I agree, i think there should have been more choices and more potentially serious consequences for bad choices. Like, for example, if you go into this dlc with a couple million groschen, you should have no problem building a town twice this size, with a full protective wall and battlements and everything, bath house, mill, jail, you name it.
I also think there should have been way more disputes for you to solve. Being a judge was my favorite part, and I was disappointed that the scenarios ended immediately after I got the thumbs up from Sir Divish when I met the goal requirements. And yeah, we definitely need a bathhouse as well. Hell, why stop there? If you build enough military buildings and train enough guards, you should be able to lead them in raids on bandit and cuman camps. Maybe even take part in a major battle with the Cumans, leading your town garrison alongside Sir Radzig's and Sir Hanush's armies.
It should be noted that items dried with the baker including meats and fish, have infinite durability, where as things smoked with the butcher only last 5 days.
Thank you. That decides it for me. Infinite durability is my primary criteria. I prefer to keep a stock of food that won't spoil, one less thing to bother about. Henry has the Human Dustbin perk but there is Mutt to consider. Feeding the dog anything less than 50 durability decreases his obedience level. If smoked meat had infinite durability, I would go with the butcher. Poaching is illegal, but Pribyslavitz is remote. I would like my townies to have a reliable source of chow should the crops ever fail. Poached meat is less conspicuous when you have a legitimate butcher shop. But there is another advantage to the Bakery. Dried produce gives nutritional variety. I've never heard of smoked produce. Dried produce provides a balanced diet during Winter. Are fish considered poaching? Hope not as it is a healthier source of protein than red meat.
With the bakery there's a baker who will walk into town who formerly worked with the bandits who lived there before, if you agree he can live there and keep his past secret he can run the bakery, but a follow up bailiff quest will reveal he may be skimming flour off people which you'll have to figure out
Figure out? As far as I remember, in that judging activity the townplaner guy (forgot his name) simply says he proved that the baker wasn't cheating the people at all.
I know this is late, but for the new people that are checking the comments: There is nothing wrong with the flour nor did the Baker put anything in the bread. What actually happened is that the Baker rigged the scale, that's why he is insisting that him weighting the bread is proof enough and it explains why he silently swears when you choose to bring municipal scales.
@@martvinegar3431 exactly, when I played I had the scale put in the Rauthouse so it'd be fair and untampered and the baker gets very upset at this outcome
I build the bakery and didn't even realize you couldn't build the butchery afterwards.... I think I made the wrong choice. But the tougher call is between the sword and armor and the Stable and Guardhouse.
The drying shed is actually inside the bakery on the first room to the left, NOT the weird things outside. Not sure about the butcher's smoke house but I would assume it would be in the same place.
I went for thr bakery, because it makes more.money. took the armorsmith because you can get the best shield in the game from it, and the stables instead of the guardhouse because the Pribyslavitz stables have the best horses in the game.
When counting the revenue of the butcher, did you also take into account the fact you need to import livestock - just for this one building? Wheat for the baker is necessary for other buildings as well, so it is moot to argue about that, but only butcher needs livestock.
Helpful video ! I have a question, what does the number of citizens in the village changes? Is it better to have more? I can't seem to find any indication about it
@@Jmaestro-sm4pp I’m the same but I guess they do it this way to increase replayability since you can chose different paths and have different options each way you go. (The different recruitable NPC’s for example)
Im not upset that the town is limited to the few buildings we get, i understand that we cant be a rival to rattay or anything lore wise, but i AM upset that there isnt more to it. If i get a baker and beehive and produce a luxury item from the union (honeycakes) i should then be able to go to another town and set up a trade for some of the basic goods that come from the butcher. Maybe it does nothing in reality, or it adds a shed of meat next to the tavern that you see someone deliver into or take from and raise your reputation with the town, add a few meat items to your shop. Thats just one building. They could all have had something you get from them that you use to either trade for resource or just give as gifts like the town hit with plague needs some lumber because they used all theirs building coffins so we can either sell them some for an extra bit of daily groschen or just give it to them to lessen reputation with our guys and increase it everywhere else. Idk the ideas are there.
no, but i recommend you get the livestock as cheap as possible anyway because then youll get 30 extra grosschen per day if bought the livestock cheapest (you get that from the beast of burdens from the woodcutterscamp) .
@@November_Terra that is correct, you get -30 per day for the animals. BUT you get +60 from the woodcutters because they can use the oxen to haul the lumber. So having the cheaper cattle regardless of your choice (Bakery or Butcher) results in a net profit.
