saving mode, the sell-gate is blocked and the workers in the campground continue to collect gold bars for a short while, effectively stockpiling money for the next round of purchases. - Worker Killer : tosses a grenade into the opponent's camp. the grenade expands and goes off after a few seconds. it has a magnetic surface, and workers will stick to it until it explodes, killing any in the blast radius. the worker killer's explosion is *larger* than the sell-gate, meaning that a worker very likely to be killed if the worker killer lands near the sell-gate, where all workers must travel through eventually. (A worker killer in the gold pile could easily be avoided completely.) - Repair : creates a laser needle that rotates around the core. If a wall block on the outer edge is damaged or destroyed, the laser will repair/recreate that wall block. Because the needle and the core rotate in opposite directions, the needle will have a chance to repair some/all of the damage from any given attack, making it especially useful against flame and spread-shot attacks. - Flame : Even though it only reaches a certain distance, in contrast to all other attacks, the flame *does* have enough reach to damage/destroy the core. Analytical factors that lead to win conditions: - Having more strong workers : Each large gold bar is worth 10x the value of its smaller counterpart, but each strong worker is only 2x the cost of a normal worker to buy. Strong workers are bigger, meaning they are less likely to bounce out of the elevator after the sell-gate, thus reducing idle time. Because they collect 2 small bars instead of 1, they can remove them faster than normal workers, and help clear the way for the next strong worker to more likely grab a large gold bar. - Spending more time in saving mode : Time spent in the elevator and the wheel is idle time, but time spent in the campground is active work. Because saving mode locks workers into the campground, it means the team is performing more efficiently. Accordingly, failing to make purchases is often *more beneficial* than a successful purchase, especially in the case of normal shots, bombs, badly-aimed attacks, and unnecessary repairs. - Having more workers in general : As expected, more workers means more income, more purchases (of additional workers especially), and increased likelihood of a purchase fail (lack) which translates to more saving mode time. - Better aim/timing with the worker killers : A strong worker is likely to earn more than $500 in its lifetime, so killing a strong worker is a long-term investment in reducing the opponent's income by more than the cost of the worker killer. At the very least, killing a single worker from the opponent's team means fewer opportunities for them to purchase another strong worker and fewer entries to their saving mode queue.
Cyan at the start: alright, wee need some money to defeat Orange. Orange at the start: let's spend 3/4 of a grand on repairs but we didnt lose a brick!
Orange blew it by pouring the budget into repairs after losing one brick. Cyan was smart. Do repairs later on when they are needed, but not badly. Good job, Cyan!
After a hard rigorous day of work i sit in a nice cool bath with the lights dimmed, a corona by my side, and this video playing. The most relaxing thing ever
Cyan: *being smart about how they invest their money* Orange: One brick is missing, we need to invest all our money in repairs. Later: *orange wall is almost completely destroyed and orange has more than enough for the necessary repairs* Orange: We don’t need repairs.
This one is pretty interesting (if a bit hard to follow everything going on), but I feel there could be a bit more. In particular, I feel like there could be more of a comeback mechanic since that was completely lacking in this (and makes for some great tension in other videos); maybe you could have one side’s workers move faster and buy stuff cheaper if they have a disadvantage in worker count or base health. You could also tweak the conditions and probabilities for the different items based on what’s needed; for example, you could make Repair smaller when the base has high health (since Orange was wasting a lot of money on unneeded Repairs), or only introduce it after a while like you often do with bigger weapons, a side with a worker disadvantage could have a better chance to get workers and killers, etc.
I literally watched one orange ball try and fail to get up the elevator for 30 seconds, then as soon as it finally settled and started going up, orange got its 2nd savings mode and it went back down. I have never been more frustrated in my life.
I was really annoyed that the first major purchase was cyan buying a bomb to shoot at the ground, but then orange spent 14x that to repair one whole brick so I felt a bit vindicated.
