Love Is Blind - Survey Results - Season 6 #99 - Therapist Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2024
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to Love Is Blind Season 6. Includes clips from Love Is Blind (Netflix).
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Can I just say I don't care how many Love is Blind videos you make I'm going to watch all of them😂
Agreed
Me too! I don’t even read the whole caption. I just glance at tue thumbnail and see it’s LIB related, and immediately click on it!
I’ve been rationing them! Only 1.5 left 😭
Laughing so hard at Dr. Kirk "my wife is a model" Honda assuming that pageant people wouldn't wanna hang out with him. 😂
Ha!
This is a bit besides the point but I just have to say I love it when Dr. Kirk shows old pictures of himself and such. It's just so sweet. Especially any pictures of him and Stacy!
Aw thanks, Ahsoka. I'm always wondering if people are bothered by those tangents.
I know Dr Honda is only our RUclips therapist, but my ver beloved, saved-my-life therapist I had for most of my 20’s used to share aspects of her life that aligned with a struggle or situation I was going through. It was really nice, made me trust her.
I really appreciate Berto. He seems like a person with a lot of charactwr, who have lived, not dealt the easiest hand but very bright and a person who can look at things with humility.
That "for sure for sure!" got me 😂 caught me off guard...for sure!
"gag me with a spoon" 😂
Haha same
0:52 having a hard day, you got a real LOL from the “stuck in the pods” joke
8:38 ya also got a good chuckle with your “for sure for sure 👸” 😂
@@Carmendot2 Yeah, I've been wondering this lately. Every time I say "sure" I think I sound weird.
Dr. Honda is the sweetest 😂 he basically said he would be friends w everyone and liked them all- much more mature than I am lol
In German, the saying isn’t “love is blind” but “love makes blind”. They use this translation as a title for the show but I feel like the meaning is totally different. It’s more about not seeing issues like red flags etc
German here too.. Yes, love makes us blind in the sense that we won't see red flags and abusive behaviour because we choose not to look there.. We are blind and in denial.. Completely different from the English saying.. Has nothing to do with looks... Grüsse aus Berlin
@@Chrisy0850 Agree! Grüße aus Saarbrücken
I don't dislike Amy or Johnny, but not gunna lie, I fast forward through all of their scenes lol! So when you said "Amy" I was like "who's Amy?!" lol
Me too
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 same. I felt kinda bad. We're here for the mess, people!
Same! 😅😅
I swear I still can't remember their names 🙉 their edit was very bland... there are those perfect couples but still interesting and memorable
I love your defense of male-female friendships. I always have felt so strongly about this and can be frustrated around people's closemindedness about this topic. I think that both men and women are more fuller when they have co ed friendships, it builds an apperciation for others that is not just built on atractiveness and opens up your mind to other persepectives and feelings. And having these traits is really healthy foundations for marriage.
I think Jimmy and Jess would have been *better for each other BUT I think in that alternate reality we would have seen a lot more of Jimmy's issues highlighted (as far as what we've seen displayed so far)
Whether or not they would have lasted as a couple is unknowable.
