Opinion: No longer should the Nobel Peace Prize be given to actively serving political leaders. Their true worth to the world can only be assessed after their term is over. Also... they've usually got enough PR to go around anyhow, and the prize would be better for promoting non-state individuals able to affect positive change in the world. What do you think?
I think that's a terrific idea but the Peace Prize has been given to so many dubious people for so many dubious reasons over the years that it has very little credibility left anyway. The various Nobel Prizes in the sciences and others are usually justified and well deserved but the Peace Prize seems to go to whoever happens to be trendy in the moment or is the current darling of the global cocktail set.
The Nobel Peace Prize is worth less than nothing, considering it was once awarded to Henry Kissinger. Of course, he wouldn't be the last war criminal to receive it. Corruption is a terrible thing, and in this geopolitical economy, it's ubiquitous.
@@thomasdutta2701 I wouldn't use this as a sledgehammer upon any particular leaders; leadership is bound to be flawed due to humanity being flawed. Of course Obama made mistakes, but that is beside my point: Let's just not honour political leaders before their terms are up, when there are so many people doing great work in the world besides them.
It’s a great idea and would help bring back some integrity to it and as you mentioned, bringing light to good work that otherwise might go unnoticed which hopefully would encourage more in the future
@@reddragon100 Ah, you wish. India is pretty stable and growing right now. Pakistan is actually the country that heading Ethiopia’s way but way worse with the ji hadis and Taliban starting to claim parts of Pakistan and the economic and flood crises.
Good video, but there are a few errors that need to be corrected. - The 1998 war with Eritrea was not a civil war. It was a full-blown war between two countries - Ethiopia and Eritrea - when TPLF (through its proxy EPRDF) led Ethiopia. At that time Ethiopians were united against Eritrea. A point of interest here is that TPLF and PFDJ (Eritrea's ruling party under Isaias) fought together against the Derg and had an uneasy alliance during that time, sometimes breaking out into outright inter-conflict. But circumstances forced them to work together as neither could win alone. Unresolved differences from that era are considered to be the cause for the war, and it is mostly accepted that Badme was just an excuse. - The Tigrayan Defence Forces (TDF) is not an alliance between the TPLF and other ethnic groups' militias, but between TPLF and other groups within Tigray, some former opposition. TDF does have an alliance with other rebel groups but is not the umbrella name of the alliance. - Regarding the stalemate, you're only partially correct. The TDF's actual demands were the resumption of basic services like banking, telecoms and electricity in addition to aid. IMO this difference does affect the outcome of efforts to mediate them. However, in a recent call for peace negotiations the TDF seems to have dropped the demand for basic services and appears to prioritize the resumption of aid. Additional points of interest: * The federal government and Fano have an uneasy alliance, upheld mainly due to their common enemy TDF. Fano is considered a renegade by the government and attempts were made to curb its influence (look up the 4,000 arrests made in Amhara to clamp down on the militia). It is among the groups accused of war crimes, particularly in Wolkayt. Amhara militias on the other hand accuse the federal government of neglecting to safeguard Amhara civilians in other regions. Amharas feel like they are being scapegoated and targeted for the country's historical grievances (see the massacre of ethnic Amharas in Oromia, a crime for which the OLA is accused of carrying out). * The Afars are also enemies of the TDF and allied with the federal government. They have suffered attacks from TDF to their west as it attempts to break out from the blockade.
@@calvinware7957 Eritrea gained independence in 1993 by defeating the Ethiopians with the help of the Tigray region. As a result, Eritrea announced independence and Tigray governed Ethiopia (the party ironically called Tigray people liberation front governed the country they are trying to be liberated from). Unfortunately, the relationship between the two soured ending in a war in 1998.
The nebula version of this video is unedited. Its interesting to see the recording process but is a bit hard to follow. That said, thank you for keeping this in the news. In the US, Ukraine and Trump's documents are the big headlines and I have not seen anything on this unless you guys cover it.
Yeah it's also a bit annoying that this is basically the only place where we might be able to contact them to let them know that their 2 hour old video is the raw cut lol
I pray that Ethiopians can solve this conflict without going down the same path Yugoslavia had. Its really a shame for a nation that survived for thousands of years to be destroyed through atrocities and struggle for leadership.
I mean, not to be pedantic but Ethiopia has existed from 800 years to 150 years depending on how you count it, anyway you slice it hasn’t existed for a thousand years much less thousands.
@@adamvandolder1804 That's a huge stretch as far as I'm concerned. It would be like considering Tunisia today to be the continuation of Carthage even though the only similarity between them is their geographical location.
@@giantWario - You don’t know much about Ethiopia, do you? It’s less like Tunisia and Carthage and more like Italy and Rome or China and any of it’s earlier dynasties. Sure, the structure of state is vastly different, but the people?
Thanks for making this video. It feels like the wars in Tigray and Yemen have really been put on the back burner since Russia invaded Ukraine in February.
A few years ago Ethiopia was on the rise. Now, other states like Lebanon have gone down this path before and survived collapse, but required years of rebuilding. Even if Ethiopia survives this, their country could be in ruins for years to come.
not really familiar with Lebanon's history....did they have a Civil War like this? The last news I've heard from there is general corruption and stagnant economy and from when that ammonia storage plant exploded.
@@kenm1167 but that describes nearly every 2nd/3rd world country of the past 80 years. What makes Ethiopia like Lebanon, unlike other country's political misgivings?
For us, ethiopians, almost without exception, we don't want ethiopia to fracture and collapse. Those parties fighting, are fighting to take control of Ethiopia and dominate addis ababa, not to get independence, we (ethiopians) all know that, everyone wants to rule, not to get independent, getting independent is a nightmare to all ethiopian farmers, minorities, rich elite individuals, and addis ababans (I know it as I'm an ethiopian addis ababa resident) I don't think ethiopia will be divided, but one party would dominate the field and that's it
ethiopia decry's imperialism, yet is itself an empire. Yes, I know that they haven't been called an empire since the 70s and 80s, but still, Ethiopia held onto all its old territory
@@edmundprice5276 except eritrea, which according to the British government was a federal state in ethiopia, but the emperor forced eritrea to become a unitary province Edit: which caused the eritrean conflict, which turned into a civil war during the communist regime
@@Omer1996E.C forgive me, my post colonial African history is a little rough around the edges, but didn't the Eritreans rebel and force independence through sheer military strength?
@@edmundprice5276 yes, you're totally right, in fact half of Eritreans are ethnic tigrians, and tigrians are well known for their strength in wars. What I was telling you is that ethiopia didn't hold to it's old territories as you said, and that Eritreans got independent.
@@Omer1996E.C there is a difference between being released from a prison and breaking out. Eritrea broke out. granted, eritrea may no longer be part of ethiopia, but ethiopia did its best to hold on and was merely overpowered and ethiopia is likely to try and re-absorb all former territories once it gets the chance
As of yesterday the TPLF has signaled that they are willing to accept an African Union led peace negotiation which was one the main demands of the federal forces. This means that the TPLF are deeply unconfident that they will win given how much the AU will likely favor the Ethiopian national government. Before that though it was unlikely that Ethiopia would actually split up. The TPLF desired regime change not the dissolution of the country. Remember the people running the TPLF used to run Ethiopia only a few years ago. Why get an independent Tigray when you can rule all of Ethiopia instead? The ethnic coalition is more evidence to that idea, given that is how they gained power initially, by creating an alliance between anti-government ethnic militias and overthrowing the DERG. They tried replicating that success and have broadly speaking failed
They always do this when they are in military disadvantage. They refused all proposals for peace back when they were close to addis ababa, but they demanded one when the ethiopian forces were close to mekele. And again they are asking for peaceful negotiations after losing ground
The TPLF accepting the African Union deal is not a sign of weakness but a smart strategy. Will help to buy them time. I think that their main goal is autonomy because even if they capture the entire Ethiopia they still will not be able to hold it together. Too many factions with different aims and objectives. This was part of the reason why they failed to advanced to Addis. That and possible intervention of the US and other foreign powers. Total collapse of Ethiopia is bad for the region. I think PM Abey rushed to war thinking that it would be easy to settle the Tigray issue with the help of Eritrea once and for all. He boldly went for a centralized government in Addis which is very problematic for a large nation with so many different ethnicities. Ultimately he will have to accept that the federal system is the way to go but I doubt doing so would assure the Tigrays considering what they went through in the past few years.
@@muhammad-bin-american ethiopia is a federal state, which means tigray already has an autonomy. What the tplf wants is to control addis ababa and the central federal government
@@Omer1996E.C Abey was trying to centralized power in Addis. This was the main dispute that lead to the war. He said the same thing in this video. Now if given the opportunity the TPLF will indeed seize power in Addis but I doubt that's their ultimate goal. They may not be able to hold the country together. Even the loose coalition with other ethnic groups would not survive. Best outcome for them is either some form of independence which is tough or a federal system with considerable power in the regions. The latter is the best way to go in my opinion.
@@muhammad-bin-american first, ethiopia is already a federal state with considerable amount of autonomy to all regions, including tigray region and its own government Second, centralizing power in addis ababa is not possible with every region trying to gain the most power for themselves, rather than give it to the federal government Third, the tplf doesn't want independence, but to control addis ababa and its federal government as it was before about 5 years ago and they were able to hold the country together, not by defeating everyone, but because a divided ethiopia is a nightmare to all ethiopians, desert Somalia, tigray and afar won't be ad it is now without it's neighbors, mountainous and wet amhara, southern regions and western regions wouldn't be the same without the minerals from the east, and future potential minerals that holds alot of promise too. Ethiopia is a very divided and connected country at the same time
Regarding intervention in Ethiopia by the west - intervention in an ethnic civil war is practically impossible and mostly doomed from the start. You have two options, either you do what UN did for Yugoslavia and send in non-combatants and troops who aren't allowed to shoot anyone and watch them be completely useless and delegitimize the entire operation, or you send in troops that are allowed to fight... and then what? The problem is that you would have to shoot at every side or show overwhelming power against every side to calm things down and even then the underlying problems would still exist and the peace would only last as long as shooty int troops were there. Plus, if you killed more troops of one side then the other it would be very very easy for internal actors, who have vested interest in continuing the conflict for personal profit, to say that the int troops have "effectively joined" one side or another. Sanctions are out of the question as well - sanctions hurt everyone which helps no one in an internal ethnic conflict. And weapons sanctions only leave the weaker side defenseless and primed for slaughter by the better armed side.
