Could Azawad Become Africa's Newest Country? - TLDR News
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In 2012 Azawad, a region of Mali, declared independence from their home country. However, the new nation didn't last long, begging to rejoin only a year later. With tensions rising though, some suspect that Azawad might make an exit again, and attempt to become Africa's newest country.
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I am wondering why Mali doesn't just "cut their losses" at this time?
That region sounds like it is leagues more trouble then it is worth.
Any resources in Azawad worth fighting over?
Historically it was part of the mali empire and contains the ancient city of timbuktu
@@JackDrewitt So this is only about being able to claim the name? Or are the goldmines still active and relevant?
@@JackDrewitt I guess being able to claim all of the Mali Empires lands might be useful for a conqueror. But given the military fails at even holding half the country, seems like a pointless feature.
if they decide to give azawad independence, it'll lead to other rebellious ethnic groups to seek independence as well and eventually mali would end up becoming yugoslavia'd. same reason why spain doesnt wanna let go of catalonia
The government might be scared of a domino effect where other ethnic groups in the country are going to try the same thing in the near future. Furthermore losing the majority of your country to some rebels is a big humiliation for the government and the army.
Mali has a population of 19 million. 700,000 are Tuareg.
Lots of errors in this video. 1.) Fulani are a West African group that originated in Fouta Djallon highlands in Guinea but dispersed across the Sahel due to their nomadic traditions. 90% of Fulanis reside in West Africa from Senegal to Nigeria. They are not a "Central African" group that's indigenous to Darfur or Eritrea, as those are relatively associated with more recent Eastward migration. The Fulanis are just as West African culturally as the Bambaras and are closest related to the Server and Wolof of Senegal.
2.) The Tuaregs are not discriminated for being "lighter-skin". That's a very Eurocentric projection/sentiment. There are Tuaregs with dark and light completions and entire clans made up of exclusively darker skin people. Due to decades of western colonialism and socialization, colorism actually favors people with lighter skin complexion all over much of Africa. However, the Tuaregs do face some marginalization largely due to their minority status, however not for being "light skin" as you put it
3.) You left out that Tuaregs are still a minority (although quite visible) in the Azawad state. The Songhais are also an indigenous tribe in Northern Mali and they far outnumber the Tuaregs in numbers. Out of the three region that makes up Northern Mali, only Kidal has an absolute Tuareg majority.
Good comments 👍
Thank you very much
More informative than the video itself. Excellent comment !
Good comment. I have to add that there are some other factors that lead to resentment against Tuareg.
1. They are a partial matriarchy and their version of Islam is very moderate in many aspects. Men have to cover themselves (the male mouth is considered vulgar because cunnilingus.) A bride is not expected to be a virgin when getting married.
A woman or the head of the family (also a women) usually has the final word in whom she marries.
Female genital mutilation is forbidden and considered barbaric and vile (as it should be). They are opposed to aspects of the sharia and do not practise it.
2. Because of their tribal nature, they had a history of raiding other tribal groups. They belong to the groups that participated in the slave trade. They have some kind of caste system that allows for upward social mobility. Slaves were often integrated into the tribal structure, with their descendants eventually fully assimilated into the tribe. Of course the tribes they were often at war with also often had some of their people enslaved furthering resentment and hate. Some black-African tribes came to resent them. Others are on good terms with them.
3. Their nomadic culture and lifestyle often clashes with other tribes and groups. They are dependent on traversing the desert.
Due to postcolonial boarders, this traversal is often hindered. To putt it blunt: They only care about the desert and they only want to live there. Their dream would be for all Tuareg across the Sahara be able to life their nomadic culture an lifestyle.
Ok from this short and simplified summary, you can see why they have so much "enemies" and why they clash with many groups, tribes, ideologies. That some Tuareg have a lighter skin tone is a minor factor at best. And that's not even all
of them some Tuareg have a dark skintone.
I can still remember how surprised I was when I found out that they had teamed up with Jihadists
in 2012. The video fails to mention that it was the Tuareg that ended this agreement and started to fight them, as soon as the
Jihadists implemented the sharia in the territories they had occupied.
A question do u have any sources for this? Cause otherwise it ends up being you said this tldr said that that’s why it’s good for vids to include sources so if people disagree you can go well look at there sources
Africa certainly deserves a lot more coverage. What goes on there is less directly globally influential, but what goes on in Africa certainly decides a lot of what can and cannot happen in this world.
The only reason the West doesn't cover it is that the West blames African people for their plight in destroying colonialism, therefore they think it's not important covering their wars, yet when a minor war happens in Ukraine which is a simply a border conflict of sovereignty, It gets covered because it's apart of Europe. And that is just the complete truth.
