25 Minutes of Godzilla: Save the Earth - Melee Gameplay

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
  • An exclusive look at some late-night games between myself and one of our visual designers, Margo!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:33 ROUND 1 Fire Rodan (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)
    4:00 ROUND 2 Gigan (Gojirex) vs Fire Rodan (Margo)
    5:13 ROUND 3 SpaceGodzilla (Gojirex) vs Kiryu (Margo)
    7:56 Fight 2 of Round 3
    10:11 ROUND 4 Destoroyah (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)
    13:00 Fight 2 of Round 4
    16:23 ROUND 5 Jet Jaguar (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)
    19:36 Fight 2 of Round 5
    21:47 Fight 3 of Round 5
    25:08 ROUND 6 Gigan (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)

Комментарии • 115

  • @JamalsNotSoSmol812
    @JamalsNotSoSmol812 2 года назад +36

    Can’t wait to see what you do to Godzilla himself both 2000 and 90’s also curious on what your favorite monster is now with the new improvements

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +31

      Just like the last level you should design in a game is Level 1, the last monsters I'll be overhauling are the Godzillas. They need to be the teachers, the beginner characters, they have to be perfect.
      So far, my favorite character with the improvements is Super Mechagodzilla.

    • @Gojirawars03
      @Gojirawars03 2 года назад +4

      @@Gojirex SMG, eh? Sounds very promising

    • @Mike.F2005
      @Mike.F2005 2 года назад +3

      Can I just say y’all out did your selfs this game is so amazing I would buy it it’s that good looking keep up the good work love it

    • @Sqodefanandkirafan
      @Sqodefanandkirafan 4 месяца назад

      THERE IS A NEW ONE OF THE 2014'S

  • @cosmonius4932
    @cosmonius4932 2 года назад +32

    I'm super excited to see what skins Gigan gets when STEM is finished, I've always dreamed of fighting Showa Gigan while playing as Final Wars Gigan. I'm curious to see how Megalon turns out as well! Excellent work as always, Nastysoft crew!

    • @themoviejudge557
      @themoviejudge557 2 года назад +1

      That’s funny because as of the June 2021 reveal, Gigan ‘72 and Gigan ‘04 are separate characters with i think different move sets! I was thinking the same thing and I’m so glad when that reveal happened

  • @Tez_Kiryu
    @Tez_Kiryu 2 года назад +18

    I haven't seen many masterpieces in my lifetime but this is definitely one of them. Great work

  • @bet0v966
    @bet0v966 2 года назад +9

    Hearing a remix of Bagan’s theme on this excellent project hit me straight in the kaiju feels

  • @yoelmaza8541
    @yoelmaza8541 2 года назад +13

    I love the fact that before the battle when the monsters do their intros their themes of the movies sound for a little time. You guys really did an amazing job, not only when it comes to major changes, but also with little details like this!

  • @matiasshaw2185
    @matiasshaw2185 2 года назад +11

    I love the graphics honestly. This looks pretty cool. I just wish it was on PS4.

  • @bearminthos
    @bearminthos 2 года назад +7

    At 13:50, is where I see the huge improvement as far as textures, colors and scale go and I LOVE it. Especially when Destroyah throws Gigan and sucks him back to him only to be slammed on multiple buildings. That's Satisfying and intense lol Great work!!

  • @VaporWaveGaming1990
    @VaporWaveGaming1990 Год назад +2

    @20:39 That evangelion sound track slaps hard with this fight.
    I always wanted to play this game with the classic toho music playing too, THAT DESTROY ALL MONSTERS THEME! ONE BANGER AFTER ANOTHER

  • @Godzilla-tu2cd
    @Godzilla-tu2cd 2 года назад +7

    Happy 50th anniversary Gigan🎉🎊👏👏👏👏👏

    • @GoIfy
      @GoIfy 2 года назад

      All hail Gigan

  • @JZillah_
    @JZillah_ 2 года назад +4

    I like what you did with the intros. Especially with Jet Jaguar growing from human size (I think) to kaiju size.

  • @spinosaurusstriker
    @spinosaurusstriker 2 года назад +2

    I just hope this proyect continues and ends, no matter how many years it takes, unlike other proyects who only get cancelled, the work of all of you seem to be producing a masterpiece, dont loose focus.

