@@Gosbecol123 cant say much as I don’t look at much M2 dynos and they have the EWG N55 while I have the earlier PWG N55. I just dyno’d it last month and made 386whp but on my extremely conservative (intentional request to my tuner). I have to go re-dyno after the holiday craze though, as my HPFP died on me while on the dyno. This was with about 3.5* ign advance and 19.9psi ceiling. One on E-mix we’ll crank it up good and see how high we can push it.
I am too! Currently doing finishing touches on the custom “save tune” I asked my tuner to build for me on 91 octane. I will dyno this when it’s done. Then the fun begins with flexfuel tuning and we can really crank up the turbo
good job! that is a mission to take on, with this work on a stock tune? not that i wouldn't get a tune, but i would remove tune for a couple weeks during smog.
It will not work on stock tune unfortunately. Since the Wastegate works (in simple terms) the opposite as the stock wastegate (default position is closed, not open like stocker), the stock tune would cause it to overboost instantly. And that will come with all the trouble codes related lol
@@turbospool that’s what I thought. California reads for tune through OBD. I passed with Dinan stage 3 but idk about custom mhd map. Grrrrrr. Thanks. Appreciate the response.
@ Oh okay! Gotcha. Mines a 2012 535i RWD with stock turbo and wasn’t sure if it had the EWG or the PWG. Only mods I have are -MHD Stage 2 -VRS 7in Intercooler -Electronic exhaust cut outs -Burger Motorsports intake. My turbo started dumping oil into my exhaust and the bearings went bad. Want to upgrade to the same turbo you have, but it will require a new/bigger inlet and an oil pan gasket. Do you agree?
@@jbear1990 you also have a PWG then. EWGs didn't come out until I THINK mid-year 2014 when the LCIs started to roll out. So the Shuenk turbos come with their own proprietary turbo inlet pipe. You will need to have a custom tuner ready for when complete the install. You will need a high-flow catted downpipe OR a catless downpipe as well. Oil pan gasket isn't needed for a turbo install. But generally, you should take care of any active leaks prior throwing a larger turbo. Larger turbo= higher crankcase pressure= more oil will get pushed out the existing seals.
Awesome video! Makes me want to get a big turbo for mine... Was wondering, what brakes are those? Your front calipers look to be different. And also, where'd you get your wheel spacers from? Thanks!
Thanks dude! And those are off a G12 750 Li. They are 4-pot Brembo fixed calipers made for BMWs. These are the medium size that fit my 348mm rotors with minimal fab work. Check out in my F10 playlist early on i have a 3-part video series on when I got them and cleaned them up, how I had to make my own connecting line to replace the damaged one, and then part 3 is how I finally got them on the car
I was on the dyno last Saturday and had a big mechanical failure ON THE DYNO :-(. New video for that should be out next week. But true dyno numbers should come out soon I hope!
But i did release a dyno video in December of this turbo on the extra conservative 91 oct tune. Low numbers but that was expected. 91oct fuel and tuned during peak summer heat over 110* at times. So it was the perfect worse case scenario as I wanted for the 91 oct fuel
I have bm3 flex fuel kit. FBO. Stage 2 Dorch, PR stage 2.5 lpfp. including the fuel pump module. I have a 2014 335i x drive (ewg) auto. Everything on the car is pretty much upgraded except for the turbo. I’m still on stock turbo. I am wondering what kind of power I would make with this turbo with my current modifications and a custom tune. I like stock like spool. I was thinking close to 500 WHP. I also have the flex fuel high power spark plugs installed. I can run full E85 and I do have easy access to it but I prefer to stay around e50-e60
Question, do you need to upgrade injectors i imagine for this and what size? I noticed in your previous videos, you upgraded the low pressure fuel pump in the tank, do you have to also upgrade the high pressure one on the engine?