Yup, people forget how influential Africa will be when it gets it feet
Azawad is the Mauritanian and Tuareg parts of Mali
I lived in mali for 8 years. The Touaregs are good people. So are the Fulanis. I personally do not think this new state is going to do very well. They have zero industry and their territory is mostly desert. They should fight for more rights within Mali.
There are plenty of options for them in our modern era. They'll need foreign investments and foreign experts though, but mining and energy would be possible industries on which to build an economy. And then later on in the future if the violence dies down, there's always going to be the possibility of tourism.
I guess things are only going to get tougher for them as climate change gets worse. Soon we might see a refugee crisis of people living in the Sahara into the sahel and the sahel into the tropics.
the only way theyre gonna survive is if they somehow find oil or valuable resource within that vast desert.
"They should fight for more rights within Mali." Which is what the Tuaregs have been doing for many years.
@@theamici landlocked nation and mostly desert is the worst place to invest not mention about terrorism
I actually think these nations breaking up would stabilize the region because those nations could finally sort out their other messes instead of continuing with more or less pointless wars. However, I lack the knowlegde about the region to make a qualified Statement about that.
That's not quite what happened with Sudan and South Sudan, they both remain shitholes.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 True. But we also have to consider that the conflics continued, especially in South Sudan and that both remain multiethnical states which is one of the main reasons for the instability. Neither state ever was a nation state.
In short, yes, we had seperatism there, but not the kind that would solve the demographic issues of post-colonialsm.
Until these countries aren't satisfied with their borders and try to redraw them again and again...
You are probably a child if you think breaking up countries will lead to stability. These Sahel countries are unstable because of France, not because an irrelevant desert minority feels entitled to land.
@@Bayard1503how many times were german borders redrawn?
Azawad is over, it's not happening
Error: the Fulani don’t inhabit darfur and Eritrea!!!! Totally wrong side of the continents who wrote this?
I was also perplex hearing that, it has no logic.
Probably meant old Fulanis ? they moved a lot in the sahel region, from Sudan to Senegal, now they are mostly in West Africa as far as I know
Their numbers in Sudan is very small compared to other regions, which border Mali/Azawad. Was just odd to mention them. Why not also mention Fulani in France and USA and KSA. And there is none in Eritrea.
@@Moemuntz Fulani is not from east Africa
These are the videos I subscribed to the Global channel for! A topic I knew little about, which is actually very important! Thank you for that!
In 3:38 you say the Fulani inhabit "Mali, Eritrea and Dafur" which is a very weird statement since the Fulani people are known to reside in almost all West African countries, but particularly Nigeria, Mali and Senegal, where their homeland is located. Eritrea and Dafur are on the other side of the continent so I have no idea how you got them confused. Cool video anyways
Im pretty sure the fur peopel are from Darfur
To make it worse he said they're from Central Africa.
Fulani ethnic groups do stretch all the way across the sahel to Sudan/Darfur area, but you are right about their biggest numbers being in the west african countries of Mali, Niger/Nigeria and Senegal.
For those asking why can't Mali simply give up Azawad! Azawad is rich in various minerals, including gold and uranium. There is also a huge potential of oil reserves in Taoudeni Basin in the north of Azawad, which is considered to be extremely unexplored.
So the exact same reason why France won't leave Mali alone too
@@jackholman5008 resources or not they've already got control over their economy so they wouldn't be completely cut off with mali if they left them alone
Thank you so much for covering this! I saw it on the Apolitical Map, and had no idea what was going on.
France was chassed away by the Malian gouvernement ; it wasn't a withdrawal.
This war is actually more complex. The way you explain things is typically the view and version of France and western countries
and i bet your view is totally objective Youssouf.
Well ye the core of the show is very Euro-centric, cause they're all Europeans in Europe. Not saying your criticism isn't valid, but more so that that is the POV one should expect of the source.
@@captainalex157 i think that what he means is that some nuance might be necessary, as every story has two versions, and he probably thins this one as a little too biased
Why would france tell a story where they lose?
@@irohabestwaifu4651 why would france tell a story where they lose tho?
I am a Tuareg from north Mali (Azawad), who fortunately was born and lived abroad. Since the independence of Mali in 1960, the government has done nothing to improve the living standards of the northern regions. There are no roads, hospitals, running water or electricity. Moreover, during the various revolutions undertaken by the Tuareg people , the Malian army and allied ethnic militias have committed many massacres against civilian Tuaregs. Thus, the Tuareg people have no choice, but to seek independence from this failed state and be on their own!