Normal Shot ($10): Destoys the brick it hits Bomb ($50): Damages all bricks caught in the explosion Worker ($100): Releases a new worker to collect gold Strong Worker ($200): Releases a new strong worker to collect gold Spread Shot ($300): Fires a wave of bullets Worker Killer ($500): Drops a sticky bomb that kills all the workers caught in the explosion Repair ($700): Regenerates damaged/destroyed bricks Flame ($1000): Releases fire that burns down bricks Saving Mode: Instead of entering the core to buy things, workers continue to collect gold
This would make an awesome video game, where two players attack their opponent's cores while defending their own using gold and workers as their source of income.
If i had complete control over one of these cores I would win by: 1. Spending money on workers in the early game. 2. Buying worker killers mid game. 3. Buying spreadshot and repair end game.
***Spoilers*** Man.. I was hoping orange would win since he focused so much on cloning. This seems to be the first game where actually using weapon attacks trumps cloning. Well done MIKAN.
orange was ontop of the economy and worker game, at some points orange was ahead of cyan by miles interms of money. orange even got to 6k+, problem was they didn't know how to spend it right
I believe the range of the swing of the 'guns' should be reduced. If they point down, most of the options they release is wasted. And overall its often the best if they shoot pointing up (worker killer gets the spot at the gate, giving highest chance to snatch workers, bombs hit best, etc..
I love this one! can you do one with 3 or 4 colors? Where the income comes from the middles and they can sabotage opponent's doors or even double their income every now and then?
Man, you could pump out 5 videos a day (of your best ideas) just so we get to re-enjoy the same concepts without knowing who'll win. I personally was partial to that triangle race video. wouldn't mind if new races came out.
Spoilers lol Orange team: *has over $825* That one orange marble: “hmmm, yeah I think we lost 1 block let’s spend $700 to fix it :D, I am so useful.” The rest of the orange marbles: *;-;* And the funny thing is they took a load of damage afterwards
Orange sabotaged itself. Spending money on repairs in early game when it wasn't needed, and spending money on more workers and other stuff not needed when they desperately needed to repair in late game
cyan is very strategic i guess say cyan pog if you like cyan 1st they bought a bunch of useless items to go saving mode once 2nd when the orange got the saving mode a couple of times they werent smart enough to save golds 3rd the cyans went ahead and use the saving mode a couple of times to earn money 4th they delayed the oranges by using killer workers to buy more workers so the oranges cant get the gold 5ththe final step by the help of the marbles doing it as a team the flame destroyed the core and gg cyan won again!( against orange agian from the gold battle 4) bonus:and her we have orange not using his mind lol... thats it stop reading this! stop it pls there are no more useful information ok i guess read it then ko mi enod fi ouy daer siht yas gop
Incorrect : "Frame"
Correct : "Flame"
No problem, it's comprehensive
Pls another 24 color race with no red
I did not notice the typo until u said it...
yes we knew
@@Thischannelisalreadyclosed bruh why tho
Orange: 99% health
Also orange: all money for repair!!!
At this moment I understood, that I was rooting for the wrong side.
I think the start also screwed them up with the one extra shot to drop their money to 30
@@duckduck5728 And firing everything off the screen for the first 4 or 5 mins lol
Well assuming the first marble had not been there it would have been two spread shots that would have been about as useless. Blue just kept getting big workers early on.
it's like the ncr
i think orange has a bet goinng on wiith red or is just plain blind
At the start Orange is like "let's spend our entire budget on repairs, even though we've only lost like 1 brick!"
When you're atelophobic.
Range: Ah yes -1 hp *heal*
Orange 1 Brick lost:HEAL
Orange +100 brick lost:nah,im fine with that
@@LittleWinner lol
hi
Soon MIKAN is going to create entire Marbles Defense RTS game with full campaign, side missions and complete lore.
That is where you’re wrong
Yeah
not if i do it first
@Ellen Shade please tell me more
...Marble Defense RTS?
*Go on...*
After the weakest early game move I have ever seen (spending all money on repairs when only 1 block was damaged) I was impressed by the Worker Killers in the late game that took out at least half of cyans workers during saving phase.
you wouldn't spoil it for anyone would you ..!..