I am running stock injectors. and being a 2011 I have the N54 Continental HPFP which feeds much more than the later Bosch HPFP. Only fuel upgrades AT THIS TIME are the Walbro 450LPH pump you saw on my first video, and the Arc Terminator EKPS cooler. On 91 octane I know this setup is plenty enough. I'm curious as to what will happen with the higher fuel demands of the upcoming Ethanol content
@@WTFwasdat xHP is transmission tune. Nothing to do with the upgrade turbo :). I’ve had xHP stage 3 for about 2 yrs now. Loved it on the stock turbo, love it just as much with this bigger turbo 😃
91oct tuning is finished finally. I’m waiting for Grant Johnson (another RUclipsr here) to finish his Frankenturbo F55 tuning so we’ll go together. Hopefully within the next month as long as he doesn’t have any surprises come up!
Do you think you’ll end up getting a custom downpipe fabbed up? like a bigger one for the pwg. Wonder how the turbo would react to a 4 or 4.5 inch downpipe. Fbo f30 335i owner
Actually there if you are in the Shuenk/ Frankenturbo page on FB this question just popped up today. Waiting for Doug to provide feedback if this is something he has done or not. I'd be open to a 4" DP! 4.5" though I think would cause drone during normal driving... but that is an assumption of course
I recently purchased and mine seems to be locked in the close position, apply a vacuum with a hand pump and it did nothing, can pull the rod but it sucks back into closed position.
@@dereksimonds3104 that is normal. The WG is a dual force design. Default position is closed rather than open. That is an intentional feature to ensure the fastest possible spool up. I highly suggest you get on FB and join the “Frankenturbo/Shuenk N55 Test Group” group chat. Theres a ton of us there with N55+ and F55 turbos all sharing experiences and with Doug (Shuenk’s owner) always in the mix. Do you also have a tuner ready to go? This requires custom tuning
Okay, I emailed them and I had not heard back yet. I will look into that group, yes I have a custom tune with docvu tuning and we have been working to figure out what was going on but he suggested that my waste gate line was blocked. Could not find anything that pointed to that. Just what I mentioned above is what I found.
@@dereksimonds3104 i dont recall if anyone in the group has used DocVu on this particular turbo. So let me try to save you guys some of the learning curve… The Dual Force WG does NOT work like the stock one. So he will have to build a boost control logic from scratch. This WG defaults to closed position (unlike the open default position of the stock WG). Turbine housing pressure is what pushes it open. The vacuum from the solenoid is not to shut it but to “assist” it in keeping that flap closed until the desired target boost psi is achieved. Because of this, full vacuum should not be applied to the WG until after the point at which the WG flap begins to open up. If you start with 100% vacuum you will overboost like crazy (I spiked 32psi on my first pull because this info had not become widely known yet lol). So yes, tuning with this turbo’s WG will take more work. So expect a lot more trial and error. Once you join the group you’ll have access to everyone that’s posted up their tuning logs so you can compare where you’re at to others with similar setups, etc… Hope that helps!
If i had to do it again and no filming it can comfortably be done in 4hrs. But as a first time yea give yourself 2 full days so you dont rush it. Im RWD
I’ve been debating it! We are just watching how fuel pressures look as we move up on 91 octane tuning and later with E50. Just really depends on if we see a NEED for more fuel, and if we think the LPFP can handle feeding the additional injectors. I do not want to go double pumper and upgraded EKPS- thats more money than I’d want to throw at it. So to answer your question- at this point idk! Lol
Almost wrapping up 91 octane tuning! Currently cleaning up the multi-gear pulls so dyno will soon come. This N55+ has been great and you can tell this 91 fuel is holding it back. You can FEEL it wants to do a lot more lol.
I waited about 6 weeks but keep in mind I was on that first production batch, AND my turbo had to be disassembled to have the hot section (manifold and turbine housing) ceramic coated inside and outside, then reassembled before shipping to me. So definitely was longer than the normal. Check with Doug at Shuenk for a current lead time :-)
Found a fresh channel. Just bought my F10 a month ago. Keep rolling those vids bud..