And that's before you look at the cost of the exercise in terms of life and money for what will be extremely divisive inside the country and internationally. No matter how bad things get, if the West were to put boots on the ground in this conflict or similiar there are plenty of people going around calling "imperialism", and bad things will happen no matter how good your intentions.
This conflict, like many others, has ethnic elements, but it is more of a war between Abiy(with the help of another country, Eritrea) and Tigray/TPLF than just an ethnic conflict. Abiy wants to consolidate his power by destroying his most prominent opponent (the TPLF) and its supporters (mainly Tigrayans), and Isaias Afwerki, the Eritrean president, wants to revenge on the TPLF/Tigray for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. I'll copy-paste what I commented elsewhere in the video in the second paragraph if you want more of my take on the origins of this conflict. In general, it's not an ethnic conflict where one has to kill each side to maintain the balance and stop the fighting. The Fano and the other militias are small and unorganized groups when compared to the TPLF and the Ethiopian government. I think if all other options fail and military intervention is needed, a limited air action against military installations in Ethiopia/Eritrea, without deploying fighting troops on the ground, could help solve it like in the case of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and even might be necessary to avoid another Syria or even Rwanda. That's the only thing that would force Abiy/Isaias to negotiate or stop the fighting and/or the deadly siege. Right now, there is nothing that's forcing Abiy and Isaias to stop the conflict -- They're just waiting for the Tigrayans to perish through war or starvation. After stopping the fighting and/or the deadly siege, the TPLF can continue leading Tigray, where it has popular support and is elected, and Abiy and Isaias can continue leading their respective countries without creating a power vacuum that might lead to other problems that we see in other parts of the world. I'll copy-paste what I promised in the next paragraph. It's what I commented somewhere else, so forgive me for the transition and in case there are any points irrelevant to this discussion. Here is what I believe is true about this conflict (I am an Ethiopian btw): The TPLF left their government and military positions to Abiy starting in 2018 without firing a single bullet. Abiy made a series of bad policy decisions since he came to power -- like freeing criminals and letting in armed groups like the OLA that were fighting the Ethiopian government from abroad. After a year or two, the people started to see the results of his bad decisions. However, instead of taking responsibility for his failures and mitigating the problems, Abiy just scapegoated the TPLF for every problem that he started facing because of his decisions. Remember, Abiy was not elected by the people when he came to power. He was selected from the ruling party (EPRDF), which also had TPLF as its member, to tame the Oromo protests at the time; Abiy is half-Oromo. The election was to be held in 2020, which is in 2 years since Abiy came to power. In 2020, many people already saw the outcomes of his bad decisions, and that would have been a huge problem for his new party in the upcoming elections. His new party is called the Prosperity Party, and he created it by dismantling the EPRDF and by "asking" its members to join his new party. He did this mainly to centralize his power by taking power away from the regional states, which were represented by parties inside the EPRDF. The smaller parties joined his new party, but TPLF, which was ruling the Tigray region refused to join his party and decided to become his opponent in the upcoming elections. That's when he started to weaken the TPLF and ramp up the scapegoating even more. Despite his attempts to weaken the TPLF and scapegoat it for every problem he faced because of his bad decisions, the TPLF still enjoyed popular support in Tigray and some other parts of the country. It was obvious that TPLF would win the regional elections in Tigray and could even be a major challenger for Abiy at the national level if TPLF teams up with other parties in the country. As the elections came closer and he realized more that his power is in danger, he decided to indefinitely postpone the election by blaming it on COVID and take care of his political opponents until he deems it safe for him. He first arrested his opponents in Oromia that were not armed and then set his eyes on Tigray. Since Tigray was armed, the only way he could put out its government (the TPLF) was through war. To be sure he comes on top in the end, he teamed up with his friend in Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, who wanted to revenge on the TPLF for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. They started the war on Nov 3, 2020, while the rest of the world's attention was on the US elections, and presented TPLF's response as a provocation by the TPLF. They shut down all communications and virtually barred all international media from entering Tigray so that they could set all the narratives. It seems it has worked for them to a large extent. After they pushed the TPLF out of Mekele, the capital of Tigray, in the first round of war, Abiy was ready for election -- even though COVID, which was given as a reason for the postponement of the election, was still raging. Abiy won the election pretty comfortably without elections even having taken place in Tigray because it's "unsafe" (see the game plan?). Please read these 2 articles to get more information about how the war started and the context: 1. "The Nobel Peace Prize That Paved the Way for War in Ethiopia" -- The New York Times 2. "Is Ethiopia Headed for Civil War?" -- Foreign Policy
I notice you haven't been talking about Myanmar or Yemen much, nor Mexico. In particular, Myanmar seems to have gotten more violent. Wikipedia thinks it's the second most deadly conflict of 2022 after Ukraine.
The sac forces are on the ropes do to a lack of Russian aid. If Russia fails soon, we will see a lot of conflict zones explode with a shortage of cheap Russian equipment for governments to counter rebel groups. Most likely seeing the governments of Myanmar, Belarus, Syria, and Ethiopia collapse. While forces like in Yemen and Lebanon could face major set backs with Iran turning in on itself right now.
This is the same things people said about Nigeria at the start of the Boko-haram insurgency, 10+ years later and Nigeria is still united and Terrorist are surrendering en masse. The conflict in Ethiopia will likely play out the same way.
Once Ethiopia, a legitimate government, started buying drones from turkey, they very quickly overwhelmed the tigrayan forces If it needs to, it will happen again quickly
@@alezar2035 yes, that is something he hasn't mentioned in the video: a legitimate government has access to financial and human resources that rebel groups lack and if necessary they can institute a military draft or devote huge percentages of the country's GDP to military purchases
@@Kudejo see, your problem is that that is your only point of awareness of that country. Boko haram remains active in the north east. ISWAP have joined them and have become an even greater threat. Murder rates have exploded to become the 9th highest on earth. So called terroristic robbers euphemistically called "bandits" commit kidnappings and attack government buildings with impunity. The issue of piracy in the niger delta remains totally unaddressed. Fulani herdsmen attack farmers with no repercussion to the point of the outbreak of ethnic violence. Separatist sentiments have flaired up in the south east, with the president implying the destruction of the populations involved. Further separatism has flared up in the south western third of the country. The economy has been stagnant for the past 6 years. Corruption is at an all time high. The situation is far far worse than it was in the time, and the situation grows more dire by the day.
As a Tigrayan, I thank you for covering this topic. Since the War in Ukraine began and the world started to destabilize, the interstate War in the Horn of Africa with Ethiopia at its center has been relegated to the side. This diminished the mounting international pressure put on the Addis Ababa regime; thus the Crimes against Humanity and the humanitarian crisis persists.
Unfortunately it's always because that war does not effect the world like the Ukrainian one does. Also regions that always go to war or have wars often are ignored. If you don't participate in world trade or you don't have much to do with country that does . You will be ignored by most of the world . One of the worst ignored wars/conflict is the rawandan genocide . Nobody and I mean nobody tried to stop it . The world just let it happen , and most people don't even know about it .
Certain corrections/additions here. 1: the ceasefire was unilateral from the government and TPLF kept attacking and looting neighboring regions outside of Tigray, 2: although it's true that aid was withheld from entering certain parts of Tigray, there have been numerous accounts that witness that aid that reaches the region has been diverted by TPLF to rebel fighters instead of the civilians in need 3: TPLF's war crimes regarding forcing boys as young as 13 to join the fight and threatening their families if they refuse is not mentioned 4: the alleged killings perpetrated by Fano militia is false, the militia doesn't operate outside Amhara region and only acts in defence of the region, not attack. 5: the OLF militia that aims for the disintegration of the country is the one that launches massacres of non-Oromo citizens in Benshangul, southern Amhara, parts of Somali region and SNNP regions in aim to weaken the national gov, even aligning themselves with the TPLF until the Ethiopian New Year (SEP.11) when the TPLF and central gov opened talks for peaceful reconciliation. 6: the gov has been spewing horrible propaganda about how well the war is going through gov owned media's and jailing journalists that report otherwise, ethnic tensions in the capital are at an all time high with neighbors fighting and the social fabric being broken As an Ethiopian it's heart wrenching to see people you grew up with and lived with be targeted or vilified due to just speaking a different language, but the tension has been brewing for a long while and it was inevitable, I just long for the time ethnic-based politics is outlawed and a functional system put in place to cultivate a culture of cooperation among ethnicities and take the country out of desolation
I have no idea how accurate these statements are, or what you're leaving out, but I like how they're not all tilted towards one side in the war. (Of course, that doesn't actually prevent it from being biased, and including at least one statement supporting every bias would be a good way to hide bias.)
Why is the video talking from one side/perspective about a very complicated thing, like ethiopia? You said that the ceasefire stopped, but you didn't mention that the ethiopian armed forces were the one who made the ceasefire, and the tplf was the one who stopped it by pushing into amhara region with a surprise attack. And you haven't mentioned that the humanitarian aids reached tigray from the UN and of course the ethiopian federal government, but the tplf looted much of the aids for their army, the un also reported that 500,000 tons of fuel was stolen by the tplf from the UN. And finally, you failed to mention that abiy is still the most popular leader, especially among younger generations, compared to the elite
Thanks for making this video. I admit this video offers a more balanced view of the war than many Western news outlets, but can I point out in good faith that some important pieces of information have not been included? 1. It was a blitzkrieg operation carried out by the TPLF rebels against government military bases stationed in Tigray which started the war esrly November 4, 2020; 2. Some audiences may find it deeply upsetting that you had not covered the atrocities and war crimes committed by TPLF militia on the neighboring Amhara and Afar regions in areas like Maikadra, Chenna, Galicoma, Qobbo, and by OLA against innocent civilians in several districts in and around Wollega in Oromis region. 3. While TPLF has claimed aid was not reaching Tigray, the government has claimed it had indeed arrived Mekelle - Tigray's regional capital - but had been hijacked by TPLF itself to boost its war efforts. I have reason to believe that while Tigray had been effectively shut out from receiving aid, TPLF has - per testimonies of displaced Tigrayans who had escaped the war zone - indeed stolen food aid and gas that had finally reached the region. In any case, I am glad that both parties appear to be om the verge of agreeing to a ceasefire 😃😃 we have suffered quite enough.