@Kiki Kiki outside of some gold production they don’t produce any meaningful resource in that region of mali
@@ruspotter2037 Azawad is full of minerals and a huge potential of oil as well. However, these resources have not yet been extracted!
if you dont have electricity, how the fuck are you on the internet let alone this comment section, are you currently living abroad?
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love the saharan imazighen from a mountain amazigh
@@abdourahmanealkhalifa191 oil is a dying commodity dude.
I had to smile at the cosmic irony that the Tuareg people are regularly discriminated against because of their lighter skin tone.
A reminder of all how relatively subjective human tribal mentality is.
Ikr. That was the oddest thing I found
discrimination is in its core about the us vs them mentality. any kind of difference could spark it if one's not careful... or perhaps if one is petty enough.
It's usually the other way round because lighter skin generally means a person spends more time indoors, and therefore is likely to be richer and have higher status. That's the case in many countries in Asia and Africa.
That bullshit, in Africa specifically except for albino you aren’t discriminated against for being light skin.
@@jaybee4577 😂 Africa is a huge continental. Unless you have travelled to all countries in Africa, you can't say that for sure.
Great stuff again. Best explanation of the conflict I've seen so far!
The former french colonial countries of West Africa might be better off as a federation where every major ethnic group has their own Autonomous state. The current countries don't work and being an autonomous part of a federal country can help the landlocked ethnic groups like the Taureg with trade and development.
They already share common currencies (the West african and east african franc), they share a common history (french colonisation) and they share a common language (French) that they can use as a national language.
It might not be perfect, but it's a better alternative than the current situation where you have all these poor unstable countries that keep neglecting minority groups. Furthermore ethnic groups don't have to fight their current country anymore if they are an autonomous state within a west african federation.
East africa is trying to make an East african federation. West Africa could try something similair. So basically they should do something like India where you have autonomous states with multiple ethnicities and languages within one federal state.
It exists.
Its called Ecowas.
Its just progressing slowly, given the clusterfuck that is the region.
There’s a lot of ethnic people in Western Africa. They’d have to work out how to share resources, and a political government that can keep then together and prevent tribal/ethnic warfare
In an ideal world, sure. In reality, too many powerful people benefit from current states for them to do the right thing for the masses. Africa screwed itself by keeping the colonial borders instead of finding the least bloody way to give every ethnicity self-government, and there will be many more wars to come for that reason.
There is also no reason why this should be limited to the former French colonial empire in Africa. Ethnicities commonly cross borders between former French, British and Portuguese colonies. The best thing that can happen to Africa is adopting one common African language (maybe Swahili) so they can carry out your plan, but for the whole of sub-Saharan Africa rather than just the former French colonies.
@@anonymousmena8404 i dont think his main "target" there are the berbers
Umm India is a Union and not a Federation. American states have much much more freedom from Washington than Indian states have from New Delhi. India really doesn't have separate ethnicities like Africa. Marathis Punjabis Bengalis Tamils Kannadigas etc can't really be called separate ethnicities because their languages and cultures are very similar and they all emerge from a common Vedic Sanskritic Hindu ancient India and India was previously united many times under the Mauryans Guptas Delhi Sultanate Mughals before the British came along whereas groups like the Tuareg don't share a common history with other ethnic groups and they were never united in history before the French Empire.
Glad to know We Pashtuns in Pakistan arenèt the only ones discriminated against for our lighter skin. love to the tuareg from occupied Pashtunistan
Lmao, they not discriminated. They are ones discriminating against Africans. Maybe learn some history about them.
@@noob_donate_plz826 No Pashtun is a proud Pakistani. Infact there is nothing to be proud of as a Pakistani. You are an Ethnic indian who is claiming fake Pashtun ancestry
@@amazingamx1255 I’m pastu I’m Pakistani I’ve lived in a village 1 hour from Peshawar all my life proud Pakistani 🇵🇰😍
@@Girlsrule3312 da pakhto yaw lavz weilei na shei, aur zanta pakhtun waiye😂
زہ پا ستو ھی ز م
AZWAD were a band from 80s. They sang "don't turn around".
>Tuareg are regurally discrininated against because of their lighter skintone
Oh how the tables have turned...
The Curse of Ham continues, and it sucks for all involved.
it also happens in pakistan. the white Pashtun minority as treated as second class citizens
Thought you were saying “Marlean”, not “Mali-an”. I was scared we were about to start seeing Titans in Africa lol
Technically, AoT's world is set in Africa but the map is reversed. Paradis Island is Madagascar and Marley is East Africa
Interesting video! Btw what programme do you use for making the maps?