Awesome dude! These cars can be insane sleepers and still comfy as heck for long highway cruising.
Excellent video!!!! Great walk through!
Thanks bro!
Congrats!!!
Thank you!
I'm trying to get N55+ too, looking forward to your dyno result
Same here! Almost done with 91 oct tuning so i HOPE to dyno in the next few weeks. Then i can begin tuning on Ethanol mixes
how was it on 91 im debating getting this for my M2, made 381whp stock turbo 91 was hoping to see 400-420 with this.. thoughts?@@turbospool
@@Gosbecol123 cant say much as I don’t look at much M2 dynos and they have the EWG N55 while I have the earlier PWG N55. I just dyno’d it last month and made 386whp but on my extremely conservative (intentional request to my tuner). I have to go re-dyno after the holiday craze though, as my HPFP died on me while on the dyno. This was with about 3.5* ign advance and 19.9psi ceiling. One on E-mix we’ll crank it up good and see how high we can push it.
Nice job !!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome 👏🏻 love it!! Ur a legend, inspirational 👊🏻
Thanks for the support!
Good work ❤
Thank you! Cheers!
I'm interested in the dyno numbers , but great job getting everything put back together and running.
I am too! Currently doing finishing touches on the custom “save tune” I asked my tuner to build for me on 91 octane. I will dyno this when it’s done. Then the fun begins with flexfuel tuning and we can really crank up the turbo
good job! that is a mission to take on, with this work on a stock tune? not that i wouldn't get a tune, but i would remove tune for a couple weeks during smog.
It will not work on stock tune unfortunately. Since the Wastegate works (in simple terms) the opposite as the stock wastegate (default position is closed, not open like stocker), the stock tune would cause it to overboost instantly. And that will come with all the trouble codes related lol
@@turbospool that’s what I thought. California reads for tune through OBD. I passed with Dinan stage 3 but idk about custom mhd map. Grrrrrr. Thanks. Appreciate the response.
@@turbospool i sent them an email the same time i left you a comment. they responded they are working on making another option to use stock btw.
@@robertpurvis6106 nice that’s great!
Did you tune the car after the install?
Yup. Still tuning it on 91 octane before moving on to ethanol tuning. Dyno is coming soon
Noticed you have the PWG version of the Turbo listed. Did you mean to link the EWG version?
Nope. I link to a PWG because that’s the turbo I installed, lol. 2011s all were PWG
@ Oh okay! Gotcha. Mines a 2012 535i RWD with stock turbo and wasn’t sure if it had the EWG or the PWG. Only mods I have are -MHD Stage 2
-VRS 7in Intercooler
-Electronic exhaust cut outs
-Burger Motorsports intake.
My turbo started dumping oil into my exhaust and the bearings went bad. Want to upgrade to the same turbo you have, but it will require a new/bigger inlet and an oil pan gasket. Do you agree?
@@jbear1990 you also have a PWG then. EWGs didn't come out until I THINK mid-year 2014 when the LCIs started to roll out. So the Shuenk turbos come with their own proprietary turbo inlet pipe. You will need to have a custom tuner ready for when complete the install. You will need a high-flow catted downpipe OR a catless downpipe as well. Oil pan gasket isn't needed for a turbo install. But generally, you should take care of any active leaks prior throwing a larger turbo. Larger turbo= higher crankcase pressure= more oil will get pushed out the existing seals.
Nice! Is this equivalent to a Pureturbos stage 1? If so, why not have gone with there brand, I believe its cheaper?
Negative. The N55+ is more in line with the PS2. I would not have done all this work for a PS1 equivalent 😂
@@turbospool awesome! Way cheaper too
@@Jet3ch absolutely! The price difference alone can be used for a ton of stuff in the car
Are you going to dyno your car soon? I would love to see what its putting out. Thanks for the video!