  • @MarioRyu
    @MarioRyu 2 года назад +2

    that was some pure combo madness and worth watching hope to see what other crazy combos you give the other Kaiju's

  • @watchinglearner
    @watchinglearner 2 года назад +3

    The new Spacegodzilla is awesome. I'm curious to see what you'll do with Megalon and Orga. One thing I'll say about Gigan, if at all possible he could use a bit more blue in the hip and shoulder straps. Or maybe that could be one of his alternate skins?

  • @jacobvelasquez8494
    @jacobvelasquez8494 2 года назад +6

    This should be an official special edition.

    • @doom7ish
      @doom7ish 2 года назад +2

      Hell yeah it should be.

  • @KaijuLover
    @KaijuLover 2 года назад +1

    wow this looks amazing so far and this is only a work in progress

  • @Jeffzilla07PHaltacct
    @Jeffzilla07PHaltacct 2 года назад +1

    Man that looks beautiful! I wish could play it after it's finished!

  • @TheHorns1996
    @TheHorns1996 2 года назад +6

    I take it Megalon's next?

  • @KevinGhidor_uh
    @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад +9

    That laugh in the end 27:51
    It's Megalon

  • @doom7ish
    @doom7ish 2 года назад +1

    I honestly can't wait.

  • @mayozilla
    @mayozilla Год назад +1

    Nice addition that now spacegodzilla creates more crystals to attack.👍

  • @udzalthegreatest
    @udzalthegreatest 2 года назад +2

    Not gonna lie, I liked the original voice from Godzilla Destroy All Monsters Melee.

  • @10dev785
    @10dev785 2 года назад

    Ok this is almost INSANE for me. OH MY GOD you guys really did it. YOU REALLY DID IT!!!!.............this is as close as it can get for us getting a new STE game. I will take it. This is enough for meeeeeee. This is so good. Ok

  • @cymandeh
    @cymandeh 5 месяцев назад

    cant wait for this

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 2 года назад +3

    Wow, didn't know Fire Rodan was a new character added! How did he even get an announcer clip if he wasn't in the original game?
    It was really fun to watch the game in action. Seems like a really fun and interesting fighting game with the fast gameplay! Tho I do wonder something else: Kiryu is never shown in gameplay to use the Absolute Zero Cannon. Is he able to do so in game?

    • @KoeKoe69
      @KoeKoe69 2 года назад +3

      "announcer clip" is not from original game files. They have voice actors.

  • @theamazingspiral
    @theamazingspiral 2 года назад +2

    11:34 Destoroyah: You vape, brah?

  • @ohiho3293
    @ohiho3293 3 месяца назад

    Cant believe this is two years old

  • @slendymann2647
    @slendymann2647 2 года назад +3

    The unleashed models would look epic as hell to include in such a packed and beautiful modded game

  • @espialobo94
    @espialobo94 2 года назад

    The monsters will have endings like unleashed or something like that? Good Job the Game looks awsome

  • @realshinultraman1634
    @realshinultraman1634 2 года назад +1

    Good Video

  • @cjcurtisplus5
    @cjcurtisplus5 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if you could implement the option to fall down on command to evade attacks. Probably wouldn't work as intended but still

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +1

      This was actually a mechanic that was fully implemented and then removed after playtesting (hitstun canceling.) It just doesn’t fit with the game and changed the entire game fundamentally, for the worse in my opinion, STEM is defined by its elaborate long combos.

  • @GretaA.
    @GretaA. 2 года назад

    loving the music, here! but was curious, will there be a way to play either the original STE music or just the original movie scores during fights? that amount of options would be greatly appreciated since it'd be nice to capture that raw "Toho Movie" vibe to rounds!

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад

      The base game of STEM won't launch with any non-original arrangements, or even content for that matter. But it is quite easy to mod, and the music converter tool is easy to use, so any songs can be put into your own copy of the game.

    • @KevinGhidor_uh
      @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад

      @@Gojirex Will all of STEM's songs be in Toku Radio or this channel?

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад

      @@KevinGhidor_uh From now on, all the songs will be on Zane A. Goen's channel. ruclips.net/user/ZaneGoenMusic

  • @MarshStar
    @MarshStar 2 года назад +4

    ggs

  • @alexbelair2776
    @alexbelair2776 4 месяца назад

    Is there a long version of the theme that plays in the Jet Jaguar introduction?

  • @gojizirra1018
    @gojizirra1018 2 года назад +1

    I can't wait to see How you modify Godzilla 200 and 90's! (PLEASE Tell me you'll give'em more Movie accurate Roars!!!!!)

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +1

      They will have heisei-specific and millennium-specific roars, respectively.