United based on what? I feel like you westerns seem to think we Africans are some type of Monolith. Like any Continent people have different norms, Values, Laws, Traditions, Languages, religions and further multitude of differences. Many of what i just listed are so fundamental to peoples lives that they would rather death then to compromise on them.
@@ibrahimhassan711 OK mate sorry I forgot about how you have tribes and such like Native Americans and such. Just kinda wish that you guys could have more unity and be close than apart ok? Heck China (although oppressive than a federation) has many different people but is one country with the Mandarin Language and such. Hm?
@@ibrahimhassan711 I wish to see Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi be united as it once was for example. Better than the dictator in Zimbabwe who has hopefully died now.
Terrible video. Check out any Map of the current situation any map will show you that the rebel groups occupy non agriculture un-industrialized lands that hold little importance. The last time the media talked about the TPLF and OLA they claimed they wer at the gates of the capital and would soon end the war. Spoiler they didn't. Even now weeks after the TPLF launched their offensive it has failed and stalled despite their seizure of U.N oil and food supplies meant for the people of Tigray not their child soldiers. Now their terrorist forces are trying to gain peace with the A.U's assistance but at this point they have no chips to wager.
Correction- TDF is not a collection of other forces who oppose Abiy. The only force that we have connection is with the Agew fighters because we are neighbors and we believe in the same idea. Instead TDF is Tigray defense force , the fighters are Tegaru who want to protect their people, identity, culture, religion…. In general their freedom.
Here is what I believe is true about this conflict (I am an Ethiopian btw): The TPLF left their government and military positions to Abiy starting in 2018 without firing a single bullet. Abiy made a series of bad policy decisions since he came to power -- like freeing criminals and letting in armed groups like the OLA that were fighting the Ethiopian government from abroad. After a year or two, the people started to see the results of his bad decisions. However, instead of taking responsibility for his failures and mitigating the problems, Abiy just scapegoated the TPLF for every problem that he started facing because of his decisions. Remember, Abiy was not elected by the people when he came to power. He was selected from the ruling party (EPRDF), which also had TPLF as its member, to tame the Oromo protests at the time; Abiy is half-Oromo. The election was to be held in 2020, which is in 2 years since Abiy came to power. In 2020, many people already saw the outcomes of his bad decisions, and that would have been a huge problem for his new party in the upcoming elections. His new party is called the Prosperity Party, and he created it by dismantling the EPRDF and by "asking" its members to join his new party. He did this mainly to centralize his power by taking power away from the regional states, which were represented by parties inside the EPRDF. The smaller parties joined his new party, but TPLF, which was ruling the Tigray region refused to join his party and decided to become his opponent in the upcoming elections. That's when he started to weaken the TPLF and ramp up the scapegoating even more. Despite his attempts to weaken the TPLF and scapegoat it for every problem he faced because of his bad decisions, the TPLF still enjoyed popular support in Tigray and some other parts of the country. It was obvious that TPLF would win the regional elections in Tigray and could even be a major challenger for Abiy at the national level if TPLF teams up with other parties in the country. As the elections came closer and he realized more that his power is in danger, he decided to indefinitely postpone the election by blaming it on COVID and take care of his political opponents until he deems it safe for him. He first arrested his opponents in Oromia that were not armed and then set his eyes on Tigray. Since Tigray was armed, the only way he could put out its government (the TPLF) was through war. To be sure he comes on top in the end, he teamed up with his friend in Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, who wanted to revenge on the TPLF for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. They started the war on Nov 3, 2020, while the rest of the world's attention was on the US elections, and presented TPLF's response as a provocation by the TPLF. They shut down all communications and virtually barred all international media from entering Tigray so that they could set all the narratives. It seems it has worked for them to a large extent. After they pushed the TPLF out of Mekele, the capital of Tigray, in the first round of war, Abiy was ready for election -- even though COVID, which was given as a reason for the postponement of the election, was still raging. Abiy won the election pretty comfortably without elections even having taken place in Tigray because it's "unsafe" (see the game plan?). Please read these 2 articles to get more information about how the war started and the context: 1. "The Nobel Peace Prize That Paved the Way for War in Ethiopia" -- The New York Times 2. "Is Ethiopia Headed for Civil War?" -- Foreign Policy
The TPLF (old government) is bitter about losing their power and so they started a war to try and regain it. The current government's inability to stop them has meant that other militias will now make their own attempts at gaining power. A sad story for ordinary Ethiopians who just want a better life.
As an Ethiopian, I'd respectfully disagree. The TPLF left their government and military positions to Abiy starting in 2018 without firing a single bullet. Abiy made a series of bad policy decisions since he came to power -- like freeing criminals and letting in armed groups like the OLA that were fighting the Ethiopian government from abroad. After a year or two, the people started to see the results of his bad decisions, but instead of taking responsibility for his failures and mitigating the problems, Abiy just scapegoated the TPLF for every problem that he started facing because of his decisions. Remember, Abiy was not elected by the people when he came to power. He was selected from the ruling party (EPRDF), which also had TPLF as its member, to tame the Oromo protests at the time; Abiy is half-Oromo. The election was to be held in 2020, which is in 2 years since Abiy came to power. In 2020, many people have already seen the outcomes of his bad decisions, and it would have been a huge problem for his new party in the upcoming elections. His new party is called the Prosperity Party, and he created it by dismantling the EPRDF and by "asking" its members to join his new party. He did this mainly to centralize his power by taking away power from the regional states which were represented by parties inside the EPRDF. The smaller parties joined his new party, but TPLF, which was ruling the Tigray region refused to join his party and decided to become his opponent in the upcoming elections. That's when he started to weaken the TPLF and ramp up the scapegoating even more. Despite his attempts to weaken the TPLF and scapegoat it for every problem he faced because of his bad decisions, the TPLF still enjoyed popular support in Tigray and some other parts of the country. It was obvious that TPLF would win the regional elections in Tigray and could even be a major challenger for Abiy at the national level if TPLF teams up with other parties in the country. As the elections came closer and he realized more that his power is in danger, he decided to indefinitely postpone the election by blaming it on COVID and take care of his political opponents until he deems it safe for him. He first arrested his opponents in Oromia that were not armed and then set his eyes on Tigray. Since Tigray was armed, the only way he could put out its government (the TPLF) was through war. To be sure he comes on top in the end, he teamed up with his friend in Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, who wanted to revenge on the TPLF for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. They started the war on Nov 3, 2020, while the rest of the world's attention was on the US elections, and presented TPLF's response as a provocation by the TPLF. They shut down all communications and virtually barred all international media from entering Tigray so that they could set all the narratives. It seems it has worked for them to a large extent. Please read these 2 articles to get more information about how the war started and the context: 1. "The Nobel Peace Prize That Paved the Way for War in Ethiopia" -- The New York Times 2. "Is Ethiopia Headed for Civil War?" -- Foreign Policy
@@yomamaballsinmyw Yeah, I'm not surprised. There are few places where you can hear the Tigrayan perspective from. I am an Amhara myself. However, I have been following the political developments in my country for many years, and I'll speak out for what I believe is true, whenever I can, regardless of my ethnicity. Most of the Tigrayans that could tell you their POV are under a communications blackout, and the small number of Tigrayans that live abroad would always lose in the war of narratives with Abiy/Isaias supporters that live in the respective countries + abroad. For instance, if you're an informed & objective person and read the Wikipedia page about the war, you'll literally laugh. It got to the point when Wikipedia put a label saying "This article may contain excessive or inappropriate references to self-published sources", which is an understatement really.
Sudan and Ethiopia possible but not eritera. Eritera just want to do business for tigray other hand its hard say tigray people are crazy who would love to stay with Ethiopia even after genocide long us abiy is arrested. But with eritera and Somalia is just joke lol.
The international community really needs to step up pressure to make Ethiopia allow aid into Tigray. It isn't a matter of politics it's about saving literally hundreds of thousands of lives and for many it's already too late.
no, they did to aid ethiopian federal forces. tigray 6% of the population control all of ethiopia for way to long. now an amhara/oromo president comes into power and decided not to disband the tigray's government strangle on power, and centralized the government, they go ape shit and start trying to seperate. a country has the right to defend itself, and the tplf is definitely not the victims.
I signed up for curiosity stream using your link, but I don’t see how to get to nebula or your videos. Even if I search for nebula your videos don’t show up.
The emperor is the root cause of our war to be honest. He mobilized every ethiopian resource gor the elite and amharas and he persecuted oromos, as well as many other minorities and most significantly, muslims, he favored the much smaller Jewish population. Although the amharas didn't hate oromos, oromos started to hate amharas because the emperor was amhara. If the empire was restored, it would only compose of amhara region, and other regions would eventually revolt
I don't thonk the Tigrayans actually want that, they are very proud of the thousand years civilisation of Axum-Ethiopia and claim that they were the ones who founded it that the Amhara and especially the Oromo only later migrated into a cvilisation created by the Tigrayans. Rememmber the Tigrayans used to be in charge of Ethiopia back after the fall of the monarchy.
You think that this is about ancient history? Then you don't know much about politics. It's a ploy for agression. Eritrea was a large part of Aksum and the economic center of the empire. You don't see Eritrea boasting about wanting to control Tigray or Ethiopia.
@@DaDunge no because eritera want to remove it not own it? The eritera want to separate history related to tigrayan and amhara in their history and try to make pure eritera history. They hate Ethiopia do much they even say habesha is dirty name.
Do you have your head in the sand? It's been reported on for years now, but I don't blame you for missing it. It isn't a top news story in most of NA and EU, and as such might only get a footnote report. Plus it got much worse during Covid, when most news outlets were reporting on that.
its a confusing conflict. the two groups amhara and tigray make up most of the old ethiopian empires. tigray claims that they were the real ethiopia and that amhara's are stealing their history.
“Ethiopia 🇪🇹 as we know it will disappear into history, that the world 🌍 tolerates new countries progress their own socioeconomic communities, multiculturalism represents a venomous shadow of European colonialism itself”
@@catmonarchist8920 It's "diversity" is a result of the recent imperialism of the Ethiopian empire. Most of it was in a sense colonised, fairly recently.