Yes i will! Hopefully in the coming weeks. 91oct tuning is ALMOST done. I cant wait to see what it does on 91…. Then I can begin tuning on Ethanol
Nice .. Are you working with David Shoup?
Sure am. The man the myth the legend lol
Awesome video! Makes me want to get a big turbo for mine... Was wondering, what brakes are those? Your front calipers look to be different. And also, where'd you get your wheel spacers from? Thanks!
Thanks dude! And those are off a G12 750 Li. They are 4-pot Brembo fixed calipers made for BMWs. These are the medium size that fit my 348mm rotors with minimal fab work. Check out in my F10 playlist early on i have a 3-part video series on when I got them and cleaned them up, how I had to make my own connecting line to replace the damaged one, and then part 3 is how I finally got them on the car
Hey so did you ever do a Dyno ? I wonder how much power that turbo pushing!
I was on the dyno last Saturday and had a big mechanical failure ON THE DYNO :-(. New video for that should be out next week. But true dyno numbers should come out soon I hope!
Any updates on this turbo? Power??
Will begin flexfuel tuning next month finally. I wanted all the winter air to be gone before starting it
But i did release a dyno video in December of this turbo on the extra conservative 91 oct tune. Low numbers but that was expected. 91oct fuel and tuned during peak summer heat over 110* at times. So it was the perfect worse case scenario as I wanted for the 91 oct fuel
I have bm3 flex fuel kit. FBO. Stage 2 Dorch, PR stage 2.5 lpfp. including the fuel pump module. I have a 2014 335i x drive (ewg) auto. Everything on the car is pretty much upgraded except for the turbo. I’m still on stock turbo. I am wondering what kind of power I would make with this turbo with my current modifications and a custom tune. I like stock like spool. I was thinking close to 500 WHP. I also have the flex fuel high power spark plugs installed. I can run full E85 and I do have easy access to it but I prefer to stay around e50-e60
Question, do you need to upgrade injectors i imagine for this and what size? I noticed in your previous videos, you upgraded the low pressure fuel pump in the tank, do you have to also upgrade the high pressure one on the engine?
I am running stock injectors. and being a 2011 I have the N54 Continental HPFP which feeds much more than the later Bosch HPFP. Only fuel upgrades AT THIS TIME are the Walbro 450LPH pump you saw on my first video, and the Arc Terminator EKPS cooler. On 91 octane I know this setup is plenty enough. I'm curious as to what will happen with the higher fuel demands of the upcoming Ethanol content
@@turbospool good stuff! Thanks for the reply
What tune are you running? And does bootmod or mhd platforms support this turbo setup?
I use a custom MHD tune. And no, this turbo requires custom tuning. It can be done with MHD or BM3 with a tuner you work with of course.
@@turbospool thank you and xhp can work with both setup as well?
@@WTFwasdat xHP is transmission tune. Nothing to do with the upgrade turbo :). I’ve had xHP stage 3 for about 2 yrs now. Loved it on the stock turbo, love it just as much with this bigger turbo 😃
Part 3!
haha working on the follow up!
Any dyno numbers yet?
91oct tuning is finished finally. I’m waiting for Grant Johnson (another RUclipsr here) to finish his Frankenturbo F55 tuning so we’ll go together. Hopefully within the next month as long as he doesn’t have any surprises come up!
Thank you!! I’m really looking forward to it as I am seriously thinking about buying this turbo. Thank you for making this video!
Do you think you’ll end up getting a custom downpipe fabbed up? like a bigger one for the pwg. Wonder how the turbo would react to a 4 or 4.5 inch downpipe. Fbo f30 335i owner
Actually there if you are in the Shuenk/ Frankenturbo page on FB this question just popped up today. Waiting for Doug to provide feedback if this is something he has done or not. I'd be open to a 4" DP! 4.5" though I think would cause drone during normal driving... but that is an assumption of course
@@turbospool Lmao that’s was me lol but i’m def in there
@@2CAINEF3X haha awesome!
that cold start howl is INSANE. Did you get the 4" Downpipe as well?