I saw in a video where someone added a drying rack at the bakery and gave them meat and turned it into dried boar and roe, and dried fruit. I don’t understand why my bakery can’t do this. Is it a bug on my end or a mechanic I don’t understand?
You should be able to upgrade if you have the money and the resources to build it it should be under upgrades. 9 months late but I hope it helps I went with the bakery because I was sick of my food going off
I'm team butcher because you can't hunt loaves of bread in the forests all over the map. Don't understand the quibbling about incremental benefits of drying vs smoking because Henry is so easy to feed!!
@ Diran Bodossian: Hi Diran. You CAN hunt loaves of bread in the forests, but they’re very hard to kill (because a loaf has no vital organs, so ordinary arrows just pass right through them without killing them). 👎☹️ I wasted a lot of time trying to shoot them this way, until I came up with the idea of using FIRE arrows. 🍞🔥 🤔💡 Once you shoot them with fire arrows… they’re toast. 😉👍
Yeah, from what i can tell the bakery is better, unless there is a butcher you can recruit, maybe the one in Sassau after you do the "Fat Profits" quest for him.
One of the guides I saw mentioned this: You can get them in three different locations. The butcher from Sasau wants 50 gold. The butcher from Ledetchko wants 30 gold but this won't be a high-quality meat. The butcher from Rattay won't sell you any meat because of his hostility towards the refugees. You can convince him by using Persuasion (9 points or more). If you succeed, you will have to pay him 70 gold per delivery.
@@jwkoelker I know all that, I played dozens of times, for almost 1500 hours. But I never build the butcher shop in Pribyslawitz, that's why I was asking. Or maybe it even makes a difference for the bonus you get? I guess not but I've never seen information on that and I always get the cheapest livestock, so I can't be sure.
Aye, but its illegal.. also, if you play the jugde where you stand on the stage on a tree, there will be news that our people started poaching and have to make decision either you ban it or turn a blind eye
Bertil Borup You are a little over aggressive, though. Do you expect anyone to try to help you with such a stinking attitude? I do see your point, though. Which is more profitable is what I wanted to know more than anything.
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In my opinion you should have the option to clear more land so you can build all of the buildings instead of having to choose
I agree, i think there should have been more choices and more potentially serious consequences for bad choices. Like, for example, if you go into this dlc with a couple million groschen, you should have no problem building a town twice this size, with a full protective wall and battlements and everything, bath house, mill, jail, you name it.
I also think there should have been way more disputes for you to solve. Being a judge was my favorite part, and I was disappointed that the scenarios ended immediately after I got the thumbs up from Sir Divish when I met the goal requirements. And yeah, we definitely need a bathhouse as well. Hell, why stop there? If you build enough military buildings and train enough guards, you should be able to lead them in raids on bandit and cuman camps. Maybe even take part in a major battle with the Cumans, leading your town garrison alongside Sir Radzig's and Sir Hanush's armies.
I agree, that sort of interconnectivity makes things like that so fun.
Same opinion
@@smashmouth3890 The only reason I can say that doesn't work is hes a ballif not a Lord Everything he has already belongs to another Lord
It should be noted that items dried with the baker including meats and fish, have infinite durability, where as things smoked with the butcher only last 5 days.
Yeah, that is a huge part of the decision. I far prefer the baker to the butcher.
Yes but as counter balace,to not spoiling dry food dcrease your energy and lepiots loos one of 2 nourishment point when it was dry
And the thing is, that way you can sell more of your hunted meat cause it never goes bad
With the human dustbin perk eating rotted food is not a problem at all.
Thank you. That decides it for me. Infinite durability is my primary criteria. I prefer to keep a stock of food that won't spoil, one less thing to bother about. Henry has the Human Dustbin perk but there is Mutt to consider. Feeding the dog anything less than 50 durability decreases his obedience level. If smoked meat had infinite durability, I would go with the butcher. Poaching is illegal, but Pribyslavitz is remote. I would like my townies to have a reliable source of chow should the crops ever fail. Poached meat is less conspicuous when you have a legitimate butcher shop. But there is another advantage to the Bakery. Dried produce gives nutritional variety. I've never heard of smoked produce. Dried produce provides a balanced diet during Winter. Are fish considered poaching? Hope not as it is a healthier source of protein than red meat.
With the bakery there's a baker who will walk into town who formerly worked with the bandits who lived there before, if you agree he can live there and keep his past secret he can run the bakery, but a follow up bailiff quest will reveal he may be skimming flour off people which you'll have to figure out
Figure out?