I think better than now, but still not good for many reasons. The emperor was overthrown because of most ethiopians hating him in the first place. Most ethiopians who weren't living in amhara, tigray and addis ababa regions
Well, if the Emperor was still around, he'd be the oldest person on Earth, at 130 years old. As well as the oldest regent, having reigned for 92 years. So at least some things would be different from now.
@@Omer1996E.C What do you mean most Ethiopians not living in tigray? Haile Selassie literally ignored droughts and famine in tigray, and even after that Haile Selassie made policies so that tigray wouldn't grow and then become a threat to his reign. But unfortunately for him derg came in instead, and they too also did the same thing to tigray(other regions as well) as Haile Selassie. Which is why the tplf wanted a ethnic-federalist ethiopia where they could be represented and such things would no longer happen to minorities like them in ethiopia anymore.
@@navinthehouse4710 according to many somalis, afars and tigrian muslims, many of them weren't counted, and it was done during the tplf rule, which was distorting the statistics to justify it's elections. Plus, you can see from the same census that the muslim population is continously increasing due to higher fertility rate and lower ethnic violence in these regions. So, I'm sure it's more like 40 percent, maybe 39 or something like that
Tigrayans used to love issayas of Eritrea, they fought alongside each other and ousted the former ruling government, but Eritrea just got independence with the land they grabbed while tplf took control of the country. Slowly escalating, they went as far as stabbing one other in the back... Blames goes to both sides elite whom wanted more power
@@dewaard3301 in real gdp terms, ethiopia has grown less than 5 folds in 2 decades, pretty impressive, but not 10 folds. It's mainly by the buried ethiopian potential, ethiopia had huge potentials, but the communist government and the civil war made it hard to work for educated people and for rich individuals to use their wealth
Why just give the region its independence? It's not only TPLF all tigrayean peoples wants their independence not only them other minorities in Ethiopia do not like the only Amharic government
Hate to break it to you, but the government is mostly Oromos. May not represent the people of Oromia, but they are Oromos nonetheless, with interests differing from the Amhara
It really upsets me how the ear in Ukraine is getting like 15 times the cover as this conflict. I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be covered, but other conflicts like this one should not be so sidelined in comparison.
Ukraine is a far simpler story and far more relevant to most people watching. Ukraine was attacked by a fascist and imperialist state that had been viewed as enemy number 1 for decades, and they defended their country with western support. Compared to a brutal civil war in Africa, with both sides being less than perfect and western viewers not really involved it makes a lot of sense. The situation is horrible and tragic but it's not going to have the same ripple effects at home and abroad for most countries in the world.
The war in Ukraine has global effects. A nuclear armed power is invading a sovereign nation, who is backed by the EU, one of the worlds economic superpowers, along with NATO, the worlds largest military alliance. One wrong move and all of a sudden we’re flirting with WW3. Also, the war in Ukraine has the ability to cut off grain shipments to the Middle East and energy to Europe, thus destabilizing both regions simultaneously. You hear more about the war in Ukraine than the war in Ethiopia because quite bluntly it is more important. And it’s not particularly close.
I can safely say this video lacks a big chunk of background knowledge and the current situation of the situation. I appreciate you trying but do better if you gonna continue reporting on this matter because it matters.
I just wonder what Ethiopia's neighbors will do. Like will the Nile countries start using this to destroy Ethiopia's dams or will Eritrea invade Ethiopia?
Sorry to say this, but it is because of the imperial family that the war is continuing. The imperial family was taking all ethiopian resources to consolidate it's power and strengthen amharas by spreading their culture, religion and dominance throughout ethiopia by force, excluding all other ethnic and religious groups, particularly Muslim and rarely protestant populations
@@Omer1996E.C I'm sorry to say this but that may have been the case in the 1800s but by the 1900s, Ethiopia was reasonably unified and tensions were not as high as they are now. the Imperial house did have its fault, im not going to say they didn't, but right now, given the situation of the nation, they can unify the nation. Again, the country needs a symbol, something to rally under and Ethiopia has a very rich history, and the return of the emperor can help, or at least I do believe it possible.
@@FRIEND_711 I'm not telling you about armed conflicts, but about where the roots of hatred are. The roots of today's hatred between ethnic groups and religions in ethiopia is mostly from the 20th century. All ethnic groups never got chance to own a firearm, but now they have. Back then if they had it, ethiopia would be in a very long history of civil war. Go to oromo region, almost as every oromo knows the history of the statue where emperor minilik ll was depicted holding a teared oromo woman's body organ in his hands, as an amhara legacy. It's really hard to convince them now that amharas and oromos are people of the same nation.
The imperial royal family are Amhara they would not be a unifying influence at this point. Then again Abiy Ahmed is Oromo and the Oromo are up in revolution against him anyway.
@@Omer1996E.C The Tigrayans aren't muslims though. Only the Oromo are majority muslim and Abiy Ahmed is an Oromo. Part of the reason Tigray is in uprising is that it can acept being under Amharan rule but not under the rule of the despised Oromo. The Tigrayan narrative is that all of Ethiopia used to be Tigrayan under the empire of Axum then other peoples moved in and took over, first the Amhara (though that was a thousand years ago) then later the Oromo.
after one year of this video, a new war is going, this time it's on Amhara, and it could be worse than the tigray war since Amhara are the second large ethnic group of the country.
I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Europe, people are caring less and less about Ukraine. They won't even look twice at Ethiopia, let alone care or help.
Ukraine after half a year becomes a constant. The initial shock of what is happening is over and people lose interest. But that doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of people still helping or in fact that you yourself can help.
@@DaDunge Great Britain, Norway, Canada and the USA are the only countries doing enough. And that's their governments, not the people. Most of them switched the Ukrainian flags in their profile for rainbow flags as soon as it stopped being cool.
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Opinion: No longer should the Nobel Peace Prize be given to actively serving political leaders. Their true worth to the world can only be assessed after their term is over. Also... they've usually got enough PR to go around anyhow, and the prize would be better for promoting non-state individuals able to affect positive change in the world.
What do you think?
I think that's a terrific idea but the Peace Prize has been given to so many dubious people for so many dubious reasons over the years that it has very little credibility left anyway.
The various Nobel Prizes in the sciences and others are usually justified and well deserved but the Peace Prize seems to go to whoever happens to be trendy in the moment or is the current darling of the global cocktail set.
The Nobel Peace Prize is worth less than nothing, considering it was once awarded to Henry Kissinger. Of course, he wouldn't be the last war criminal to receive it. Corruption is a terrible thing, and in this geopolitical economy, it's ubiquitous.
Your right obama was a failure
@@thomasdutta2701 I wouldn't use this as a sledgehammer upon any particular leaders; leadership is bound to be flawed due to humanity being flawed. Of course Obama made mistakes, but that is beside my point: Let's just not honour political leaders before their terms are up, when there are so many people doing great work in the world besides them.
It’s a great idea and would help bring back some integrity to it and as you mentioned, bringing light to good work that otherwise might go unnoticed which hopefully would encourage more in the future
Sad developments. I hope for peace asap for Ethiopia, Africa and the world
not happening aparently.
@@fabiofernandes9122 As a Pakistani, I think India will soon be going to into same situation as Ethiopia
@@reddragon100 i think every country is heading in the same way has ethiopia.
@@reddragon100 Ah, you wish. India is pretty stable and growing right now. Pakistan is actually the country that heading Ethiopia’s way but way worse with the ji hadis and Taliban starting to claim parts of Pakistan and the economic and flood crises.
@@reddragon100 Bruh, you guys can't even float your own economy. We're doing fine, especially in comparison to you.
Good video, but there are a few errors that need to be corrected.
- The 1998 war with Eritrea was not a civil war. It was a full-blown war between two countries - Ethiopia and Eritrea - when TPLF (through its proxy EPRDF) led Ethiopia. At that time Ethiopians were united against Eritrea. A point of interest here is that TPLF and PFDJ (Eritrea's ruling party under Isaias) fought together against the Derg and had an uneasy alliance during that time, sometimes breaking out into outright inter-conflict. But circumstances forced them to work together as neither could win alone. Unresolved differences from that era are considered to be the cause for the war, and it is mostly accepted that Badme was just an excuse.
- The Tigrayan Defence Forces (TDF) is not an alliance between the TPLF and other ethnic groups' militias, but between TPLF and other groups within Tigray, some former opposition. TDF does have an alliance with other rebel groups but is not the umbrella name of the alliance.
- Regarding the stalemate, you're only partially correct. The TDF's actual demands were the resumption of basic services like banking, telecoms and electricity in addition to aid. IMO this difference does affect the outcome of efforts to mediate them. However, in a recent call for peace negotiations the TDF seems to have dropped the demand for basic services and appears to prioritize the resumption of aid.
Additional points of interest:
* The federal government and Fano have an uneasy alliance, upheld mainly due to their common enemy TDF. Fano is considered a renegade by the government and attempts were made to curb its influence (look up the 4,000 arrests made in Amhara to clamp down on the militia). It is among the groups accused of war crimes, particularly in Wolkayt. Amhara militias on the other hand accuse the federal government of neglecting to safeguard Amhara civilians in other regions. Amharas feel like they are being scapegoated and targeted for the country's historical grievances (see the massacre of ethnic Amharas in Oromia, a crime for which the OLA is accused of carrying out).
* The Afars are also enemies of the TDF and allied with the federal government. They have suffered attacks from TDF to their west as it attempts to break out from the blockade.
Are they actually still continuing construction on the "grand renaissance dam"?
@@user-uf2df6zf5w Yes. Despite the many ills facing the country things seem to be progressing quite well on that front.
I thought it was a civil war since Eritrea was trying to declare independence from Ethiopia? Did that happen earlier?
thank you so much for taking the time to type that out.
@@calvinware7957 Eritrea gained independence in 1993 by defeating the Ethiopians with the help of the Tigray region. As a result, Eritrea announced independence and Tigray governed Ethiopia (the party ironically called Tigray people liberation front governed the country they are trying to be liberated from). Unfortunately, the relationship between the two soured ending in a war in 1998.
The nebula version of this video is unedited.
Its interesting to see the recording process but is a bit hard to follow.
That said, thank you for keeping this in the news. In the US, Ukraine and Trump's documents are the big headlines and I have not seen anything on this unless you guys cover it.