@@idleeyez1646 The comment section is for people to *comment on what happened in the video.* Having it spoiled is entirely your fault for looking at the comments before watching the video. Should be common sense.
Yup. The heal by orange at start told me I was rooting for the wrong side, then I saw them getting many shots on orange, orange had an amazing shot at cyan but it was too late. Idk where orange wasted all their money.
@@bowmin1sometimes, the comments button show a spoiler comment
Yeah that work force take down had me hoping my favourite orange would win but sadly they couldn't pull it back
Orange:
"Look how many rifles we produced, imagine how many factories we could plant without them!"
I like how this is functionally two primarily-rng AI dueling, but all the guts of their brains are laid out in simulated physical form so it's neat to watch.
There are no AI here, the purchases are purely random
@@minhhpd Random decision-making is still decision-making.
@@somdudewillson that isn't decision-making tho.
One team got too overwhelmed by the other
funny how there’s no comebacks at all
Because of problem
Agree. :)
And also because orange doesn't care about winning
Normally there's a comeback in Mikan vids a
mikan’s videos are full of surprises
Can't tell what was funnier, Cyan's bombs almost never hitting, or Orange pissing away $700 repairing it's full hp
i dont think orange landed a single bomb either
@@annapotat0987 Oh no, it certainly did. In fact, orange had near 80% accuracy.
@@diablos7111orange just didn't shoot anything so 😂
Aw yes, Orange's specialty: the Limp shot
And cyans specialty the flame thrower
And, of course, red, the destroyer of universes and the god of ammo
我愛你
底出去
@@楊碧蓉 r/youngpeopleyoutube
Information regarding some of the special effects:
- Saving Mode : If a worker wants to buy something but the team can't afford it, the worker instead goes to the saving mode queue. Saving mode activates after a certain number of workers enter the queue. During saving mode, the sell-gate is blocked and the workers in the campground continue to collect gold bars for a short while, effectively stockpiling money for the next round of purchases.
- Worker Killer : tosses a grenade into the opponent's camp. the grenade expands and goes off after a few seconds. it has a magnetic surface, and workers will stick to it until it explodes, killing any in the blast radius. the worker killer's explosion is *larger* than the sell-gate, meaning that a worker very likely to be killed if the worker killer lands near the sell-gate, where all workers must travel through eventually. (A worker killer in the gold pile could easily be avoided completely.)
- Repair : creates a laser needle that rotates around the core. If a wall block on the outer edge is damaged or destroyed, the laser will repair/recreate that wall block. Because the needle and the core rotate in opposite directions, the needle will have a chance to repair some/all of the damage from any given attack, making it especially useful against flame and spread-shot attacks.
- Flame : Even though it only reaches a certain distance, in contrast to all other attacks, the flame *does* have enough reach to damage/destroy the core.
Analytical factors that lead to win conditions:
- Having more strong workers : Each large gold bar is worth 10x the value of its smaller counterpart, but each strong worker is only 2x the cost of a normal worker to buy. Strong workers are bigger, meaning they are less likely to bounce out of the elevator after the sell-gate, thus reducing idle time. Because they collect 2 small bars instead of 1, they can remove them faster than normal workers, and help clear the way for the next strong worker to more likely grab a large gold bar.
- Spending more time in saving mode : Time spent in the elevator and the wheel is idle time, but time spent in the campground is active work. Because saving mode locks workers into the campground, it means the team is performing more efficiently. Accordingly, failing to make purchases is often *more beneficial* than a successful purchase, especially in the case of normal shots, bombs, badly-aimed attacks, and unnecessary repairs.
- Having more workers in general : As expected, more workers means more income, more purchases (of additional workers especially), and increased likelihood of a purchase fail (lack) which translates to more saving mode time.
- Better aim/timing with the worker killers : A strong worker is likely to earn more than $500 in its lifetime, so killing a strong worker is a long-term investment in reducing the opponent's income by more than the cost of the worker killer. At the very least, killing a single worker from the opponent's team means fewer opportunities for them to purchase another strong worker and fewer entries to their saving mode queue.