The only thing that nebula lacks is a comment section for exclusives, just to see the reactions and add on more info, but is nice to get the extra content anyways
Great video, love that your are covering Africa as well :)
Well done for making this video on a topic few people are aware of. I would have preferred the video made reference to Niger. The instability in Mali is indirectly caused by French nuclear policy in Niger. The Uranium mine there has no safety regulations, causing cancer and infant mortality on a massive scale for humans and mammals such as livestock across the entire region. For this reason it is no longer possible to live as a nomadic herder there, so the Tuareg people have instead migrated to other areas, creating the need for the MNLA as protection for them.
1:15 Western Sahara were never part of french west Africa, they are among spanish west africa, coming from a native there
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and then was occupied by morocco
@@petiteexplication6249 morocco never owned western sahara before the years leading up to colonisation or even the start where europeans started to colonise africa, the claims that moroccan government says are just shit, there are only **three** empires that owned western sahara fully plus it was centuries ago, making theirs claims weak and ineffective, infact mauritania has more chance of grabbing the territory then morocco, we sahrawis were never moroccans, the king is not ours
@@PugkinSoup there are still some parts where the Polisario controlls, morocco did attempt to grab the whole region but failed, they constructed the berm
@@Gawarasmi thats why when the spanish colonized it in 1884 the sultan of the time sent troops to laiyoune the resistance was heavily funded by the sultan up until his death when his 15yo kid took over and we were doomed
Great video! One thing, though. I think you misspoke when you mentioned that the brief peace ended in "2017." pretty sure you meant to say "2007" there. Otherwise, a very interesting and informative video. Seems we can't stop living in interesting times these days.
Great video!
Touareg in Mali are completely cut off all circles of influence, and the Touareg Region are seen as a place where corrupt politicians can enrich themselves without consequences.
In Niger on the other side they are the economic elite, its the touareg who runs the supermarkets, that import whatever it needs and even run factories. Thus, there is less need for independence there.
We should rethink the idea of 'unchangable borders' and rather see new countries emerge who can serve their population.
Watch the video from Atlas where they show what Africa would look like if divided along ethnic lines. Africa would end up having almost 300 countries.
I feel like the whole idea that African nations need to be divided along ethnic lines to survive is ridiculous and is used to hide something more serious. The biggest empire in African history, the songhai empire and Kanem bornu had many diverse ethnic groups and nobody waged war to create nationalist states then so why now?
Idk where you got your info from.... I’m Malian and I can tell you that touaregs that integrate themselves in the remaining Malian population are doing well gaining educations and not discriminated against... it only seems that way because the mind narrowed touaregs living up North play victims! I have never seen them being discriminated against or even being looked down on AT ALL in Mali
An independent Azawad is bad for stability you say? Because the current situation these past 3 decades has been SO STABLE
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
If this happens, I will become the future Tsar of Azawad.
Then I will do a red revolution in your country
Why does this already sound like a title of a great underrated Sci-Fi novel?
@@E4439Qv5 Tsar of Azawad sounds epic
More of such! Please
An (almost double-) landlocked country in the Sahel sounds very promising for great prosperity.
Sarcasm 100
nah it has quite a bit of natural resources so it's possible it could work however I'm not entirely convinced yet
Heavy investments from the Rich Arab States could help them.
@@msbhicks8358 natural resource economies often struggle and get corrupt over time. If they can somehow diversify under a good leader then they will do well
@@johnseppethe2nd2 yeah it's main issue is the possibility of military juntas coming to power, for it to be able to stay away from that they'd need international assistance
The arrogance of the people arguing for the status quo because they don't want conflict when the status quo is the reason for continual conflict is baffling, and it's weird how that's how most people come to view the situation.
You, reading this, are probably from a country that once had to fight brutal wars for your own independence. And the people who fought are now most likely considered heroes. What makes you so superior to say the Tuaregs, the Kurds or even the Catalonians?
The problem in Africa is the possibility of a domino effect, once an ethnic group is independent who would sto the other ethnicities to do the same. The majority of African states are not made by a dominant ethnic group. Last point is that a lot of modern states (China, Germany, USA...) didn’t have an homogeneous population, it was also actions made by the government to unified the nations
South Sudan...that is all
In iraq (iraqi specking here) the kurds have massive autuonomy in thier regions and even in most of the cities they have majority on they dont even raise the iraqi flag, the kurds didnt and dont need to fight in iraq to get there eventual indpendint with a simple an free refrundom they will be a new state but sadly filled with politcal dynisties and oil based economy (the same things that destrioed iraq) we still have a state of union (iraq is a fedral union country stated by the constution) and i think they only need 20 more years to fully grasp the kurdish dream.
