And yet Fiat, I mean Dodge doesn’t even offer a bed for the 4500, you have to buy that separately and by the time you do that you have more money in the Fiat, I mean Dodge , than the Ford cost.
What does that mean “we shall offer” I am looking to upgrade my 2019 350 to at 4500/5500/ F550. But currently Ford does not offer high lux in a Chassie. Still on the fence.
LOL Tailgate ... F450 pickup is well a pickup bed. yes I like that it's a traditional bed but really limited in what you can do with it. flat bed has advantages and disadvantages at times.
Randy, from 1 Paramedic RAM owner to another Paramedic RAM owner, SWEET truck! 2015 3500 SRW, here but love the 4500 with the Utility Bed look and the air ride upgrade.
We did the Ram 5500 with 4:89 gears and Kelderman air ride in the rear and couldn't be happier with the way it works. We did the Classy Chassis hauler body on ours.
I think Ram is missing a large portion of the market by not having a 4500 w/ factory bed configuration. I’d def. e in the marker for one when I upgrade from my CTD 2500 just for the turning radius advantage. I’m tired of needing 3 acres to turn around.
Less than 1% of all the F series are f450 pickups. At least for 2018, it might have broken the 1% barrier by now. The 450 pickup is purely a halo product
Glad you mentioned tire wear, I was thinking it was just my truck. I went from a 1999 single rear wheel 4x4 F-350 with a manual to a 2011 F-450. It’s a nice upgrade but I’m noticing that tires might be an issue. It has the 17” wheels. Don’t know if that contributes anything to the problem. I love the truck though. Thank you for all the great content as it helped with my decision on this truck.
@@max312a I prefer that the Ram spotter mirrors are remotely adjustable. My new F350 Lariat has to be manually adjusted every time my wife and I swap driving. Ram setup is better for me.
It depends on how he works, if you are a one station worker then it’s not much salty but if you go from station to station it’s pretty good. When I was a EMT that’s how it was but I along with most others either have another job or raise cattle and some here in Louisiana where I live have cattle and are also in fire department or Police force
First Responder in the US here..... I can tell you Randy probably hit the lotto or sold a kidney. I can't swing a Ram 4500 payment on top of everything else with my measly salary. Enjoy the rest of your lotto winnings, or last remaining kidney, Randy!
@@thetruth7839 F. Fabrication O. Ordinary R. Reparation D. Dayli Ford is for kids . Is a cheap and bad product RAM is for men. THERE IS NOTHING BETTER .
@@BTBRVReviews ok thanks. i am trying to figure out what a good upgrade for me would be. I have a ram 1500 crew cab now with a max towing capacity of 8250lbs with a gear ratio 3.21, but iwant to upgrade my travel trailer, that will be around 9500 ish and around 37.5 ft long. i think? not sure if to get a bunkhouse or a couples trailer, as my kids are 7 and 9 years old. Do you think that a ram 3500 would be over kill? or maybe a good idea if i decide later to purchase a 5th wheel.
@@mikeparkin7262 Just go 3500 if you can. I hate when the payload police show up to discussions about 2500 vs. 3500 but as someone that bought a 2019 Ram 2500 in February I do recommend just going 3500 right away. My 2500 tows our 33' travel trailer toy hauler like a dream but now that we're looking at 5th wheels we are going to be a few hundred pounds over on payload. The only downside to the 3500 is your empty ride is going to be a bit rougher with Rams since the suspension is different. My coil sprung 2500 does ride really nice empty and so I do enjoy that aspect. On Fords and GMs there isn't much of a difference because they're just changing how many leafs/overload leafs there are.
Which company out there makes a pickup bed for a chassis cab? Fontaine in Louisville used to offer one for Ford years ago. But no longer needed for them obviously.
I have to admit the Ford Super Duty is one tough truck and looks amazing. As a whole though the Ram Heavy Duty to me is the superior truck. Even though the Ford measures up in every way, even better in certain areas in exception to the interior.