THANK YOU
This is the peak of humanity right there
Guys it's obvious, he is trying to explain kirby lore
Wow what a great explanation! 👍🏻
Respect
He had the time to type this
Cyan: **does very well and wins**
Me: **confused screaming of happiness**
Plz put Spoiler cuzi no who wins now lol
@@dogeroblox1237 I tried to hide it
@@thecoolcongle5128 ok
@@dogeroblox1237 uhh I don't understand
Thanks for spoiling the end :(
Then again it is my fault for looking at the comments '-'
Orange lost at 3:10, the moment that they ended up spending $700 on a repair they *really* didn't need. Basically just threw away $700
Also I was infuriated how many bombs and shots it missed like what the fuck is this, cyan was landing all shots no problem
@@madghostek3026 yeah true
@@F4ker05orange is a stormtrooper confirmed
This is a creative crossover!
Perfection!
Now they actually have something to do with the gold!
Cyan at the start: alright, wee need some money to defeat Orange.
Orange at the start: let's spend 3/4 of a grand on repairs but we didnt lose a brick!
I think that they had lost 1 brick
@@jacobhinger5039yeah they did
get currencies and purchase weapons!
💯 legal
USA simulator
EA - Battle royale
@@ysqys2176 XD
Can we restore U.S.S.R?
Danger; Spoilers below:
Cyan won with its economic advantage, but man, that's total disrespect by getting the kill with the flamethrower, lol
I like cyan and dislike orange
@@microphon1549 hey! thats colorist!
@@fallen_angelmemesforlife9172 XD
Orange almost made a comeback when they absolutely slaughtered the worker population though. Cyan just had to much by that point though.
1000000000000000000000000£
Virgin Orange: Wasted money on repairs
Chad Cyan: Purposefully whiffs to activate save mode
Very entertaining, I’d love to see more iterations or variants of this
10:56 Cyan worker lands on the wrong side of town and proceeds to get bullied hard.
hey atleast it picked up a 400 dollar brick
hey, 400 dollars is 400 dollars
@@snowrhino675my bro before we take estrogen (i wanted him as a girl all along)
1:47
Cyan: We bought this 50$ bomb and threw it into the void!!! (NOT CLICKBAIT)
lel
Lol🤣
he did it many more times
@@zxcvbnmlkjhgfdsaqwertyuiop7 Orange did it a couple times as well, IIRC.
Yandere dev! Yandere dev!
I love how it automatically activates saving mode when the funds are too low for too long.
The lack is used to activate saving mode
Alternative title: If EA owns core destruction
Orange blew it by pouring the budget into repairs after losing one brick.
Cyan was smart. Do repairs later on when they are needed, but not badly.
Good job, Cyan!
Can't say I'm a fan of the fact that the bombs just fall through the floor, like... "Hey, y'know that thing we spent $50 on? yeah, it didn't explode"
After a hard rigorous day of work i sit in a nice cool bath with the lights dimmed, a corona by my side, and this video playing. The most relaxing thing ever
Cyan: *being smart about how they invest their money*
Orange: One brick is missing, we need to invest all our money in repairs.
Later:
*orange wall is almost completely destroyed and orange has more than enough for the necessary repairs*
Orange: We don’t need repairs.
This one is pretty interesting (if a bit hard to follow everything going on), but I feel there could be a bit more. In particular, I feel like there could be more of a comeback mechanic since that was completely lacking in this (and makes for some great tension in other videos); maybe you could have one side’s workers move faster and buy stuff cheaper if they have a disadvantage in worker count or base health.
You could also tweak the conditions and probabilities for the different items based on what’s needed; for example, you could make Repair smaller when the base has high health (since Orange was wasting a lot of money on unneeded Repairs), or only introduce it after a while like you often do with bigger weapons, a side with a worker disadvantage could have a better chance to get workers and killers, etc.
I literally watched one orange ball try and fail to get up the elevator for 30 seconds, then as soon as it finally settled and started going up, orange got its 2nd savings mode and it went back down. I have never been more frustrated in my life.
I was really annoyed that the first major purchase was cyan buying a bomb to shoot at the ground, but then orange spent 14x that to repair one whole brick so I felt a bit vindicated.