Michael is right. I definitely could not follow comfortably!
Yeah it's also a bit annoying that this is basically the only place where we might be able to contact them to let them know that their 2 hour old video is the raw cut lol
TLDR desperately needs a new editor, the editing problems have long been embarrassing and a stain on an otherwise great set of channels
I agree. For a moment I thought the videoplayer was broken…
I pray that Ethiopians can solve this conflict without going down the same path Yugoslavia had. Its really a shame for a nation that survived for thousands of years to be destroyed through atrocities and struggle for leadership.
I mean, not to be pedantic but Ethiopia has existed from 800 years to 150 years depending on how you count it, anyway you slice it hasn’t existed for a thousand years much less thousands.
@@1brianm7 Eithiopia is usually considered the continuation of the Axumite civilization, which would put it at over 2000 years old.
@@adamvandolder1804 That's a huge stretch as far as I'm concerned. It would be like considering Tunisia today to be the continuation of Carthage even though the only similarity between them is their geographical location.
@@giantWario They spoke the same languages and practiced the same religion.
@@giantWario - You don’t know much about Ethiopia, do you? It’s less like Tunisia and Carthage and more like Italy and Rome or China and any of it’s earlier dynasties. Sure, the structure of state is vastly different, but the people?
Thanks for making this video. It feels like the wars in Tigray and Yemen have really been put on the back burner since Russia invaded Ukraine in February.
Thank you for covering this.
A few years ago Ethiopia was on the rise. Now, other states like Lebanon have gone down this path before and survived collapse, but required years of rebuilding. Even if Ethiopia survives this, their country could be in ruins for years to come.
not really familiar with Lebanon's history....did they have a Civil War like this? The last news I've heard from there is general corruption and stagnant economy and from when that ammonia storage plant exploded.
@@G8tr1522 yeah there's been a lot of sectarian violence and corruption and instability etc since the civil war in the 70s
@@kenm1167 but that describes nearly every 2nd/3rd world country of the past 80 years. What makes Ethiopia like Lebanon, unlike other country's political misgivings?
Might want to take a look at the version you put on nebula lads - think you put the unedited one up instead of this version
Its the remix
For us, ethiopians, almost without exception, we don't want ethiopia to fracture and collapse.
Those parties fighting, are fighting to take control of Ethiopia and dominate addis ababa, not to get independence, we (ethiopians) all know that, everyone wants to rule, not to get independent, getting independent is a nightmare to all ethiopian farmers, minorities, rich elite individuals, and addis ababans (I know it as I'm an ethiopian addis ababa resident)
I don't think ethiopia will be divided, but one party would dominate the field and that's it
ethiopia
decry's imperialism, yet is itself an empire.
Yes, I know that they haven't been called an empire since the 70s and 80s, but still, Ethiopia held onto all its old territory
@@edmundprice5276 except eritrea, which according to the British government was a federal state in ethiopia, but the emperor forced eritrea to become a unitary province
Edit: which caused the eritrean conflict, which turned into a civil war during the communist regime
@@Omer1996E.C forgive me, my post colonial African history is a little rough around the edges, but didn't the Eritreans rebel and force independence through sheer military strength?
@@edmundprice5276 yes, you're totally right, in fact half of Eritreans are ethnic tigrians, and tigrians are well known for their strength in wars.
What I was telling you is that ethiopia didn't hold to it's old territories as you said, and that Eritreans got independent.
@@Omer1996E.C
there is a difference between being released from a prison and breaking out.
Eritrea broke out.
granted, eritrea may no longer be part of ethiopia, but ethiopia did its best to hold on and was merely overpowered and ethiopia is likely to try and re-absorb all former territories once it gets the chance
As of yesterday the TPLF has signaled that they are willing to accept an African Union led peace negotiation which was one the main demands of the federal forces. This means that the TPLF are deeply unconfident that they will win given how much the AU will likely favor the Ethiopian national government. Before that though it was unlikely that Ethiopia would actually split up. The TPLF desired regime change not the dissolution of the country. Remember the people running the TPLF used to run Ethiopia only a few years ago. Why get an independent Tigray when you can rule all of Ethiopia instead? The ethnic coalition is more evidence to that idea, given that is how they gained power initially, by creating an alliance between anti-government ethnic militias and overthrowing the DERG. They tried replicating that success and have broadly speaking failed
They always do this when they are in military disadvantage. They refused all proposals for peace back when they were close to addis ababa, but they demanded one when the ethiopian forces were close to mekele. And again they are asking for peaceful negotiations after losing ground
The TPLF accepting the African Union deal is not a sign of weakness but a smart strategy. Will help to buy them time. I think that their main goal is autonomy because even if they capture the entire Ethiopia they still will not be able to hold it together. Too many factions with different aims and objectives. This was part of the reason why they failed to advanced to Addis. That and possible intervention of the US and other foreign powers. Total collapse of Ethiopia is bad for the region. I think PM Abey rushed to war thinking that it would be easy to settle the Tigray issue with the help of Eritrea once and for all. He boldly went for a centralized government in Addis which is very problematic for a large nation with so many different ethnicities. Ultimately he will have to accept that the federal system is the way to go but I doubt doing so would assure the Tigrays considering what they went through in the past few years.
@@muhammad-bin-american ethiopia is a federal state, which means tigray already has an autonomy.
What the tplf wants is to control addis ababa and the central federal government
@@Omer1996E.C Abey was trying to centralized power in Addis. This was the main dispute that lead to the war. He said the same thing in this video. Now if given the opportunity the TPLF will indeed seize power in Addis but I doubt that's their ultimate goal. They may not be able to hold the country together. Even the loose coalition with other ethnic groups would not survive. Best outcome for them is either some form of independence which is tough or a federal system with considerable power in the regions. The latter is the best way to go in my opinion.
@@muhammad-bin-american first, ethiopia is already a federal state with considerable amount of autonomy to all regions, including tigray region and its own government
Second, centralizing power in addis ababa is not possible with every region trying to gain the most power for themselves, rather than give it to the federal government
Third, the tplf doesn't want independence, but to control addis ababa and its federal government as it was before about 5 years ago and they were able to hold the country together, not by defeating everyone, but because a divided ethiopia is a nightmare to all ethiopians, desert Somalia, tigray and afar won't be ad it is now without it's neighbors, mountainous and wet amhara, southern regions and western regions wouldn't be the same without the minerals from the east, and future potential minerals that holds alot of promise too.
Ethiopia is a very divided and connected country at the same time
I swear, I've never heard any news on Tigray from any of the major networks. Thanks for covering it.
looking at how the 20' are going so far I wouldn't be surrprised.
I mean, it's Africa. Non Africans tend to just not care
Regarding intervention in Ethiopia by the west - intervention in an ethnic civil war is practically impossible and mostly doomed from the start. You have two options, either you do what UN did for Yugoslavia and send in non-combatants and troops who aren't allowed to shoot anyone and watch them be completely useless and delegitimize the entire operation, or you send in troops that are allowed to fight... and then what? The problem is that you would have to shoot at every side or show overwhelming power against every side to calm things down and even then the underlying problems would still exist and the peace would only last as long as shooty int troops were there. Plus, if you killed more troops of one side then the other it would be very very easy for internal actors, who have vested interest in continuing the conflict for personal profit, to say that the int troops have "effectively joined" one side or another. Sanctions are out of the question as well - sanctions hurt everyone which helps no one in an internal ethnic conflict. And weapons sanctions only leave the weaker side defenseless and primed for slaughter by the better armed side.
And that's before you look at the cost of the exercise in terms of life and money for what will be extremely divisive inside the country and internationally. No matter how bad things get, if the West were to put boots on the ground in this conflict or similiar there are plenty of people going around calling "imperialism", and bad things will happen no matter how good your intentions.
This conflict, like many others, has ethnic elements, but it is more of a war between Abiy(with the help of another country, Eritrea) and Tigray/TPLF than just an ethnic conflict. Abiy wants to consolidate his power by destroying his most prominent opponent (the TPLF) and its supporters (mainly Tigrayans), and Isaias Afwerki, the Eritrean president, wants to revenge on the TPLF/Tigray for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. I'll copy-paste what I commented elsewhere in the video in the second paragraph if you want more of my take on the origins of this conflict. In general, it's not an ethnic conflict where one has to kill each side to maintain the balance and stop the fighting. The Fano and the other militias are small and unorganized groups when compared to the TPLF and the Ethiopian government. I think if all other options fail and military intervention is needed, a limited air action against military installations in Ethiopia/Eritrea, without deploying fighting troops on the ground, could help solve it like in the case of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and even might be necessary to avoid another Syria or even Rwanda. That's the only thing that would force Abiy/Isaias to negotiate or stop the fighting and/or the deadly siege. Right now, there is nothing that's forcing Abiy and Isaias to stop the conflict -- They're just waiting for the Tigrayans to perish through war or starvation. After stopping the fighting and/or the deadly siege, the TPLF can continue leading Tigray, where it has popular support and is elected, and Abiy and Isaias can continue leading their respective countries without creating a power vacuum that might lead to other problems that we see in other parts of the world. I'll copy-paste what I promised in the next paragraph. It's what I commented somewhere else, so forgive me for the transition and in case there are any points irrelevant to this discussion.