    • @gojizirra1018
      @gojizirra1018 2 года назад +1

      @@Gojirex soo for heisei, will he have roars akin to early heisie,(84-91) or will it be more LATE Heisie? (92-95) (Or will it be a mix of both?)

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +1

      @@gojizirra1018 I'm not too sure, Toku Society does the sound effects for the game.
      Heisei Godzilla is primarily based on 1989. He does have a Burning skin though, but I think his roars are 89-91.
      Godzilla 2000 has specifically 2000 roars.

    • @gojizirra1018
      @gojizirra1018 2 года назад +1

      @@Gojirex I just hope it happens to include the "98 Zilla" SFX that were used in the American cut of that movie (Though I'd imagine probably not)
      BTW Will both Godzilla's be receiving Movie accurate Makeovers like you did to SpaceGodzilla and Destroyah?

  • @lil-chris2760
    @lil-chris2760 Год назад

    It looks fuckin awesome I’m excited but what platforms will the game be on

  • @Vnull031
    @Vnull031 2 года назад +1

    Could you play this on a PS2? in ISO format??

  • @bdoolzzzz
    @bdoolzzzz 6 месяцев назад +1

    God I wish Toho would just hire you guys so you could officially release this on consoles…

  • @happymonkeyfish
    @happymonkeyfish 5 месяцев назад

    It looks like it took some inspiration from smash bros, especially melee with the faster pace, is there/ going to be advance techs like a wavedash style technique in this mod?

  • @coltonstiles8458
    @coltonstiles8458 2 года назад

    will this be on Steam at all?

  • @MC-oy8mh
    @MC-oy8mh 2 года назад

    I’m assuming this is the case, but are balance changes going to continue to be made to the game? From watching the first two matches, it felt like Rodan had to hit Gigan three times as much to do equal damage. I personally always felt Save the Earth was extremely unbalanced in certain matchups based on the strengths/weaknesses stats system. I felt like DAMM was more balanced. The game is looking amazing though!

    • @warpath313
      @warpath313 2 года назад

      Well Rodan and Gigan are bad match ups, considering that one of Rodan's weaknesses is piercing damage. But Gigan would have a much harder time against someone like MG2 or 3 since Mechs are resistant to piercing. Rodan's a very Blitzy type character who can Dish out the damage, but has a hard time taking it. I think He needs a damage boost, but as far as taking hits- it's fairly reasonable.

    • @MC-oy8mh
      @MC-oy8mh 2 года назад +1

      @@warpath313 See, that’s my point; the whole strengths/weaknesses system is what made GSTE so unbalanced. Some matchups literally felt unplayable (Baragon VS. King Ghidorah for example). I just personally feel that either some big adjustments should be made to the strengths/weaknesses system, or just scrap it all together and balance the game more like DAMM. I just think the game being so matchup heavy is part of what hurt GSTE.

  • @KevinGhidor_uh
    @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад +3

    Gojirex? May I ask what was Rodan doing here : 2:44?

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад

      He was charging him beam. In STEM, he can change the direction he's facing while charging and firing his Uranium beam.

    • @KevinGhidor_uh
      @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад

      @@Gojirex Ooh, interesting.

  • @Dinoboy06
    @Dinoboy06 2 года назад +2

    I wonder what Godzilla’s model looks like…

  • @Deka-Kaizer
    @Deka-Kaizer 6 месяцев назад

    12:58 Ouch! He was already dead!

  • @Gojix_Editor
    @Gojix_Editor 2 года назад

    Is this a Remastered Version of Godzilla Save The Earth?

  • @XbladedGG
    @XbladedGG 5 месяцев назад

    ik this is probably the wrong place to ask, but when trying to play the demo of v0.01, all my textures are messed up. Parts of characters appear black, and the ui when trying to start a match is almost unreadable. please help

  • @EuanOLeary
    @EuanOLeary 2 года назад

    Got any links for the music?

    • @KevinGhidor_uh
      @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/p/PLY9tfiQmWC_Nl9LnLc_L3_VaRhGCidUbS
      Here's the full current playlist

  • @ripper8399
    @ripper8399 2 года назад

    HOLY THERES GODZILLA SAVE THE Earth 2 my god i need to buy that and drop save the earth 1

  • @andreskershner8217
    @andreskershner8217 2 года назад +2

    That's new.

  • @xxGojira54
    @xxGojira54 Год назад

    How do I play this game?!