Yes it is!! I already had a wrapped 3.5” catless DP (it’s a PWG).
Did you have to adjust the wastegate position at all?
They ship turbos with the WG already calibrated. I did not have to adjust mine. Over a year now with no issue
I recently purchased and mine seems to be locked in the close position, apply a vacuum with a hand pump and it did nothing, can pull the rod but it sucks back into closed position.
@@dereksimonds3104 that is normal. The WG is a dual force design. Default position is closed rather than open. That is an intentional feature to ensure the fastest possible spool up. I highly suggest you get on FB and join the “Frankenturbo/Shuenk N55 Test Group” group chat. Theres a ton of us there with N55+ and F55 turbos all sharing experiences and with Doug (Shuenk’s owner) always in the mix. Do you also have a tuner ready to go? This requires custom tuning
Okay, I emailed them and I had not heard back yet. I will look into that group, yes I have a custom tune with docvu tuning and we have been working to figure out what was going on but he suggested that my waste gate line was blocked. Could not find anything that pointed to that. Just what I mentioned above is what I found.
@@dereksimonds3104 i dont recall if anyone in the group has used DocVu on this particular turbo. So let me try to save you guys some of the learning curve…
The Dual Force WG does NOT work like the stock one. So he will have to build a boost control logic from scratch.
This WG defaults to closed position (unlike the open default position of the stock WG). Turbine housing pressure is what pushes it open. The vacuum from the solenoid is not to shut it but to “assist” it in keeping that flap closed until the desired target boost psi is achieved. Because of this, full vacuum should not be applied to the WG until after the point at which the WG flap begins to open up. If you start with 100% vacuum you will overboost like crazy (I spiked 32psi on my first pull because this info had not become widely known yet lol).
So yes, tuning with this turbo’s WG will take more work. So expect a lot more trial and error. Once you join the group you’ll have access to everyone that’s posted up their tuning logs so you can compare where you’re at to others with similar setups, etc…
Hope that helps!
how did you get your hands on this kit?
Went to Shuenk’s website and ordered it. Link in the description:)
@@turbospool its not there :(
@@synatrabeatz5437 email Shuenk sales. They could have ran out of the last batch and may have the next batch in transit
How long did it take you in total? If you lock in could this be done in 2 days? Also are you rwd or xdrive?
If i had to do it again and no filming it can comfortably be done in 4hrs. But as a first time yea give yourself 2 full days so you dont rush it. Im RWD
Are you planning on running the Midnight Motorsports Fog'r 700 kit?
I’ve been debating it! We are just watching how fuel pressures look as we move up on 91 octane tuning and later with E50. Just really depends on if we see a NEED for more fuel, and if we think the LPFP can handle feeding the additional injectors. I do not want to go double pumper and upgraded EKPS- thats more money than I’d want to throw at it. So to answer your question- at this point idk! Lol
ANY UPDATE?
Almost wrapping up 91 octane tuning! Currently cleaning up the multi-gear pulls so dyno will soon come. This N55+ has been great and you can tell this 91 fuel is holding it back. You can FEEL it wants to do a lot more lol.
Yessir
Thanks!
I see those turbos are on preorder how long did you wait for yours?
I waited about 6 weeks but keep in mind I was on that first production batch, AND my turbo had to be disassembled to have the hot section (manifold and turbine housing) ceramic coated inside and outside, then reassembled before shipping to me. So definitely was longer than the normal. Check with Doug at Shuenk for a current lead time :-)
I'm dying to see dyno! Did you go yet?
Not yet. Was almost done with 91oct tuning and then i added a Fog’r 700 kit. So tuning has to be adjusted
Do you have an instagram account?
Negative. Barely any time for my personal account… definitely no time for a channel IG lolol