Here is what I believe is true about this conflict (I am an Ethiopian btw):
The TPLF left their government and military positions to Abiy starting in 2018 without firing a single bullet. Abiy made a series of bad policy decisions since he came to power -- like freeing criminals and letting in armed groups like the OLA that were fighting the Ethiopian government from abroad. After a year or two, the people started to see the results of his bad decisions. However, instead of taking responsibility for his failures and mitigating the problems, Abiy just scapegoated the TPLF for every problem that he started facing because of his decisions. Remember, Abiy was not elected by the people when he came to power. He was selected from the ruling party (EPRDF), which also had TPLF as its member, to tame the Oromo protests at the time; Abiy is half-Oromo. The election was to be held in 2020, which is in 2 years since Abiy came to power. In 2020, many people already saw the outcomes of his bad decisions, and that would have been a huge problem for his new party in the upcoming elections. His new party is called the Prosperity Party, and he created it by dismantling the EPRDF and by "asking" its members to join his new party. He did this mainly to centralize his power by taking power away from the regional states, which were represented by parties inside the EPRDF. The smaller parties joined his new party, but TPLF, which was ruling the Tigray region refused to join his party and decided to become his opponent in the upcoming elections. That's when he started to weaken the TPLF and ramp up the scapegoating even more. Despite his attempts to weaken the TPLF and scapegoat it for every problem he faced because of his bad decisions, the TPLF still enjoyed popular support in Tigray and some other parts of the country. It was obvious that TPLF would win the regional elections in Tigray and could even be a major challenger for Abiy at the national level if TPLF teams up with other parties in the country. As the elections came closer and he realized more that his power is in danger, he decided to indefinitely postpone the election by blaming it on COVID and take care of his political opponents until he deems it safe for him. He first arrested his opponents in Oromia that were not armed and then set his eyes on Tigray. Since Tigray was armed, the only way he could put out its government (the TPLF) was through war. To be sure he comes on top in the end, he teamed up with his friend in Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, who wanted to revenge on the TPLF for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. They started the war on Nov 3, 2020, while the rest of the world's attention was on the US elections, and presented TPLF's response as a provocation by the TPLF. They shut down all communications and virtually barred all international media from entering Tigray so that they could set all the narratives. It seems it has worked for them to a large extent. After they pushed the TPLF out of Mekele, the capital of Tigray, in the first round of war, Abiy was ready for election -- even though COVID, which was given as a reason for the postponement of the election, was still raging. Abiy won the election pretty comfortably without elections even having taken place in Tigray because it's "unsafe" (see the game plan?). Please read these 2 articles to get more information about how the war started and the context:
1. "The Nobel Peace Prize That Paved the Way for War in Ethiopia" -- The New York Times
2. "Is Ethiopia Headed for Civil War?" -- Foreign Policy
I notice you haven't been talking about Myanmar or Yemen much, nor Mexico. In particular, Myanmar seems to have gotten more violent. Wikipedia thinks it's the second most deadly conflict of 2022 after Ukraine.
No one talks about places that have very little international effects or small economies.
The sac forces are on the ropes do to a lack of Russian aid. If Russia fails soon, we will see a lot of conflict zones explode with a shortage of cheap Russian equipment for governments to counter rebel groups. Most likely seeing the governments of Myanmar, Belarus, Syria, and Ethiopia collapse. While forces like in Yemen and Lebanon could face major set backs with Iran turning in on itself right now.
Oh boy, do I have news for you:
“Azerbaijan attacks Armenia.”
This is the same things people said about Nigeria at the start of the Boko-haram insurgency, 10+ years later and Nigeria is still united and Terrorist are surrendering en masse. The conflict in Ethiopia will likely play out the same way.
Once Ethiopia, a legitimate government, started buying drones from turkey, they very quickly overwhelmed the tigrayan forces
If it needs to, it will happen again quickly
@@alezar2035 yes, that is something he hasn't mentioned in the video: a legitimate government has access to financial and human resources that rebel groups lack and if necessary they can institute a military draft or devote huge percentages of the country's GDP to military purchases
Nigeria... is in a far worse place today then it was ten years ago. You may want to rethink your statement
@@onijaanjonu3367 Boko-haram was in control of the North-Eastern Nigeria ten years ago, how can now possibly be worse
@@Kudejo see, your problem is that that is your only point of awareness of that country.
Boko haram remains active in the north east. ISWAP have joined them and have become an even greater threat. Murder rates have exploded to become the 9th highest on earth. So called terroristic robbers euphemistically called "bandits" commit kidnappings and attack government buildings with impunity. The issue of piracy in the niger delta remains totally unaddressed. Fulani herdsmen attack farmers with no repercussion to the point of the outbreak of ethnic violence. Separatist sentiments have flaired up in the south east, with the president implying the destruction of the populations involved. Further separatism has flared up in the south western third of the country. The economy has been stagnant for the past 6 years. Corruption is at an all time high. The situation is far far worse than it was in the time, and the situation grows more dire by the day.
As a Tigrayan, I thank you for covering this topic. Since the War in Ukraine began and the world started to destabilize, the interstate War in the Horn of Africa with Ethiopia at its center has been relegated to the side. This diminished the mounting international pressure put on the Addis Ababa regime; thus the Crimes against Humanity and the humanitarian crisis persists.
Unfortunately it's always because that war does not effect the world like the Ukrainian one does. Also regions that always go to war or have wars often are ignored. If you don't participate in world trade or you don't have much to do with country that does . You will be ignored by most of the world . One of the worst ignored wars/conflict is the rawandan genocide . Nobody and I mean nobody tried to stop it . The world just let it happen , and most people don't even know about it .
Certain corrections/additions here.
1: the ceasefire was unilateral from the government and TPLF kept attacking and looting neighboring regions outside of Tigray,
2: although it's true that aid was withheld from entering certain parts of Tigray, there have been numerous accounts that witness that aid that reaches the region has been diverted by TPLF to rebel fighters instead of the civilians in need
3: TPLF's war crimes regarding forcing boys as young as 13 to join the fight and threatening their families if they refuse is not mentioned
4: the alleged killings perpetrated by Fano militia is false, the militia doesn't operate outside Amhara region and only acts in defence of the region, not attack.
5: the OLF militia that aims for the disintegration of the country is the one that launches massacres of non-Oromo citizens in Benshangul, southern Amhara, parts of Somali region and SNNP regions in aim to weaken the national gov, even aligning themselves with the TPLF until the Ethiopian New Year (SEP.11) when the TPLF and central gov opened talks for peaceful reconciliation.
6: the gov has been spewing horrible propaganda about how well the war is going through gov owned media's and jailing journalists that report otherwise, ethnic tensions in the capital are at an all time high with neighbors fighting and the social fabric being broken
As an Ethiopian it's heart wrenching to see people you grew up with and lived with be targeted or vilified due to just speaking a different language, but the tension has been brewing for a long while and it was inevitable, I just long for the time ethnic-based politics is outlawed and a functional system put in place to cultivate a culture of cooperation among ethnicities and take the country out of desolation
I have no idea how accurate these statements are, or what you're leaving out, but I like how they're not all tilted towards one side in the war. (Of course, that doesn't actually prevent it from being biased, and including at least one statement supporting every bias would be a good way to hide bias.)
@@Mr.Nichan none of it is accurate. Hes a government supporter trying to smear Tigray people.
@@Tribuneoftheplebs "none is accurate"
I see, so you're saying the government HASN'T been spewing horrible propaganda.
@@Mr.Nichan who knows. They ban all independent journalism so nobody can say one way or another. Many reporters in prison. Sort of like North Korea.
It is tragic, what is happening in Ethiopia.
Why is the video talking from one side/perspective about a very complicated thing, like ethiopia?
You said that the ceasefire stopped, but you didn't mention that the ethiopian armed forces were the one who made the ceasefire, and the tplf was the one who stopped it by pushing into amhara region with a surprise attack.
And you haven't mentioned that the humanitarian aids reached tigray from the UN and of course the ethiopian federal government, but the tplf looted much of the aids for their army, the un also reported that 500,000 tons of fuel was stolen by the tplf from the UN.
And finally, you failed to mention that abiy is still the most popular leader, especially among younger generations, compared to the elite
you're brainwashed by your government narrative
AAANNND there's the biased comment accusing others of bias
@@3bydacreekside talking from an ethiopian perspective
@@Omer1996E.C And your personal perspective.
I agree that these information should've been included as well, assuming they are true and verifiable.
Thanks for making this video. I admit this video offers a more balanced view of the war than many Western news outlets, but can I point out in good faith that some important pieces of information have not been included? 1. It was a blitzkrieg operation carried out by the TPLF rebels against government military bases stationed in Tigray which started the war esrly November 4, 2020; 2. Some audiences may find it deeply upsetting that you had not covered the atrocities and war crimes committed by TPLF militia on the neighboring Amhara and Afar regions in areas like Maikadra, Chenna, Galicoma, Qobbo, and by OLA against innocent civilians in several districts in and around Wollega in Oromis region. 3. While TPLF has claimed aid was not reaching Tigray, the government has claimed it had indeed arrived Mekelle - Tigray's regional capital - but had been hijacked by TPLF itself to boost its war efforts. I have reason to believe that while Tigray had been effectively shut out from receiving aid, TPLF has - per testimonies of displaced Tigrayans who had escaped the war zone - indeed stolen food aid and gas that had finally reached the region. In any case, I am glad that both parties appear to be om the verge of agreeing to a ceasefire 😃😃 we have suffered quite enough.
good insight!
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Well I wish Africa was more united but Sudan, Ethiopia over Eritrea, etc put that to an end...
United based on what? I feel like you westerns seem to think we Africans are some type of Monolith. Like any Continent people have different norms, Values, Laws, Traditions, Languages, religions and further multitude of differences. Many of what i just listed are so fundamental to peoples lives that they would rather death then to compromise on them.
@@ibrahimhassan711 OK mate sorry I forgot about how you have tribes and such like Native Americans and such.
Just kinda wish that you guys could have more unity and be close than apart ok?
Heck China (although oppressive than a federation) has many different people but is one country with the Mandarin Language and such. Hm?
@@ibrahimhassan711 I wish to see Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi be united as it once was for example. Better than the dictator in Zimbabwe who has hopefully died now.
Please, leave links in description/comments to videos you refer to :)
They summarize the news you can check their website for their sources
Terrible video. Check out any Map of the current situation any map will show you that the rebel groups occupy non agriculture un-industrialized lands that hold little importance.
The last time the media talked about the TPLF and OLA they claimed they wer at the gates of the capital and would soon end the war.
Spoiler they didn't. Even now weeks after the TPLF launched their offensive it has failed and stalled despite their seizure of U.N oil and food supplies meant for the people of Tigray not their child soldiers.
Now their terrorist forces are trying to gain peace with the A.U's assistance but at this point they have no chips to wager.
Tigray should definitely secede. I would support it 100%.
No. Is Eritrea not enough?
Last night there was also some severe fighting along the armenian-azerbaijan border. Just bad times all around.
Quite the raw version of this video on Nebula ;)
Correction- TDF is not a collection of other forces who oppose Abiy. The only force that we have connection is with the Agew fighters because we are neighbors and we believe in the same idea. Instead TDF is Tigray defense force , the fighters are Tegaru who want to protect their people, identity, culture, religion…. In general their freedom.