  • @evanblue5591
    @evanblue5591 2 года назад +2

    0:42 whats the name of the music?

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +3

      A rearrangement of "Fight Theme 6" from Destroy All Monsters - Melee. Rearrangement was done by Zane A. Goen and it can be found on RUclips by searching "Stem fight theme 6."

    • @evanblue5591
      @evanblue5591 2 года назад

      @@Gojirex thanks

  • @Number1InternecionCubeFan2023
    @Number1InternecionCubeFan2023 2 года назад +1

    after save the earth- melee we will have save the earth- brawl.

    • @soiljahboi
      @soiljahboi 2 года назад +3

      And save the earth ultimate

  • @autisticgodzilla-
    @autisticgodzilla- 2 года назад

    Is the story going to be the same or a new story??

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +2

      Action mode has some major changes.

    • @autisticgodzilla-
      @autisticgodzilla- 2 года назад +2

      @@Gojirex can't wait to see it, keep up the good work. I would like to see more of the reworks on STEM

  • @SomeKindaSpy
    @SomeKindaSpy 6 месяцев назад

    NGL I'd love a Fire Rodan skin based off of the KOTM Rodan.

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  6 месяцев назад +1

      This is actually a skin he will have! Check the image posts on this channel to see new monsters and skins coming to the game.

    • @SomeKindaSpy
      @SomeKindaSpy 6 месяцев назад

      @@Gojirex Oh hell yeah! Thanks for the quick response! :O

  • @93Monstermike
    @93Monstermike Год назад

    Toho, please allow this game to be licensed and be released onto consoles!

  • @jacarola4
    @jacarola4 2 года назад

    how do i get this pls n thx

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад

      Not available yet! Stay tuned for announcements.

  • @davidmadaj5077
    @davidmadaj5077 Год назад

    I will say it looks awesome. I have the original game from counsel. Also I'm not I guess what you call a techey. Or you can say something like game's for dummies. How would I purchase this game and or is it only for computer. Because I'm a Godzilla fan and if possible I would like to purchase it. Please help and thanks

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  Год назад

      This is a mod for Save the Earth that is free to download and can be played only on computer.

  • @arch9909
    @arch9909 Год назад

    praying showa mechagodzilla gets added

  • @gogiofficalnew
    @gogiofficalnew 2 года назад

    I wonder if there will be a version for consoles

  • @10dev785
    @10dev785 2 года назад

    Ok can we have a situation where there is 2 against 1??? Like can i make a team up against the computer????.........Thank you goid for PC gaming. This is why i came to the PC. Thank you modders

  • @KevinGhidor_uh
    @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:33 *ROUND 1* Fire Rodan (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)
    4:00 *ROUND 2* Gigan (Gojirex) vs Fire Rodan (Margo)
    5:13 *ROUND 3* SpaceGodzilla (Gojirex) vs Kiryu (Margo)
    7:56 *Fight 2 of Round 3*
    10:11 *ROUND 4* Destoroyah (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)
    13:00 *Fight 2 of Round 4*
    16:23 *ROUND 5* Jet Jaguar (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)
    19:36 *Fight 2 of Round 5*
    21:47 *Fight 3 of Round 5*
    25:08 *ROUND 6* Gigan (Gojirex) vs Gigan (Margo)

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +1

      Thank you, I've plugged this into the video.

    • @KevinGhidor_uh
      @KevinGhidor_uh 2 года назад

      @@Gojirex Apologies if I timestamped some of them a bit too early but it's close enough :) Thanks!

  • @mrfalzar9
    @mrfalzar9 2 года назад +3

    Soo this is gonna be mod or saparate game?

    • @kylebauer2874
      @kylebauer2874 2 года назад

      I'm curious about that myself

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +7

      It's a new game made using the existing engine as a foundation. It will be played on PC.

    • @Arsenoraptor1999071663937
      @Arsenoraptor1999071663937 2 года назад

      @@Gojirex wow, PC Godzilla game, it'll be very nice

    • @kylebauer2874
      @kylebauer2874 2 года назад +1

      .A NEW GODZILLA GAME!!!
      .Based on the gameplay of save the earth.
      = extreme hype
      Also can I just say you guy are doing a very great job. Keep up the great work. Will support you all the way.