@@aliahmedwadi5849 Let's hope so. Iraqi Kurdistan has been the most peaceful part of Iraq for a long time. It has had the least terrorism, the lowest crime rates, and the best economy of any region in Iraq. They truly deserve to be recognized.
You say the Kurds in Iraq don't need to fight, but that's because they already did. They already fought. They have complete military control, and have had so from before the American invasion. America didn't send a single soldier into Kurdistan, because the Kurds already had full control over it.
I have a lot of respect for the Kurds. Here in Norway I've met and befriended several Kurds, and they've always been warm and friendly. Growing up in a part of Norway with a lot of immigration I've known so many Middle-Eastern migrants who had nothing but bitter hatred for Norway, claiming the girls were whores, that the food was awful, that our society was rotten, refusing to get local friends. But Kurds and Iranians, both, have been completely opposite. They get local friends, are respectful and very warm and open. Lovely people, both of them. I feel sorry they have to be legally a part of a country full of terrorism, corruption and sectarian hatred.
@@funghi2606 lol what the US was historically dominated by anglo-Saxons. The Han dominate China and the Prussians created Germany. We should let africa create it own ethic borders to put an end to this fighting
interesting topic it could be in the future i wish them the best
Really interesting video
Love the content, but it sounds like the max volume of your videos is way too low
Agree
I really don’t understand why countries don’t just give independence to troublesome regions who ask for it. It solves the problem and is recognized in the un charter
It can lead to other ethnicities demanding independence. Also it will be humiliating to lose territories and threaten Government power from within
Is pretty tipical, Just think of Catalonia, Corsica, Scotland ecc
For many reasons. For instance it would be a political suicide for whoever would do such a thing.
You cant go giving everyone what they want. Eg- If theres a problem in your body(country) then you should better focus on curing it rather cutting it off and let it manage things on it own.
@@zainmudassir2964 só? France got way better after its ethnic territories broke apart. They are too much trouble
There's one option which wasn't mentioned regarding post-colonial states: unity. Instead of accepting the colonial borders French West Africa should have tried to form a united bloc, even if places with more developed national identities like Algeria and Morocco opted out. A unifying language and shared experiences of French oppression could have made a functioning nation large enough that most ethnic groups would be completely inside it, so representation could be more fluid and a domestic process for ethnic representation could be set up. Of course such a large nation would be fairly powerful, so I'm guessing France wasn't going to be supportive of that idea...
africa is far too racist for that, not to mention the religious divisions.
Yeah so you want an even bigger country with more more different ethnic groups and even bigger territory to cover and you think that it would be better and not worse? Just look at the Democratic republic of the congo and how hard it is for the government in Kinshasa to rule effectively over the eastern part of the nation. It would be an absolute mess.
just How stupid are you
"A unifying language and shared experiences of French oppression" Fun fact: generally such ethnic groups have also a shared experience of oppressing each other, which makes this idea for smaller groups even less tempting than just keeping former colonial power.
You need to know more about Africa before you suggest such. In Nigeria alone there are at least 100 different ethnic groups
Mali should just cut its losses. Or else we could watch Azawad become a de facto independent state like Somaliland, that doesn't get recognised, but actually manages to become politically stable. In both cases, forcing people that do not want to be part of a country to be part of your country just leads to endless misery. Even if Mali becomes politically stable again in the south, and they take measures to stop disadvantaging the Tuareg, it's probably far too little and far too late, at this point.
Somaliland declared independence but if they get recognition then other local governments of Somalia which are already enjoying autonomy can threaten the Capitol which is just a city state with African Union forces helping it. African Union will never recognise Somaliland or any region in Africa.
Somaliland is all Somalia not only they can never be a country its imposible but dream they kill everyone who wears any blue. they should always under Somalia or dead only two option
Somaliland has coast Azawad would be in a much worse situation.
Extremely dumb post. Azawad is not even majority Tuareg. It contains important resources too. Are you even African?
Somaliland is a perfecr reason to avoid this. There have been a few other proposed states that would further divide the region. Azwad is not only Touareg territory and giving funding to terrorists groups does not seem like a safe idea.
Me: Dang. Two coups in three years is wild.
Rome: Gotta pump that up, those are rookie numbers.