Based
i prefer the Nebula opening tbh
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Here is what I believe is true about this conflict (I am an Ethiopian btw):
The TPLF left their government and military positions to Abiy starting in 2018 without firing a single bullet. Abiy made a series of bad policy decisions since he came to power -- like freeing criminals and letting in armed groups like the OLA that were fighting the Ethiopian government from abroad. After a year or two, the people started to see the results of his bad decisions. However, instead of taking responsibility for his failures and mitigating the problems, Abiy just scapegoated the TPLF for every problem that he started facing because of his decisions. Remember, Abiy was not elected by the people when he came to power. He was selected from the ruling party (EPRDF), which also had TPLF as its member, to tame the Oromo protests at the time; Abiy is half-Oromo. The election was to be held in 2020, which is in 2 years since Abiy came to power. In 2020, many people already saw the outcomes of his bad decisions, and that would have been a huge problem for his new party in the upcoming elections. His new party is called the Prosperity Party, and he created it by dismantling the EPRDF and by "asking" its members to join his new party. He did this mainly to centralize his power by taking power away from the regional states, which were represented by parties inside the EPRDF. The smaller parties joined his new party, but TPLF, which was ruling the Tigray region refused to join his party and decided to become his opponent in the upcoming elections. That's when he started to weaken the TPLF and ramp up the scapegoating even more. Despite his attempts to weaken the TPLF and scapegoat it for every problem he faced because of his bad decisions, the TPLF still enjoyed popular support in Tigray and some other parts of the country. It was obvious that TPLF would win the regional elections in Tigray and could even be a major challenger for Abiy at the national level if TPLF teams up with other parties in the country. As the elections came closer and he realized more that his power is in danger, he decided to indefinitely postpone the election by blaming it on COVID and take care of his political opponents until he deems it safe for him. He first arrested his opponents in Oromia that were not armed and then set his eyes on Tigray. Since Tigray was armed, the only way he could put out its government (the TPLF) was through war. To be sure he comes on top in the end, he teamed up with his friend in Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, who wanted to revenge on the TPLF for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. They started the war on Nov 3, 2020, while the rest of the world's attention was on the US elections, and presented TPLF's response as a provocation by the TPLF. They shut down all communications and virtually barred all international media from entering Tigray so that they could set all the narratives. It seems it has worked for them to a large extent. After they pushed the TPLF out of Mekele, the capital of Tigray, in the first round of war, Abiy was ready for election -- even though COVID, which was given as a reason for the postponement of the election, was still raging. Abiy won the election pretty comfortably without elections even having taken place in Tigray because it's "unsafe" (see the game plan?). Please read these 2 articles to get more information about how the war started and the context:
1. "The Nobel Peace Prize That Paved the Way for War in Ethiopia" -- The New York Times
2. "Is Ethiopia Headed for Civil War?" -- Foreign Policy
The TPLF (old government) is bitter about losing their power and so they started a war to try and regain it. The current government's inability to stop them has meant that other militias will now make their own attempts at gaining power. A sad story for ordinary Ethiopians who just want a better life.
As an Ethiopian, I'd respectfully disagree. The TPLF left their government and military positions to Abiy starting in 2018 without firing a single bullet. Abiy made a series of bad policy decisions since he came to power -- like freeing criminals and letting in armed groups like the OLA that were fighting the Ethiopian government from abroad. After a year or two, the people started to see the results of his bad decisions, but instead of taking responsibility for his failures and mitigating the problems, Abiy just scapegoated the TPLF for every problem that he started facing because of his decisions. Remember, Abiy was not elected by the people when he came to power. He was selected from the ruling party (EPRDF), which also had TPLF as its member, to tame the Oromo protests at the time; Abiy is half-Oromo. The election was to be held in 2020, which is in 2 years since Abiy came to power. In 2020, many people have already seen the outcomes of his bad decisions, and it would have been a huge problem for his new party in the upcoming elections. His new party is called the Prosperity Party, and he created it by dismantling the EPRDF and by "asking" its members to join his new party. He did this mainly to centralize his power by taking away power from the regional states which were represented by parties inside the EPRDF. The smaller parties joined his new party, but TPLF, which was ruling the Tigray region refused to join his party and decided to become his opponent in the upcoming elections. That's when he started to weaken the TPLF and ramp up the scapegoating even more. Despite his attempts to weaken the TPLF and scapegoat it for every problem he faced because of his bad decisions, the TPLF still enjoyed popular support in Tigray and some other parts of the country. It was obvious that TPLF would win the regional elections in Tigray and could even be a major challenger for Abiy at the national level if TPLF teams up with other parties in the country. As the elections came closer and he realized more that his power is in danger, he decided to indefinitely postpone the election by blaming it on COVID and take care of his political opponents until he deems it safe for him. He first arrested his opponents in Oromia that were not armed and then set his eyes on Tigray. Since Tigray was armed, the only way he could put out its government (the TPLF) was through war. To be sure he comes on top in the end, he teamed up with his friend in Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, who wanted to revenge on the TPLF for the loss he faced after the war with Ethiopia while the TPLF was in power. They started the war on Nov 3, 2020, while the rest of the world's attention was on the US elections, and presented TPLF's response as a provocation by the TPLF. They shut down all communications and virtually barred all international media from entering Tigray so that they could set all the narratives. It seems it has worked for them to a large extent. Please read these 2 articles to get more information about how the war started and the context:
1. "The Nobel Peace Prize That Paved the Way for War in Ethiopia" -- The New York Times
2. "Is Ethiopia Headed for Civil War?" -- Foreign Policy
@@BM-df9bp wow. this is my first time actually hearing the story from the tigray point of view. i dont really know what to think
@@yomamaballsinmyw Yeah, I'm not surprised. There are few places where you can hear the Tigrayan perspective from. I am an Amhara myself. However, I have been following the political developments in my country for many years, and I'll speak out for what I believe is true, whenever I can, regardless of my ethnicity. Most of the Tigrayans that could tell you their POV are under a communications blackout, and the small number of Tigrayans that live abroad would always lose in the war of narratives with Abiy/Isaias supporters that live in the respective countries + abroad. For instance, if you're an informed & objective person and read the Wikipedia page about the war, you'll literally laugh. It got to the point when Wikipedia put a label saying "This article may contain excessive or inappropriate references to self-published sources", which is an understatement really.
@@BM-df9bp Why do you need to tell us you are Amhara? Unknowingly you expose yourself as Wayane or a terrorist TPLF sympathizer!
very interesting
Ethiopia, Eritrea and Sudan uniting in a EAC type union is more likely than Tigray (the poorest region in the country) achieving independence.
Never gonna happen
Sudan and Ethiopia possible but not eritera. Eritera just want to do business for tigray other hand its hard say tigray people are crazy who would love to stay with Ethiopia even after genocide long us abiy is arrested. But with eritera and Somalia is just joke lol.
I'm surprised they haven't already
the Nebula version of this video is much more interesting, better sign up soon or it be replaced.
Fuck it divide the country. I’m Ethiopian and I’m tired of hearing about this non ending squabbles between the ethnic groups.
The international community really needs to step up pressure to make Ethiopia allow aid into Tigray. It isn't a matter of politics it's about saving literally hundreds of thousands of lives and for many it's already too late.
Or what? What're you gonna threaten them with that doesn't just make the situation worse?
no, they did to aid ethiopian federal forces.
tigray 6% of the population control all of ethiopia for way to long.
now an amhara/oromo president comes into power and decided not to disband the tigray's government strangle on power, and centralized the government, they go ape shit and start trying to seperate.
a country has the right to defend itself, and the tplf is definitely not the victims.
you uplodaded the wrong file in Nebula.
You are a news channel like realifelore which is good cuz it attracts also us geography and history nerds
I signed up for curiosity stream using your link, but I don’t see how to get to nebula or your videos. Even if I search for nebula your videos don’t show up.
Guys, heads up. Whoever uploads videos to Nebula has uploaded the full uncut, un-edited shot 🤷♂️
So many factions, so many different militias. I hope this won't end in another endless war and failed state.
It will be terrible if they collapse, lets hope not.
Free Tigray
Tigray should just be independent
@@rajkaranvirk7525 they will be too poor to be anything
@@g4m3r222 It’s not about being poor it’s about freedom. At least they’ll have control over their own destiny
@@rajkaranvirk7525 okay in the middle of the mountains without sea sure good destiny, they cannot survive alone i think
So where is the link for other videos 2 videos?
lmaooo the nebula version is greatttt
I hope the best for my country ethiopia hopefully we can find am agreement so we can get a fast growing economy and become an African power
Neat
i just want Ethiopia war ends and make way for peace
i m hoping the best for Ethiopians
Tigray should definitely secede.
Will you make a video on what's happening between Armenia and Azerbaijan?
Tldr needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees
could you do a video on the political Situation in Georgia (country)
Thank the Derg for decades of trouble. Restore the Emperor!
The emperor is the root cause of our war to be honest. He mobilized every ethiopian resource gor the elite and amharas and he persecuted oromos, as well as many other minorities and most significantly, muslims, he favored the much smaller Jewish population. Although the amharas didn't hate oromos, oromos started to hate amharas because the emperor was amhara.
If the empire was restored, it would only compose of amhara region, and other regions would eventually revolt
I don't thonk the Tigrayans actually want that, they are very proud of the thousand years civilisation of Axum-Ethiopia and claim that they were the ones who founded it that the Amhara and especially the Oromo only later migrated into a cvilisation created by the Tigrayans. Rememmber the Tigrayans used to be in charge of Ethiopia back after the fall of the monarchy.
You think that this is about ancient history? Then you don't know much about politics. It's a ploy for agression. Eritrea was a large part of Aksum and the economic center of the empire. You don't see Eritrea boasting about wanting to control Tigray or Ethiopia.
@@enqrbit No? Because Eritrea is not currently invading Tigray?
@@DaDunge no because eritera want to remove it not own it? The eritera want to separate history related to tigrayan and amhara in their history and try to make pure eritera history. They hate Ethiopia do much they even say habesha is dirty name.
The Nebula uload of this video is a bit interesting...
I think you acidently uploaded the uncut version with a lot of retakes and mumbling..
You should also cover Nigeria's shaky status as well
Admin,please do Malaysian Political status
500,000 lives!! Why haven't I heard about this??
