Kingdom Come Deliverance: From the Ashes | Should you build the Armor Shop or Swordsmith?
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2018
- In this #kingdomcomedeliverance video, i go through the pros and cons of both the armor shop and the weapon smith for the forge building in the from the ashes dlc in Pribyslavitz. This guide contains expenses and revenue reports and will hopefully help you choose which upgrade to go with. #WarhorseStudios #KCD
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I like videos like this, because I’m trying to figure out which building options are best. Thanks for doing the legwork for us!
Awesome, im glad they are useful to you.
I wish you could build a bathhouse, but noooooo you have to go to talmberg to use one
or sasau
or close to rattay
Didnt even know talmberg had a bathhouse🤔
@@hunter200delta yea but the closest one from prybislavits is talmberg
I hate not having a bath house there, just stuck in your sweat and farts.
I always pick armoursmith as the majority of the loot I sell is armour.
Yep. I've walked from Skalitz carrying 20k in armor multiple times. The trader will buy weapons, too. He has more money than you can sell the weapons for so Armorer is the way to go.
The best one is the black market dealer of Talmberg (Innkeeper)
,I think they should have added a few more unique items for each shop; like a special shortsword and bludgeon to go with the swordsmith, and a special cuirass or brigandine for the armorsmith.
I agree, i think they should have added several unique new armor pieces and weapons that would go with the town.
i chose the armorer for two reasons 1. i use a warhammer (ravens beak) so tusk (the exclusive sword) isn’t necessary, 2. i wanted the shield since i believed that henry deserved to have his own sigil (as opposed to the symbol of rattay, talmberg, or any other sigil)
Yeah, i can see both point of views. I like going with the swordsmith, because it feels like Henry is carrying on his fathers' legacy that way.
You can get the same shield from the guardhouse (or a boar shield anyway). I only just discovered this today, but its hanging up on a far wall
@Juho Mäkinen It still looks cool and does the job well enough
you can take one from guardhouse.
plus shield is a negative in this game. they nerf the masterstrike/counters. too many non-lethal counters.
i use all kinds of weapons. favorites are mace without shield.
what triggers me is that you cant have both when pretty much every other village does
Yeah, im not big on that either.
Mehrunes Vlahdia
I Need, need, need a tailor and a bath house!!!
And Zach isn’t the best armor smith. Ota is much better in repairing stuff and can help when Zach has already given up.
@@Celisar1 Zach gives you more money. And there are other options for repairing.
Mr. House
Yes, Zach gives you more money but when some armor is really severely damaged only Ota can repair. Maybe the armorer in Rattay could fix it as well, but I have played on Hardcore and it is a looong way from Prybislawitz to Rattay if you cannot fasttravel.
@@Celisar1 how much money does it give you you im thinking about it
1 million groschen Jesus Christ be praised.
Stealing is the key :D
It really is.
Dare To Game What do you steal?? A whole kingdom? For real though, I would be fine with even 10% of that
kPEACEBRINGER
Really?!? I thought fighting bandits gives the most money.
@@Celisar1 yeah if you fight bandits with good armor its the best way to get money just take it all
As somebody who built a sword shop, BUILD AN ARMOR SHOP
don't know what the original poster's reasons were but, speaking for myself, there are a couple of reasons I prefer the armorsmith:
1. the unique item you get - Boarback shield vs. Tusk - is much more useful. Tusk is the only agiliy-based 2h sword in the game and you only need 1 agility so it's a good sword that you can pickup and use right away. But I've found that by this point in the game, I had sufficient strength to use the better, higher damage, strength-based longswords so having Tusk wasn't an upgrade. By comparison, the Boarback is literally the best shield in the game with the highest Defense rating and Durability (i think) while being lower weight than any of the Bouche shields. If you're not a shield guy then this isn't a big deal but it won't be long before Tusk is sitting, unused, in your inventory.