I might be wrong on this but I believe the way hp is measured is different on higher class trucks. Plus these are work trucks and most companies and owners are more concerned about longevity and not winning at the stoplight dragstrip. They want to get the job done with the best r.o.i. possible. Hopefully when they go to a transmission with more gears they ditch the 68rfe and have the same hp and tq ratings in the whole lineup. Hopefully that transmission is bulletproof as well. I would look at a new ram then. My current 07.5 quad cab is getting a little small in the back for my two kids. The 68rfe is long gone and replaced with a manual because it was very emo and never enjoyed life. As I get older I don't enjoy shifting in town as much anymore. I would live a nice solid automatic behind a cummins as a factory option. The aisin is nice but still there is little you can do to tune it.
randy ream , I recently retired from 28 years on the job and happen to have a black Ram 3500 single rear wheel for my 5th wheel. One day I’ll be as cool as you! 😜 (Do you have emergency lights in your headlamps??)
I get some crazy tier wear on my F350. I think average ratio I have heard from people is will replace front tires twice before rear tires. Like that hauler body though. Looking to get a truck with that when I get closer to retirement to travel more.
Usually youd wear out the rears first if towing often. might want to get your 350 looked at. also dont get aggressive off road tires. rubber is too soft 1 tons eat them up
I actually bought the truck as a chassis cab. Then I added the air suspension when I was working out in Odessa Texas and saved up in had the bed installed later. Call total probably around 90000
For those who dont know, the ram 4500/5500 have less hp and torque than the ram 3500. The ram 3500 is available with the cummins ho which has 1,075 ft lbs of torque. 25 more than the powerstroke. But the regular cummins is in the 4500/5500 trucks with smaller numbers. The ram 4500/5500 trucks can carry and haul more though.
Also the regular cummins is available in the 3500 but you can get the ho if you get the aisin trans. The cummins hi has more hp and torque than the regular cummins.
Out of the numerous dodge/ram truck's I and my family owned over the last two decades, the only one we've had electrical issues with is when the previous owner decided he could wire in his own electronics, which caused issues.
$100,000 for the ram limited fully loaded (without out an air ride suspension because that comes rare with the tow-hauling ram trucks nowadays).... $102,450 for the ford limited fully loaded.
@@randyream6271 Do you use a gooseneck or the B&W Companion for your camper? Do you have any issues with the rear bumper of the truck getting too close to the camper when hooked up?
I'm on my 4th F450 I have gotten up to 89,000 miles on the rear tires and 75,000 on the front tires. My current 2020 has 12,000 and starting to cup wear front and rear on the stock tires. These are the Continental hybrid. This truck has the Pro backup I have not tried it as of yet but I can say if this is what has changed the way the truck steers I do not like it at all. The 2019 steering is completely different. The 2020 wanders all over I have had the alignment checked out twice at two different shops I'm going to see if I can have the Pro backup disconnected it drives that bad.
Oh why oh why didn’t you get someone with a CHEVROLET 4500 HD ???? WHY ??? Yes I know that CHEVROLET 4500 HD only comes in a chassis cab not a 8ft pickup truck bed.
Everytime I see a new Ram truck beside the competition I say nothing comes close too Ram's looks and quality ...not saying JD's truck isn't nice but Ram is soo beautiful 😁
Can't take that Ram into California unless you have a CDL. Any pickup with an aftermarket bed towing any trailer, the operator has to have a CDL. They were ticketing and turning away people recently.
@@danclapper626 I watched as the CHP would not allow people headed to a rodeo with truck with a hauler bed and a goose neck horse trailer. People were pissed.
The advantage the Ford has over the Ram is this. The Ford, you can place all kinds of eight foot long two by fours in the bed, close the tail gate and not worry about them falling out. Or you can place several four by eight foot sheets of plywood in the bed, close the tail gate and not have to worry about losing them. What's to keep them from sliding off the bed of the Ram?
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Ford: we shall offer a consumer friendly high luxury hauler
Ram: takes notice, now offers a Laramie 4500 & 5500
GM: we have a cool tailgate.
And yet Fiat, I mean Dodge doesn’t even offer a bed for the 4500, you have to buy that separately and by the time you do that you have more money in the Fiat, I mean Dodge , than the Ford cost.
What does that mean “we shall offer”
I am looking to upgrade my 2019 350 to at 4500/5500/ F550. But currently Ford does not offer high lux in a Chassie. Still on the fence.