*Warriyo - Mortals starts playing*
*Almost the end of the vid*
Oh no...
"Set me freeeee..........."...
THERE IT COMES
You know shit's about to end when that music plays.
Yeah
When Mortals starts playing something awesome is about to happen and it's usually the losing side exploding
@@moonythespoonie9551 Wrong!
@@moonythespoonie9551 or the winning side
I seriously have no idea how you keep thinking up all this great stuff. Please tell me there's a Patreon so I can donate to all this funness!
In the future possibly:
gold battle worms core protect cold and hot with new funky mode
With 100 opponents
Orange had a solid start, but the combination of unnecessary repairs and blue pulling off some clutch worker killers caused them to lose momentum
That and orange missed half their shot 😂😂
That one who bought repair be like: "guys? why is everybody scolding me?"
5:38
love that confused orange worker trying his best
Normal Shot ($10): Destoys the brick it hits
Bomb ($50): Damages all bricks caught in the explosion
Worker ($100): Releases a new worker to collect gold
Strong Worker ($200): Releases a new strong worker to collect gold
Spread Shot ($300): Fires a wave of bullets
Worker Killer ($500): Drops a sticky bomb that kills all the workers caught in the explosion
Repair ($700): Regenerates damaged/destroyed bricks
Flame ($1000): Releases fire that burns down bricks
Saving Mode: Instead of entering the core to buy things, workers continue to collect gold
>Whiffs 4 worker killers in a row
>Destroys like 12 workers in one shot
The scientific term for this is 'All Skill'.
This would make an awesome video game, where two players attack their opponent's cores while defending their own using gold and workers as their source of income.
If i had complete control over one of these cores I would win by:
1. Spending money on workers in the early game.
2. Buying worker killers mid game.
3. Buying spreadshot and repair end game.
SO frustrating watching the bad luck Orange got and the good luck Teal got, every time it felt like the game was actively giving Teal good RNG.
Orange expending its entire budget in repairs an the begining:
"I'll never financially recover from this"
How do you come up with stuff like this? this is incredible!
I loved this idea it took me a second second understand it but I hope to see a second one
10:54 One guy on cyan floating across the wall of ingots: WEEEEEE
Meanwhile orange: UR OUR HOSTAGE
One guy in cyan: PLS LET ME GO
Mikan’s “fun” part of the brain kicked in
YAY! Both my favorites are finally in a video! I love it ❤️
The Marbles are evolving. Soon they'll be building kingdoms and conquer everything beyond the fourth wall
They already did that, in that one video where they started breaking out of the window, etc.
@@bluesbest1 is that how we got marbles? Escapees who time-traveled after breaking out.
@@destolarde7141 It's possible. Of course, the marbles I grew up with were glass, which wouldn't do well in that environment.
***Spoilers***
Man.. I was hoping orange would win since he focused so much on cloning. This seems to be the first game where actually using weapon attacks trumps cloning. Well done MIKAN.
Look, man, orange wins nearly every core destruction. Let blue win at least once.
@@JohnDoe-hu9wq I wasn't complaining. I just like that MIKAN found a system where the clone button doesn't work as well as it does in every other. =D
orange was ontop of the economy and worker game, at some points orange was ahead of cyan by miles interms of money. orange even got to 6k+, problem was they didn't know how to spend it right
I love when you combine these game modes
This concept needs a name
My name idea: Economy Wars
@@PhaseArray Thats................actually not a bad name
Repairs are necessary though but when you add 100 repairs are not necessary at that point
This is so good end entertaining😮keep up the good work and keep coming up with good and creative ideas🤗👍
This is really my favorite of them all, really a shame there isn't more of them
Mikan's managing to do things in Algodoo I bet even the creator of the game doesn't know about
that's so creative I like it
That orange marble who spent their entire saving on repair to heal 1block tho
The Music.........
It's just Perfect for this type of Video!
I believe the range of the swing of the 'guns' should be reduced. If they point down, most of the options they release is wasted. And overall its often the best if they shoot pointing up (worker killer gets the spot at the gate, giving highest chance to snatch workers, bombs hit best, etc..