2. the armorsmith is better for making money, imo. just based on what you see in the town ledger, the two business provide the exact same income and I don't think there's a significant difference in the craftsmen you can recruit from Sassau. Whether you take Swordsmith Fink, Armorsmith Ota or Armorsmith Zach, you get about the same amount of added income. But if you like to fight, clear out bandit camps and stop for ambushes, you'll find yourself with more armor to sell than weapons. An enemy will have one weapon to sell (maybe two if he's a bowman) but, at higher levels, each enemy may have 3-5 armor pieces worth selling even if they're damaged. Armorsmith Zach never seemed to have much money for trade in Sassau, but in Pribyslavitz, his available wealth can rise to match the armorsmith in Rattay and Master Ota in Sassau so you now have 3 places to sell armor pieces
@@oldcdog91 Plus you can still get the tusk if you build the Guard house you just have to steal it.
i built the sword shop and i dont wanna back track. but ya. go armor
@@Oswald_Thatendswald where can i steal tusk sword in Guard house?
@@sir.pablonobleman525 i dont exactly remember where it was but i know you can find it in the guard house you build for the town pribislavitz . You have to steal if you dont wanna buy it. Its probably hanging on the wall or laying on a table.
*I will put this plainly from my experience.*
*.Swordsmith:* not a good use of your time and money because the big boi groschen are found on high level armor worn by bandits, cumans and guards, not to mention armor is much heavier and more numerous, when compared to the weapons that enemies wield. In essence, at most, an enemy will have 3 weapons and maybe a shield, and that's being incredibly generous, however, they may have up to 14 pieces of armor and clothing, and granted you don't always take everything they have, but think about this: Spurs, Helmets, Body Plates, Head Chainmail, Leg Armor, Arm Armour, Gauntlets, etc. These are heavy and very very expensive, even if broken, so you can sell them for a lot. Not to mention, you can actually repair almost completely broken swords and axes by yourself at a fucking grinding wheel, whereas if you have a helmet that needs fixing, you're screwed.
*.Armoursmith:* see above, but there is a catch, who should you hire? Ota or Zach?
-Zach: this man is useless in Sasau, since both Ota and Fink have more to be bought than him. When taking him into Pribyslavitz, his wares and money expands exponentially. However, he is not capable of repairing some armors that are too damaged. Also, he produces more revenue for the town, a whopping +70 compared to the +10 of Ota.
-Ota: this man is useful in Sasau, though if you take him to your town, he can repair all armor. But he is a lazy bastard and can't even put out more than 10 virgin groschen when compared to the chad +70 of Zach, the Wack.
So what should you do? Do whatever you want, I won't judge, but my oppinion is on building an Armoursmith building and hiring Zach, even though he is an asshole, but hey at least you don't really upset the balance of how you do business in other cities, and only profit from it without even doing anything illegal.
BTW, during the quest *Rattled*, just go talk to Zach, and then speak with Ota about the duel, WITHOUT going over to his side, then inform the Bailiff, and finally win the freaking thing.
You will not lose any reputation with anyone (Ota ain't a sore loser) and you will have a brand new armorsmith in town. Don't be an crimey boi and go steal the bailiff's armor because Ota is bugged and WILL know it was you (my headcannon: he can smell your guilt).
PS: regardless of who you hire, they will take maybe a day or two to arrive and set up shop in town, so just be patient. :)
PPS: yet another reason for building an armorsmith instead of a swordsmith is that the diference between hiring Fink and hiring Zach, is that Fink's quest to reforge Queen Sheba's sword is long as hell, whereas Zach is "just go there and fight dude, and you can even fast travel to get there and back in less than 30 seconds". You do the math. Imma head out. >_>
Thats a lot of words
I loved your speech man
I chose Armoursmith so I can sell my looted armour from bandits/cumin there. The swords/weapons/misc goes to Kornelius in the trader's shop. I don't use shields, just the St George's longsword.
How does the special sword in this video compare to St George and St Michael?
@@Joe_Friday It is about the same as St. Michaels, worse than St Georges(best offensive) and Madgeberg(best defensive). So like tied for third best unless you are doing some weird AGI only build then the requirement is meaningless.
Hey Look. Henry's come to visit us.
(Draws sword)
Its SIR Henry Kobyla
It sorta make more sense for to have a swordsmith because of Henry's background. Great video btw, currently playing the DLC for the first time.
thanks for your vids man :)
Glad you like them!
Decent vids. Good work fellow gamer!
Thank you, glad you enjoy them.
Nice video, I have the armorsmith and I'm ashamed to say I never noticed the shield :p In my defense I don't use them but still ...