LOL Tailgate ...
F450 pickup is well a pickup bed. yes I like that it's a traditional bed but really limited in what you can do with it. flat bed has advantages and disadvantages at times.
@@jamesward4893 you want to know Fiat stands for right fix it again Tony
I noticed that too when I was comparing the three on their websites
Nice that a viewer shared his truck. Thank you for the comparison video.
Randy, from 1 Paramedic RAM owner to another Paramedic RAM owner, SWEET truck! 2015 3500 SRW, here but love the 4500 with the Utility Bed look and the air ride upgrade.
We did the Ram 5500 with 4:89 gears and Kelderman air ride in the rear and couldn't be happier with the way it works. We did the Classy Chassis hauler body on ours.
That Ram is my DREAM truck. Finally an in-depth, high quality video of it!
I think Ram is missing a large portion of the market by not having a 4500 w/ factory bed configuration. I’d def. e in the marker for one when I upgrade from my CTD 2500 just for the turning radius advantage. I’m tired of needing 3 acres to turn around.
Less than 1% of all the F series are f450 pickups. At least for 2018, it might have broken the 1% barrier by now. The 450 pickup is purely a halo product
I agree. I'd love a Ram 4500 pickup for towing our 5th wheel. I'm not interested in a flat bed/custom bed configuration.
I have a 2021 RAM 4500 with a factory 8' bed... sure I had to pay a small fortune to get it built. but I have it!
That is an amazing truck! Totally decked out! I would bet it hauls without hesitation! Thanks JD for bringing it to us!!
Hauls like a dream.
Super nice! He dropped some money with that Kelderman, about a $10k upgrade right there. Best looking set up I"ve seen .
Glad you mentioned tire wear, I was thinking it was just my truck. I went from a 1999 single rear wheel 4x4 F-350 with a manual to a 2011 F-450. It’s a nice upgrade but I’m noticing that tires might be an issue. It has the 17” wheels. Don’t know if that contributes anything to the problem. I love the truck though. Thank you for all the great content as it helped with my decision on this truck.
Should put 19.5" rims on any truck 450/4500 and up and some 3500 would benefit also IMHO
Both great trucks. Really interested in the turning radius challenge. The turning is the main reason I bought my 2019 F450.
Nothin cuts like a ford. Coming from a Ram guy.
I wish they offered the 4500 in a mega cab configuration
Second.
Or a wide track axle on 3500 Megacab
I think it's awesome for involving us as in your followers in your videos!!
Inline 6 is the way to go.
Why?
That indigo/ frost interior is fine! Currently looking for a 1500 with it. Beautiful truck!
Since Ram came out with the 4500/5500 I always wanted one. Not in white though.
Who did the truck upfit?
Idc which one I'd have, both are incredible trucks
Wish Ram would make telescopic mirrors and replace the fixed, folding mirrors
Exactly. I really don't like them, and they haven't changed them since the mid 2000's
Dont fix what ain’t broke. Respect your opinions though.
I agree, I think it is one of the advantages that the Ford Super Duty has on the Ram.
They’ve had the same mirrors since 2002 (second gen) Almost 20 years 🤦♂️
@@max312a I prefer that the Ram spotter mirrors are remotely adjustable. My new F350 Lariat has to be manually adjusted every time my wife and I swap driving. Ram setup is better for me.
Sticking with my 450
Amen! 😎
So which one has better towing capacity for a gooseneck
??
It would be very interesting to see how the new GM 4500 would compare to these two
DAMN THAT RAM LOOKS GOOD
That ram is cool! Rear axle and brakes/bar is beefy asf!
When are the rams getting a different transmission? I've heard a ZF 8 speed maybe?
I watched v belt and son and there biggest gripes the lack of a decent exhaust brake on the ford
Holy crap what are they paying paramedics in the US!
to much
I know! Who can afford to drink Red Bull like that!
He ain't paying for that truck on Paramedic salary. They dont make squat...although they should for what they do.