I believe the Tuareg should have their own sovereign Amazigh state. But Azawad in Mali has several problems. Firstly, not all peoples in the northern portion of Mali are Tuareg. Many peoples, especially the Songhay have their homelands along the Niger river. If Azawad became independent with the 2012 borders, it would still be a powder keg of ethnic strife. Ideally, the new state should have its borders north of the Niger river region, centered around Kidal. This would encompass primarily the Tuareg homeland, but the State would have a lot of struggles, for the land is mostly desert remote, and unproductive. The Tuareg could have the stability and National will to reach some creative solutions, and could do well living their traditional lifestyle without sacrificing much for economic growth, like Bhutan. But it would be difficult. But if it succeeds, and amazing that would be, the Tuaregs of Niger, Algeria and Lybia should join their regions in making a proper pan-Tuareg Azawad.
This century may be the time for the self-determination of peoples in Africa. Let’s hope Peace is maintained during the process.
Exactly! As a Niger Songhai, these were my thoughts also. The Songhai population in Northern Mali is greater than the Tuaregs also. Secondly, the important cities in northern Mali are also presently Songhai dominated including historical Tuareg city like Timbuktu. This would be messy if it happens
Touaregs introduced islamic slavery in these societies
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
@@dawud7864rassure toi on ne leurs cédera jamais rien ! Ils ont eut le dessus en 2012 grâce à la France mais ça c’est fini ! On va les matter comme on l’a toujours fait. Il s’agit uniquement des ifogas les kidalois la majorité des touaregs aspirent à la paix
4:00 Wow what a twist.
Great video, but you guys might want to slow down a bit just to make sure your info and script is consistent and accurate. Saying and writing 2017 when I'm pretty sure you meant 2007 is pretty bad, and you seem to have issues like this a lot. I appreciate the amount of research you all put into these videos, but maybe take a little more time to check them over before you release them.
I love it when you talk about African countries! Keep up the good work 👍
The Kurds of Africa, I'm ashamed the EU didn't recognize Azawad. They even practiced a more moderate version of Islam Turkey-style? Please let's have more of that rather than civil war and heightened extremism
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
wow, this is truly smth needs to be observed 😶😶 hope the best for the Tuareg after all those years 🙏🙏
This scenario is extremely unlikely. Most of the Tuaregs are in Niger, and I doubt Niger will tolerate a breakaway republic. As for the Tuaregs in Mali they are too few and they lack the ability to threaten the South anymore. Mali is buying a lot of helos and weapons from the Russians and Wagner is proving to be quite effective. They recently launched an attack in a jihadi controlled village where they killed about 450 terrorist and civilians. I can see them start to use the U.S. strategy in Vietnam, by indiscriminately attacking ethnic groups that produce jihadis, such as the Fulani and Tuaregs. Mali will certainly descend into a full civil war eventually, but the Tuaregs don't have a chance of winning.
"Wagner is proving to be quite effective. They recently launched an attack in a jihadi controlled village where they killed about 450 terrorist and civilians" --> :o
How is this effective, they're basically being terrorists aside the terrorists, and all it's gonna do is create more resentment...
Unless they get outside help.
@@ericjohnson7234 It is possible that Mali could get outside help, but so far, it has been very few. Considering that Europe does not want to take part in Mali due to their use of Russian weapons, I have some doubts that Mali could get an amount of outside help.
@@dolphin550 It might not. We will see.
Mali government calls the innocent civilians "territories" so they can manage actually killing them without anyone complaining about it
Calling South America "peaceful" has got to be the most misleading statement of the century lol.
Yes and no.
That region should be part of Maghreb federation in the future
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You wish. Mali and niger will never be balkanized
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My favorite part is that the Tuaregs would still be outnumbered by the Songhai and Fulani according to those borders. Even the western half of Mali next to Mauritania is full of Hassaniya Arabic speakers.
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
The Tuareg have great music btw
Everyone would be better off if Azawad is recognised and anchored by a physical border like the river. Then Azawad can focus on dealing with the extremists with aid.
@@AsiaMinor12 you didn’t read the comment properly did you?
@TLDRGlobal 3:33 "...and the Fulani a central African group inhabiting Mali, Eritrea, and Darfur."
CORRECTION: Eritrea is located in the Horn of Africa (not central Africa) and the Fulani people are not one of the 9 ethnic group who make up the country.
Would bee cool to see a video on Ambazonia next
Oh wait. I have Nebula but lost of your videos I watch in YT. Does that make a difference?
The Bambara are not a major ethnic group in Senegal
Fulani/Peul are found from Guinea Conarkry to North Sudan
I'd rather see Somaliland be recognized as an independent country. It is an amazing success story in that part of the world and is nothing like the failed state of Somalia.