As far as I remember, in that judging activity the townplaner guy (forgot his name) simply says he proved that the baker wasn't cheating the people at all.
I know this is late, but for the new people that are checking the comments: There is nothing wrong with the flour nor did the Baker put anything in the bread. What actually happened is that the Baker rigged the scale, that's why he is insisting that him weighting the bread is proof enough and it explains why he silently swears when you choose to bring municipal scales.
@@martvinegar3431 exactly, when I played I had the scale put in the Rauthouse so it'd be fair and untampered and the baker gets very upset at this outcome
I build the bakery and didn't even realize you couldn't build the butchery afterwards.... I think I made the wrong choice. But the tougher call is between the sword and armor and the Stable and Guardhouse.
I've done both, and i prefer the Bakery, but that decision is the least important of the three.
@@Dare_To_Game The baker takes advantage of the honey can is freely produced locally. The butcher does not and relies on stocks from somewhere else.
@@namelessonewanderland3428 I like selling meat to the butcher as I can make 3k in a few minutes
My choice is the Guardhouse for the Sinew bow upgrade. I don't need to swap my horse and the tack is not as beneficial as the bow.
The Baker gives you 5 more groschen, Is neater, and has a drying shed which is more useful than the smoking shed because food lasts longer that way
Yeah but carbs are for ninnies
Drying room is inside main building not where was shown. Good video.
Thanks, i was having trouble finding it.
The drying shed is actually inside the bakery on the first room to the left, NOT the weird things outside. Not sure about the butcher's smoke house but I would assume it would be in the same place.
Weird things outside are ovens
I went for thr bakery, because it makes more.money. took the armorsmith because you can get the best shield in the game from it, and the stables instead of the guardhouse because the Pribyslavitz stables have the best horses in the game.
On xbox and I got the achievement of maxing out the income of this village so I think I'm good with all of my choices, here I chose the bakery.
I can't see why you can't have both honestly. I get that you can't have everything, but bakery and butcher both seem pretty basic to me
I think I'm going to build the baker just because it's a not neater aesthetically and I like the pseudo guard tower at the village entrance.
When counting the revenue of the butcher, did you also take into account the fact you need to import livestock - just for this one building? Wheat for the baker is necessary for other buildings as well, so it is moot to argue about that, but only butcher needs livestock.
technically the woodcutter camp uses them as beasts of burden too, but yeah, bakery is better.
@@SolusDarkcoat what about selling boar or Deer
meat to the butcher I make 3k in a few minutes
@@fatherjoe1134 You can also sell any food item to the tavern. You don't need a baker or a butcher to sell your game meat.
They have the exact same revenue since the beasts are used in the woodcutter.
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Helpful video ! I have a question, what does the number of citizens in the village changes? Is it better to have more? I can't seem to find any indication about it
i'm not sure if it does make a difference.
I think that 40 is a minimum requirement. So if you kill off your townsfolk, you get penalised on top of the usual penalties.
Such a short dlc ((
Yeah, i was hoping for more longevity out of this dlc, it has added a decent amount of stuff, but i would have preferred something five times as long.
It definitely feels like they left room to expand the town in the next game or future dlc
Yeah. I'm just disappointed that you can't build everything especially considering it's a paid dlc.
@@Jmaestro-sm4pp I’m the same but I guess they do it this way to increase replayability since you can chose different paths and have different options each way you go. (The different recruitable NPC’s for example)
Im not upset that the town is limited to the few buildings we get, i understand that we cant be a rival to rattay or anything lore wise, but i AM upset that there isnt more to it. If i get a baker and beehive and produce a luxury item from the union (honeycakes) i should then be able to go to another town and set up a trade for some of the basic goods that come from the butcher. Maybe it does nothing in reality, or it adds a shed of meat next to the tavern that you see someone deliver into or take from and raise your reputation with the town, add a few meat items to your shop. Thats just one building. They could all have had something you get from them that you use to either trade for resource or just give as gifts like the town hit with plague needs some lumber because they used all theirs building coffins so we can either sell them some for an extra bit of daily groschen or just give it to them to lessen reputation with our guys and increase it everywhere else. Idk the ideas are there.
If you choose the bakery, do you have to get the live stock supply? as far as i can see live stock is only required for the buthcer
no, but i recommend you get the livestock as cheap as possible anyway because then youll get 30 extra grosschen per day if bought the livestock cheapest (you get that from the beast of burdens from the woodcutterscamp)
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@@niekesselbrugge1132 Uhm.. i'm pretty sure you LOSE these 30 groschen per day (you literally pay for the livestock)
What's an ebast?