I go back and forth about Sarah sending the text. I mean, it's messy but wasnt like she said "you and Laura won't work and I want you back, so I hope you come to your senses"--that would've been bad. The worst part for me was Jaremy's response, and then how Sarah Anne acted when she was confronted. The text itself wasn't that bad and she could've easily acknowledged that it was sent in a moment of emotional distress .... people send stupid texts all the time. But Jeramy didn't have to "like" it. And it was all compounded by him lying. If he hadn't met up with her, lied where he was, I wonder how big a deal the text would be. I think for some of the girls they see the text as being the reason why they had a secret meeting
32:43 ugh I have a friend who confessed his love for me while drunk. I’m married and reacted very badly. I wish I had said no with more compassion and had encouraged him to get help with his drinking problem. But it did really feel like a betrayal as Dr. Honda said in the moment. He disappeared and we have never spoken since. A real shame
❤ that’s rough
34:00 I believe men and women can be friends and that people can be friends with their exes (I am!). But I think to defend the camp that's uncomfortable with Jimmy here, I think it comes from negative experiences of a partner completely downplaying the nature of a connection with someone in their life. I know PLENTY of women who have had the experience of 'definition creep' with a dating partner, which starts out with 'this is my female friend' and then more information comes out and it's 'ok, so my friend and I did mess around, so what?' and then it's 'yeah, sometimes we still mess around from time to time, don't be so nosy' to 'yeah I stay over at her house a few nights a month' to 'ok, fine, we've been casually dating for a year, but it's not exclusive......' and so on, and so on. The problem is that some men in the dating app and hookup era use creative definitions of the word 'friend' to allow themselves maximum freedom. I'm sure many women can also relate to thinking they are dating a man exclusively for months, only to be introduced as 'a friend'. So because many women have experienced being burned by these half truths, over time their brain just jumps to, 'ok, he's dating multiple women, including her, BS she's just a friend'. HECK, one of my friends experienced a man she met on a dating app introduce the mother of his child as 'just a friend'. So I get the suspicion, contextualized through those experiences.
Nailed it!
I understand your perspective. At the end of the day, those are still distortions based on traumatic experiences. They don’t necessarily predict or reflect reality, even though people may FEEL like they do.
I think at that point, the boundary is "This situation coupled with my experiences gives me too much doubt and anxiety that I don't think can be relieved unless you (cut them off / not see them alone / only see them when I'm there / etc). I understand that you may genuinely have a platonic friendship with them right now with no other intentions, but I do not want to be in a relationship under these circumstances. If you are unwilling to adjust to this boundary, then we are simply incompatible and we will have to go our separate ways."
I think the problematic part is when the Chelseas of the world DEMAND to be catered to and start using manipulative tactics to get their way like invoking "respect", claiming it's a universally expected condition of a relationship, stigmatizing by alluding to a stereotype ("I don't want to be with someone like THAT" / "Oh, you're one of THOSE" / "that's what (bad type of person) say" / etc), or using all-encompassing terminology to victimize themselves and get sympathy ("you never loved me" / "you never tried" / etc.)
Please go watch the Jimmy/Chelsea interview on Nick Viall files… its will explain what Jimmy was really doing and what he asked Chelsea cover up for him on video. There is more context. Besides, his girl buddy couldnt stop turning the conversation to sex talk, just toxic stuff. Jimmy needs to grow up…. Big time.
@@TTemple0714 Distortion is a clinical term that means 'either the unconscious process of altering emotions and thoughts that are unacceptable in the individual's psyche or the conscious misrepresentation of facts'. So, for example, screaming, 'I saw you kiss your friend!' when you in fact did not see them kiss a friend, you were not even at the party, would be a distortion. They are very severe psychological symptoms and they are terrible to be on the receiving end of. I would categorize Chelsea's 'you were with Jess, weren't you??' in one of the fights to be bordering on distortion, or at the least very unreasonably suspicious (she did phrase it as a question and we have to see if she changes her assumptions when presented with facts, in which case it's not a distortion). I have been on the receiving end of distortions, and they're terrifying. Being uncomfortable with your partner hanging out with friends of the opposite gender is not anywhere near a distortion, it's a preference. Preferences can be reasonable or unreasonable, but even an unreasonable preference is VERY far from 'distortions'. I was trying to explain why some women's life experiences give them those preferences, in the interests of expanding empathy, not advocating one right way. I started out the statement by making it clear I have opposite gender friends and don't personally see a problem with it. We have to be careful when using clinical terms on here, Dr. Honda is watching, lol!
You could talk about anything for 2 hours and I’m going to listen lol
Same. Dr H is so kind and relatable that it just feels like I’m hanging out with a friend.
@@dorcasg5558 agree 👍
My goodness! Almost 2 hours of Dr K!!??