We need a UN of Catalunya, Tibet, Azawad, Kabylia, Kurdistan, Taiwan, Ingushia, Western Sahara, Hong Kong, Balochistan, Somaliland, Tamil Eelam, East Turkestan, Chechnya, Southern Mongolia, Scotland, Cantonia, Basques, Tatarstan, Karen State etc...
@@qrsx66 Not all of those are independent in some the desire for independence may be waiting and some may not want it at all
Keep dreaming warya , somaliland will never be recognised, we share everything with Somalis
@@qrsx66
Quebec.
@@qrsx66 Khalistan too
this seems interesting and unexpected
is it just me or is the video volume too low?
Perhaps the surrounding countries should do what the East African Community is doing and work towards a more confederation approach. Unifying their economies and military resources would give them much more strength and coordination in dealing with these jihadis. Tiny countries are easy for aggressors to overwhelm.
I love seeing New Countries that could exist soon 😌.
Depends if the country is the result of a Union between countries, they turn out much better like the UAE, but when the countries are the byproduct of a civil war or a split they immediately turn into a war infested hell holes. I don't see how Anzawa can avoid turning into another South Sudan, specially with the developed world not been in a possition to grant aid.
Holy shit that was a wild ride
Very interesting. Would love to see you cover the Western Cape secessionist movement
Did you make a mistake when you described the locations of the Fulani people? You said they were found in Eritrea which is on the east coast of Africa next to Ethiopia.
not a mistake, the Fulani originated from there before heading west.
@@abdoulkarimdambo7905 we arent
I think that if the country of Azawad was created that it would not do well because they have no natural resources to rely on. The area is 99% desert. Maybe it would be best if they were still part of Mali but self-governing and mostly independent.
being part of mali has been tried for decades. hasn't and will not work. for all eternity the place will be in continuous conflict. Partition is the only solution
@@amazingamx1255 If northern Mali is in such a catastrophic situation it is because of the incessant rebellions
@@madoukebe4491 Whatever it may be, it has been proven that the current status quo can't be maintained and a change needs to happen
Make a video about Bougainville independence pls
Audio on this episode is not that good. Not sure if it is just my access or the video itself?
“Diversity is our greatest strength”
Diversity in Africa:
The US should recognize Azawad.
And what benefit will the US get from that
Why can't I find the nebula video? is it only me. why don't you put a link?
My country. My Azawad. My Dune.
A lot of African countries celebrate their independence as a national day.
Yet they combat liberation movements as the colonialist powers opressed them before and rally around an anti-independance principle.
I don't know what to make of that.
Some Tuaregs are very very dark.Much darker than most people in West Africa.
There are a lot of tribes lighter than them so their complexion is not why they are discriminated against t
@@user-vw6bk4pb4l The white ones were brought as slaves from Europe.The Barbary slave trade
If you said it was the name of the keyboard layout used in French Guiana I would have believed you.... QWERTY, QWERTZ, AZERTY, ÁZÄWAD looks legit.
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the tuareg: being discriminated because of lighter skin.
The rest of the world: A surprise for sure but a unwelcome one
look upon rwandan genocide and persecution of albinoes.
The Tuaregs are not discriminated for being "lighter skinned". That's a very Eurocentric projection/sentiment. There are Tuaregs with dark and light completions and entire clans made up of exclusively darker skin people. Due to decades of western colonialism and socialization, colorism actually favors people with lighter skin complexion all over much of Africa. However, the Tuaregs do face some marginalization largely due to their minority status and nomadic lifestyle, however not for being "light skin" as you put it
There are so many misinformation in this video.
Good coverage, but I recommend you work on your pronunciation of the names of groups, languages, etc. It shows more respect to ensure the pronunciation is accurate.
The Fulani are not in Eritrea.....on the other side of the continent lol
@3:36
They form only 4 percent of Mali.thats a very small number to form a republic.arab gulf countries are responsible for such acts
if the Nigerians could contain Boko haram and prevent the creation of an Islamic state in North-eastern Nigeria then we have every reason to believe that Mali will prevail and overcome the tuaregs
Think the audio in this video was a bit quiet
it was called the song hi empire.
@TLDRNewsGlobal from my understanding you should really call pre/non-arab North African people Amazigh. It's the name they prefer as Berber was given to them by outsiders who saw them as different and therefore barbarians.
@Katherine Scoot While Amazigh may be a more suitable name, in colloquial English, Berber is better recognized by sources such as Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica. TLDR using the name Amazigh could create unnecessary confusion, especially given TLDR's goal of making news simple.