@@November_Terra thats correct, the lovestock cost money but the beasts of burden pays it back I believe with profit.
@@November_Terra that is correct, you get -30 per day for the animals. BUT you get +60 from the woodcutters because they can use the oxen to haul the lumber. So having the cheaper cattle regardless of your choice (Bakery or Butcher) results in a net profit.
What's the point of Butcher shop if poaching is illegal anyway.
I saw in a video where someone added a drying rack at the bakery and gave them meat and turned it into dried boar and roe, and dried fruit. I don’t understand why my bakery can’t do this. Is it a bug on my end or a mechanic I don’t understand?
You should be able to upgrade if you have the money and the resources to build it it should be under upgrades. 9 months late but I hope it helps I went with the bakery because I was sick of my food going off
Also, go inside the bakery and go to left, thats where the dry shed located. Then put any food you'd like to be dried off
The baker makes ever so slightly more money per day than the butcher. It makes 5 more per day, and it has a special merchant that you can get.
Those were not the drying stations... the drying stations are inside the house, first room on the left.
I'm team butcher because you can't hunt loaves of bread in the forests all over the map.
Don't understand the quibbling about incremental benefits of drying vs smoking because Henry is so easy to feed!!
@ Diran Bodossian: Hi Diran. You CAN hunt loaves of bread in the forests, but they’re very hard to kill (because a loaf has no vital organs, so ordinary arrows just pass right through them without killing them). 👎☹️ I wasted a lot of time trying to shoot them this way, until I came up with the idea of using FIRE arrows. 🍞🔥 🤔💡 Once you shoot them with fire arrows… they’re toast. 😉👍
@@the5thmusketeer215 That joke gave me heartburn...what a groaner....
@@the5thmusketeer215
I love you. Thanks for the laugh.
I just wanted some smoked meat, so i chose butcher.
So statswise its the bakery is more usefull right?
kPEACEBRINGER You could sell tons of meat to the butcher though.
Yeah, from what i can tell the bakery is better, unless there is a butcher you can recruit, maybe the one in Sassau after you do the "Fat Profits" quest for him.
Determine8R Gaming aren’t there 2 butchers in the village and you have to pick one?
Yeah, but neither one of them seems to boost the profits at all.
@@Tonius126 once ou have the tavern you sell your meat there and get better prices than selling to the butcher
I don’t like the butcher as meat removes energy
Thats a valid point.
Quaaludes G it does give more food tho
Meat gives mutt food though
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i didnt know you couldnt built both so i built a bakery and hired a baker...
Who had more money for trading the baker or butcher?
Does anyone know if the quality of livestock you get makes any difference for the butcher?
One of the guides I saw mentioned this: You can get them in three different locations. The butcher from Sasau wants 50 gold. The butcher from Ledetchko wants 30 gold but this won't be a high-quality meat. The butcher from Rattay won't sell you any meat because of his hostility towards the refugees. You can convince him by using Persuasion (9 points or more). If you succeed, you will have to pay him 70 gold per delivery.
@@jwkoelker
I know all that, I played dozens of times, for almost 1500 hours.
But I never build the butcher shop in Pribyslawitz, that's why I was asking.
Or maybe it even makes a difference for the bonus you get?
I guess not but I've never seen information on that and I always get the cheapest livestock, so I can't be sure.
I acually did bakery in my first playthough. IDK my thinking is well anyone can hunt for meat.
Aye, but its illegal.. also, if you play the jugde where you stand on the stage on a tree, there will be news that our people started poaching and have to make decision either you ban it or turn a blind eye
Ahhh Sounds like bakery is the better choices coz of Drying meat...No Spoiling of foods
(YAWN) I leed too lie down before i split my face open from yawning..😴😪
If i have failed the quest how can i start it again
you cant
butchery is best for hunters.
i feel quite hungry....
Haha, man I'm dead and also - I'm gay 👍🏻
Bla bla bla people always talk to much in these videos. Give me the important info and then shut it!!!
Anger issues.
@Stripey Arse you don't know the half, boy am I mad at this video!!!
Bertil Borup
You are a little over aggressive, though. Do you expect anyone to try to help you with such a stinking attitude? I do see your point, though. Which is more profitable is what I wanted to know more than anything.
Awww does poor widdle baby need his bahbah
Sir Reason
That was a bit unreasonable. Was there any reason to be nasty, Mr.......... Reason??