It depends on how he works, if you are a one station worker then it’s not much salty but if you go from station to station it’s pretty good. When I was a EMT that’s how it was but I along with most others either have another job or raise cattle and some here in Louisiana where I live have cattle and are also in fire department or Police force
First Responder in the US here..... I can tell you Randy probably hit the lotto or sold a kidney. I can't swing a Ram 4500 payment on top of everything else with my measly salary. Enjoy the rest of your lotto winnings, or last remaining kidney, Randy!
RAM . There IS NOTHING BETTER.
That's why is the number one selling pickup in America because there's nothing better Ram🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
@@thetruth7839
F. Fabrication
O. Ordinary
R. Reparation
D. Dayli
Ford is for kids . Is a cheap and bad product
RAM is for men. THERE IS NOTHING BETTER .
Carlos Ochoa except it’s a fiat so everything is better 😑
@@blakehyslop2605 Ja ja ja ja
i like both trucks alot, although i am more partial to the ram. Any idea what gear ratio the ram has and the MPG.?
If I remember correctly I think he said 4.60
@@BTBRVReviews ok thanks. i am trying to figure out what a good upgrade for me would be. I have a ram 1500 crew cab now with a max towing capacity of 8250lbs with a gear ratio 3.21, but iwant to upgrade my travel trailer, that will be around 9500 ish and around 37.5 ft long. i think? not sure if to get a bunkhouse or a couples trailer, as my kids are 7 and 9 years old. Do you think that a ram 3500 would be over kill? or maybe a good idea if i decide later to purchase a 5th wheel.
@@mikeparkin7262 Just go 3500 if you can. I hate when the payload police show up to discussions about 2500 vs. 3500 but as someone that bought a 2019 Ram 2500 in February I do recommend just going 3500 right away. My 2500 tows our 33' travel trailer toy hauler like a dream but now that we're looking at 5th wheels we are going to be a few hundred pounds over on payload.
The only downside to the 3500 is your empty ride is going to be a bit rougher with Rams since the suspension is different. My coil sprung 2500 does ride really nice empty and so I do enjoy that aspect. On Fords and GMs there isn't much of a difference because they're just changing how many leafs/overload leafs there are.
Its a 4.44
What about unladen mpg between f450 and 4500?
Are the Ram 4500 cab and chassis d rated like the Ford F450 cab and chassis??
Yes the cab and chassis are d rated
Put the Banks Deringer tuner and Pedal monster on the cab chassis, and it will be better.
Paramedics must receive MUCH better compensation in Texas, than anywhere else.
I’m envious. But not rich enough
Just going by looks the Ford is still the winner in my book!
ford should start putting "Best selling and best LOOKING truck"
@@davidheller2339 yup dodge barely sells as many trucks as Ford does
That's a nice looking truck!
How did you manage to only get one of the duly wheels to lay rubber in those parking lot donuts?
Does the ford F450 turning radius also works the same?
Which company out there makes a pickup bed for a chassis cab? Fontaine in Louisville used to offer one for Ford years ago. But no longer needed for them obviously.
Can't beat that rumble under hood that Ram! Love the cummins!!!
But how comfortable is air ride vs leaf? Is it worth the $$$
Absolutely! Just had Kelderman installed on my 5500 and it is night and day difference. As they say. Best bang for the buck.
I have to admit the Ford Super Duty is one tough truck and looks amazing. As a whole though the Ram Heavy Duty to me is the superior truck. Even though the Ford measures up in every way, even better in certain areas in exception to the interior.
Lmao please. I’ll take the f 450 all day . Better looking truck ……
Wonder why it doesn’t have the 400 hp 1000 foot pound torque with the Aisin package and 12”AAM rear end?
I might be wrong on this but I believe the way hp is measured is different on higher class trucks. Plus these are work trucks and most companies and owners are more concerned about longevity and not winning at the stoplight dragstrip. They want to get the job done with the best r.o.i. possible. Hopefully when they go to a transmission with more gears they ditch the 68rfe and have the same hp and tq ratings in the whole lineup. Hopefully that transmission is bulletproof as well. I would look at a new ram then. My current 07.5 quad cab is getting a little small in the back for my two kids. The 68rfe is long gone and replaced with a manual because it was very emo and never enjoyed life. As I get older I don't enjoy shifting in town as much anymore. I would live a nice solid automatic behind a cummins as a factory option. The aisin is nice but still there is little you can do to tune it.