    • @MrGameguyC
      @MrGameguyC 2 года назад +2

      Think of it as like Project M from Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

  • @Arsenoraptor1999071663937
    @Arsenoraptor1999071663937 2 года назад +1

    I wish destoroyah could fly

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +3

      Same. Unfortunately, we can’t import completely original animations yet. I have made the framework for him flying, it works well, we simply lack the takeoff, flying loop, and landing animations. Until proper animations can be converted to a readable format for the game, there are some unfortunate limitations with what we can do with the game. We all want Destoroyah to fly, and the moment it’s possible, I will make it happen. However, I can’t promise anything.

    • @Arsenoraptor1999071663937
      @Arsenoraptor1999071663937 2 года назад +1

      @@Gojirex wow, seems that you're struggling so much to make him flying, I really appreciate your works, but overall remodelling him and adding some new features in the game are enough bro, keep up the good works 👍👍👍

    • @SteamedPokehog
      @SteamedPokehog 2 года назад +1

      Fast-forward to April, and your wish has been granted

    • @Arsenoraptor1999071663937
      @Arsenoraptor1999071663937 2 года назад +2

      @@SteamedPokehog yups, glad to know that

  • @kenmaru777
    @kenmaru777 2 года назад +1

    Wow where I can play this?
    Pls add shin Godzilla and Mechagodzilla(2021)

  • @realshinultraman1634
    @realshinultraman1634 2 года назад +1

    Can you do King titan for ark as orga in new game Please mod

  • @fatangrygeek5746
    @fatangrygeek5746 2 года назад

    Screw "I'd buy that for a dollar." Heck, I'd pay the full price for this game when it's finished. Shut up and take my money. $49.99

  • @aidanterrebonne822
    @aidanterrebonne822 2 года назад +2

    Looks like you're moving in a solid direction for sure. Gigan looks like a ton of fun, same for kiryu and rodan. Building combos didn't seem to be functioning very well but I'm sure that'll be solved.
    Is destroyah too slow for combos? I'd hate to see her end up as the stereotypical low tier heavy character. If she's made too simple she'll become uninteresting, lacking depth or tools to compensate.

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +5

      I’m not sure I quite understand what you mean, there are a lot of examples of building combos in this video, and many were done by Destoroyah. Destoroyah’s combos aren’t very extensive, he doesn’t do 10 hit combos like Gigan or Fire Rodan, but he doesn’t need to. In 3 hits he can do just as much damage as them. Most of his combos also come from utilizing his orbs as well, as they greatly extend how many hits he can get in. The comeback at the end of the last Destoroyah game was a 2 hit and it did 50 damage. Character variety is very important to me...if Destoroyah was out here doing fast 10 hit combos like the rest of them, that wouldn’t be fitting to his character, and it would make the roster too homogeneous, and more importantly it’d be very toxic to fight. Destoroyah’s in a good spot currently, and he has a variety of weapons and tools in his kit that make him in depth.

    • @aidanterrebonne822
      @aidanterrebonne822 2 года назад

      @@Gojirex There's no issue with the damage the combos output, The issue seems to be that the openers don't offer much variety to the few linkers she has. If destroyah is just meant to be a setup character that's fine it just depends how effective those setups are. If they're simply one more hit to keep in mind in a block string I don't see much value. If they hit overhead and she forces a low block that's toxic. Tools like the zero g bomb being overhead and expensive to use make sense because you're paying energy to make a checkmate situation with guaranteed damage. The ugly stuff is when that's the only reliable setup tool because the orb hits mid and can only work if they're overcommiting and get hit mid animation.
      The REALLY ugly stuff comes from slow punishable normals with bad frame data making the hypothetical zero-g bomb necessary for creating opportunities for openers/pokes.
      If that's the case destroyah trying to zone you out and build meter to go in for her checkmate setup would likely be common. It's up to you whether you would want to encourage such tactics.