Dr Honda can you please react to Chelsea and Jimmy's interview on the viall files?? It really helps get a better understanding of their relationship. It really painted Chelsea in a different light as it showed how evasive and dodgy Jimmy was when answering questions. Like he kind of talks in circles and answers but never actually answers the question. Kind of made me feel a bit more empathetic for Chelsea and how frustrating that would have been during the relationship. And how it probably made her insecurities 10 times worse.
Please
This!!!! Saint Jimmy had Chelsea covering for him all over the show- to protect him! He is a party boy!!! Please watch Viall files with both of them!!
Yep. Jimmy is awful. Literally the worst person for someone like Chelsea. Just a disaster.
Agreed, that whole interview made me have to apologize to my friend who was trying to tell me how toxic Jimmy was lol
They both have their issues.
An anecdote about OCD: in Jr High I had to eat my lunch in a certain order and the other kids figured out that I wouldn’t eat if they took the first item-they would pass it around under the table until the bell rang, so I would go back to class not having eaten because the “what ifs” of my order outweighed the need to eat at all. Brutal is accurate.
I think he is excited more than any other video when he said 'hey deserving listener!'
He said in a video that the subtitles were coming out wrong, so he’s saying it more clearly.
1:13:00- I think what this commenter means by 'most sexist season' this year (I agree, btw), is how much the show highlighted problematic/lying men this year, and in some cases either covered up the problems or failed to do due diligence. There's Matthew (said the same thing in the pods to at least two women), Jeramey (credible DV allegations came out from an ex, also lied while on the show), Trevor (had a partner the whole time and therefore lied by omission to everyone, threatened to release revenge p to silence ex), Clay's Dad (serial cheater and liar), and to a lesser extent, Clay (some people would say he lied about ever thinking he wanted to get married, and he humiliated AD on the altar). There was also all the terrible commentary about AD's body, coming from both men and women. That is a whole lotta male/sexist nonsense for one season! 🤣
I also think everything about Jimmy's response to Jessica or even Jessica's belief that she's a lot to handle has a lot of baked in sexism to it.
@@JillianRowenThat was on the top of my list too. I really think it's the conservatism of NC.
I think Jimmy would have had a hard time with Jess. I think Jimmy and AD would have been a better match. She would give him the uplifting he needs and he would have given AD the adoration she seems to need
i swear i watch these videos in my conscious hours buuuut i might also definitely maybe keep doc H’s LIB season 6 videos playing to help me sleep and through the night. he’s so calming and reliable and dependable and even tempered and soothing!!!!
I know this was a small part of the video, but thank you so much for always being an advocate for people with OCD! You have no idea how validating it is to hear someone address the reality of the condition so often.
37:46 honestly I don’t think it’s very common to have sex with your best friend and remain friends. My husband is good friends with one of his exes (we went to her wedding even), and I’m friends with one of mine. But being friends with an ex is really different in that that story has played out. My ex told me that he loved me like a sister and gently said that he knew I wasn’t the one. You can never come back from that. Similarly, I would sooner trust my husband with his ex, whom he dumped, than someone he hooked up with and remained best friends with and spoke to every day. I would feel like a third wheel and would wonder why they aren’t dating if they had chemistry and if they had that deep of a friendship. It doesn’t make sense. And the way the friend (presumably) speculated that Jimmy would never turn down sex when she met Chelsea… I would die of discomfort in Chelsea’s shoes. And listen, I’m no prude. I got with my husband because we went to Burning Man and did molly together. In Chelsea’s shoes, I would have a hard time believing that there has been closure. Should she have revealed it on TV? I think she could have voiced her concern without her or Jimmy outing the friend (which they actually did together - she said it was not his close friends, and he said it was someone who had been in front of cameras). But I think the friendship was going to be an issue because it feels unfinished. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jimmy and his friend ended up dating.