This is amazing! You make some really good videos!
Orange’s first mistake was blowing their initial budget on a repair while only missing two blocks
Orange doesnt care, because they only wanna pay
@@splorticusss yeah
I feel like orange did really well in terms of getting money, but they kept making bad purchases and had a constantly malfunctioning cannon.
I think they should start in savings mode, that way it gets into things a little faster
99% bombs: casually fly to the nowhere.
Also, blue's investment in workers *PAID OFF*
Early Gang has arrived
Orange pissed away every advantage xD, spending money on repairs when it was barely damaged, firing ALL of its bomb / worker kill shots into the floor
orange whiffed so many bombs by shooting them down, feels like the timing on the aim/item selection is a bit rigged lol.
OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS ITS SO COOL
This is concept of stealing gold bars for sell then purchase weapons for 10$,100$ or even 1000$
I loved the beat drop right as Orange exploded
(8:34) Perfect sync from Cyan!
I love it when past concepts mix like this
I love this one! can you do one with 3 or 4 colors? Where the income comes from the middles and they can sabotage opponent's doors or even double their income every now and then?
Orange should get a prize for "most explosive rounds lobbed into empty space"
Legend say : mikan will never out of ideas, they will found all ide to making his fans happy
Its very satisfying when orange got clapped in the end
While on 9:45 orange was being annoying when cyan activates saving mode
Man, you could pump out 5 videos a day (of your best ideas) just so we get to re-enjoy the same concepts without knowing who'll win. I personally was partial to that triangle race video. wouldn't mind if new races came out.
this guy is getting more and more creative lol
12:13, perfect timing :D
Why do I even watch these anymore? Whenever it's orange and cyan, cyan always wins
5:20 See kids, this is the importance of saving money.
Moral: you can become a millionare in a week
Orange: Lets aim all of the Bombs at the floor, that'll get us a win!
Spoilers lol
Orange team: *has over $825*
That one orange marble: “hmmm, yeah I think we lost 1 block let’s spend $700 to fix it :D, I am so useful.”
The rest of the orange marbles: *;-;*
And the funny thing is they took a load of damage afterwards
Orange: hey we only care about da money
Ngjan
Orange team has over $825
@@splorticusss is the night
Hello 👋 I was gonna get your birthday and then you will be a friend
late game orange: hmmm im going to win >:) cyan: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT
at 8:03 the big worker just wanna help his team win
Orange sabotaged itself. Spending money on repairs in early game when it wasn't needed, and spending money on more workers and other stuff not needed when they desperately needed to repair in late game
12:12 most amazing moment ever
Orange : *spends entire budget on repairs*
Orange : We have used all of our budget to repair 1 brick.
Cyan : HAHA YOUR DEAD NOW!
And Cyan's bomb hit the ground ...
Red vs blue
you should do this some more its a fun concept
I think red is gonna win
Challenge for MIKAN: reveal your real face!!!
I know Mikan is Japanese
@@wanteko I wonder is it a he or a she...
@@HEYJO77 male? or female?
Cool video 👍
cyan is very strategic
i guess say cyan pog if you like cyan
1st they bought a bunch of useless items to go saving mode once
2nd when the orange got the saving mode a couple of times they werent smart enough to save golds
3rd the cyans went ahead and use the saving mode a couple of times to earn money
4th they delayed the oranges by using killer workers to buy more workers so the oranges cant get the gold
5ththe final step by the help of the marbles doing it as a team the flame destroyed the core and gg cyan won again!( against orange agian from the gold battle 4)
bonus:and her we have orange not using his mind lol... thats it stop reading this!
stop it pls there are no more useful information
ok i guess read it then
ko mi enod fi ouy daer siht yas gop
Tell me more x x
U
Pog
pog
Why were there no comebacks
Yo my guy posting at 4am for me les go
First
basically core destruction with pay to win microtransactions
I love your videos when they are a race or defense❤
Yes let’s go, my favourite colour won
Wow this canal is incredible