@@been. I feel that's a bit of a cop out justification, I can understand why you've said that though. To me, it would have taken very little effort to say something in the video like "the Amazigh people, also more commonly incorrectly known as Berbers". This would have been more accurate and given more agency to the people being discussed. It could have also made some people interested in finding out why these different names are used and to learn about the history of oppression.
Ok so from my understanding Azawad (cool name btw) should be independent. They have been historically oppressed and the Mali government doesn’t seem to take care of them.
I’m not sure if they are still nomadic but if they do I hope they stay that way if Asaward becomes independent. I would love to see what a government would look like for nomads.
I think the french should step in to help Asaward. They caused this mess and they should at least attempt to help fix it.
Have you been spleeping for the past 8 years ? France tried to help against djihadist by sending troops and only gets hate and accusation of neocolonialism in return. The best course of action for France is to stay out of this.
Well you have a terrible understanding. The tuareg have been the ones who historically oppress other groups via slavery. There won't be an Azawad because most people in that region do not have any loyalty towards a fake nation like Azawad. The French are the reason why west Africa is struggling so much in the first place, so bringing them in will be a nightmare of violence and repression.
Africa is such a chaotic continent. Thank you for bringing some insight into what's going on there, as Africa really doesn't get much media coverage.
Africa isn’t chaotic , Europe is no different aren’t Ukraine and Russia fighting ? Let’s not forget the global wars Europe forced the world to join in
@@Katkayz there's a lot more than 1 conflict in Africa though, they're currently in high tensions so if any new countries are made in Africa it'll basically be a continental wide fracture
@@ilovecakecanihaveapiece mention which African countries are at war , also isn’t the Middle East very volatile? And asia in general ? And you are telling me Europe is Always peaceful . Didn’t the British and the French have a 100 year war?
@@Katkayz Ethiopia is in a civil war, Morocco has border arguments, Somalia is also having to deal with separatists, and Libya has been in a civil war for a long time, C.A.R. has too, Senegal, the Gambia, Nigeria, and Cameroon also have either threatened annexation of a portion of the other country or aided a rebel group in the other country.
@@Katkayz I never said that Europe was always peaceful, I'm saying that at this moment, Africa has a ton of wars, meanwhile every other continent has at most 2, and even that is a stretch since most only have 1 as well
I suggest TLDR News Global would make a video about the Pamaris in Tajikistan. They are the minority in the country, and heavily oppressed by the central government in Dushanbe.
are the pamiris the non-east asiansÉ
Maybe it's a good idea to read your script before filming.
An uprising in 2017 ended with a peace deal in 2009 and a Central African group of people living in Mali, Eritrea and Darfur???
You make incredible videos about a wide variety of topics but pumping out more is not always better. Take time to check and be correct even if it cuts the quantity of videos.
I support every nation needs independence such as somaliland iam in somaliland we welcoming azawad independence
This isn't Somaliland's position within Africa. The African union is notorious for being against new countries seceding and changing colonial borders. Somaliland is however unique since it's an old country regaining it's sovereignty.
So (as a Djiboutian) I would say get your recognition first then support whoever you like. 👍
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Mistake at 5:00. 2017 instead of perhaps 2007?
Is the conflict map based on where the conflict is or which countries are fighting. I ask because the US and Canada don't have any foreign conflict on their soil. Am I right to assume that their number is based on conflict on foreign soil?
"South america is surprisingly peaceful at the moment"
Not surprising when most of the population is centered around the coastline and the interior is uninhabitable due to extreme geography.
Weren't the borders in Africa made with instability in mind? The fear of the former colonial countries that Africa will be powerful and therefore unable to exploit.
Yes, but the only ones that can change it(the African elites) benefit from the current system even more than the West and east Asia. So they want it to stay.
Well yeah these are colonial boarders, not really meant to be national boarders but for UK and France to redraw the lines they'd have had to remove all the current local leaders and reshuffle them as one, basically meaning uk and france would have ended up declaring war on 80% of Africa.
@@jimpickins7900 tbh they'd probably still win
@@003mohamud probably not with the USSR and USA as the new superpowers. Both very anti colonial. Like the suez crisis. any honestly it would just be too much cost in money and manpower, especially for the end goal of losing both empires in one go.
a. “Berber” is a derogatory term created by Europeans
b. The French military did not leave Mali of their own choosing, they were kicked out of the country by the Malian government; Macron said they were withdrawing to try and save face.
So weird, I just wrote an essay about this
The Fulani are mostly inhabitants of west Africa and mostly Nigeria.
It made me wonder why I didn't hear Nigeria
Just a little fraction are in Nigeria also. They are mainly in Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger.
lying about the tuaregs smh
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