Yeah, I agree with all of this. Also, the girl outed herself when she said “did he cry? He’s a crier.” I knew they’d had sex before they got to the episode with the outing fight because the friend talked about it. I could see it making Chelsea sad that Jimmy’s friend was talking about how he cries during sex especially if he didn’t cry with Chelsea. That would suck. But maybe the friend was talking about crying with something else and this all went over my head.
37:53 PREACH Dr. Honda! 👏👏👏 I value my male and female friends equally because they each bring out different aspects of who I am. I also love that my husband has friends of both genders and he spends time with them. When we were dating, it was a huge green flag that he had female friends who he sought advice and input from. It showed me that he respected women, valued their input and sought diverse perspectives.
Society: "Men and women can't be friends because they will sleep with each other!"
Me (queer/bisexual): 👁👄👁
Edit: Wow I have various forms of OCD but have never heard about relationship OCD! The 'what if I'm not actually in love, how do I even know what love is' is such a familiar thought.
It drives me nuts when people say men and women can’t be friends. I’ve had people lecture me in the past about how I “don’t understand what guys are really up to if they act like they’re your friend” (the implication was that it’s never platonic and the guys are just trying to sneak their way into your bed). What these people don’t realise is that I **know** exactly what that kind of sly, fake friend is like because I had one - a guy who acted like he was my friend for over a year and then assaulted me the first time I was alone with him at his house. So yeah, I get it - some guys might act friendly because they have ulterior motives, and I’m not blind to that, but should I assume all guys are like that? You know, for a lot of years I did believe that because of the trauma of what happened, but I know now that it was a distorted belief. I do currently have some guy friends and I don’t believe they’ve all got ulterior motives - I’m still quite guarded and if I’m triggered then it’s not surprising that in my mind all of my guy friends become enemy number 1 (I’m still in therapy working on this over time), but I’m happy to say though that one of my guy friends is actually my best friend and we’re like twins separated at birth or something 🤗 I want for everyone to have awesome best friends like mine regardless of gender because we all deserve friends! 💕🫶🏻
The opening rant is literally the plot of The Lobster. People come to a facility to find a partner, and if they can't, they get turned into an animal of their choice.
Took me a couple of minutes to remember who Amy was/is lol.
Kirk, I think you are really upset about the treatment of Chelsea online because you see the wounded child behind her actions. But before watching your videos, I thought she was choosing to behave like that and I was really angry that she would treat someone like that.
Please watch jimmy and Chelsea on the Viall files! It goes to all of this…. PLEASE!!!!
Watching Jimmy and Chelsea's interactions I had no doubt that it was an abusive relationship. It made me feel really concerned for Jimmy knowing that actually he won't probably be able to see it this way as like Dr Honda said it's difficult for men to recognize it. I had an abusive partner in my 20's who behaved exactly the same way and said literally the same things to me about having male friends or leaving home. It ended when he became physically abusive and I left. It was a horrible experience that made me anxious and avoidant for years as I was always worried it might happen to me again. As an understanding and compassionate person I tried to understand where my ex insecurities came from but no matter what that relationship really hurt me. I'm not saying that Jimmy is a perfect partner and we don't know what happened behind cameras but still what Chelsea did is hurtful and unfair and I really hope that they both can heal and grow. Being hurt in your childhoood, having traumas does not allow people to abuse their partners. That's something I had to remind myself everytime I think about my past.
Actually we do now know what happened and how the show and Jimmy threw her under the bus… watch Nick Viall interview with both of them on there. I know there are emotionally abusive people… but we shouldnt put that on Chelsea from what they showed vs what we now know they left out. That doesnt mean those relationships dont exist, I just dont think this is the example Dr Honda thought it was. Just an opinion though.
Thank you for showing a screenshot of the data on people who complete suicide. It was really helpful to see the visual 🙏
Dr Honda, you’ve adopted an Irish accent when saying “sure” 😂 “shoo-er”
46:02 Lol the bunny looking relaxed. 😂
Chelsea’s aggressiveness is why people really did not like or understand her. Her actions came off wayyy more abusive more than zeneb or daniel.