I would add details tough on top of what you already said :
1-You can hire one of the 2 armorsmiths from sassau for your shop when you build the armor shop obviously :p can't remember how much money to adds to revenue but I would suppose around the same than the weaponsmith ?
2-To get any of the special merchants there is a prerequisite quest to achieve first, one for the weaponsmith and another for the armorsmiths.
3-If you want stables armorsmith gives added revenue, if you want the guard it's the weaponsmith that gives the bonus
4-When looting a bandit you get 1 weapon and 3 to 6 pieces of armor, so overall it's best to have one more armorsmith in the game to be able to sell all your loot rather than a weaponsmith. It's even more true when you remember that weaponsmiths don't buy bows so if you looted an archer you'll still get armor but no weapons to sell.
Oh also the sword is nice for a mid level character but there is at least one way better one (if not two I'm not sure) that can be used for high level characters (high stats requirements) so the sword is not that great long term, just a nice boost if you build the town when your character is still not high stats.
Good tips, for me it came down to the tusk, since it was added to the game its been my favorite longsword. It swings faster than other longswords because it based of agility like short swords, not strength like other long swords.
@@Dare_To_Game How does Tusk compare to Herod, St George and St Michael?
I chose the armour Smith because I only use longswords and you can repair those yourself for the most part. Seemed most efficient for the long-term
With the armoursmith, there is a fun quest if you go to sasau to get either ota or zach, and they keep feuding and they have a duel and whichever one you help for the duel you can take to pribyslavitz
The Weaponsmith is kinda dissapointing tbh. But thank you for the video. I didnt build a Amortsmith yet, good to know.
Yeah, i was hoping for there to be more variety, especially for different smiths that you recruit, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
well i was gonna say Armor because selling armor along would be more profitable. but that Tusk sword is awfully tempting. But so is the new shield. got alot to consider.
RIght, i did armor on my first play through, but the two since then have both been sword.
If you get the sword smith and the barracks you can get tusk and the boar shield because the barracks has a copy of the shield, however you have to steal the shield that way
I actually didn't know there was a special shield at the armorsmith. Will check it out when I open my latest playthrough.
You forget to tell that if you recruit Zach from Sasau you can earn 70 groshen more.
I made Swordsmith because i thought you could build both of them and now im there with swordsmith ._.
i think it would be nicer if you could decide between more money and new items + unique buildings for the village
The Boarback shield can also be aquired via the dlc "band of bastards". It can be found hanging on the backside of Kunos tent.
I hate that we have to pick this or that when building up the town... It's not like we don't have the land around the town for all 6 buildings. I wish someone would mod this, I think this was a BAD Dev call.
This was helpful, because I had no idea I could recruit Fink. Gotta go do that, mo munny fo meh
Right, he's my number one choice for the blacksmith.
lol
You can get the boar shield from kunos camp in the band of bastards dlc. On the back of the main shelter
I choose Armor because they can be new place to sell cuman armor so I don't have to travel south to Sasau or Ratay
Thats certainly a good point. WHen i do looting runs, i definitely get more from armor than weapons.
@@Dare_To_Game I know right. I was doing the Cuman Camp Clearing mission then I realize that there is not a single Armor Smith in the north-east side of the map.
Yeah, just Sassau and Rattay.
I think you can still sell armour to a swordsmith but I could be wrong
You have Swordsmaster Fink. Is the armor master one of the other smiths in Sasau? And it the pay the same as Fink gives 60G?
The pay bonus is comparable. If you choose the armorsmith you can recruit either zach or master otta, whoever you sided with in the quest.
I found the Boarbach shield hanging on the big tent at Kunos camp right after finishing band of bastards
You can also pick up the tusk shield at kunos encampment
I’m pissed I got a sword smith without realising
The unique boar Shields can ne aqiered in the guard house in the building with weapon storage
Is there a reason to choose a particular smith for the armory or sword shop? Are there perks associated with each smithy?
You can also get the boars head shield when you play the side quest Robber Baron. Sir Wolflin of Kamberg has the shield as part of his gear which you can pick up after he loses the battle with Sir Hanush’s soldiers - if fighting Sir Wolflin is the decision you make in the quest.