Why is the power numbers so low on the 4500 compared to a 3500. Does the F450 keep the power numbers as the F350?
4500s are derated for longevity, 450 pickups are the same as 350s
i want to know how the air ride is.
It handles and is a lot better than the Spring system without it come installed with. The bed weight in the back significantly helps
@@randyream6271 your truck is awesome! Thanks for sharing with us!
Whats your favorite part of the truck?
Guy: it’s a Ram
It was just funny...I couldn't think of anything else.
the f450 looks badass!
Gorgeous truck!! (Be safe, Randy!)
Thank you my friend, you as well.
randy ream , I recently retired from 28 years on the job and happen to have a black Ram 3500 single rear wheel for my 5th wheel. One day I’ll be as cool as you! 😜 (Do you have emergency lights in your headlamps??)
No. Those are the LED daytime running lamps in they do that when they're filmed with a camera
@@randyream6271 what type of the bed you got for the ram? Cleanest ram with the hauler bed I ever seen
I get some crazy tier wear on my F350. I think average ratio I have heard from people is will replace front tires twice before rear tires. Like that hauler body though. Looking to get a truck with that when I get closer to retirement to travel more.
Usually youd wear out the rears first if towing often. might want to get your 350 looked at. also dont get aggressive off road tires. rubber is too soft 1 tons eat them up
Put centromatics on the truck. Will take care of that problem
Look at how fast the air bags are!!! Lol!!😂😁😂 I'm going to buy one for the fast air bags, their so special! LOL!!
Umm ok
Finally JD been waiting for this video but really a 2 part video that part was a let down...where’s part 2
For the white truck what’s the price tag on something like that
I actually bought the truck as a chassis cab. Then I added the air suspension when I was working out in Odessa Texas and saved up in had the bed installed later. Call total probably around 90000
Wow now that's a beautiful truck
Is he running Centramatic wheel balancers on his truck?
No, but I am thinking about it
He never compared the stats why???
Another great, informative video. Thanks JD
Did I miss something? Who won the turning radius competition?
A beautiful truck thanks for sharing buddy
That's a beautiful truck
They need a 5500 pickup option, and Megacab cab and chassis and long box pickup. And put the wide track front axle on all dually trucks.
And it needs to have the High Output with Aisin tranny too!
Yeah. Or I’d go for a 10 speed stick with the high output
8-10 speed Allison auto works...
Can you get a 4500 with a regular bed?
Watch the video before commenting. If you had, you'd know that you have to get an aftermarket bed if you want one.
For those who dont know, the ram 4500/5500 have less hp and torque than the ram 3500. The ram 3500 is available with the cummins ho which has 1,075 ft lbs of torque. 25 more than the powerstroke. But the regular cummins is in the 4500/5500 trucks with smaller numbers. The ram 4500/5500 trucks can carry and haul more though.
Also the regular cummins is available in the 3500 but you can get the ho if you get the aisin trans. The cummins hi has more hp and torque than the regular cummins.
Damn that’s beautiful
How’s the ride quality with the Kelderman? Small bump compliance ? Empty vs loaded ?
It rode horrible without the air system on it. The air system helped out little bit but the best benefit was after the Bed was added
Really nice looking trucks
I love my ram 4500 .best truck I have owned and ordered everything I could get on it when I bought it last year.
Ram needs to sell the 4500 and 5500 from factory with a bed!
2 great trucks!
Jesus, I was a ff/paramedic with special ops pay and I couldn't even afford to look at a truck like.
Don't these Rams have mega transmission issues?
No. The Aisin is a good HD transmission.
Fewer than Ford's diesel issues
Fords having big time issues with there 10 speed transmission.
Has Randy had any issues with the electronics yet on his Ram? I hear this about Ram every so often. Thanks.
No issues at all.
Out of the numerous dodge/ram truck's I and my family owned over the last two decades, the only one we've had electrical issues with is when the previous owner decided he could wire in his own electronics, which caused issues.
What a gorgeous truck! Love it! What is the cost for this(so I can save up)?