I think men and women can be friends and some people can be friends with some exes. I think the way the breakup went down has a lot to do with whether they can or should be friends afterward. If the breakup was pretty civil and they're both reasonably secure, great. But in a situation where the breakup was dramatic, one continued to pursue the other when the other was trying to move on, or there was abuse on either side, no you probably shouldn't be friends.
Texting all day every day with an ex would be a red flag for me.
Getting together occasionally or celebrating their birthday wouldn't necessarily be a red flag imo.
I agree, the texting wouldn’t be a deal breaker, but I won’t lie and say I wouldn’t struggle with it (but that’s likely because the prototype I have in my mind of how that has looked in my past relationships is the person is clearly having an emotional affair through that relationship). I think it’s also bc I’ve always had male friends, and (looking back - I was much younger and would likely do it differently nowadays) but I was definitely the person many of them were having emotional affairs with. The relationships were not as platonic as I thought/told myself they were at the time. But, I have also had many experiences where this didn’t happen. Both realities are true and it honestly just depends on whether the person in the relationship if breaking the boundaries that they’ve agreed upon prior.
I think Dr. H is missing a lot of the internet activities that lead to his subscribers voting some people at a lower rank. For example, Sarah Ann's tiktok post made it easier for people to not like her.
It’s interesting hearing you express your sympathy for Chelsea. It’s not something I share and I don’t see her as a victim as you do but I’ve learned a lot based on your interpretation of her behavior. I’m just not convinced that she can’t help this and it is just based in some trauma. She seems very manipulative to me. I’ve dealt with Chelsea’s before which impacts my view of her for sure but I have found that this behavior can be quite intentional and controlling. That may not be the case here though so I appreciate the different perspective.
Just watched baby reindeer, would love to know what you thought
Omg me too. I can't stop thinking about this show. It would be amazing to hear Dr Honda thoughts.
It’s also a common experience for women to be expected to be cool about female friends but their partner isn’t honest with them about how friendly they still are. Most girls don’t want to have to face the female friend situation because it’s too easy to get burnt even after trying to be trusting.
I think LIB made a very conscious decision to NOT "go after" Chelsea or do or say anything to negatively affect her mental health - maybe upon advice from her therapist, their legal team, and/or Chelsea's request. That was my thought when the reunion ended without addressing ANY of the Chelsea-Jimmy arguments, and I thought, "Probably wise. . . and surprisingly ethical to forgo that entertainment value for the sake of her mental health . . but good decision." Dr. Honda's BPD series around those fights really calmed and resolved my reactionary emotions around her behavior.
I recently saw an interview of Chelsea that painted a totally different picture of Jimmy and how he showed up in the relationship while they were on the show. Made me think differently of Chelsea’s reactions.
I guess summed up, she said that he went out and said he was staying in for the night at his place and butt dialed her and she heard other ppl in the background. I guess he was lying to her about stuff.
I've seen a few of her interviews as well and find myself having more and more empathy for her. That being said, I find myself wanting more specifics from her as well. I get the sense she is protecting Jimmy while simultaneously throwing him under the bus. Or, her perception of events is still so warped that she's just digging in her heels to her being right. Regardless of what it is, no one deserves the amount of hate that was directed at her. She is a champ for the way she handled it.
@@SpottedTiger89 she said he was getting upset with her for talking about it and revealing some things that went on. I was actually surprised at the things she said! I had perceived their relationship and Jimmy differently.
Chelsea distorted perceptions are not worth listening to
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@007nadineL
Well for me, the fact that what she says seems to add up to the edit, the fact that Jimmy never denies anything she says, the fact that Jess seems to agree with her and Jeramy also concurs that Jimmy was afraid of a bad edit tells me she's not entirely distorted. Meanwhile, we also know given the reunion that Jimmy is just as capable of distorting things.