That does sound familiar, but its been a while since i played that quest, good to know.
Sorry but how can I start this quest?
Alberto Sussetto You have to finish the Next to Godliness side quest with Sir Hans and then there’ll be a chance later to talk with Sir Hans again which will have both Sir Hans and Henry going off to Upper Rattay to speak with Sir Hanush who’ll initiate the Robber Baron quest for Henry.
Ok thank you for your help
Armorsmith is better.
You can buy armor, repair your armor, sell looted armor from bandits.
Swordsmith can only sell, buy, and repair swords. And I dont need Tusk if I have St. George's sword.
i did this mask quest but he is not giving me adams quest help!?
But do you still get the bonus coin if you get the blacksmith and have the guardhouse? I’m getting the guardhouse and I want the bonus coin.
This doesn’t make sense some how I already have the boarback shield from a corpse in the standard game.
Their is one that is just called the "heavy shield" that looks exactly the same. Stats are different though.
Does the shield change with which armoursmith from sasau you hire?
I sware iv seen that shield in the game before the dlc
Yes, the boar back shield is just an updated version of the heavy shield with the same pattern. The stats are better, but it looks the same.
I don't have the option to build either one, can someone help me?
you forgot about the Sinew bow
What's the difference between the armorsmith's Boarback Shield and the unnamed shield that you can loot from the guardhouse? Afaik they look the same but the guardhouse version has lower defense stats?
exactly
Is the tusk affected by the fast striker perk?
yeah
Anyone seeing this now there is a Heavy shield identical to the boarback hanging on kunos tent
58 is ok but you get St. George's sword for free if you know where to find it and it has much better overall stats... lower durability, which is not a huge issue (70's) and Charisma is only 18 but stab/slash in 72.
Did you want more people? in the new DLC?
i did....yes, i was hoping for a massive influx.
wheres the best armour smith in KCD, I know the one in Rattay but any more?
Zach or ota both in Sasau.
Zach generates more revenue but cant repair stuff if it's too damaged.
Master Ota only generates 10 revenue when Zach generates 70.
I like zach because Sasau really isnt that far plus im in sasau all the time.
Anyone know where i can find Hanikan Hare? I want to give him a job
impossible
In my playthrough i killed him. But i guess if you do that mission differently, then it chouldn't be too hard to find him. Either at the talmberg huntsman's or in the clearing behind it where he can be found during the mission.
i dont think there's a dialogue option for him
did you find him post mission? where?
never found him i killed him, while he was running away, but if there was a recruit option it wouldve been already known
How can I bring master ota or zach to pribyslavitz?
You have to have completed the mission between the two of them, after that you will be able to hire one of them, depending which outcome you go with.
Thank you for your help
No problem, its why im here.
I go armor Smith every time just because I always have a lot of armor to sell, i get more money that way
Build the armousmiths, the items are worth more so go in at night steal it all and then sell it back to him in the future.
tusk this longsword based on agility wtf.. so the fast attak perk give him 30% faster attak speed ?
question was the game patched cause i sold 200 worth of stuff too the millers and it was only worth 500 groschen am i doing something wrong
You have to build up reputation with any merchant. The higher your rep, the more money you will get for what you sell, however, you will never get the full value for anything. That wouldn't be a good business model.
Dare To Game ooh ok now I get it I was playing for a few hours now my rep with each merchant in in rattay is 78 should I get it higher
Luis zarate
Do you haggle enough? With time you learn how far you can go with haggling and different merchants and craftsmen react differently. The shoemaker in Rattay for instance is a hard nut to crack and often breaks off the haggling.
@@Celisar1 i beat the game already but i never used the haggling feature i would just sell all my stuff and i think my game was glitch cause i sold 1k potions and the potion guy still has 2000 instead of 40k
@@Celisar1 That's why you get final offer and then lower it just a little from his lowest price
The Executioner's sword and Queen of Sheba's sword are significantly better longswords than Tusk stats wise
How does Tusk stack up against Saint George' sword
Pretty well, the St. George's sword is an overall better weapon, with higher damage, but i think they have just about the same durability, the Tusk only requires a level 1 agility to use, making it a weapon that can be used at any point in the game. The tusk is also worth more than the St. George's sword, in Groschen that is. I have a video comparing many of the longswords for this game if you are interested. ruclips.net/video/tvLRGdmFS04/видео.html
Determine8R Gaming I'll definitely check that out. Thanks for the reply man! I really appreciate you taking the time to address your comments, not a lot of content creators do that. Imma go ahead and subscribe, cheers!