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +5

      The things you are talking about are more universal than you may think, the orbs hit at any height, even people laying on the ground, but I think a certain deeper layer needs to be applied when thinking about this game philosophically, and not just on the surface. The Gigan I was playing is not very good at the game (sorry Margo) and as such, tries to block everything that I do as his go-to response to pressure. That’s why I am constantly grabbing him as Destoroyah throughout the match. Constantly grabbing as Destoroyah isn’t optimal, but it is to beat this player, as they never adapted to it. The orb itself is useful for a variety of situations, most notably, what I use it for here are two major things:
      -Block pressure
      -Insurance
      For block pressure, I would throw out an orb and run with it next to me, which essentially means that my run has a hitbox. This forces a response from my opponent, and that response is always something you can react to. For Margo, the response is to simply block, which is why I grab a lot. If there response is to teleport or run away, then I have a few options to deal with that as well. If there response is to attack, then they take the trade of dealing damage to me but also getting flung by the orb. The orb is meant to be a slow-moving setup tool, and it’s not just a setup tool for simply combos. It’s more in-depth than that. It’s a means to obtain an opening on your opponent, it’s not simply an opening in and of itself. I am a huge fan of designing moves that do nothing except help you later, if that makes sense. Their purpose is to lead to a situation where if you guess correctly, you can hit them with a combo starter, instead of itself being a combo starter, because then there is an over-reliance and a lack of depth.
      The second is simple insurance. I put the orb behind me to prevent Gigan from teleporting and getting behind me. It also prevents him from approaching me at all, lest he get punished by it. The orb is absolutely an incredible tool that leads to a terrible situation for the opponent, but like everything in STEM, it has counterplay.
      My main goal with STEM’s gameplay is to have an improvisational style of combos and neutral. Most combos are so situational that you have to really think on your feet, you are constantly trying to chase your opponent down and just land one more hit before they reach the ground, and knowing your character inside and out is required to do that.
      Destoroyah is not a combo character, he’s a tanky setup character who has insane pressure. His combos are not meant to be extensive without the use of his tools. While it wasn’t showcased here, he is able to use his orb to pull the opponent back to him mid-air after a hit, hit them back again, pull the back, etc.
      Also, how exactly would Destoroyah zone you out without any energy in his meter? He has the slowest run speed in the game, without energy, he gets rushed down extremely hard. Energy management is key. The slow frame data insures that you can’t simply zone moves and stall for your energy to come back. If you overindulge your energy attacks, you will be punished for it.
      The only thing I have to say really is to wait until the game is out and judge it then, rather than judging footage of me (who made the game) destroying someone who’s never played it before.

    • @aidanterrebonne822
      @aidanterrebonne822 2 года назад +2

      @@Gojirex fantastic response that shows that you have a very solid grasp of fundamentals and what you're aiming for. I really do hope the neutral in this game is rewarding.
      When I say zoning I'm speaking more about using moves with large range such as tail swipes to try to maintain a distance for her to hit you without being hit back. If you've played soulcalibur just imagine nightmare vs maxi. Zoning with fireballs and back jumps doesnt work in soul cal, but nightmare has a big ass sword and therefore can throw out big swings to make maxi respect him when trying to go in. If he doesnt he eats a hit and gets reset to neutral. Whether the nightmare will simply get baited by the maxi and rushed down is up to him, his patience, and his timing. So long as maxi has to force his way into range nightmare holds the match in his hands.
      This concept applied to your game could prove very rewarding as energy refills over time in most cases and match time limits are forgiving. The issue occurs when you essentially design a character who is constantly stalling a match waiting for a resource so they can use a a setup tool. This creates a very frustrating race for the other player to get in and deal damage to an elusive/defensive opponent before they get 4 bars and make an attempt at aggression. Then they either connect and combo or whiff and aren't punished because of their tool and in either case reset to neutral and stall for bar again. This can be especially tiresome on tanky characters as their large healthpools only exasperate the issue.
      I'd go into more detail to better illustrate my concerns and more over my point, but you're absolutely right I won't know anything until I get to play and whatever I say now is pure conjecture.
      Thanks for speaking with me, I'm worried because I'm invested and you assuage me without fail. I have great respect for your project and your character. Not everyone has the humility to explain their decisions and reasoning online respectfully.

    • @Gojirex
      @Gojirex  2 года назад +3

      @@aidanterrebonne822 Thank you for your kind words. You make an excellent point. In practice, it doesn't seem to be an issue currently, however, I can only really know if it is a toxic loop like that after the game is out and I see every single way that people can play these characters. I have a very bait and punish playstyle, but other people play far more defensively than me and will push this game in areas that I don't even think about. It'll be interesting to watch the first few tournaments to see what strategies I previously didn't imagine were possible can win some games. My plan is to let the game's meta bake over the course of few months, only fixing game-breaking balancing or bugs, and then afterwards if this issue you describe becomes the sole centralized focus of Destoroyah, then I'd rework Destoroyah's gameplay to fix it. Perhaps make the Oxygen Destroyer an ammo count that can only be used once or twice per match? Who knows. We'll just have to see how the meta pans out. I'm interested to see how it develops over a few months uninterrupted first, though, as this game has too much depth to tell what the truly busted strategies are for a very long time.