I don't think the problem with Sarah's DM was in what she said, it's in when she sent it. I wouldn't blame someone for wanting to connect if their engagement didn't work out... but you should really wait until that person is single instead of throwing a wrench in the situation that might distract and taint the experience. It would have been a matter of a few weeks. She could have and should have waited. She should have given Laura and Jeramy a fair shot without complicating matters.
I think Jimmy and Jessica would've been a great match. I hope they date. I think Jessica would've helped Jimmy learn to communicate more.
Too late now. That ship is damaged has sailed
@@YaroslavnaKadulina says who? There's no reason why they couldn't still date.
I don’t think Jimmy can handle a woman who challenges him. I think he would be miserable
And I believe Jessica deserves better. We are too grown to be training men. A woman who challenges you isn’t challenging your masculinity.
@@PrincessToad you're joking right? What else was Chelsea but one huge challenge? And as a woman myself, I did find Jess to be too confrontational at times. Jimmy learned a lot during this experience and I think they would've been just fine. Besides, he doesn't need to "handle" her. She's not an animal. And it's not "training". If you think you're going to find the perfect partner who doesn't need to work on anything on themselves with your help as their partner, you're delusional. He doesn't even have much to work on.
in regards to how to evaluate your own opinions on "liked/disliked" cast members, maybe think of it as least to most problematic lmao i think that's how i viewed the rankings
*It makes zero sense for Jeramy to have hotten engaged to stay on the show. He had options. If he wasn't really into Laura, he could've just proposed to Sarah in the first place*
At one point during the reunion, AD said to Clay, “[it was all a waste because] I could have been what you needed” rather than “we were truly in love and we could have worked it out together” which is a different (less differentiated) narrative than the one Clay was offering. I still think she’s great, and agree she obviously has strengths, it just seems she still has that self awareness chasm to cross.
Thank you for talking about OCD, I agree that relationship OCD is particular. I suffer with it myself and I have gone through many OCD types but when I had "relationship" OCD Ivwas in fear that I was a terrible person and a cheater and that my partner needed to know all my thoughts or I was a cheater so I would confess some of the most bizarre thoughts and I would just reveal them because if I didn't I was convinced I was horrible. Ive literally have had some terrible moments with other themes where I had mental break downs where I felt I was losing touch with reality and would cry due to my thoughts it would eat away at me. I definitely do not see Clay as having relationship OCD but more of just genuine concerns due to his experiences.
7:25 Same - some of my best friends have had major issues or been deemed "annoying" or difficult to get along with by other people. Does that say something about me/us? I tend to think that I don't seek out those traits necessarily but I'm open/forgiving of a wide range of traits.
Now I’m confused. Wasn’t the Jimmy F. bit about Jimmy and Jessica and the “you stormed out after ten minutes “ thing? I don’t remember anything about Chelsea.
If you ever decided to change your pod name or create new one, please consider "Yammering with Dr. Honda".
I don’t watch love is blind. I just watch your videos. ❤😂
Jeramey being the most hated makes me so happy. 😂
As a bachelor fan, people can be on reality TV for both reasons. You also don't know if you'll make the cut on this show. And you don't know how they will cut your story. So if it's favorable take advantage of the success you're given knowing how much hate and scrutiny each person goes through
Can you show pictures of participants you are talking about? I forget their names and who you are talking about
Would you consider rewatching Geoffrey from 90 day now that we know about his abusive behavior? You mentioned Jeremy being the worst who you reacted to but he doesn’t come close to Geoffrey.
I think that the people with trauma are the most interesting and funniest people. Maybe why you get along with them. I have a similar story, I've had a lot therapy though!!! lol
*If a guy sees his dream girl, then he's ready for marriage. If a guy is not that into a girl, then all of a sudden, guy quickly has all these insurmountable problems and issues.*
Just because something is ancient doesn't mean it's wrong. May be there are people who can be friends with oposite gender and there are some who can't, we can see it as incompatibility and not judge how others feel about things. Chelsea was very rude about his choise and she should find better way to expres her feelings, but she doesn't have to be ok with that if she is not.
the hot takes about women’s appearances (botox, lashes, etc) really upset me. when will people stop worrying about other women’s appearances? they’re not doing it for YOU. they’re doing it for themselves because they like it.