Do you have your head in the sand? It's been reported on for years now, but I don't blame you for missing it. It isn't a top news story in most of NA and EU, and as such might only get a footnote report. Plus it got much worse during Covid, when most news outlets were reporting on that.
Because racism still exists in media
Because there not white people
“Complete collapse” LMAO
it’s wild to me that Ethiopians have so little attachment to a country they have been part in one way or another since pre-history
I know! It's really bizarre to me
its a confusing conflict.
the two groups
amhara and tigray make up most of the old ethiopian empires.
tigray claims that they were the real ethiopia and that amhara's are stealing their history.
Dose it really matter to you at the other end ? It's we who are living in the region who are expected to understand more about whatever is trending .
2:30: Wait. Israel and Iran are on the same side in this conflict?
Why is nobody talking about this?
Because its a black country so it does not matter in world politics
What happened with the nebula version of this video, it's practically unwatchable
Wokeistanis in America should lecture to Africans regarding race relations. Let’s see how well their message is received.
“Ethiopia 🇪🇹 as we know it will disappear into history, that the world 🌍 tolerates new countries progress their own socioeconomic communities, multiculturalism represents a venomous shadow of European colonialism itself”
Ethiopia wasn't colonized
@@catmonarchist8920 I have no clue what he was commenting about.
@@catmonarchist8920 It's "diversity" is a result of the recent imperialism of the Ethiopian empire. Most of it was in a sense colonised, fairly recently.
It's a shame what's happening in Ethiopia
I wonder how different things would have been if the Emperor was still around
I think better than now, but still not good for many reasons. The emperor was overthrown because of most ethiopians hating him in the first place. Most ethiopians who weren't living in amhara, tigray and addis ababa regions
Well, if the Emperor was still around, he'd be the oldest person on Earth, at 130 years old. As well as the oldest regent, having reigned for 92 years.
So at least some things would be different from now.
@@Tjalve70
Firstly I got a laugh from this.
But yeah I didnt mean the last Emperor. A relative that held the title
@@Omer1996E.C What do you mean most Ethiopians not living in tigray? Haile Selassie literally ignored droughts and famine in tigray, and even after that Haile Selassie made policies so that tigray wouldn't grow and then become a threat to his reign. But unfortunately for him derg came in instead, and they too also did the same thing to tigray(other regions as well) as Haile Selassie. Which is why the tplf wanted a ethnic-federalist ethiopia where they could be represented and such things would no longer happen to minorities like them in ethiopia anymore.
Wait, isn't Ethiopia Cristian? Why alqaeda operates there?
It has a large Muslim minority
Somalia is our neighbor and it's continously entering into our borders.
And ethiopia is 40 percent muslim, just for the sake of knowledge
@@Omer1996E.C Yeah, according to the 2007 census 34%
@@Omer1996E.C thanks. Now it's more clear
@@navinthehouse4710 according to many somalis, afars and tigrian muslims, many of them weren't counted, and it was done during the tplf rule, which was distorting the statistics to justify it's elections.
Plus, you can see from the same census that the muslim population is continously increasing due to higher fertility rate and lower ethnic violence in these regions.
So, I'm sure it's more like 40 percent, maybe 39 or something like that
Tigrayans used to love issayas of Eritrea, they fought alongside each other and ousted the former ruling government, but Eritrea just got independence with the land they grabbed while tplf took control of the country. Slowly escalating, they went as far as stabbing one other in the back... Blames goes to both sides elite whom wanted more power
How come Ethiopia's GDP has increased 10-fold in under 2 decades?
10 folds? It's fake. Ethiopia has grown 10 percent for years, but never 10 times in 2 decades
@@Omer1996E.C I just googled ethiopia gdp and this is what came up. Kenia has shows similar growth.
@@dewaard3301 in real gdp terms, ethiopia has grown less than 5 folds in 2 decades, pretty impressive, but not 10 folds. It's mainly by the buried ethiopian potential, ethiopia had huge potentials, but the communist government and the civil war made it hard to work for educated people and for rich individuals to use their wealth
I guess we’ll see if China moves in, since they seem to be the most invested major power for Ethiopia?
China has already invested in the GDP of Ethiopia. Almost every hotel you see in that country has been built off chinese investors 🇨🇳 💴
80 yrs of European peace. Humanity will never change-_-
So what are the UN or AU doing about his massive loss of Human life in 2021/22?
Why just give the region its independence?
It's not only TPLF all tigrayean peoples wants their independence not only them other minorities in Ethiopia do not like the only Amharic government
Hate to break it to you, but the government is mostly Oromos. May not represent the people of Oromia, but they are Oromos nonetheless, with interests differing from the Amhara
@@bulletsizednuke1100 people always blame Amharas even when Amharas aren't controlling anything at all
While next door in Somolia a massive famine is occurring.
Meh they have like 8 kids each
It really upsets me how the ear in Ukraine is getting like 15 times the cover as this conflict. I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be covered, but other conflicts like this one should not be so sidelined in comparison.
Ukraine is a far simpler story and far more relevant to most people watching. Ukraine was attacked by a fascist and imperialist state that had been viewed as enemy number 1 for decades, and they defended their country with western support. Compared to a brutal civil war in Africa, with both sides being less than perfect and western viewers not really involved it makes a lot of sense. The situation is horrible and tragic but it's not going to have the same ripple effects at home and abroad for most countries in the world.
The war in Ukraine has global effects. A nuclear armed power is invading a sovereign nation, who is backed by the EU, one of the worlds economic superpowers, along with NATO, the worlds largest military alliance. One wrong move and all of a sudden we’re flirting with WW3. Also, the war in Ukraine has the ability to cut off grain shipments to the Middle East and energy to Europe, thus destabilizing both regions simultaneously. You hear more about the war in Ukraine than the war in Ethiopia because quite bluntly it is more important. And it’s not particularly close.
Is Ethiopia really going the way of Yugoslavia? Will Abiy Ahmed become Ethiopia's Mikhail Gorbachev?
Nah, they'll be fine
I can safely say this video lacks a big chunk of background knowledge and the current situation of the situation. I appreciate you trying but do better if you gonna continue reporting on this matter because it matters.
Not to be fatuous, but do these people fighting happen to be the descendants of the millions we saved a generation ago?
I just wonder what Ethiopia's neighbors will do.
Like will the Nile countries start using this to destroy Ethiopia's dams or will Eritrea invade Ethiopia?
If it falls (I hope it’s not I love eithopia) I hope that Ogaden (Somali region) invades Somalia and makes deal with somaliland to get greater Somalia
@@user-dz4eb5rb3g I mean they still holding the same thoughts they used to hold during the 1977 war that happened between Somalia and ethiopia.
Eritrea split from Ethiopia too so this isn’t a new thing 😊
Welp, Ethiopia is at war while chaos starts happening around the world, I guess we're in 1936
No..... Ethiopia 😤
Yes, Ethiopia should’ve split up into to different countries along time ago
I'll say it again and again. The Imperial Royal family should go and unify the people. Ethiopia needs a unifying symbol.
Sorry to say this, but it is because of the imperial family that the war is continuing. The imperial family was taking all ethiopian resources to consolidate it's power and strengthen amharas by spreading their culture, religion and dominance throughout ethiopia by force, excluding all other ethnic and religious groups, particularly Muslim and rarely protestant populations
@@Omer1996E.C I'm sorry to say this but that may have been the case in the 1800s but by the 1900s, Ethiopia was reasonably unified and tensions were not as high as they are now. the Imperial house did have its fault, im not going to say they didn't, but right now, given the situation of the nation, they can unify the nation. Again, the country needs a symbol, something to rally under and Ethiopia has a very rich history, and the return of the emperor can help, or at least I do believe it possible.
@@FRIEND_711 I'm not telling you about armed conflicts, but about where the roots of hatred are.
The roots of today's hatred between ethnic groups and religions in ethiopia is mostly from the 20th century.
All ethnic groups never got chance to own a firearm, but now they have. Back then if they had it, ethiopia would be in a very long history of civil war.
Go to oromo region, almost as every oromo knows the history of the statue where emperor minilik ll was depicted holding a teared oromo woman's body organ in his hands, as an amhara legacy. It's really hard to convince them now that amharas and oromos are people of the same nation.
The imperial royal family are Amhara they would not be a unifying influence at this point. Then again Abiy Ahmed is Oromo and the Oromo are up in revolution against him anyway.
@@Omer1996E.C The Tigrayans aren't muslims though. Only the Oromo are majority muslim and Abiy Ahmed is an Oromo. Part of the reason Tigray is in uprising is that it can acept being under Amharan rule but not under the rule of the despised Oromo. The Tigrayan narrative is that all of Ethiopia used to be Tigrayan under the empire of Axum then other peoples moved in and took over, first the Amhara (though that was a thousand years ago) then later the Oromo.
This is so sad. I wish would chill haha
I think it's all because of the damn dam
after one year of this video, a new war is going, this time it's on Amhara, and it could be worse than the tigray war since Amhara are the second large ethnic group of the country.
The was no civil war with the TPLF, you better double check. Eritrea is a country and Tigray is a province , part of Ethiopia!!!???
we are living on the precipice of our eras world wars. Stay safe
Hope Africans find some way to stabilize their population at this rate situation will be worsening not only For Africa but also for the Whole world.
Scrap the Nobel peace prise! 💥
Time for national unity
This doesn't get 10% coverage compared to Ukraine War.
The war in Ethiopia started before the war in Ukraine..... Humanity 😂.....
This video hasn't aged well.
Because of one terrorist group (tplf) ethiopia is not split or divided.period
I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Europe, people are caring less and less about Ukraine. They won't even look twice at Ethiopia, let alone care or help.
Ukraine after half a year becomes a constant. The initial shock of what is happening is over and people lose interest. But that doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of people still helping or in fact that you yourself can help.
Don't know where you get the idea that we care less about Ukraine.
Well, in Germany and the west they don't care (and never cared, never will care) but here in the eastern part of EU we still care a lot
@@averagebohemian5791 You know that for a fact do you?
@@DaDunge Great Britain, Norway, Canada and the USA are the only countries doing enough. And that's their governments, not the people. Most of them switched the Ukrainian flags in their profile for rainbow flags as soon as it stopped being cool.