Awesome, glad to have you aboard. I always try to respond to every comment i get, so long as it isn't too confusing or too rude.
Dare To Game
How could anybody have any use for a sword (Tusk) that you could use early on in the game while you have to be very achieved and high level to rebuild Pribyslavitz to get it? Doesn’t make any sense.
Everyone talking about armor being big boy money. Yall do understand that the reward from this dlc is free money lol.
St. george sword to whomever builds the swordsmith: Am I a joke to you?
accurate.
Tosco
What do you mean?
@@Celisar1 St. george is the best sword and the only most people probably only ever use
Tosco
Indeed, but for the moment I am trying my hands at war hammers and axes bc. swords are just not very effective against armored enemies.
i use mace sometimes but it only has 3 perks compared to like 5 combos of the longsword.
so i use swords.
I don't see no grind wheel at the armor shop, a bit f a disappointment that upgrading a shop to armor the would throw out a perfectly good grindstone... Odd because it's there for me. Must have been patched in seeing how old this video is =D Good thing i was sort of scared i'd have to ride to the nearest town to sharpen my blade =D
Hello is this DLC worth buying honestly?
Blitzk If you like building your own town and managing finances then yeeeees
Gaunter O'Dimm A lot of ppl complain this dlc's not worth for 10 bucks.. But i can get this dlc for 4.99 from my friend.. 5 bucks definitely worth it imo.. thx btw :)
yes its fun
I think it is, but it really depends how much you like the game. If you are a huge fan of KCD and itching for more, then it is a good buy, but if you feel pretty casual about the game, it might make more sense to wait for a complete edition.
For the Armorsmith get zach, you get 70 extra for that so Armorsmith is more profitable in my opinion :D
I personally prefer shortsword and shield over longsword, so the swordsmith is a better choice for me
Yeah, i am personally a mace man, but if i go with a sword its usually an arming sword and shield combo.
@@Dare_To_Game I love maces when I'm fighting armoured enemies, particularly the baliff's mace, but when I'm going up against normally clothed individuals I always use my trusty St George's longsword or a shortsword and shield.
@@christianmcbrearty yeah i keep a bailiffs mace and shield, nobles sword and shield (i dont really like stinger), and st. George's sword
I start this dlc when i had 27k xD
Yeah, certainly makes it easier.
I had 41K
Lol I have 243 k and I kept 90k for this clusterfck off a dlc I want horse armor and that sexy black horse but I have too give up a badass bow archeryrange and training feild I'll always choose Baker it easier and I don't have too waste the meat I hunt and dry it lol armor is better then a sword I'll never use the sheild looks bad ass to me the hardest choice is gaurd House and stable
I love the game and it's makers but the fact you can't make all or expand the city is bull crap
I finished the dlc and was kinda disappointed with that you can't build all of the buildings, when you have all the other places have that.
SO THE SWORDSMITH IS THE BEST CHOICE.
wish i could change it wtf
Biggest reason I chose swordsmith? Forge... the armorsmith loses its actual smithy... wtf is that?
idk, does it even matter? :D its pretty much end game dlc and once you finish church you basically cant interact with village in any unusual way...
Is that a DLC
yes it is.
yes it is.
yes it is.
@@Dare_To_Game yes it is.
Socracle
really?? :p
As who tried both, just keep it as a blacksmith that way it will be most beneficial for you when you have to repair weapons and armour, especially around the end game, Pribyslavitz is way closer to Talmberg. And most often than not you'll need reparing cuz you'll be getting on and off fights. And you just can't repair everything with a repair kit, unless you're an absolute Chad who mastered maintenance skill to level 20. So the moral of the story is just leave it as a blacksmith
How in the fuck do you get one million?!? I only have 14k and I feel rich..... now I feel like a beggar
Gotta get that loot.
money is so easy to get.. all the bandits walk around with ~5k armour plus you can just steal the traders money supply
Kinda a lazy dlc. There should've been far more customization.