I have preoccupied attachment and relationship OCD 😂
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This season there was a lot more of camera footage on womens' body parts then any other season...or it felt like that to me.
He was not gone for an hour, he butt dialed her. We already saw his perception of time is thwarted during the reunion
He put her in a terrible place… having to cover for him on camera- and he still gets upset when she speaks her truth… so mad he got a sparkly clean edit!
I recall Chelsea saying “you were not gone for long, I’ll give you that.”
You’re conflating two separate incidents. Jimmy was gone for only an hour and then they had the really bad fight. After they made up, Jimmy still wanted to go out but didn’t want to get in trouble with Chelsea so he said he’d stay at his own place and then accidentally butt dialed her (if we believe Chelsea’s recount). I genuinely believe Jimmy the first time but I think he got sneaky after she accused him of seeing Jess and tried to ban him from his friends. They should have just broken up after the fight instead of him sneaking around. It’s good they didn’t make it to the altar.
Love is blind; marriage, not so much
There's got to be some sort of limit on how often you can text a friend without it just having an odd vibe. It is more understandable to talk to friends more when you are in a new and intense relationship like this one, but it still indicates some sort of disconnect from your new partner. In that early period you kind of have to really into the "new love feeling" and if it's not there, then something is wrong. You'd probably just be talking about all your concerns and if it is constant throughout the day it suggests you have too many for the relationship to be viable.
On top of it all, if the person you are the closest with is a friend with whom you slept with in the past that does again raise questions about why you are so so close to that person in particular. May be if that is one of your oldest friends then ok, but most simple explanation would be that you might just actually be into that person
You are looking at Chelsea as a mental professional. Most people world not see what you see. However, i agree about the awful things people said about Chelsea AND Jeremy.
55:32 TW! mentions of suicide
I wonder if the issue with men being less liked and women being more often to be piled on and attacked/bullied by the audience is to do with the audience demographics (I assume) being primarily made up of women. And women tend to bully/attack other women while men will bully/attack other men.
It's fine for everyone to have their own beliefs around men and women being friends but don't push beliefs onto others. It's good to respect differences. People have different experiences.
I hadn't really thought about likes/dislikes (I guess I keep missing the polls, or its for paid members?)
But now that I'm thinking about it I didn't really dislike any of the cast. I was more critical of some than others but I don't dislike them.
With more data; I might have stronger feelings towards Sarah Ann, Jeremy or Trevor but yeah, I'm trying to keep an open mind, so no strong opinions either way.
Im late to this video, but people need to stop yucking other people's yum!
All this about fake eyelashes and filler/surgery is so unnecessary to comment on! Let people live!
1:28:00 Jimmy is a bad guy!!!! Watch viall files!!!
Did she address why she wanted to stay with him if he was so bad?
No - I am saying he is a bad guy. he made her pretend he wasnt going out all the time for his reputation, he didnt want to seem like a party boy. He lied and said he was in bed at his own apartment on night then butt dials her with an apartment full of friends ready to go out. He came out and said he has taken a step back from being so enmeshed with his girl crew in the past, but didnt want to for Chelsea. He is just a party boy who doesnt want to settle down and made Chelsea cover for him. Its gross. Just watch the Viall files interview with them both on.
That is such black or white thinking. Plus, you’re making such a grand negative judgment based on one person’s perspective. Shame on you
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I felt bad that Trevor was kicked out and the way the went about it. It might be something in my past but it felt like being alienated at high school.
I’ve been excluded in high school too but Trevor’s behavior was cruel and manipulative and he deserved to be called out and not given regard.
Sarah Ann and Jeremy are my least favorite lol.
Is this first time realizing that Fallon has no morals?