The total upgrade cost was approximately 10 to 12000
One MILLION Dollars
$100,000 for the ram limited fully loaded (without out an air ride suspension because that comes rare with the tow-hauling ram trucks nowadays)....
$102,450 for the ford limited fully loaded.
@@randyream6271 Do you use a gooseneck or the B&W Companion for your camper? Do you have any issues with the rear bumper of the truck getting too close to the camper when hooked up?
I'm on my 4th F450 I have gotten up to 89,000 miles on the rear tires and 75,000 on the front tires. My current 2020 has 12,000 and starting to cup wear front and rear on the stock tires. These are the Continental hybrid. This truck has the Pro backup I have not tried it as of yet but I can say if this is what has changed the way the truck steers I do not like it at all. The 2019 steering is completely different. The 2020 wanders all over I have had the alignment checked out twice at two different shops I'm going to see if I can have the Pro backup disconnected it drives that bad.
Might be the tires. we got those put on our work f450 n the fucker walks like a dog now just horrible
The 2020 Ford 5500 i drove was the same way on the highway, it was all over the road when you hit bumps
Love your truck
Thank you very much
Please tell us why you continue to chose the Fords.
I want both! Or at least the money to afford both.
Beautiful truck. What was the total cost?
I much prefer the RAM!! What a truck!!
Should change the title to “Ram 4500 chassis cab with lots of aftermarket improvements vs. mostly stock F450 pickup”
They are paying paramedics a lot of money now-a-days, apparently.
Both r great looking trucks
Oh why oh why didn’t you get someone with a CHEVROLET 4500 HD ???? WHY ??? Yes I know that CHEVROLET 4500 HD only comes in a chassis cab not a 8ft pickup truck bed.
Very cool
Everytime I see a new Ram truck beside the competition I say nothing comes close too Ram's looks and quality ...not saying JD's truck isn't nice but Ram is soo beautiful 😁
They are OK.
The 2 best heavy haulers for hotshots
Ford for the win
The Ford is prettier. :)
I’ll take the F 450 all day.
I should have got a job for the government! Dam I just pissed away 40 years of my life when I could have been retired after 25 years!
Not sure why anyone would get a 4500 Ram? It’s only $1,100 to step up to the 5500
Ride quality
I do like the ram chassis cab better. I’ve towed 53’ trailers. This reminds me of a semi. I’d rather have this for a fifth wheel.
How does randy the paramedic afford over 100k on four wheels
By working my butt off.
I believe it's called Money Management!
Plus he didn't get the one on four wheels he upgraded to Six!! Lol
"Affording" and being able to make the payments are completely different terms.
Love you jd two amazing trucks
Can't take that Ram into California unless you have a CDL. Any pickup with an aftermarket bed towing any trailer, the operator has to have a CDL. They were ticketing and turning away people recently.
Even if you from out of state on vacation pulling a fifth wheel?
@@danclapper626 I watched as the CHP would not allow people headed to a rodeo with truck with a hauler bed and a goose neck horse trailer. People were pissed.
Brett Young wow that’s crazy
one more reason to just stay away from California.
Just one more reason Trump should have built the wall along the eastern border of California.
Beautiful truck.
How’s it a comparison? Just look at the gorgeous exterior and interior on the Ram. Ford needs to really step it up on exterior/interior design.
At the end of the day the Ram has FIAT on it
Would be cool to do a get together sometime and we can all show off our rigs!
Did the Ford need to be Bulletproofed before the test? I know the Dodge did not! It comes Bulletproof! Sorry!
Dislikes for me. Mirrors and no retractable steps. Don’t know who’s bed that is but the DEF fill would make me look elsewhere.
Which has more leg room in the backseat? I got teenagers.
Don’t know about turning, but the F150 can park better than the Ram.
They aren’t taking about girls trucks.
Ram spent so much on interior didn't have enough for a bed.
The advantage the Ford has over the Ram is this. The Ford, you can place all kinds of eight foot long two by fours in the bed, close the tail gate and not worry about them falling out. Or you can place several four by eight foot sheets of plywood in the bed, close the tail gate and not have to worry about losing them. What's to keep them from sliding off the bed of the Ram?